From komarockswatch at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 00:47:06 2009
From: komarockswatch at yahoo.com (odhiambo okecth)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:47:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Fw: Reality now sinking in
Message-ID: <107083.99460.qm@web31406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


It has started.

In Coast, all leaders have expressed their support for the Rt Hon Prime Minister and told him to soldier on, that Balala is all by himself and his sour grapes count for nothing. They did this in a very cool manner. And the people are with Raila on this.

In Central Province, their people lost the most during the PEV and they never came out like Team Ruto. They have also come out and told the Rt Hon Prime Minister to Soldier on. Again, the people of Central are with Raila on this.

In Ukambani, The Grand Maestro, Hon Charity Ngilu has assured Raila of their support and in her usual style, taken offense with those who have consigned the Kambas to perpetual poverty. And she is gaining ground there. The people of this area are with Raila on this.

In Rift Valley, Hon Franklin Bett has seen the light and jumped ship. In his
 usual flip-floping manner, he has seen danger in associating with Team Ruto. He has poured his support with Raila. Besides, all the Maasai leaders have always been with Raila on this.

In Nyanza, Western and North Eastern Provinces, Kenyans are solidly behind Raila on the Mau issue.

In The Rift Valley and Nairobi, Raila is on top of things. And Many Kalenjin brothers and sisters are for Mau conservation. So who does Ruto and his 4 followers speak for?

So, where does this leave the 2 Rutos, Keter, Kutung and the other guy. They are only five vocal noise makers and true to the adage, the loudest noise come from empty tins.

They are only 5 MPs and they make all the loudest noise. Bring in the censure motion on Raila, kenyans are waiting.

BTW, do these 5 people read the papers?

Oto Octavian

--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kca_main] Confidence vote against Kenya PM trivial
To: kca_main at yahoogroups.com
Cc: "Africa-Oped" <africa-oped at yahoogroups.com>, kenyaonline at yahoogroups.com, "NVK-M MAGEUZI" <NVK-Mageuzi at yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 2:16 PM







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      Wams,
Ruto does not have the Nos. There are those like Kilonzo who went to help in the noble and humanitarian moves towards assisting the evictees. Some people saw votes aimed at crippling Raila's wings. Raila has Kenyans (majority) behind him and most MPs will see sense in that. Already they are starting to see "njata" stars as Balala and Uhuru and Kalonzo can tell you. When they will be told to carry their own crosses, they will stop payukering.

 
Let them look for another reason to fix and they may be lucky then but this Mau thing will not work against Tinga. On the hand, the evictees must be treated humanly and there is no need for creating for IDPs. But conserving the Mau will be carried out and Raila will be the last one to laugh.

 
I was hoping that they introduce the motion to "destroy Raila" so that they get embarrassed but they saw that they were walking on a cliff and we bound to sink into the deep sea. 
 
Lets see how the manage to reinstall Kalonzo as Leader of Govt Business on Wednesday. This they may succeed but I doubt will clip even a kawing of Raila. 
 
Kuria


On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Margaret Gichuki <Wams2006 at gmail. com> wrote:


  





Rev,
Waaaaaaooohhhhh. ...This is a flop.We need a mathematical brain of a genius to work it out.
How many MP's does Ruto have on his side?
 



On 11/30/09, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi at gmail. com> wrote: 

  



Kibe Muigai brings another angle to this debate. Assuming that a motion of no confidence succeeds, does that entails collapse of the coalition as many people thought or would ODM be required to get person to assume the Premier position? If the latter is the correct position, then team Ruto may be encouraged to wage a coup against Tinga with the

bigger question being whether they can get the required votes (a simple majority?). Majority of the MPs would not be interested in joining the band wagon if the departure of Tinga
would imply the collapse of the Coalition and so another general election. But Tinga should sit comfortably with the knowledge that there are many people, including MPs 

who hold the same position held by Mutula Kilonzo, that the vote is trivial and porojo being waged by the Envelope Alliance (http://www.standard media.co. ke/maddworld/ ?).


Kuria

-- NAIROBI, Kenya 30 Nov - Justice and Constitutional Affairs Minister Mutula Kilonzo has described a planned vote of no confidence against the Prime Minister as ?petty politics.?


He says if successful, the motion against Raila Odinga by a section of Rift Valley MPs over his stand on Mau evictions will frustrate reforms in the country.

Addressing the media after opening a journalist training workshop, the minister said: ?Any petty dispute like arguments over (the settlement of squatters from Mau) that translates to a vote of no-confidence in the PM could disrupt the grand coalition.


?How am I going to produce a new Constitution for you? I need the PM together with his supporters.. . I need the PM together with his political skills therefore it is not a matter that is engaging me.?

He said he had not been approached by those who support or oppose the Motion saying that he was focusing on keeping the coalition united in order to deliver on constitutional and institutional reforms.


Mr Kilonzo is one of the members of the National Dialogue team that drafted the National Accord which set up a grand coalition government under the leadership of Prime Minister Raila Odinga and President Mwai Kibaki. 


Meanwhile the supremacy battle within the Orange Democratic Movement could intensify after it emerged that the party would be forced to choose another person as Prime Minister should the no-confidence vote against Mr Odinga succeed.


Constitutional lawyer Kibe Mungai told Capital News in an interview that the notion that Mr Odinga?s ouster as the PM may mean a collapse of the grand coalition government was erroneous.

He said the both the PM and President signed the National Accord on behalf of their parties.


?The confusion that has been there in Kenya is that the creation of the National Accord Act was to make Mr Odinga the PM is not true.  If a vote of no-confidence passed and ODM cannot pass anybody else then a coalition of parties will present another person to be the PM,? he said.


The battle is likely to pit deputy party leaders Musalia Mudavadi and William Ruto against each other as to who would replace Mr Odinga as the PM.

In the past Mr Mudavadi has always beaten the agriculture minister to any party title by virtue of having the PM?s ear.  During the run-up to the formation of the grand coalition government the local government minister got one of the deputy premier?s spots leaving Mr Ruto to settle for the agriculture portfolio.


Last year during the party?s elections, ODM was forced to split the deputy party leader?s slot after MPs from Rift Valley threatened to walk out if Mr Ruto was not elevated to the position.

The MPs have always argued that the Mr Ruto deserved higher ranking than Mr Mudavadi since his region delivered more seats and voters as compared to Mr Mudavadi's Western province.


Mr Mungai said that the both Mr Odinga and President Kibaki signed the National Accord on behalf of the parties and not as individuals.

The lawyer however said the no-confidence vote was ill-timed as it was likely to negatively impact the enactment of Agenda Four-related reforms.


The National Accord and Reconciliation Act 2008 which created the post of the PM stipulate that the Premier must leave office if a vote of no-confidence is supported by a simple majority in the House.
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From alkamyoyo at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 01:45:55 2009
From: alkamyoyo at yahoo.com (Allen Kamunde)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:45:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] There is no Such Thing as KKK
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Hello,

It pains me everytime i see people referring to such thing as KKK. It just Doesnt exist! 
That is just a grouping of 3 people; Uhuru, Ruto, Kalonzo. Just ask yourselves, Do you believe they speak on behalf of the said people they purport to speak for? Do they really have the blessings of the said people?

My answer is no! and the can go to hell.

Evitions have to continue, and to Raila, you can only get stronger, Kudos!


      

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From: Zahid Hussein <zahid7 at yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:06


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From chamkaa at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 08:34:05 2009
From: chamkaa at yahoo.com (David B)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 05:34:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Where is KALONZO, KIBAKI and UHURU in MAU Issue?
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Politics is about outwitting your opponent and creating a "problem" that qualifies you to be the man of the day.? Raila is doing the right thing but like a brainless tinga. He has been tricked by Kibaki and cohorts and has swallowed the bait. It is over for him. The house of Mumbi, of Koitalel and Masaku have sealed it (KKK). Mulembe, Luiyas are fast catching up for KKKL, cost is in, North Eastern in. So far Raila should know he is only with Nyanza. He is done,? not because he is doing the wrong thing but for lacking tact and spice of wisdom. Moi got power by playing smart games with Kenyatta, Jaramogi lost for being careless. Some things do not have to be done today if today will curtail your tomorrow's success. Hold horses and plan. Ramogi House have proved the poorest strategists since independence.? During PEV, Raila rushed to Sagana incognito like a thief in the night and a sheep for slaughter. He was salughterred by being given a roar deal in
 Nyeri. Did he see it? Seemingly not. He is the one who has been fighting to death for survival of the "union" (coalition) even though he got only bones after winning the election.? Koitalel house have seen the folly and have decided to work with the guy they do not trust but at least have some brains. People, do not just shout all the time, there is a time to dive under.? Has Romogi house ever known diving? NEVER. This has been their down fall. How can you be careless with a brother, your true supporter who was willing to die for you?? Yes, people will leave Mau but How? especially considering what they have gone through in land dealings since independence? By throwing them on the road for the entire world to see that you are conservationist?? If that is not a lack of wisdom, strategy and political skill, what is? Why doesn't Raila rialize that Kibaki is completely quiet? The day before Panafric fundraiser, Kiraitu and other central leaders promised
 Raila support for 2012. Really? ? 

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Solomon Ojoo <ojoo at starlit.co.ke> wrote:

From: Solomon Ojoo <ojoo at starlit.co.ke>
Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] Where is KALONZO, KIBAKI and UHURU in MAU Issue?
To: bidiiafrika at bidiiafrika.com, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 7:11 AM


 
 
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Can anyone put some sense in me about mau because may be I am ignorant.
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The cabinet resolved that the mau people should be compensated. If its true then?two question I?may ask ignorantly.

Isn't Hon. Uhuru Kenyatta the minister for finance to release the compensation funds to Hon.?Naomi shaban who is in charge of special programs. Both of them were?at ?the fundraising claiming to help the Mau people. If they knew the funds allocated by the government was not enough why couldn't they raise it at the cabinet meeting?
Where is Hon Raila?coming in about the compensation. Does he handle state treasury?
Kindly someone to answer me just as the bible says "just like one iron sharpens another so does one person sharpens the other"?
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From: maurice oduor
Date: 30/11/2009 14:24:27
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] Where is KALONZO, KIBAKI and UHURU in MAU Issue?
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These people were given a warning? 6 months ago. The cabinet passed the resolution then? others left but these ones refused and they are now looking for public sympathy. Yes, I believe the government could have done this in a humane way, but I also believe they defied the government's directive.

Uhuru, Ruto and Kalonzo should give these people some of the land they have amassed from Kenyans. They should be ashamed of themselves for raising only? Sh. 5 million for these folks' They can do better. Uhuru himself can manage? Sh 50 million nand Ruoto can manage Sh. 5 million.? Poor Kalonzo can only manage 1 Million.

Courage,
Maurice

--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Jimmi Kareithi <jimmi at gplflexibles.com> wrote:


From: Jimmi Kareithi <jimmi at gplflexibles.com>
Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] Where is KALONZO, KIBAKI and UHURU in MAU Issue?
To: "youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com" <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
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Hi
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Chistine, I ?like the way you put it, But let me ask a simple question, ?for the sake of? ?FIGHTING for a NATIONAL GOOD? is it prudent to push ?people to ?the road side leave them there in the cold ?to suffer and? die? for the sake of FIGHTING for a NATIONAL GOOD..???
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?Yes ?I agree they destroyed mau but could it be that KALONZO, UHURU , KIBAKI are against the? way the ?FIGHTING for a NATIONAL GOOD? is being exercised.
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Is Raila using your thought pattern of? FIGHTING for a NATIONAL GOOD to get to power in 2012
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If this is so then I will not vote for him?.and by the way its not? a tribal thing?..Its the human aspect take a trip there and see the kids in the cold?.
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I am sure if these people who are evicted from the Mau ?in a more human ?way, I am sure we could, ?after removing them from the MAU employ them to protect the mau, Rebuild the mau??? Use them for a good cause instead of dumping them by the roadside? for the sake of? FIGHTING for a NATIONAL GOOD
Kindly explore this line of thought??..
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jimmi
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From: Christine Baraza [mailto:christinebaraza at yahoo.com] 
Sent: 29 November 2009 20:56
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Subject: [YP_Ke] Where is KALONZO, KIBAKI and UHURU in MAU Issue?
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Kenyans should really be wide awake as the MAU issue unfolds and people like UHURU KENYATTA AND KALONZO MUSYOKA who claim to want to lead this country stand by side and wait to reap VOTES instead of FIGHTING for a NATIONAL GOOD. If the decision to RECLAIM MAU was a CABINET decision-Where is UHURU, KALONZO and KIBAKI on this issue?

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Didnt I hear in 2007 that KALONZO wants to bring to state house servant leadership? Is this how servant leaders operate? Does KALONZO really care about NATIONAL GOOD about about votes? While RAILA is busy trying to reclaim MAU, KALONZO is busy forming KKK and you will in 2012 Kenyans voting for this knucke-head KALONZO

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Didnt I hear that UHURU was the GENERATIONAL CHANGE leader? Is that the change that UHURU will be preaching in 2012 ASKING kENYANS to elect him to be president, while he cant stand for a national good because of politics?

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Did I hear that KIBAKI is a good president-only people surrounding him are bad? Why cant he as the PRESIDENT lead in reclaiming MAU? Is this why he made a mess of the 2007 general elections and forced Kenyans on him as President by stealing the votes?

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I support RAILA ODINGA and if Kenyans really want GOOD LEADERSHIP then its time they voted for RAILA ODINGA. I know there are tribalists in progressive who will blame RAILA for everthng and anything but I am not LUO but still support RAILA because he is a statesman and a LEADER not some useless VP masquarading as peoples servant or some uselsss Deputy PM masquarading a generational change leader or some useless president masquarading as the person who won 2007 general elections.

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If Kenyans AINT TRIBALISTS THEN LETS SEE IN 2012 IF THEY VOTE FOR RAILA ODINGA. If they DONT, THEN THEY ARE REAL TRIBALISTS CHEATING THAT THEY HATE TRIBALISM.

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--- On Wed, 11/25/09, paul kalepe <kalepe3 at gmail.com> wrote:


From: paul kalepe <kalepe3 at gmail.com>
Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: Raila is seriously Misreading Kenyan Politics-Baraza, 2012 is not everything!!!!!
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 8:10 AM

We are playing petty politics if we claim that Mau forest is for the people from one community its for the all of Kenya, also we should be weary of politicians they wont provide for us, about Raila he has fought some battles which if not for him and reformist in?Kenya, this freedom of speech would not be here, Kalonzo, Uhuru, Ruto and the company were in the old status quo so dont expect much from them at all, i think they are afraid of the changes in coming, but all in all Mau must be saved because if its destroyed people from RV will have a desert and hence look like somalia, also why the blame on Raila alone they whole cabinet and government should be blamed, especially Kibaki he knew it was wrong to dish out tittle deeds before elections, so why blame Raila alone now, what about those who have lands there yet they are politicans,are they saints, we are all playing doubles standards here, let us be wise.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Lordvick Otieno <lordvickp at yahoo.com> wrote:



Raila had choosen to sacrifice support for Mau at?the expence of?keeping ?ODM intact?and take the risk.?Others have chosen self interest and?are?preoccupied with KKK?2012 plot,?but never thought of donating part of their hugely grabbed lands to PEV IDPs.They never?fundraised for the those displaced or

never visited the PEV?IDPs, who are still languishing in camps but are quick to hyjack the Mau issue with 2012 in sight. They want to pose as real saviours.

They now want to hijack? the situation?and outdo the government they serve?to be viewd as having been more caring than the former.?

For Raila to have taken this very bold decision, he must have known where all?this will take him into. He?must have had a long term plan to face the crisis.

Those?who oppose Mau evictions and have forgotten other important national?issues like?the new draft? laws are only out to gain from cheap tribal emotions.
We will soon separate the charf from the Rice.

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From: ed moses <moses.edmoses.ed at gmail.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 6:33:13 PM
Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: Raila is seriously Misreading Kenyan Politics-Baraza, 2012 is not everything!!!!!

well well well, I must concur with a few on matters principle.True, Raila hasnt been all consistent especially in the most recent past (run up to elections 2007) by allowing himself to be yolked with the most unlikely of bedfellows and we all know who they are.And on that account, the likes of osman will not mind him being stoned to death?for that while the likes of Neto will say, "you know what buddy, you're already in the mud, dont try getting out of it now; just keep rolling over in it".The choice is dicey for a man like Raila but this situation for him is the goose that will lay for him the golden egg, I dare say.If it were all about 2012,?I would say this to the man: Stick to the course, you're already in it but watch out for the pitfalls.

1. You have a bump in your consistency? and that bump is your current pain in the ass. You have to shake off?that?bump and redeem that consistency;its possible. If anything else, the legacy at risk is far much bigger than the opportunity cost.

2.If you manage to go on a course to shake off that bump ( and maybe like someone said, through a clever, subtle, action oriented 'public apology'), you will be supported.Remember, we are Kenyans; we work on a LIFO (last in, first out) gear. we shall have forgotten your 'sins'.

3. If you allow your detractors to hold you onto that inconsistency, you shall lose us completely.Majority of those who were 'scared' of you is because they didnt know the 'real' you.The inconsistency of the past had you in a red and yellow goat skin.

4. We are not asking you to be mahatma gandhi or mother teresa but the real Raila Odinga. so forgiveness and staying the course yields higher benefits. Heck, even David of old screwed some lady in the heat of the moment but that didnt stop him from being in the most important of lineages.

5. The extra mile is always less crowded



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On 11/24/09, mohamed osman <yasabu_yasabu at yahoo.com> wrote: 



i am sorry mr prime minister, ur paying the price now, just because?at ur very?convenient time , you quiet knew that mr ruto and his gangs were not reformist, the history is there for all to see, to serve you short time interest, u stood for them and made them look like reformist. 

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There is more to come and mau issue is just the beginning, the best option is just apologize to the public for misleading them, 70% of ODM MPs have hidden skeleton in their wardrobe and its time the public start debating on this issues
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From: otieno sungu <sunoti at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Cc: christinebaraza at yahoo.com
Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 1:18:45 PM
Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: Raila is seriously Misreading Kenyan Politics-Baraza, 2012 is not everything!!!!!

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Christine Baraza,

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I think you sometimes argue until you lose focus of what you are about. Say Raila is saving MAU,which one is bigger for Kenya ? ODM or survival of MAU?Let me put it this way for you,much simpler,?if there is no leader in Kenya brave enought o save MAU, even put his political career on the line, isn't that the kind?of selfless?leader Kenya wants right now?You want the cowards who cannot even save even their own children and grandchildren from future abyss!!!!

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Right now, you have receeded back into 2012( I hate 2012!!!), for you, that is greater than the drying rivers, the dying cattle from drought, the livelihoods lost by perrenial femine and drought, the dying and endangered wildlife, the slow death of tourism as a result,the starvation all over,the perrenial power rationing that causes job losses and factory closures, the..........???

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Now, leadership is exactly what Raila is doing, he is the PM and seeks to solve the serius environmental issue we are facing Kibaki's inaction notwithstanding. It is amazing that you choose the side of the greedy and the selfish on the MAU issue.

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Baraza, have you ever heard of Mahatma Gandhi and such like leaders in history? They did not just look at "2012lves" of their time, they looked at posterity and the wider picture.

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--\\- On Mon, 11/23/09, Christine Baraza <christinebaraza at yahoo.com> wrote:
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From: Christine Baraza <christinebaraza at yahoo.com>
Subject: [YP_Ke] Raila is seriously Misreading Kenyan Politics
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 4:48 PM






Raila is one man who is seriously misreading Kenyan politics. He seems to have energy and courage but not intelligence. Has Raila ever asked himself why MWAI KIBAKI, KALONZO MUSYOKA, UHURU KENYATTA, JOHN MICHUKI, NOAH WEKESA-all cabinet MINISTERS who MUST be conserned with CONSERVING MAU are standing by the side and watching him destroy his POLITICAL FUTURE? If the decision to save MAU was a cabinet decision-why is there no cabinet MINISTER including the PRESIDENT in the forefront with RAILA is saving MAU?

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In 2012 no Kenyan will remember that RAILA saved MAU and vote for him. IF Raila believes that his political career is OVER and he wants to leave the POLITICAL SCENE then let him SAVE the MAU while others who should be joining him watch. RAILA is destroying ODM with the support of THOSE whom he competed against in 2007. ITS true that MAU is a national issue and must be conserved BUT While we say that then ALL MINISTERS AND THE PRESIDENT must be with RAILA in SAVING MAU. IF NOT THEN RAILA HAS NO BUSINESS SAVING MAU.

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Why Destroy your PARTY while others are LAUGHING AT YOU. Others who too have the RESPONSIBILITY JUST LIKE YOU HAVE? RAILA IS REALLY BEING STUPID in this. I SUPPORT Conserving MAU but all CONCERNED MUST PUT THEIR POLITICAL CAREERS ON LINE for a NATIONAL GOOD not just ONE PERSON. If thats the case then RAILA SHOULD IMMEDIATELY QUIT CONSERVING MAU and join the others because in 2012 these people will be laughing all over and KENYANS will still vote for them on trbal basis as usual. RAILA READ THE TEA LEAVES and quit fighting for national good that no leader is INTERESTED IN EXCEPT YOU.

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--- On Mon, 11/23/09, sagongonyi chemurwok <chemurwok at gmail.com> wrote:
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From: sagongonyi chemurwok <chemurwok at gmail.com>
Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: Bwana Ruto!
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 9:11 AM

Felix, you write like you are spoiling for war? your tone and language is not acceptable. Do you want us to use this forum to spit epitheths against each other? you are bordering on using insults against a whole community. While Mau should be conserved, let us debate soberly. Otherwise moderates like us will start retreating to our communities. While i agree that those settlers without title deeds should move, it is important for the state to identify who are the genuine ones and need? assistance. The fact that it was done in Mt. Kenya and Mt. Elgon without any incident does not mean that it was right. What we need to be? asking ourselves is, after these people in Mt. Kenya and Mt. Elgon were evicted, how are they surviving? you saw what happened to? those who were evicted in 1989 in Mt. Kenya , they have stayed by the roadside to this day. Nobody has bothered/bothers to assist them. Is that right? it is the role of a government to provide for her
 people. Just coz these guys were evicted and nobody complained at the time does not mean that it was/is right. Supposing there are genuine squatters who may happen to have nowhere to go; what should they do? they are being told to go where they came from, where could that be? We complain of insecurity and clashes yet we create breeding grounds for them. When people lack a means of earning a living, they will definitely resort to violence. Are we saying that the government has been successful because these people have been removed? did the gvt evaluate the immediate and long term consequences of their actions? do you think these people will go somewhere and stay idle? very soon you will hear occurrences of land clashes and cattle rustling in Molo and its environs. Towards 2012, you will see them back in Mau and nobody will bother with them only to be evicted again after elections. You will of course see serious land clashes in RV just before elections;
 this time they will be big and intense. This is because these people have nothing to loose and they would want to hurt someone so that they can be heard. The govt is using a very simplistic approach in solving landlessness in this country. When this thing explodes,? we should not complain that we were not forewarned. It may take 2 or 20 years; but i can assure you that we shall not escape it. 

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On 11/23/09, Felix Otiato <fotiato at gmail.com> wrote: 

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Sang Kip,

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Instead of writting us bold emails here (stupid i think) why don't go tell Ruto and your whole bandwagon of blackmailers that regardless of what threats they have, we want illegal settlements demolished. 

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Kwani how many are you guys. You are not as many as the other Kenyans who want au cleaned. People were moved from Mt. Kenya forest and there was no noise. Who the hell do you guys think you are.

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Tell everyone you can not to vote for Raila, but those guys have to move out of Mau. We care less whatever you say. Useless if I may say.


On 11/22/09, Gabriel Kimweli <gkkimweli at gmail.com> wrote: 

Guys,

The problem we have here is that most of the guys bashing Sang have
never experienced the harshness of having to sleep in the cold the
whole night, with no food, no water and with mosquitoes feasting on
your blood??- and this includes too children who are indefensible.
There is need to exercise sobriety here - the government should first
find alternatives on how to settle these people first before throwing
them away. Surely, where does the government expect these people to
go?
It's really sad.

Gab

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Jerry Manu <jerry2song at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bwana Sang,
> We like your contribution on the forum but when you go almost being a
> fanatic it destroys all the good you have built a long the way. Philosophers
> say History is repetition of man's folly hence there is no master of
> History, you can not Insinuate that you are the master of politics and
> demography in RVP we also have ideas of RVP, Remember when our current
> President was in KANU he dismissed the opposition but where is he now?
> Former President with project did he manage?
> As regards Mau its not the precedent other people in the past have been
> victims and in any case we have to start from somewhere and that somewhere
> has turned out to be Mau if in your opinion you think mau is the first one.
> To politics i think Raila is a bright Kenyan he knows he needs people to
> enjoy ruling Kenya what will be the use of being a President to a hungry
> nation where people are dying of hunger, no water, no animals because all
> other people will be dead save for you and your people in mau.
> The kind of talks which come from RVP is not healthy when Isaac talk of ODM
> having won no elections you just fail to understand the type of people you
> are dealing with. "When you live in glass how you don't throw stones" Isaac
> is in ODM house yet he is throwing stones if the house falls it falls on
> who.
>??Jerry
> ________________________________
> From: sang kip <kipjsang at yahoo.com>
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sat, November 21, 2009 8:44:41 PM
> Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: Bwana Ruto!
>
> BREIGNER:
> Yes, mimi ni bure sana , as you say. I don't how much you know about RVP
> politics and demography. May be you woke up this morning on the wrong side
> of the bed and felt like calling me bure sana of which I say, Thank You boy!
> I have never campaigned for Ruto. Why don't we wait and see how many votes
> Raila will get from the Kisii, Kikuyu, Luhya and Maasai you say occupy most
> of RV and then we will know who is bure sana between me and you.
> Raila knows how critical Kalenjin vote is in RV and that is why he went to
> Pokot to be made an elder led by his financier Kosgey and his self-
> proclaimed RV governor Sirma. Let's wait and see how much votes than will
> garner. Hold your wild horses sir, 2012 is around the corner.
> No one hates Raila yet in RV but we question his encouragement of lack of
> due process in Mau and not Aberdare which is equally destroyed.
> I pray that you and I will be alive in 2012 to witness the truth. Contact me
> that time.
> ________________________________
> From: Breigner <peter.osotsi at gmail.com>
> To: youngprofessionals_ke <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, November 21, 2009 5:59:27 AM
> Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: Bwana Ruto!
>
>
> Kipsang;
>
> You said Moi stole squatters land, and is now accepted by the
> squatters and evictees? Shame on you. Why are you blaming the PM now,
> where does he come in when he evicts the illegal occupants who've been
> harvesting the Mau? Ask Moi, Biwott, Kosgey and other former Kanu
> hawks to return the land they stole from fellow Kalenjins. Its not the
> Pm thats making you suffer, its your own people. In fact the evictees
> should pay land rent for all the economic activities they've been
> doing in the Mau at market rates.
>
> Two, all those who were shedding crocodile tears have stolen land from
> the people they were ostensibly crying for. If you say Kalenjins share
> all things and are tight, why can't people like Biwott who own
> millions of acres in RV, why cant he share his land with the evictees?
> Biwott burried his mom in a forest, and made the forest his land, why
> don't you ask him to share the forest he grabbed from Kenya ? You are
> turning out to be a very cheap propagandist.
>
> So 2012 is around the corner and you are scouring votes for Ruto. Are
> Kalenjins the only people in RV? Maasai's at south, Kisii's in
> Southwest, Luhya's in North Rift, Kikuyu's in Central and Northern
> rift, in fact the Kalenjins occupy only a very small population of RV
> and that's why Moi couldn't even prop Kenyatta high enough with his
> Kalenjin votes. How many votes did Ruto garner in ODM nominations?
> Wewe ni bure sana , bure kabisa. Ruto can fight as much as he wants,
> everywhere he wants, anyhow and with anybody. He will never make it in
> politics as long as he thinks small and inside the box. He should
> learn to be a giraffe, let him look for someone to elongate his neck
> and feet so that he can see far and wide. Otherwise he's practically
> finished with his crocodile tears.
>
> My two cents
>
> Kenfish
>
> On Nov 21, 7:22 am, maurice oduor <mauricejod... at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> Sang Kip,
>>
>> Please write me privately. There is something I would like to discuss with
>> you without an audience. I admire your devotion to the ideals you hold.
>>
>> I believe we have a lot of political foci in common.
>>
>> Courage,
>> Maurice
>>
>> --- On Wed, 11/18/09, sang kip <kipjs... at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: sang kip <kipjs... at yahoo.com>
>> > Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: Bwana Ruto!
>> > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>> > Received: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 4:43 AM
>> > MUTESHI:
>> > I was born and raised in Mau.My father was
>> > born and raised in the same place and so were my grand
>> > father and great grand father.Before there was Molo, Turi,
>> > Elburgon, Mau Summit and tea estates of Kericho, my clan
>> > lived in Mau.White men grabbed our land for themselves.So
>> > did Kenyatta and Moi and now ware being rendered landless
>> > squatters.
>> > Your article on Mau- which all of us would
>> > like to preserve- sheds ignorance and perpetrates
>> > arrogance.Your??fashion of things originate from
>> > politicians and ignorant sources.
>> > Ruto, the man you love to smear doesn't
>> > have even an inch of land in Mau.You can't believe this
>> > fact because it is not politically
>> > correct.
>> > Why evict Ogiek and abandon them by the
>> > roadside after stealing their land over a century?! Why
>> > compensate Kikuyus evicted from the Aberdares and not Ogiek
>> > evicted from Mau?
>> > Ruto is a Kalenjin leader who happens to
>> > understand Mau issues better than Mahalang'ang'a
>> > Wekesa and Raila.We never invited him to Mau but all the
>> > same he has made our plight known. He may be vilified by
>> > people of your ilk but he has won the hearts of many in
>> > Kalenjin land. He told us to reject Moi's
>> > choice in 2007 and we did. He has called us to unity
>> > and we have responded overwhelmingly- we are united now than
>> > any time in our long history!. Moi and Biwott failed to
>> > unite us but Ruto has. We love one another now more than
>> > before- even Moi and Biwott are accepted now!
>> > Aluta continua!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Muteshi this is a defining moment in our
>> > history and it does not matter what you say, think and
>> > do to us, we shall overcome you!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> > From: robert muteshi
>> > <rmute... at gmail.com>
>> > To:
>> > youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>> > Sent: Tue, November
>> > 17, 2009 11:37:37 PM
>> > Subject: [YP_Ke] Re:
>> > Bwana Ruto!
>>
>> > Sang Kip, did you bother to find out how nuch land Ruto
>> > owns? And Kenyatta? And all the others who were at the
>> > roadside crying crocodile tears about the evictees? Why cant
>> > they donate part of the huge chunks of land they own to
>> > these poor souls???Raila is not the problem here. He is
>> > just trying to secure the future of forty million Kenyans.
>> > Those politicizing the evictions are the same ones who
>> > grabbed large tracts of forest land and are hiding behind
>> > the poor evictees in order to paint Raila as being
>> > insensitive.
>>
>> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:24 AM,
>> > RAMAH SALIM <kipke... at yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > Josh,
>> > i agree with you this man called Ruto is of questionable
>> > character,today he will say this and tomorrow change
>> > positions.Lets us watch him.He is not the kind of man who
>> > can be the CEO of this country.He fits to be a village elder
>> > and not a president.He should remember that Kenyans are not
>> > thick! The Mau issue is being blown out of proportion it was
>> > agreed the pple with genuine title who were conned by the
>> > same leaders will be compensated,but this guys from Mau
>> > South west Mau were encrochers and need no compensation.If
>> > Ruto and team were genuinely sympathetic they would have
>> > donated the big chunk of land which they own to help the
>> > poor.What they did was to shed "crocodile tears"
>> > over the weekend.My point is "LET MAU BE
>> > RECLAIMED"and politics be kept off for the good of our
>> > beloved Kenya and its pple.
>> > My 2cts.
>>
>> > Ramah S.
>>
>> > From: Josh
>> > <tot... at gmail.com>
>> > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com;
>> > bidii-afrika at googlegroups.com
>> > Sent: Mon,
>> > November 16, 2009 7:41:12 PM
>> > Subject:
>> > [YP_Ke] Bwana Ruto!
>>
>> > Afterserious thought of what was said in Mau by some
>> > politicians from the RV region...one gets to understand that
>> > Bwana Samoei has more that meets the eye against Raila..
>>
>> > Isaac Ruto talked carelessly bout Raila not having won the
>> > presidential elections...then why were people killed?
>>
>> > Is this Samoei the type of guy who needs to lead this
>> > country? There are a few issues that hyave not been sorted
>> > out in the MAU issue but we all agree that this pple must
>> > go....he has access to the powers that be...why shout kwa
>> > barabara against the Goverment he serves?
>> > I thought as a senior leader in this country he should sort
>> > this issues in the boardroom....not shout with the
>> > Isaac's and Kuttuny's...
>>
>> > Mr. William....something is going wrong in your political
>> > career....
>>
>> > --
>> > Josh--
>> > P.O Box 33506-00600 ,
>> > Nairobi .
>> > Mobile :0725-844589
>>
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Simon

The presentation you are circulating is part of the lies and propaganda peddled by the a section of Christians who are mainly radical evangelists against the Kadhis courts. Just to remind you the so-called communique which is being pointed at is alleged to have been ame in 1989 wheras the Kadhis courts were in existence even before there was a single person in Kenya who adhere to the Christian faith.

Secondly, yr presentation is nothing new. Exactly the same information was peddled and circulated during the last referendum to hoodwink Kenyans about the courts. This was accompanied by leaflets distributed in churches showing that  violence will break out if the Kadhi courts are incorporated in the constitution. 
For generations, the courts were in the Kenyan law books and we never saw any of the so-called Abuja declarations being incorporated nor violence btn Muslims and Christians as a result of the courts.

It is high time  that a culture of tolerance was exhibited as contrary to these, we should not listen to such characters who happen to create discord among the different Kenyan communities who have lived in peace and harmony for generations.



Abu Ayman


________________________________
From: jekambi <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 3:25:17 PM
Subject: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA

   
 
Dear Brethren,
Kindly read the attached PowerPoint presentation and
forward it to others. It will go a long way and possibly help to save our
country; remember that ?a stitch in time saves nine?.
 
God bless you,
 
Simon     
 
 


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TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

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From othinyi at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 11:17:12 2009
From: othinyi at yahoo.com (OSCAR)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:17:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Help!! Where are the I.T gurus?
Message-ID: <327308.11691.qm@web50606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi there, I have confidence that in this forum I'll get the help I want.

I bought a laptop whose Windows Vista operating System was installed in Swedish.... All programs n' functions are in Swedish. How do I convert the same to English? BIOS funny enough is in English

2. Its a HP and there seems to be a problem with the fan. I can't hear it work n' the laptop keeps going off, my guess is from over-heating.... Any advice? Do I buy a new fan? From where? Where do I get it fixed? Are there any HP dealers out there? Where are they?

3. A good leather casing...at an affordable price.... wapi yeye anapatikana?

4. Now, Safcom has a modem, Zain has a modem, Sijui who else has a modem..... Its my guess that there's a universal modem out there. One which all you need to do is replace the required sim card for you to access internet (Just like a cellphone). Am I wrong? If not where can I get such n' @ how much?
And while we are at it, which has the best offer?

5. As a new laptop owner, I'd appreciate any advice.


Yours Trully,
Mr. Excited!



      

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TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
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From akenzuki at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Dec  1 00:37:58 2009
From: akenzuki at yahoo.co.uk (kennedy nzuki)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 05:37:58 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] House to Let - Buruburu
Message-ID: <158679.19196.qm@web26305.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Dear all,

I have a one bedroom extension in asking for Ksh 12,000 inclusive of water and electricity. No agents.


Call 0721212584, 0721141587


Kennedy


      

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VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
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From winniemwatati at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 03:30:39 2009
From: winniemwatati at yahoo.com (winnie mwatati)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 00:30:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] House to let
Message-ID: <159322.12480.qm@web52507.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi YP.? I have?a one bedrommed house in buruburu phase 1 going for Kshs.11,000/=. Please call 0722320572 no agents please.


      

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GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
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From kipkanists at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 03:38:48 2009
From: kipkanists at gmail.com (..::Free Excel Tips Nairobi::..)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:38:48 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Using the EOMONTH Function
Message-ID: <d82bab200912010038l3ed295d4xcc69cdd7ff481fdb@mail.gmail.com>

*Summary: *If you need to determine the date of the last day in a month,
it's hard to beat the flexibility of the EOMONTH function. This tip explains
how to use this function in your formulas. (This tip works with Microsoft
Excel 97, Excel 2000, Excel 2002, Excel 2003, and Excel 2007.)


The EOMONTH function is used to return the serial number value for the last
day of any particular month, past, present, or future. The syntax for the
function is as follows:

=EOMONTH(base, offset)

The *base* value is a date from which the function should do its
calculations, and the *offset* is a number that indicates how many months
from the *base* date should be used. For instance, an *offset* of 0 would
indicate that EOMONTH should return the last day of the month represented in
*base*, whereas an *offset* of 4 would be four months after *base*, and ?2
would be two months before.

As an example, the following are typical uses of EOMONTH. The first line can
be used to return the last day of the current month, and the second line
returns the last day of the month six months later than the date in A1:

=EOMONTH(NOW(),0)
=EOMONTH(A1,6)

Remember that EOMONTH returns a serial number. Excel does not automatically
format the serial number as a date. In other words, you will need to
explicitly format the cell as a date.

In versions of Excel prior to Excel 2007, the EOMONTH function is a part of
the Analysis Toolpak. If you get an error when you try to use the function,
you can make sure the toolpak is loaded in this manner:

   1. Choose Add-Ins from the Tools menu. Excel displays the Add-Ins dialog
   box.
   2. Make sure the Analysis Toolpak check box is selected.
   3. Click on OK.


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VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

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From cmuthama_2000 at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Dec  1 04:06:27 2009
From: cmuthama_2000 at yahoo.co.uk (Charles Muthama)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:06:27 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Buying stuff overseas
In-Reply-To: <e47ae9f50912010016iffb70ebp8d5ab64c5a428b3c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9cc2cef90911301124s19f79b9cw9734f5907570ebd3@mail.gmail.com>
	<991123400911302322n369c9822l5722ad06c5a7f39e@mail.gmail.com>
	<e47ae9f50912010016iffb70ebp8d5ab64c5a428b3c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <65376.89896.qm@web26004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Be ware of the kenyan way of handling  things at the Airport. You somebody to meet you at the Airport coz you will be suffering from the cultural shock. There are so many agents at the Airport and tiz hard to tell who is who. I was a victim one time when I came with a desktop from Germany, trying to benefit from the duty free order for computers. I finally paid alot of money.




________________________________
From: josephine Ndambuki <josekamanthe at gmail.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, 1 December, 2009 11:16:25
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Buying stuff overseas

what about excess luggage cost? in the case of  i did that one time and the excess lagguage cost me about 20K. check on that cause it can be so costly! but if you go around it it will be best cause its fast.

Regards
Josephine


On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com> wrote:


>
>
>On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Alex Wanjohi <wanjohialex at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>Am seeking information on the following. Anyone in the know, kindly help.
>>
>>Scenario: Am in China, and I have seen these nice bags that am sure would sell very nicely back in Kenya. However, for them to make financial sense, I have to buy many - meaning they won't be termed as hand luggage anymore.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>So, how do I go about bringing these bags to Kenya, considering that I have no prior experience, all I have is me, a return ticket and roughly 30-50 bags.
>>Do i get a clearing and forwarding company, and if so, any pointers? and do they deal with such small loads? what about customs.. etc..
>>
>>
>
>
>I believe you just carry them, declare them at Customs when you arrive and they tell you how much duty to pay. Of course you have purchase receipts so duty will be calculated based on that. 
>-- 
>Best regards,
>Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
>Nairobi,KE
>+254733744121/+254722743223
>_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 
>"If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!."
>>
>
>               -- Lucky Dube
>
>
>
>3 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
>> 
>>VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
>>DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
>>TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
>>GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
>>TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>> 
>>Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
>>Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
>>Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
>>Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
>>Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
>>Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
>>Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
>> 
>>Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
>>254 721 663 208. 
>> 
>>Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
>>Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>


-- 
Best Regards
Josephine Kamanthe
Tel: +254 723 736 086

3 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
 
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
 
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
 
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
 
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/



      

3 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
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From giwagig at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 04:21:30 2009
From: giwagig at gmail.com (gibson wahome)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 12:21:30 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Buying stuff overseas
In-Reply-To: <9cc2cef90911301124s19f79b9cw9734f5907570ebd3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9cc2cef90911301124s19f79b9cw9734f5907570ebd3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <130327ca0912010121u374525abp21eb07efa0782819@mail.gmail.com>

I hav a contact person in china who is in shipping industry and she
can assist you look at available options,contact me offlist if
interested.

On 11/30/09, Alex Wanjohi <wanjohialex at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Am seeking information on the following. Anyone in the know, kindly help.
>
> *Scenario:* Am in China, and I have seen these nice bags that am sure would
> sell very nicely back in Kenya. However, for them to make financial sense, I
> have to buy many - meaning they won't be termed as hand luggage anymore.
> So, how do I go about bringing these bags to Kenya, considering that I have
> no prior experience, all I have is me, a return ticket and roughly 30-50
> bags.
> Do i get a clearing and forwarding company, and if so, any pointers? and do
> they deal with such small loads? what about customs.. etc..
>
> Thanks
>
> -Alex
>
> 3 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
> Palmhouse
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>

-- 
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VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
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From amenya.gibson at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 04:30:56 2009
From: amenya.gibson at gmail.com (amenya gibson)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 12:30:56 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] UN-Habitat Hold a Youth Summit meeting to relaunch
	Messenger of truth Programme at UN Office Nairobi on 30th
	November, 2009
Message-ID: <54e76b740912010130l34783562r73f7107d2ac4df4d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi YPs
It was a great moment yesterday when UN-Habitat Executive director
Tibaijuka was feted for winning a global award
Her speech with Tanzanian accent was so much captivating

At same time when UN-habitat were celebrating their great achievement
underway there was an event that was bringing together youth to
discuss about reviving Messenger of Truth program.

I happened to meet Kenyan hottest musicians like Jua Kali ,Kalamashaka
group,Sarakasi trust ,Uko fulani,other wonderful artsist.
The theme of the event was to identify ways that youth can use to gain
an opportunity to not only show their talents but also means to earn a
decent living .

The discussion oh how youth talents artsist can work with state and
other establishments were discussed where there was need for upcoming
musician to learn from old musicians and also build up networks to
enable them spread and explore their skills .

Un-Habitat with MOT-Messenger of Truth where the Gidi Gidi is there
Kenyan Ambassador will be launching a funding program for artist

This is a wake up call for our young people to network and get to great stage .
When more details comes in I will share out

-- 
Thanks
Gibson Amenya
Enigma Consultants Kenya Limited
Email: gibson.amenya at enigma.or.ke
Email:info at enigma.or.ke
For Audit,Taxation and Training Services

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GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
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From magarikenya at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 04:39:58 2009
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 12:39:58 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] No more computer frustations - Free Virtual
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VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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From omokua at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 04:58:50 2009
From: omokua at gmail.com (Ombogo Mokua)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 12:58:50 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] I Need a car
Message-ID: <58a892b70912010158m21c00b26j2ca805345bd7bd5@mail.gmail.com>

I need a car for use over the Festive season. Preferably a low consumption
model and must be available between 12th Dec to 3rd January,Kindly send me
your quotations to omokua at gmail.com

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2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From amenya.gibson at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 05:06:14 2009
From: amenya.gibson at gmail.com (amenya gibson)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:06:14 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Global financial crisis hits Dubai and What Kenya
	Business people can learn
Message-ID: <54e76b740912010206o21394e2fnaf1b3ec2772f256@mail.gmail.com>

Now as we watch our leaders talk about Mau this Mau that
As Yps we need to think ahead and position ourselves to hear what is
happening in Dubai.

There is great shift in Dubai as financial crisis sets in ,most
building in Dubai are defaulting sending shock waves in global markets
This is likely to hit some of local banks that could have lent out to
Dubai Investors
Here is my assumption
We have young businesspeople from Kenya who have been expanding their
business in Middle east and we all know that when demand goes down
business also suffer.

This is a great challenge to you as young people who are hardworking
to discuss with local banks to reschedule your debts obligations so
that credit information bureau don't blacklist you

-- 
Thanks
Gibson Amenya
Enigma Consultants Kenya Limited
Email: gibson.amenya at enigma.or.ke
Email:info at enigma.or.ke
For Audit,Taxation and Training Services

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2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/


From agilbert at longhornpublishers.com  Tue Dec  1 07:19:47 2009
From: agilbert at longhornpublishers.com (Gilbert ag. gilbert)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:19:47 +0300 (EAT)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] 30 YPs Have Now Confirmed Attending YP End Year
	Forum. 2 Days to Go!!
In-Reply-To: <82dec6650912010230se8a1752ue3c5dcbe5440e9a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <18284663.2551259669987370.JavaMail.root@mail>

I will attend as well. 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Moderator YP_Ke" <youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com> 
To: "youngprofessionals_ke" <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 1:30:26 PM GMT +03:00 Kuwait / Riyadh 
Subject: [YP_Ke] 30 YPs Have Now Confirmed Attending YP End Year Forum. 2 Days to Go!! 



Hi YPs, 



On This Thursday, 3rd of December, we shall have our last meeting this year. It will be the time again to meet, connect & network with fellow young professionals. 



Come and interact with other professionals as we listen to a talk on the Draft Constitution by Hon. Martha Karua. Please also do come with some tough question to ask her. 



We shall also be rewarding some exemplary YPs who have contributed immensely on this forum & on building LYP. 



Meeting details on the footer of this mail. 



Confirmed attendants so far 



1. Bernard Ngondo 

2. Boniface Mbuki 

3. Caleb Basweti 

4. Catherine Wekesa 

5. Christopher Kariaku 

6. Dan Nyutu 

7. Edwin Cherop 

8. Francis Mwangi 

9. Francis Njuguna 

10. Franklyne Terewa 

11. Gideon Maingi 

12. James Adede 

13. Hon. James Kinyua 

14. Jerry Manu 

15. John Kennedy 

16. Josiah Onzembe 

17. Josiah Wachira 

18. Judy Kaiguire 

19. Kelvin Jayanoris 

20. Martin Thairu 

21. Matt Ogutu 

22. Murithi Magiri 

23. Pauline Nyandiko 

24. Robert Mwangi 

25. Robinson Manguro 

26. Sarah Chepseba 

27. Shadrack N. Kirunga 

28. Truphena Otinyo 

29. Wahome Muriuki 

30. Winney Nabwire 



Attached also do find LYP Bronchure & Profile 

-- 
Regards 
YP_Ke Group Moderator 



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2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT 

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics. 

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/ 

-- 
2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From ern451 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 06:59:01 2009
From: ern451 at yahoo.com (Ann Wambui)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 03:59:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] 25 YPs Have Now Confirmed Attending YP End Year
	Forum. 2 Days to Go!!
In-Reply-To: <362200.13794.qm@web25907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <683366.12688.qm@web56606.mail.re3.yahoo.com>



--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Murithi Magiri <mmagiri at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: Murithi Magiri <mmagiri at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] 25 YPs Have Now Confirmed Attending YP End Year Forum. 2  Days  to Go!!
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 11:48 AM

Book me in : Murithi Magiri
?


?








"All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression. " Thomas Jefferson 






--- On Tue, 1/12/09, Moderator YP_Ke <youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Moderator YP_Ke <youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com>
Subject: [YP_Ke] 25 YPs Have Now Confirmed Attending YP End Year Forum. 2 Days to Go!!
To: "youngprofessionals_ke" <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 8:08



Hi YPs,
?
On This Thursday, 3rd of December, we shall have our last meeting this year. It will be the time again to meet, connect & network with fellow young professionals.
?
Come and interact with other professionals as we listen to a talk on the Draft Constitution by Hon. Martha Karua. Please also do come with some tough question to ask her. 
?
We shall also be rewarding some exemplary YPs who have contributed immensely on this forum & on building LYP.
?
Meeting details on the footer of this mail.
?
Confirmed attendants so far?
?
1.??????? Bernard Ngondo
2.??????? Boniface Mbuki
3.??????? Catherine Wekesa
4.??????? Christopher Kariaku
5.??????? Dan Nyutu
6.??????? Edwin Cherop
7.??????? Francis Mwangi
8.??????? Francis Njuguna
9.??????? Franklyne Terewa
10.??? Gideon Maingi
11.??? James Adede
12.??? Hon. James Kinyua
13.??? Jerry Manu
14.??? John Kennedy
15.??? Josiah Onzembe
16.??? Josiah Wachira
17.??? Judy Kaiguire
18.??? Kelvin Jayanoris
19.??? Martin Thairu 
20.??? Matt Ogutu
21.??? Pauline Nyandiko
22.??? Robert Mwangi
23.??? Robinson Manguro
24.??? Truphena Otinyo
25.??? Wahome Muriuki
26.??? Winney Nabwire? 
27.? Anne Muchina
?
Attached also do find LYP Bronchure & Profile-- 
Regards
YP_Ke Group Moderator


3 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
?
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
 Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/





      



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2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

?

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 

DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 

TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 

GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 

TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

?

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 

Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 

Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 

Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 

Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 

Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 

Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

?

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 

254 721 663 208. 

?

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 

Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/




      

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2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From waitherero2000 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 05:41:47 2009
From: waitherero2000 at yahoo.com (Alice Chege)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 02:41:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] CHURCH - Some concerns and issues
Message-ID: <250681.6704.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I thought I should share with you just some concerns that the church is raising...... and some of the recommendations it is making



      

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2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From komarockswatch at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 06:35:22 2009
From: komarockswatch at yahoo.com (odhiambo okecth)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 03:35:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Fw: 18th Dec; Mzee Orinda Ndege
Message-ID: <341640.76867.qm@web31406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Friends,

We will be visiting Mzee Orinda Ndege on 18th Dec 2009, and all those people of goodwill are invited to share with us in our Christmas Gifts to Mzee.

I must appreciate the initial team that came together in support of Mzee Orinda as I salute Alex Tallam, John Osoro and Fred Muhanji. Alex has indicated that he will be in Kenya by that time and we will visit together.

John and Fred are willing to help in the best way possible.

After the visit, we will make it known how you can help Mzee Orinda with his life. He suffered the most during the PEV and we need to be there for him.

It is our call and it is our destiny.

Over to all those people of goodwill across the world.

Odhiambo T Oketch,
Tel; 0724 365 557, 0735 529 126



      


      

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2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From kenne2ke at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 07:50:11 2009
From: kenne2ke at yahoo.com (kennedy waweru)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:50:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Godliness a means of financial wealth?
Message-ID: <48689.21018.qm@web56701.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

You know, very few people would tell you that they are content with
what they have. Very few people, who are not lazy, have no desire for
wealth. Very few people, hardworking, have the right reasons for asking
for wealth. This may be a contentious issue but if you look at it in
the eyes of a few Bible heroes, or better yet in the eyes of Jesus,
then it would turn out to be a straightforward issues. 

you find that much of the rot in the Church today is because our
desires have been exploited by intelligent and clever people who have
no problem reading the Bible and then using Bible verses to mislead us
and exploit us. Knowing that we desire wealth, good health and peace as
humans, these false prophets have gone into the world and gathered
around them many whose itching ears have no room for sound doctrine.
Like Paul writes to Timothy these are the days that we have heaped upon
ourselves preachers with all the "right" words and not sound doctrine.
The right words in that with regard to fleshly desires they are
appealing, but with regard to issues of the soul, the heavier issues of
the law, they are wanting. I have seen that we no longer want to be
told of hell, its like it ceased to exist some years ago out of the
will of man, or simply because it is not an appealing message. At one
time Paul asked "have I become a pleaser of men?". We have forgotten or
chosen to ignore the fact that God is loving and long suffering yes but
also when the time of judgment comes He will execute it in
righteousness and truth in accordance to His Holy Word, just like in
the times of Noah and Lot. 

We must speak of the looming judgment like Jonah and bring the people
to repentance out of love, for if we don't and we continue to say what
the ears long for then their blood is equally on our hands. 

It is refreshing in this dark world to see those who know their God
and who know that God wants them to be lights and the salt of the earth
going about everyday letting their lights shine. But what is it about
wealth that the Bible talks about? What is it about wealth that
everyone wants to preach about, including soscerers and witches? What
is it about it that makes many a christian so gullible to fall to
fables? Pick two characters, Solomon (wealthiest) and Joseph (right
honorable). 

And Solomon was asked to name that which he wanted God to give him. His response was, 
Therefore give to Your servant an understanding heart to judge Your
people, that I may discern between good and evil. For who is able to
judge this great people of Yours?" (I Kings 3:9) 

This speech pleased the Lord, it has no ounce of selfishness and
the motive was honorable. He was asking, not out of selfish desires,
but for the good of many that the Lord would help him to fill his
father's big shoes. And God gave more than that. You know it reminds me
of Matthew 6:33 

For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father
knows that you need them. 33But seek first his kingdom and his
righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 

Joseph was also one character who falls under such a category. I
have to say that everytime I think of Joseph it reminds me of Romans
8:28, it depicts the perfect example of the fact that all things work
together for the good of those who love Him and are called according to
His purpose. Well, you know what traspired and eventually Joseph became
the PM of Egypt. Shortly after the death of his father, Joseph's
brothers thought that he would seek revenge but Joseph says. 

But Joseph said to them, "Don't be afraid. Am I in the place of
God? 20 You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to
accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives. 

You see, Joseph did not perceive what God had achieved in him and
through him as meant for him alone, but he knew that all that God did
was for the good of many, the saving of the lives of many. 

So, the message that the Lord has put in my heart today is that
even as you seek and knock, it pleases the Lord to have a child who
seeks after the good of many. Let's move from the notion of me, me, me.
Let's seek for the heart of God and not become a sink to the blessings
of God. It is good and pleasant, a sweet aroma to the Lord when one
lays down his all for the good of many, for Jesus says that there is no
greater love than this. 
So, even as you pray for blessings in this and that, please
remember to allow the Lord to have His way in you and all that is
yours. David had stores and stores of materials for the house of the
Lord, yes, his wealth was stored up for the Lord. Let's learn this
vital lesson that the LOVE of money is the root of all evils. 

The reason for this is that today we have false prophets gone into
the world, just like we are forewarned in the scriptures, who are out
to mislead and deceive to an extent, if possible, even the elect. We
are in danger of harboring desires that are not pleasing before the
eyes of the Lord. We are in danger of having people in the Church
claiming this and that while the state of their soul is in essence
dead. We are in danger of being like Babylon, full of wealth and trade
while in essence our destiny is tragically not heaven. We are in danger
of being like the churches of Sardis and Laodicea, churches with
reputation of being alive while they were actually dead, a feeling of
having much wealth but in essence were wretched, pitiful, poor, blind
and naked. 

Jesus asks 
What's the point of being rich and losing your soul 

Paul writes 
If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound
instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, 4he is
conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in
controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife,
malicious talk, evil suspicions 5and constant friction between men of
corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that
godliness is a means to financial gain. But godliness with contentment
is great gain. 7For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take
nothing out of it. 8But if we have food and clothing, we will be
content with that. 9People who want to get rich fall into temptation
and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men
into ruin and destruction. 10For the love of money is a root of all
kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the
faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. 1 Timothy 6:1-10 

So, the message of the cross is not about reclaiming the wealth
that we lost, but about you and I being sinners thus separated from God
and God paying the price for those who accept. It's about being born
again in the spirit and living a life of godliness as sons and
daughters of God, for godliness is not a means for financial gain. 

So, brothers and sisters in Christ, let us strive to seek first the
kingdom of God and all His righteousness and all these things will be
added to us.
This is not a call for judgment and dissensions, but an awakening call for us Christians to realize that the devil is not asleep and just like Paul wrote his sectrets works are already being manifest in the world today. Let's trend carefully taking note of the Word, sound doctrine which is able to benefit the soul and save us from the day of judgement.

Amen


 But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness. 


      

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2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
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From emuyonga at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 08:51:15 2009
From: emuyonga at gmail.com (Enock Muyonga)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:51:15 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Urgently looking for a motivational speaker to
	speak at office retreat...
In-Reply-To: <5b1570940912010417v19430bb6g4510887943e14fd8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5b1570940912010417v19430bb6g4510887943e14fd8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1e1085f60912010551i61af08b1l42d3d2a25a2c4726@mail.gmail.com>

Try out James Gitonga. You can reach him on wanjohitalks at yahoo.com. He is
marvelous, I have atteded his motivational talks.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Tigeress <lizamwayi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Have you ever engaged a motivational speaker whom you can recommend to
> others... One that really touched/inspired you and got you on a new paradigm
> shift?
>
> kindly sambaza his/her contacts (email and phone if possible)....   We will
> be having a staff retreat in Jan and want to start the year by motiviating
> staff on how to perform best for the employer, whilst still pursuing their
> individual career goals..  Work ethics/attitudes etc ...  one who lets staff
> self-reflect and also uses exercises to drive points home....
>
> It will be a one session engagement e.g. morning session only....
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> --
> 2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
> call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
> Palmhouse
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>

-- 
2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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From stefaketch at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 08:20:22 2009
From: stefaketch at yahoo.com (stephanie aketch)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 05:20:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Kenyans voted ugliest in Africa
Message-ID: <389519.73867.qm@web52705.mail.re2.yahoo.com>



This is ...........hilarious


THIS IS SIMPLY PROVOCATIVE, OUTRAGEOUS AND RIDICULOUS, CAN'T BELIEVE THIS! IT'S OUTRIGHT DEFAMATORY INNUENDO!
 
Kenyans voted ugliest in Africa 
Kenyans were last weekend voted the funniest looking people in Africa . 
With 48 participating nations in the Annual Most Beautiful People of 
   Africa 
Awards, held at the Gregor Theatre in Bloemfontein SA, Kenya took the 
last position, dislodging Zambia and reclaiming the title it held in 2000. 
It posted 7pts out of a possible 540. The top position was taken by 
   Rwanda , followed by Cameroon and then Ethiopia as second runner up. The 
last three positions were Kenya at 48, Zambia at 47, then Gabon , at 46. 
The judges said they gave their points based on presentation, physical 
appearance, grooming, communication and other areas. They say that Kikuyu 
womenand Luo menpose the most weird features. 
Read this: 
 Women from the Kikuyu community have small legs, totally no figures, and a little 
exaggerated heads. They lack good behinds and those who have them look 
like 
inflated balloons. They are shaped like pyramids turned upside down. A 
big upper frame and an almost invisible lower bit. 
Luo men on the other side have distorted facial features..say big lips and 
huge noses or should we call them knobs. 
Kikuyu men are also un proportional, and most of them are stunted. 
They walk leaning forward. Plus they have long rusty teeth. 
Those from Kisii Districts are small people, the average Kenyan man will stop growing 
at 5m tops. 
  
Kisii men have mango shaped heads, and bowed legs, a feature also common 
in their Luhya counterparts
 
He goes on to describe Kalenjins as Funny 
little pitch black emaciated fellows, raking in millions from the track. 
However long they remain in Europe , their features never 
improve 
Nandis will have rounded foreheads and thin, long arms While 
occupants at the coast province are said to have
Wide faces, almost like 
a widescreen telly, especially taitas, and durumas 
Luhyas are the most weird creatures on earth. Men have very big noses and 
big lips while their partners have big funny looking hips and legs like 
those of animals. 
  
Kenyans do not know the meaning of good grooming, The writer says. The 
women hate their dark skins and opt for mercury bleaches which mess them 
up. The result: A scary (unpigmented) light face, black legs, and a black 
back.As much as the Kenyan accent, of standard English is admired, 
too much mother tongue interference, common in Merus, Kisiis, and 
Kikuyus. 


      

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2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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From mwaracn_08 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 08:55:40 2009
From: mwaracn_08 at yahoo.com (catherine njiiri)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 05:55:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] INVITATION TO A RELATIONSHIP CONFERENCE
In-Reply-To: <82dec6650912010450h62d1a52encf2c3a537f6b0cf4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <85822.52116.qm@web53601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Good idea,
?
?how about the singles??and?the 'un?engaged' ladies/guys(by choice). Ama i'm alone in this category? 


--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Moderator YP_Ke <youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Moderator YP_Ke <youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com>
Subject: [YP_Ke] INVITATION TO A RELATIONSHIP CONFERENCE
To: "youngprofessionals_ke" <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:50 AM





---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <conference at irismgt.com>
Date: Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Subject: Fwd: INVITATION TO A RELATIONSHIP CONFERENCE
To: youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com




Phanice Shamalla, 
Operations Manager 
Iris Management 
3rd Floor, Kipro Centre, Sports Rd, Westlands 
PO Box 64363 00620 NBI 

?Dear Sir,

What are your plans for the Jamhuri weekend? Why not get away from the hustle and bustle of the city and attend the first ever Relationships Conference. ?
?
The event is specially designed for married couples, newlyweds, engaged couples and generally couples who want to improve their relationships.
?
The conference will be held at in Tigoni, Kenya on the 12th and 13th December 2009.
?
The conference theme is ?Tools for Building Great Relationships?.
?
The Conference will offer all kinds of couples an opportunity to discuss matters affecting their relationships with psychologists, sexologists, lawyers and financial managers.
?
The conference will also be produced for an up-coming television show with Dr Chris.
?
Book early to enjoy significant discounts on the event! 
?
Find more information on the attachment.
Kind RegardsChakubuta

Telephone: +254 020 2504454 
+254 712 461 559
+254 731 540 091 
Email: info at irismgt.com 
Website: www.irismgt.com



-- 
Regards
YP_Ke Group Moderator


-- 
2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
?
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/



      

-- 
2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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From Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com  Tue Dec  1 10:02:45 2009
From: Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com (Dickens Odhiambo)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:02:45 -0500 
Subject: [Jambo] Don't dare censure Raila, Mutula warns
Message-ID: <EB0182407359D411BEBB009027CC692C079CEAF9@apollo.gmsi.com>

Don't dare censure Raila, Mutula warns 
Updated on: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 
Story by: Alfred Kyalo 
http://www.kenyatimesonline.com/

Sacking Prime Minister Raila Odinga through a motion of no-confidence could
result in a constitutional crisis in addition to stalling the reform agenda
and hampering the ongoing national reconciliation efforts, Justice minister
Mutula Kilonzo has warned.Speaking to journalists yesterday, Mutula warned
that passing such a motion against the PM who is a signatory to the National
Accord that legalised the power-sharing agreement could lead to the collapse
of the Grand Coalition Government and return the country to political crisis
that obtained before February 28, 2008 when the Accord was signed. In
expressing fears that a successful censure motion could be dangerous, Mutual
noted that such a move could derail the implementation of the reform agenda,
saying: "You need the grand coalition to be able to secure the reforms
needed by Kenyans." 

To this end, the minister warned against pursuing petty politics at the
expense of critical issues of national importance.He was referring to a
section of Rift Valley MPs who have locked horns with the Prime Minister
over the Mau restoration plan and who have threatened to punish the PM with
a censure motion because of his determination to evict people have
encroached on the water catchment resource. The said Rift Valley MPs claim
that Raila has targeted 'their people' for eviction instead of protecting
them because of the political support they accorded him during the 2007
general election. But although the Mau restoration is a government policy
that has been backed by Cabinet and Parliament, the said MPs, some said to
be beneficiaries of land in the water tower, have decided to personalise it
by targeting Raila for criticism. 

Despite the clear scientific facts concerning the need to rid the Mau of
human settlements in order to save it, the MPs are determined to see to it
that the conservation policy collapses so that the settlers retain their
positions in the catchment area. And Assistant Minister for Education Prof
Ayiecho Olweny has dared the Rift Valley MPs go ahead with the anti-Raila
motion, saying it will fail miserably. Speaking in Kisumu, Olwenyi who is
also Muhoroni MP warned Raila's detractors against politicizing the Mau
restoration plan. 
Kangundo MP Johnstone Muthama also voiced his opposition to the planned
motion, saying it could hurtle the country to the brink of another
precipice.Speaking to Kenya Times on phone yesterday, Muthama who is a
fierce critic of the PM, said this time round he would "not support such a
motion blindly." Said he: "Politicians should rise above petty politics and
address major issues affecting the nation." 

Muthama who is also Deputy Chief Whip in parliament said Raila's political
differences with Agriculture Minister William Ruto over the Mau evictions
are becoming a major concern for the country and should be contained before
they spill over. These remarks came amid claims that a section of Rift
Valley MPs allied to Agriculture Minister William Ruto are planning to move
a motion of no-confidence against the PM within the next 14 days, citing his
uncompromising stand on the Mau.The MPs are believed to be lobbying their
ODM-Kenya and Kanu counterparts to support the motion when it comes up in
Parliament.Despite giving provisions for such a motion, the National Accord
is, however, unclear on the constitutional direction the coalition
government should take in the event such a motion succeeds. 

The matter is particularly tricky because Raila, as an individual, plays a
critical role in the survival of the coalition government. Being a signatory
to the power-sharing agreement in his capacity as the person who contested
against President Kibaki in the 2007 presidential election and who disputed
the outcome of the polls, it is difficult to contemplate the coalition
government without Raila. On Sunday, Konoin MP Dr Julius Kones, hinted at
introducing a censure motion against Raila. The MP was quoted saying that
MPs critical of the PM's handling of the Mau issue would notify the Speaker
of their intention to table the motion. 

So far, House Speaker Kenneth Marende has stated that he is yet to receive
notice of such a motion but noted he will take the necessary steps once he
receives it.Cherangany's Joshua Kutuny, another Raila critic, said if the
evicted settlers are not compensated, the PM will be censured in
Parliament.The Rift MPs are counting on the support of their 'newly found
allies' in Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka's ODM-K party and Deputy Prime
Minister Uhuru Kenyatta's Kanu as well as legislators from smaller
parties.But Raila has brushed off the threats, maintaining that he is "ready
to pay any political price" in his drive to conserve the Mau complex. During
a public rally in his Langata constituency on Sunday, the PM accused those
criticizing him of politicizing the issue for their personal and political
gain. 

He maintained that the campaign to restore the Mau was unstoppable, adding
that those opposed to the Mau restoration exercise were wealthy landowners
exploiting the poor settlers. If the MPs make good their threat, this will
be the third time for such a motion to be brought during the reign of the
Grand Coalition government.Trade Minister Amos Kimunya and his Agriculture
counterpart William Ruto have in the past faced similar motions in
Parliament.Kimunya was forced to resign as Finance Minister after MPs
censured him. The legislators were incensed over the irregular sale of Grand
Regency hotel. However, Ruto who faced a similar motion over the maize saga
survived after a large number of legislators united to defeat the motion. 

And in an apparent plan to disguise Ruto's hand in the no-confidence motion,
Kones said they would use an MP from outside Rift Valley to table the
motion.But Kuresoi MP Zakayo Cheruiyot had over the weekend been quoted
saying Kutuny would move the motion.Cheruiyot expressed optimism that the
motion would succeed saying it has strong backing from majority MPs angered
by the PM's stand that has resulted in the 'humanitarian crisis' facing
those already evicted from the forest. A censure motion of this kind would
require only a simple majority of the voting MPs to succeed. Other than
Mutula and Muthama, two other MPs, Kambi Kazungu and Dhado Godana, have also
opposed the motion. 




From chemurwok at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 09:30:14 2009
From: chemurwok at gmail.com (sagongonyi chemurwok)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 17:30:14 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Querries on the Bible
Message-ID: <120f2fda0912010630j4d23499aw48bbbd0cdf3095f4@mail.gmail.com>

This message is for Pastor Abirai and those who profess christianity. I have
been reading the bible from Genesis and i am now in Leviticus. My questions:

1. After God created Adam and Eve and chased them from the garden of Eden,
they had children in the names of Cain and Abel. Cain married and moved to
Nod. Whom did Cain marry? did he marry his sister? how come we are not told
that Adam had other children after Cain and Abel before Cain married? it was
after Cain married that Seth was born to Adam and Eve. So, whom did this
Cain marry? Adam and Eve were the only human beings on earth before Cain and
abel.

2. The bible zeroes in on Israel from the beginning. When you check the
names being mentioned in the bible like Noah, Cain, Abel, Seth, etc they are
all Jewish names. Are we wrong if we say Genesis talks about creation in
reference to the Jews?

3. Exodus talks about the movement of the Jews from Egypt to the promised
land. Leviticus talks about the way of life of the Jews ie the DOs and the
DON'Ts. Where do we come in here? If you follow Exodus properly, you hear
God talk of my people. I was even shocked when i came accross a verse where
Moses is trying to advise God. Is that possible? when did God choose the
Jews to represent mankind?

My take is that the bible describes the history of the Jews and not mankind.
I will continue reading this book  and pose more querries to you.

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1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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From kenodhiss at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 09:49:33 2009
From: kenodhiss at yahoo.com (Kennedy Odhiambo)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 06:49:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] =?windows-1252?q?=5BYP=5FKe=5D_Mau_crisis_may_have_cement?=
	=?windows-1252?q?ed_Raila=92s_place_ahead_of_the_pack=2E?=
Message-ID: <953298.8807.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dear Colleagues,
?
I read with a lot of respect, Hon. Dr. Kilemi Mweria's article, in the East African Standard online of the 28th November 2009, titled: Mau crisis may have cemented Raila?s place ahead of the pack. 
?
I mean respect because, I saw in him a few remaining honest politicians who can still think along with the majority of Kenyans.
?
I am not supporting Raila for any other reason but on consistency?over the Mau Conservation, I stand to be one of?his loyal and daily customers for his proposed delicious mandazi's in Kibera, should his opponents succeed with their dirty political games. I think he will make a huge sales on a daily basis. After all I am a Langata Voter and "I am a member"
?
Kennedy Odhiambo
Juba,


      

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1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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From dianadola at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 13:14:55 2009
From: dianadola at gmail.com (didi)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:14:55 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] LYP's discuss the Draft constitution with HON
	MARTHA KARUA , Dont miss this.............
In-Reply-To: <e47ae9f50912010054o65c59508u81b432cd2c94aa65@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e47ae9f50912010054o65c59508u81b432cd2c94aa65@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87d466200912011014p56c140fpb54087ab15375095@mail.gmail.com>

count me in!\

i will definately be there.

diana.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:54 AM, josephine Ndambuki
<josekamanthe at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi good people,
> We  as Kenyans, as the  interfaces to our families, (some who may be
> enlightened in matters of constitution review and others who may have no
> clue what it means)  especially in this critical time of going through the
> draft constitution,  have been honored to have the presence of Hon. Martha
> Karua in our next meeting discussing *The Draft Constitution & The Role Of
> YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round.*
>
> Now, you may have questions, ideas and comments after reading the document,
> this is a good opportunity to come so that we can together brainstorm and
> see our role in this. Therefore, Lets all turn up in numbers to brainstorm
> and get to air our views ion this!
>
> The meeting details are:-
>
> *VENUE:              Marble Arch Hotel
> **DATE:               Thursday 3rd December 2009
> **TIME:               6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> **GUEST SPEAKER:  Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional
> Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP.
> **TOPIC:              The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure
> Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will    Also Talk On the Mau
> Politics.
> ** Program**
> **Registration        6:00pm ? 6:00pm
> **Meeting Call        6:10 ? 6:12
> **Prayers:            6:12 ? 6:15
> **Introductions       6:15 ? 6: 25
> **Talk                 6:35 ? 7:20
> **Vote Of Thanks:   7:20 ? 7:25
> **Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
> **
> *Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
> call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
> Palmhouse foundation.
>
> --
> Best Regards
> Josephine Kamanthe
> Tel: +254 723 736 086
>
>
>
> 3 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
> call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
> Palmhouse
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>



-- 
Never say sorry to one who likes you,
Never say bye to one who needs you,
never blame the one who really trusts you,
Never forget the one who always remembers you.

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VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

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From jairuschurch at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 15:59:23 2009
From: jairuschurch at yahoo.com (Jagem K'Onyiego)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 12:59:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re : am from DRC KINSHASA
In-Reply-To: <904569.84070.qm@web23401.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <179223.44885.qm@web62103.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Most interesting. You get what you ask for. And right here Peterson asked for a Person from DRC, and sure he got one Mbila Wabenya who can "speack Very well french". Perteson, What is your problem? Olobaki nini? Mbongo? Ozamona!
?
You better hook up with Mbeya very fast.
Tokomonana.
?
K'Onyiego???

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Mbila Wabenya <mbilawabenya at yahoo.fr> wrote:


From: Mbila Wabenya <mbilawabenya at yahoo.fr>
Subject: [YP_Ke] Re : am from DRC KINSHASA
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 3:16 AM






-





De : Sir Peterson <sirpetersonjr at gmail.com>
? : youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Envoy? le : Mar 1 D?cembre 2009, 14 h 12 min 37 s
Objet?: [YP_Ke] RE: Are you from DRC, Zambia or Zimbabwe.
? 
I CAN FROM KINSHASA IN DRC AND I HAVE MARIED BUT I HAVE 4 CHILDREN 
I SPEACK VERRY WELL FRENCH.
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?

Dear Young Professionals,
Am from Nairobi, Kenya and am looking for someone from either Kinsasha in the DRC, Lusaka Zambia or Harare Zimbabwe. If you are from any of these countries, kindly contact me ASAP through email: kipcopi at gmail.com 
-- 
2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
?
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/


-- 
2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
?
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/



      

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1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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From prcanb at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 19:37:56 2009
From: prcanb at yahoo.com (Absalom Birai)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:37:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] AIDS Day: Very heart breaking pictures/Stories!
Message-ID: <226468.32839.qm@web38704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Today was AIDS Day! The news,stories,and the pictures moved me into tears. To see children taking care of other children because their parents were affected with the scourge, was just too painful. How I wish I was         a millionaire for I would have done something to help the orphans,victims of the disease.

Stories of those whose lives have been destroyed by the disease, were heart breaking indeed! People have lived with the disease one day at a time but with the knowledge that they will go any time soon!

Have we learned any lessons yet? Do we have all the information on AIDS and HIV? Are we careful with our life styles? I am afraid not! Some of us act as if life is normal.AIDS doesn't scare anyone any more. The only time that we cry,regret, and wish that we had done things differently, is when we test positive. By then,its for ever too late.

Some of us need to slow down;No,we need to change our lifestyle for ever.Let us know for a fact that AIDS lives with us. Anyone can be 
a carrier. Do everything possible to live a clean life. If not,one day you will be in tears;then, you will be struggling alone.

Let us pray for one another and stop playing around with the borrowed lives. Shall we?

Pr Birai
612-386-4608
www.pastorbirai.com




      

-- 
1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/


From ppa at africaonline.co.ke  Tue Dec  1 22:16:55 2009
From: ppa at africaonline.co.ke (People For Peace)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:16:55 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] Regional News
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1259729210.2604.jambo_publiceyesite.org@publiceyesite.org>

 

 

Colleagues Home & Abroad Regional News 

 

CHALLENGES OF RECONCILIATION AND HEALING IN KENYA

 

BY PPA-REGIONAL NEWS TEAM

NAIROBI-KENYA

DECEMBER 2, 2009

 

In his long essay submitted in partial fulfilment of the requirements for
the award of a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Theology at Tangaza College of
Catholic University (CUEA) entitled: Challenges of Reconciliation and
Healing in peace-mission: Post Election Violence in Kenya-
Anthrop-Theological Reflection Andruga Mike Maiku Jon argues that in order
to have a genuine reconciliation, forgiveness and healing we need to respond
first to the thousands of deaths, to the mass graves, to the victims of
torture whose lives can never be the same again, to the families who
suffered damage that cannot be completely repaired.

 

An essay supervised by Fr Joachim Omolo Ouko, AJ who has been also Andruga's
teacher on Justice and Peace, he is challenging Christians and religious
leaders on their role to public ministry on reconciliation and healing in
Kenyan post-election violence.

 

Given that Jesus Christ who reconciled and healed the broken-hearted people
during his public ministry, Andruga argues that he should be a model for the
Kenyans especially the Christian and religious men and women, young and
adults in this country in the process of reconciliation and healing.

 

This is because peace making was central in Jesus' agenda during his public
ministry; healing people from various illnesses, casting out demons,
incorporating the sinners/outcast to the society in full dignity, 'peace be
with you', the post resurrection announcement to the fearful apostles-the
runaway friends, become the reason for his incarnation and the final goal in
eschatology; The culmination of entire Christ's event.

 

He wonders what could be the attitude of Jesus towards the perpetrators of
post election violence (the envelopes of Waki Report), the message on
providence of God.

 

With the spirit, Jesus was united with the father, to proclaim good news for
the broken hearted so that their brokenness is transformed and liberty for
those in bondage of laws, demons, prejudice, and ethnocentrism and be
transformed for peace. Freedom from oppression; oppressed by sins poverty,
anger, fear, leadership and greed of power, money: freedom in Jesus is for
everyone; authentic freedom in Jesus terribly amount to peace.

 

Peace was Christ's first gift of post-resurrection to the fearful and
disappointed apostles: 'peace be with you, as the father sent me, so I send
you' (Jn. 20:23). Hence, he mandated them to continue his peace-mission. The
apostles in their turn handed down this peace-mission of Christ to the
church and down to our time. Therefore, we are challenge by Christ not to
lose sight of him in carrying out the central message of his
peace-mission-the mission of the blessed Trinity.

 

The relevance of his work is to present the challenge of peace-mission as an
ongoing human existential challenge and an ecclesial challenge in
particular; peace is a culminating point of all human endeavour and the
highest point of ecclesial promise, and in fact the entire promise of all
world religions.

 

In this work he demonstrates to the readers that, there is one highest
desire common to all human race, live alone other creatures; the desire for
peace. The most wanted criminals became criminals/ terrorists in their
search for peace at least subjectively; 'if I live side by side with my
'enemy' I would not be at peace'. That is why the teaching of Jesus, 'love
your enemy'-to be at peace with your enemy is still very difficult to be
assimilated by his followers even in our time, especially given that
violence erupted because votes were stolen.

 

According to the Office of United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights
(OHCHR) which visited Kenya from 6 to 28 February 2008 on fact-finding
concludes that, irregularities in the electoral process were prime trigger
of the post-election violence.

 

It explains why the spontaneous trend of violence occurred immediately
following the announcement of the contested result, whereby the opposition
party with their supporters took to the streets in protest predominantly in
Kisumu and Nairobi slums.

 

The OHCHR fact-finding team with detail information ascertained that, in
other places namely Kibera slum area of Nairobi, Eldoret and Kisumu the
administration police and GSU used excessive force amounting to death and
injuries of many people, even children.

 

In his way forward Andruga  proposes that the dialogue should be mediated by
non-member of the communities involve and should draw members from all the
communities involved and there should be a model as point of focus; this is
because the leaders seems to have fallen short to be a model in this case
even the community elders.

 

He is also proposing that  'peace education  should be introduced in schools
and other public forum', this should be aimed towards the youth because they
are vulnerable group who were used and could still be used easily by
politicians special those languishing in situation of unemployment and
poverty.

 

Through formal organization of peace education, the young generation hopeful
would have a better understanding of the members of other communities; that
would reduce cultural stereotype and biases. They would begin to look at
their own culture with critical eyes and appreciating the giftedness of the
people of other cultures. Hence, would begin to de-programme themselves from
the lie of their respective 'ethnic god-fathers'. This is one of the
important steps towards building 'the Kenya we want'.

 

Institutions of higher learning as a long term programs should adjust its
educational syllabus to include elements of peace studies in every
department so that every grandaunt within his/her profession has an official
mandate for peace mission from academic point of view. If we are contented
to say peace is a concern for everyone, then we are challenge to get involve
to form everyone in attitudes and intellectual power.

 

Out reach and conferences, seminars, workshops symposia are of outmost
important service the institutions of higher learning ought to offer as a
contribution to reconciliation and healing process this country is going
through.

 

Unfortunately, the struggle for leadership and students' organization in
universities still on the testing ground of ethnic divides; the campaign and
election in Kenyatta University is a recent example to illustrate this point
and the tribal students organization in Catholic University of Eastern
Africa and Tangaza college, just a few to mention are still going on
unabated.

 

Andruga proposes further that for a long term there should be constitutional
and institutional reforms and an end to impunity as keys to addressing
long-term issues of justice and peace.  Constitutional reform should take
into account major reforms in land policy; that means it should aim at legal
issues on land disputes and government should have in its power the land of
Kenya for Kenyans and formulate a policy to settle her people who have
become squatters in their own country.

 

At institutional level, the government has to develop a just policy to
safeguard the tenants from injustice and abuses of landlords/landladies;
overcharging and cases of illegitimate landlords/landladies: situation,
which keeps landlords/landladies and tenants in potential conflict
relations; like such situation in Nakuru as discussed previously in this
chapter.

 

Trauma healing is also a key to sustainable peace: The post-election
violence, no doubt has negative impact in people's memory, directly or
indirectly. Sustainable peace is nothing other than cumulative peace, first
experience by individual members of the society; which comes from personal
and collective healing from anger, fear, revenge, and ethnic prejudice and
lies.

An assessment of psycho-physiological function should be conducted and
treatment of automatic symptoms is to be considered, so that the individual
can begin to re-establish a sense of personal, physical control.

 

This will invite the people who have lost trust from one another would once
more begin to trust and recover their common humanity and self-hood and
beginning to own their suffering, pain and managing their anger, then they
will begin to experience inner-peace.

 

Bishop Cornelius Korir assertion is of a living challenge for those of us
engaged in the process of sustainable peace; 'peace must begin where
conflict is, not in a rarefied, air-conditioned atmosphere.'  Someone may
wander, how easy it is to mediate a reconciliation and healing process in
this manner; yes, it possible of course not too easy.

 

That is why there is need to non-violence approach. This is because it
challenges us to move towards fuller life of love and community of God's
children-a one human family. It is a basic attitude when we are seeking
reconciliation and healing for communities.

 

John Dear in his book underlined four basic qualities of non-violence
attitude; remembering and acting out of our basic identities, unconditional
love which accept suffering in order to right wrongs and serve others
humbly, active resistance to violence and injustice through courageous
truth-seeking and finally prayer: '.because God loves the suffering
humanity, and the whole human family unconditionally'.

 

It explains why the catholic social teaching condemned violence as a means
of bringing peace with strongest words possible; Violence is never a proper
response. With the conviction of her faith in Christ and with the awareness
of her mission, the church proclaims "that violence is evil, that violence
is unacceptable as a solution to problems, that violence is unworthy of man.
Violence is a lie, for it goes against the truth of our faith, the truth of
our humanity. Violence destroys what it claims to defend: the dignity, the
life, the freedom of human beings.

 

The witness of archbishop Oscar Romero of El Salvador is still a relevant
memory in our time and challenging the church of today and more insistently
the church in Kenya; he inspires people with words and actions to transform
state endorsed violence by addressing courageously the root causes of
violence to the extend of risking his life to death.

 

People for Peace in Africa (PPA)
P O Box 14877
Nairobi
00800, Westlands
Kenya

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Tel 254-20-4441372
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From editor at africanexecutive.com  Tue Dec  1 23:11:16 2009
From: editor at africanexecutive.com (The Editor)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 07:11:16 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] The African Executive Issue 241
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From jairuschurch at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  2 00:32:10 2009
From: jairuschurch at yahoo.com (Jagem K'Onyiego)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:32:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Urgently looking for a motivational speaker to
	speak at office retreat...
In-Reply-To: <e381681d0912010817yab72c24w21f40fc93ea7a091@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <841171.16672.qm@web62103.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Omwami Majiwa papa,
?
I am abit naive when it comes to some things. My mind?gets very hazy especially when confronted with a little bit of Confusion.
?
Now here, I would like some clarification from you, regarding your suggestion of Mr "Elephant" (Ndlovu) as a motivational Speaker to the YP's proposed event. These are the questions:
1. What are the intended goals to be achieved??
2.?How will we address the objectives to achieve them 'goals'?

It looks to me that this your Ndlovu man is well packaged for improving the organizational abilities of either individuals and or Organizations. But the Speaker that YP's need, is a person specialized in motivating the masses to effect change based on good Governance. I say this because we have thousands of successful people with exellent organizational skills, but a very large percentage of these people?do not have a clue on how to?motivate any soul on, good day to day Governance. As such they will not have a clue on necessary steps to be taken to effect real change in Society.
?
I would say that the right people that?YP needs, are the likes of President Obama or "Mandiba."? Now, using these people as the Barometer or the Datum YP, can sieve?a number of names, then Zero in on individual speakers who can be able to deliver on those goals and objectives of achieving them.
?
Who will make the YP transform itself into a vehicle of Change in?good Governance of the country Kenya, which is being rapped by her Leaders? Who will motivate YPs to be able to mobilize the masses in a direction of change? INDIVIDUAL Improvement or Cooporate may be part of it, but I believe, these are not the main goals nor the objectives in achieving goals that is needed at this moment in time.
?
Just my two cents, ama "Pesa nane Politics'.
?
K'Onyiego?
?
--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Moses Majiwa <moses.majiwa at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Moses Majiwa <moses.majiwa at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Urgently looking for a motivational speaker to speak at office retreat...
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 8:17 AM


You can also talk to Mr. Zwelibanzi Ndlovu www.zwelibanzi.biz he
teaches at Strathmore but is specialised in change management, he is a
powerful motivational speaker. Check his given website for details of
his contacts.

2009/12/1 Wawira Ndwiga <wndwiga at gmail.com>:
> try Mbugua Mumbi i loved his motivation style when we had our team building
>
> website: http://www.successsignature.net
> Profile: http://www.mbuguamumbi.com/
> ?????????? http://www.mbuguamumbi.com/Profile.html
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Martin Thairu <mthairu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey...I cant think of a better person than my former boss and currently
>> the Secretary of Culture, Ministry of Culture and National Heritage. You can
>> also try a guy who used to inspire us back then in school and as members of
>> St John Ambulance Brigade, his name is Milton Jumba (gues he can be serached
>> via facebook), I think he is now a pastor or something, or the Chairman of
>> Martin Luther King Jr Foundation who coincidentally was the founder
>> President of the Kenya Childrens Cabinet, his name is Mwangi Mukami (there
>> are some clips of him on the net you can google an have a look)
>>
>> Hope one of those can be of?help
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Tigeress <lizamwayi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Have you ever engaged a motivational speaker whom you can recommend to
>>> others... One that really touched/inspired you and got you on a new paradigm
>>> shift?
>>>
>>> kindly sambaza his/her contacts (email and phone if possible)....?? We
>>> will be having a staff retreat in Jan and want to start the year by
>>> motiviating staff on how to perform best for the employer, whilst still
>>> pursuing their individual?career goals..? Work ethics/attitudes etc ...? one
>>> who lets staff self-reflect and also uses exercises to drive points home....
>>>
>>> It will be a one session engagement e.g. morning session only....
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> 2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
>>>
>>> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
>>> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
>>> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
>>> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
>>> Minister, Gichugu MP.
>>> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
>>> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>>>
>>> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
>>> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
>>> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
>>> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
>>> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
>>> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
>>> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>>>
>>> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
>>> call
>>> 254 721 663 208.
>>>
>>> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
>>> Palmhouse
>>> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>>
>> --
>> 2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
>>
>> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
>> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
>> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
>> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
>> Minister, Gichugu MP.
>> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
>> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>>
>> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
>> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
>> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
>> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
>> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
>> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
>> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>>
>> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
>> call
>> 254 721 663 208.
>>
>> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
>> Palmhouse
>> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>
> --
> 2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
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From: jairuschurch at yahoo.com (Jagem K'Onyiego)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:01:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Querries on the Bible
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Chemurwok,
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You are doing the right thing. Just read the Bible in these areas. And please take a very big note of the first five books, that is Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. Those books and espeacially Leviticus spells out the Rules of engagement for the "Children of Israel" (These are the Hebrews) 
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Note that I have put them children, in bold and italic. 
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I did this in order to clear a confusion that seems to?arise in, as to who is who? Now the Children of Israel must not be confused with JEWS.? The Children of Israel are descendants of one Jacob son of Isaak. Jews on the other hand are descended from Ashkenaz. This is because most Jews in the present State of Israel refer to themselves as Ashkenaz Jews. Others are Shepheardin Jews who are descended from one Esau (Edom) as is revealed in the Book. And the Book also commands you never ever to add or subtract from it.
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I will leave it for you there, to dig deeper, for it is not for me to reveal to you what is written in the Holy Book. Just read for yourself and see. The truth shall set you free. On this, not even Pastor Birai or the Pope himself can shed good light to you. The book reveals it all. It will shock you. Infact you might end up discovering where the "Lost tribe of Israel" are.
Over to the?Holy Book.
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From: sagongonyi chemurwok <chemurwok at gmail.com>
Subject: [YP_Ke] Querries on the Bible
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 6:30 AM


This message is for Pastor Abirai and those who profess christianity. I have been reading the bible from Genesis and i am now in Leviticus. My questions:

1. After God created Adam and Eve and chased them from the garden of Eden, they had children in the names of Cain and Abel. Cain married and moved to Nod. Whom did Cain marry? did he marry his sister? how come we are not told that Adam had other children after Cain and Abel before Cain married? it was after Cain married that Seth was born to Adam and Eve. So, whom did this Cain marry? Adam and Eve were the only human beings on earth before Cain and abel.

2. The bible zeroes in on Israel from the beginning. When you check the names being mentioned in the bible like Noah, Cain, Abel, Seth, etc they are all Jewish names. Are we wrong if we say Genesis talks about creation in reference to the Jews?

3. Exodus talks about the movement of the Jews from Egypt to the promised land. Leviticus talks about the way of life of the Jews ie the DOs and the DON'Ts. Where do we come in here? If you follow Exodus properly, you hear God talk of my people. I was even shocked when i came accross a verse where Moses is trying to advise God. Is that possible? when did God choose the Jews to represent mankind? 

My take is that the bible describes the history of the Jews and not mankind. I will continue reading this book? and pose more querries to you. 

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From: abuayman88 at yahoo.com (abu Ayman)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:04:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
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Hi Ekambi
Perhaps this article by the Ahmed Isaack Hassan a fomer commissioner with the defunct CKRC and current chairman of the Interim Independent Electoral Commission will give an insight on why the Kadhis courts should be ingrained in the constitution. By the way Muslims are not opposed to any attempt by Christian or other faiths also having what they consider as their laws in the constitution.

Thanks

Abu Ayman


THE KADHI'S COURTS - Setting the Records straight
(By Ahmed Issack Hassan, Commissioner, CKRC)
Introduction:  
The
new Draft Constitution published by the Constitution of Kenya Review
Commission in October 2002 has generated a lot of debate and discussion
as was expected and required under the Law. Among the many Provisions
of the Draft Bill that came under scrutiny and analysis was the one
dealing with the Kadhis Courts judging by the copious amount of
correspondence and arguments for and against that have appeared in the
press. This article aims at informing the on-going debate by setting
out some of the basic facts about the Kadhis Courts that appear to have
been ignored in the debate and analysis.
It is important
to approach every issue calmly and objectively and not subjectively,
emotionally and with a pre-conceived idea/mind. But much more
importantly, it is crucial to get all the facts correct about any issue
before jumping to conclusion. It is only then that one can make an
informed decision. An objective and honest discussion about the Kadhis
Courts must consider their history and present status, the Commission's
mandate and what the people said before coming to the stage of
analysing the present draft constitution.
Historically,
Kadhis Courts existed in the East Coast of Africa long before
colonization. In Kenya, they existed in the Coast, which at the time of
colonization, was under the Sultan of Zanzibar. In 1895, the Sultan
gave the British power to administer the 10 mile coastal strip subject
to their respecting the existing Kadhis Courts among other conditions.
The British did so and declared a protectorate over the coast while the
rest of Kenya was a colony proper. The Sultan however retained
sovereignty over the 10 mile coastal strip. During the last years of
the independence struggle and at the start of the Lancaster House
Constitutional talks in 1961, the status and fate of the coastal strip
came up for determination. The British organised separate talks for the
delegates from the protectorate of the coast and those from the Kenya
Colony. The British Government and Sultan of Zanzibar also appointed a
Commissioner, Mr. James R. Robertson, to study the issue of the coastal
strip, consult all those concerned and report to them. In his report,
entitled, "The Kenya Coastal Strip ? Report by the Commissioner", he
reported that opinion was divided as to whether the coastal strip
should join Kenya, or be declared independent on its own, or reverted
back to the Sultan of Zanzibar. He however recommended that it should
be joined with Kenya subject to the Kenya Government guaranteeing to
respect the existence of the Kadhis Courts among other conditions. The
Prime Minister of Kenya, Jomo Kenyatta and the Prime Minister of
Zanzibar, Mr. Shamte on behalf of the Sultan of Zanzibar, then signed
an agreement in October, 1963, in the form of an exchange of letters
whereby the Sultan of Zanzibar relinquished/surrendered his claim of
sovereignty over the coast to Kenya in return for mzee Kenyatta
guaranteeing the continued existence of the Kadhis Courts among other
guarantees. When the independence constitution was written, the Kadhis
Courts were enshrined under the chapter on Judiciary.
 
At
Independence, the Kenya Government expressed its sovereign desire not
to be bound automatically by all the pre-independence treaties and
agreements entered into by the colonial Government. By his note
reference EXT. 237/003A of 25th March, 1964, addressed to the Secretary
General of the United Nations, mzee Jomo Kenyatta informed the United
Nations of the Kenya Government's intention to review all
pre-independence treaties and agreements and determine which agreements
will be honoured by the Government and those which will be abrogated or
modified after appropriate notice to the interested parties. It is
important to note that the 1963 agreement between the Kenya Government
and the Sultan of Zanzibar concerning the Kenya Coastal Strip and the
preservation of the Kadhis Courts was among those agreements that were
immediately honoured by the newly independent Kenya Government. This is
proved by the fact that the independence constitution of 1963 enshrined
the Kadhis Courts under Chapter 5 in the Judiciary and thereafter
Parliament passed the Kadhis Courts Act, the Mohammedan Marriage and
Divorce Registration Act and the Mohammedan Marriage, Divorce and
Succession Act to make these courts fully operational and functioning.
At independence, the Kadhis Court were 3. In 1967, the Kadhis Courts
Act was passed which increased the courts to 6. They have subsequently
been increased and today they are more than a dozen spread over the
country.
The Kadhis Courts were entrenched in the
constitution as a measure of safeguarding the integrity of the
agreement reached on them. If the courts were established under
Ordinary Law by an Act of Parliament alone, then it would have made
them vulnerable since any decision to abolish them would have required
a simple majority of the members of parliament to repeal the Act. Under
the present standing orders of Parliament which sets the quorum of the
house at 30, it means that only sixteen (16) Members of Parliament
could do so. In contrast, to abolish the courts as enshrined in the
constitution would require a two-thirds (2/3) majority in Parliament.
As a minority therefore the Muslims in Kenya find great relief and
solace in the entrenchment of the Kadhis Courts in the Constitution.
Section
66 of the current constitution provides for the Chief Kadhi and Kadhi's
Courts and states their powers as being to decide on issues of Muslim
personal law between Muslims i.e marriage, divorce and inheritance.
The
Commission's mandate under the Law is to collect, collate and analyse
the views of Kenyans on changes to be made to the constitution and to
recommend amendments or other changes thereto which faithfully reflects
the views and wishes of Kenyans. The commission was to study the
judiciary, among other institutions, and seek people's views on how the
judiciary could be improved. The Kadhis Courts are part of the
judiciary and the legal systems. When the commission issued "issues and  questions" for public hearing to guide the people in the collection of the views,
the same contained questions on what was to be done to the Chief Kadhi
and Kadhis Courts. Many of the people, organizations and experts who
gave views on the Kadhis courts did not at all question their existence
but advocated for their retention with some improvements or 
 
modifications.
The Muslims generally asked for the enhancement of the role and status
of the courts while in some cases like in N.E. Province, they asked for
the full application of Sharia Law in their areas. The team of judicial
experts and eminent scholars from the Commonwealth in their report on
the judiciary also recommended the retention of the Kadhis Courts in
their present form. A group of Human Rights and Legal Organisations
such as KHRC, LSK, ICJ, FIDA, etc, also prepared a model constitution
under the motto, "Kenya Tuitakayo" (the Kenya we
want) and in that model constitution, they also recommended for the
retention of the Kadhis Court with their present jurisdiction and for
the Chief Kadhi to have minimum academic qualification and to enjoy the
same status and privileges as a High Court Judge. 
In
recommending improvements to the Kadhis Courts, the commission was
faithfully reflecting an analysis of the views it received. It is
therefore wrong to suggest that CKRC is favouring Muslims or creating
parallel court structure or introducing Sharia Law through the back
door. The commission did not receive any views for the creation of
courts for Jews, Hindus or others. Sharia Law is not being introduced
as the jurisdiction of the Kadhis Courts are clearly confined to
matters of personal Law between Muslims. There will be no stoning to
death for adultery or cutting of hands even for the Muslims in Kenya as
this is covered by Islamic Criminal Law which is not permitted here in
Kenya either in the present constitution or under the new draft bill.
The
Kadhis Courts do not exist in Kenya alone. Several countries in Africa
and the Commonwealth that have a significant population of Muslims
provide for these courts in their constitutions and Laws to cater for
the regulation of the personal status of their Muslim Citizens. Save
for those countries that have established Islamic states which apply
Islamic Law throughout the country, other states tend to limit the
jurisdiction of these Courts to matters affecting the personal status
of the Muslims. In some cases, the jurisdiction is exclusive to the
Kadhis Courts while in others the Courts are established as subordinate
Courts to the Secular High Courts or Supreme Court. The Kadhis Courts
are also called Qadhis Courts (Uganda), Cadi Court (Gambia), Sharia
Court (Nigeria), Shariat Court (Pakistan) and Religious Court (Jordan). 
The Nigeria constitution provides for the establishment
of the Kadi and Sharia Courts in the states and in the Federation. The
Sharia Court of Appeal is to compose of the Grand Kadi and such number
of Kadis as may be prescribed by Law. The jurisdiction of the Sharia
Courts is listed under Sections 262 and 277 of the Constitution. The
qualification for appointment to the office of Grand Kadi or Kadi of
the Sharia Court of Appeal is set out by Sections 261 and 266 of the
Constitution. Sections 264 and 279 give the grand Kadi, who is
equivalent to the Chief Kadhi in Kenya, the Power to make rules for
regulating the Practice and Procedure of the Sharia Court.  The major
difference between the Kadhis Courts in Nigeria and Kenya is that the
former apply full Islamic Sharia law while in Kenya, the jurisdiction
is limited to personal law i.e marriage, divorce and inheritance which
is the case in Gambia and Uganda.  
 
The
Gambian Constitution under Section 137, establishes the Cadi Court to
be constituted by the Cadi and two other Scholars qualified to be a
Cadi or Ulama. Appeals from this Court goes to a review Court composed
of the Cadi and four ulamas (Islamic Scholars). The Cadi Court has
jurisdiction to apply Islamic Sharia in matters of marriage, divorce
and inheritance where the parties before the Court are Muslims.  The
qualification for appointment to the position of Cadi requires a person
of high moral standing and professional qualification in Sharia Law.
The
Ugandan Constitution establishes the Qadhis Courts under Section 129 as
one of the subordinate Courts of judicature exercising judicial power
in Uganda to deal with matters of marriage, divorce, inheritance of
property and guardianship. 
The argument that the
Provisions in the Draft Constitution treat other religions less
favourably is clearly without merit. Article 44 of the Draft Bill is a
basket clause containing several sections guaranteeing and protecting
the freedom of religion for all. The Kadhis Courts, which fall under
the Chapter on the Judiciary, could not have been brought under the
ambit of article 44 which comes under the Chapter on Human Rights. The
Kadhis Courts should be seen in the context of the judiciary and the
legal system and not as a religious or Muslim issue alone. Those
opposing the Kadhis Courts and making allegation of bias for Muslims
are politicising the issue and creating unnecessary tension and
disharmony between the Muslims and their Kenyan brothers and sisters.
By whipping up emotions of other people who may not have all the facts
before them, these people are undermining the goals of the
constitutional review process which is inter alia to unite the country
and to respect and promote the ethnic and religious diversity of the
people of Kenya. It is the hope of all those who wish to see the
continuation of the peace and harmony that exists between the different
religious communities in Kenya that men and women of goodwill in Kenya
will see through the propaganda war being waged against the Kadhis
Courts and support the recommendations of CKRC which is a faithful
reflection and analysis of the views received from the people.
 


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From: "jekambi at daystar.ac.ke" <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 7:40:40 AM
Subject: Re:Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.

The whole constitution gives rights to all faith, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Traditionists, etc X100, to freely worship in whichever way. All but one has its rights stipulated in the unifying constitution, WHY?

Each of these groupings have own constitutions that help them run their affairs, only should they conflict with the unifying constitution, then troubles begin. No one is saying no to Khadhi courts being in some constitution, all we are skeptical about is why in the main one. The reasoning that the other religions have not asked, in not intellectual and wise. These other religions have their holy books and own written something. But they too have a right to fight for their right. But what is ones right? Let?s be reasonable and sober in this matter. The constitution is not about us, it is about a Kenyan people, the posterity, and the future.

History is always the best focal point of reference. No one is telling us how the Kadhi court came into being, where they came from, and why they were include. No one is telling us on its limits/boundaries. If we can get the original Lancaster manuscript, honestly it will help. But for now, everybody is fighting, it must/it must not. These will not get us moving. Books of authority are there, let?s use them.

The culture of tolerance, to me means, I respect the feelings of all and accommodate all. I must not have my way, I should allow every body equally footing and chance. Lets listen to every body, even children. Give all an opportunity especially the future.

It is not this is our thing, it must be there. NO NOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.


Ekambi

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasmey Aellah <jasmey at gmail.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com;
Sent: Tuesday 12/1/2009 9:16:30 PM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION ...

>Well said Abu, i am a Cristian but still cant help the so called church's
>dim view on Kadhi's court issue. Its every organization's aim to expand,
>whats wrong with islam spreading its wings. Have the radical preachers
>stopped one moment to think and realise that there is one God !! This is
>worse than tribalism! There are Kenyan Muslims and the freedom of worship
>applies to all. Please stop hate campaign
>
>On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> The presentation you are circulating is part of the lies and propaganda
>> peddled by the a section of Christians who are mainly radical evangelists
>> against the Kadhis courts. Just to remind you the so-called communique which
>> is being pointed at is alleged to have been ame in 1989 wheras the Kadhis
>> courts were in existence even before there was a single person in Kenya who
>> adhere to the Christian faith.
>>
>> Secondly, yr presentation is nothing new. Exactly the same information was
>> peddled and circulated during the last referendum to hoodwink Kenyans about
>> the courts. This was accompanied by leaflets distributed in churches showing
>> that  violence will break out if the Kadhi courts are incorporated in the
>> constitution.
>> For generations, the courts were in the Kenyan law books and we never saw
>> any of the so-called Abuja declarations being incorporated nor violence btn
>> Muslims and Christians as a result of the courts.
>>
>> It is high time  that a culture of tolerance was exhibited as contrary to
>> these, we should not listen to such characters who happen to create discord
>> among the different Kenyan communities who have lived in peace and harmony
>> for generations.
>>
>>
>>
>> Abu Ayman
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* jekambi <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
>>
>> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Tue, December 1, 2009 3:25:17 PM
>> *Subject:* [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Brethren,
>>
>> Kindly read the attached PowerPoint presentation and forward it to others.
>> It will go a long way and possibly help to save our country; remember that
>> ?a stitch in time saves nine?.
>>
>>
>>
>> God bless you,
>>
>>
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
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>> Minister, Gichugu MP.
>> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
>> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>>
>> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
>> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
>> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
>> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
>> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
>> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
>> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
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>VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
>DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
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>TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
>Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
>Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
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>Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
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Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
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DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
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From flozyhwills at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  2 01:32:01 2009
From: flozyhwills at yahoo.com (florence auma)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:32:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] HELP
Message-ID: <817259.28074.qm@web37008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi guys anyone with accounting e books pliz help



      

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VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
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From ndiritujg at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  2 01:50:34 2009
From: ndiritujg at yahoo.com (john ndiritu)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:50:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] AIDS Day: Very heart breaking pictures/Stories!
In-Reply-To: <226468.32839.qm@web38704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <226468.32839.qm@web38704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <382969.30771.qm@web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Your email, Pastor, raises some important questions that i feel we should all attempt to respond to in a way. I would like to share my thoughts on the same:

Have we learned any lessons yet?? yes pastor we have learnt a couple of lessons that i would gladly share with you.
	* Living with HIV does not mean 'you will go any time soon'. Most people are afraid of geting to know their status or are afraid to be associated with people who are living with HIV because they are afraid the people will soon die. This is not only incorrect but shows lack of information. I would recommend that we all read todays Stardard and Nation newspapers to see how people living with HIV have had long and fruitful lives. 
	* Yes i agree we all need to protect ourselves from infection but if you are? already infected, this does not mean you life is forever destroyed. You can still live a fulfilling life, achieve your goals be they financial, career or educational. yes you can still rise to be the director of that company or the professor or the Bishop you always dreamt of being. Visit the nearest hospital for more information on management of HIV and how to positvely live with the Virus. "You will not be struggling alone" for there are millions others who are living positevely with HIV and many more millions who are concerned and willing to lend a hand to all those living with HIV. Do not suffer in silence! seek help.
	* Testing HIV positive is not 'for ever to late' if? i may use your words. the two stories in todays papers mentioned above clearly illustrates that.
	* There are no HIV carriers. You are either infected with HIV or not. You could be living with HIV and not know as long as your immune system is still strong, therefore, no symptoms would be manifest. It is therefore recommended that we all take a HIV test. Jitambue leo!
	* I do not know what you mean by saying we need to live a 'clean life', but one lesson we have learnt is that HIV does not discriminate. it is not an infection for people living a certain lifestyle.? What am i trying to say? Not being infected or being infected with HIV is not an indicator of an individuals morals or lack of the same. 
	* You do not have to be a millionaire to touch the life of? an orphan or a child living with HIV. Each an everyone of us can make their lives better in a million different ways. You do not need a single shilling in your pocket to show love, to stand up to that relative who wants to exploit the orphans or to run to the chiefs or childrens officer to report cases of those orphans that are being exploited everyday as househelps, farm hands, being disinherited?etc.
We all have a role to play in preventing the spread of HIV. What have you done today to protect yourself, you spouse/partner, your son/daughter, househelp, friend, staff in your company, your congreggation? 
?
Regards
John


________________________________
From: Absalom Birai <prcanb at yahoo.com>
To: "youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com" <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 3:37:56 AM
Subject: [YP_Ke] AIDS Day: Very heart breaking pictures/Stories!

Today was AIDS Day! The news,stories,and the pictures moved me into tears. To see children taking care of other children because their parents were affected with the scourge, was just too painful. How I wish I was? ? ? ? a millionaire for I would have done something to help the orphans,victims of the disease.

Stories of those whose lives have been destroyed by the disease, were heart breaking indeed! People have lived with the disease one day at a time but with the knowledge that they will go any time soon!

Have we learned any lessons yet? Do we have all the information on AIDS and HIV? Are we careful with our life styles? I am afraid not! Some of us act as if life is normal.AIDS doesn't scare anyone any more. The only time that we cry,regret, and wish that we had done things differently, is when we test positive. By then,its for ever too late.

Some of us need to slow down;No,we need to change our lifestyle for ever.Let us know for a fact that AIDS lives with us. Anyone can be 
a carrier. Do everything possible to live a clean life. If not,one day you will be in tears;then, you will be struggling alone.

Let us pray for one another and stop playing around with the borrowed lives. Shall we?

Pr Birai
612-386-4608
www.pastorbirai.com




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VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

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1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

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From geofleva at gmail.com  Wed Dec  2 02:12:53 2009
From: geofleva at gmail.com (George Njuguna)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 10:12:53 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] INQUIRY
Message-ID: <98655d4a0912012312v79b632c5l6716ec444a3416e7@mail.gmail.com>

       Is there anyone in this forum who is in the pharmaceutical
industry or imports pharmacetical drugs in to the country. I am in
need of a particular medicine of which i can not seem to find here in
Kenya. Anyone who can assist please contact me offline or call me and
i will provide details.

Regards
George
+254 723 818497

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VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/


From gachanjajamu at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  2 02:01:06 2009
From: gachanjajamu at yahoo.com (james murithi)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 23:01:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: Online Data Entry and Article Writing
In-Reply-To: <840efe53-cd5f-46ee-92a1-c73efd95028b@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
References: <e04ade740912011104t73f11e95r2dcc84e81f76dd4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<840efe53-cd5f-46ee-92a1-c73efd95028b@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <215245.13428.qm@web35808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Kindly,  follow the link and register
http://www.sfi4.com/10873969/FREE
kind regards




________________________________
From: mac <macmwa at gmail.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 7:43:56 AM
Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: Online Data Entry and Article Writing

Go to www.odesk.com
wish you all the best.

On Dec 1, 10:04 pm, cate kerubo <ker... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Young Professionals, is there anyone out there
> with an idea on how i can get to do these jobs on
> online data entry and article writing?
> Please get to me, any sites please?
> Thanks in advance

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1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
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1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

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From abierocarole at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  2 02:30:35 2009
From: abierocarole at yahoo.com (ABBY OTIENO)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 23:30:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] ACCOMMODATION IN DAR
Message-ID: <695116.78202.qm@web111909.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi YP

Would like to travel to Dar and looking for accommodation, anyone with an idea of the hotel rates? am ready to spend like 60-100$ per nite. Please?forward for?me the hotel telephone numbers so i can contact them.

Your help will be appreciated.

Abby



      

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VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
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GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
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From brotherbonny at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  2 02:59:39 2009
From: brotherbonny at yahoo.com (Bonny Opondo)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 23:59:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Querries on the Bible
In-Reply-To: <139855.71417.qm@web62106.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <595133.2199.qm@web65412.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

This? is? agood? ?question .There ? is? the? science? of? ?inerpreting? ?the? Bible? called? Hermeneutics ? which? ?has? ?rules???? to? be? followed.It? ?says? scripture? should? interpret? scripture.secondly where? the? Bible? is? silent? you? also? remain? silent? Based? on? deutronomy 29:29.The? Bible? is? the? only? book? that? gives? the? Creation? aspecial? Revelation? about? God? after? the? Incarnation.For? more? information? contact? your? nearby? Spiritual? director? or? See? Munroe Myles.

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschurch at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschurch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Querries on the Bible
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 10:01 PM







Chemurwok,
?
You are doing the right thing. Just read the Bible in these areas. And please take a very big note of the first five books, that is Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. Those books and espeacially Leviticus spells out the Rules of engagement for the "Children of Israel" (These are the Hebrews) 
?
Note that I have put them children, in bold and italic. 
?
I did this in order to clear a confusion that seems to?arise in, as to who is who? Now the Children of Israel must not be confused with JEWS.? The Children of Israel are descendants of one Jacob son of Isaak. Jews on the other hand are descended from Ashkenaz. This is because most Jews in the present State of Israel refer to themselves as Ashkenaz Jews. Others are Shepheardin Jews who are descended from one Esau (Edom) as is revealed in the Book. And the Book also commands you never ever to add or subtract from it.
?
I will leave it for you there, to dig deeper, for it is not for me to reveal to you what is written in the Holy Book. Just read for yourself and see. The truth shall set you free. On this, not even Pastor Birai or the Pope himself can shed good light to you. The book reveals it all. It will shock you. Infact you might end up discovering where the "Lost tribe of Israel" are.
Over to the?Holy Book.
?
K'Onyiego


--- On Tue, 12/1/09, sagongonyi chemurwok <chemurwok at gmail.com> wrote:


From: sagongonyi chemurwok <chemurwok at gmail.com>
Subject: [YP_Ke] Querries on the Bible
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 6:30 AM


This message is for Pastor Abirai and those who profess christianity. I have been reading the bible from Genesis and i am now in Leviticus. My questions:

1. After God created Adam and Eve and chased them from the garden of Eden, they had children in the names of Cain and Abel. Cain married and moved to Nod. Whom did Cain marry? did he marry his sister? how come we are not told that Adam had other children after Cain and Abel before Cain married? it was after Cain married that Seth was born to Adam and Eve. So, whom did this Cain marry? Adam and Eve were the only human beings on earth before Cain and abel.

2. The bible zeroes in on Israel from the beginning. When you check the names being mentioned in the bible like Noah, Cain, Abel, Seth, etc they are all Jewish names. Are we wrong if we say Genesis talks about creation in reference to the Jews?

3. Exodus talks about the movement of the Jews from Egypt to the promised land. Leviticus talks about the way of life of the Jews ie the DOs and the DON'Ts. Where do we come in here? If you follow Exodus properly, you hear God talk of my people. I was even shocked when i came accross a verse where Moses is trying to advise God. Is that possible? when did God choose the Jews to represent mankind? 

My take is that the bible describes the history of the Jews and not mankind. I will continue reading this book? and pose more querries to you. 

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VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
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?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
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Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

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From alignaw at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  2 04:31:37 2009
From: alignaw at yahoo.com (Philip Wangila)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 01:31:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] A case of Robbery among Touts: (KAN 109K)
Message-ID: <985932.58136.qm@web58706.mail.re1.yahoo.com>


I write this with profound disappointment of all disgruntled matatu crew who will shout out at the top of their voices to let you know the fare to town or the estate of residence is for example 50/=.? Once you have boarded their vehicle half-way through the journey, they change the charges and start charging 70/- or even 80/-. If you dont pay, they will insist that you alight but not after parting with your cash may be 50% to 60%. 
Thika Road users be wary of matatu Reg. KAN 109K whose makanga is fond of this behavior. Entreprenuership is fine but morality has to prevail. This case scenario depicts a case of robbery with violence and should be discouraged. We are rational consumers who plan and budget for our income and rather not impulsive spenders.

Have a watchful day from these robbers!!! Wont you?

Concerned commuter



      

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VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
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From bernardogee at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  2 04:55:11 2009
From: bernardogee at yahoo.com (Bernard Gachagoh)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 01:55:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: yp singles-wonna join? Brooklyn wewe ni
	member?
In-Reply-To: <02b70a36-60e7-4a91-84d0-2b21908ce9ac@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <68430.64542.qm@web46202.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

yeah mi ni member am all ears on the singles klub holla people and I really need some help on my poems I write but dont know what to do with em sumbody holler you will love em

--- On Wed, 12/2/09, Brooklyn <neemoh21 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Brooklyn <neemoh21 at gmail.com>
Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: yp singles-wonna join? Brooklyn wewe ni member?
To: "youngprofessionals_ke" <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 8:35 AM

Madam Catherine si umeniuliza vizuri.


MIMI NI MEMBER. llE NIKO NDANI KABISA.

Frankly this is they way forward. I know this because i remember once
when i was in school, we had forums and clubs to discuss issues about
dating, relationships sex and many others face to face in an open
mind. We shared our opinions and even had guest speakers to help us in
matters pertaining to the heart. We went as broad as talking about
inter sexuality, homosexuality, like everything. It was fun,
empowering, inspiring and educative. All that was accompanied by
religious teachings. Do you know how the influence you gain from your
family affects your dating habits...i mean that whole shabang'? We
need a club like this and I'm for it.

If you are going to join,please come in with an open mind and NOT a
know-it-all attitude. There is so much to learn apart from coming to
meet a potential Miss or Mister.

With that why not all you YP SINGLES join this group. It's for your
own betterment.

Mimi ni member.

Brooklyn.

On Dec 2, 8:48?am, catherine njiiri <mwaracn... at yahoo.com> wrote:
> ?
> Hi guys, wonna join me??
> ?
> How about starting our own "singles club" but with a Godly twist. To this extent, Pastor Abirai's advise?is highly recommended. We need people who can encourage us that marriages do work cuz we intend to go that way later in life.
> ?
> Brooklyn wewe ni member?
> ?
> Kindly give your ideas and views on how we can go about it.? endorse basi kama wewe ni member.
>
> Catherine ?ni member
> ?
> Regards,
> Catherine
> ?

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Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
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Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
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From prcanb at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  2 06:49:57 2009
From: prcanb at yahoo.com (Absalom Birai)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 03:49:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Querries on the Bible
Message-ID: <272418.42396.qm@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

@Sagongonyi

As others have said,you are doing the right thing and may the good Lord bless you abundantly in your search. Yes,we'll try to share with you that which we learned but the right source is Jesus Christ. In the book of James 1:5,the Bible reads,"f any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. So as you continue with your search,you will need 2 things: Spend more time praying for wisdom and understanding and have faith in the living God.

Please note the following:

1.Can we understand everything in the Bible? Deuteronomy 29:29 tells us that there are secrets that belongs to God alone. Like you,I struggled for many years to read the Bible. Even after many years,there are certain things that I still don't understand.

2.Before searching for outside help,just keep on reading while jotting down some questions. As you do that,some questions will be answered along the way.So continue with the primary source. If all of us start giving you some interpretations, its possible that we will confuse you and in the process you will be discouraged.

3.If possible,go through the entire Bible twice.

My prayers are with you. I will check with you from time to time;may be outside the forum to avoid annoying others.

Blessings.

Pr Birai   

--- On Wed, 12/2/09, sagongonyi chemurwok <chemurwok at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: sagongonyi chemurwok <chemurwok at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Querries on the Bible
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 12:33 AM
> Bonny, i do not have a spiritual director. I
> am trying to read by
> myself since i have not read the book since i was
> introduced in school.
> I will visit Munroe's site to see what he has as you
> have advised.
> Another querry, did creation happen in present day Israel?
> it appears
> everything revolves around this region, especially when you
> factor in
> the names.
> 
> On 12/2/09, Bonny Opondo <brotherbonny at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> This?
> is? agood? ?question .There ? is? the?
> science? of? ?inerpreting? ?the?
> Bible? called? Hermeneutics ? which?
> ?has? ?rules???? to? be?
> followed.It? ?says? scripture? should?
> interpret? scripture.secondly where? the? Bible?
> is? silent? you? also? remain? silent?
> Based? on? deutronomy 29:29.The? Bible? is?
> the? only? book? that? gives? the?
> Creation? aspecial? Revelation? about? God?
> after? the? Incarnation.For? more?
> information? contact? your? nearby? Spiritual?
> director? or? See? Munroe Myles.
> 
> --- On Tue,
>? 12/1/09, Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschurch at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschurch at yahoo.com>
> 
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Querries on the Bible
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> 
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 10:01 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Chemurwok,
> ?
> You are doing the right thing. Just read the Bible in
> these areas.
> And please take a very big note of the first five books,
> that is
> Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. Those
> books and
> espeacially Leviticus spells out the Rules of engagement
> for the "Children of Israel" (These
> are the Hebrews) 
> ?
> Note that I have put them children, in
> bold and italic. 
> ?
> I did this in order to clear a confusion that seems
> to?arise
> in, as to who is who? Now the Children of Israel must not
> be confused
> with JEWS.? The Children of Israel are
> descendants of one Jacob son of Isaak.
> Jews on the other hand are descended from Ashkenaz. This is
> because
> most Jews in the present State of Israel refer to
> themselves as
> Ashkenaz Jews. Others are Shepheardin Jews who are
> descended from one
> Esau (Edom) as is revealed in the Book. And the Book also
> commands you
> never ever to add or subtract from it.
> ?
> I will leave it for you there, to dig deeper, for it
> is not for me
> to reveal to you what is written in the Holy Book. Just
> read for
> yourself and see. The truth shall set you free. On this,
> not even
> Pastor Birai or the Pope himself can shed good light to
> you. The book
> reveals it all. It will shock you. Infact you might end up
> discovering
> where the "Lost tribe of Israel" are.
> Over to the?Holy Book.
> ?
> K'Onyiego
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 12/1/09, sagongonyi chemurwok <chemurwok at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> From: sagongonyi chemurwok <chemurwok at gmail.com>
> 
> Subject: [YP_Ke] Querries on the Bible
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 6:30 AM
> 
> 
> 
> This message is for Pastor Abirai and those who
> profess
> christianity. I have been reading the bible from Genesis
> and i am now
> in Leviticus. My questions:
> 
> 1. After God created Adam and Eve
> and chased them from the garden of Eden, they had children
> in the names
> of Cain and Abel. Cain married and moved to Nod. Whom did
> Cain marry?
> did he marry his sister? how come we are not told that Adam
> had other
> children after Cain and Abel before Cain married? it was
> after Cain
> married that Seth was born to Adam and Eve. So, whom did
> this Cain
> marry? Adam and Eve were the only human beings on earth
> before Cain and
> abel.
> 
> 2. The bible zeroes in on Israel from the beginning. When
> you check the names being mentioned in the bible like Noah,
> Cain, Abel,
> Seth, etc they are all Jewish names. Are we wrong if we say
> Genesis
> talks about creation in reference to the Jews?
> 
> 3. Exodus talks
> about the movement of the Jews from Egypt to the promised
> land.
> Leviticus talks about the way of life of the Jews ie the
> DOs and the
> DON'Ts. Where do we come in here? If you follow Exodus
> properly, you
> hear God talk of my people. I was even shocked when i came
> accross a
> verse where Moses is trying to advise God. Is that
> possible? when did
> God choose the Jews to represent mankind? 
> 
> My
> take is that the bible describes the history of the Jews
> and not
> mankind. I will continue reading this book? and pose more
> querries
> to you. 
> 
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> 
> TOPIC:
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> Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau
> Politics.
> ?
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> 
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> 
> 
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> -- 
> 1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
> ?
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice &
> Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
> 
> TOPIC:
> The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure
> Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau
> Politics.
> ?
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
> 
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards
> >>>> 
> ?
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
> 
> 254 721 663 208. 
> ?
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks
> & part
>? to go Palmhouse 
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
> 
> 
> 
> 
>? ? ???
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
> 
> ?
> 
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
> 
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
> 
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
> 
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice &
> Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
> 
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To
> Ensure Kenyans
> Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau
> Politics.
> 
> ?
> 
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
> 
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
> 
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
> 
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
> 
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
> 
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
> 
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards
> >>>> 
> 
> ?
> 
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
> 
> 
> 254 721 663 208. 
> 
> ?
> 
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks
> & part to go Palmhouse 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA
> NIGHT
> 
> ?
> 
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
> 
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
> 
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
> 
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice &
> Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
> 
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To
> Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also
> Talk On the Mau Politics.
> 
> ?
> 
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
> 
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
> 
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
> 
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
> 
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
> 
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
> 
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards
> >>>> 
> 
> ?
> 
> Register NOW by sending an email to
> youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
> 
> 254 721 663 208. 
> 
> ?
> 
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VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
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From kenne_za at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Dec  2 07:16:54 2009
From: kenne_za at yahoo.co.uk (kenneth karware)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:16:54 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] ADVICE ON CAR INSUARANCE
In-Reply-To: <82dec6650912012058l4e75c93dxca8729f06fe7fb49@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <922863.94691.qm@web24005.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Hello,
?
I recently imported a car from japan, but when i took it for valuation so that i can insure it
?
it was valued more than i bought it my like 100,000. I have a feeling the isuarance guys
?
want me to just pay them higher premiums. Is it ok i insure for the sum that i bought
?
the car. What are the implications of this

--- On Wed, 2/12/09, Moderator YP_Ke <youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Moderator YP_Ke <youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re : am from DRC KINSHASA
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 7:58


That reminds of another interaction i had with a French & and English expatriate.
We were to move from point A to point? B, but due to vehicle constraints & we were many we had to share the available vehicles. So the french wanted to ask whether there is a space in our vehicle for him to get a ride, and i guess from french to english that came to "Do you have a room in your vehicle?"

And the Englishman was slow to understand what he meant so he retorted. "A room in my car?*!" He was wondering where on earth does cars have a built-in rooms

-- 
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YP_Ke Group Moderator


On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Gichuru <johngichuru2004 at gmail.com> wrote:


K'Onyiego,
I read your and Mbila's post with a smile. I have come back from Kinshasa and I discovered that those who attempted to speak to me in English used that expression, "what is your problem?" quite a lot. Luckily I speak French and I know it is a direct translation from French, and that they do not mean to be rude. 
?
This is similar to that incident?with that contenstant from Rwanda in TPF3, who after getting a piece of Ian's mind replied, "it doesnt matter". He was not meaning to be rude, he only translated a French expression directly to English. So Peterson should relax and actually go ahead and contact Mbila for the assistance. In short, Mbila simply means, "how can I?be of help?"





On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschurch at yahoo.com> wrote:






Most interesting. You get what you ask for. And right here Peterson asked for a Person from DRC, and sure he got one Mbila Wabenya who can "speack Very well french". Perteson, What is your problem? Olobaki nini? Mbongo? Ozamona!
?
You better hook up with Mbeya very fast.
Tokomonana.
?
K'Onyiego???

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Mbila Wabenya <mbilawabenya at yahoo.fr> wrote:


From: Mbila Wabenya <mbilawabenya at yahoo.fr>
Subject: [YP_Ke] Re : am from DRC KINSHASA
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 3:16 AM 







-





De : Sir Peterson <sirpetersonjr at gmail.com>
? : youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Envoy? le : Mar 1 D?cembre 2009, 14 h 12 min 37 s
Objet?: [YP_Ke] RE: Are you from DRC, Zambia or Zimbabwe.
? 
I CAN FROM KINSHASA IN DRC AND I HAVE MARIED BUT I HAVE 4 CHILDREN 
I SPEACK VERRY WELL FRENCH.
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?

Dear Young Professionals,
Am from Nairobi, Kenya and am looking for someone from either Kinsasha in the DRC, Lusaka Zambia or Harare Zimbabwe. If you are from any of these countries, kindly contact me ASAP through email: kipcopi at gmail.com 
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?
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TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
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Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
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?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
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?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
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-- 
Gichuru




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VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
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?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
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VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
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From amenya.gibson at gmail.com  Wed Dec  2 07:18:35 2009
From: amenya.gibson at gmail.com (amenya gibson)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 15:18:35 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Is society unjust to mankind or mankind is unjust
	to the society?
Message-ID: <54e76b740912020418x1d3a18fwc987bc9adb9b8e4f@mail.gmail.com>

YPs

Every day when our beloved sun rises from East and settles to West we
all carry out our duties without asking what if one day this sun may
opt to rise from North and sun set in South?
God takes care of mankind and the society

>From such natural condition all of us assume all is well business as usual.

As we carry out our duties and responsibilities we all do it in a
society like Kenya
We are all Kenyans and we all make up a Kenyan society.
But when we look at what keeps happening am left wondering if the
society we leave in is kind to mankind or is the man unkind to the
society.

Am saying this due to recently attacks that happened in Kitengela last evening .
Kitengela has always been a safe place to be now is becoming risky.
If you leave town past 9pm be worried of getting mugged .

Is a call for all we deliberate on how we can make Kenyans society be
kind to Kenyans
Bye
-- 
Thanks
Gibson Amenya
Enigma Consultants Kenya Limited
Email: gibson.amenya at enigma.or.ke
Email:info at enigma.or.ke
For Audit,Taxation and Training Services

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1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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From esther at ho.kingswaytyres.com  Wed Dec  2 08:12:32 2009
From: esther at ho.kingswaytyres.com (esther at ho.kingswaytyres.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 16:12:32 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Mpesa Dukas with no floats! -Business
	opportunity awaits u
In-Reply-To: <a1811990912020048k5424488fs5224b2a3dab8c815@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAf7FmxxWYd0+g6lBQobXGQsKAAAAQAAAAcbsbOZpVY0azmkcVDRDCcwEAAAAA@ho.kingswaytyres.com>

 

 

Thanks Mr.Gichuru,

I believe she is not the only one who was in the dark for I hve got
something worthy from your kind explanation.

Very well explained and to the point. 

  _____  

From: Gichuru [mailto:johngichuru2004 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:49 AM
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Mpesa Dukas with no floats! -Business opportunity
awaits u

 

Tigress,

Sorry about your predicament. 

"Float" is the virtual funds that are loaded into the mpesa phone (or simply
the balance in the phone). At the start of the business, say for example you
invest 100k, the whole or part of this will be loaded into your phone and it
will be your starting capital. So at the start, you will have say 50k as
virtual (what they call float) funds, and 50k as cash in the cash box
(physical cash).

 

If a customer comes to deposit money, he will give you 10k to deposit for
him. That means, you will take his 10k cash, and transfer your virtual 10k
from your mpesa phone to his phone. That means you will have 40k as float,
and 60k as cash in the box (to total the initial capital of 100k). If 4
other customers come and deposit 10k each, that will mean you will transfer
the balance of 40k you had in your phone to the 4 customers and you will
have 0 balance in the phone. At this point, you do not have the virtual
funds (balance in the phone) since you have transferred all of it to the 5
customers, but you have 100k as cash in the box. This is when you say you do
not have "float".

 

On the other hand, if the reverse happens and the 5 customers above came and
withdrew, instead of depositing, it will mean you will have 100k as float in
the phone and zero in the cash box. At this point, you say you do not have
cash but have "float" (of 100k)

 

This problem of not having float normally happens at the end of the month
when everyone is liquid and so most of the people will be depositing, rather
than withdrawing, thus exhausting the money in the mpesa agent's phone.

 

I hope this explanation helps.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Tigeress <lizamwayi at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi people, 

 

I have been to so many Mpesa dukas with no "floats".. 

 

 I know I am exposing my ignorance here but what is this business of
"floats" (and not "sinks"?? )that you cant deposit money? 

 

The most notorious ones are the ones at the Junction.... Nakumatt and the
Phone X-press Shop...  it goes on for days! despite complains.

 

And they happily announce this to everyone"I dont have a float", like they
are so glad not to be of service to you

 

Anybody with a business mind, please open an M-pesa at the Shell next to the
Junction! 

or Pesa-Point should come up with a way of accepting deposits.... 

 

Frustrated being..

 

 

-- 
1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
 
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm - 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
 
Registration of Attendants - 6:00pm - 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 - 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 - 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 - 6: 25 
Talk - The Draft Constitution : 6:35 - 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 - 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
 
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke
<http://youngprofessionals.ke/> @gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> , or call 
254 721 663 208. 
 
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/




-- 
Gichuru

-- 
1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
 
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm - 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
 
Registration of Attendants - 6:00pm - 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 - 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 - 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 - 6: 25 
Talk - The Draft Constitution : 6:35 - 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 - 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
 
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call

254 721 663 208. 
 
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/

-- 
1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From cmkadvocates at iconnect.co.ke  Wed Dec  2 08:21:27 2009
From: cmkadvocates at iconnect.co.ke (Christine Kipsang&Co. Advocates)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 16:21:27 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] ACCOMMODATION IN DAR
References: <695116.78202.qm@web111909.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003101ca7352$5a6bb0c0$96a916d4@chale903bab578>

Kindly try Movenpick hotel.............i advise you that you check cotnacts online.
Tina
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ABBY OTIENO 
  To: YP-KE 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:30 AM
  Subject: [YP_Ke] ACCOMMODATION IN DAR


  Hi YP

  Would like to travel to Dar and looking for accommodation, anyone with an idea of the hotel rates? am ready to spend like 60-100$ per nite. Please forward for me the hotel telephone numbers so i can contact them.

  Your help will be appreciated.

  Abby




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  1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
   
  VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
  DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
  TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
  GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
  TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
   
  Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
  Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
  Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
  Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
  Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
  Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
  Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
   
  Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
  254 721 663 208. 
   
  Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
  Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/

-- 
1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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From opondobwar at gmail.com  Wed Dec  2 08:29:06 2009
From: opondobwar at gmail.com (Martin Opondo Obwar)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 16:29:06 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] A case of Robbery among Touts: (KAN 109K)
In-Reply-To: <985932.58136.qm@web58706.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <985932.58136.qm@web58706.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <a8400a820912020529h79ce649fpff5983ab9e83309@mail.gmail.com>

I recently saw this happen i just did not take the number plate of the
matatu. it was aproaching 4 then the makanga not theone who was in the mat
was shouting Githurai 50    then sone students entered i did enter and i was
going to Kasarani so i paid 50/= i did not have issue with that but the
student also paid 50 then he said no you must add 50/= is kasarani the
student refused and we were at the round about near Nairobi river so he
insisted that the guy from uni ashuke if not he returns 20/= to cut the long
storo short other passengers had to come to the rescue of this student.

Matatu za nairobi! eh?

martin

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Philip Wangila <alignaw at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> I write this with profound disappointment of all disgruntled matatu crew
> who will shout out at the top of their voices to let you know the fare to
> town or the estate of residence is for example 50/=.  Once you have boarded
> their vehicle half-way through the journey, they change the charges and
> start charging 70/- or even 80/-. If you dont pay, they will insist that you
> alight but not after parting with your cash may be 50% to 60%.
> Thika Road users be wary of matatu Reg. KAN 109K whose makanga is fond of
> this behavior. Entreprenuership is fine but morality has to prevail. This
> case scenario depicts a case of robbery with violence and should be
> discouraged. We are rational consumers who plan and budget for our income
> and rather not impulsive spenders.
>
> Have a watchful day from these robbers!!! Wont you?
>
> Concerned commuter
>
>  --
> 1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
> call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
> Palmhouse
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>

-- 
1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From michael.karuu at metrobrokers.com  Wed Dec  2 12:19:46 2009
From: michael.karuu at metrobrokers.com (Michael Karuu)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:19:46 -0500
Subject: [Jambo] FW: MEMORIAL AND FUNDRAISER FOR RHODA MAINA
References: <282064.14172.qm@web39508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E5E9882BEE392A409781228EA0D19FAB0263600F@EXCHANGEVS.cluster.metrobrokers.com>



INVITATION TO A MEMORIAL AND FUNDRAISER FOR RHODA MAINA. 

Dear Friends, 

This letter comes to inform you that Rhoda Maina went to be with the Lord on December 1, 2009. Rhoda was 26 years old, daughter to Ken and Rachel Maina of Dunwoody, GA. She was suffering from autoimmune diseases known as Lupus/Scleroderma which caused her body to attack itself, targeting her digestive system. As per her wishes, her family will be accompanying her to Kenya on December 14, 2009 to lay her to rest. Because of the huge financial requirement, her family is now calling on relatives, friends and people of good will to support them in meeting these expenses. We hereby invite you to an urgent fundraising event to be held at: 

Venue: Christ Harvester's Church Int'l, Marietta , GA 

                (CHMI - Apostle Karanja's Church) 

Address: 4341 Dallas Hwy, Marietta, GA 30064. 

Date:   Sunday, December 06, 2009,                                                          

Time:  2.00 PM. 

(Refreshments will be served) 

Family and friends will be meeting daily at the Maina's home from 6:30pm to 9:00pm. Their address is: 

113 Summer Crossing, Atlanta GA 30350. 

However, there will be a prayer service today December 2, 2009 and Friday December 4, 2009 at Christ Harvester's Church from 6:30pm to 9:00pm. 

If unable to attend, please make your contribution to: 

Ken Maina 

Wachovia Bank, Atlanta GA 

Account number:  1010258758504 

Routing number:     061000227                   

Or donations can be dropped off at anytime at the Maina's home. 

Contacts: 

Michael Karuu (404-395-6906), Leah Kamau (678-576-1416) 

Ciru Mwangi (303-931-8381), Ken Maina (678-862-3140)


 
Regards
 
Michael Karuu
Realtor
Certified Business Brokerage{CBB}
Certified Commercial Brokerage{CCB}
Metrobrokers/Gmac Real Estate
Woodstock,GA 30188.
Office:404 843 2500 
Direct Line 770 698 1159
Fax: 770 924 5206.
www.michaelkaruu.com <http://www.michaelkaruu.com/> 
NEVER EVER GIVE UP

 
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From ktafrica at aol.com  Wed Dec  2 12:39:02 2009
From: ktafrica at aol.com (ktafrica at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:39:02 EST
Subject: [Jambo] Cherokee Legend
Message-ID: <524.337e47fe.38480036@aol.com>

 
 
 
 
 
Cherokee Legend -




 
 
Do you know the legend of the Cherokee Indian youth's rite of Passage?




 
 
 
His father takes him into the forest, blindfolds him, and leaves him alone.




 
 
He is required to sit on a stump the whole night and not remove the 
blindfold until the rays of the morning sunshine through it..

 
 
He cannot cry out for help to anyone.


 
 
 
Once he survives the night, he is a MAN.


 
 
 
He cannot tell the other boys of this experience, because each lad must 
come into manhood on his own...


 
 
 
The boy is naturally terrified..


 
 
 
He can hear all kinds of noises


 
 
 
Wild beasts must surely be all around him.


 
 
 
Maybe even some human might do him harm.


 
 
 
The wind blew the grass and earth, and shook his stump, but he sat 
stoically, never removing the blindfold.


 
 
It would be the only way he could become a man!

 
 
 
Finally, after a horrific night the sun appeared and he removed his 
blindfold.


 
 
 
It was then that he discovered his father sitting on the stump next to him.


 
 
 
He had been at watch the entire night, protecting his son from harm.


 
 
 
We, too, are never alone.


 
 
 
Even when we don't know it, God is watching over us, sitting on the stump 
beside us.


 
 
 
When trouble comes, all we have to do is reach out to Him.


 
 
 
If you liked this story, pass it on..


 
 
 
If not, you took off your blindfold before dawn.


 
 
 





Moral of the story:  
Just because you can't see God,  
doesn't mean He is not there..  
'For we walk by faith, not by sight.' 

Brought to you by: 
"The King of Zamunda"  






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From odundo at jaluo.com  Wed Dec  2 12:45:32 2009
From: odundo at jaluo.com (o j_k)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:45:32 -0500
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Mpesa Dukas with no floats! -Business
	opportunity awaits u
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAf7FmxxWYd0+g6lBQobXGQsKAAAAQAAAAcbsbOZpVY0azmkcVDRDCcwEAAAAA@ho.kingswaytyres.com>
References: <a1811990912020048k5424488fs5224b2a3dab8c815@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <212b9b3b0912020945g3ca95d4ava1984b64c08ca81b@mail.gmail.com>

Most interesting business concept.
Could you also kindly explain how the "float" merchant makes money.

Love you.

Odundo jaKarateng'
http://blog.jaluo.com/ <http://kwach.gogvo.com/>

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:12 AM, <esther at ho.kingswaytyres.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Thanks Mr.Gichuru,
>
> I believe she is not the only one who was in the dark for I hve got
> something worthy from your kind explanation.
>
> Very well explained and to the point.
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Gichuru [mailto:johngichuru2004 at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:49 AM
> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [YP_Ke] Mpesa Dukas with no floats! -Business opportunity
> awaits u
>
>
>
> Tigress,
>
> Sorry about your predicament.
>
> "Float" is the virtual funds that are loaded into the mpesa phone (or
> simply the balance in the phone). At the start of the business, say for
> example you invest 100k, the whole or part of this will be loaded into your
> phone and it will be your starting capital. So at the start, you will have
> say 50k as virtual (what they call float) funds, and 50k as cash in the cash
> box (physical cash).
>
>
>
> If a customer comes to *deposit* money, he will give you 10k to deposit
> for him. That means, you will take his 10k cash, and transfer your virtual
> 10k from your mpesa phone to his phone. That means you will have 40k as
> float, and 60k as cash in the box (to total the initial capital of 100k). If
> 4 other customers come and deposit 10k each, that will mean you will
> transfer the balance of 40k you had in your phone to the 4 customers and you
> will have 0 balance in the phone. At this point, you do not have the virtual
> funds (balance in the phone) since you have transferred all of it to the 5
> customers, but you have 100k as cash in the box. This is when you say you do
> not have "float".
>
>
>
> On the other hand, if the reverse happens and the 5 customers above
> came and *withdrew, *instead of depositing, it will mean you will have
> 100k as float in the phone and zero in the cash box. At this point, you say
> you do not have cash but have "float" (of 100k)
>
>
>
> This problem of not having float normally happens at the end of the month
> when everyone is liquid and so most of the people will be depositing, rather
> than withdrawing, thus exhausting the money in the mpesa agent's phone.
>
>
>
> I hope this explanation helps.
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Tigeress <lizamwayi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi people,
>
>
>
> I have been to so many Mpesa dukas with no "floats"..
>
>
>
>  I know I am exposing my ignorance here but what is this business of
> "floats" (and not "sinks"?? )that you cant deposit money?
>
>
>
> The most notorious ones are the ones at the Junction.... Nakumatt and the
> Phone X-press Shop...  it goes on for days! despite complains.
>
>
>
> And they happily announce this to everyone"I dont have a float", like they
> are so glad not to be of service to you
>
>
>
> Anybody with a business mind, please open an M-pesa at the Shell next to
> the Junction!
>
> or Pesa-Point should come up with a way of accepting deposits....
>
>
>
> Frustrated being..
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> 1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
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> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
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From prcanb at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  2 11:54:14 2009
From: prcanb at yahoo.com (Absalom Birai)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:54:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] This I know!
Message-ID: <264666.996.qm@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I do not and can not claim to know a lot of things in this world. That said,daily interactions with others over the years has made me to make certain conclusions which obviously are debatable. Here is what I claim to know:

1. Partiality or showing favoritism will always be with us. It seems to me that some of us tend to see/view/judge/evaluate others based on not so much on what they are capable of doing, but rather on whether they are family members/relatives,friends, or of my tribe/clan/race.

2.Those things that we flatly condemn as deserving severe punishment when done by those we don't like, some of us go gentle and call for patience/understanding/forgiveness when they touch those that we love.

3.Many of us don't care of helping others until tragedy hits us hard.Then we realize that we need others in our lives.

4.Some of us don't seem to realize the importance of others until we are forced to seek for their help.

5.Those who have taught themselves the proper sequence of priorities-God,family, and others-seem to enjoy life.If you mix those up,you have yourself to blame.

6.The things that my father taught me have stood the test;he taught me to respect others and watch lest others pull me back.

7.I read it in the Gospels;I saw my mum practice it;I took the challenge and have never regretted.What was it? Moved by compassion to assist others.Those who go an extra mile to help others have never been disappointed. If anything,God always pays back at the fullness of time.

8.If the Lord came down today and asked me to ask but one thing, I know what that thing will be? "To be humble like Moses,John, the baptist and the Lord Jesus Himself!" So,help me dear Lord!

Blessings.

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From kipjsang at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  2 18:12:23 2009
From: kipjsang at yahoo.com (sang kip)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 15:12:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
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What are Kadhi courts and for what purpose should they be enshrined in a secular constitution that treats of all religions equal?




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From: abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Cc: jekambi at daystar.ac.ke
Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 12:04:48 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.




Hi Ekambi
Perhaps this article by the Ahmed Isaack Hassan a fomer commissioner with the defunct CKRC and current chairman of the Interim Independent Electoral Commission will give an insight on why the Kadhis courts should be ingrained in the constitution. By the way Muslims are not opposed to any attempt by Christian or other faiths also having what they consider as their laws in the constitution.

Thanks

Abu Ayman


THE KADHI'S COURTS - Setting the Records straight
(By Ahmed Issack Hassan, Commissioner, CKRC)
Introduction: 
The new Draft Constitution published by the Constitution of Kenya Review Commission in October 2002 has generated a lot of debate and discussion as was expected and required under the Law. Among the many Provisions of the Draft Bill that came under scrutiny and analysis was the one dealing with the Kadhis Courts judging by the copious amount of correspondence and arguments for and against that have appeared in the press. This article aims at informing the on-going debate by setting out some of the basic facts about the Kadhis Courts that appear to have been ignored in the debate and analysis.
It is important to approach every issue calmly and objectively and not subjectively, emotionally and with a pre-conceived idea/mind. But much more importantly, it is crucial to get all the facts correct about any issue before jumping to conclusion. It is only then that one can make an informed decision. An objective and honest discussion about the Kadhis Courts must consider their history and present status, the Commission's mandate and what the people said before coming to the stage of analysing the present draft constitution.
Historically, Kadhis Courts existed in the East Coast of Africa long before colonization. In Kenya, they existed in the Coast, which at the time of colonization, was under the Sultan of Zanzibar. In 1895, the Sultan gave the British power to administer the 10 mile coastal strip subject to their respecting the existing Kadhis Courts among other conditions. The British did so and declared a protectorate over the coast while the rest of Kenya was a colony proper. The Sultan however retained sovereignty over the 10 mile coastal strip. During the last years of the independence struggle and at the start of the Lancaster House Constitutional talks in 1961, the status and fate of the coastal strip came up for determination. The British organised separate talks for the delegates from the protectorate of the coast and those from the Kenya Colony. The British Government and Sultan of Zanzibar also appointed a Commissioner, Mr. James R. Robertson, to study the issue
 of the coastal strip, consult all those concerned and report to them. In his report, entitled, "The Kenya Coastal Strip ? Report by the Commissioner", he reported that opinion was divided as to whether the coastal strip should join Kenya, or be declared independent on its own, or reverted back to the Sultan of Zanzibar. He however recommended that it should be joined with Kenya subject to the Kenya Government guaranteeing to respect the existence of the Kadhis Courts among other conditions. The Prime Minister of Kenya, Jomo Kenyatta and the Prime Minister of Zanzibar, Mr. Shamte on behalf of the Sultan of Zanzibar, then signed an agreement in October, 1963, in the form of an exchange of letters whereby the Sultan of Zanzibar relinquished/surrendered his claim of sovereignty over the coast to Kenya in return for mzee Kenyatta guaranteeing the continued existence of the Kadhis Courts among other guarantees. When the independence constitution was
 written, the Kadhis Courts were enshrined under the chapter on Judiciary.
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At Independence, the Kenya Government expressed its sovereign desire not to be bound automatically by all the pre-independence treaties and agreements entered into by the colonial Government. By his note reference EXT. 237/003A of 25th March, 1964, addressed to the Secretary General of the United Nations, mzee Jomo Kenyatta informed the United Nations of the Kenya Government's intention to review all pre-independence treaties and agreements and determine which agreements will be honoured by the Government and those which will be abrogated or modified after appropriate notice to the interested parties. It is important to note that the 1963 agreement between the Kenya Government and the Sultan of Zanzibar concerning the Kenya Coastal Strip and the preservation of the Kadhis Courts was among those agreements that were immediately honoured by the newly independent Kenya Government. This is proved by the fact that the independence constitution of 1963
 enshrined the Kadhis Courts under Chapter 5 in the Judiciary and thereafter Parliament passed the Kadhis Courts Act, the Mohammedan Marriage and Divorce Registration Act and the Mohammedan Marriage, Divorce and Succession Act to make these courts fully operational and functioning. At independence, the Kadhis Court were 3. In 1967, the Kadhis Courts Act was passed which increased the courts to 6. They have subsequently been increased and today they are more than a dozen spread over the country.
The Kadhis Courts were entrenched in the constitution as a measure of safeguarding the integrity of the agreement reached on them. If the courts were established under Ordinary Law by an Act of Parliament alone, then it would have made them vulnerable since any decision to abolish them would have required a simple majority of the members of parliament to repeal the Act. Under the present standing orders of Parliament which sets the quorum of the house at 30, it means that only sixteen (16) Members of Parliament could do so. In contrast, to abolish the courts as enshrined in the constitution would require a two-thirds (2/3) majority in Parliament. As a minority therefore the Muslims in Kenya find great relief and solace in the entrenchment of the Kadhis Courts in the Constitution.
Section 66 of the current constitution provides for the Chief Kadhi and Kadhi's Courts and states their powers as being to decide on issues of Muslim personal law between Muslims i.e marriage, divorce and inheritance.
The Commission's mandate under the Law is to collect, collate and analyse the views of Kenyans on changes to be made to the constitution and to recommend amendments or other changes thereto which faithfully reflects the views and wishes of Kenyans. The commission was to study the judiciary, among other institutions, and seek people's views on how the judiciary could be improved. The Kadhis Courts are part of the judiciary and the legal systems. When the commission issued "issues and questions" for public hearing to guide the people in the collection of the views, the same contained questions on what was to be done to the Chief Kadhi and Kadhis Courts. Many of the people, organizations and experts who gave views on the Kadhis courts did not at all question their existence but advocated for their retention with some improvements or 
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modifications. The Muslims generally asked for the enhancement of the role and status of the courts while in some cases like in N.E. Province, they asked for the full application of Sharia Law in their areas. The team of judicial experts and eminent scholars from the Commonwealth in their report on the judiciary also recommended the retention of the Kadhis Courts in their present form. A group of Human Rights and Legal Organisations such as KHRC, LSK, ICJ, FIDA, etc, also prepared a model constitution under the motto, "Kenya Tuitakayo" (the Kenya we want) and in that model constitution, they also recommended for the retention of the Kadhis Court with their present jurisdiction and for the Chief Kadhi to have minimum academic qualification and to enjoy the same status and privileges as a High Court Judge. 
In recommending improvements to the Kadhis Courts, the commission was faithfully reflecting an analysis of the views it received. It is therefore wrong to suggest that CKRC is favouring Muslims or creating parallel court structure or introducing Sharia Law through the back door. The commission did not receive any views for the creation of courts for Jews, Hindus or others. Sharia Law is not being introduced as the jurisdiction of the Kadhis Courts are clearly confined to matters of personal Law between Muslims. There will be no stoning to death for adultery or cutting of hands even for the Muslims in Kenya as this is covered by Islamic Criminal Law which is not permitted here in Kenya either in the present constitution or under the new draft bill.
The Kadhis Courts do not exist in Kenya alone. Several countries in Africa and the Commonwealth that have a significant population of Muslims provide for these courts in their constitutions and Laws to cater for the regulation of the personal status of their Muslim Citizens. Save for those countries that have established Islamic states which apply Islamic Law throughout the country, other states tend to limit the jurisdiction of these Courts to matters affecting the personal status of the Muslims. In some cases, the jurisdiction is exclusive to the Kadhis Courts while in others the Courts are established as subordinate Courts to the Secular High Courts or Supreme Court. The Kadhis Courts are also called Qadhis Courts (Uganda), Cadi Court (Gambia), Sharia Court (Nigeria), Shariat Court (Pakistan) and Religious Court (Jordan). 
The Nigeria constitution provides for the establishment of the Kadi and Sharia Courts in the states and in the Federation. The Sharia Court of Appeal is to compose of the Grand Kadi and such number of Kadis as may be prescribed by Law. The jurisdiction of the Sharia Courts is listed under Sections 262 and 277 of the Constitution. The qualification for appointment to the office of Grand Kadi or Kadi of the Sharia Court of Appeal is set out by Sections 261 and 266 of the Constitution. Sections 264 and 279 give the grand Kadi, who is equivalent to the Chief Kadhi in Kenya, the Power to make rules for regulating the Practice and Procedure of the Sharia Court.? The major difference between the Kadhis Courts in Nigeria and Kenya is that the former apply full Islamic Sharia law while in Kenya, the jurisdiction is limited to personal law i.e marriage, divorce and inheritance which is the case in Gambia and Uganda.? 
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The Gambian Constitution under Section 137, establishes the Cadi Court to be constituted by the Cadi and two other Scholars qualified to be a Cadi or Ulama. Appeals from this Court goes to a review Court composed of the Cadi and four ulamas (Islamic Scholars). The Cadi Court has jurisdiction to apply Islamic Sharia in matters of marriage, divorce and inheritance where the parties before the Court are Muslims.? The qualification for appointment to the position of Cadi requires a person of high moral standing and professional qualification in Sharia Law.
The Ugandan Constitution establishes the Qadhis Courts under Section 129 as one of the subordinate Courts of judicature exercising judicial power in Uganda to deal with matters of marriage, divorce, inheritance of property and guardianship. 
The argument that the Provisions in the Draft Constitution treat other religions less favourably is clearly without merit. Article 44 of the Draft Bill is a basket clause containing several sections guaranteeing and protecting the freedom of religion for all. The Kadhis Courts, which fall under the Chapter on the Judiciary, could not have been brought under the ambit of article 44 which comes under the Chapter on Human Rights. The Kadhis Courts should be seen in the context of the judiciary and the legal system and not as a religious or Muslim issue alone. Those opposing the Kadhis Courts and making allegation of bias for Muslims are politicising the issue and creating unnecessary tension and disharmony between the Muslims and their Kenyan brothers and sisters. By whipping up emotions of other people who may not have all the facts before them, these people are undermining the goals of the constitutional review process which is inter alia to unite the
 country and to respect and promote the ethnic and religious diversity of the people of Kenya. It is the hope of all those who wish to see the continuation of the peace and harmony that exists between the different religious communities in Kenya that men and women of goodwill in Kenya will see through the propaganda war being waged against the Kadhis Courts and support the recommendations of CKRC which is a faithful reflection and analysis of the views received from the people.
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From: "jekambi at daystar.ac.ke" <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 7:40:40 AM
Subject: Re:Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.

The whole constitution gives rights to all faith, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Traditionists, etc X100, to freely worship in whichever way. All but one has its rights stipulated in the unifying constitution, WHY?

Each of these groupings have own constitutions that help them run their affairs, only should they conflict with the unifying constitution, then troubles begin. No one is saying no to Khadhi courts being in some constitution, all we are skeptical about is why in the main one. The reasoning that the other religions have not asked, in not intellectual and wise. These other religions have their holy books and own written something. But they too have a right to fight for their right. But what is ones right? Let?s be reasonable and sober in this matter. The constitution is not about us, it is about a Kenyan people, the posterity, and the future.

History is always the best focal point of reference. No one is telling us how the Kadhi court came into being, where they came from, and why they were include. No one is telling us on its limits/boundaries. If we can get the original Lancaster manuscript, honestly it will help. But for now, everybody is fighting, it must/it must not. These will not get us moving. Books of authority are there, let?s use them.

The culture of tolerance, to me means, I respect the feelings of all and accommodate all. I must not have my way, I should allow every body equally footing and chance. Lets listen to every body, even children. Give all an opportunity especially the future.

It is not this is our thing, it must be there. NO NOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.


Ekambi

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasmey Aellah <jasmey at gmail.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com;
Sent: Tuesday 12/1/2009 9:16:30 PM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION ...

>Well said Abu, i am a Cristian but still cant help the so called church's
>dim view on Kadhi's court issue. Its every organization's aim to expand,
>whats wrong with islam spreading its wings. Have the radical preachers
>stopped one moment to think and realise that there is one God !! This is
>worse than tribalism! There are Kenyan Muslims and the freedom of worship
>applies to all. Please stop hate campaign
>
>On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> The presentation you are circulating is part of the lies and propaganda
>> peddled by the a section of Christians who are mainly radical evangelists
>> against the Kadhis courts. Just to remind you the so-called communique which
>> is being pointed at is alleged to have been ame in 1989 wheras the Kadhis
>> courts were in existence even before there was a single person in Kenya who
>> adhere to the Christian faith.
>>
>> Secondly, yr presentation is nothing new. Exactly the same information was
>> peddled and circulated during the last referendum to hoodwink Kenyans about
>> the courts. This was accompanied by leaflets distributed in churches showing
>> that? violence will break out if the Kadhi courts are incorporated in the
>> constitution.
>> For generations, the courts were in the Kenyan law books and we never saw
>> any of the so-called Abuja declarations being incorporated nor violence btn
>> Muslims and Christians as a result of the courts.
>>
>> It is high time? that a culture of tolerance was exhibited as contrary to
>> these, we should not listen to such characters who happen to create discord
>> among the different Kenyan communities who have lived in peace and harmony
>> for generations.
>>
>>
>>
>> Abu Ayman
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* jekambi <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
>>
>> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Tue, December 1, 2009 3:25:17 PM
>> *Subject:* [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Brethren,
>>
>> Kindly read the attached PowerPoint presentation and forward it to others.
>> It will go a long way and possibly help to save our country; remember that
>> ?a stitch in time saves nine?.
>>
>>
>>
>> God bless you,
>>
>>
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
>> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
>> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
>> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
>> Minister, Gichugu MP.
>> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
>> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>>
>> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
>> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
>> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
>> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
>> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
>> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
>> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>>
>> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
>> call
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>> 2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
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>> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
>> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
>> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
>> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
>> Minister, Gichugu MP.
>> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
>> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>>
>> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
>> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
>> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
>> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
>> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
>> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
>> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>>
>> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
>> call
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>1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
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>VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
>DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
>TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
>GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
>TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
>Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
>Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
>Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
>Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
>Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
>Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
>Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
>
>Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
>254 721 663 208. 
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GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
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TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
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Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

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From copa at copafrica.org  Thu Dec  3 01:40:05 2009
From: copa at copafrica.org (Coalition For Peace in Africa)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 09:40:05 +0300 (EAT)
Subject: [Jambo] invitation for a peace building practitioners training from
 15th to 25th Feb 2010, Nairobi, Kenya
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Dear Partners,
 
COPA will for the period 15th to 25th February 2010 hold 10 day peace building training in Nairobi for peace and development practitioners from from Sudan, Kenya, Ethiopia and Uganda.
 
The training is ideal for persons wishing to build their skills in different thematic areas related to peace matters. The facilitation will start from basic applications and build up to the mid levels. This training is also ideal for people who may not have gone through some peace building trai nings before and persons who may have attended basic trainings. 

Specific areas of focus will be on:
R      Understanding conflict 
~      Understanding of concepts: conflict, violence, peace and development
~      Perceptions, attitudes and behaviours in relation to conflict
~      Introduction to conflict analysis
R      Conflict Transformation
~      Approaches to conflict management
~      Communication skills
~      Conflict Early warning 
~      Facilitating dialogue, mediation, negotiation and arbitration
~      Trauma healing in post conflict societies
R      Building Sustainable peace
~      Conflict sensitive approaches to development
~      Networking, coalitions and alliances
~      Advocacy, Lobbying and Campaigning
~      Monitoring, Evaluation, Reporting and Learning
 
Training charges are US$900 for tuition to cover the whole duration. Full board accommodation will be charged at US$ 80 per day. Kindly pass on this information to colleagues or partners who might be interested in attending the training.

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Martha Ndogoto
Programme Officer
Coalition for Peace in Africa (COPA)
Dhanjay Apartments, Valley Arcade,Rm 301
Lavington
Po Box 61753- 00200
Tel:+254-2-3870845
Tel/Fax:+254-2-3866686
Nairobi, Kenya
East Africa
Mobile: 254-723- 688851
Email: copa at copafrica.org/martha at copafrica.org



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From jameskinyua80 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 00:44:27 2009
From: jameskinyua80 at gmail.com (james kinyua)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 08:44:27 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] MARBLE ARCH HOTEL.
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HI Hourable members.
  kindly give direction to the said hotel for anyone willing to attend
today`s fuction.
let us not assume  everybody knows the venue.


regards
Hon. kinyua

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From imo4492 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 00:25:02 2009
From: imo4492 at gmail.com (Ogendi)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 14:55:02 +0930
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: [KOL] Fwd: Sad News !!Attention
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-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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From nirish at chigwell.co.ke  Thu Dec  3 01:30:21 2009
From: nirish at chigwell.co.ke (Nirish Shah)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 09:30:21 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] ADVICE ON CAR INSUARANCE
In-Reply-To: <922863.94691.qm@web24005.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <922863.94691.qm@web24005.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <798CC74C0E404E41A38CCF64EFA77475@chigwell.co.ke>

Hi Kenneth,

I'd advice you to get an AA valuation done and then insure your car on that value. If you underinsure, many insurance companies have clauses and fine prints that may allow them to repuidate the claim in case of an accident. Also in the best case scenario, they only pay on a pro-rata basis and even ask you to top-up the premiums. So finally the claim that you get would be substantially lower.

While getting insurance, also look at the excess & exclusions clauses. If you know a good insurance agent, he would be able to guide you better.

Bottomline, I'd strongly advice you NOT to underinsure and obtain an AA valuation and present it to the insurance co., to avoid problems in the future.

Hope that was helpful.

Regards,
Nirish
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: kenneth karware 
  To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:16 PM
  Subject: [YP_Ke] ADVICE ON CAR INSUARANCE


        Hello,

        I recently imported a car from japan, but when i took it for valuation so that i can insure it

        it was valued more than i bought it my like 100,000. I have a feeling the isuarance guys

        want me to just pay them higher premiums. Is it ok i insure for the sum that i bought

        the car. What are the implications of this

        --- On Wed, 2/12/09, Moderator YP_Ke <youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com> wrote:


          From: Moderator YP_Ke <youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com>
          Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re : am from DRC KINSHASA
          To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
          Date: Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 7:58


          That reminds of another interaction i had with a French & and English expatriate.
          We were to move from point A to point  B, but due to vehicle constraints & we were many we had to share the available vehicles. So the french wanted to ask whether there is a space in our vehicle for him to get a ride, and i guess from french to english that came to "Do you have a room in your vehicle?"

          And the Englishman was slow to understand what he meant so he retorted. "A room in my car?*!" He was wondering where on earth does cars have a built-in rooms

          -- 
          Regards
          YP_Ke Group Moderator


          On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Gichuru <johngichuru2004 at gmail.com> wrote:

            K'Onyiego,
            I read your and Mbila's post with a smile. I have come back from Kinshasa and I discovered that those who attempted to speak to me in English used that expression, "what is your problem?" quite a lot. Luckily I speak French and I know it is a direct translation from French, and that they do not mean to be rude. 

            This is similar to that incident with that contenstant from Rwanda in TPF3, who after getting a piece of Ian's mind replied, "it doesnt matter". He was not meaning to be rude, he only translated a French expression directly to English. So Peterson should relax and actually go ahead and contact Mbila for the assistance. In short, Mbila simply means, "how can I be of help?"


            On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschurch at yahoo.com> wrote:

                    Most interesting. You get what you ask for. And right here Peterson asked for a Person from DRC, and sure he got one Mbila Wabenya who can "speack Very well french". Perteson, What is your problem? Olobaki nini? Mbongo? Ozamona!

                    You better hook up with Mbeya very fast.
                    Tokomonana.

                    K'Onyiego   

                    --- On Tue, 12/1/09, Mbila Wabenya <mbilawabenya at yahoo.fr> wrote:


                      From: Mbila Wabenya <mbilawabenya at yahoo.fr>
                      Subject: [YP_Ke] Re : am from DRC KINSHASA
                      To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
                      Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 3:16 AM 



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                      De : Sir Peterson <sirpetersonjr at gmail.com>
                      ? : youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
                      Envoy? le : Mar 1 D?cembre 2009, 14 h 12 min 37 s
                      Objet : [YP_Ke] RE: Are you from DRC, Zambia or Zimbabwe.
                        
                      I CAN FROM KINSHASA IN DRC AND I HAVE MARIED BUT I HAVE 4 CHILDREN 
                      I SPEACK VERRY WELL FRENCH.
                      WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?

                      Dear Young Professionals,
                      Am from Nairobi, Kenya and am looking for someone from either Kinsasha in the DRC, Lusaka Zambia or Harare Zimbabwe. If you are from any of these countries, kindly contact me ASAP through email: kipcopi at gmail.com 
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                      2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
                       
                      VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
                      DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
                      TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
                      GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
                      TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
                       
                      Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
                      Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
                      Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
                      Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
                      Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
                      Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
                      Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
                       
                      Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
                      254 721 663 208. 
                       
                      Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
                      Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/



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                      2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
                       
                      VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
                      DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
                      TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
                      GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
                      TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
                       
                      Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
                      Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
                      Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
                      Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
                      Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
                      Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
                      Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
                       
                      Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
                      254 721 663 208. 
                       
                      Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
                      Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
                   


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              VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
              DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
              TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
              GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
              TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
               
              Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
              Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
              Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
              Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
              Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
              Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
              Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
               
              Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
              254 721 663 208. 
               
              Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
              Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/





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            Gichuru 


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            1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
             
            VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
            DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
            TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
            GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
            TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
             
            Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
            Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
            Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
            Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
            Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
            Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
            Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
             
            Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
            254 721 663 208. 
             
            Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
            Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/







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          1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
           
          VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
          DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
          TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
          GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
          TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
           
          Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
          Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
          Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
          Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
          Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
          Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
          Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
           
          Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
          254 721 663 208. 
           
          Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
          Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
       



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  1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
   
  VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
  DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
  TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
  GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
  TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
   
  Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
  Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
  Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
  Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
  Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
  Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
  Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
   
  Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
  254 721 663 208. 
   
  Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
  Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/

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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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From cmkadvocates at iconnect.co.ke  Thu Dec  3 01:52:16 2009
From: cmkadvocates at iconnect.co.ke (Christine Kipsang&Co. Advocates)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 09:52:16 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Registration Of A Company
References: <14ecfaab0912021944j724e8d55i97efc3d926e0701a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01aa01ca73e5$26f1b440$96a916d4@chale903bab578>

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christine
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: billy oluoch 
  To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:44 AM
  Subject: [YP_Ke] Registration Of A Company


  Good Day All

  I need to register a LTD company max 2 weeks.

  Kindly call me ASAP or send me mail with contacts we start immediately.

  Payments are upfront 50% deposit and 50% once the certificate is out.

  Regards

  -- 
  billy otieno oluoch
  +254 726 321655


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  FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
   
  VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
  DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
  TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
  GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
  TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
   
  Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
  Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
  Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
  Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
  Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
  Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
  Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
   
  Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
  254 721 663 208. 
   
  Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
  Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/

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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From eddommiex at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  3 01:05:16 2009
From: eddommiex at yahoo.com (DOMMIE.M.N)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 22:05:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: LYP Coast First meeting details: Confirm
	attendnce
In-Reply-To: <f7e2221a0912022155p15d67d20i25ba46b271f4df6b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <728199.78099.qm@web112104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hello YP's,
Attendance confirmation.Nitahudhuria hafla hii.


Imports/Exports Customs Agents
DOMMIE.M.NTURIBI???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
JAYSEA FREIGHT MOVERS LTD
Email:xdommie at yahoo.co.uk,dommie at jayseafreight.co.ke,
MOMBASA,KENYA??...for a service with a difference

--- On Wed, 12/2/09, Mark Kiyaka <mkiyaka at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Mark Kiyaka <mkiyaka at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: LYP Coast First meeting details: Confirm attendnce
To: "josephine Ndambuki" <josekamanthe at gmail.com>, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com, jackiekoi at yahoo.com
Cc: osireotieno at gmail.com, eddommiex at yahoo.com, brykarp2000 at yahoo.co.uk, ladyn283 at yahoo.com, ndiritujg at yahoo.com, Peter.Mtana at ke.spedag.com, timothy_mungoma at yahoo.com, cmogere at yahoo.com, jameskinyua80 at gmail.com, andungu at armkenya.com, "milton" <milton at armkenya.com>, jeffrey at armkenya.com
Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 9:55 PM





On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Mark Kiyaka <mkiyaka at gmail.com> wrote:

Will attend: Mark Kiyaka





On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:21 AM, josephine Ndambuki <josekamanthe at gmail.com> wrote:




Good Morning YP coast members,
Thanks for standing up to be counted as part of the?Young?professional's family in Mombasa. I am indeed pleased to have a group to identify with especially coming from the capital city?just?the other day.......... ?
As suggested?earlier?by members, we will be having our first meeting on 12th December to?familiarize?with each other, get to know more about LYP as a club and work our way forward in the coming year. ? The meeting details are as follows:-?
Date:???????????????12/12/2009
Venue:???????????Mombasa Village,
Time:??????????????2:30 -5:00pm
Agenda:?????????Member introduction
?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LYP as a club explained
?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LYP Mombasa ? the way forward
If you will be attending kindly confirm by replying to this thread,?
Come and be part of this great day as we witness the birth of LYP-Mombasa club, and tug your friend?along?with you,
looking forward to seeing the faces?behind?the postings?in the forum.?
attached is the?brochure?and profile from LYP, check through to see our vision mission, objectives and projects.
--?
Best Regards
Josephine Kamanthe
Director Club admin-LYP
Tel: +254 723 736 086





      

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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From migoriclan at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  3 00:11:29 2009
From: migoriclan at yahoo.com (Migori Clan)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:11:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Gang attacks in Nyanza - PEV repay?
In-Reply-To: <519832.58435.qm@web23205.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <303657.1116.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

The issue of gang attacks in Migori is?serious. Many stories have come up including the possibility of the gang having been hired to deal with those who destroyed property of those who fled from Migori during the post election violence. Others now claim it is part of a dreaded vigilante imported into the area but appears to be operating from Kuria District. 
?
It is significant that a number of those who fled from Migori live in Kuria, particularly Isebania from where slowly they have been returning?to reconstruct and do business in the town. 
?
Real re-integration has not taken place and we at Migori Clan have been involved with peace and reconciliation initiatives that are now seriously threatened. 
?
The members of the gang hack people to death and are reportedly not interested in stealing or robbing people of their property , or even any offers of money from the victims. This is waorrying and lends credence to claims that someody or people have paid them enough money and what they are interested in is pure revenge. 
?
But on November 25, residents of Migori town came out in large numbers and started confronting those they thought were complete strangers to find out what they were up to. Two such strangers were found and before a chief could interrogate them or?hand them over to the police,?the enraged mob set on the pair with all manner of weapons including stones and lynched them.
?
On Friday November 26, the market was disrupted and those who had fled from Migori during the post election violence and have been operating from Kuria could not dare come to the market. The situation eased somewhat on?Monday but there is still alot of tension and the local people have vowed to deal with the thugs. 
?
Matters have not been helped by the fact that two days later a taxi driver was shot dead and his passengers?attacked with pangas on his way from Kuria District some kilometres outside Migori Town.
?
People remain on high alert and?etnic relations have been poisoned again. Residents of Masaba Division in Kuria which neighbours Migori and where the taxi driver was killed came out and demonstrated demanding the?transfer of the local administrators and the police for not doing enough to stem the rising insecurity.
?
Migori residents claim the police have failed to respond to alerts from citizens when the gang attacks. One suspected gang member?was at the weekend killed in Wuoth ogik,?in the outskirts of?Migori town when he was allegedly?identified by those?they had attacked earlier. 
?
The?gang is?said to be armed with guns and other weapons and there are claims that they have a list of people they plan to attack.?Some people claim the gang may be hired from Kuria or Tanzania while others think they may have travelled all the way from nairobi and its environs.
?
There are reports that the police have made arrests but this is something we will need to check with them to find out the truth. 
?
Many rumours.... alot of fear ..
?
If we have anything, we shall update Kenyans.

--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Lawrence Agunda <lawn32000 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


From: Lawrence Agunda <lawn32000 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Gang attacks in Nyanza - PEV repay?
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 5:42 AM







Hi 
?
Cannot quite link that one with another story I had last sato about a mzee kidnapped and taken somewhere he did not know. He was blind folded and when later allowed to see, he was shown dead bodies some of them with fresh blood meaning they had just been killed. The Mzee narrated the story to a crowed attending a burial to his son in law and still appeared horrified as that happened to him on his way to the burial.
?
The most scaring bit of it is that the thugs knew him and told him stories of where he use to work and the estate he lived in while in Nairobi working.
?
?
Lawrence.

?
?

?
LAWRENCE AGUNDA, 
UNIM PROJECT, 
BOX 1764, 
KISUMU. 
0733-646222. 

lawn32000 at yahoo.co.uk 
lawn32000 at gmail.com

--- On Mon, 30/11/09, Shadrack Kirunga <SKIRUNGA at anu.ac.ke> wrote:


From: Shadrack Kirunga <SKIRUNGA at anu.ac.ke>
Subject: [YP_Ke] Gang attacks in Nyanza - PEV repay?
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, 30 November, 2009, 12:50


I listened to news last night and there is this gang that is hacking and robbing people in Migori. Some people say the gang claims to be revenging for the attacks against them during the PEV. Any one out there who has an idea what could be going on? Or is it just another crime wave?

Shadrack N. Kirunga
Assistant Dean of Students 
Africa Nazarene University
P.O. Box 53067-00200 Nairobi.
Phone: +254+02-2700584/9, 6752116
Mobile: 0723-739992



3 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/


3 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
?
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/



      

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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From ben.osuga at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 04:48:51 2009
From: ben.osuga at gmail.com (Ben Onyango-Osuga)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 12:48:51 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Comments on Harmonized Draft Constitution
Message-ID: <24f974790912030148n7c3d93b5v34b7716c5be8051@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Colleagues,
I have now read this draft and understood the contents well enough to make
some comments.

I wish to congratulate you for a job well done.

The Draft is quite easy to understand and very informative.I quite like the
Legislature, Executive, Integrity/Ethics and Bill of Rights and  the other
sections, actually.The document is clear and reader-friendly. I hope the
document will not be unduly politicized.

Politicians appear to be so interested in Executive part and only seeing it
in the light of the current office holders and individual, party, ethnic and
other interests.

Specific Comments are on *Citizenship*.
1. I would like to propose *Multiple Citizenship* as opposed to *Dual
Citizenship*. For example, *A child born of a Kenyan Father studying abroad
- North America - who then moves to UK with parents (for work or so) and
lives there for 7 years, acquires British Residency and Citizenship (Dual)
and then dad moves back to Kenya before acquiring Citizenship/Residency.
Does this child - 10 - 12 years old acquire Kenyan Citizenship if he/she so
desires? (Multiple Citizenship?)*

2. *What happens to a Public Official with Dual or Multiple Citizenship who
has misappropriated public funds or is involved in other corrupt/illicit
dealings, and runs away to one or two of the countries they belong to
legally? How about their spouses, children and relatives? *How can this
Constitution protect us from such issues?



-- 
Ben O. Osuga
Independent Development Consultant,
P.O.Box 11855 - 00100, GPO
Nairobi, Kenya.
Landline Tel. +254 20 608 517
Cellphone: +254 723 060 263

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From bkaranu at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  3 04:50:37 2009
From: bkaranu at yahoo.com (bryan karanu)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 01:50:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Hastings Apartments to let - Kasarani area
Message-ID: <698398.3315.qm@web65704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Hi all,

Executive Two (2) bedroomed Apartments with excellent finishes.. Ideally situated next to Strabag at Kasarani (Mwiki Road).
?
Security, caretaker and Garbage Collection services offered. Secure parking?& compound with?perimeter wall and electric fence with alarm.
?
900ltr overhead water storage tank per unit. Shared 10,000ltr water reserve tank underground. TV (including DSTV)?antennas + cabling. Phone connections installed. In-built wardrobes and kitchen cabinets. Lots more.
?
Renting at Kshs. 16,000/= per Month. Hurry!!!
?
Newly constructed. Available immediately. 100m from Mwiki road. See attached photos.


For viewing/renting, interested parties should contact:

Value Zone Limited,
Ambank House, 13th Flr., University way,
P.O. Box 9577-00100, GPO Nairobi, Kenya.
Phone:(+254-020) 317287, 317292, 317293, 317296, 317852
Fax: (+254-020) 317843
Email: info at valuezoneltd.com
Web: www.valuezoneltd.com


      

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From jerryapa at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 04:52:05 2009
From: jerryapa at gmail.com (Jerry Papa)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 12:52:05 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Mombasa Hotels
Message-ID: <5126db250912030152h6d4ec628q2ff7274ae746237a@mail.gmail.com>

Hallo,
am planning for honey moon between 21-27 december in mombasa which hotel can
i get for better deals.
Thanks

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From annixo at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Dec  3 06:29:16 2009
From: annixo at yahoo.co.uk (anne okoth)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:29:16 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: LYP Coast First meeting details: Confirm
	attendnce
In-Reply-To: <728199.78099.qm@web112104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <551440.36637.qm@web26707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Guys
?
I can see the YPs from Mombasa are all set...who is coodinating the Ksm thing??Ernest where are you?
?
Anne

--- On Thu, 3/12/09, DOMMIE.M.N <eddommiex at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: DOMMIE.M.N <eddommiex at yahoo.com>
Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: LYP Coast First meeting details: Confirm attendnce
To: "josephine Ndambuki" <josekamanthe at gmail.com>, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com, jackiekoi at yahoo.com, "Mark Kiyaka" <mkiyaka at gmail.com>
Cc: osireotieno at gmail.com, brykarp2000 at yahoo.co.uk, ladyn283 at yahoo.com, ndiritujg at yahoo.com, Peter.Mtana at ke.spedag.com, timothy_mungoma at yahoo.com, cmogere at yahoo.com, jameskinyua80 at gmail.com, andungu at armkenya.com, "milton" <milton at armkenya.com>, jeffrey at armkenya.com
Date: Thursday, 3 December, 2009, 0:05







Hello YP's,
Attendance confirmation.Nitahudhuria hafla hii.


Imports/Exports Customs Agents 
DOMMIE.M.NTURIBI??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 
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Email:xdommie at yahoo.co.uk,dommie at jayseafreight.co.ke, 
MOMBASA,KENYA??...for a service with a difference

--- On Wed, 12/2/09, Mark Kiyaka <mkiyaka at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Mark Kiyaka <mkiyaka at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: LYP Coast First meeting details: Confirm attendnce
To: "josephine Ndambuki" <josekamanthe at gmail.com>, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com, jackiekoi at yahoo.com
Cc: osireotieno at gmail.com, eddommiex at yahoo.com, brykarp2000 at yahoo.co.uk, ladyn283 at yahoo.com, ndiritujg at yahoo.com, Peter.Mtana at ke.spedag.com, timothy_mungoma at yahoo.com, cmogere at yahoo.com, jameskinyua80 at gmail.com, andungu at armkenya.com, "milton" <milton at armkenya.com>, jeffrey at armkenya.com
Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 9:55 PM





On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Mark Kiyaka <mkiyaka at gmail.com> wrote:

Will attend: Mark Kiyaka 





On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:21 AM, josephine Ndambuki <josekamanthe at gmail.com> wrote:




Good Morning YP coast members,
Thanks for standing up to be counted as part of the?Young?professional's family in Mombasa. I am indeed pleased to have a group to identify with especially coming from the capital city?just?the other day.......... ?
As suggested?earlier?by members, we will be having our first meeting on 12th December to?familiarize?with each other, get to know more about LYP as a club and work our way forward in the coming year. ? The meeting details are as follows:-?
Date:???????????????12/12/2009
Venue:???????????Mombasa Village,
Time:??????????????2:30 -5:00pm 
Agenda:?????????Member introduction 
?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LYP as a club explained 
?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LYP Mombasa ? the way forward 
If you will be attending kindly confirm by replying to this thread,? 
Come and be part of this great day as we witness the birth of LYP-Mombasa club, and tug your friend?along?with you, 
looking forward to seeing the faces?behind?the postings?in the forum.? 
attached is the?brochure?and profile from LYP, check through to see our vision mission, objectives and projects. 
--?
Best Regards
Josephine Kamanthe 
Director Club admin-LYP 
Tel: +254 723 736 086 






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?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
?
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/



      

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From prcanb at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  3 06:33:57 2009
From: prcanb at yahoo.com (Absalom Birai)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 03:33:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Which name/title do you prefer?
Message-ID: <404309.3302.qm@web38708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

There are some things that don't make sense to others and yet they mean so much to others;things such as the way family members/friends/colleagues and others call you. While some people don't mind how others call them,others take offense.

If you have noticed,different cultures treat this issue differently. That a side,there are others who plan on humiliating others by the way they call them. Come with me as we explore this issue:

-There are those who go by their nick names. To such,the only thing that will make them happy is to call them by the nick name they like.

-When it comes to women,it goes different ways. Like which ones? By the husband's name;by their father's name;by their children name;by their maiden name or by their professional/academic titles.

-Those in authority,certain professions,or who have worked hard and earned PHD,need to be addressed as DON, Charge Nurse,Head Coach,Superintendent,  Dr,Professor,Pastor,Engineer,Teacher,Mayor,Ambassador, and such like.

-While there are those who prefer to go by their first names,others prefer their last names.

-Some parents don't mind their children calling them by their names. Others,take offense.

I guess it comes down to knowing ones culture and preference. Does it really matter? You bet! Some people really care about this issue? It might help to let others know how you want them to call you.

As for me,I will like my children to call me dad and all others to call me pastor Birai. What do you want to be called?

Pr Birai
612-386-4608
www.pastorbirai.com






      

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/


From amenya.gibson at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 08:16:52 2009
From: amenya.gibson at gmail.com (amenya gibson)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:16:52 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Why do leaders offer lands for landless during
	elections times
Message-ID: <54e76b740912030516n62f50207q4d71f0457bf95517@mail.gmail.com>

As we move forward to make Kenya a great nation
Let us all join hands and engage our leaders on issue of giving  land
just when elections are around the corner,
This is what has caused all this problems that we are facing,why cant
we have leaders who will work tirelessly during their time so that
they wont offer goodies just when elections are around the corner.
Kenyans wont be fighting each other if issue of land was to be given
not during elections time but afterward


-- 
Thanks
Gibson Amenya
Enigma Consultants Kenya Limited
Email: gibson.amenya at enigma.or.ke
Email:info at enigma.or.ke
For Audit,Taxation and Training Services

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/


From denyutu at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 08:20:11 2009
From: denyutu at gmail.com (Dan Nyutu)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:20:11 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] MARBLE ARCH HOTEL- DIRECTIONS FOR TODAYS
	MEETING WITH HON. KARUA
Message-ID: <23207d9b0912030520l2142417awe75524c81ddede22@mail.gmail.com>

Kinyua,

The hotel is on Lagos Road, a few metres from the Nairobi Fire station. The
place is popular with Akamba buses.

You may see Google Maps directions here:


Marble Arch Hotel
P. O. Box 12224
Lagos Road, Nairobi Central, Nairobi, 00400, Kenya
(0)20 240940
Link: <
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&q=marble+arch+hotel+nairobi&fb=1&hq=marble+arch+hotel&hnear=nairobi&cid=0,0,12055732809614772275&ei=tLgXS_3JNoy04QamyaHeAg&ved=0CB0QnwIwAw&ll=-1.281603,36.823876&spn=0.012571,0.012145&z=16&iwloc=A
>

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:44 AM, james kinyua <jameskinyua80 at gmail.com>wrote:

> HI Hourable members.
>   kindly give direction to the said hotel for anyone willing to attend
> today`s fuction.
> let us not assume  everybody knows the venue.
>
>
> regards
> Hon. kinyua
>
> --
> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
> call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
> Palmhouse
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>



-- 
Daniel Nyutu

Strategy Consultant
Strategic Leadership Center International
Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100
Nairobi, Kenya.
Tel: 3872252/ 3877637/ 2067622
Email: dnyutu at gmail.com
Cell: 0728-200075

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results"

Albert Einstein (Attributed)
US (German born) Physicist (1879-1955)

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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From eddommiex at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  3 08:42:37 2009
From: eddommiex at yahoo.com (DOMMIE.M.N)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 05:42:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] LOVE IN A MENTAL HOSPITAL-just 4 laugh
Message-ID: <804959.26218.qm@web112116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

LOVE IN A MENTAL HOSPITAL

Just because someone doesn't love you the way you want them to, doesn't
Mean they don't love you with all they have.

Jim and Edna were both patients in a mental hospital. One day while they
Were walking past the hospital swimming pool, Jim suddenly jumped into
the deep end. He sank to the bottom of the pool and stayed there. Edna
promptly jumped in to save him. She swam to the bottom and pulled Jim
Out.

When the Head Nurse Director became aware of Edna's heroic act, she
immediately ordered her to be discharged from the hospital, as she now
considered her to be mentally stable. When she went to tell Edna the
news she said, "Edna, I have good news and bad news.
The good news is you're being discharged; since you were able to respond
rationally to a crisis by jumping in and saving the life of another
patient, I have concluded that your act displays that you have a sound
mind. 

The bad news is, Jim, the patient you saved, hung himself in the
bathroom with his bathrobe belt right after you saved him. I am so
sorry, but he's dead."
Edna replied, "He didn't hang himself, I put him there to dry. How
soon can I go home?"

PASS IT AROUND AND MAKE SOMEONE LAUGH!



Imports/Exports Customs Agents
DOMMIE.M.NTURIBI???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
JAYSEA FREIGHT MOVERS LTD
Email:xdommie at yahoo.co.uk,dommie at jayseafreight.co.ke,
0733377779
MOMBASA,KENYA??...for a service with a difference


      

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From newsletter at kara.or.ke  Thu Dec  3 10:49:33 2009
From: newsletter at kara.or.ke (The Kenya Alliance of Resident Associations(KARA))
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 18:49:33 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] Bimonthly Talk Series - 17: What Impact for Land Policy on
	Kenyans?
Message-ID: <MDAEMON-F200912031850.AA5031906pd50001108796@kara.or.ke>

Dear All,Dear All,
 

I trust that this mail finds you well. As you are already aware, KARA (in partnership with Hanns Seidel Foundation and the Ford Foundation), has been running a refreshing and informative Bi-monthly Talk Series (BTS) program on current and topical subjects, in the public interest. 

 

The BTS program brings to light discussions from various points of view, Government on one hand and civil society, private sector and development partners on the other. The discussion takes upto 15 minutes presentations from each keynote speaker. Thereafter, a question and answer session follows.  Here below, please find details for our 17th BTS session; 

  

Date                :           Monday, 7th December 2009 

Time                :           2.00 pm -  5.00pm  

Venue             :           The Sarova Stanley Hotel 

Theme             :           How will the Proposed Land Policy Impact on Kenyans?   

Speakers        :            Prof. Yash Pal Ghai, Kara GC Member and former Chairman, 

Constitutional Review Commission, 

Mr. Chris Foot, Chairman, Kenya Land Owners Association, 

Dr. Ekuru Aukot, Director, Committee of Experts (CoE) 

Entry               :           Members (Ksh. 100); Others (Ksh. 200). Refreshments shall be served 

Moderator       :           Ms. Dorothy Angote, CBS, Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Lands  

  

Please confirm your participation with my colleagues Nancy or Sarah (at the contacts below), soonest possible, to guarantee your reservation. Please book early to avoid disappointment. As always, we look forward to your active and value-adding participation. 

Best regards, 

Stephen 

 

Stephen Mutoro
Chief Executive Officer

The Kenya Alliance of Resident Associations (KARA)
Kabarnet Lane, off Kabarnet Road

P.O Box 1411-00100 GPO, NAIROBI, Kenya
Tel. 254-20-3874331, 3873828, 2341515 
Fax: 254-20-3862872 
Cellphones: 0725983445; 0772700007; 0733779585
E-mail: info at kara.or.ke  or kara at accesskenya.co.ke 
Website: www.kara.or.ke  
KARA - "Together, We Will" 
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From jacoboaz2002 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  3 09:27:11 2009
From: jacoboaz2002 at yahoo.com (Jacob Boaz Muoga)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 06:27:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] will attend the Msa CHAPTER
In-Reply-To: <715637.71152.qm@web63308.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <659185.71587.qm@web33307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

will attend the Msa chapter.


Regards,
Jacob Boaz Muoga
Headquarters office: SIYM INTERNATIONAL
Saba Star Cars Building
Tangana Road, off Moi Avenue
P.O. Box 86183 - 80100
Mombassa, Kenya
Email: jacob at siyminternational.org,info at destinygardenschool.com
www.siyminternational.org
www.destinygardenschoolvolunteers.com
www.destinygardenschool.com
Jacob Boaz Muoga (B.Com, MFS): Programme Director
Tel: +254-723790623 ,+254725881419
Fax: +254-41-495415


--- On Thu, 12/3/09, david gitonga <davidibuuri at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: david gitonga <davidibuuri at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] LYP Mombasa Chapter First meeting details: Confirm attendance
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 5:01 AM






WELCOME FRIENDS
A'm proud to be associated with the group, lets meet n share to make the earth a better plae for us to live.

Rgds

David.





From: josephine Ndambuki <josekamanthe at gmail.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 8:55:25 AM
Subject: [YP_Ke] LYP Mombasa Chapter First meeting details: Confirm attendance



Good Morning YP coast members,
Thanks for standing up to be counted as part of the?Young?professional's family in Mombasa. I am indeed pleased to have a group to identify with especially coming from the capital city?just?the other day.......... ?
?
As suggested?earlier?by members, we will be having our first meeting on?12th December?to?familiarize?with each other, get to know more about LYP as a club and work our way forward in the coming year. ? The meeting details are as follows:-?
?
Date:???????????????12/12/2009
Venue:???????????Mombasa Village,
Time:??????????????2:30 -5:00pm
Agenda:?????????Member introduction
?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LYP as a club explained
?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LYP Mombasa ? the way forward
?
If you will be attending kindly confirm by replying to this thread,?
?
Come and be part of this great day as we witness the birth of LYP-Mombasa club, and tug your friend?along?with you, looking forward to seeing the faces?behind?the postings?in the forum.?
?
Attached is the?brochure?and profile from LYP, check through to see our vision mission, objectives and projects.
--?
Best Regards
Josephine Kamanthe
Director Club admin-LYP Kenya
Tel: +254 723 736 086
-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
?
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/


-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
?
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/



      

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From PubliceyeT at aol.com  Thu Dec  3 15:01:08 2009
From: PubliceyeT at aol.com (PubliceyeT at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:01:08 EST
Subject: [Jambo] Public Eye Group News: Commentary:Religion: Death
	Announcement
Message-ID: <bcc.5e3d5be9.38497304@aol.com>


Kenyan Angel Rhoda Maina Dies In Atlanta, GA
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8128_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8128) 
 
 
 
Standard Cartoon: Kofi Annan Back To See Kibaki And Raila On Reforms
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8115_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8115)  
Update:Death Announcement Of Prof. Mary B. Orina 
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8112_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8112)  
Obama kin's misery over illegal US stay 
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8109_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8109)  
Death Announcement Of Mrs. Gladys Wambui 
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8106_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8106)  
Death Announcement Of Gladys Nyasarora Nyaira
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8103_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8103)  
Kiwi father chooses to rescue wife over son 
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8097_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8097)  
Massive ivory haul in Kenya 
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8094_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8094)  
The Standard Cartoon
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8092_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8092)  
Man escapes lynching over stealing goat 
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8089_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8089)  
Chelsea Clinton Engaged to Be Married
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8087_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8087)  
Death Announcement Of Lawrence Onyiego Marucha 
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8084_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8084)  
A woman struggles against the system to remain in America
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8080_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8080)  
Religion: When his love becomes the only dependable love
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8076_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8076)  
Youth Day Celebration At Maranatha SDA Church/ Kenyan Swahili Mass
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8064_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8064)  
Russia: Bomb caused train crash that killed 26
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8047_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8047)  
Rwanda: African nations block genocide suspects hunt 
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8043_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8043)  
Money Business In The Open Market In Somalia
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8040_ 
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From safaris4 at crocodileracers.net  Thu Dec  3 12:19:29 2009
From: safaris4 at crocodileracers.net (Crocodile Racers Adventures Ltd)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 20:19:29 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] Festive Season - Group Packages
Message-ID: <1861436406_30702892@win720.ourcp.com>

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From kipjsang at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  3 08:49:28 2009
From: kipjsang at yahoo.com (sang kip)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 05:49:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
In-Reply-To: <980879.30616.qm@web65412.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
References: <733294.97392.qm@web57405.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<980879.30616.qm@web65412.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <934124.29883.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

What does Islam's Kadhi Court?in the constitution?to do with integration of Kenya? If Muslims think it's? a must
for their religious court to be enshrined in the constitution then why don't we also do the same to Christian mediation and conflict resolution or even the doctrine of salvation?Christians believe that salvation is by faith in Jesus Christ.Q.Why can't we put this in the constitution? A. Because ours is secular government that does not regulate religion or compel anyone to approach God in any particular way. Nor does it regulate morality.That is the province of religion.
Kadhi Courts shouldn't be part of the constitution.PERIOD!



________________________________
From: alex ndung'u <njukia2000 at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 11:15:51 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.

Hi Abu,
Its good you are raising different issues. I also do like your point that we need to have a culture of tolerance. However, you also must understand that people have different views since it has been seen that Muslims are among the most intolerant of other religions once they are a majority. When they are a minority, they will speak about rights, but when they are a majority, they are very intolerant. In Kenya, especially in North Eastern, people have been stoned and some almost killed because of preaching. I have a friend who survived death by a whisker just this century after he was slashed several times because of being an evangelist. I also do work in Somalia once in while and I can tell you things are not rosy even there, all in the name of Islam.

Since people have come to know that Muslims are very intolerant, especially when they are the majority, it is no wonder they are skeptical. I think many are not fighting Islam per se, what they are concerned about is the contradiction in saying Kenya is a secular state , then on the same platform, giving one religion special recognition. CAN the Kadhi courts be there without being in the constitution? Since they deal with Muslims only, why should they have special status. I think Muslims should be free to manage their courts by even paying for their maintainance, without forcing their views down the throats of others. What is wrong with the courts being there but not being in the constitution? I every aspect of every religion was to be included in the constitution, then we will never have a coonstitution. Is there a possibility that so far people have included them in the drafts out of fear and politics?

I am open to your views.




----- Original Message ----
From: john kamau <jkorig at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 5:08:07 AM
Subject: Re:Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.

The muzungu Did, They put up a strong case to have the Sultanate of Zanzibar? retain full autonomy from rules governing other parts of the country after independece. Then the coastal strip was under this chief slave trader.? He was a business associate of the west, for many years trading with humans who if they happened to survive the Beatings, Decease and other inhuman treatment, were sold to the highest binder in the west mainly Americas. The current day Negros.This is the man we now must hon-our by including his wish in our constitution. most of us mainly our leaders will sell their mother for a penny, that is why they find nothing wrong with this Kadhi legacy. SHAME ON YOU.This is 2010 fellers not 1810. Islam or Christianity are religions. they should be treated as such? no more no less.





--- On Tue, 12/1/09, jekambi at daystar.ac.ke <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke> wrote:

> From: jekambi at daystar.ac.ke <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
> Subject: Re:Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 9:40 PM
> The whole constitution gives rights
> to all faith, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Traditionists, etc
> X100, to freely worship in whichever way. All but one has
> its rights stipulated in the unifying constitution, WHY?
> 
> Each of these groupings have own constitutions that help
> them run their affairs, only should they conflict with the
> unifying constitution, then troubles begin. No one is saying
> no to Khadhi courts being in some constitution, all we are
> skeptical about is why in the main one. The reasoning that
> the other religions have not asked, in not intellectual and
> wise. These other religions have their holy books and own
> written something. But they too have a right to fight for
> their right. But what is ones right? Let?s be reasonable
> and sober in this matter. The constitution is not about us,
> it is about a Kenyan people, the posterity, and the future.
> 
> History is always the best focal point of reference. No one
> is telling us how the Kadhi court came into being, where
> they came from, and why they were include. No one is telling
> us on its limits/boundaries. If we can get the original
> Lancaster manuscript, honestly it will help. But for now,
> everybody is fighting, it must/it must not. These will not
> get us moving. Books of authority are there, let?s use
> them.
> 
> The culture of tolerance, to me means, I respect the
> feelings of all and accommodate all. I must not have my way,
> I should allow every body equally footing and chance. Lets
> listen to every body, even children. Give all an opportunity
> especially the future.
> 
> It is not this is our thing, it must be there. NO
> NOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
> 
> 
> Ekambi
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jasmey Aellah <jasmey at gmail.com>
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com;
> Sent: Tuesday 12/1/2009 9:16:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT
> CONSTITUTION ...
> 
> >Well said Abu, i am a Cristian but still cant help the
> so called church's
> >dim view on Kadhi's court issue. Its every
> organization's aim to expand,
> >whats wrong with islam spreading its wings. Have the
> radical preachers
> >stopped one moment to think and realise that there is
> one God !! This is
> >worse than tribalism! There are Kenyan Muslims and the
> freedom of worship
> >applies to all. Please stop hate campaign
> >
> >On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Simon
> >>
> >> The presentation you are circulating is part of
> the lies and propaganda
> >> peddled by the a section of Christians who are
> mainly radical evangelists
> >> against the Kadhis courts. Just to remind you the
> so-called communique which
> >> is being pointed at is alleged to have been ame in
> 1989 wheras the Kadhis
> >> courts were in existence even before there was a
> single person in Kenya who
> >> adhere to the Christian faith.
> >>
> >> Secondly, yr presentation is nothing new. Exactly
> the same information was
> >> peddled and circulated during the last referendum
> to hoodwink Kenyans about
> >> the courts. This was accompanied by leaflets
> distributed in churches showing
> >> that? violence will break out if the Kadhi
> courts are incorporated in the
> >> constitution.
> >> For generations, the courts were in the Kenyan law
> books and we never saw
> >> any of the so-called Abuja declarations being
> incorporated nor violence btn
> >> Muslims and Christians as a result of the courts.
> >>
> >> It is high time? that a culture of tolerance
> was exhibited as contrary to
> >> these, we should not listen to such characters who
> happen to create discord
> >> among the different Kenyan communities who have
> lived in peace and harmony
> >> for generations.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Abu Ayman
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From:* jekambi <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
> >>
> >> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> >> *Sent:* Tue, December 1, 2009 3:25:17 PM
> >> *Subject:* [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT
> CONSTITUTION OF KENYA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Brethren,
> >>
> >> Kindly read the attached PowerPoint presentation
> and forward it to others.
> >> It will go a long way and possibly help to save
> our country; remember that
> >> ?a stitch in time saves nine?.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> God bless you,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Simon
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>? ------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>? This e-mail was scanned for
> viruses using BitDefender
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>? ------------------------------
> >>? ? This e-mail was scanned
> for viruses using BitDefender
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> >>
> >> --
> >> 2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR
> GALA NIGHT
> >>
> >> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> >> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> >> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> >> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice
> & Constitutional Affairs
> >> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> >> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of
> YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> >> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the
> Mau Politics.
> >>
> >> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
> >> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> >> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> >> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> >> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> >> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> >> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break:
> 7:30 onwards >>>>
> >>
> >> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com,
> or
> >> call
> >> 254 721 663 208.
> >>
> >> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea,
> Snacks & part to go
> >> Palmhouse
> >> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
> >>
> >>? --
> >> 2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR
> GALA NIGHT
> >>
> >> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> >> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> >> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> >> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice
> & Constitutional Affairs
> >> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> >> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of
> YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> >> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the
> Mau Politics.
> >>
> >> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
> >> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> >> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> >> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> >> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> >> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> >> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break:
> 7:30 onwards >>>>
> >>
> >> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com,
> or
> >> call
> >> 254 721 663 208.
> >>
> >> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea,
> Snacks & part to go
> >> Palmhouse
> >> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
> >>
> >
> >-- 
> >1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA
> NIGHT
> >
> >VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
> >DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
> >TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
> >GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice &
> Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
> >TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To
> Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also
> Talk On the Mau Politics.
> >
> >Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
> >Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
> >Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
> >Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
> >Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
> >Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
> >Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30
> onwards >>>> 
> >
> >Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com,
> or call 
> >254 721 663 208. 
> >
> >Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea,
> Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
> >Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
> >
> >
> >This e-mail was scanned for viruses using BitDefender
> 
> 
> This e-mail was scanned for viruses using BitDefender
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> -- 
> 1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
> 
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice &
> Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To
> Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also
> Talk On the Mau Politics.
> 
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards
> >>>> 
> 
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com,
> or call 
> 254 721 663 208. 
> 
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks
> & part to go Palmhouse 
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
> 


? ? ? 

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/



? ? ? 

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/



      

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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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From changkunchina at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 23:13:10 2009
From: changkunchina at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?5bi45Z2kIENoYW5nIEt1bg==?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:13:10 +0800
Subject: [Jambo] =?utf-8?b?44CQQUlEUyBSSUdIVFPjgJEgRndkOiBOR08gRGVsYXlz?=
	=?utf-8?q?_China=27s_first_govt-backed_gay_bar?=
In-Reply-To: <3a559e540912020700u6683cac1wb914ff3eeed24870@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3a559e540912020700u6683cac1wb914ff3eeed24870@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1fbcfdd90912032013h5ac8df89ia3a6a7ad3f79e806@mail.gmail.com>

Delays to China's first govt-backed gay bar: NGO

(AFP) ? 7 hours ago

BEIJING ? Volunteers have delayed opening China's first government-backed
gay bar following intense media attention, an NGO said Wednesday,
highlighting the still taboo nature of homosexuality in the country.

"They were scared their identity would be revealed, that it would lead to
misunderstanding and changes in their lives," said Zhang Jianbo, founder of
the Dali HIV/AIDS prevention and health association, the NGO behind the
initiative.

The bar in Dali, a tourist town in the southwestern province of Yunnan,
aimed to provide a place where homosexuals could meet in a relaxed
atmosphere and get information about HIV/AIDS prevention, he told AFP by
phone.

China's health ministry warned on Tuesday that homosexual transmission of
HIV/AIDS was gaining pace. Zhang, a doctor at a hospital in Dali, said
raising awareness of the disease among the gay community was "extremely
important."

The bar was due to open on December 1 -- World AIDS Day -- with the support
of the local government, which had invested 120,000 yuan (17,600 dollars) in
the NGO, he said.

"Our government leader asked me whether we could open it today, but I said
the volunteers did not want to," Zhang said, pointing out that journalists
and photographers had descended en masse on Dali following news of the bar's
opening.

"If we open a place for an underground group, and if news is published about
our target group and our volunteers in this way, it will influence their
lives," he said.

"The volunteers (also gay) themselves called a democratic meeting and
decided to delay the opening, and when they think the issue has moved on,
then they will open it and continue their work."

Homosexuality in China -- where it was officially considered a mental
illness until 2001 -- is still an extremely sensitive issue.

Gay men and women in China find it difficult to come out to their friends
and family. One of the reasons lies in the nation's one-child policy, which
makes parents rely on their only child to marry and have grandchildren.

The official China Daily newspaper said in 2005 that the number of
homosexuals in China came to around 30 million, although it conceded few
were willing to acknowledge their sexuality.

Statements from government departments and academic reports have put the
figure at approximately 15 million, according to the state-run Xinhua news
agency.

Copyright ? 2009 AFP. All rights reserved.
<http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/copyright?hl=en>


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From muchombaf at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 11:46:40 2009
From: muchombaf at gmail.com (Fredrick Muchomba)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 19:46:40 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] SALES REPRESENTATIVES
Message-ID: <a38aec6d0912030846ga7a2cd4jc45e1f2b114eaf02@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All,

A friend of mine who works for an Information Technology company is looking
for experienced Sales Representatives for IT products from their firm.  If
you know any one interested in this job offer please call me on

0723 412 479
or

email me Muchomba Fredrick <muchombaf at gmail.com>

The person qualified must:


   1. Demonstrate though knowledge of IT systems
   2. Have Experience in Sales for a minimum of six(6) months.
   3. Be result oriented.
   4. Be ready to work on commission basis.

Ladies are most encouraged to apply.

CALL ASAP or EMAIL SOONEST POSSIBLE - time is of the essence.

Regards,

-- 
Mr. Fredrick Muchomba Inyasia,
P.O. Box 6039,Nairobi.

0723 412 479,0731 001241,0770192361.

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

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From wswanjala at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 14:39:56 2009
From: wswanjala at gmail.com (Steve Wabwire)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 22:39:56 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Saraficom Customer Care & Policies
In-Reply-To: <73570831A0E04187A498B4C3ECCB9F08@blzeastafrica.local>
References: <73570831A0E04187A498B4C3ECCB9F08@blzeastafrica.local>
Message-ID: <c38a10650912031139j1c6d3788r4895d4bd6c345955@mail.gmail.com>

At least there comes the whistle blower.... SAFARICOM i think u r
customer service ethics are either too harsh to the people who kp u
there...i also have the same issue but with a 50 bob recharge
voucher...i dont understand why i shld take more than 2min to get to a
customer care desk..the process should be simplified to jz giving in
the serial no. of the voucher then virtually recharge the respective
account...it saves time, money,agony & frustrations...something else
is No.s 100 and 234 are never useful at time of need. Safaricom Ict
team u Guyz are a top cream do something or provide a normal 9 digits
Gsm/safaricom number either charged or toll free....above else
competitor's are not sleeping

On 12/3/09, Benson Hongo <bensonhongo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I dont know much about policies and what they are meant to safeguard at any
> given time. I have never raised a finger at Safaricom despite their ever
> wanting service but I have now been compelled to do just that.
> I am currently working form NEP precisely at the Dadaab Refugee Camp. I
> bought airtime and a bottle of very cold soda. Without giving it much
> thought, I used the bottle to secure the card as the place is too windy. A
> small bit of the card got wet and thus when I tried to scatch to load, I
> tampered with the 1st three digits so am unable to load the Kshs 100
> airtime. that was two days ago.
>
> I have been trying to call the customer care all day all night to no avail.
> Today morning when I got through it was more than disappointing.
> I was told by the lady who was probably doing her job, that she has to give
> me a reference number, which I will need to take to an authoried centre so
> that they could see whether it qualifies to be replaced. So I ask her to
> check for an authorised dealer(I know there is none this sides) so she
> confirms the same.
> In such instances what am I supposed to do? Well her advice was I keep the
> card and next time I am travelling out which will be on 24th December I can
> have the card replaced.
>
> I dont know guys, but I dont believe this is how consumers ought to be
> treated by a company that keeps getting awards and raking in millions each
> year. i am stillpissed off and I have palced the card on my laptop to keep
> looking at it.
> What if it was my last cent to salvation? What if I was a victim of a bandit
> attack and needed help or was sick?
>
> Another friend who had been having top-up issues was advised to either okoa
> jahazi or redeem his bonga points
>
> C'mon....
>
> Ben
>
> --
> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
> Palmhouse
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>

-- 
Sent from my mobile device

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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/


From gesmatt at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 15:27:56 2009
From: gesmatt at gmail.com (MATUNDURA GESORA)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 23:27:56 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] weekend out in Nairobi
Message-ID: <8e0829a0912031227j60fc1bdfm3c5e7c920f42004d@mail.gmail.com>

hi people,
anybody with knowledge of a good place in or just slightly out of town where
one can spend a weekend with a spouse/gf etc. budget should not exceed 4k.
regards
-- 
Matt

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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

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From terryshiundu at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 01:16:08 2009
From: terryshiundu at gmail.com (Terry Shiundu)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:16:08 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Furnished Apartment in Westlands
Message-ID: <ca30a6e70912032216s5b4220c8gddf281ee2a7bc2af@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

I trust that you are well this morning. Just an inquiry. Could anyone in the
forum be knowing of or renting out furnished apartments in Westland. A
couple is interested in renting one for 3 weeks, this December. Kindly
contact me directly on my e-mail with details of charges too.

Have a blessed day.
Thanks.

Terry

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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From jacoboaz2002 at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  4 01:44:05 2009
From: jacoboaz2002 at yahoo.com (Jacob Boaz Muoga)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 22:44:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Gods Agenda verses ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT
	CONSTITUTION.
In-Reply-To: <875347.19381.qm@web62001.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <532724.96654.qm@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

....from my understanding Ms Ramah Salim ,religion is a natural phenomena through which people believe.Jesus Christ teachings put emphasis in not only hearing what he says or God says but putting into application what He/God says, then we become[Christians].Its not limited to just hearing and saying but application of what God says ,so we can not define Christianity as a religion in the words of Christ Jesus.He talked of the good religion with example giving to those in need and taking care of the widows.So its more on the lifestyle for a real practizing Christian than the law.The context of everything is in the word of GOD for a practizing christian.I think Kadhis court?or no Kadhis court practising christians should not be affected by either.
?
Unpractising christians are limited in knowledge and insight of God's word/Christ teachings.Its difficult if one?does not have spiritual sight, then even is environment becomes is enemy.The environment of the Kadhi's court should not intimidate me if i am a really practizing Christian.Jesus Christ taught in parables i quote his words:"Though seeing,they do not see;though hearing they do not hear,they do not hear or understand.But blessed are your eyes because they see,and your ears because they hear.For i tell you the truth,many prophets and righteous men longed to see what you see but did not see it,and hear what you hear but did not hear it" he kept talking in parables...So let practising Christians fix their eyes on Jesus Christ as a standard of life and there is no short cut on this.Just like we can not stop certain? groups to exist but we should not endorse their existence as practising Christians.Be it far from us if we do so.
?
We can not fight to be significant less we loose our focus.Practizing Christians divine significance is drawn from God not from fighting the Kadhi's court.This as always been there, just like pharaoh the king in Egypt during the time of Joseph and just like the time of? Daniel in Babylon when King Nebuchadnezzar was ruling.So king sultan or no king sultan ,Christianity can not embrace escapism mentality but blessed are those practizing christians that draw from heaven but leave on earth and are displaying the kingdom lifestyle and leave to please God and follow Christ Jesus teaching and recognises the season of grace.The truth be told, the kadhi's court will not and shall never infringe on the practizing?christian/s right/s.


Regards,
Jacob Boaz Muoga
Mombassa, Kenya
Email: jacob at siyminternational.org,
www.siyminternational.org
mobile no.?0723790623

?

--- On Thu, 12/3/09, Okiya Omtatah Okoiti <omtatah at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Okiya Omtatah Okoiti <omtatah at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 7:18 AM






Dear Ramah,

Peace be upon you. 

All religions are worldviews that think of themselves as the only true religion. And being worldviews they all are ways of life. Hence, there is no religion that is not subsequently a way of life. Personally, I have never come across a religion that only places academic demands on its followers; they all have codes of conduct governing and directing the way their faith is actualised in the daily lives of their adherents.

Regards,

Omtatah



From: RAMAH SALIM <kipkesar at yahoo.com>
To: john kamau <jkorig at yahoo.com>
Cc: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 12:55:28 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.



John,
I am Ramah and not Rahah.Please note Islam is not just a religion but a way of life,that is why we required a dispute mechanism that will cater for our way of life esp. on family matters.If Xtians ,hindus and all other faiths want such a thing let them go ahead and no muslim will reject.I am still waiting for your facts concerning the Kadhi Courts and how it infringes on your right/s as a xtian AND TO PROVE ALL THOSE LIES THAT ARE BEING PEDDLED.

Ramah.s





From: john kamau <jkorig at yahoo.com>
To: RAMAH SALIM <kipkesar at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 11:34:54 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.


Rahah and those obsessed with this kadhi issue, please remember that Hindu, Christians and all other faith based institutions administer in mar rages, deaths, Inheritance and divorce too. They do not have to have their internal affairs enshrined in the National constitution to do this.









--- On Wed, 12/2/09, RAMAH SALIM <kipkesar at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: RAMAH SALIM <kipkesar at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Cc: jkorig at yahoo.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 11:02 PM
> John,
> Stop peddling falsehoods.The courts are just to adminster
> matters relating to inheritance and divorce for Muslims and
> not criminal matters.Where does this affect you as a
> christian? Please sober up and do not be misled by christain
> fundamentalists.My challlege read the draft and come with
> facts and not generalisatiosn you see on Televisions and
> hear from enemies of Islam.
> 
> Ramah.S
> 
> From:
> john kamau <>
> To:
> youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009
> 5:08:07 AM
> Subject:
> Re:Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT
> CONSTITUTION.
> 
> 
> The muzungu Did, They put up a strong case to have the
> Sultanate of Zanzibar? retain full autonomy from rules
> governing other parts of the country after independece. Then
> the coastal strip was under this chief slave trader.?
> He was a business associate of the west, for many years
> trading with humans who if they happened to survive the
> Beatings, Decease and other inhuman treatment, were sold to
> the highest binder in the west mainly Americas. The current
> day Negros.This is the man we now must hon-our by including
> his wish in our constitution. most of us mainly our leaders
> will sell their mother for a penny, that is why they find
> nothing wrong with this Kadhi legacy. SHAME ON YOU.This is
> 2010 fellers not 1810. Islam or Christianity are religions.
> they should be treated as such? no more no less.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 12/1/09, jekambi at daystar.ac.ke
>? <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: jekambi at daystar.ac.ke
> <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
> > Subject: Re:Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE
> DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
> > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 9:40 PM
> > The whole constitution gives rights
> > to all faith, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Traditionists,
> etc
> > X100, to freely worship in whichever way. All but one
> has
> > its rights stipulated in the unifying constitution,
> WHY?
> > 
> > Each of these groupings have own constitutions that
>? help
> > them run their affairs, only should they conflict with
> the
> > unifying constitution, then troubles begin. No one is
> saying
> > no to Khadhi courts being in some constitution, all we
> are
> > skeptical about is why in the main one. The reasoning
> that
> > the other religions have not asked, in not
> intellectual and
> > wise. These other religions have their holy books and
> own
> > written something. But they too have a right to fight
> for
> > their right. But what is ones right? Let?s be
> reasonable
> > and sober in this matter. The constitution is not
> about us,
> > it is about a Kenyan people, the posterity, and the
> future.
> > 
> > History is always the best focal point of reference.
> No one
> > is telling us how the Kadhi court came into being,
> where
> > they came from, and why they were include. No one is
> telling
> > us on its limits/boundaries. If we can get the
> original
> >
>? Lancaster manuscript, honestly it will help. But for now,
> > everybody is fighting, it must/it must not. These will
> not
> > get us moving. Books of authority are there, let?s
> use
> > them.
> > 
> > The culture of tolerance, to me means, I respect the
> > feelings of all and accommodate all. I must not have
> my way,
> > I should allow every body equally footing and chance.
> Lets
> > listen to every body, even children. Give all an
> opportunity
> > especially the future.
> > 
> > It is not this is our thing, it must be there. NO
> > NOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
> > 
> > 
> > Ekambi
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jasmey Aellah <jasmey at gmail.com>
> > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com;
> > Sent: Tuesday 12/1/2009 9:16:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT
> > CONSTITUTION ...
> > 
> > >Well said Abu, i am a Cristian but still cant help
> the
> > so called church's
> > >dim view on Kadhi's court issue. Its every
> > organization's aim to expand,
> > >whats wrong with islam spreading its wings. Have
> the
> > radical preachers
> > >stopped one moment to think and realise that there
> is
> > one God !! This is
> > >worse than tribalism! There are Kenyan Muslims and
> the
> > freedom of worship
> > >applies to all. Please stop hate campaign
> > >
> > >On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> >
>? >>
> > >> Simon
> > >>
> > >> The presentation you are circulating is part
> of
> > the lies and propaganda
> > >> peddled by the a section of Christians who
> are
> > mainly radical evangelists
> > >> against the Kadhis courts. Just to remind you
> the
> > so-called communique which
> > >> is being pointed at is alleged to have been
> ame in
> > 1989 wheras the Kadhis
> > >> courts were in existence even before there
> was a
> > single person in Kenya who
> > >> adhere to the Christian faith.
> > >>
> > >> Secondly, yr presentation is nothing new.
> Exactly
> > the same information was
> > >> peddled and circulated during the last
> referendum
> > to hoodwink Kenyans about
> > >> the courts. This was accompanied by leaflets
> > distributed in churches showing
> > >> that? violence will break out
>? if the Kadhi
> > courts are incorporated in the
> > >> constitution.
> > >> For generations, the courts were in the
> Kenyan law
> > books and we never saw
> > >> any of the so-called Abuja declarations
> being
> > incorporated nor violence btn
> > >> Muslims and Christians as a result of the
> courts.
> > >>
> > >> It is high time? that a culture of
> tolerance
> > was exhibited as contrary to
> > >> these, we should not listen to such
> characters who
> > happen to create discord
> > >> among the different Kenyan communities who
> have
> > lived in peace and harmony
> > >> for generations.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Abu Ayman
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >> *From:* jekambi <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
> > >>
> > >> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> > >> *Sent:* Tue, December 1, 2009 3:25:17 PM
> > >> *Subject:* [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE
> DRAFT
> > CONSTITUTION OF KENYA
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dear Brethren,
> > >>
> > >> Kindly read the attached PowerPoint
> presentation
> > and forward it to others.
> > >> It will go a long way and possibly help to
> save
> > our country; remember that
> > >> ?a stitch in time saves nine?.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> God bless you,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Simon
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>? >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >>???------------------------------
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>???This e-mail was scanned for
> > viruses using BitDefender
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >>???------------------------------
> > >>? ???This e-mail was
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> 2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF
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> > >>
> > >> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> > >> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> > >> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> > >> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former
> Justice
> > & Constitutional Affairs
> > >> Minister, Gichugu
>? MP.
> > >> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role
> Of
> > YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> > >> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On
> the
> > Mau Politics.
> > >>
> > >> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ?
> 6:00pm
> > >> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> > >> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> > >> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> > >> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ?
> 7:20
> > >> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> > >> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea
> Break:
> > 7:30 onwards >>>>
> > >>
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> > or
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> > >> 2 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF
> YEAR
> > GALA NIGHT
> > >>
> > >> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> > >> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> > >> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> > >> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former
> Justice
> > & Constitutional Affairs
> > >> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> > >> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role
> Of
> > YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> > >> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On
> the
> > Mau Politics.
> > >>
> > >> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ?
> 6:00pm
> > >> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10
>? ? 6:12
> > >> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> > >> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> > >> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ?
> 7:20
> > >> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> > >> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea
> Break:
> > 7:30 onwards >>>>
> > >>
> > >> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com,
> > or
> > >> call
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> > >-- 
> > >1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR
>? GALA
> > NIGHT
> > >
> > >VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
> > >DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
> > >TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
> > >GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice
> &
> > Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
> > >TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of
> YPs To
> > Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will
> Also
> > Talk On the Mau Politics.
> > >
> > >Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
> > >Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
> > >Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
> > >Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
> > >Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
> > >Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
> > >Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break:
> 7:30
> > onwards >>>> 
> > >
> > >Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com,
> > or call 
> > >254 721 663 208. 
> > >
> > >Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your
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> > This e-mail was scanned for viruses using BitDefender
> > 
> > -- 
> > 1 DAY TO GO !! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA
> NIGHT
> > 
> > VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
> > DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
> > TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
> > GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice &
> > Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
> > TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs
>? To
> > Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will
> Also
> > Talk On the Mau Politics.
> > 
> > Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm 
> > Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
> > Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
> > Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
> > Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
> > Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
> > Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30
> onwards
> > >>>> 
> > 
> > Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com,
> > or call 
> > 254 721 663 208. 
> > 
> > Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea,
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> >
>? 
> 
> 
> ? ? ? 
> 
> -- 
> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
> 
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice &
> Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To
> Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also
> Talk On the Mau Politics.
> 
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards
> >>>> 
> 
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com,
> or call 
> 254 721 663 208. 
> 
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks
> & part to go Palmhouse 
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
> 
> 
> 
> 
>? ? ? 





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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
?
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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
?
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-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

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From youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 02:39:56 2009
From: youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com (Moderator YP_Ke)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 23:39:56 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Updates of Yesterday's LYP Meeting
Message-ID: <82dec6650912032339k22a392n7f1c994d71807fbc@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Esteemed Members,



Here is a brief report of our LYP meeting yesterday with Hon. Martha Karua
as our Guest Speaker. The meeting started at 6:20pm and was adjourned at
9:00pm; though members continue to network over a cup of coffee thereafter
till 10:00pm



Our end of year meeting turned to be one of the best congregations of YPs
this year, coupled with a very informative and brilliant presentation by Hon
Martha Karua. She took us through 5 areas of contention that she feels us as
young professionals should re-look at, make further discussions and make
submission to COE.



The areas are



*The executive*

She first took us through various systems of government & how they work, the
parliamentary system like one in US, presidential like one in US, and a
hybrid like the French System. The current one that is proposed and the one
we are running now close to hybrid system.



With the current one being proposed as a reaction to reduce or check
presidential powers, she requested us to look further which is the best way
to introduce that. It is through transferring some of the powers to the
office of the Prime Minister which could result to two parallel centers of
power or is it by having a very powerful parliament like in the USA where
the president cannot make any major changes or policy without the approval
of the congress?  Currently since we are having both offices, are you
content with the way they are operating?



With powers being transferred to the office of PM who is elected by MPs &
not universal suffrage, and knowing how easy it is for members of parliament
to be manipulated through seduction, bribery or promises (she quipped the
current parliament is the most corrupt of the 4 parliament she has been),
unless changed, we might having moneyed people determine who runs the
government.



She requested us to go to the internet and research more on how various
governments around the world work.



*The Legislature*

The proposed parliament will have 2 houses, the Senate & the National
assembly. Though good, she noted the size of the senate is yet not known
since the numbers of counties are not known (Since the boundaries commission
has not finished it work)



She said though the article is the Right to recall is widely supported, she
isn?t happy with it in its current form, as should be made more stringent to
avoid witch hunt by those who loose to make it to parliament. Two weeks
after you have been elected to parliament and working hard, your opponents
may already be collecting signatures to recall you. It should be made more
stringent so that cases of recall can only be launched once there are
substantial bases to do that.



*Devolution.*

* *

With devolved government, we shall have 3 governments, the Parliament, the
Regional governments the county governments. We are already complaining of
bloated cabinet, do we have the resources to support all of the three levels
of governments? & with the number of counties still unknown, we might end up
with a bloated government which we might not sustain with the available
resources. She requested us to do the mathematics to see the number the
number of elected officers we shall have the average resources we will need
in terms of salaries 7 other expenditures



*Judicial System.*

On the Kadhi court she requested us Christian to be tolerant. She was amazed
that Kadhi court was one on the most hotly discussed topic in YP. She said
since Kadhi courts have there in the constitution & never had any problem,
why do we want to remove them. And how do you think our brother Muslim
interpret or react to that. She however noted that if they remain as
proposed in the draft constitution then the wording should be the same as
the in the old constitution. She said the wording in the draft is different
and we should reread & look at the finer details to avoid problems.





Here she said we can make improvements to ensure we have a more independent
system. For example, with the judges being appointed/recommended by Judicial
Service Commission composed of the members of the judicial system itself who
may be appointed cronies of the power be, we should be have an external
body, say an inspectorate composed as of for example the members of LSK,
academia etc to have a say in appointment of judges to ensure integrity of
the system.





* *



Before she ended she reminded us the following.



A constitution however good will not be the only solution to take us
forward. We also need to change our ethics, change our leaders, and end
impunity even at the lowest level etc. She says even the current
constitution could have taken us places only if the rule of law is observed.
Do you know it says someone who alleged to have committed economic crime
should not be appointed to cabinet? While 1/3 of the current cabinet have
such cases?! Even we have a new constitution without a change of leaders who
will respect it, we might not move forward. We need a new crop of leaders, a
paradigm shift.



Did you know Britain doesn?t have a *written constitution*, yet it is one of
the best run countries in the world?



She also requested us to use the vitality, creativity, innovativeness, the
boldness and the risk-taking attitude/appetite of the youth to initiate
initiatives to move the country forward. She said the older people are more
conservative and therefore can not make drastic and tremendous changes or
shift that is so critical for us revolution. So the challenge is left to us
the young people.



Are we equal to the task, up to the challenge?



-- 
Regards
YP_Ke Group Moderator

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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

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From yaris at africaonline.co.ke  Fri Dec  4 01:53:28 2009
From: yaris at africaonline.co.ke (Reishi Arun Parikh)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:53:28 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Reishi - Quotes
Message-ID: <001801ca74ae$7c8ae790$6400a8c0@yaris8c3011399>

Chanakya's Quotes - Worth reading a million times.
>
>
>
> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ***
> "A person should not be too honest.
> Straight trees are cut first
> and Honest people are victimized first."
> Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC -275 BC)
>
>      ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ***
> "Even if a snake is not poisonous,
> it should pretend to be venomous."
> Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC-275 BC)
> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ***
> "The biggest guru-mantra is:
> Never share your secrets with anybody. !
> It will destroy you."
> Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC-275 BC)
>
>      ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ***
> "There is some self-interest behind every friendship.
> There is no Friendship without self-interests.
> This is a bitter truth."
> Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC-275 BC)
> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ***
> "Before you start some work, always ask yourself three questions -
> Why am I doing it,
> What the results might be and
> Will I be successful.
> Only when you think deeply and find satisfactory answers to these   
> questions, go ahead."
> Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC-275 BC)
> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ***
> "As soon as the fear approaches near,
> attack and destroy it."
> Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC-275 BC)
> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ***
> "Once you start a working on something,
> don't be afraid of failure and don't abandon it.
> People who work sincerely are the happiest."
> Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC-275BC)
>
>  ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ***
> "The fragrance of flowers spreads only in the direction of the wind.
> But the goodness of a person spreads in all direction.."
> Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC-275BC)
> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ***
> "A man is great by deeds, not by birth."
> Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC-275BC) ]
>
>   ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ***
> "Treat your kid like a darling for the first five years. For the   
> next five years, scold them.
> By the time they turn sixteen, treat them like a friend.. Your grown  
>  up children are your best friends."
> Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC-275BC)
>
>      ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ***
> "Books are as useful to a stupid person
> as a mirror is useful to a blind person."
> Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC-275BC)
> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ***
> "Education is the best friend.
> An educated person is respected everywhere.
> Education beats the beauty and the youth."
> Chanakya quotes  (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC-275BC)

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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

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From dmwangi at justice.com  Fri Dec  4 01:55:04 2009
From: dmwangi at justice.com (Douglas Mwangi)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 22:55:04 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] This I know!
Message-ID: <20091203225504.47D62FBF@resin13.mta.everyone.net>

greetins my brethrens n sistahs...Pastor , i always look forward to read your notes...so tru from the scriptures...its a "more teachins" especially for the youths as Morgan heritage put it.
BLESSED N ONE LOVE.

We give thnx

--- prcanb at yahoo.com wrote:

From: Absalom Birai <prcanb at yahoo.com>
To: "youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com" <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
Subject: [YP_Ke] This I know!
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:54:14 -0800 (PST)

I do not and can not claim to know a lot of things in this world. That said,daily interactions with others over the years has made me to make certain conclusions which obviously are debatable. Here is what I claim to know:

1. Partiality or showing favoritism will always be with us. It seems to me that some of us tend to see/view/judge/evaluate others based on not so much on what they are capable of doing, but rather on whether they are family members/relatives,friends, or of my tribe/clan/race.

2.Those things that we flatly condemn as deserving severe punishment when done by those we don't like, some of us go gentle and call for patience/understanding/forgiveness when they touch those that we love.

3.Many of us don't care of helping others until tragedy hits us hard.Then we realize that we need others in our lives.

4.Some of us don't seem to realize the importance of others until we are forced to seek for their help.

5.Those who have taught themselves the proper sequence of priorities-God,family, and others-seem to enjoy life.If you mix those up,you have yourself to blame.

6.The things that my father taught me have stood the test;he taught me to respect others and watch lest others pull me back.

7.I read it in the Gospels;I saw my mum practice it;I took the challenge and have never regretted.What was it? Moved by compassion to assist others.Those who go an extra mile to help others have never been disappointed. If anything,God always pays back at the fullness of time.

8.If the Lord came down today and asked me to ask but one thing, I know what that thing will be? "To be humble like Moses,John, the baptist and the Lord Jesus Himself!" So,help me dear Lord!

Blessings.

Pr Birai
612-386-4608
www.pastorbirai.com



      

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Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
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From rmogoi at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 02:42:00 2009
From: rmogoi at gmail.com (Robert Mogoi)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 10:42:00 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Looking for twin sim phone for GSM and CDMA
Message-ID: <bc4dc81e0912032342r1a524c04oa9b4cb4768459252@mail.gmail.com>

Dear YP,
Please if someone know where i can buy a twin sim phone which will take GSM
and CDMA cards
Not the black ZTE type.
Regards.

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Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
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DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
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GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
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From rsyokau at lloydmasika.co.ke  Fri Dec  4 02:36:58 2009
From: rsyokau at lloydmasika.co.ke (Rose Syokau)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 10:36:58 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] STOP & LISTEN
Message-ID: <20091204073402.C76F9EB992@mail.lloydmasika.co.ke>

 
Everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger......James
1:19
A story is told about a group of carpenters who were building an icehouse in
the north country of Canada. They were taking a lunch break when a boy came
upon them and heard their conversation. One was bemoaning a watch he had
lost at some point in the morning's work. Though he'd looked for it for a
couple of hours, he hadn't been able to find it.
"Would you mind if I went into the ice house and looked?" the boy asked.
"Yeah, sure," the men laughed, certain he would never find anything in a
dark room with no electricity. Within 30 seconds, the boy emerged holding
the watch in his hand. The carpenters couldn't believe it! "How did you find
it?"
"It was simple," the boy said. "I just stopped in the middle of the room,
stood still and listened for ticking."
Many of us (especially men) are accused of not listening very well.
They rarely stop and take time to focus our attention-to really hear-what
their spouse is trying to tell them. Most often they quickly say things
like, "You shouldn't feel that way. You're blowing this all out of
proportion."
Those are statements that come from not really seeking to listen and
understand where someone is coming from.
During serious conversations or conflicts, you need to stop and listen, ask
questions or paraphrase what the other part is saying in order to understand
what they really mean. Asking a good question can often be like an emotional
crowbar to dislodge how somebody really feels.
Listening is another way of saying, "You're important to me"
 The person who says, "You're not listening to me," is usually right. 
How often are these words spoken to us? What is one habit we can change to
become better listeners?
Thank God for always being there to listen to us, no matter how illogical or
reactionary we may sometimes be. Let us ask for His counsel in how to be
more like Him. Let us pray that we will be better listeners.
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VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

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From jimadede at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  4 05:06:46 2009
From: jimadede at yahoo.com (James Adede)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 02:06:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Hastings Apartments to let - Kasarani area
In-Reply-To: <249279.74597.qm@web39706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <698398.3315.qm@web65704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
	<249279.74597.qm@web39706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <773240.58884.qm@web65616.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Dear Brian,
A friend of mine who came from a broad is urgently looking for a place to settle. Are the appartmnents still available? Let me know so that I can connect you with him.

Regards,

JIM


________________________________
From: fred wagah <fredwagah21150 at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Cc: bkaranu at yahoo.com; lowere2000 at yahoo.com
Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 7:29:32 PM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Hastings Apartments to let - Kasarani area


Bryan,

Can you forward for the floor plans to see  how the bedrooms, dinning, leaving room, kitchen room, laundry room look like




________________________________
From: bryan karanu <bkaranu at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 4:50:37 AM
Subject: [YP_Ke] Hastings Apartments to let - Kasarani area


Hi all,
 
Executive Two (2) bedroomed Apartments with excellent finishes. Ideally situated next to Strabag at Kasarani (Mwiki Road).
 
Security, caretaker and Garbage Collection services offered. Secure parking & compound with perimeter wall and electric fence with alarm.
 
900ltr overhead water storage tank per unit. Shared 10,000ltr water reserve tank underground. TV (including DSTV) antennas + cabling. Phone connections installed. In-built wardrobes and kitchen cabinets. Lots more.
 
Renting at Kshs. 16,000/= per Month. Hurry!!!
 
Newly constructed. Available immediately. 100m from Mwiki road. See attached photos.
 
 
For viewing/renting, interested parties should contact:
 
Value Zone Limited,
Ambank House, 13th Flr., University way,
P.O. Box 9577-00100, GPO Nairobi, Kenya.
Phone:(+254-020) 317287, 317292, 317293, 317296, 317852
Fax: (+254-020) 317843
Email: info at valuezoneltd.com
Web: www.valuezoneltd.com
 
 

 


 

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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
 
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
 
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
 
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
 
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
 
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
 
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
 
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
 
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/



      

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

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From mathewsogutu at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 05:26:06 2009
From: mathewsogutu at gmail.com (Mathews)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:26:06 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] NAIROBIANS YP OUTING - Getaway places this
	December.
Message-ID: <af9e2360912040226x69b2c152ud0941621131da9e7@mail.gmail.com>

Winnie,

Am going down two Places.

1. 11th to 13th Dec; - Tizi Camp inn Namanga for the weekend
2. Spend X-mas Camping expedition in Naivasha 24th to 26th December.

If you are not travelling this Xmas to the village then we can have a date
with a number of couples attending. 8 have confirmed.

If Interested give me a call. 0751/0723 714000.

Dr.Matt

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Winfred Nyambura <
winfred at panafricantrucks.com> wrote:

>  Nairobians,
>
> Is there a nyamachoma/kanywanji/dance for NAIROBI YPs.  i.e. like end year
> party or something of the sort.
>
> --
> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
> call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
> Palmhouse
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>



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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

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From mkariuki at kengen.co.ke  Fri Dec  4 01:25:38 2009
From: mkariuki at kengen.co.ke (Margaret Kariuki)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:25:38 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Watch the money
In-Reply-To: <92a189420912030439n288f1251u64ea0b533f5b85ce@mail.gmail.com>
References: <92a189420912030439n288f1251u64ea0b533f5b85ce@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B0D8F2B6B5A95B46BB40EFD695BAF3C5159D650840@stimamail.kengen.co.ke>

You said it so well.
Am smiling.

From: Kelvin [mailto:kjayanoris at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:39 PM
To: youngprofessionals_ke
Subject: [YP_Ke] Watch the money


"How much life insurance do you have?"

Zig Ziglar liked to say that with that one question, you could tell if someone was a successful life insurance agent. If they're not willing to buy it with their own money, how can they honestly persuade someone else to do so?

If you're in the music business but you never buy tickets or downloads, can you really empathize with the people you're selling to?

My favorite: if you work for a non-profit and you don't give money to charity, what exactly are you doing in this job? I've met some incredibly generous people in the charitable world, but I can also report that a huge number of people-even on the fundraising side-would happily cross the street and risk a beating in order to avoid giving $100 to a cause that's not their own. And the shame of it is that this inaction on their part keeps them from experiencing the very emotion that they try so hard to sell.

Money is more than a transfer of value. It's a statement of belief. An ad agency that won't buy ads, a consultant who won't buy consulting, and a waiter who doesn't tip big-it's a sign, and not a good one.


Kelvin
www.likechapaa.com<http://www.likechapaa.com>
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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
TIME: 6:00pm - 8:00pm
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP.
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants - 6:00pm - 6:10pm
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 - 6:12
Prayers: 6:12 - 6:15
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 - 6: 25
Talk - The Draft Constitution : 6:35 - 7:20
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 - 7:25
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call
254 721 663 208.

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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
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From ongerapeter at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  4 06:12:40 2009
From: ongerapeter at yahoo.com (PETER ONGERA)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 03:12:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Homestay Documentary
In-Reply-To: <23207d9b0912040248x37f7145ehaa5d7e626b8e38ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <136168.61056.qm@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I am helping a British TV crew currently working on
a new landmark documentary series about the growing number of British families putting day-to-day life on hold tosee the world with their children. Through the films?they hope to highlight just how rewarding,educational and most importantly possible it is to go traveling with the kids. 
Our hope is that the programmes will inspire more parents thinking about this kind of trip to actually take the plunge and get involved around the world. We also want to highlight the positives of this kind of experience has on a family unit and the educational benefit for children. Each family would be left with a unique travel-log of their journey.. 
The families that we are following are?going to Kenya,Uganda,Ethiopia,Rwanda and Zambia.? Our hope is that the families will be able to find some local life and immerse within the local community, staying mostly clear of tourist areas,while doing volunteer work. 
The families?are very keen for them to experience local life away from Western society. 
Please help me identify good hosts and projects to participate in the program.


Peter Ongera
Social?Entrepreneur and Consultant
Skype:peter.ongera
www.africanhomestay.net
?
?????????? LIVE ,STUDY and WORK in AFRICA


--- On Fri, 12/4/09, Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Updates of Yesterday's LYP Meeting
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 5:48 AM


Thanks Francis for the update.


>From the discussions yesterday, we agreed to firm up our views in light of the new?enlightenment?by Hon. Karua and forward them to the COE.


Thus, i request we forward our comments to?youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com. All views will be collated and forwaded to the COE.


Please do so within the next ten days so that we can beat the deadline.


Dan.


LYP Treasurer.


On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Moderator YP_Ke <youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com> wrote:


Hi Esteemed Members, 
?
Here is a brief report of our LYP meeting yesterday with Hon. Martha Karua as our Guest Speaker. The meeting started at 6:20pm and was adjourned at 9:00pm; though members continue to network over a cup of coffee thereafter till 10:00pm
?
Our end of year meeting turned to be one of the best congregations of YPs this year, coupled with a very informative and brilliant presentation by Hon Martha Karua. She took us through 5 areas of contention that she feels us as young professionals should re-look at, make further discussions and make submission to COE.
?
The areas are
?
The executive
She first took us through various systems of government & how they work, the parliamentary system like one in US, presidential like one in US, and a hybrid like the French System. The current one that is proposed and the one we are running now close to hybrid system.
?
With the current one being proposed as a reaction to reduce or check presidential powers, she requested us to look further which is the best way to introduce that. It is through transferring some of the powers to the office of the Prime Minister which could result to two parallel centers of power or is it by having a very powerful parliament like in the USA where the president cannot make any major changes or policy without the approval of the congress?? Currently since we are having both offices, are you content with the way they are operating?
?
With powers being transferred to the office of PM who is elected by MPs & not universal suffrage, and knowing how easy it is for members of parliament to be manipulated through seduction, bribery or promises (she quipped the current parliament is the most corrupt of the 4 parliament she has been), unless changed, we might having moneyed people determine who runs the government.
?
She requested us to go to the internet and research more on how various governments around the world work.
?
The Legislature
The proposed parliament will have 2 houses, the Senate & the National assembly. Though good, she noted the size of the senate is yet not known since the numbers of counties are not known (Since the boundaries commission has not finished it work)
?
She said though the article is the Right to recall is widely supported, she isn?t happy with it in its current form, as should be made more stringent to avoid witch hunt by those who loose to make it to parliament. Two weeks after you have been elected to parliament and working hard, your opponents may already be collecting signatures to recall you. It should be made more stringent so that cases of recall can only be launched once there are substantial bases to do that.
?
Devolution.
?
With devolved government, we shall have 3 governments, the Parliament, the Regional governments the county governments. We are already complaining of bloated cabinet, do we have the resources to support all of the three levels of governments? & with the number of counties still unknown, we might end up with a bloated government which we might not sustain with the available resources. She requested us to do the mathematics to see the number the number of elected officers we shall have the average resources we will need in terms of salaries 7 other expenditures
?
Judicial System.
On the Kadhi court she requested us Christian to be tolerant. She was amazed that Kadhi court was one on the most hotly discussed topic in YP. She said since Kadhi courts have there in the constitution & never had any problem, why do we want to remove them. And how do you think our brother Muslim interpret or react to that. She however noted that if they remain as proposed in the draft constitution then the wording should be the same as the in the old constitution. She said the wording in the draft is different and we should reread & look at the finer details to avoid problems.
?
?
Here she said we can make improvements to ensure we have a more independent system. For example, with the judges being appointed/recommended by Judicial Service Commission composed of the members of the judicial system itself who may be appointed cronies of the power be, we should be have an external body, say an inspectorate composed as of for example the members of LSK, academia etc to have a say in appointment of judges to ensure integrity of the system.
?
?
?
?
Before she ended she reminded us the following.
?
A constitution however good will not be the only solution to take us forward. We also need to change our ethics, change our leaders, and end impunity even at the lowest level etc. She says even the current constitution could have taken us places only if the rule of law is observed. Do you know it says someone who alleged to have committed economic crime should not be appointed to cabinet? While 1/3 of the current cabinet have such cases?! Even we have a new constitution without a change of leaders who will respect it, we might not move forward. We need a new crop of leaders, a paradigm shift.
?
Did you know Britain doesn?t have a written constitution, yet it is one of the best run countries in the world?
?
She also requested us to use the vitality, creativity, innovativeness, the boldness and the risk-taking attitude/appetite of the youth to initiate initiatives to move the country forward. She said the older people are more conservative and therefore can not make drastic and tremendous changes or shift that is so critical for us revolution. So the challenge is left to us the young people.
?
Are we equal to the task, up to the challenge?
?
-- 
Regards
YP_Ke Group Moderator

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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
?
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/



-- 
Daniel Nyutu

Strategy Consultant
Strategic Leadership Center International
Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100
Nairobi, Kenya.
Tel: 3872252/ 3877637/ 2067622
Email: dnyutu at gmail.com
Cell: 0728-200075

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

Albert Einstein (Attributed)
US (German born) Physicist (1879-1955)

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
?
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/



      

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
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From inqwar at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 06:21:09 2009
From: inqwar at gmail.com (Dennis Inkwa)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:21:09 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] HELP FOR ACADEMIC RESEARCH AND THESIS WRITING
Message-ID: <a4479e6d0912040321u71b5127dwcbee3d19fbe0f8e2@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings Fellow YP's

We are an outsourcing, research and consultancy  firm based in Nairobi
that acts as a research assistant to students undertaking the MBA
program.

We understand that juggling between work, family and school is not the
easiest thing. We guide and help students through their projects and
in writing their proposals,researching for literature review, data
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This December , we have a 20% discount on all research services, with
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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/


From amenya.gibson at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 07:32:45 2009
From: amenya.gibson at gmail.com (amenya gibson)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 15:32:45 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Kenyan Voices to be heard at COP15 Climate Change
	Meeting-In Denmark-Copenhagen
Message-ID: <54e76b740912040432o6fb08428p70e0235117606438@mail.gmail.com>

Dear YPs

Kenya Young Greens have been privileged with support from various
groups and donors, will be sending 5 young people to attend the
Climate Change Forum in Denmark.
  3- gentlemen and 2- ladies
That is a great show and confidence that our supporters showed towards
Kenya Young Greens.
take a brief moment to read  how far we started to make this journey a
success and Here are views from Kenya Young Greens Vice -Chair

"It gives me great honour and privilege to write you on the eve of the
all important United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change
Fifteenth Conference of Parties meeting to be held in Copenhagen
Denmark from the 7th to the 18th of December 2009.
After a whole year of active lobbying with you and other youths from
all over the country, Kenya Young Greens is set to make a fitting case
for a just and fair climate deal arising out of the negotiations.
The road has not been easy. It all began with the Inaugural Youth
Forum on Climate Change held on the 5th of June 2009 to commemorate
the World Environment Day.

Here we gathered with over sixty youths to rally a call for a just and
fair equitable deal especially for Africa. What followed next was a
series of activism and awareness creation under the aegis of The Kenya
Climate Change Working Group where we toured all across the country
from Mombasa to Wajir Kakamega to Kitui, Nakuru to Nairobi letting
youths from all across the country share their experiences of the
impact of Climate Change upon their own lives and their communities.
We had the pleasure of having the award winning talented Cross over
Hip Hop Artist Juliani join us in this journey and it has been
remarkable.
Now time has come to take all these experiences and voices to world
leaders at Copenhagen. Kenya Young Greens and other youths will be
traveling to Copenhagen for this reason and I will be glad if i could
take with me more of your demands to the world leaders.

We have shouted RAUKA AMA HATUTA SURVIVE to our leaders, now its our
time to ask the leaders to NOT KILL KYOTO PROTOCOL and TO MAKE
CONCRETE EFFORTS TO COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE.
Let us not stop until our voices are heard from all the mountain tops.
I will be sure to keep you all posted and share more of what is going
on on the go each day from Copenhagen. Feel free to send me emails,
videos and whatever you can (provided not abusive or offensive) to our
world leaders and lets change the world because we can.

The rallying Call for us to President Obama is that Climate Change is
not the Change we can Believe in. He holds the crux to this whole
debate and only our voices can bring him to act.
Together in putting and end to Climate Change."
-- 
Stephen Mwakesi
Vice Chairperson, Kenya Young Greens
Convener, Organising Committee: National Youth Conference on Climate Change 2009
Cell: +254 723 229 117 / +254 773 80 40 41
Tel:  +254 (20) 3750329/3744427
Fax: +254 (20) 3749132
www.kenyayounggreens.org

Sent on
Behalf of Kenya Young Greens Executive Committee
Gibson Amenya
Cell +254-722-825417

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FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/


From njerikamau2007 at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  4 07:18:05 2009
From: njerikamau2007 at yahoo.com (Njeri Kamau)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 04:18:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] NAIROBIANS YP OUTING
In-Reply-To: <809147903CDE475383E78C91441B99F5@CCS.CO.UG>
Message-ID: <660116.63419.qm@web56203.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

i missed the gala night.

--- On Fri, 12/4/09, Jorum Odiemo <odiemo at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jorum Odiemo <odiemo at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] NAIROBIANS YP OUTING
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 1:48 AM



 
 
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I think this will be a good Idea especially for 
those of us who are out of the country and have missed all the 
others.
?
Me take
?
Jore

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Winfred Nyambura 
  To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:15 
  AM
  Subject: [YP_Ke] NAIROBIANS YP 
  OUTING
  

  
  Nairobians, 
  Is 
  there a nyamachoma/kanywanji/dance for NAIROBI YPs.? i.e. like end year 
  party or something of the sort. 
  -- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT 
  TODAY
?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 
  2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former 
  Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The 
  Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This 
  Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration 
  of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
  
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
  
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 
  7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards 
  >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to 
  youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
  
?
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & 
  part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/


-- 

FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

?

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 

DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 

TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 

GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 

TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

?

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 

Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 

Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 

Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 

Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 

Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 

Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

?

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 

254 721 663 208. 

?

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 

Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/




      

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
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From agostinhoon at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 07:38:23 2009
From: agostinhoon at gmail.com (neto agostinho)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 04:38:23 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Homestay Documentary
In-Reply-To: <136168.61056.qm@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Ongera, The Constant Gardener Trust. Working on the shores of Lake Turakan
and Kibera. www. constantgardener.org

On 12/4/09, PETER ONGERA <ongerapeter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   I am helping a British TV crew currently working on
> a new landmark documentary series about the growing number of British
> families putting day-to-day life on hold tosee the world with their
> children. Through the films they hope to highlight just how
> rewarding,educational and most importantly possible it is to go traveling
> with the kids.
> Our hope is that the programmes will inspire more parents thinking about
> this kind of trip to actually take the plunge and get involved around the
> world. We also want to highlight the positives of this kind of experience
> has on a family unit and the educational benefit for children. Each family
> would be left with a unique travel-log of their journey..
> The families that we are following are going to
> Kenya,Uganda,Ethiopia,Rwanda and Zambia.  Our hope is that the families will
> be able to find some local life and immerse within the local community,
> staying mostly clear of tourist areas,while doing volunteer work.
> The families are very keen for them to experience local life away from
> Western society.
> Please help me identify good hosts and projects to participate in the
> program.
>
> Peter Ongera
> *Social Entrepreneur and Consultant*
> *Skype:peter.ongera*
> www.africanhomestay.net
>
> *           LIVE ,STUDY and WORK in AFRICA
> *
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 12/4/09, Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Updates of Yesterday's LYP Meeting
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 5:48 AM
>
> Thanks Francis for the update.
>
>
> From the discussions yesterday, we agreed to firm up our views in light of
> the new enlightenment by Hon. Karua and forward them to the COE.
>
>
> Thus, i request we forward our comments to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com.
> All views will be collated and forwaded to the COE.
>
>
> Please do so within the next ten days so that we can beat the deadline.
>
>
> Dan.
>
>
> LYP Treasurer.
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Moderator YP_Ke <youngprofessionals.ke@
> gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Esteemed Members,
>>
>
>
> Here is a brief report of our LYP meeting yesterday with Hon. Martha Karua
> as our Guest Speaker. The meeting started at 6:20pm and was adjourned at
> 9:00pm; though members continue to network over a cup of coffee thereafter
> till 10:00pm
>
>
>
> Our end of year meeting turned to be one of the best congregations of YPs
> this year, coupled with a very informative and brilliant presentation by Hon
> Martha Karua. She took us through 5 areas of contention that she feels us as
> young professionals should re-look at, make further discussions and make
> submission to COE.
>
>
>
> The areas are
>
>
>
> *The executive*
>
> She first took us through various systems of government & how they work,
> the parliamentary system like one in US, presidential like one in US, and a
> hybrid like the French System. The current one that is proposed and the one
> we are running now close to hybrid system.
>
>
>
> With the current one being proposed as a reaction to reduce or check
> presidential powers, she requested us to look further which is the best way
> to introduce that. It is through transferring some of the powers to the
> office of the Prime Minister which could result to two parallel centers of
> power or is it by having a very powerful parliament like in the USA where
> the president cannot make any major changes or policy without the approval
> of the congress?  Currently since we are having both offices, are you
> content with the way they are operating?
>
>
>
> With powers being transferred to the office of PM who is elected by MPs &
> not universal suffrage, and knowing how easy it is for members of parliament
> to be manipulated through seduction, bribery or promises (she quipped the
> current parliament is the most corrupt of the 4 parliament she has been),
> unless changed, we might having moneyed people determine who runs the
> government.
>
>
>
> She requested us to go to the internet and research more on how various
> governments around the world work.
>
>
>
> *The Legislature*
>
> The proposed parliament will have 2 houses, the Senate & the National
> assembly. Though good, she noted the size of the senate is yet not known
> since the numbers of counties are not known (Since the boundaries commission
> has not finished it work)
>
>
>
> She said though the article is the Right to recall is widely supported, she
> isn?t happy with it in its current form, as should be made more stringent to
> avoid witch hunt by those who loose to make it to parliament. Two weeks
> after you have been elected to parliament and working hard, your opponents
> may already be collecting signatures to recall you. It should be made more
> stringent so that cases of recall can only be launched once there are
> substantial bases to do that.
>
>
>
> *Devolution.*
>
> * *
>
> With devolved government, we shall have 3 governments, the Parliament, the
> Regional governments the county governments. We are already complaining of
> bloated cabinet, do we have the resources to support all of the three levels
> of governments? & with the number of counties still unknown, we might end up
> with a bloated government which we might not sustain with the available
> resources. She requested us to do the mathematics to see the number the
> number of elected officers we shall have the average resources we will need
> in terms of salaries 7 other expenditures
>
>
>
> *Judicial System.*
>
> On the Kadhi court she requested us Christian to be tolerant. She was
> amazed that Kadhi court was one on the most hotly discussed topic in YP. She
> said since Kadhi courts have there in the constitution & never had any
> problem, why do we want to remove them. And how do you think our brother
> Muslim interpret or react to that. She however noted that if they remain as
> proposed in the draft constitution then the wording should be the same as
> the in the old constitution. She said the wording in the draft is different
> and we should reread & look at the finer details to avoid problems.
>
>
>
>
>
> Here she said we can make improvements to ensure we have a more independent
> system. For example, with the judges being appointed/recommended by Judicial
> Service Commission composed of the members of the judicial system itself who
> may be appointed cronies of the power be, we should be have an external
> body, say an inspectorate composed as of for example the members of LSK,
> academia etc to have a say in appointment of judges to ensure integrity of
> the system.
>
>
>
>
>
> * *
>
>
>
> Before she ended she reminded us the following.
>
>
>
> A constitution however good will not be the only solution to take us
> forward. We also need to change our ethics, change our leaders, and end
> impunity even at the lowest level etc. She says even the current
> constitution could have taken us places only if the rule of law is observed.
> Do you know it says someone who alleged to have committed economic crime
> should not be appointed to cabinet? While 1/3 of the current cabinet have
> such cases?! Even we have a new constitution without a change of leaders who
> will respect it, we might not move forward. We need a new crop of leaders, a
> paradigm shift.
>
>
>
> Did you know Britain doesn?t have a *written constitution*, yet it is one
> of the best run countries in the world?
>
>
>
> She also requested us to use the vitality, creativity, innovativeness, the
> boldness and the risk-taking attitude/appetite of the youth to initiate
> initiatives to move the country forward. She said the older people are more
> conservative and therefore can not make drastic and tremendous changes or
> shift that is so critical for us revolution. So the challenge is left to us
> the young people.
>
>
>
> Are we equal to the task, up to the challenge?
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
> YP_Ke Group Moderator
> --
> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
> call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
> Palmhouse
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Nyutu
>
> Strategy Consultant
> Strategic Leadership Center International
> Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100
> Nairobi, Kenya.
> Tel: 3872252/ 3877637/ 2067622
> Email: dnyutu at gmail.com<http://us.mc322.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dnyutu at gmail.com>
> Cell: 0728-200075
>
> "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
> different results"
>
> Albert Einstein (Attributed)
> US (German born) Physicist (1879-1955)
> --
> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
> call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
> Palmhouse
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>
> --
> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
> call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
> Palmhouse
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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From ibrahim.karani78 at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 07:39:16 2009
From: ibrahim.karani78 at gmail.com (Ibrahim karani)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 04:39:16 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Photocopy Issue
Message-ID: <2394eabc0912040439v7e30c053y29c6bc2259a8e8eb@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all.Can someone tell me the logic behind this.Photocopying an A4 page is
ksh.2 or Ksh 1.50. But you are charged ksh 5 or even Ksh 10 fo an I.D.

Ibrahim

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

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From mnkano at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 09:05:16 2009
From: mnkano at gmail.com (michael kano)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 17:05:16 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] HELP FOR ACADEMIC RESEARCH AND THESIS WRITING *
In-Reply-To: <-5777714036987198797@unknownmsgid>
References: <-5777714036987198797@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <5711aa90912040605o10b511edh5b786bcc615d95bf@mail.gmail.com>

how much do u guys charge because you have only indicated the discount rate
of 20%?


On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Dennis Inkwa <inqwar at gmail.com> wrote:

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> --
> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
> call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
> Palmhouse
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>
>

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY

VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.

Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 

Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 

Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
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From ibrahim.karani78 at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 09:57:49 2009
From: ibrahim.karani78 at gmail.com (Ibrahim karani)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 06:57:49 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
In-Reply-To: <755928.99704.qm@web31105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <936239.16910.qm@web57405.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<985346.27182.qm@web112101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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	<755928.99704.qm@web31105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2394eabc0912040657x6fbb95c9x848c485bc6964169@mail.gmail.com>

U are right Abu.These guys should come up with their own ''papal laws''(Laws
belonging to papa of Rome) and include them kwa hiyo katiba if they
want.Kadhis courts has never been an issue before.why now?I know majority of
xtians did not know of kadhis courts before this katiba thing.

Ibrahim

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:13 AM, abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Kip
>
> Perhaps out of yr ignorance u may not be aware that the constitutional is a
> basically based on Christian principles. For your information Kenyan laws
> are based on the British canon laws which are derived from Christian Judeo
> teachings. Just a simple example. Saturdays and Sundays are off work  days
> simply to allow Christians to go to church without any hassle.
> It is fair enough for Muslims to have a small portion of the law to
> safeguard their values after all this country is not only for Christians.
> Muslims have never come out to complain against the Christian doctrines in
> the constitution and it beats logic why some christians cannot tolerate a
> section which guarantees the rights of Muslims in the constitution.
> It is high time that the excuse that the courts are a way of gradually
> introducing the Shariah law in the constitution is done away with as it has
> no basis whatsoever. Even  before independence the kadhis courts were in
> existence and they did not elicit such complaints before. Perhaps those who
> are peddling the so-called Islamic agenda can enlighten us on this.
> The likes of kip are hiding behind hatred for islam and Muslims to spread
> the lies and disinformation on Islam. For Muslims-NO KADHIS COURTS NO
> CONSTITUTION!
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* sang kip <kipjsang at yahoo.com>
> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Thu, December 3, 2009 7:27:33 AM
> *Subject:* [YP_Ke] ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
>
> *RAMAH:*
> *Should Islamic way of life be enshrined in the constitution written for
> all Kenyans?! I think Islamic way of life is for Muslims only just
> as  Doctrines of the Christian Church are for Christians only.*
> *Islamic law and culture are Arabic and I see no sense in making them part
> of a constitution that is supposed to be secular and non-ethnic. If Kadhi
> Courts will be part of it then Christian Doctrines, ethnic cultures and
> superstitions should also be part if it.*
> *We are writing a constitution that will make all citizen equal regardless
> of religion, culture, gender, color and ability, etc. We writing a document
> that will favor all Kenyans equally.One that will not dictate matters of
> religion,exalt a groups above the rest, favor narrow interests or even
> subjugate some.*
> *When Muslims relently insist that Kadhi Courts should be in the
> constitution they are saying, albeit mutedly, that they are special and
> deserving special place in the constitution. When they say Kadhi
> Courts define Islam as  away of life we say the Bible does the same for
> Christians.*
> *Ramah, Muslims' need, if allowed,  will become one step towards Sharia
> Law. It will be like the proverbial Elephant who asked the farmer to allow
> one of Elephant's legs into the farmer's house to warm it.As time went on
> the Elephant demanded the other legs and the whole body  be accommodated
> too deposing the farmer and owning the  house  himself!*
> *The demand the Kadhi Court be included in the constitution is a game plan
> for future more demands which may destabilize the country.*
> *NO KADHI COURTS IN THE CONSTITUTION!*
> **
> **
> **
> **
> **
> **
>
> **
> **
>
> *
> *
>
> *
> ------------------------------
> From: RAMAH SALIM <kipkesar at yahoo.com>
> To: john kamau <jkorig at yahoo.com>
> Cc: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 2:55:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA* IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
>
>  John,
> I am Ramah and not Rahah.Please note Islam is not just a religion but a way
> of life,that is why we required a dispute mechanism that will cater for our
> way of life esp. on family matters.If Xtians ,hindus and all other faiths
> want such a thing let them go ahead and no muslim will reject.I am still
> waiting for your facts concerning the Kadhi Courts and how it infringes on
> your right/s as a xtian AND TO PROVE ALL THOSE LIES THAT ARE BEING PEDDLED.
>
> Ramah.s
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* john kamau <jkorig at yahoo.com>
> *To:* RAMAH SALIM <kipkesar at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Thu, December 3, 2009 11:34:54 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
>
>
> Rahah and those obsessed with this kadhi issue, please remember that Hindu,
> Christians and all other faith based institutions administer in mar rages,
> deaths, Inheritance and divorce too. They do not have to have their internal
> affairs enshrined in the National constitution to do this.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 12/2/09, RAMAH SALIM <kipkesar at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From: RAMAH SALIM <kipkesar at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
> > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> > Cc: jkorig at yahoo.com
> > Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 11:02 PM
> > John,
> > Stop peddling falsehoods.The courts are just to adminster
> > matters relating to inheritance and divorce for Muslims and
> > not criminal matters.Where does this affect you as a
> > christian? Please sober up and do not be misled by christain
> > fundamentalists.My challlege read the draft and come with
> > facts and not generalisatiosn you see on Televisions and
> > hear from enemies of Islam.
> >
> > Ramah.S
> >
> > From:
> > john kamau <>
> > To:
> > youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> > Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009
> > 5:08:07 AM
> > Subject:
> > Re:Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT
> > CONSTITUTION.
> >
> >
> > The muzungu Did, They put up a strong case to have the
> > Sultanate of Zanzibar  retain full autonomy from rules
> > governing other parts of the country after independece. Then
> > the coastal strip was under this chief slave trader.
> > He was a business associate of the west, for many years
> > trading with humans who if they happened to survive the
> > Beatings, Decease and other inhuman treatment, were sold to
> > the highest binder in the west mainly Americas. The current
> > day Negros.This is the man we now must hon-our by including
> > his wish in our constitution. most of us mainly our leaders
> > will sell their mother for a penny, that is why they find
> > nothing wrong with this Kadhi legacy. SHAME ON YOU.This is
> > 2010 fellers not 1810. Islam or Christianity are religions.
> > they should be treated as such  no more no less.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 12/1/09, jekambi at daystar.ac.ke
> >  <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: jekambi at daystar.ac.ke
> > <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
> > > Subject: Re:Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE
> > DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
> > > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 9:40 PM
> > > The whole constitution gives rights
> > > to all faith, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Traditionists,
> > etc
> > > X100, to freely worship in whichever way. All but one
> > has
> > > its rights stipulated in the unifying constitution,
> > WHY?
> > >
> > > Each of these groupings have own constitutions that
> >  help
> > > them run their affairs, only should they conflict with
> > the
> > > unifying constitution, then troubles begin. No one is
> > saying
> > > no to Khadhi courts being in some constitution, all we
> > are
> > > skeptical about is why in the main one. The reasoning
> > that
> > > the other religions have not asked, in not
> > intellectual and
> > > wise. These other religions have their holy books and
> > own
> > > written something. But they too have a right to fight
> > for
> > > their right. But what is ones right? Let?s be
> > reasonable
> > > and sober in this matter. The constitution is not
> > about us,
> > > it is about a Kenyan people, the posterity, and the
> > future.
> > >
> > > History is always the best focal point of reference.
> > No one
> > > is telling us how the Kadhi court came into being,
> > where
> > > they came from, and why they were include. No one is
> > telling
> > > us on its limits/boundaries. If we can get the
> > original
> > >
> >  Lancaster manuscript, honestly it will help. But for now,
> > > everybody is fighting, it must/it must not. These will
> > not
> > > get us moving. Books of authority are there, let?s
> > use
> > > them.
> > >
> > > The culture of tolerance, to me means, I respect the
> > > feelings of all and accommodate all. I must not have
> > my way,
> > > I should allow every body equally footing and chance.
> > Lets
> > > listen to every body, even children. Give all an
> > opportunity
> > > especially the future.
> > >
> > > It is not this is our thing, it must be there. NO
> > > NOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ekambi
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jasmey Aellah <jasmey at gmail.com>
> > > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com;
> > > Sent: Tuesday 12/1/2009 9:16:30 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT
> > > CONSTITUTION ...
> > >
> > > >Well said Abu, i am a Cristian but still cant help
> > the
> > > so called church's
> > > >dim view on Kadhi's court issue. Its every
> > > organization's aim to expand,
> > > >whats wrong with islam spreading its wings. Have
> > the
> > > radical preachers
> > > >stopped one moment to think and realise that there
> > is
> > > one God !! This is
> > > >worse than tribalism! There are Kenyan Muslims and
> > the
> > > freedom of worship
> > > >applies to all. Please stop hate campaign
> > > >
> > > >On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >  >>
> > > >> Simon
> > > >>
> > > >> The presentation you are circulating is part
> > of
> > > the lies and propaganda
> > > >> peddled by the a section of Christians who
> > are
> > > mainly radical evangelists
> > > >> against the Kadhis courts. Just to remind you
> > the
> > > so-called communique which
> > > >> is being pointed at is alleged to have been
> > ame in
> > > 1989 wheras the Kadhis
> > > >> courts were in existence even before there
> > was a
> > > single person in Kenya who
> > > >> adhere to the Christian faith.
> > > >>
> > > >> Secondly, yr presentation is nothing new.
> > Exactly
> > > the same information was
> > > >> peddled and circulated during the last
> > referendum
> > > to hoodwink Kenyans about
> > > >> the courts. This was accompanied by leaflets
> > > distributed in churches showing
> > > >> that  violence will break out
> >  if the Kadhi
> > > courts are incorporated in the
> > > >> constitution.
> > > >> For generations, the courts were in the
> > Kenyan law
> > > books and we never saw
> > > >> any of the so-called Abuja declarations
> > being
> > > incorporated nor violence btn
> > > >> Muslims and Christians as a result of the
> > courts.
> > > >>
> > > >> It is high time  that a culture of
> > tolerance
> > > was exhibited as contrary to
> > > >> these, we should not listen to such
> > characters who
> > > happen to create discord
> > > >> among the different Kenyan communities who
> > have
> > > lived in peace and harmony
> > > >> for generations.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Abu Ayman
> > > >> ------------------------------
> > > >> *From:* jekambi <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
> > > >>
> > > >> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> > > >> *Sent:* Tue, December 1, 2009 3:25:17 PM
> > > >> *Subject:* [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE
> > DRAFT
> > > CONSTITUTION OF KENYA
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Dear Brethren,
> > > >>
> > > >> Kindly read the attached PowerPoint
> > presentation
> > > and forward it to others.
> > > >> It will go a long way and possibly help to
> > save
> > > our country; remember that
> > > >> ?a stitch in time saves nine?.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> God bless you,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Simon
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >  >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >>   ------------------------------
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> > > >>
> > >
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> > > Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP.
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> > > Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP.
> > > TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs
> >  To
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> > TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To
> > Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also
> > Talk On the Mau Politics.
> >
> > Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> > Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
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> > Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
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> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
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> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
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> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>
>  --
> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
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>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
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> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>
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>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
> call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
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From kjmwangi at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 14:50:26 2009
From: kjmwangi at gmail.com (Kuria-Mwangi)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:50:26 -0500
Subject: [Jambo] [kca_main] Fwd: INVITATION TO A MEMORIAL AND FUNDRAISER
	FOR RHODA MAINA
In-Reply-To: <c17f6ba50912041045j37b2fce1g4937e3d91c9bc57f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c17f6ba50912041045j37b2fce1g4937e3d91c9bc57f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <543d04890912041150u27becd0q9cdbe09a215a1478@mail.gmail.com>

Wams,
Thanks for the forward. I spoke to Rhoda's father (Ken Maina) a few hours
ago. They are my relatives and we come from the same village. The body will
be shipped home and he will travel with his family. That calls for
assistance to the family meet the travel and burial expenses. Whatever we
can afford. The emails gives details on where to send the mchango. For those
wishing to send checks/money, the address again is

*Ken and Rachel Maina
113 Summer** **Crossing,
Atlanta GA 30350*

Bank account details for those who would like to write a cheque or wire are:





*Ken Maina*

*Danson Maina*

*Bank*

*Wachovia Bank*

*Bank of America*

*Routing Number*

*061000227*

*061000052*

*Account Number*

*1010258758504*

*334026367870*

*Address*

*Atlanta**, GA. 30350*

*Atlanta**, GA. 30350*

Ken Maina (678-862-3140)



>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: ReachoutandTouch1 at comcast.net <ReachoutAndTouch1 at comcast.net>
> Date: Dec 3, 2009 11:44 PM
> Subject:
> To: Violet Nyaga <violet_12_1999 at yahoo.com>
>
>
>    - [image: Rhoda.jpg]Rhoda.jpg<http://us.mc367.mail.yahoo.com/mc/showMessage?filterBy=&.rand=472107609&midIndex=15&mid=1_8356930_AClVv9EAAJeRSxfdkQtxWTaFtZI&m=1_8359430_ACZVv9EAABOTSxgQXgzZv29LJto%2C1_8358932_AChVv9EAARLsSxgOmw0jr1KrnCQ%2C1_8364628_ACZVv9EAAKMVSxhTxgrvf0%2FdH2c%2C1_8358253_AChVv9EAADgWSxfwewAsHXgWdb8%2C1_8357578_ACVVv9EAAX2WSxfmVwpOYyEYxC8%2C1_8356930_AClVv9EAAJeRSxfdkQtxWTaFtZI%2C1_8356443_ACRVv9EAAXDdSxfVpgsWkjbJNu8%2C1_8354842_AClVv9EAAWFmSxeMOQPFUWqYplo%2C1_8355612_ACdVv9EAAVfLSxeMSwxHPSyx87U%2C1_8354031_AClVv9EAAQ%2FhSxd%2BUAbEnzijUPA%2C1_8353386_AClVv9EAAG7aSxdsZgfqNUP0NV0%2C&sort=date&order=down&startMid=0&pSize=50&.jsrand=4224905&acrumb=MCxHhjh2HEL&enc=auto&cmd=msg.scan&pid=2&tnef=&fn=Rhoda.jpg>
>
>
>
> *INVITATION TO A MEMORIAL AND FUNDRAISER FOR RHODA MAINA*
>
>
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> This is to invite you for a fundraiser in aid of Rhoda Maina who went to be
> with the Lord on December 1, 2009.
>
> Rhoda was 26 years old, daughter to Ken and Rachel Maina of Dunwoody, GA.
> She was suffering from autoimmune diseases
>
> known as Lupus/Scleroderma which caused her body to attack itself,
> targeting her digestive system.
>
> As per her wishes, her family will be accompanying her to Kenya on December
> 14, 2009 to lay her to rest.
>
>  Because of the huge financial requirement, her family is now calling on
> relatives, friends and people of good will to support
>
> them in meeting the expenses.
>
> We hereby humbly invite you to a memorial service and a fund raising event
> for Rhoda on *Sunday, December 06, 2009 from 2.00 pm* at:-
>
>
> *Christ Harvester?s Church Int?l, Marietta, GA      (CHMI ? ApostleKaranja?s Church)
> *
>
> *4341 Dallas Hwy**, Marietta, GA 30064**.*
>
> Family and friends will be meeting daily at the Maina's home (*113 Summer*
> * **Crossing, Atlanta GA 30350)* from 6:30pm to 9:00pm.
>
> Bank account details for those who would like to write a cheque or wire
> are:
>
>
>
>
>
> *Ken Maina*
>
> *Danson Maina*
>
> *Bank*
>
> *Wachovia Bank*
>
> *Bank of America*
>
> *Routing Number*
>
> *061000227*
>
> *061000052*
>
> *Account Number*
>
> *1010258758504*
>
> *334026367870*
>
> *Address*
>
> *Atlanta**, GA. 30350*
>
> *Atlanta**, GA. 30350*
>
> Ken Maina (678-862-3140)
>
> *         ** *
>
> Donations can also be taken to Maina's home.
>
>
>
> Before she passed, Rhoda had written these notes sometimes back:
>

Hello good people,

I hope you are all doing well in this New Year. Unfortunately I am not. As
most of you know I have struggled with my health for a couple of years now
but have managed to be pretty stable for most of the time. However, in the
past year my condition has deteriorated greatly. What happens with
autoimmune diseases such as Lupus/Scleroderma which is what I have is that
the body attacks itself & can target any organ. For me it has been my
digestive system. Last year I was hospitalized 6 to 7 times due to severely
inflamed intestines. As a result I have lost a lot of weight and my body is
unable to absorb nutrients. In addition, I am barely able to eat because of
severe nausea and pain- an inflamed digestive system simply cannot be able
to cope with the enormous task of digesting food. I'm very weak and it is
urgent that I get relief soon otherwise I might have to be put on a feeding
tube to ensure I am getting nutrition. This is a daunting prospect for me; I
would hate to find myself in that place.

My last hospitalization was about 2 weeks ago and upon discharge my doctor
told me that the condition of my stomach is so bad that it actually alarms
her. This was a very low point for me because she offered no solution. After
talking to my closest friends they encouraged me not to give up but to look
for alternative treatments. I managed to find a clinic right here in Atlanta
that combines both comprehensive and alternative medicine to stabilize the
immune system. They would also administer intravenous nutrition- vitamins?
and supplements which would alleviate the deficiencies I am currently
experiencing- anemia, low iron, low potassium and magnesium to name a few. I
am confident that this treatment would be very beneficial to me.

However, as you can imagine it is very pricey and not covered by the
sub-standard insurance I currently have. I desperately need your help and
support to enable me to seek this treatment.  My parent?s have been amazing
through the years and bore the financial burden mostly single handedly. Some
of you may remember I have been to South Africa twice and Britain for
treatment even before we moved to the US .  In addition, my mum is only able
to work part time right now due to the demands of my poor health. This is
why we came up with the idea to ask you- my friends and friends of my
friends to help us in this effort. They have also reached out to their
friends and we believe we can reach our goal if we all lend a hand.



Here in the US I have the support of my 3 amazing girlfriends who came up
with this idea and who have managed to see me through my darkest hours- they
literally would not let me give up!! I thank God for them every chance I
get. You can get in touch with either me or any one of them if you have any
questions or anything. Anne Muriithi will inform you on the treatment costs
and give you information on how to make your donation. I thank you for
taking time to read this and for your continued love, prayers, support and
encouragement. I praise God even in the midst of this storm for I know he
will see me through. God bless you all and I wish for you a fantastic year.



Love,

Rhoda Maina.

Rhoda28maina at yahoo.com

404 936 1421.



Rhoda will be receiving treatment at the Covenant Health Clinical based in
Atlanta GA.  The Covenant Health Clinic strives to treat medical concerns
from a natural perspective with the least toxic, and invasive and most
beneficial means possible.

Rhoda will without a doubt benefit from the integrated approach to health
that is embraced at the Covenant Health Clinic. The professionals at the
clinic understand the underlying causes of Lupus/ Scleroderma, and utilize
integrated medical evaluation and treatment protocols that are not found in
numerous medical facilities around the world. Additionally, the clinic
utilizes state of the art clinical evaluation and laboratory testing
methods, both conventional and complimentary tests.

Rhoda?s treatment ranges from $10,000 - $12,000, for a three month
treatment, excluding any prescribed out of clinic medications. Depending on
her initial response, the treatment protocol maybe repeated for another
$10,000- $12,000. We therefore need to offer all and any help we can to make
this treatment available to our dear sister.

For our dear friends in America , Miss Rhoda?s bank information, mailing
address and the Covenant Clinic?s website are listed below:



 Account number: Rhoda W Maina

                             Wachovia Bank, Atlanta GA

                       Account number:  3000101408074

                       Routing number: 061000227



 Mailing Address: 113 summer crossing, Atlanta GA 30350



Clinic website- www.covenanthealthclinic.com



Anne Muriithi,

nyamzz at gmail.com<http://us.mc365.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nyamzz at gmail.com>


For our brothers and sisters in Kenya who would like to help Rhoda, please
get in touch with either one of the following contacts:

Evelyn Mudachi    emudachi at yahoo.com        0721 898063

Danny   Maina      dannywmaina at yahoo.com  0770 211040



Miss Rhoda Wanderwa Maina is a woman who possesses immaculate qualities
suitable enough for a Nobel Prize, she is always filled with love for
others, charisma and determination with a strong devotion for family,
friends and hard work. I can recall times when I was at my lowest and
Rhodalifted my spirits with the kindest and wisest words, in spite of
the
disability that she herself was enduring. Her positive attitude and charming
nature makes you appreciate life even more. Rhoda?s faith in Christ is
inspiring even for any non believers.



She is a goodwill ambassador whose selflessness and devotion for others is
priceless. Rhoda is the kind of person who puts others first without any
expectations.

In spite of her physical hardship, Rhoda still pursues her hobbies such as
reading at favorite caf? shops such as Barnes and Noble and shopping at chic
boutiques such as Forever 21 which shows off her great fashion sense.



Rhoda is currently pursuing a Bachelors Degree in Psychology at Argosy
University , GA. and in spite of the setbacks due to her physical condition,
she chose to pursue a blended course where she goes to class and studies
online. Rhoda has been in and out of hospital, in fact, six times in 2008
alone, this has not damped her spirits and thirst for education. She
maintains the notion of importance that a college education brings and even
aims to get her Masters Degree thereafter, which is even more admirable but
unsurprising to those who know her.



The idea to start a fund to help Rhoda was not hers but that of her family
and friends who care so much for her, and would not let her give up because
of the financial implications. Simply put, it is an idea that came to mind
with no hesitation because of how dear and empowering she is to us all.
Together we can make a difference in her life by working together to raise
what is monetarily needed to support our dearest sister.




Nkatha Kathurima- Oshuntuyi,

sheila_kathurima at yahoo.com<http://us.mc365.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sheila_kathurima at yahoo.com>



I have known Rhoda since I was six years old, but we never saw eye to eye
those days; lots of primary school politicsJ. We ended up meeting again in
high school when we were made desk mates, it was awkward at first since we
had been in different clicks from primary school (LOL) but we soon got over
it. We have been close ever since, I believe we were destined to be friends.
She is my sister from my other mother; we always have each other to lean on,
although she tends to be the smarter and more rational one.



I can't even begin to describe all her qualities coz it would take too long
but one word to describe her is, incredibly strong (I couldn?t even pick one
word). She has been through so much; I can only imagine how tough it has
been for her and her family. Amazingly, she has remained positive through it
all, sometimes I talk to her and she ends up encouraging me when it should
be the other way around. I always tell her that she is the strongest person
I know, and with every challenge she faces she reminds me what an
extraordinary person she really is and how blessed I am to have her in my
life.

I am very excited about this new course of treatment; I really believe that
it will make her feel a lot better. She has always been there for me and
this is my chance to be there for her in whatever capacity I can. I pray
that you will find it in your hearts to join us in helping improve Rhoda's
health and ultimately improve her life.



Tanya Ranguma.

tanyar at temple.edu



It takes a village to raise a child is a maxim often quoted and has remained
true over the ages. The belief that a child is the community?s
responsibility is the vein by which the African family has thrived. In much
the same manner, we are charged with being our brother?s keeper ? and in
this case, our sister, Rhoda?s keeper. Often we ask what we can do to make a
significant difference in this lifetime and we long for purpose. I believe
the opportunity has presented itself and we are left with the charge to join
together and partner in Rhoda?s road to full recovery and healing. We are
charged with taking on this tangible opportunity on the fore front and BE
the difference because in so doing we will MAKE a difference.



Scripture clearly states in Hebrews 11:1 that ?now faith is the substance of
things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen? ? faith is a present state
and must be exercised in the now. As we exercise our faith God?s power is
revealed ? it is amazing what a committed community can achieve ? let?s try
it! Let?s go for it! Let?s reach for this goal to raise the funds required
for her care! We can do it!



May we perceive this obstacle as an opportunity after all, ?we are all faced
with a series of great opportunities brilliantly disguised as obstacles? -
Charles Swindoll

Christine Kathurima,

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From harrison.macharia at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 14:24:54 2009
From: harrison.macharia at gmail.com (Harrison Macharia)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 20:24:54 +0100
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Dr Mwangi's of Equity Bank email contacts
In-Reply-To: <1259936367.4b191a6fcbdfe@www.skyweb.co.ke>
References: <1259936367.4b191a6fcbdfe@www.skyweb.co.ke>
Message-ID: <f783ed5f0912041124p1d3e8819s65f2cf13cf90cda5@mail.gmail.com>

Paul,
Sorry for your fruitless effort with the Ops Manager of Equity.I once had
issues with them and they treated me badly but i changed my game plan on
then, and won Dr Mwangis attention and he refeeed me to his Swift manager
called Mr Miriti,  who attended to my issues and  moved me to cooporate
segment.
So look 4 mr miriti @ the swift section and he will be of much help

Harrison

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:19 PM, <paul at jadecom.co.ke> wrote:

> Hey Young Professionals,
>
> Does anybody on this forum work for equity bank, and have Dr.Mwangi's email
> details or any of their senior management.
>
> I have repeatedly communicated with the operations manager at their
> Harambee
> avenue branch, who promises to call back neither does he bother to do so.A
> visit
> to the office and he had me waiting while talking on the phone or doing
> other
> things(Was completely  disappointed by his attitude).
>
> Well,l may have to close an account there by Monday and move it elsewhere
> if
> nobody responds to me.The account is an organizational one for an upcoming
> Magazine,which will support upto 68 needy people who we will engage as our
> vendors.
>
> Anybody Help.
>
> Paul
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From jbatec at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  4 15:28:09 2009
From: jbatec at yahoo.com (Judy Miriga)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:28:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Important Politicians value Women of substance in
	Power
Message-ID: <522486.70923.qm@web57310.mail.re1.yahoo.com>





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For Press Release
?
?
Women in Power from Ancient Egyptian Rule kept the Egyptian Empire going?steadfastly and progressively in prosperity?for 3500 years.? This boosted and uplifted development in Communication, Transportation, Water and for Food which were the fundamental essential Infrastructure at the time.? 
?
"Fostering Development in an Era of Financial Economic and crises", is designed for people to develop New thinking ideas needed to tackle the challenges and promote development. "Today, Africa is at the crossroads of development strategies. As we seek to re-start growth, we should also look at how this growth can generate employment and improve living conditions in Africa," these include unequal distribution of income and high levels of poverty, weak governance, lack of diversification, ineffective use of natural resources and environmental?climate change. "We need to work together in partnership identify policy options that will help Africa face up to the challenges in partnership with people from Government, Institutions of learning, policy makers, Business and Trading along with other NGO development practitioners. We must seek to design interventions appropriate to country circumstances that provide genuine development." 
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Kenya and Africa falling apart (in Global Economic Instability) could turn disasterous when women are not?included and?recognized?at planning level and where?women's tit bits are not included in preliminary planning at decision making level in Parliament?through Women-Led Organizations so that Women can take charge of their opinion and ideas?in?decision making?frontline?while organizing Civil Society for development at Local Village Community and forwarding through Commissioning CAUCUS Representation at the Parliament.?? 
? 
We are sending signals for appeal to African leadership and other stakeholders of the World to consider?incorporating Women-Led Civil Society Partnership for Development?in the Mainstream Government?for Policy Structure in Constitution Making.? Women-Led Civil Society?Organizations have a lot at stake and should be given a?chance to participate in Parliamentary Caucus Commision so Women-Led Organization can represent a voice for reason for development programs.? 
? 
In the case of Kenya, this caption should be considered in the Harmonized Draft Constitution of Kenya to include additional No. (4) "Civil Society Partnership for Development" should incorporate a strong qualifier (adjective) endorsement in the Constitution under the Chapter One, "Sovereignty of the People and Supremacy of the Constitution", IN ALL MATTERS OF DEVELOPMENT, where Women-Led Civil Society may exercise their sovereign power?in Partnership to the Government or otherwise, either directly or through their CAUCUS Representation Organization in Parliament. 
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I therefore ask all women of the World to support?this idea proposal so we can save the world from perishing.? I must state that, all Nations of the World is a BRANCH of the UNIVERSE, and that Women as Leaders for development?should be considered as Partners for Development within the Mainstream Government and the world.?? 
? 
As people of African Orient, we are tired watching things fall apart,?and of being candidates of victims of rape, torture?and of being marshaled into concentration makeshift politically motivated camps.? This is demeaning and inhuman.? We are bearing the brunt of loosing our beloved children from one such cold blooded political?massacre?including environmental destruction scenarios which are carelessly spearheaded by such politicians who dont think of tomorrow.?Domestically, majority of African women live under harsh conditions of brutality from frustrated husbands, yet?some are abandoned with their children by their husbands and are left to survive by the Grace of God.? This condition?create inner anguish which eat away the family and destroy the domestic unity of the family, which after the crack,?mother and her children degenerate into hopelessness?and the girl child in many cases choose to perish in painful silence, never wanting to get
 married. ?We have paid a big price enough to put a stop at this crazy mentality and we now?demand to be a voice of reason in decision making corridors.? We want to be heard so we can save lives we painfully bring to this world.? It pains us to see our offspring perish in such wanting careless behavior. 
? 
We believe all lives, small or big, white, black, red, or blue are valuable without degrading or discrimination of Tribal, Clan or Race.? They are all of extreme value to us women.?All people must be given?honor of Human Dignity, whether poor or rich, the people must?be given a chance to survive honorably to their fullest ambition in life.?This will create an organized competition to achieve and create a better world where dialogue is the key substance to determine a worthy livelihood as purposed by God. 
? 
For Example: If you fail to maintain, grease or refurbish your industrial plant unit, it falls apart and ceases to function.? There?will be no way possible, whether by science or osmosis, an engineer can?manufacture industrial production plant?for Humanity of?any Women-kind once women perish from the earth.? It is possible women will perish under such severe conditions that prevail under these harsh political maneuvers in Africa.? As a matter of fact, however the shift of?human behavior in life take effects, marriage between a man and a woman remain symbolically to be of essence to human dignity, value and virtue for existence and for reproduction.?It is one aspect part of Environmental concern that are in conflict which require preservation. ?Therefore, women must be given priority of care and recognition in matters of development, considering they have to produce natural healthy human-milk for the young ones after birth, including painstaking
 details of child growing up. Women are considered important species for life upon Creation and should not be subjected under these present harsh realities invoked by our uncaring African Politicians.? 
? 
These are some of the reasons we do not want our offspring running amok from their responsibilities in the future, so we must do something today to?strive to improve situation by taking charge to glamour?our children?future now.? We must preserve the genesis of human life so our offspring?s do not change to go the wrong way or make a reverse to choose not to marry, since it was God?s pre-condition to living a worthy valuable long life order.??For this case, we must consequently however, DEMAND to be heard.? Institution of marriage is a?fundamental base for humanity survival and must be protected and preserved. There is no short-cut?but that women in like mind, should step forward to join in the campaign for women inclusion in decision level of the world and to be heard. 
? 
In other words, we are informing the world, we are moving on to?form a T section?impact starting from?Africa.? The picture is forming from across South Africa Lesotho to Tunisia and from Kenya to Guinea Bissau we are in a Mission for transformation with?an?Aim to preserve humanity against hursh reality on Human Survival and Climate disaster.? Africa's present condition is a prescription to World Disaster, and all must get involved. We expect to receive Global support from all men of goodwill to join with us to make this worthy project a reality. 
? 
To achieve Love, Peace, Unity as well as Sustainable Development?including environmental preservation, women must be heard and be included in planning and implementation processes at their local level through Civil Society Organization.? This is a New Outline Vision for Economic Development. When people are driven to extreme poverty, they became conditionally subjected to play a part?in environmental destruction in large scale. 
? 
I am sending this message globally to be looked into and to also reach recipient of The United Nations Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen so to prevent destruction of climate disaster to future generation by funding women in their Civil Society Caucus? separately as partners for development and?environmental preservation.?This will add value to New Way Forward to sustainable development and job creation to improve workforce development in our midst. 
? 
Sincerely, 

?
?
Judy Miriga 
Diaspora Spokesperson 
Executive Director
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc., 
USA 
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com
?
?
There is plenty of issues, share in?this 2 videos.........
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Zz_kk9SkI
Water from a rock 03/10/09
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3GxMFyemIo
Hippo Menace

http://www.pbs.org/empires/egypt/newkingdom/women_power.html
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Click on the image for a gallery viewThe high level of respect for women made Egyptian society unusual for its time. Women in the royal household could become especially influential. 

Egyptian society was used to women ruling as co-regents until their sons came of age. Ahhotep ruled Egypt during its darkest days while she waited for her son, Ahmose, to reach adulthood. More unusually, the female pharaoh, Hatshepsut successfully ruled for some 20 years. 

First among equals 

Unlike other Egyptians, pharaohs were polygamous - they had more than one wife, but just one principal queen. She was the wife whose male children were acknowledged as the pharaoh's heirs. 

Although Egyptian queens previously enjoyed very little power, the situation changed dramatically during the New Kingdom period. Instead of just bearing children, the principal queen became an essential part of her husband's reign. Any attempt to rule without a consort became an offence against Maat, the divine order of the universe. 

Wifely duties 

Like any dutiful wife, an Egyptian queen was expected to support her husband. She had a variety of religious and political duties that reinforced the position of the royal family. 







Click on the image for a gallery viewFor example, Queen Tiy, wife to Amenhotep III, may have been born a commoner but was soon corresponding with foreign princes as an equal. Similarly, Queen Nefertiti was a full participant in religious ceremonies honoring Aten, the sun god. 

Independent woman 

Queens were also given estates, which provided them with financial independence. This enabled them to commission their own monuments and even develop their own religious symbols. These were designed to remind the people that their queen was close to being a god: a crown of tall feathers, for example, indicated links with the gods Min, Amen and Re. 

Some pharaohs made the link more obvious. Amenhotep III and Ramesses the Great each built temples for their principal queens, Tiy and Nefertari. The temples were dedicated to them, so the two pharaohs and their consorts were worshipped as gods - a lasting tribute to loving partners. 


Where to Next:
Women in the New Kingdom
Pharaohs - Hatshepsut
Women in Power - Nefertari
Women in Power - Nefertiti 


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Ancient Egypt 










Egyptian women were highly respected
The position of women in the New Kingdom was based on a unique combination of ancient tradition and modern sophistication. 

The opportunities available to most women were limited by centuries of tradition and deeply held religious beliefs. 

But women also had legal and financial rights that were remarkably modern and sophisticated. This was in marked contrast to the customs in other cultures during the same period. 

Know your place 

Egyptian society was highly structured: a woman's social position was largely defined by the status of her father and husband. According to 'Maat', the Egyptian view of the order of the universe, it was definitely a man's world. 

Only men were allowed to work in the government, so only they could hold real power. But high ranking women - for example, the wife, mother or daughter of an important politician - exerted a lot of covert influence. 

Women in power 

Very occasionally, a woman ruled in her own right. For example, Ahhotep ruled while her son, Ahmose, was still growing up and Hatshepsut even became pharaoh. But she still needed to rely on the reputation of her late father and had to pretend he'd nominated her as his successor. 

Outside the royal family, women were allowed to take paid work. Some wives helped out their husbands with farm work, while others weaved for extra money. Records from the village of Deir el-Medineh show that some women bartered surplus supplies. 

A woman's place 

Few women actually worked outside the home as it was frowned on. While their husbands and fathers held down jobs, the main role of Egyptian women was to look after the home and the children. 

As there was no contraception, women would have spent much of their life either pregnant or breastfeeding. This, along with the housework, would have left little time for other work. 

Equal before the law 

Yet women enjoyed extensive legal rights. Egyptian culture recognized a wife as her husband's closest companion. In fact, wives were seen as so important that it was an offence against Maat for a pharaoh to rule without one. 

As her husband's closest companion, an Egyptian wife was allowed to represent him in his business affairs. They were equal to men before the law and legally responsible for their actions. Women could be named in legal contracts, attend court on their own, bring lawsuits, and even own or rent property under their own name. 

Financial independence 

Egyptian law gave every child an equal inheritance. Although most women were too poor to own anything other than a cooking pot and some clothes, this meant some women were quite rich and financially independent. 

For these women, life was good and many were very cultured. They might own land or have monuments in their name, and they had access to makeup. This involved grinding minerals to make a paste. Ground serpentine made a green eye shadow, while others blacked kohl around the eyes or mixed red ochre and animal fat to produce lip paint and rouge. 

Ancient and modern 

Early pregnancy tests told them when they were expecting a child. If a pregnant woman urinated on wheat and barley, her hormones would cause both to bud. It was extremely accurate and the idea isn't much different from pregnancy tests today. 

Once pregnant, women wore amulets honoring the pregnant god Taweret to help them in childbirth. This sums up life for Egyptian woman - a strange mix of the very traditional and the surprisingly modern. They were limited by their gender, but they were also highly respected. Most remarkable, were the legal rights and responsibilities they held. Western women would not achieve these for another 4,000 years. 


Where to next: 
Women in power 
Religion in the New Kingdom 

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*Things to Know

The Nile-The Gift of the Nile
The Nile is the world's longest river. Egypt is basically a desert, part of the great Sahara Desert. However, near the Nile River, the land is very moist and fertile. Every year, the snow in the mountains of East Africa would melt, sending a torrent of water that would overflow the banks of the Nile. When it flooded each year, the river left behind a layer of rich, dark mud on the fields. This made the soil richer and made farming easier.
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The Nile River was the center of Egyptian life. The Egyptian people lived on the fertile lands along the Nile. A Greek traveler called this area ?the gift of the Nile.?
Natural borders protected Ancient Egypt from invaders. The land beyond the Nile River Valley is a desert, to attack Egypt the invaders would have to go through all the deserts to reach Egypt. The Mediterranean Sea was a good protection against attacks on Egypt. Not many people ventured into the sea before 1500B.C.E., so the Mediterranean Sea formed a natural border. Egypt was not invaded by the sea until Napoleon in the nineteenth century.
There were 3 classes in Egyptian society: upper, middle, and lower. It also had slaves. Usually only the upper-class boys could go to school. Some middle-class and lower-class boys learned carpentry or pottery making, but most became farmers like their fathers. The girls learned skills from their mothers. The Egyptians worshipped many gods, and the king, called the pharaoh, was considered a living god on earth.
There were 3 periods of importance in Ancient Egypt's history:

The Old Kingdom(about 2700-2200 B.C.E)
The rival kingdoms of Upper and Lower Egypt were united by a king named Menes, who established his capital at Memphis.
During the Old Kingdom Egyptian culture and commerce flourished, and the great pyramids were built.

After a period of decay, Egypt entered the First Intermediate Period, a time of strife, instability and famine.
Middle Kingdom(about 2050 to 1800 BCE.)
With the establishment of the Middle Kingdom, with its capital at Thebes, Egypt grew wealthier and had more trade with other countries.
Then weak rulers allowed the country to pass under the rule of foreign nomads, known as the Hyksos.
The New Kingdom(about 1600 to 1100 BCE)
The New Kingdom was established and Ancient Egypt became a strong power and built its empire.
Pyramid building was pretty much abandoned in favor of secret tombs that were not as obvious to tomb robbers.
Instead, the pharaohs directed their building projects towards temples and monuments to themselves, such as Abu Simbel built by Ramsess II and the Temple of Karnak, which was continuously built up for centuries.
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These monuments and discoveries such as the finding of Tutankhamun's tomb in 1922 makes this one of the most well known periods of Pharaonic Egyptian history.
Egypt came increasingly under foreign domination, with periods of rule by Libya, Sudan, Assyria, Nubia, and Persia. Following a brief reestablishment of native power in 405 BCE., Egypt fell without a struggle to Alexander the Great in 332 BCE. After Alexander's death Egypt was inherited by his general, Ptolemy, who founded the dynasty of Ptolemies and under whom the new city of Alexandria. The Ptolemies maintained a formidable empire for more than two centuries until, weakened by internal dynastic disputes, Egypt fell to Rome in 30 BCE. Christianity was readily accepted in Egypt, which became part of the Byzantine Empire about 395 CE. With the Arab conquest (639-42) Egypt became an integral part of the Muslim world.
Pharaohs

Ancient Egypt was ruled by pharaohs, whom the Egyptians believed were both a god and a monarch. Egypt was ruled by many pharaohs, but a few stand out.
Nefertiti: Queen of Egypt
Akhenaton was a monotheistic pharaoh who ruled with his queen, Nefertiti. Nefertiti supported her husband's religious reforms, changing to worship of Aten, the sun god. Akhenaten and Nefrititi forbade their subjects to worship any other gods but Aten. They built great statues to Aten and ordered that statues honoring any other god be destroyed. Most Egyptians did not take the faith of their leaders, and after their death, statues of Aten were destroyed.
Tutankhamun became pharaoh when he was 9 years old and he died of a head injury when he was 18 years old. King Tut's tomb remained intact and buried by rock chips until it was discovered in 1922 by British archaeologist Howard Carter. 
Seven Egyptian queens were known as Cleopatra, but the most famous was the last; Cleopatra VII. Cleopatra was of Greek heritage and culture, one of the Ptolemy line set on the throne of Egypt after the conquest of Alexander the Great. She had great intelligence and charisma, and she used both to further Egypt's political aims.
Field Museum-Cleopatra
The Rosetta Stone

The ancient Egyptians were a great mystery until scientist deciphered hieroglyphics. In 1799 a troop of French soldiers found a stone near the city of Rosetta with hieroglyphic and Greek inscriptions.
We can read hieroglyphics today because of the Rosetta Stone and French archaeologists Jean Champollion.
Before Champollion, many archeologists made attempts to decipher hieroglyphic symbols, but failed due to the lack of knowledge of Semitic and oriental languages. Jean Champollion spent more than 20 years of work translating the Egyptian writing into Greek.
Jean Champollion made it possible to understand hieroglyphics, and unlocked many of the mysteries of ancient Egyptian civilization.
Some of the Ancient Egyptians greatest achievements were:

The great pyramids
The invention of hieroglyphics
The creation of a calendar with 365 days
The invention of paper made from papyrus
The creation of a written history.
*Things to Do

Art
Upper and Lower Egypt United
The Ancient Egyptian double crown was created by combining the white crown of Upper Egypt with the red crown of Lower Egypt. Using magazines have children create new symbols for a modern unification by combining the logos of competitors.
Some company suggestions:
General Motors & Ford Motor Company, Pepsi & Coke, Apple & Microsoft
Make a Pyramid
Need: sugar cubes
Have children make classroom displays of pyramids using sugar cubes.
Make a beaded necklace
Men and women wore beaded necklaces, bracelets, and anklets. Supply children with wooden colored beds and yarn or small rope. Let children thread beads onto yarn to make colorful necklaces.
To make your own beads:
Need: food coloring, 3 cups flour, 2 cups salt, 2 cups cornstarch, 1 1/2 cups hot water, pencils, bowls, yarn.
Invite children to examine beads and necklaces. Explain that people in some cultures make beads by rolling mud into balls, poking holes in them, and drying them in the sun. Ask children to describe some favorite beads that they may have seen and invite them to tell you about how they might have been made.
Together, mix the flour, cornstarch, salt, and hot water. Knead until it forms a dough, adding more flour or water to adjust consistency. Divide the dough into several pieces and tint each with a different food coloring.
Pinch off a small amount of dough, roll it between the palms of your hands, and poke pencil through the ball to make a bead. Let children experiment with different sizes and shapes of dough.
Children can place their beads in bowls to dry, occasionally turning them over. Beads can be strung when they are completely dry.
Braid a necklace or anklet
Supply children with colorful yarn, embroidery thread, and plastic twine. Children can braid several pieces of the yarn, etc. to create beautiful bracelets and anklets.
Egyptian Makeup
Supply children with a variety of face paints and let them experiment with small brushes to apply make up the way Egyptians did.
Egyptian clothing.
Interesting Facts: Children and servants were naked except for earrings. Children shaved their heads except for a side-lock of hair. Children carried copper mirrors.
Egyptian clothing
Have children bring in old cloth and pieces of material from home. Cut and wrap to create skirts, shifts, and kilts. Can glue on a outline drawing of a person.
Cooking/Snack
Egyptian Palace Bread
Need: 4 slices white bread, 1 cup honey
Preheat oven to 300 degrees. Cut crusts from bread. Soak bread in honey for 30 minutes. Place in baking dish. Bake at 300 degrees for 25 minutes. Cool.
May be served with cream to pour over bread. 2 servings.
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From andy.lokong at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 12:08:20 2009
From: andy.lokong at gmail.com (Andy)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:08:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Out of curiosity...
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Out of curiosity...for those in the aviation industry, why do flight
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At some point the Captain or First Officer will also talk to the
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flight...the First Officer yapped for over 5 mins..."We have commenced
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From angaluki at aol.com  Fri Dec  4 23:27:11 2009
From: angaluki at aol.com (angaluki at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:27:11 -0500
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Islam & Kadhis Courts
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Jacton,

I want to read or listen to honest, concrete, objective reasons against an important issue such as inclusion of Kadhi's courts in our new constitution. I don't need any evidence to see that you're making a very powerful conclusion in capitals, "NO RELIGIOUS COURTS IN OUR CONSTITUTION OR NO NEW CONSTITUTION," based on nothing but a figment of your imagination and personal paranoia. You're simply fear mongering and I don't know how many of your readers believe you when you say, "The current conflict in Somalia to me, is not about anything but to create an opportunity for more Muslims to run out and come to Kenya as Refugees then they can buy their way to become citizens of Kenya which eventually will boost the number of Muslims in our country." Really? Do you believe yourself, that Somalis plunged their country into chaos so they could flee to Kenya? My point, Jacton, is that let's look at serious points for or against Kadhi's courts. Let's not act on paranoia or bigotry. Let's not whip emotions or fear. Let's not work on unfounded imagination or allegation. And most importantly, let's distinguish between Islam and Muslims, because there are some Muslims just as fanatical and intollerant of other religions as some Christians I read. These fanatics never represent the true teachings of a religion. When shall we as different tribes or people of diffrent religions ever learn to live together in harmony and pursue common goals for the common good of all our people instead of constantly looking for differences, sometimes non-existent, among us?
 
AM

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Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 8:36 am
Subject: [YP_Ke] Islam & Kadhis Courts




Hey People,

I'll stand by what our forefathers stood for during the struggle for independence. Lead me on this, Were there any Muslim fighters during the struggle for freedom from "wabeberu?"

They have lived with that court since it was established and have never heard them complain about it, why change the wordings now? what is the motive behind it?  

I want us to reflect on some of the states that have given Muslims their way ie Somalia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan, Nigeria etc, is there peace in those countries? Have you of late seen an increase in the number of Somalis in the streets of Nairobi? How are they gaining entry into our country? The Government owes us an explanation to this?
The motive behind the push for this court is clear, they have an agenda to take over Kenya since its the gateway to Africa for the West, they believe once this is done they will then be able to easily conquer Africa and declare it Muslim Continent from where they will be able to attack the west. The current conflict in Somalia to me, is not about anything but to create an opportunity for more Muslims to run out and come to Kenya as Refugees then they can buy their way to become citizens of Kenya which eventually will boost the number of Muslims in our country. What do Christians feel about this? What do you think will happen to Christians and other faiths when they achieve this? Will we have Kenya?

 Our Political class have also been swayed by this to an extent of signing secret memorandum with the same faith, what do you think is happening people? Why was the agreement not made Public? Do not take anything from these people as they can sell this country if that is what will make them quick-fix their Political ambitions.

Right now any Politician with Presidential ambitions will tell that there is nothing wrong with the courts why? because they are banking on the people of that faith to help them win the highest political seat in the land. Am, calling upon the ALL CHRISTIANS THAT this is the time that the Lord our God has given us and that we must stand true to his name and that the Glory and Victory shall be Ours at the end.

To Christians, we must Unite at times like this, we must remove our denominational Gloves and be one in Christ as it is only then that we shall emerge victorious. I say this because our Muslim brothers have a unity of Purpose and speak with one voice on matters touching on their people and their faith, how about Christians? its all about competition.  The church leadership hardly talk about Extra judicial killings that have denied our people the right to life ever since but you touch a Muslim and you face the music. Church, are we only useful in times of tithing and offering? where are the Christian leadership when the flock they purport to be leading to Christ are killed, hungry, sick have no homes and yet they bury their heads in the sand" man for himself and God for us all" is the order of the day. We need a proactive-conscious church  that all the times cares for its flock.

NO RELIGIOUS COURTS IN OUR CONSTITUTION OR NO NEW CONSTITUTION.

That's my stand.


 





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From: stanfordandsun at salaams.co.ke (Stanford and Sun Hear the Light)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:29:51 +0300
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From kipjsang at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  4 10:00:34 2009
From: kipjsang at yahoo.com (sang kip)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 07:00:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
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To say the current constitution is from Judeo-christian tradition is a lie becuase no?such?world view is explicit in the constitution.
The tirade hereunder is the major reason our constitution should guarantee freedom of worship but should not prefer any religion.?How will the constitution safeguard Islamic values that will not be safeguraded by one line that allows for freedom of worship and practice of religion?



Hi Kip

Perhaps out of yr ignorance u may not be aware that the constitutional is a basically based on Christian principles. For your information Kenyan laws are based on the British canon laws which are derived from Christian Judeo teachings. Just a simple example. Saturdays and Sundays are off work? days simply to allow Christians to go to church without any hassle. 
It is fair enough for Muslims to have a small portion of the law to safeguard their values after all this country is not only for Christians. Muslims have never come out to complain against the Christian doctrines in the constitution and it beats logic why some christians cannot tolerate a section which guarantees the rights of Muslims in the constitution.
It is high time that the excuse that the courts are a way of gradually introducing the Shariah law in the constitution is done away with as it has no basis whatsoever. Even? before independence the kadhis courts were in existence and they did not elicit such complaints before. Perhaps those who are peddling the so-called Islamic agenda can enlighten us on this.
The likes of kip are hiding behind hatred for islam and Muslims to spread the lies and disinformation on Islam. For Muslims-NO KADHIS COURTS NO CONSTITUTION!






















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To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 7:27:33 AM
Subject: [YP_Ke] ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.


RAMAH:
Should Islamic way of life be enshrined in the constitution?written for all Kenyans?! I think Islamic way of life is for Muslims only just as??Doctrines of the Christian Church are for Christians only.
Islamic law and culture are Arabic and I see no sense in making them part of a constitution that is supposed to be secular and non-ethnic. If Kadhi Courts will be part of it then Christian Doctrines, ethnic cultures and superstitions should also be part if it.
We are writing a constitution that will make all citizen equal regardless of religion, culture, gender, color and ability, etc. We writing a document that will favor all Kenyans equally.One that will not dictate matters of religion,exalt a groups above the rest, favor narrow interests or even subjugate some.
When Muslims relently insist that Kadhi Courts should be in the constitution they are saying, albeit mutedly,?that they are special and deserving special place in the constitution. When they say Kadhi Courts?define Islam as? away of life?we say the Bible does the same for Christians.
Ramah, Muslims' need, if allowed,? will become one step towards Sharia Law. It will be like the proverbial Elephant who asked?the farmer?to allow one of?Elephant's legs into?the farmer's?house to warm it.As time went on the Elephant demanded the other legs and the whole body??be accommodated too?deposing the farmer?and owning the ?house? himself!
The demand the Kadhi Court be included in the constitution is a game plan for future more demands which may destabilize the country.
NO KADHI COURTS IN THE CONSTITUTION!
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From: RAMAH SALIM <kipkesar at yahoo.com>
To: john kamau <jkorig at yahoo.com>
Cc: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 2:55:28 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.


John,
I am Ramah and not Rahah.Please note Islam is not just a religion but a way of life,that is why we required a dispute mechanism that will cater for our way of life esp. on family matters.If Xtians ,hindus and all other faiths want such a thing let them go ahead and no muslim will reject.I am still waiting for your facts concerning the Kadhi Courts and how it infringes on your right/s as a xtian AND TO PROVE ALL THOSE LIES THAT ARE BEING PEDDLED.

Ramah.s




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From: john kamau <jkorig at yahoo.com>
To: RAMAH SALIM <kipkesar at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 11:34:54 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.


Rahah and those obsessed with this kadhi issue, please remember that Hindu, Christians and all other faith based institutions administer in mar rages, deaths, Inheritance and divorce too. They do not have to have their internal affairs enshrined in the National constitution to do this.









--- On Wed, 12/2/09, RAMAH SALIM <kipkesar at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: RAMAH SALIM <kipkesar at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Cc: jkorig at yahoo.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 11:02 PM
> John,
> Stop peddling falsehoods.The courts are just to adminster
> matters relating to inheritance and divorce for Muslims and
> not criminal matters.Where does this affect you as a
> christian? Please sober up and do not be misled by christain
> fundamentalists.My challlege read the draft and come with
> facts and not generalisatiosn you see on Televisions and
> hear from enemies of Islam.
> 
> Ramah.S
> 
> From:
> john kamau <>
> To:
> youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009
> 5:08:07 AM
> Subject:
> Re:Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT
> CONSTITUTION.
> 
> 
> The muzungu Did, They put up a strong case to have the
> Sultanate of Zanzibar? retain full autonomy from rules
> governing other parts of the country after independece. Then
> the coastal strip was under this chief slave trader.?
> He was a business associate of the west, for many years
> trading with humans who if they happened to survive the
> Beatings, Decease and other inhuman treatment, were sold to
> the highest binder in the west mainly Americas. The current
> day Negros.This is the man we now must hon-our by including
> his wish in our constitution. most of us mainly our leaders
> will sell their mother for a penny, that is why they find
> nothing wrong with this Kadhi legacy. SHAME ON YOU.This is
> 2010 fellers not 1810. Islam or Christianity are religions.
> they should be treated as such? no more no less.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 12/1/09, jekambi at daystar.ac.ke
>? <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: jekambi at daystar.ac.ke
> <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
> > Subject: Re:Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE
> DRAFT CONSTITUTION.
> > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 9:40 PM
> > The whole constitution gives rights
> > to all faith, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Traditionists,
> etc
> > X100, to freely worship in whichever way. All but one
> has
> > its rights stipulated in the unifying constitution,
> WHY?
> > 
> > Each of these groupings have own constitutions that
>? help
> > them run their affairs, only should they conflict with
> the
> > unifying constitution, then troubles begin. No one is
> saying
> > no to Khadhi courts being in some constitution, all we
> are
> > skeptical about is why in the main one. The reasoning
> that
> > the other religions have not asked, in not
> intellectual and
> > wise. These other religions have their holy books and
> own
> > written something. But they too have a right to fight
> for
> > their right. But what is ones right? Let?s be
> reasonable
> > and sober in this matter. The constitution is not
> about us,
> > it is about a Kenyan people, the posterity, and the
> future.
> > 
> > History is always the best focal point of reference.
> No one
> > is telling us how the Kadhi court came into being,
> where
> > they came from, and why they were include. No one is
> telling
> > us on its limits/boundaries. If we can get the
> original
> >
>? Lancaster manuscript, honestly it will help. But for now,
> > everybody is fighting, it must/it must not. These will
> not
> > get us moving. Books of authority are there, let?s
> use
> > them.
> > 
> > The culture of tolerance, to me means, I respect the
> > feelings of all and accommodate all. I must not have
> my way,
> > I should allow every body equally footing and chance.
> Lets
> > listen to every body, even children. Give all an
> opportunity
> > especially the future.
> > 
> > It is not this is our thing, it must be there. NO
> > NOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
> > 
> > 
> > Ekambi
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jasmey Aellah <jasmey at gmail.com>
> > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com;
> > Sent: Tuesday 12/1/2009 9:16:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT
> > CONSTITUTION ...
> > 
> > >Well said Abu, i am a Cristian but still cant help
> the
> > so called church's
> > >dim view on Kadhi's court issue. Its every
> > organization's aim to expand,
> > >whats wrong with islam spreading its wings. Have
> the
> > radical preachers
> > >stopped one moment to think and realise that there
> is
> > one God !! This is
> > >worse than tribalism! There are Kenyan Muslims and
> the
> > freedom of worship
> > >applies to all. Please stop hate campaign
> > >
> > >On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> >
>? >>
> > >> Simon
> > >>
> > >> The presentation you are circulating is part
> of
> > the lies and propaganda
> > >> peddled by the a section of Christians who
> are
> > mainly radical evangelists
> > >> against the Kadhis courts. Just to remind you
> the
> > so-called communique which
> > >> is being pointed at is alleged to have been
> ame in
> > 1989 wheras the Kadhis
> > >> courts were in existence even before there
> was a
> > single person in Kenya who
> > >> adhere to the Christian faith.
> > >>
> > >> Secondly, yr presentation is nothing new.
> Exactly
> > the same information was
> > >> peddled and circulated during the last
> referendum
> > to hoodwink Kenyans about
> > >> the courts. This was accompanied by leaflets
> > distributed in churches showing
> > >> that? violence will break out
>? if the Kadhi
> > courts are incorporated in the
> > >> constitution.
> > >> For generations, the courts were in the
> Kenyan law
> > books and we never saw
> > >> any of the so-called Abuja declarations
> being
> > incorporated nor violence btn
> > >> Muslims and Christians as a result of the
> courts.
> > >>
> > >> It is high time? that a culture of
> tolerance
> > was exhibited as contrary to
> > >> these, we should not listen to such
> characters who
> > happen to create discord
> > >> among the different Kenyan communities who
> have
> > lived in peace and harmony
> > >> for generations.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Abu Ayman
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >> *From:* jekambi <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
> > >>
> > >> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> > >> *Sent:* Tue, December 1, 2009 3:25:17 PM
> > >> *Subject:* [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE
> DRAFT
> > CONSTITUTION OF KENYA
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dear Brethren,
> > >>
> > >> Kindly read the attached PowerPoint
> presentation
> > and forward it to others.
> > >> It will go a long way and possibly help to
> save
> > our country; remember that
> > >> ?a stitch in time saves nine?.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> God bless you,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Simon
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>? >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >>???------------------------------
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> > >>
> >
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>? To
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> > Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
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> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To
> Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also
> Talk On the Mau Politics.
> 
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards
> >>>> 
> 
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?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
?
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
?
Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go Palmhouse 
Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/

-- 
FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call 
254 721 663 208. 
?
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From mukuialex at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  5 05:27:30 2009
From: mukuialex at yahoo.com (Alexander Mukui)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 02:27:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such Thing as KKK
In-Reply-To: <617855.57950.qm@web110814.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <644566.88302.qm@web38304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

All

Great views

It is unfortunate that our politics is still individual-driven and not policy-driven as it should be. Lets hope that one day it will. 
For now i think we are still headed the way of the post colonial families but i would embrace anyone who can do the Obama miracle here. 
Raila is headed right, but correct me if i am wrong
So far has respected the rule of law
has upheld corrective responsibility
is not a war monger
can mobilize people to development (except in soccer -this Hey guy)



--- On Fri, 4/12/09, maurice oduor <mauricejoduor at yahoo.ca> wrote:

> From: maurice oduor <mauricejoduor at yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such Thing as KKK
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, 4 December, 2009, 17:30
> Karua
> was the chief? supporter of the rigging at KICC and
> she, therefore, is responsible for the PEV and all the
> associated problems. She should never be allowed, by
> Kenyans, to be in government.
> 
> Courage,
> Maurice
> 
> --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Dan Nyutu
> <denyutu at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such Thing as KKK
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Received: Friday, December 4, 2009, 6:27 AM
> 
> 
> Lee,
> 
> I think what you say is very true but a sad part of Kenya.
> We have the
> same guys (or their kids or wives) every election cycle yet
> Kenyans
> are poorer.
> 
> If the above are to be the only ones in 2012, i will go for
> Raila any
> day. But i still believe in miracles!
> 
> PS: You forgot Martha Karua. I admire her. hope she can be
> in Raila's
> camp so that she stays in govt.
> 
> Dan.
> 
> On 12/4/09, Lee Makwiny <amosogal at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Dan the idea is good! But remember that the names that
> will be on the ballot
> > box are :
> >
> > 1. Raila Odinga
> > 2. Kalonzo Musyoka
> > 3. William Ruto
> > 4. Musalia Mudavadi (though he may support RAO)
> > 5. Uhuru kenyatta
> > 6. Nazlin? Umar
> > 7. Moses Wetangula
> > 8. Elijah
>  Kombo
> >
> > We have only three years left and from the look of
> things, i don't see a YP
> > rising between now and 2012, unless we have a DJ who
> is ready to take over!!
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Though i do not support the idea of a
> revolution,(from YP, too scared of
> >> govt intelligences, LOL!!) i think Oranga's
> ideas are great ideals we
> >> should
> >> think about.
> >>
> >> The PM is doing a good job with MAU but like his
> peers, he has been there
> >> for far too long. He has done great with Kibaki
> and i wish he was on the
> >> controlling pedal but come 2012, i hope we can
> show our love for him by
> >> allowing him to retire peacefully with Kibaki and
> he will be a true
> >>
>  statesman.
> >>
> >> My hope for 2012, as i have mentioned repeatedly
> in this forum, is that we
> >> retire the entire Independence generation (and
> their empire families) who
> >> have nothing to show for their stay in politics as
> matters of Kenya's
> >> progress are concerned. We also need to retire all
> those who were involved
> >> in PEV. Since some communities may want to retain
> their kinsmen who
> >> brought
> >> our country so low with PEV, i hope the ICC
> assists us here.
> >>
> >> So the Rutos, Kenyattas, Kibakis, Odingas etc...
> go retire in peace come
> >> 2012.
> >>
> >> Then the young professionals please get into
> political parties and help
> >> turn around our country through revolutionalising
> parties come 2012.
> >>
> >> Dan.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Oranga, Daniel
>  <doranga at kcb.co.ke>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>? ?how we talk about other and not
> us,? are we not leaders enough to stand
> >>> up and make a better future for ourselves and
> our children children. What
> >>> exactly are we idolizing this mentioned
> individuals about??? Have they
> >>> raised our living standards, added a sugar
> spoon? or even shaken our
> >>> hands
> >>> in church?
> >>>
> >>> My good people why don?t we do a
> revolution?.then have new names like
> >>> oranga, Kiprop, wanjiru, kamunde and oduor hit
> the headlines with
> >>> developmental issues??we can run this
> country
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *From:* maurice oduor [mailto:mauricejoduor at yahoo.ca]
> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:18 PM
> >>>
> >>> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> >>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such
> Thing as KKK
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ruto is advised to be consistent. So far he is
> quite impatient and is
> >>> burning his bridges. He needs to be patient.
> He is still a young man who
> >>> can
> >>> be President in future. I will personally vote
> for him come 2017 and do
> >>> everything in my power to make his presidency
> a success. Let him support
> >>> Raila for now for that
>  is his only insurance to attain the presidency; we
> >>> will deliver the votes to him. We supported
> Kibaki in 2002 and that was a
> >>> tough sell. Supporting Ruto in 2017 will be a
> very easy task, believe
> >>> me..
> >>>
> >>> I will personally mobilize Kenyans to propel
> him to power. But if he
> >>> wants
> >>> to remain a Kalenjin Chief and no more, then
> he is using a good strategy.
> >>> It
> >>> is such a shame that he is allowing the
> Kutunys and the Isaac Rutos to
> >>> take
> >>> control of his political future. If he is
> thinking about this KKK
> >>> nonsense
> >>> then his future is doomed. He should forget
> about being President; our Mt
> >>> Kenya never vote for anyone who hails from a
> different tribe. I am sure
> >>> he
> >>> knows that.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone has
>  Ruto's phone #, please give it to me. i would like to
> >>> explain my position to him.
> >>>
> >>> Courage,
> >>> Maurice
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On *Tue, 12/1/09, Kiprop Simion <kiprop.simion at gmail.com>*
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Kiprop Simion <kiprop.simion at gmail.com>
> >>> Subject: Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such Thing
> as KKK
> >>> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> >>> Received: Tuesday, December 1,
>  2009, 6:25 AM
> >>>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From the Politics we have seen in the country
> for several years. It seems
> >>> we are still? politically illiterate.MAU
> issue is more than meets the
> >>> eye,
> >>> its a much complex issue than you think ,note
> that political landscape
> >>> changes everyday.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> A good politician is the one who can generate
> serious discomfort to other
> >>> political peers .......Raila is no longer the
> man Ruto is?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Who thought that Ruto could Mobilise 10
> Cabinet Ministers to the Panafric
> >>> function...........??
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at
>  11:33 AM, Maryann Wanjiru <
> >>> cirumariga2007 at gmail.com
> <http://mc/compose?to=cirumariga2007 at gmail.com>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Evictions at Mau are not going to benefit
> Raila's homestead, its for
> >>> kenya
> >>> as a country and the whole region at large. I
> wonder where Uhuru was when
> >>> IDPs were walking on foot from Naivasha to was
> it nyahururu? which was
> >>> more
> >>> than 80 kilometers on the rain for days as
> women miscarried and children
> >>> caught phenumonia???? are those the
> Kikuyu's he is talking of being in
> >>> the
> >>> KKK?????
> >>>
> >>> Pole sana Uhuru, u r politically
>  finished round hii! u can go look for
> >>> votes somewhere in Eldoret. though i wish
> Ocampo can act faster. kila mtu
> >>> abebe msalaba yake!
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Allen Kamunde
> >>> <alkamyoyo at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=alkamyoyo at yahoo.com>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It pains me everytime i see people referring
> to such thing as KKK. It
> >>> just
> >>> Doesnt exist!
> >>>
> >>> That is just a grouping of 3 people; Uhuru,
> Ruto, Kalonzo. Just ask
> >>> yourselves, Do you
>  believe they speak on behalf of the said people they
> >>> purport to speak for? Do they really have the
> blessings of the said
> >>> people?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My answer is no! and the can go to hell.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Evitions have to continue, and to Raila, you
> can only get stronger,
> >>> Kudos!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>? FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR
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> >> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
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> >> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of
> YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> >> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the
> Mau Politics.
> >>
> >> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> >> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> >> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> >> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
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> > FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT
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> > VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> > DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> > TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> > GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice &
> Constitutional Affairs
> > Minister, Gichugu MP.
> > TOPIC: The
>  Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans
> Get It
> > Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau
> Politics.
> >
> > Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> > Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> > Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> > Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
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> -- 
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> Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100
> Nairobi, Kenya.
> Tel: 3872252/ 3877637/ 2067622
> Email: dnyutu at gmail.com
> Cell: 0728-200075
> 
> "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again
> and expecting
> different results"
> 
> Albert Einstein (Attributed)
> US (German born) Physicist (1879-1955)
> 
> -- 
> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
> 
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice &
> Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To
> Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She
>  Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
> 
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards
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> 
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
> 
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
> 
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice &
> Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
> 
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To
> Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also
> Talk On the Mau Politics.
> 
> ?
> 
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
> 
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
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From president at kenyansabroad.org  Sun Dec  6 08:50:58 2009
From: president at kenyansabroad.org (KCA President)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 23:20:58 +0930
Subject: [Jambo] Update
Message-ID: <c708204c0912060550x5f908b6ci9b6004ec45f0110f@mail.gmail.com>

Members

Just to keep you informed of what we are doing as we approach the
'silly season' when everything shuts down and people become 'wateja'
(i.e. cannot be reached).

Our website - although a work in progress-is functional. We have received
comments on the Draft Constitution <http://www.kenyansabroad.org/> but can
do with more. Our formal
response will go out next week. So please hurry and visit
www.kenyansabroad.org
to leave your comments on this very important document. Time is running
fast please hurry. We will post our draft response for members' comment and
then forward it to the CoE.

A time has come when we need to enhance the composition of our Exec
Committee and there is no better way to do so than via elections. Tasks we
have to accomplish first include sorting out the member list and drawing
up a voter register. Next we will constitute an electoral committee
and identify a date And candidates.

This is how you can help your organisation:
1. pay your membership fee (it is still $15). Simply go to
   www.kenyansabroad.org/about_us.html and click on the* Subscribe* button.
2. Invite ten of your friends to join KCA. They need to fill the form at
    http://www.kenyansabroad.org/member/join.html
3. participate in the election exercise

In the meantime we have two fundraising appeals - famine and holiday
harambee.
You can donate by clicking on the Donate button/icon on our website
at www.kenyansabroad.org/about_us.html.  Please give generously.

Regards

Dr I.M. Ogendi
for KCA Executive
www.kenyansabroad.org
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From sharifa.shiro at storymojaafrica.co.ke  Sat Dec  5 07:36:40 2009
From: sharifa.shiro at storymojaafrica.co.ke (Sharifa Shiro)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:36:40 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] weekend out in Nairobi
In-Reply-To: <179644.57611.qm@web24603.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <765193.55623.qm@web38007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<179644.57611.qm@web24603.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9b523a570912050436w17dc0ec7h6e15f0db54a6259a@mail.gmail.com>

Yes...go Karichota...its lovely! its in Naru Moro about 2 hours from
town. Its a private home..with lovely view of mt kenya. Its 4k self
catering. Elephants come visiting regularly. There's a care taker that
can handle any other biz...take you on treks etc there's former maumau
hide out nearby you can check out. check out this website for more
details or call Keith Pearson the owner on 0722815112. I am trying to
go up there myself. www.theatrecompany.net/getaway.php

On 05/12/2009, Jackie Arkle <jackie_arkle at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> HI Sally,
>
> Yes they do. There are actually designated sites within the park where you
> can also do a bbq. You can also have a birthday bash there! Have a jolly
> good weekend everyone.
>
> Jackie
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Sally Maina <sally_maina at yahoo.com>
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 4 December, 2009 16:18:13
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] weekend out in Nairobi
>
>
> Just curious - does Nairobi National Park allow picnics?
>
> --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Jackie Arkle <jackie_arkle at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Jackie Arkle <jackie_arkle at yahoo.co.uk>
>>Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] weekend out in Nairobi
>>To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>>Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 3:40 AM
>>
>>
>>Small world closed ages ago! Its up for sale now.
>>
>>Naivasha - Fishermans camp or try Holiday Homes- (Fiona) in Lavington for
>> excellent deals and get-away's.. 0722 725
>> 305
>>
>>Picnic at Nairobi National park, be it breakfast, lunch or for Sundowners
>> for a day out for sure!;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
> ________________________________
> From: judy kaiguire <jkaiguire at gmail.com>
>>To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>>Sent: Fri, 4 December, 2009 12:51:32
>>Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] weekend out in Nairobi
>>
>>Try Small world lodge they have about 5 cottages and nice food its on
>>Nairobi-Mombasa highway near daystar, just google it. You cud later or
>>earlier if you have a car, drive to the Nairobi national park through
>>their entrance on Mombasa road and have a
>> picnic and watch the
>>sunset(oops! got carried away). Enjoy!
>>
>>On 12/3/09, MATUNDURA GESORA <gesmatt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> hi people,
>>> anybody with knowledge of a good place in or just slightly out of town
>>> where
>>> one can spend a weekend with a spouse/gf etc. budget should not exceed
>>> 4k.
>>> regards
>>> --
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> --
>>> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>>>
>>> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
>>> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
>>> TIME: 6:00pm ?
>> 8:00pm
>>> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
>>> Minister, Gichugu MP.
>>> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
>>> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>>>
>>> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
>>> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
>>> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
>>> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
>>> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
>>> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
>>> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>>>
>>> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
>>> call
>>> 254 721 663 208.
>>>
>>> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for
>> your Tea, Snacks & part to
>> go
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>>
>>--
>>FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>>
>>VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
>>DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
>>TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
>>GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
>> Minister, Gichugu MP.
>>TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
>> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>>
>>Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
>>Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
>>Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
>>Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
>>Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
>>Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
>>Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>>
>>Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
>> call
>>254 721 663 208.
>>
>>Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
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>>Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>>FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>>>
>>>VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
>>>DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
>>>TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
>>>GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
>>> Minister, Gichugu MP.
>>>TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
>>> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>>>
>>>Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
>>>Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
>>>Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
>>>Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
>>>Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
>>>Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
>>>Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>>>
>>>Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or
>>> call
>>>254 721 663 208.
>>>
>>>Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
>>> Palmhouse
>>>Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>>
>
> --
> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
> Palmhouse
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>
>
>
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From sharifa.shiro at storymojaafrica.co.ke  Sat Dec  5 07:59:10 2009
From: sharifa.shiro at storymojaafrica.co.ke (Sharifa Shiro)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:59:10 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Homestay Documentary
In-Reply-To: <136168.61056.qm@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <23207d9b0912040248x37f7145ehaa5d7e626b8e38ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<136168.61056.qm@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9b523a570912050459w1001cdaag5064af05669fe4b2@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, i have some ideas but we may need to link...just call me please. I
myself have always wanted to do that with my family. I've met families
that do that....0736116444
And much encore to the film...we all need a wake up call...current
education system does nothing for our kids...i know world travel a
more valuable education system. I am also part of homeschoolers
group...i know we can work something out.

On 04/12/2009, PETER ONGERA <ongerapeter at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am helping a British TV crew currently working on
> a new landmark documentary series about the growing number of British
> families putting day-to-day life on hold tosee the world with their
> children. Through the films?they hope to highlight just how
> rewarding,educational and most importantly possible it is to go traveling
> with the kids.
> Our hope is that the programmes will inspire more parents thinking about
> this kind of trip to actually take the plunge and get involved around the
> world. We also want to highlight the positives of this kind of experience
> has on a family unit and the educational benefit for children. Each family
> would be left with a unique travel-log of their journey..
> The families that we are following are?going to Kenya,Uganda,Ethiopia,Rwanda
> and Zambia.? Our hope is that the families will be able to find some local
> life and immerse within the local community, staying mostly clear of tourist
> areas,while doing volunteer work.
> The families?are very keen for them to experience local life away from
> Western society.
> Please help me identify good hosts and projects to participate in the
> program.
>
>
> Peter Ongera
> Social?Entrepreneur and Consultant
> Skype:peter.ongera
> www.africanhomestay.net
>
> ?????????? LIVE ,STUDY and WORK in AFRICA
>
>
> --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Updates of Yesterday's LYP Meeting
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 5:48 AM
>
>
> Thanks Francis for the update.
>
>
> From the discussions yesterday, we agreed to firm up our views in light of
> the new?enlightenment?by Hon. Karua and forward them to the COE.
>
>
> Thus, i request we forward our comments to?youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com.
> All views will be collated and forwaded to the COE.
>
>
> Please do so within the next ten days so that we can beat the deadline.
>
>
> Dan.
>
>
> LYP Treasurer.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Moderator YP_Ke
> <youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Esteemed Members,
>
> Here is a brief report of our LYP meeting yesterday with Hon. Martha Karua
> as our Guest Speaker. The meeting started at 6:20pm and was adjourned at
> 9:00pm; though members continue to network over a cup of coffee thereafter
> till 10:00pm
>
> Our end of year meeting turned to be one of the best congregations of YPs
> this year, coupled with a very informative and brilliant presentation by Hon
> Martha Karua. She took us through 5 areas of contention that she feels us as
> young professionals should re-look at, make further discussions and make
> submission to COE.
>
> The areas are
>
> The executive
> She first took us through various systems of government & how they work, the
> parliamentary system like one in US, presidential like one in US, and a
> hybrid like the French System. The current one that is proposed and the one
> we are running now close to hybrid system.
>
> With the current one being proposed as a reaction to reduce or check
> presidential powers, she requested us to look further which is the best way
> to introduce that. It is through transferring some of the powers to the
> office of the Prime Minister which could result to two parallel centers of
> power or is it by having a very powerful parliament like in the USA where
> the president cannot make any major changes or policy without the approval
> of the congress?? Currently since we are having both offices, are you
> content with the way they are operating?
>
> With powers being transferred to the office of PM who is elected by MPs &
> not universal suffrage, and knowing how easy it is for members of parliament
> to be manipulated through seduction, bribery or promises (she quipped the
> current parliament is the most corrupt of the 4 parliament she has been),
> unless changed, we might having moneyed people determine who runs the
> government.
>
> She requested us to go to the internet and research more on how various
> governments around the world work.
>
> The Legislature
> The proposed parliament will have 2 houses, the Senate & the National
> assembly. Though good, she noted the size of the senate is yet not known
> since the numbers of counties are not known (Since the boundaries commission
> has not finished it work)
>
> She said though the article is the Right to recall is widely supported, she
> isn?t happy with it in its current form, as should be made more stringent to
> avoid witch hunt by those who loose to make it to parliament. Two weeks
> after you have been elected to parliament and working hard, your opponents
> may already be collecting signatures to recall you. It should be made more
> stringent so that cases of recall can only be launched once there are
> substantial bases to do that.
>
> Devolution.
>
> With devolved government, we shall have 3 governments, the Parliament, the
> Regional governments the county governments. We are already complaining of
> bloated cabinet, do we have the resources to support all of the three levels
> of governments? & with the number of counties still unknown, we might end up
> with a bloated government which we might not sustain with the available
> resources. She requested us to do the mathematics to see the number the
> number of elected officers we shall have the average resources we will need
> in terms of salaries 7 other expenditures
>
> Judicial System.
> On the Kadhi court she requested us Christian to be tolerant. She was amazed
> that Kadhi court was one on the most hotly discussed topic in YP. She said
> since Kadhi courts have there in the constitution & never had any problem,
> why do we want to remove them. And how do you think our brother Muslim
> interpret or react to that. She however noted that if they remain as
> proposed in the draft constitution then the wording should be the same as
> the in the old constitution. She said the wording in the draft is different
> and we should reread & look at the finer details to avoid problems.
>
>
> Here she said we can make improvements to ensure we have a more independent
> system. For example, with the judges being appointed/recommended by Judicial
> Service Commission composed of the members of the judicial system itself who
> may be appointed cronies of the power be, we should be have an external
> body, say an inspectorate composed as of for example the members of LSK,
> academia etc to have a say in appointment of judges to ensure integrity of
> the system.
>
>
>
>
> Before she ended she reminded us the following.
>
> A constitution however good will not be the only solution to take us
> forward. We also need to change our ethics, change our leaders, and end
> impunity even at the lowest level etc. She says even the current
> constitution could have taken us places only if the rule of law is observed.
> Do you know it says someone who alleged to have committed economic crime
> should not be appointed to cabinet? While 1/3 of the current cabinet have
> such cases?! Even we have a new constitution without a change of leaders who
> will respect it, we might not move forward. We need a new crop of leaders, a
> paradigm shift.
>
> Did you know Britain doesn?t have a written constitution, yet it is one of
> the best run countries in the world?
>
> She also requested us to use the vitality, creativity, innovativeness, the
> boldness and the risk-taking attitude/appetite of the youth to initiate
> initiatives to move the country forward. She said the older people are more
> conservative and therefore can not make drastic and tremendous changes or
> shift that is so critical for us revolution. So the challenge is left to us
> the young people.
>
> Are we equal to the task, up to the challenge?
>
> --
> Regards
> YP_Ke Group Moderator
>
> --
> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
> Palmhouse
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Nyutu
>
> Strategy Consultant
> Strategic Leadership Center International
> Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100
> Nairobi, Kenya.
> Tel: 3872252/ 3877637/ 2067622
> Email: dnyutu at gmail.com
> Cell: 0728-200075
>
> "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
> different results"
>
> Albert Einstein (Attributed)
> US (German born) Physicist (1879-1955)
>
> --
> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
> Palmhouse
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>
> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>
> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com, or call
> 254 721 663 208.
>
> Carry your Ksh. 250 bob which caters for your Tea, Snacks & part to go
> Palmhouse
> Foundation http://palmhsefoundation.org/
>


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Production Manager Storymoja
Cel: +254 736 116444

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imprint. Your kids will love the stories, the adventure, the
characters. You will appreciate the positive underlying messages.
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Dundori, and The Brethren of Ngondu. Storymoja books are sold in
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From jbatec at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  6 12:02:52 2009
From: jbatec at yahoo.com (Judy Miriga)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:02:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] An Open Letter to PM Raila
Message-ID: <701571.94722.qm@web57316.mail.re1.yahoo.com>





Dear Prime Minister Raila,
?
This is to bring to your attention our concern that many times your public utterances are wanting, so confusing, contradicting, worrisome and questionable to an extend majority poor Kenyans are left to wonder if their public interest are taken care of or their demands according to your view, would be given favorable consideration as partners in development and or be treated with honor incase you become the next President of Kenya. 
My purpose for writing this email is as a result of recent public disagreement you had with Ambassador Ranneberger when he questioned recent raise in allowances for Civil Servants which he thought was not urgent or important as yet under the prevailing urgent humanitarian grounds where majority are lagging in poverty including the displaced persons and also it is thought sensible tackling serious issues of great importance which are?believed were politically motivated and are severely affecting survival of ordinary poor Kenyan public ?(Mwanainchi ) presently.? 
Things of salary to Civil Servants can be considered when the country stabilizes.? This shows we are lacking Experts in Finance Controller General who plans and balances expenditure budget usage for the Country.? This give question to weather Parliamentary Finance Committee is functioning. MPs salary alone for a poor country like Kenya, which is unable to generate their own finances or support their people independently, is world wide questionable when Kenya Government rely heavily on Donor funding and grants to maintain their running expenditure in the Government.? Members of Parliament salary increase takes place two to three times in one year, is this justified?? This kind of behaviour is stealing from public.? We want a considerate People's Representative who will be willing to make partnership with the people so the public can achieve their desired ambition goals in life. 
We are worried that you are not considering urgent remedy and resolution in matters affecting Kenyans for which we thought would be your agenda number one (service to ordinary people).? To deliver, you must treat delivery as matters of life and death in your consideration and must be given top attention with urgency in order to be trusted.? Position of Kenya is totally shaken from political quagmire, that engulf the Country? with issues that scuttle Reform Agenda for Kenya and Kenyans, requiring immediate attention, so people can live at peace united with each other.? I am contemplating ?issues surrounding implementation of Reform Agenda 4 which; your slow pace in giving unequivocal support to the ?Local Tribunal Bill, your slack way of interjecting on Draft Constitution which in my opinion is lacking PUBLIC CONTROL POWER, and where the so called Legal professionals were paid huge handsome money to do a shoddy job is robbery to the public, which
 you seem to support, and your jumpy way of cooperating with the International Community who are giving Kenya and Kenyans a jump-start financial back-up support necessary to help Kenya remain stable financially under these shaking stormy political condition which are about to sink Kenya into oblivion and throw Kenyans into a state of hopelessness, a people without direction is worrisome.??? 
Any money that come to Kenya from International Donor or Government?is not free money, one way or the other it must be paid back by the people/public.? The people who pay back this money through hardship are the ordinary WANAINCHI.? It is the responsibility of PEOPLE/PUBLIC therefore to question or know how and where their money is spent.? They have the right to question.? If it is stolen, they have the right to demand their money back, whether through court or otherwise. 
In my opinion, you just seem to think of foreign money coming in to the Country without a plan how to transparently disburse the said money to the involvement and information of PUBLIC to bring achievable desired result which is possible in a short space of time.? In your government as President, how will you treat donor funding.? Public money used carelessly is what has failed Kenya and is the reason why Politicians are stealing from Kenyans, why Goldenburg ripped off Kenyans resource utility, why?Anglo Leasing (Anglo leasing) is a big issue, Kenyans must recover through International Courts. ?This donor money, we want to believe?you seem to think should circulate feeding your individual pockets in the Government without questioning, which is wrong, it is public theft.? You do not turn jittery when that kind of question is put accross.? You should defend such questions with dignity and humility to be able to achieve reform.? 
There will be no development success in Kenya or the removal of poverty without responsibility, commitment and transparency involving Civil Society as partners of Development in any Government. Checks and balances must be the way to go.
We worry that you may be having good professional experts to advice and guide in the Coalition Government in your leadership, but you ignore to utilize their expertise and do not give them express open hand to utilize their knowledge so they can deliver.? For what use, Prime Minister Raila, is the increase of salary to Civil Servants if they are not going to deliver according to their profession because your type of leadership is tying their hands from performing, yet the public expect them to perform?? This is tax payers money spent without due regard, the public money which the people pay back through thin and thick in TAXES in the form of rising costs of food, transportation, rent including other basic daily needs or otherwise from the poor?s hard earned earning which they (the public) conditionally oblige in order to survive.? This behavior is considered knowingly subjecting and suppressing humanity through negligence into harsh reality of
 conditionality is considered abusive to humanity and is treated as Criminal against Human Rights in the International Treaty for Human Rights.??This manner of behaviour can also scuttle?Reform we badly need.?
You also want to compare US State Secretary Hillary Clinton to her recent visitation to Kenya, that she had a big entourage yet they were spending Tax Payers money??you are attacking the same hands that are feeding Kenya and Kenyans.? USA is so organized 50 years ahead of its Country basic finance budget.? USA have Government reserve facility to accommodate their expenditures.? The Government itself is able to generate its independent funds in many small sublet activities, in other words the Government has a creative ways of generating independent money so they are able to pay back any monies they borrow from public kitty.? How would you therefore want to compare yourself or Kenya with USA? Is this not lacking wisdom? 
Bwana Prime Minister you are letting Kenyans down.? You cannot bite the hand that is feeding you because it will stop feeding you and you will be putting the country in arms length danger to invasion and terrorism.? Step up and have a reality check so we can trust and believe that you are able to lead Kenyans to prosperity and deliver effectively to Kenyans without meandering. ?I believe you have an apology to the Envoy. 
Best Regards, 

?
Judy Miriga 
Diaspora Spokesperson 
Executive Director 
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc., 
USA 
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com
?
?
Envoy and PM spat over civil servants allowances

?
Updated 18 hr(s) 6 min(s) ago 

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By Martin Mutua 

Prime Minister Raila Odinga almost fell out with US ambassador Michael Ranneberger over the push for austerity measures in Government. 
Trouble started when Ranneberger questioned the recent raise in allowances for civil servants, saying the economy was still weak. 
Raila, who had called a meeting between donors and top Government officials in his office, defended the raise, claiming the envoy was out of order. The envoy said the donor community had suggested that the Government limits the number and size of delegations overseas and were disappointed by the turn of events. 
Ranneberger said a minister visiting Switzerland would claim $918 per day (about Sh68,850) in allowances, which is more than what an average Kenyan earns annually. 
"By comparison it is perhaps worth noting that a US government official traveling to Switzerland receives only about half the daily allowance of a Kenyan minister," the envoy is reported to have said. At this point an agitated Raila hit back and told Ranneberger he had overstepped his mandate. 
"The PM actually told the ambassador that he had now gone overboard and was meddling in the internal affairs of the country and should stop," added the source. 
Raila is said to have referred the envoy to the visit by US Secretary of State Hilary Clinton whose entourage occupied the entire Inter Continental Hotel for a week. 
"The PM asked the envoy to state whether by taking an entire hotel Clinton was also not burdening the US tax payers," added the source. 
Other issues the donors are said to have raised include Goldenberg and Anglo Leasing scandals. Ranneberger asked whether the Government was preparing to make more payments to Anglo Leasing-related companies. 

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The European Union, through the Community Development Trust Fund (CDTF), is setting aside Sh90 million to fund projects located in Mwea, Embu, Mbeere, Kutui, Mbooni and Mwingi districts. These areas have suffered massive environmental destruction that have been perpetuated by human and animal activities in the areas.
The CDTF Programmes Co-ordinator, Salesius Njoka Miu, said the Sh90 million disbursements was part of a Sh1.3 billion EU kitty, which will be used to fund 179 environmental projects in Kenya.
Adopt skills
The EU Head of Social and Environment section, Daniel Plas, called on the project beneficiaries to utilise the grants effectively by adopting the skills learnt through the capacity building sessions, after he joined the board of trustees of CDTF in assessing progress made in the nine projects. 
The skill upgrade, Plas said, would enable them sustain the project even after the close of the donor funding. 
The nine projects are being implemented by community-based organisations, which have to contribute 10 per cent of the projects funding. Among the conditions set was gender inclusiveness, a move that saw women leaders participating in the projects.
CDTF also insisted that provincial administration and other environmental stakeholders be included in the formulation, implementation and sustenance of the projects to guard against inter-departmental conflicts and suppress vested interests. 
Miu said the EU funding would also be channeled to agro-forestry projects, which include agro-organic farming, fishing and poultry farming, beekeeping, tree growing, pottery and brick making, which will improve environmental protection besides addressing the community?s livelihood.
Moreover, EU?s Project Manager, Joseph Mathuva, said the EU was ready to channel more funds into projects that will address the millennium development goals (MDGs) and improve rural communities.
Among the projects that CDTF visited included the Thiba and Nyamindi River Basin, which got Sh20.6 million in funding. The organisation aims to restore the area?s natural resources, and improve the livelihoods of communities through fish and poultry rearing, and rehabilitation of the area rivers.
The Allamano Mianya Primary School, in Mwea, received Sh2.5 million to improve learning facilities and the road access to the school, while the Nyanyaa Secondary School Laboratory, in Kitui, Sh1.7million. 
Road access
In Embu, the Rwere-Kianjokoma Bridge received Sh5.5 million to provide reliable and efficient road access between Kavutiri and Kiriari sub-locations. CDTF is also funding the improvement of the Rupingazi river ecosystem.
EU has also channelled Sh1.8 million into the Kandara water dam, in Mbeere District, to increase availability of water for domestic and livestock. Moreover, communities used the funds to put up a dam that will serve over 500 households that initially trekked over 20 kilometers daily in search of water.
Additionally, drought hit Mwingi District will have reprive after the rehabilitation of the Mwingi -Katiliku-Kwa Mbungu water supply at a cost of Sh5.6 million is complete 
In Mbooni, the Mutonguni Ecosystem Environment Management group received Sh18.2 for environmental rehabilitation. The group will establish a tree nursery, construct a sand dams and forestry processing unit, in addition to procuring of four brick making machines, and 183 beehives. 

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Each one of us has got some issues;issues that in more ways than one belong to realm of "personal and confidential".If possible,we don't want anyone to know anything about them. Privately,we admit to ourselves that these issues are not all that easy to deal with.Much as we want not to think about them,they keep popping up.If we were honest,we would say that some issues are killing us,so to speak.

Without any question,there are some issues that are way beyond our help.Such,we can only hand them over or turn them over to the Master per excellence-Jesus Christ,our Lord and savior.He himself has invited us to come unto Him. Hear what He says "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light." (Mathew 11:28-30).

Will the Master cast any one of us away? By no means. He wants all of us saved,"All that the Father gives me shall come to me; and him that comes to me I will in no wise cast out.For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day." (John 6:37-39).

Do we have any part to play? Absolutely. Let each of us identify what our challenges are. Once we do that,let us wholeheartedly accept help.Just remember that as Jesus said "I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing" (John 15.5). So,Pray about it and purpose in your life to do something about it. I will continue praying for y'all and request you to do the same for me! Will you?

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Vol. 12 No 49...Dedicated to the Dialogue on Race... 12-06-09
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Table of Contents



1. New You Use...A Review: Institutional Racism in Law Schools...By John Burl Smith
2. Bit of History...Henry A. Giroux
3. Venue for an Artist...American Youth in the 21st Century: Pathologized, Criminalized and  Disposable...By Henry A. Giroux
4. Hood Notes...Ugly Truth: Most U.S. Kids Sentenced to Die In Prison Are Black...By Liliana Segura
5. Politics Y2K9...Stacking the Deck Against Kids...By Bob Herbert
6. Disgruntled
7. Mailbox
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New You Use
A Review: Institutional Racism in Law Schools
By John Burl Smith

When the Founding Fathers codified slavery in the 3/5 Compromise of  
Article I Section II in the US Constitution, they legalized  
discrimination. This made maintaining segregation, racism and the  
hostile environment slave descendants endure a government function.   
Federal, state and local governments enacted laws and instituted  
policies and procedures that made white supremacy the guiding   
socioeconomic and political value of US society.  The fact that the  
3/5 Compromise was never repealed and removed from the US Constitution  
means it remains law of the land.

Whites and many blacks claim that the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments  
to the Constitution negated the 3/5 Compromise.  However, the 3/5  
Compromise is the basis of the Electoral College and the US Senate.   
Moreover, "strict construction" of the Constitution is code for  
honoring the 3/5 Compromise.  It is why the Supreme Court ruled that  
to give blacks equal access or in any way level the playing field is  
"reversed" discrimination.  Consequently, the socioeconomic inequities  
in education, employment, income, wealth, etc. are forms of  
discrimination the Constitution allows.

Vernellia R. Randall (2006) published a very perceptive study in St.  
John's Law Review,  The Misuse of the LSAT: Discrimination Against  
Blacks and Other Minorities in Law School Admissions, which supports  
this thesis.  This investigation is far too extensive to present fully  
here, but discussion of its rationale and conclusions are well within  
the scope of this review.  Law schools, the American Bar Association  
(ABA), Supreme Court and civil rights lawyers are enablers, obscuring  
the truth  that the 3/5 Compromise permits discrimination against  
slave descendants.

"Each year the U.S. News & World Report publishes its college and  
university rankings, and as a result law schools have resorted to  
discrimination to "raise" their rank."  Their aim is to reduce the  
talent pool of blacks and minorities that could become lawyers.  Not  
the blatant "No Blacks Allowed" kind of discrimination but the subtle  
"soft bigotry" based on low expectations."

Institutional racism exists when institutions adopt policies,  
practices, or procedures that appear neutral but impact blacks and  
other minorities disproportionately. Law schools adopted a cut-off  
score (below which few, if any, candidate is admitted) on the Law  
School Admissions Test ("LSAT') in the 1990s.  Arbitrary cut-off  
LSAT/UGPA (Undergraduate Grade Point Average) scores became the sole  
determining admission factors since that adoption.  Despite an  
increase in the number of applications, an increase in average LSAT  
scores and a rise in average UGPA, black and Mexican American  
enrollment in law schools decreased over the last ten years.

Implementation of such a policy, practice, or procedure is clear  
evidence of institutional racism, but it is also evidence of systemic  
racism since many institutions - the American Bar Association,  
National Association of Judges and U.S. News & World Report- cover up  
such an unethical and discriminatory intent.  Racism is any conscious  
or unconscious action or attitude that subordinates an individual or  
group based on skin color or race.  Such institutional behavior is  
inherently racist because policy outcomes effectively exclude blacks  
-- disproportionately affecting access to and quality of goods,  
services, and opportunities for blacks.

Cultural or systemic racism (3/5 Compromise) forms the basis of  
institutional racism. It underlies the value system, supporting and  
facilitating discrimination based on perceptions of superiority and  
inferiority as part of daily rationale.  Randall's study looked at the  
University of Dayton as an illustration of the insidious problem of  
institutional discrimination as a function of systemic racism in legal  
education. The University of Dayton is a private, Catholic, Marianist  
law school with a stated mission of social justice and commitment to  
diversity. The city of Dayton, Ohio is almost fifty percent African  
American.

University of Dayton School of Law admission director assigned a  
status of presumptive admit, presumptive deny, or committee review  
based primarily on the applicant's LSAT/UGPA.  Beyond this there were  
no written standard or criteria against which a prospective  
candidate's file was reviewed.  Files sent for committee review were  
evaluated on the basis of a full file review and voted on by the  
individual committee members. Each committee member applied his or her  
own unarticulated criteria.

For the 2003-2004 admissions committee, the presumptive deny level was  
set at any LSAT score below 145. This meant that if two similar files  
were received by the admission office, and the only significant  
difference between the files was that one had an LSAT of 144 and the  
other had a 145 and both had a UGPA of 3.49, the file of the applicant  
with the 145 LSAT would have been sent to committee review. The other  
would have been presumptively denied.

The University of Dayton's 2003 admission grid gave preference to  
test-taking ability over demonstrated classroom ability.  For  
instance, an applicant who scored between 165 and 180 on the LSAT was  
presumptively admitted even though that applicant's performance during  
undergraduate school was at the C+ (2.5) level.  Conversely, an  
applicant who scored between 120 and 139 was presumptively denied even  
though the applicant performed in undergraduate school at an A+ (3.75  
or above) level.

A 2003 report of the ABA Commission on Racial and Ethnic Diversity in  
the Profession stated that: Combined African American and Hispanic  
representation among lawyers was 7 % in 1998.  The United States  
population is projected to be almost 60% "minority" by 2050. Without a  
substantial improvement we will not be a multiracial society where all  
groups are represented fairly-- we will instead be a de facto South  
African Apartheid, where power and control of society will be  
disproportionately held by the white minority.

It is not enough to object to the use of cut-off scores or admission  
processes that impact blacks and other minorities disparately.  All  
lawyers must actively oppose using LSAT cut-off scores (below which no  
applicants will be considered) to disqualify blacks and other  
minorities.  "Further, the Law School Admission Council (LSAC) asserts  
that '[t]hose who set admission policies and criteria should always  
keep in mind the fact that the LSAT does not measure every  
discipline-related skill necessary for academic work, nor does it  
measure other factors important to academic success' and '[s]chools  
currently using the [presumptive system] are encouraged to modify it  
because such methods may be using the LSAT score incorrectly.'

Most law schools, like the University of Dayton, have clear and  
consistent evidence that many students with LSAT scores that fall  
below their cut-off can successfully complete law school and become  
fine representatives of the legal profession. Law schools have many  
competing objectives and we should not let a measure of skills that is  
as imperfect as the LSAT to dominate admission decisions. We certainly  
should not tolerate, much less engage in, any institutional or  
systemic racism."  Read Randall's complete study on institutional  
racism in America's law schools at http://www.allbusiness.com/legal/4097377-1.html.



Bit of History
Henry A. Giroux

"My work has always been informed by the notion that it is imperative  
to make hope practical and despair unconvincing. My focus is primarily  
on schools and the roles they play in promoting both success and  
failure among different classes and groups of students. I am  
particularly interested in the way in which schools mediate--through  
both the overt and hidden curricula--those messages and values that  
serve to privilege some groups at the expense of others. By viewing  
schools as political and cultural sites as well as instructional  
institutions, I have tried in my writings to provide educators with  
the categories and forms of analyses that will help them to become  
more critical in their pedagogies and more visionary in their  
purposes. Schools are immensely important sites for constituting  
subjectivities, and I have and will continue to argue that we need to  
make them into models of critical learning, civic courage, and active  
citizenship."  Henry A. Giroux

Henry A. Giroux was born on September 18, 1943 in Providence, Rhode  
Island. He did his undergraduate work at the University of Maine and  
earned a Masters degree from Appalachian State University.  From  
1968-75, Giroux taught high-school social studies in Barrington, Rhode  
Island. After earning his doctorate at Carnegie-Mellon in 1977, Giroux  
served as a professor of education at Boston University for six years  
before becoming an education professor and renowned scholar in  
residence at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio.  He also served as the  
founding Director of the Center for Education and Cultural Studies at  
Miami University.

In 1992, Giroux began a 12-year position in the Waterbury Chair  
Professorship at Penn State University, where he also served as the  
Director of the Waterbury Forum in Education and Cultural Studies.   
Giroux became the Global Television Network Chair in English and  
Cultural Studies at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario in 2004.   
He currently resides in Ontario with his wife, Dr. Susan Searls Giroux.

Giroux is an American cultural critic. He has been an important  
contributor to the field known as critical pedagogy. An advocate of  
radical democracy, vigorously opposing the anti-democratic tendencies  
of neoliberalism, militarism, empire, religious fundamentalism, and  
the ongoing attacks against the social state, the social wage, youth,  
the poor, and public and higher education, his most recent work  
focuses on public pedagogy, a term he coined to describe the nature of  
the spectacle and the new media, and the political and educational  
force of global culture.

Giroux has published more than 40 books and 300 academic articles.   
Since arriving at McMaster, Giroux has been a featured faculty  
lecturer, and has published nine books, including his most recent  
work, The University in Chains: Confronting the  
Military-Industrial-Academic Complex.

Giroux's writing has won many awards, including Distinguished Scholar  
(Miami University),  Visiting Distinguished Professor Award for  
1987-1988 at the University of Missouri?Kansas City, the Visiting Asa  
Knowles Chair Professorship by Northeastern University in 1995, Tokyo  
Metropolitan University Fellowship for Research (1995), Laureate  
Chapter of Kappa Delta Phi, Distinguished Visiting Lectureship in art  
education at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago in (1998 and  
1999),  winner of a Getty Research Institute Visiting Scholar Award  
(2000), Hooker Distinguished Visiting Professor at McMaster University  
(2001),  the James L. Kinneavy Award for the most outstanding article  
published in JAC (2001), the Barstow Visiting Scholar at Saginaw  
Valley State University (2003), and an Honorary Doctorate of Letters  
by Memorial University of Newfoundland (2005).  Seven of his books  
have been chosen as significant books of the year by the American  
Educational Studies Association.

Giroux was named as one of the top fifty educational thinkers of the  
modern period in Fifty Modern Thinkers on Education: From Piaget to  
the Present as part of Routledge's "Key Guides Publication Series"  
(2002).  (Sources:  http://en.wikipedia.org, www.henryagiroux.com, and  
www.21stcenturyschools.com.




Venue for an Artist
American Youth in the 21st Century: Pathologized, Criminalized and Disposable
By Henry A. Giroux

Punishment and fear have replaced compassion and social responsibility  
as the most important modalities mediating the relationship of youth  
to the larger social order. Youth within the last two decades have  
come to be seen as a source of trouble rather than as a resource for  
investing in the future, and in the case of poor black and Hispanic  
youth are increasingly treated as either a disposable population,  
cannon fodder for barbaric wars abroad, or the source of most of  
society's problems. Hence, young people now constitute a crisis that  
has less to do with improving the future  than with denying it. As  
Larry Grossberg points out, "It has become common to think of kids as  
a threat to the existing social order and for kids to be blamed for  
the problems they experience. We slide from kids in trouble, kids have  
problems, and kids are threatened, to kids as trouble, kids as  
problems, and kids as threatening." This was exemplified when the  
columnist Bob Herbert reported in the New York Times that "parts of  
New York City are like a police state for young men, women, and  
children who happen to be black or Hispanic. They are routinely  
stopped, searched, harassed, intimidated, humiliated and, in many  
cases, arrested for no good reason." No longer "viewed as a   
privileged sign and embodiment of the future," youth are now  
increasingly demonized by the popular media and derided by politicians  
looking for quick-fix solutions to crime and other social ills. While  
youth have always had to bear the misplaced fear and distrust of  
adults, how youth are represented, talked about, and treated has  
changed dramatically in the last two decades.

Under the reign of neoliberal politics with its hyped-up social  
Darwinism and theater of cruelty, the popular demonization and  
"dangerousation" of the young now justifies responses to youth that  
were unthinkable 20 years ago, including criminalization and  
imprisonment, the prescription of psychotropic drugs, psychiatric  
confinement, and zero tolerance policies that model schools after  
prisons. School has become a model for a punishing society in which  
children who commit a rule violation as minor as a dress code  
infraction or slightly act out in class can be handcuffed, booked, and  
put in a jail cell. Racism, inequality, and poverty are on full  
display in the growing resegregation of public schools in the United  
States.  Now more than ever, many schools either simply warehouse  
young black males or put them on the fast track to prison  
incarceration or a future of control under the criminal justice  
system. All across America, black and brown youth are being suspended  
or expelled at rates much higher than their white counterparts who  
commit similar behavioral infractions. For example, as Howard Witt  
writes in the Chicago Tribune, "In the average New Jersey public  
school, African-American students are almost 60 times as likely as  
white students to be expelled for serious disciplinary infractions.

In Minnesota, black students are suspended 6 times as often as whites  
[and] in Iowa, blacks make up just 5 percent of the statewide public  
school enrollment but account for 22 percent of the students who get  
suspended. . . . And on average across the nation, black students are  
suspended and expelled at nearly three times the rate of white  
students." As schools become increasingly militarized, drug-sniffing  
dogs, metal detectors, and cameras have become common features in  
schools, and administrators appear more willing if not eager "to  
criminalize many school infractions, saddling tens of thousands of  
students with misdemeanor criminal records for offenses such as  
swearing[,] disrupting class," or pushing another student. Trust and  
respect now give way to fear, disdain, and suspicion, creating an  
environment in which critical pedagogical practices wither, while  
pedagogies of surveillance and testing flourish. If young people were  
once defined as part of the vocabulary of innocence and compassion,  
they are now largely understood through the discourse of fear, guilt,  
and punishment.

Clearly, there is more at stake under the current regime of neoliberal  
politics than an attack on children largely characterized by "negative  
labels and characterizations of youth [that] are falsely totalizing"  
and punitive laws and public policies. Youth have also become  
collateral damage for conservatives and neoliberal advocates who want  
to dismantle the social state and in doing so justify themselves by  
pointing to an alleged rise of a generation of disorderly and  
dangerous youth dependent upon government entitlements. Within this  
discourse, government support for young people is both undermined and  
inappropriately blamed for creating a generation of kids labeled as  
psychologically damaged, narcissistic, violent, and out of control.  
Scapegoating youth as both a generation of suspects and a threat to  
the social order allows conservatives and neoliberals to further  
privatize those public spheres that youth need, such as education and  
health care, while developing policies that move away from social  
investment to matters of punishment and containment. In this instance,  
the punishing state combines with the logic of the market to produce  
priorities and policies that disinvest in the future of children and  
assert a ruthlessness that largely treats them as reified commodities  
or disposable populations. Both childhood and the state are now being  
reimagined in ways that reveal the priorities of a society that has  
fully embraced the reckless abandon of casino capitalism, where the  
only rules that matter are made to order by powerful corporations and  
rich investors. How else to interpret neoliberal-inspired government  
programs that in the midst of deepening inequality, rising levels of  
poverty, catastrophic increases in failed mortgages, and growing  
unemployment invest more in prisons than in public and higher education?

It is more necessary than ever to register youth as a theoretical,  
moral, and political center of concern, even as it is increasingly  
evident that youth are one of our lowest national priorities. It is  
crucial to connect the current crisis in democracy to the war against  
young people. Doing so will remind adults of their ethical and  
political responsibility to invest in youth as a symbol for not only  
securing a democratic future but also keeping alive those elements of  
civic imagination, culture, and education that subordinate economic  
principles to democratic values. The category of youth may be one of  
the most important referents for beginning a critical examination  
about the pernicious consequences of a society driven by market  
values, one that not only abstracts young people from the future but  
shapes the present in a theater of war in which youth become the most  
innocent victims. Youth provide a powerful touchstone for a critical  
discussion about the long-term consequences of neoliberal policies,  
which undermine any viable notion of justice, equality, and freedom,  
while also gesturing toward those conditions that make a democratic  
future possible. Many young people are part of social movements that  
not only address these crucial issues but also provide a politics,  
modes of resistance, and connective relations that adults should take  
seriously as part of their own civic and political formation at the  
beginning of the new millennium.

About Me: The above passage comes from the book, Youth in a Suspect  
Society: Democracy or Disposability?  By Henry A. Giroux, who  
currently chairs the Global TV Network Professorship at McMaster  
University in the English and Cultural  Studies Department.




Hood Notes
Ugly Truth: Most U.S. Kids Sentenced to Die In Prison Are Black
By Liliana Segura

On Monday, the U.S. Supreme Court heard two cases that could have  
major implications for the way juvenile offenders are treated in our  
criminal justice system. Sullivan v. Florida and Graham v. Florida  
both involve men who are serving life without the possibility of  
parole for crimes they were convicted of as teenagers -- crimes in  
which no one was killed.

Monday's oral arguments covered a lot of ground, including whether  
life-without-parole is comparable to the death penalty (which has been  
banned for juveniles); whether the purpose, ultimately, is about  
deterrence or retribution -- "What is the State's interest in keeping  
... the defendant in custody for the rest of his life if he has been  
rehabilitated and is no longer a real danger?" -- whether, for  
sentencing purposes, there's any practical difference between a  
13-year-old or a 10-year-old -- or, for that matter, an 18-year-old  
and a 17-and-11-month-old ("the line has to be drawn somewhere.") At  
points, it got downright philosophical ("Why does a juvenile have a  
constitutional right to hope, but an adult does not?" asked Justice  
Kennedy.) But at the center of the argument was the question of  
whether children -- and their potential for rehabilitation -- should  
be judged by the same standards as that of grown-ups. "To not  
recognize the difference between a child and an adult is cruel and  
unusual," defense attorney Bryan Stevenson told Justice Antonin Scalia.

Conspicuously absent from the oral arguments, however, was any  
discussion of race. The one time Stevenson attempted to mention it, as  
one of the "arbitrary features" of the distribution of  
life-without-parole sentences -- these prisoners are  
"disproportionately kids of color," Stevenson said -- he was  
interrupted by Justice Alito, who questioned the reliability of his  
statistics. ("What is your response to the State's argument that these  
statistics are not peer-reviewed?" he asked.)

It can be tricky to pin down exact numbers when it comes to specific  
prison populations from state to state, particularly given the  
differences between sentencing statutes across the country. And states  
have not traditionally kept track of how many juveniles are in their  
adult prisons. But when it comes to juvenile lifers, there are some  
figures that have been widely accepted (and not contested by the state  
of Florida.)

"There are 73 children 14 and younger who have been imprisoned for  
life without parole," Stevenson told the Court. "...For the age of 13  
and younger, there are only nine kids, and that's including both kids  
convicted of homicide and non-homicide. For non-homicide, there are  
only two. They are both in Florida and Joe Sullivan is one of them."

What he did not get to say is that of the vast majority of kids who  
are sentenced to die in prison are black.  This is unfortunate. Racism  
has been central to the policies that led to the rise in life  
sentences for juveniles in the first place -- and not just in Florida.  
The Supreme Court may rely on legal precedents to make their decisions  
-- but that does not mean it necessarily considers history.

Barry Krisberg, president of the National Council on Crime and  
Delinquency, wrote in 2005 that in the years that followed the  
hysteria over superpredators, "More than 40 states made it easier to  
transfer children to adult criminal courts. Educators enacted  
'zero-tolerance' policies to make it easier to expel youngsters from  
school, and numerous communities adopted youth curfews. Many  
jurisdictions turned to metal detectors in public schools, random  
locker searches, drug tests for athletes and mandatory school uniforms.

The panic was bipartisan. Every crime bill debated by Congress during  
the Clinton administration included new federal laws against juvenile  
crime. Paradoxically, as Attorney General Janet Reno advocated for  
wider and stronger social safety nets for vulnerable families,  
President Bill Clinton joined congressional leaders demanding tougher  
treatment of juvenile felons, including more incarceration in both the  
adult and youth correctional systems.

Paving the way was the Sunshine State. "Florida led the country in  
transferring juveniles into the adult courts," says Stephen K. Harper,  
a University of Miami professor who teaches juvenile law. At the same  
time, adult sentences were getting longer. In 1983, Florida abolished  
parole for most crimes, and in 1995, it got rid of parole altogether.  
"Adolescents were being transferred into the adult system, while  
simultaneously the adult system was becoming more punitive," Harper  
told AlterNet.

Today, the results are a bit perverse. According to Florida State Law  
Professor Paolo Annino, "Florida takes the lead in placing the  
youngest children in the adult prison system.  The most recent Florida  
data shows, there is 1 inmate who was 10, 4 inmates who were 11, 5  
inmates who were 12, and 31 inmates who were 13 years old at the time  
of their offense."

Annino and Harper both point to what Harper calls the "unintended  
consequences" of Florida's rush to incarcerate juveniles. "In 1983 and  
1995, the Florida Legislature did not contemplate that hundreds of  
children would be sent to adult prison in the last two decades,"  
Annino wrote earlier this year. But before the Court, Florida  
Solicitor General Scott D. Makar defended Florida's large juvenile  
lifer population, suggesting that the state knew exactly what it was  
doing. "I believe Florida is very balanced," he told Scalia during  
oral arguments in Graham v. Florida.

Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum agrees. In his brief filed in  
Graham, McCollum argues that it was Florida's brand of tough-on-crime  
legislation that led to falling crime rates in the late 1990s -- a  
claim that law professors Jeffrey Fagan and Franklin E. Zimring call  
"as phony as last decade's crime scare."

"As a member of Congress in the 1990s," they wrote, "[McCollum]  
promised the United States a 'coming storm' of superpredators as a  
result of a population surge of kids from fatherless homes."  This, of  
course was the claim pushed by John DiIulio, the only difference being  
that, more than a decade later, McCollum still seems determined to  
believe it.

The "superpredator" myth -- and the racism that breathed life into it  
-- has been a driving force behind the rush to incarcerate youths of  
color across the country for years. That the human effects would go  
undiscussed by the Court may come as no surprise given the justices'  
routine upholding of other laws that disproportionately affect people  
and families of color. But in a country with 2.3 million prisoners,  
leaving race completely out of the decision would not just be willful  
ignorance; it would amount to what Bryan Stevenson has called an  
"appalling silence."

This excerpt comes from the second part of a two-part series posted by  
Liliana Segura, an AlterNet staff writer and editor of Rights &  
Liberties and World Special Coverage.  Her work can be found at   
http://twitter.com/LilianaSegura.



Politics Y2K9
Stacking the Deck Against Kids
By Bob Herbert

Every year at Thanksgiving, parts of the Upper West Side of Manhattan  
become like a paradise for children. There's the exciting preparation  
of the balloons and floats for the Thanksgiving Day parade, and then,  
on Thursday morning, the parade itself.

The weather isn't always kind. I've seen the kids out there in snow,  
in freezing rain, in winds that threaten to send the balloons and  
their handlers soaring to distant venues. It doesn't seem to matter.  
The children come into the neighborhood in waves, holding the hands of  
adults or riding atop their shoulders, smiling, laughing, playing  
hide-and-seek among the police barricades. Finally, inevitably, they  
end up staring in absolute open-mouthed, wide-eyed awe as the mammoth,  
colorful helium-filled creations of their favorite characters begin  
making their majestic way down Central Park West.

We have an obligation and an opportunity at this special moment in  
history to do right by these youngsters, and all the rest of America's  
kids. It's a special moment because we've seen so clearly the many  
things that have gone haywire in the society, and while it may not be  
easy to articulate, we have a sense of what needs to be done.

The American economy is broken, ruined by the greed and  
irresponsibility of fabulously wealthy corporate chieftains and their  
shabby acolytes and enablers in government. While Wall Street is  
handing out billions in bonuses, American families are struggling with  
joblessness, home foreclosures and rampant debt. The economic woes are  
exacting a fierce toll on family life, and children are taking a big  
hit - emotionally, psychologically and otherwise.

One effect of the Great Recession, according to a recent series in The  
Times, has been a big jump in the number of runaway children, many of  
them living in dangerous conditions on the street.

Family homelessness is also up, and poverty is increasing. More than a  
third of all black children in America are poor, and that tragic  
percentage is expanding. The outlook for America's working classes is  
bleak. A few weeks ago a New York cab driver nearly broke down in  
tears as he told me he'd had to apply for food stamps to continue  
feeding his family.

A sense of urgency may be starting to emerge. With President Obama's  
jobs summit approaching, representatives from labor and progressive  
organizations gathered in Washington to warn of the lasting damage  
being inflicted on the prospects of young Americans by the continuing  
employment crisis.

Millions of youngsters like those who were suffused with such delight  
at the Thanksgiving Day parade are being buffeted by an economy that  
is eroding their quality of life, curtailing their educational  
opportunities and undermining their prospects for economic success as  
adults. That more attention is not being paid to this growing disaster  
is criminal.

Groups represented at the meeting in Washington, which was sponsored  
by the Economic Policy Institute, included the A.F.L.-C.I.O., the  
Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, the N.A.A.C.P., the National  
Council of La Raza and the Center for Community Change. Among other  
things, they urged the administration and Congress to provide  
substantial additional relief to economically distressed state and  
local governments, to invest in much more widespread infrastructure  
improvements, and to engage in some direct government creation of jobs.

All of that, in my view, would amount to just a first step. We remain  
stuck in an economic model that not only permits but encourages the  
continued existence of financial institutions that are too big to  
fail, which means that when one or more of them fail - as will surely  
happen at some point - we'll again be rushing to "save the system" by  
bailing them out at taxpayers' expense.

The system remains grotesquely unfair, with the deck stacked against  
working people, even as we're desperate to have them sustain the  
economy with nonstop consumer purchases. Keep in mind that at the  
start of the recession the collective wealth of the richest 1 percent  
of Americans was greater than that of the bottom 90 percent combined.  
The economic and political clout of that bottom 90 percent has only  
weakened since then.

We still have a hideously dysfunctional public education system, one  
that has mastered the art of manufacturing dropouts and functional  
illiterates. We have not even begun to turn that around.

We still keep fighting tragic, futile, stupid wars, squandering lives  
and resources and creative energies that could be put to use right  
here at home, where the need for nation-building is beyond critical.

The U.S. should be a paradise for young people. We need big changes in  
this country, approaches that are constructive, creative and  
fundamentally new, if we're going to give those smiling kids I saw on  
Thanksgiving Day the kind of society they deserve.  (Source:   
www.nytimes.com)



Disgruntled wants to know: On November 16, the Australian government  
offered an official apology to the Forgotten Australians, survivors of  
the roughly 500,000 children who were sent to orphanages or Homes  
between 1930 and 1970.  These children, who were separated from their  
families, endured neglect, exploitation, brutality and, in some  
instances, sexual abuse, poor health care and education; many came  
from British families struggling with severe poverty or from  
institutions in the UK.  Once in Australia, institutions changed their  
names and told them their parents were dead, erasing their personal  
history and creating a loss of identity.  Survivors, in their forties  
and older, cried when Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and  
Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull delivered their statements of  
apology.  According to Rudd, "Great evil has been done."  The British  
government is considering issuing an apology for its role in this  
tragedy.  One wonders, when will the healing tears flow in the US as  
our nation hears an apology for slavery and the centuries of racism  
and discrimination against black Americans?

Disgruntled says: Nobody was surprised when President Obama ordered an  
additional 30,000 troops to Afghanistan.  Some, especially those who  
oppose wars of empire and voted for him, may have been surprised that  
he sounded like George W. Bush when he invoked 9-11 and the threat of  
al-Qaida as justification for continuing to remain in the "graveyard  
of empires," as Afghanistan is known.  While Obama played the game of  
being deliberative for public relations purposes, only a fool would  
believe the decision to continue this imperial war was not made long  
before General McChrystal broke protocol and declared what he believed  
needed to be done to win this war ? thousands of  more bodies.   This  
war in Afghanistan will go the way of the war waged by the Soviet  
Union and the warmongers before it that sought to tame this rugged  
region.  Those in power, the ones that command Obama, will no doubt  
get richer for spending US treasure and squandering lives under the  
pretext of denying al-Qaida a safe haven, while plundering  
Afghanistan's natural resources, but the US will not win this war,  
because there is nothing to win. US national security is not  
threatened by the people of Afghanistan.

Disgruntled feels:  Desperation!  The black middle class has all but  
disappeared down the rabbit hole of the Great Recession.  There is a  
great deal of speculation that this class of blacks will not reappear  
any time soon.  And, with its absence from the US economic landscape,  
the gap between rich and poor, black and white grows.  
Disproportionately victimized by a society that rewards skin color  
before skills and education, blacks are in a state of depression,  
while the first black president routinely recites statistics  
suggesting the economy is on the rebound.  There is a disconnect,  
since he talks of a rising tide lifting all boats, while blacks own no  
such asset and are treading water to remain afloat!  In this season  
that is supposed to be filled with holiday cheer, peace, love and  
happiness, there is a sense of desperation in black communities across  
this country.  Anyone who believes there will be no repercussions  
lacks a sense of history and a basic understanding of what happens  
when a society's poverty and misery  are disproportionately borne by  
minority groups.  Desperation has a tendency to explode and its  
shrapnel does not engage in discrimination.




Mailbox: E-Mails, Faxes and Phone Calls

Email Nightwolfjw at aol.com... Jay Winter Nightwolf's Native American  
Winter Relief Project 2009 Continues ...We Need Your Help NOW!!!  The  
poorest people in America live on American Indian Reservations and  
communities. Many of our elders, children and families go without  
adequate housing, which most of us would never consider occupying.  
There is very little, if any wholesome food and no money to buy  
propane to stay warm this winter. Temperatures fall below zero with a  
wind chill factor of as low 85 below in North & South Dakota. Every  
year we lose elders from hypothermia and hunger. The average life  
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again this year.  If you would like to help email Nightwolfjw at aol.com

Email www.nytimes.com ...In Job Hunt, College Degree Can't Close  
Racial Gap...By Michael Luo...That race remains a serious obstacle in  
the job market for African-Americans, even those with degrees from  
respected colleges, may seem to some people a jarring contrast to  
decades of progress by blacks, culminating in President Obama's  
election.  But there is ample evidence that racial inequities remain  
when it comes to employment.  Black joblessness has long far  
outstripped that of whites. And strikingly, the disparity for the  
first 10 months of this year, as the recession has dragged on, has  
been even more pronounced for those with college degrees, compared  
with those without. Education, it seems, does not level the playing  
field - in fact, it appears to have made it more uneven.   
College-educated black men, especially, have struggled relative to  
their white counterparts in this downturn, according to figures from  
the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The unemployment rate for black male  
college graduates 25 and older in 2009 has been nearly twice that of  
white male college graduates - 8.4 percent compared with 4.4 percent.


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From jbatec at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  6 19:12:53 2009
From: jbatec at yahoo.com (Judy Miriga)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:12:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] pray for my family
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Kuria,
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We will remember you in our Prayers and God will see you through.? Just be strong.
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God's Mercy be upon you.

Judy Miriga 
Diaspora Spokesperson 
Executive Director 
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc., 
USA 
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com


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Hi good people, pls pray for my family at these trying times following demise of my daughter.

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From prcanb at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  6 21:57:32 2009
From: prcanb at yahoo.com (Absalom Birai)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:57:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] pray for my family
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@Kuria,

My thoughts and prayers are with you at this very challenging moments.
I pray that the good Lord give you the comfort that you need at this your greatest hour of need.

Blessings.

Pr Birai

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From dafalaibrahim at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  6 21:13:36 2009
From: dafalaibrahim at yahoo.com (dafala ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:13:36 -0800 (PST)
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Receive my condelences Mr. Kuria Mwangi- may the good Lord give you and your family strength to endure the pain that comes with losing a dear one. Pole sana.

Dafala.




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Hi good people, pls pray for my family at these trying times following demise of my daughter.

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From rsyokau at lloydmasika.co.ke  Sun Dec  6 23:02:56 2009
From: rsyokau at lloydmasika.co.ke (Rose Syokau)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 07:02:56 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] NOTHING JUST HAPPENS!
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Nothing Just Happens! 
 
>From time to time we have questions about our life and we are unable to rest
without answers 
 
We want to ask why. 
There have been times I know I ask God to just let me die.
The pain and issues in my life appeared to overwhelm me. 
But God knew all about it, and now I can clearly see. 
How He was working EVERYTHING out for my good. 
 
Nothing just happens by chance. 
God can turn your circumstance around as quick as a glance. 
Our timing is not the same as His.
 
We are a microwave society and we want everything now.
Are we willing to humble ourselves and bow?
And say, "Whatever it takes, LORD."
 
No matter what's going on around you continue to walk upright. 
The LORD said he will fight your battles for you, you need not fight. 
The LORD said he will make your enemies your footstools. 
The LORD said trust in Him with all your heart, lean not to your own
understanding. 
The LORD said he would never leave us or forsake us. 
The Word of God has many promises in it for us. 
Us who say it is in God that we totally trust. 
 
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From rsyokau at lloydmasika.co.ke  Sun Dec  6 23:09:48 2009
From: rsyokau at lloydmasika.co.ke (Rose Syokau)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 07:09:48 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] pray for my family
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Pole Sana Kuria & family!
 
When Others Grieve
 
People should never have to suffer loss alone. Yet, how do you comfort those
who hurt? I think that offering genuine comfort to another is one of the
most important things we can do for others. And sometimes one of the most
difficult.
 
Experts tell us, among other things, to simply say, "I'm sorry" or "I love
you." They warn us against trying explain away the death or loss; against
theologizing or philosophizing about it. Often, the less said, the better,
so long as you are present, you care and you listen.
 
American poet Edgar Guest told of a neighbor by the name of Jim Potter. Mr.
Potter ran the drug store in the neighborhood where Edgar Guest lived. Their
relationship was cordial, if not deep. Mostly they smiled and exchanged
greetings when they happened to see one another.
 
One tragic night the poet's first-born child died. He felt crushed and
overcome with grief. Several days after the death, Guest had reason to go to
the drug store run by his neighbor. When he entered, Jim Potter motioned for
him to come behind the counter.
 
"Eddie," he said, "I really can't express to you the great sympathy that I
have for you at this time. All I can say is that I am terribly sorry, and if
you need for me to do anything, you can count on me."
 
Many years later Edgar Guest reflected on that encounter. He said, "Just a
person across the way -- a passing acquaintance. Jim Potter may have long
since forgotten that moment when he extended his hand to me in sympathy, but
I shall never forget it -- never in all my life.
To me it stands out like the silhouette of a lonely tree against a crimson
sunset."
 
As the poet thought back to that unhappy time, one vivid memory of a brief
and genuine moment of comfort still lingered years later. It was a moment
that meant everything to a grieving father.
 
Those who comfort others bring no less than a piece of heaven to earth.
 
Take heart my brother!
 
 
 
  _____  

From: Kuria, Mwangi [mailto:MKuria at kcb.co.ke] 
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:06 AM
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Subject: [YP_Ke] pray for my family
 
Hi good people, pls pray for my family at these trying times following
demise of my daughter.

Regards
John Kuria, Nairobi

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Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:49:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] PROFILE-QUEST MARK CONSULTANTS
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From atandip at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 02:13:43 2009
From: atandip at yahoo.com (peter ayima)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 23:13:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Another gay/lesbian clergy controversy!
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Hi Birai,
Our God changes not. He is the same yesterday till tomorrow. What he hated yesterday He will hate tomorrow. Can we get His thought on gay in Roman chapter 1. We must stand with that regardless. If we dont please God, does it matter whom we please?




________________________________
From: Absalom Birai <prcanb at yahoo.com>
To: "youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com" <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 4:56:51 AM
Subject: [YP_Ke] Another gay/lesbian clergy controversy!

It has happened again and as you can expect, it has started another fight among the Anglican believers in particular and by extension,the entire Christian community. I heard it over the radio this morning. An Anglican  diocese in USA has appointed a lesbian as an associate clergy/bishop and the immediate reaction has been mixed-some approving and others condemning it.

In their discussion this morning, one view was that as long as the diocese accepts it,that is OK.As I listened to the discussion,I would not help but wonder?

1. How does God react to all this kind of confusion?
2. Does the Bible count any more?
3. Are there any qualifications for those who accept the calling to be co workers in God's vineyard?
4. I know that such issues almost always turn ugly but how can we enter into a meaningful exchange of ideas? What's the solution to all these? Whose voice should we listen to?

Just wondering loud this Sunday morning.

Pr Birai
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From amosogal at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 02:33:12 2009
From: amosogal at gmail.com (Lee Makwiny)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:33:12 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] ADVICE ON CAR INSUARANCE
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Mildren,

It is possible!

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Washindu, Mildren <mwashindu at kcb.co.ke>wrote:

>  Solomon,
>
> Is it possible to take an insurance cover for a whole year and pay by
> installment from your company?  Say 3 or 4 times
>
> Mildren
>
>
>
> *From:* Solomon Ojoo [mailto:ojoo at starlit.co.ke]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:39 AM
> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [YP_Ke] ADVICE ON CAR INSUARANCE
>
>
>
> Let me highlight some things about insurance law and practice.
>
>
>
> In every purchase of an asset, there is always something called goodwill.
> This can be negative or positive goodwill.
>
>
>
> Somebody can sell you an asset way above the market price. This will mean
> that the buyer will pay some goodwill.
>
>
>
> Another may dispose an asset at at a price lower than the market value.
> This means that the seller has lost some goodwill.
>
>
>
> Now coming to insurance law and practice, there is a clause called *"AVERAGE
> CLAUSE".* This simply penalize people who over-insure or underinsure their
> properties. The practice simply prohibits under and/or over insurance or
> selective Insurance.
>
>
>
> *PENALTY IN UNDERINSURANCE SCENARIO*
>
>
>
> If the market value of your car is 1million  but you insure it at 800,000.
> The insurance law *(Average Clause)* assumes that you have only
> transferred/ insured  80% of your risk. Should a claim occur of whatsoever
> nature, you will only be compensated 80% of the claim. That means that if
> your car is damaged through accident and the cost of repair is 100,000/=,
> you will pay 20,000  + the excess applicable and the insurance pays
> 80,000/=.if the car is lost or written off you will only be compensated 80%
> of 800,000.
>
>
>
> *PENALTY IN OVERINSURANCE SCENARIO*
>
>
>
> If the market value of your car is 800,000 and you insure it at 1million.
> You will pay the premium for 1 million but when a claim occurs and the
> vehicle is stolen or written off, you will only be compensated 800,000/= and
> the extra premium you paid on the 200,000 may not be recovered. This is
> called  "*LAW OF INDEMNITY" *which prohibits making profit in insurance
> but puts you back to your financial position shortly before the loss
> occurred.
>
>
>
> Otherwise why would I not over insure my car worth 500,000/- for 1million
> and burn it and claim 1 million by only paying a premium of 4%  of 1 million
> to get rich.
>
>
>
> *SO KINDLY VALUE YOUR CARS BEFORE TAKING INSURANCE TO AVOID LOSING YOUR
> CAPITAL*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ?
>
> *Kind Regards,*
>
>
>
> *SOLOMON O. OJOO*
>
>
>
> *BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT UNIT.*
>
> *STARLIT INSURANCE BROKERS LTD.*
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
> *(T / WIRELESS) *254-20- 201 6007 .
>
> *(F)* 254 ? 20 ? 3677 000. *(E)* ojoo at starlit.co.ke
>
>
>
> *-------Original Message-------*
>
>
>
> *From:* kenneth karware <kenne_za at yahoo.co.uk>
>
> *Date:* 02/12/2009 17:34:12
>
> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* [YP_Ke] ADVICE ON CAR INSUARANCE
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I recently imported a car from japan, but when i took it for valuation so
> that i can insure it
>
>  E
>
> it was valued more than i bought it my like 100,000. I have a feeling the
> isuarance guys
>
>  E
>
> want me to just pay them higher premiums. Is it ok i insure for the sum
> that i bought
>
>
>
> the car. What are the implications of this
>
> --- On *Wed, 2/12/09, Moderator YP_Ke <youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com>*wrote:
>
>
> From: Moderator YP_Ke <youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re : am from DRC KINSHASA
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 7:58
>
> That reminds of another interaction i had with a French & and English
> expatriate.
> We were to move from point A to point  B, but due to vehicle constraints &
> we were many we had to share the available vehicles. So the french wanted to
> ask whether there is a space in our vehicle for him to get a ride, and i
> guess from french to english that came to "Do you have a room in your
> vehicle?"
>
> And the Englishman was slow to understand what he meant so he retorted. "A
> room in my car?*!" He was wondering where on earth does cars have a built-in
> rooms
>
> --
> Regards
> YP_Ke Group Moderator
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Gichuru <johngichuru2004 at gmail.com<http://uk.mc240.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=johngichuru2004 at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> K'Onyiego,
>
> I read your and Mbila's post with a smile. I have come back from Kinshasa
> and I discovered that those who attempted to speak to me in English used
> that expression, "what is your problem?" quite a lot. Luckily I speak French
> and I know it is a direct translation from French, and that they do not mean
> to be rude.
>
>
>
> This is similar to that incident with that contenstant from Rwanda in TPF3,
> who after getting a piece of Ian's mind replied, "it doesnt matter". He was
> not meaning to be rude, he only translated a French expression directly to
> English. So Peterson should relax and actually go ahead and contact Mbila
> for the assistance. In short, Mbila simply means, "how can I be of help?"
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschurch at yahoo.com<http://uk.mc240.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jairuschurch at yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Most interesting. You get what you ask for. And right here Peterson asked
> for a Person from DRC, and sure he got one Mbila Wabenya who can "speack
> Very well french". Perteson, What is your problem? Olobaki nini? Mbongo?
> Ozamona!
>
>
>
> You better hook up with Mbeya very fast.
>
> Tokomonana.
>
>
>
> K'Onyiego
>
> --- On *Tue, 12/1/09, Mbila Wabenya <mbilawabenya at yahoo.fr<http://uk.mc240.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mbilawabenya at yahoo.fr>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Mbila Wabenya <mbilawabenya at yahoo.fr<http://uk.mc240.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mbilawabenya at yahoo.fr>
> >
> Subject: [YP_Ke] Re : am from DRC KINSHASA
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com<http://uk.mc240.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 3:16 AM
>
>
>
> -
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *De :* Sir Peterson <sirpetersonjr at gmail.com<http://uk.mc240.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sirpetersonjr at gmail.com>
> >
> *? :* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com<http://uk.mc240.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
> *Envoy? le :* Mar 1 D?cembre 2009, 14 h 12 min 37 s
> *Objet :* [YP_Ke] RE: Are you from DRC, Zambia or Zimbabwe.
>
> I CAN FROM KINSHASA IN DRC AND I HAVE MARIED BUT I HAVE 4 CHILDREN
> I SPEACK VERRY WELL FRENCH.
> WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?
>
> *Dear Young Professionals,
> Am from Nairobi, Kenya and am looking for someone from either Kinsasha in
> the DRC, Lusaka Zambia or Harare Zimbabwe. If you are from any of these
> countries, kindly contact me ASAP through email: kipcopi at gmail.com<http://us.mc621.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kipcopi at gmail.com>
> *
>
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> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
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>
>
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> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
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> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
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>
>
>
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> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:00pm
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From amosogal at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 07:11:33 2009
From: amosogal at gmail.com (Lee Makwiny)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:11:33 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] SHOULD RAILA BE VERY WORRIED?
In-Reply-To: <23207d9b0912070322l28f7e5e9x4d58274026ce5f7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23207d9b0912070322l28f7e5e9x4d58274026ce5f7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <594ded440912070411u3662ee97od97132f2279e6d49@mail.gmail.com>

Dan, have you read the harmonized draft? Pay close attention what it says
about electing the president! OK. There is 50% + 1vote. That?s where the
catch is. Raila is building his base and so far things seem to go according
to his plan. By Ruto parading Jirongo, Uhuru et al he is only succeeding in
portraying YK92 group. This group reminds people of the dark days of Kanu
and that?s where Ruto has failed. He is bound to fail again with his clamour
for "generational change", while they were busy building empire with money
from the public coffers in the name of sololo outlets, the people who were
truly for "generational change" were either in detention without trial or in
exile. People like Gitobu Imanyara, James Orengo, Ogego Ratego, Onyango
Oloo, are better placed to talk about the 'generational change".



Mutahi Ngunyi has all the right to write his articles. But of late he has
been of the mark. It is coming clearly from his writing that his target is
one. Raila Amolo Odinga. If he were fair, he would explain to us how Raila
is bound to loose and the other sunday, how Ruto/Uhuru et al are bound to
gain! He is executing the plans of his pay master. Remember he is a on hire
just like Dick Morris!



To me, Raila is in a different league. For how long will Ruto keep on
regretting? Regretting about supporting Raila, regretting Uhuru loosing in
2002. Good leaders learn from such mistakes and they don't remind us
everyday. On Mau, Kenyans are with RAO, the people's president!


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com> wrote:

> YPs,
>
> Recent developments in the political arena have been about two
> fellows, the PM and Ruto, previously close allies.
>
> Ruto marshalled 56 MPs including ten ministers in a few days to his
> MAU harambee. Going by Kenya's election traditions where tribal kings
> dictate how the followers vote, his Rift valley block votes may not go
> to Raila again. Thus for Raila to win an election, he need a similar
> block of votes to replace that block.
>
> I doubt he can get a replacement block from Eastern or Central (being
> the other blocks that did not vote him in) since their Chiefs, read
> Uhuru and Kalonzo, are in alliance with Ruto. Without these three
> blocks of Rift valley, Eastern, Central (and probably Nairobi since
> the three blocks residents would make a majority here) he can as well
> forget a majority win.
>
> I tend to agree with Mutahi Ngunyi's latest assessment that all forces
> that Raila has trampled on, are now on his neck. This would include
> the president, Ruto, Uhuru, Kalonzo, Moi, Kanu, PNU etc...
>
> For now they may appear non-starters against the PM since the issue at
> hand, the MAU, the population supports the PM. However, the issues
> will change and such an alliance can be lethal once it gains momentum.
> The PM needs to stop this alliance taking shape coz if it does, he
> wont be able to stop it and if they can convince their followers, that
> can be dangerous to his political survival.
>
> Way out for PM? I cant really see how. He should be really worried.
> Isnt it sad that politicians can work all their lives to improve
> living standards of their people only to be wiped out once they fall
> out with the big guys. Isnt it sad that Raila is working hard to
> restore the MAU for future generations but the trouble he has got
> into, may mess his hard fought ambitions? Can our politics ever be
> issue based?
>
> If it wont be PM at the helm, i expect a miracle President to come and
> save us coz i cant figure out how the KKK alliance can do any good for
> the country now that they may dislodge our man.
>
>
> --
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>
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>
> Albert Einstein (Attributed)
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>
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From amosogal at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 07:51:22 2009
From: amosogal at gmail.com (Lee Makwiny)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:51:22 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] Fw: [YP_Ke] CHICKS FLASHING CARELESSLY
In-Reply-To: <F26F90357DE94314A54E48E97F6F006B@FKiliswa>
References: <F26F90357DE94314A54E48E97F6F006B@FKiliswa>
Message-ID: <594ded440912070451v393720b6n957d3ea8c2026f1b@mail.gmail.com>

Felix, you must be ready to load their phones and tell them never to flash
you as long as you continue loading their phones.

Personally, i have looked for the bamba10 without success todate. I wonder
where they sell them. So I am sure I will get bamba5

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Faith Kiliswa <faith at ansetintl.com> wrote:

>
>
> you have hit right on the head !!!!
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Solomon Ojoo <ojoo at starlit.co.ke>
> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>   *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2009 3:15 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [YP_Ke] CHICKS FLASHING CARELESSLY
>
>   *IF YOU CONTINUE HAVING CHICKS, THEN THEY WILL FLASH.*
>
> *BUT I ADVISE YOU START DEALING WITH LADIES.*
>
>
>  *-------Original Message-------*
>
>  *From:* Felix Otieno <rakwach at gmail.com>
> *Date:* 12/07/09 14:58:22
> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [YP_Ke] CHICKS FLASHING CARELESSLY
>
>
> Hi YPs,
>  What has become of our women today? Safaricom introduced bamba 5 and
> chicks still have the audacity to flash. Am I missing something here?
> --
> RegardsART
>
> Felix.O
> P.o.Box 18766-00100
> Nairobi
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> Nairobi
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From andy.lokong at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 05:43:44 2009
From: andy.lokong at gmail.com (Andy)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 02:43:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: Islam & Kadhis Courts
In-Reply-To: <c37ee6fe0912040709x1321eeeeqcc5e2022ab28702b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <290988.89044.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<c37ee6fe0912040709x1321eeeeqcc5e2022ab28702b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4b1c6db8-1aae-4f3c-a539-f797533fd36e@o33g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>

Faiza,

What are you talking about? that christians fear death but are
extremists? I find this conclusion far fetched and without basis. You
know violence is not only the preserve of muslims! Our Christian
brothers in South Sudan fought against sharia law imposed on them
without consultation by the Islamists of the North - now they are a
free lot. All over Africa...Christians have fought for what they
believe in. Some have gone to war on even petty matters..this to me is
not cowardice!

I do not need to be promised 72 virgins to die for what I believe
in...I will die on my feet and not on my knees.
The constitution should not include Kadhi courts or accord any
religion special status. If we have to go to war over this matter so
be it!

Andy

On Dec 4, 6:09?pm, Faiza Hassan <antiho... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jecton is an extremist. Extremism is not in Islam only. They are also
> in christianity but they fear death.
>

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From prcanb at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  6 07:56:51 2009
From: prcanb at yahoo.com (Absalom Birai)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 04:56:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Another gay/lesbian clergy controversy!
Message-ID: <885186.14068.qm@web38706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It has happened again and as you can expect, it has started another fight among the Anglican believers in particular and by extension,the entire Christian community. I heard it over the radio this morning. An Anglican  diocese in USA has appointed a lesbian as an associate clergy/bishop and the immediate reaction has been mixed-some approving and others condemning it.

In their discussion this morning, one view was that as long as the diocese accepts it,that is OK.As I listened to the discussion,I would not help but wonder?

1. How does God react to all this kind of confusion?
2. Does the Bible count any more?
3. Are there any qualifications for those who accept the calling to be co workers in God's vineyard?
4. I know that such issues almost always turn ugly but how can we enter into a meaningful exchange of ideas? What's the solution to all these? Whose voice should we listen to?

Just wondering loud this Sunday morning.

Pr Birai
www.pastorbirai.com





      

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From paul at jadecom.co.ke  Sun Dec  6 08:55:04 2009
From: paul at jadecom.co.ke (paul at jadecom.co.ke)
Date: Sun,  6 Dec 2009 16:55:04 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Thankful & Grateful- Offering a Free Seminar
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Dear Members,

What a year this has been! Challenges and Opportunities!Mountain top, Valley low
experiences, but in all l have found reason to be Grateful and Thankful.

As the year draws to an end, as a sign of my gratitude, I'm looking to conduct 
"3 free One-day Public Speaking Seminars" to Young people between the ages of
16- 20 yrs.I want to motivate and empower them with skills, that will definitely
come in handy in their future.

As a member of this group, if you  work with young people and can bring them
together in order for me to train them within the next three weeks,please drop
me an email at paul at jadecom.co.ke.

I would also encourage each member to volunteer their skills and time, to
empower others this season and remember to be Thankful and Grateful for all you
have gone through in 2009.

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From otieno.david at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 00:22:17 2009
From: otieno.david at gmail.com (OKELLO David Otieno)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 08:22:17 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: Commodity traders
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From eoyugi at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 01:20:29 2009
From: eoyugi at yahoo.com (Ernest OYUGI)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:20:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] KISUMU SECURITY
In-Reply-To: <01A7CEFE76646D4BBA97ACE1E9EE79EC173B0535@BARUAPEPE.kcbad.com>
Message-ID: <255088.7739.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Please forward to as many Kisumu Residents in your contact as soon as possible.
>
>
>
>>
> As informed on Wednesday, we now have a new DC who is concerned and
> pro-active on Security.
>
> As a first step to full fledged community policing in partnership with
> the public, he has initiated a program that will second 2 armed police
> officers to vehicles of Private Security firms operating in town daily
> from 6.00pm to 6.00am.
>
> The vehicles will all be separately located at high risk known crime
> areas of the town and will respond to distress calls from ANY resident
> of Kisumu through Police HQ Control Room.
>
>
>
> If any resident falls victim all one has to do is alert the Police
> control room or one of below as per contacts:
>
>
>
> Senior DC - Mr. Mabeya Mugaka - 0714 062256
>
>
>
> DO1 - Mr. Cheriyot - 0725 824184 - on call 24/7
>
>
>
> OCPD Kisumu - 0722 821134
>
>
>
> DCIO - 0722 744547
>
>
>
> Chief inspector of AP's - 0721 291043
>
>
>
> Police Control Room - 020 3529027
>
>
>
> Police Hotline - 020 3531879
>
>
>
> Kondele police Hotline - 020 3531880
>
>
>
> SRC (Special response) - 0722 213896.
>
>
>
> Please circulate to as many kisumu residents as possible.
>
> Enjoy your weekend. 
>
> Regards,
>

Ernest



      

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From blessedmoses at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 01:08:15 2009
From: blessedmoses at gmail.com (MOSES HAYA)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:08:15 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] FINISHING WELL
Message-ID: <cf2024960912062208x1a280997sb305ad015f69ad55@mail.gmail.com>

Finishing Well
Ken Boa

We sing the song, "I have decided to follow Jesus, no turning back,"
but why is it that so many people do? There seems to be an epidemic of
Christians who begin well but finish poorly. Let me share seven
crucial characteristics that will help you to finish well.

1. Intimacy With Christ.
Our highest calling is to grow in our knowledge of Christ and to make
Him known to others. Does our desire to know Christ exceed all other
aspirations? If not, whatever is taking His place in the center of our
affections must yield to Him if we are to know the joy of bearing
spiritual fruit. A key secret of those who finish well is to focus
more on loving Jesus than on avoiding sin. The more we love Jesus, the
more we will learn to put our confidence in Him alone.

2. Fidelity With Spiritual Disciplines
Spiritual disciplines such as prayer, fellowship, study, worship, and
submission are not ends in themselves, but means to the end of
intimacy with Christ and spiritual formation. When left to itself,
however, any one of these disciplines tends to decline and decay. An
infusion of directed intentionality and effort is necessary to sustain
order and growth and to bring repeated times of personal renewal.

3. A Biblical Perspective On The Circumstances Of Life.
Part of the purpose of our suffering and trials is to drive us to
dependence on God alone. God responds by revealing more of Himself to
us. This knowledge increases our faith and our capacity to trust His
character and His promises through the times we do not understand His
purposes and His ways. When we view our circumstances in light of
God's character instead of God's character in light of our
circumstances, we come to see that God is never indifferent to us, and
that He uses suffering (He does on cause suffering) for our good so we
will be more fully united to Christ.

4. A Teachable, Responsive, and Humble Spirit.
Those who finish well maintain an ongoing learning posture through the
seasons of their lives. Humility and responsive obedience are the keys
to maintaining a teachable spirit.  Humility is the disposition in
which we displace self through the enthronement of Christ in our lives
and realize that all of life is about trust in God. Obedience is the
application of biblical faith in that which is not seen, and that
which is not yet. As we mature in Christ, we learn to trust God's
character and promises in spite of ambiguity or trials.

5. A Clear Sense Of Personal Calling.
God has called each of us to a purposeful journey sustained by
faithfulness and growing hope. This calling or vocation transcends our
occupations and endures beyond the end of our careers. As we seek the
Lord's guidance in developing a personal vision and clarity of
mission, we move beyond the level of tasks and accomplishments to the
level of the purpose for which we were created.

6. Healthy Relationships with Resourceful People.
Relationships such as spiritual mentoring, servant leadership, and
personal and group accountability are valuable resources that
encourage, equip, and exhort. People who finish well do not do so
without the caring support of other growing members of the body of
Christ. These relationships help us to increase in intimacy with
Christ, maintain the needed disciplines, clarify our long-term
perspective, sustain a teachable attitude, and develop our purpose and
calling.

7. Ongoing Ministry Investment In The Lives Of Others.
Spirit-filled living requires us to discover and develop the spiritual
gifts we have received and exercise them through the Spirit's power
for the edification of others. Believers who finish well are marked by
ongoing outreach and sacrificial ministry for the good of other
people.

Those who squander the resources, gifts, experiences, and hard-learned
insights God has given them by no longer investing them in the lives
of others soon wither and withdraw.  What does it take to finish well?
Taking to heart the above seven characteristics will help you finish
well day by day, as you "run with endurance the race that is set
before [you]" (Heb. 12:1).

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From jekambi at daystar.ac.ke  Mon Dec  7 02:33:58 2009
From: jekambi at daystar.ac.ke (jekambi)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:33:58 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Mombasa Hotels
In-Reply-To: <5126db250912030152h6d4ec628q2ff7274ae746237a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4b1cb012.0c67f10a.64dc.ffffc7ebSMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com>

There are no honey(s) there.

 

 

  _____  

From: Jerry Papa [mailto:jerryapa at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:52 PM
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Subject: [YP_Ke] Mombasa Hotels

 

Hallo,

am planning for honey moon between 21-27 december in mombasa which hotel can
i get for better deals.

Thanks

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VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm - 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
 
Registration of Attendants - 6:00pm - 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 - 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 - 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 - 6: 25 
Talk - The Draft Constitution : 6:35 - 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 - 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
 
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From youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 05:05:42 2009
From: youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com (Moderator YP_Ke)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 02:05:42 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] A Letter to YPs in Mombasa
Message-ID: <82dec6650912070205w7198aa3h16811859d027b6a0@mail.gmail.com>

Hi YPs in Mombasa



LYP -Nairobi is greatly excited at the prospect of having a sister club in
Mombasa. The feeling that soon you may be hosting us to Coast for a joint
fellowship is very good. Having a chapter in Mombasa will not only ensure
the LYP family grows bigger, but also ensure  the ideals of service, sharing
and growth which we stand for reach a wider community.



Organizing a LYP Club is one of the most rewarding & learning opportunity
you will enjoy thoroughly. The enthusiasm you guys have shown is the only
prerequisite tool you need to get started. We here in Nairobi would have
wished a few of us to attend your first organization/information meeting
tomorrow, but due to the timing that may not be possible.



We are though quite happy that our LYP - Nairobi club administrator,
Josephine Kamanthe will be in attendance. She is a very resourceful lady who
was intimately involved in setting up the basic framework for LYP as an
organization as well as setting up our Nairobi Chapter. No doubt that she
will a great resource to you guys people.



Attached herein is our Standard LYP Constitution, which is an information
resource you might need to refer as you organize yourself. If you need more
resources, we shall be more than willing to help.





All the best & May our almighty God bless you abundantly,


-- 
Regards

Francis Mwangi

YP_Ke Group Moderator.

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From umacapsules at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 04:59:12 2009
From: umacapsules at gmail.com (Husler omosh)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:59:12 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] how to invest
Message-ID: <7035fee00912070159q5c5e863rf110f66f57bfe538@mail.gmail.com>

hello ladies and gentlemen,

Can someone offer some advice on how i can invest 10k this season before
christmas and make some good profit.

Thanks

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From annamchi at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 05:21:30 2009
From: annamchi at yahoo.com (Anu Alappatt)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 02:21:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Another gay/lesbian clergy controversy!
Message-ID: <959408.92877.qm@web36608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


My only conclusion from everything that has happened in churches in all matters?connected?to homosexuality is that 'the End?is very near'. God must have run out of His patience! 
Those who have been entrusted with guiding the layman on correct interpretation of the BIble and?how to follow the teachings in one life, have themselves lost total respect for God's wishes. I think it is up to real Christians to stand for their faith and follow God's word and not the path shown by these errant clergy.???

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Absalom Birai <prcanb at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Absalom Birai <prcanb at yahoo.com>
Subject: [YP_Ke] Another gay/lesbian clergy controversy!
To: "youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com" <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 4:56 AM


It has happened again and as you can expect, it has started another fight among the Anglican believers in particular and by extension,the entire Christian community. I heard it over the radio this morning. An Anglican? diocese in USA has appointed a lesbian as an associate clergy/bishop and the immediate reaction has been mixed-some approving and others condemning it.

In their discussion this morning, one view was that as long as the diocese accepts it,that is OK.As I listened to the discussion,I would not help but wonder?

1. How does God react to all this kind of confusion?
2. Does the Bible count any more?
3. Are there any qualifications for those who accept the calling to be co workers in God's vineyard?
4. I know that such issues almost always turn ugly but how can we enter into a meaningful exchange of ideas? What's the solution to all these? Whose voice should we listen to?

Just wondering loud this Sunday morning.

Pr Birai
www.pastorbirai.com





? ? ? 

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From waithirawamwangi at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 06:23:01 2009
From: waithirawamwangi at gmail.com (Cera)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 03:23:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Kenyan Christmas Music CD
Message-ID: <20ac86ba-4b95-44a6-938d-0c23cba76b50@z7g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>

Jambo!

For all music lovers who are looking for Christmas carols, there is a
music CD titled 'Well Seasoned - a Kenyan Christmas' its fantastic,
first time i heard it i could not believe it was Kenyan!!!. It
features various artists including Eric Wainaina, Harry Kimani, Mercy
Myra, Chris Bittok among others. I under stand the CD which was
sponsored by Safaricom was released in December of 2007 beats me why
its not being played on our local stations, it has a great compilation.

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From josephkennethm at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 06:03:27 2009
From: josephkennethm at yahoo.com (joseph kenneth)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 03:03:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Leadership And Success in RelationShips and
	Communication - Marcus Durham.pdf
In-Reply-To: <ca30a6e70912070222p17d294eqe8510a81110125cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <289797740907010216p559a7c87w289e8f6426e8be1c@mail.gmail.com>
	<faf488370912061556w5e18c531u526f554ef9e3a70c@mail.gmail.com>
	<ca30a6e70912070222p17d294eqe8510a81110125cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <263668.65918.qm@web111416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Can somebody please help me 
 how can i print E books print function seems to be disabled.



________________________________
From: Terry Shiundu <terryshiundu at gmail.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 1:22:29 PM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Leadership And Success in RelationShips and Communication  - Marcus Durham.pdf

Hallo Francis,

Thank you for the good material and books you keep sending us and your consistency too in doing so. I am looking for books on motivation, motivation theories, etc. I need them in order to study more on the topic as my research paper is in that area. Kindly let me know if you have them and how much they will cost? Any books on HR will also be of great help. (MBA books)

Thanks.
Terry


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Francis Mwangi Chege <francis at safarisoftsolutions.com> wrote:

Sambazato your friends
>
> 
>Find the book attached
>
>Get a set of 4 e-books from the attached list at Ksh. 250.
>Get all the 1,000 e-books at Ksh. 3,000
>
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>
>Francis Mwangi Chege
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>
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From komarockswatch at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 06:28:28 2009
From: komarockswatch at yahoo.com (odhiambo okecth)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 03:28:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Ngunyi is past his sell by date
In-Reply-To: <594ded440912070306n8ef0192v679b00f1f204ba3a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <254299.77795.qm@web31408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Lee,

Mutahi Ngunyi is past his sell-by date.

He is doing The Daily Nation a dis-service by only targeting Raila all the times. It is said that simple minds discuss people and that is where Ngunyi is--- Very Firmly-- a very simple mind.

He is adding no value to the quest that Kenya needs. 

If I were you, I would ignore him and move on. 

Oto

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Lee Makwiny <amosogal at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Lee Makwiny <amosogal at gmail.com>
Subject: Fwd: [KOL] Re: [Siasa-Kenya] What country does he live in?
To: "kol" <kenyaonline at yahoogroups.com>, mlalahoi at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 3:06 AM







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      Odhis, I will respond. But one thing is certain, he is driving people away from the Nation on Sunday. He must start writting objective analysis without playing in dirt. I mean, he can take anti-Raila stand but in a more objective way.



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From: odhiambo okecth <komarockswatch@ yahoo.com>

Date: Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [KOL] Re: [Siasa-Kenya] What country does he live in?
To: kenyaonline@ yahoogroups. com
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Lee,

Please do not respond to Mutahi Ngunyi. The man is playing in dirt and I bet you are not in that league.

If you want to respond, respond to serious minds; eg Barrack Muluka, Phillip Ochieng, Dennis Galuva etc, but never respond to Mutahi Ngunyi.


he lost it long time ago. He will soon start affecting the sales of The Daily Nation if they do not drop him.

Watch this space.

Oto

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Robert Alai <alai.robert@ gmail.com> wrote:



From: Robert Alai <alai.robert@ gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [KOL] Re: [Siasa-Kenya] What country does he live in?

To: kenyaonline@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 2:55 AM 





? 

Wakikataa send it over and we will sambaza it




On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Lee Makwiny <amosogal at gmail. com> wrote:


? 



I think I will respond to Mutahi article tomorrow and hopefully, it will get published in the dailies! I have too much now





On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:48 PM, odhiambo okecth <komarockswatch@ yahoo.com> wrote:



? 







In his dreams Brother.....

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, BOB-K BOB-K <mrbob_k at yahoo. com> wrote:


From: BOB-K BOB-K <mrbob_k at yahoo. com>
Subject: [Siasa-Kenya] What country does he live in?

To: "Siasa-Kenya" <Siasa-Kenya@ yahoogroups. com>, "kenyaonline@ yahoogroups. com" <kenyaonline@ yahoogroups. com>

Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 9:07 AM


? 

Could a Raila fall bring healing to this country? 
?
By?MUTAHI NGUNYIPosted? Saturday, December 5?2009?at?18:17
In Summary
* The Raila-Ruto ?catfight? has its owners. The latter is a mere hangman
This week did not make sense to me. Kofi Annan arrived on an irrelevant mission. And then he said nothing new. All he did was whine about a local tribunal. And on this, the man does not get it. We have said no to a local tribunal. Period.

But if he is unhappy with us, he is free to set up a ?local tribunal? for Kenya in ?Kumasi? or wherever he comes from. It is that simple. Then there was the constitutional review debate. This one is dying. For some reason, it did not even pick. It has no oomph, no energy! And I blame the lethargy on the draft constitution.

It has no legs; no future. But in the razzmatazz of the week, two things stood out. One, the Raila-Ruto ?cat fight?. Two, the looming shadow of Moreno-Ocampo and his expected announcement before Christmas. If the week was confused, it is because of the two things. And, in my view, they are related. Allow me to explain.

Raila Odinga is a slow-punctured revolutionary. And the tragedy is this: He is in denial. But on this, I do not blame him. The brother is keeping it real!
As the Chinese say: ?? if you want to shrink something, you must first expand it. If you want to get rid of something, you must first allow it to flourish?. This is the ?Odinga tragedy?.

As Prime Minister, he is ??expanding?? and flourishing. Unfortunately, he has become a balloon. Bloated, flighty and full of air. Soon, he will be popped. And, in my view, this is deliberate. 
Even in the Holy Bible, they fattened a lamb. The fat lamb believed it was the best until they sacrificed it. The ancient tribes did the same. They looked for the finest human being. Then they fed him, oiled him and elevated his ego. And when the time was ripe, they offered him to the gods.

Like in ancient times, Mr Odinga is being fattened. The tragedy is that he is enjoying the ?fattening?. Soon, they will present him to the ?gods? as a sacrifice.
And William Ruto will be the happy ?High Priest? to perform the ceremony. In sum, the Raila-Ruto ?cat fight? has its owners. Mr Ruto is just a front; a mere hangman.

But if this is true, who are the owners of this ??fight??? There are two layers of owners. The first is vicious, the second is cautious. The vicious layer has nothing to lose ?except its chains?.
This is the group mentioned in the Kenya National Commission on Human Rights report. On this list we have Mr Uhuru Kenyatta, Mr William Ruto and Mr Najib Balala.

If Mr Moreno Ocampo relied on this report, the three have reason to panic. And in panic, it is only reasonable for them to form a ?brotherhood? of sorts. The ?Mau rebellion? is therefore an excuse; a platform that brings them together.

Unfortunately, Mr Odinga is in denial. He cannot read the ploy. Yet in the scheme of things, he is the target; the fat sacrificial lamb to be offered to the political ?gods?. But why do I say so? I have two reasons.
One, he is seen as a traitor by the Kalenjin Nation. If they fought in 2008, it was because of him.

But when Moreno Ocampo came to town, he disowned them. And for this, they can no longer call him ?Mibei?. The fond nickname is no more. In fact, the fallout between him and the Kalenjin Nation is total.
Now they must send him to the gallows. And their hangman is Mr Ruto. The second reason involves others: those afraid of the ?Ocampo process?. Their options are few. 

To buy time, they must destabilise the coalition government without collapsing it. And the best way to do this is to bring Mr Odinga down. The tool for doing so is a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister.
This vote requires 112 MPs. If the Mau harambee could summon 56 MPs overnight, it can double the figure in a month or so.

But what does such a vote mean? Would it collapse the government? Would it lead to an election? Zero! The option for a snap election was removed. It is not in the Accord; not in the constitution. If the coalition government collapses, President Kibaki takes it all. No election; no contest.

Similarly, if Mr Odinga is removed, ODM would have to look for a new party leader. Constitutionally, the new leader would be appointed Prime Minister. And if they fail to get a new leader, the President can decide to do without a Prime Minister. After all, Mr Moi operated without a Vice-President for eight months. In sum, if Mr Odinga is sacrificed, the country would move on!

Let us consider the second layer now. In this group we have everyone Mr Odinga has betrayed. And when you summon the evidence, he has betrayed almost everyone. In political science, we love such people. In real life, however, they get killed; sacrificed to the ?gods?.

Beginning with the president, he would love to sacrifice this man. If he was not a decent man, he would support a vote of no confidence in the PM. This would declare him the ?winner? of the 2007 election rather late. It would bring an end to power sharing constitutionally.

The vice-president would support this to settle an old score. Mr Odinga betrayed him when he decided to run for president in 2007. As for Mr Kenyatta, the Prime Minister is a foe. He betrayed him in 2002 when he left Kanu to join the Rainbow Coalition. If he had not done so, Mr Kenyatta would be president today. The wounds of Mr Ruto and the Rift Valley MPs are still fresh. Their betrayal is ?now?!

They would support such a move. And the question to the prime minister therefore is this: where are your troops? My reading is this: He has none. If this is true, he is being fattened as a sacrificial lamb. Like a good sacrifice, the sins of the post- election violence will be forgiven if we sacrifice him. This is why he must be afraid. Very afraid!

Mutahi Ngunyi is a political scientist with The Consulting House, a policy and security innovation think-tank for the Great Lakes Region and West Africa. Mutahi at myself. com


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From komarockswatch at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 06:36:47 2009
From: komarockswatch at yahoo.com (odhiambo okecth)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 03:36:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such Thing as KKK
In-Reply-To: <23207d9b0912070255x7700e80x5ee1b8ef66d0c91f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <588161.18621.qm@web31402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dan, 

Raila was first voted into parliament in 1992. If that makes his presence be 30 years, I must be alien to that kind of calculation.

oto

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such Thing as KKK
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 2:55 AM

Alexander,

Your assessment of the PM could be correct. My only concern is that he
has been there for 30 years now, still playing politics. i think our
country need a CEO sort of person to do two things:

i. Manage people well - ensure productivity, eliminate corruption, reduce crime
ii. Sort our economy so that it creates high value jobs for everyone.

I doubt Raila's generation have any new revolutionary ideas. We need
an Obama type of person but i am aware there could be none other than
the PM right now but isnt 3 years a long time?? I am keeping my
fingers crossed.

I have always felt the current speaker Marende could measure up as our
ideal CEO.

Dan.

On 12/5/09, Alexander Mukui <mukuialex at yahoo.com> wrote:
> All
>
> Great views
>
> It is unfortunate that our politics is still individual-driven and not
> policy-driven as it should be. Lets hope that one day it will.
> For now i think we are still headed the way of the post colonial families
> but i would embrace anyone who can do the Obama miracle here.
> Raila is headed right, but correct me if i am wrong
> So far has respected the rule of law
> has upheld corrective responsibility
> is not a war monger
> can mobilize people to development (except in soccer -this Hey guy)
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 4/12/09, maurice oduor <mauricejoduor at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>> From: maurice oduor <mauricejoduor at yahoo.ca>
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such Thing as KKK
>> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>> Date: Friday, 4 December, 2009, 17:30
>> Karua
>> was the chief? supporter of the rigging at KICC and
>> she, therefore, is responsible for the PEV and all the
>> associated problems. She should never be allowed, by
>> Kenyans, to be in government.
>>
>> Courage,
>> Maurice
>>
>> --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Dan Nyutu
>> <denyutu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such Thing as KKK
>> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>> Received: Friday, December 4, 2009, 6:27 AM
>>
>>
>> Lee,
>>
>> I think what you say is very true but a sad part of Kenya.
>> We have the
>> same guys (or their kids or wives) every election cycle yet
>> Kenyans
>> are poorer.
>>
>> If the above are to be the only ones in 2012, i will go for
>> Raila any
>> day. But i still believe in miracles!
>>
>> PS: You forgot Martha Karua. I admire her. hope she can be
>> in Raila's
>> camp so that she stays in govt.
>>
>> Dan.
>>
>> On 12/4/09, Lee Makwiny <amosogal at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Dan the idea is good! But remember that the names that
>> will be on the ballot
>> > box are :
>> >
>> > 1. Raila Odinga
>> > 2. Kalonzo Musyoka
>> > 3. William Ruto
>> > 4. Musalia Mudavadi (though he may support RAO)
>> > 5. Uhuru kenyatta
>> > 6. Nazlin? Umar
>> > 7. Moses Wetangula
>> > 8. Elijah
>>? Kombo
>> >
>> > We have only three years left and from the look of
>> things, i don't see a YP
>> > rising between now and 2012, unless we have a DJ who
>> is ready to take over!!
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Though i do not support the idea of a
>> revolution,(from YP, too scared of
>> >> govt intelligences, LOL!!) i think Oranga's
>> ideas are great ideals we
>> >> should
>> >> think about.
>> >>
>> >> The PM is doing a good job with MAU but like his
>> peers, he has been there
>> >> for far too long. He has done great with Kibaki
>> and i wish he was on the
>> >> controlling pedal but come 2012, i hope we can
>> show our love for him by
>> >> allowing him to retire peacefully with Kibaki and
>> he will be a true
>> >>
>>? statesman.
>> >>
>> >> My hope for 2012, as i have mentioned repeatedly
>> in this forum, is that we
>> >> retire the entire Independence generation (and
>> their empire families) who
>> >> have nothing to show for their stay in politics as
>> matters of Kenya's
>> >> progress are concerned. We also need to retire all
>> those who were involved
>> >> in PEV. Since some communities may want to retain
>> their kinsmen who
>> >> brought
>> >> our country so low with PEV, i hope the ICC
>> assists us here.
>> >>
>> >> So the Rutos, Kenyattas, Kibakis, Odingas etc...
>> go retire in peace come
>> >> 2012.
>> >>
>> >> Then the young professionals please get into
>> political parties and help
>> >> turn around our country through revolutionalising
>> parties come 2012.
>> >>
>> >> Dan.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Oranga, Daniel
>>? <doranga at kcb.co.ke>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>? ?how we talk about other and not
>> us,? are we not leaders enough to stand
>> >>> up and make a better future for ourselves and
>> our children children. What
>> >>> exactly are we idolizing this mentioned
>> individuals about??? Have they
>> >>> raised our living standards, added a sugar
>> spoon? or even shaken our
>> >>> hands
>> >>> in church?
>> >>>
>> >>> My good people why don?t we do a
>> revolution?.then have new names like
>> >>> oranga, Kiprop, wanjiru, kamunde and oduor hit
>> the headlines with
>> >>> developmental issues??we can run this
>> country
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> *From:* maurice oduor [mailto:mauricejoduor at yahoo.ca]
>> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:18 PM
>> >>>
>> >>> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>> >>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such
>> Thing as KKK
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Ruto is advised to be consistent. So far he is
>> quite impatient and is
>> >>> burning his bridges. He needs to be patient.
>> He is still a young man who
>> >>> can
>> >>> be President in future. I will personally vote
>> for him come 2017 and do
>> >>> everything in my power to make his presidency
>> a success. Let him support
>> >>> Raila for now for that
>>? is his only insurance to attain the presidency; we
>> >>> will deliver the votes to him. We supported
>> Kibaki in 2002 and that was a
>> >>> tough sell. Supporting Ruto in 2017 will be a
>> very easy task, believe
>> >>> me..
>> >>>
>> >>> I will personally mobilize Kenyans to propel
>> him to power. But if he
>> >>> wants
>> >>> to remain a Kalenjin Chief and no more, then
>> he is using a good strategy.
>> >>> It
>> >>> is such a shame that he is allowing the
>> Kutunys and the Isaac Rutos to
>> >>> take
>> >>> control of his political future. If he is
>> thinking about this KKK
>> >>> nonsense
>> >>> then his future is doomed. He should forget
>> about being President; our Mt
>> >>> Kenya never vote for anyone who hails from a
>> different tribe. I am sure
>> >>> he
>> >>> knows that.
>> >>>
>> >>> If anyone has
>>? Ruto's phone #, please give it to me. i would like to
>> >>> explain my position to him.
>> >>>
>> >>> Courage,
>> >>> Maurice
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --- On *Tue, 12/1/09, Kiprop Simion <kiprop.simion at gmail.com>*
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Kiprop Simion <kiprop.simion at gmail.com>
>> >>> Subject: Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such Thing
>> as KKK
>> >>> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>> >>> Received: Tuesday, December 1,
>>? 2009, 6:25 AM
>> >>>
>> >>> Dear all,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From the Politics we have seen in the country
>> for several years. It seems
>> >>> we are still? politically illiterate.MAU
>> issue is more than meets the
>> >>> eye,
>> >>> its a much complex issue than you think ,note
>> that political landscape
>> >>> changes everyday.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> A good politician is the one who can generate
>> serious discomfort to other
>> >>> political peers .......Raila is no longer the
>> man Ruto is?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Who thought that Ruto could Mobilise 10
>> Cabinet Ministers to the Panafric
>> >>> function...........??
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at
>>? 11:33 AM, Maryann Wanjiru <
>> >>> cirumariga2007 at gmail.com
>> <http://mc/compose?to=cirumariga2007 at gmail.com>>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Evictions at Mau are not going to benefit
>> Raila's homestead, its for
>> >>> kenya
>> >>> as a country and the whole region at large. I
>> wonder where Uhuru was when
>> >>> IDPs were walking on foot from Naivasha to was
>> it nyahururu? which was
>> >>> more
>> >>> than 80 kilometers on the rain for days as
>> women miscarried and children
>> >>> caught phenumonia???? are those the
>> Kikuyu's he is talking of being in
>> >>> the
>> >>> KKK?????
>> >>>
>> >>> Pole sana Uhuru, u r politically
>>? finished round hii! u can go look for
>> >>> votes somewhere in Eldoret. though i wish
>> Ocampo can act faster. kila mtu
>> >>> abebe msalaba yake!
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Allen Kamunde
>> >>> <alkamyoyo at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=alkamyoyo at yahoo.com>>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> It pains me everytime i see people referring
>> to such thing as KKK. It
>> >>> just
>> >>> Doesnt exist!
>> >>>
>> >>> That is just a grouping of 3 people; Uhuru,
>> Ruto, Kalonzo. Just ask
>> >>> yourselves, Do you
>>? believe they speak on behalf of the said people they
>> >>> purport to speak for? Do they really have the
>> blessings of the said
>> >>> people?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> My answer is no! and the can go to hell.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Evitions have to continue, and to Raila, you
>> can only get stronger,
>> >>> Kudos!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> >> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of
>> YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
>> >> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the
>> Mau Politics.
>> >>
>> >> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
>> >> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
>> >> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
>> >> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
>> >> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
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>> > GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice &
>> Constitutional Affairs
>> > Minister, Gichugu MP.
>> > TOPIC: The
>>? Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans
>> Get It
>> > Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau
>> Politics.
>> >
>> > Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
>> > Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
>> > Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
>> > Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
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>> --
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>>
>> Strategy Consultant
>> Strategic Leadership Center International
>> Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100
>> Nairobi, Kenya.
>> Tel: 3872252/ 3877637/ 2067622
>> Email: dnyutu at gmail.com
>> Cell: 0728-200075
>>
>> "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again
>> and expecting
>> different results"
>>
>> Albert Einstein (Attributed)
>> US (German born) Physicist (1879-1955)
>>
>> --
>> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>>
>> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
>> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
>> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
>> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice &
>> Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP.
>> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To
>> Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She
>>? Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>>
>> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
>> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
>> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
>> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
>> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
>> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
>> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards
>> >>>>
>>
>> Register NOW by sending an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com,
>> or call
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>>
>> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
>>
>> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
>>
>> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice &
>> Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP.
>>
>> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To
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>> Talk On the Mau Politics.
>>
>>
>>
>> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
>>
>> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
>>
>> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
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From antihongo at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 06:46:37 2009
From: antihongo at gmail.com (Faiza Hassan)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:46:37 +0000
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] ACADEMIC RESEARCH AND THESIS WRITING
In-Reply-To: <488052.87312.qm@web28207.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <756105.73457.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <c37ee6fe0912070346o5b3546ceh3bd2fc900f4eb4b9@mail.gmail.com>

So the universities you mentioned their standard is unworthy?

On 12/7/09, BENSON MAISORI <bensonmaisori at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> This action cannot be termed professional. This is reminiscent of the
> parallel degree programmes and the disease is more rampant among graduates
> who took their degrees from Kampala University and Baraton and Kabarak
> Universities.
> This is academically immoral.
>
> Nyaichoro Maisori
>
> +254 727 248044
>
> http://maisori.blogspot.com/
>
> --- On Mon, 7/12/09, jared ariemba <ariembajnr2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: jared ariemba <ariembajnr2 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] ACADEMIC RESEARCH AND THESIS WRITING
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, 7 December, 2009, 8:42
>
> Am a lecturer and am shocked. Kwenda huko wewe. If guys want to learn, let
> them be willing to do their projects and term papers.
> ?Jerry Mogaka
> "......obey God and Man all the time. In case of conflict between God's
> requirements and man's requirements, then obey God, because man cannot
> sustain your life....... "
>
>
> From: Cynthia Osiro
>  <csinita at yahoo.com>
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 10:49:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] ACADEMIC RESEARCH AND THESIS WRITING
>
>
> Martin,
>
> I totally agree with you.? You know i saw this guy's advert and was shocked.
> Something is not right somewhere.
>
> Cynthia
>
>
> --- On Sun, 12/6/09, Martin Opondo Obwar <opondobwar at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Martin Opondo Obwar <opondobwar at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] ACADEMIC RESEARCH AND THESIS WRITING
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:39 PM
>
>
> Why should on go to school then ask other who did not attend classes to do
> exams for them. why did you go to school in the first place? in the end who
> will have passed these exams? I am getting this concentration
> on?certificates?really unworthy. a number of certificated tossed around are
> not worthy.Michael it does not matter do the papers your self stop calling
> for help then there after you will be calling your self professional and
> yest you are not. and sollok K what added value to you have in
> doing?assignments?for people? is this not impunity?
>
>
> Thats my take.
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Sollok K <msollok at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
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>
>
> From: michael kano <mnkano at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] HELP FOR ACADEMIC RESEARCH AND THESIS WRITING *
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 6:05 AM
>
>
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> On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
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> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>
> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
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From antihongo at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 06:53:57 2009
From: antihongo at gmail.com (Faiza Hassan)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:53:57 +0000
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] SHOULD RAILA BE VERY WORRIED?
In-Reply-To: <23207d9b0912070322l28f7e5e9x4d58274026ce5f7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23207d9b0912070322l28f7e5e9x4d58274026ce5f7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c37ee6fe0912070353y4f266aa5g9cd5142f417782a7@mail.gmail.com>

Kenyans are not for tribal alliances. Let us wait for new constitution
then we shall see how this alliance will be.

On 12/7/09, Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com> wrote:
> YPs,
>
> Recent developments in the political arena have been about two
> fellows, the PM and Ruto, previously close allies.
>
> Ruto marshalled 56 MPs including ten ministers in a few days to his
> MAU harambee. Going by Kenya's election traditions where tribal kings
> dictate how the followers vote, his Rift valley block votes may not go
> to Raila again. Thus for Raila to win an election, he need a similar
> block of votes to replace that block.
>
> I doubt he can get a replacement block from Eastern or Central (being
> the other blocks that did not vote him in) since their Chiefs, read
> Uhuru and Kalonzo, are in alliance with Ruto. Without these three
> blocks of Rift valley, Eastern, Central (and probably Nairobi since
> the three blocks residents would make a majority here) he can as well
> forget a majority win.
>
> I tend to agree with Mutahi Ngunyi's latest assessment that all forces
> that Raila has trampled on, are now on his neck. This would include
> the president, Ruto, Uhuru, Kalonzo, Moi, Kanu, PNU etc...
>
> For now they may appear non-starters against the PM since the issue at
> hand, the MAU, the population supports the PM. However, the issues
> will change and such an alliance can be lethal once it gains momentum.
> The PM needs to stop this alliance taking shape coz if it does, he
> wont be able to stop it and if they can convince their followers, that
> can be dangerous to his political survival.
>
> Way out for PM? I cant really see how. He should be really worried.
> Isnt it sad that politicians can work all their lives to improve
> living standards of their people only to be wiped out once they fall
> out with the big guys. Isnt it sad that Raila is working hard to
> restore the MAU for future generations but the trouble he has got
> into, may mess his hard fought ambitions? Can our politics ever be
> issue based?
>
> If it wont be PM at the helm, i expect a miracle President to come and
> save us coz i cant figure out how the KKK alliance can do any good for
> the country now that they may dislodge our man.
>
>
> --
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>
> Strategy Consultant
> Strategic Leadership Center International
> Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100
> Nairobi, Kenya.
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> Cell: 0728-200075
>
> "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
> different results"
>
> Albert Einstein (Attributed)
> US (German born) Physicist (1879-1955)
>
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> Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm
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From umacapsules at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 07:10:35 2009
From: umacapsules at gmail.com (Husler omosh)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:10:35 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Modelling
Message-ID: <7035fee00912070410icac71d6pd11d4c24dbe4ee50@mail.gmail.com>

I greet you in Lords name,

Is anyone aware where a lady can unleash her modelling dream. I have a very
close one who needs that.Shes only 20. I will appreciate.

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From antihongo at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 07:11:58 2009
From: antihongo at gmail.com (Faiza Hassan)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:11:58 +0000
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] An Open Letter to PM Raila
In-Reply-To: <20091207130140.thbxe5ztw048o8s0@webmail1.abo.fi>
References: <701571.94722.qm@web57316.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<20091207130140.thbxe5ztw048o8s0@webmail1.abo.fi>
Message-ID: <c37ee6fe0912070411m8ce9e79r7e05ab38f13ff85a@mail.gmail.com>

Concerned about kkk? You are not serious. Listen careful to Pm
speeches, then you might understand him. Ruto joined ODM after
realising that Kalenjins have walked  out of kanu. Ati Uhuru, Kalonzo
and Ruto. Let us be serious Kenyans can't be fooled by the three
muskateers.

On 12/7/09, Otieno Mbare <ombare at abo.fi> wrote:
> Waw! I hope the PM will read and ponder over the issues you have
> raised! Everyone is concerned though!
>
> Otieno Mbare
>
> Quoting Judy Miriga <jbatec at yahoo.com>:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Prime Minister Raila,
>>
>> This is to bring to your attention our concern that many times your
>> public utterances are wanting, so confusing, contradicting,
>> worrisome and questionable to an extend majority poor Kenyans are
>> left to wonder if their public interest are taken care of or their
>> demands according to your view, would be given favorable
>> consideration as partners in development and or be treated with
>> honor incase you become the next President of Kenya.
>> My purpose for writing this email is as a result of recent public
>> disagreement you had with Ambassador Ranneberger when he questioned
>> recent raise in allowances for Civil Servants which he thought was
>> not urgent or important as yet under the prevailing urgent
>> humanitarian grounds where majority are lagging in poverty including
>>  the displaced persons and also it is thought sensible tackling
>> serious issues of great importance which are?believed were
>> politically motivated and are severely affecting survival of
>> ordinary poor Kenyan public ?(Mwanainchi ) presently.
>> Things of salary to Civil Servants can be considered when the
>> country stabilizes.? This shows we are lacking Experts in Finance
>> Controller General who plans and balances expenditure budget usage
>> for the Country.? This give question to weather Parliamentary
>> Finance Committee is functioning. MPs salary alone for a poor
>> country like Kenya, which is unable to generate their own finances
>> or support their people independently, is world wide questionable
>> when Kenya Government rely heavily on Donor funding and grants to
>> maintain their running expenditure in the Government.? Members of
>> Parliament salary increase takes place two to three times in one
>> year, is this justified?? This kind of behaviour is stealing from
>> public.? We want a considerate People's Representative who will be
>> willing to make partnership with the people so the public can
>> achieve their desired ambition goals in life.
>> We are worried that you are not considering urgent remedy and
>> resolution in matters affecting Kenyans for which we thought would
>> be your agenda number one (service to ordinary people).? To deliver,
>>  you must treat delivery as matters of life and death in your
>> consideration and must be given top attention with urgency in order
>> to be trusted.? Position of Kenya is totally shaken from political
>> quagmire, that engulf the Country? with issues that scuttle Reform
>> Agenda for Kenya and Kenyans, requiring immediate attention, so
>> people can live at peace united with each other.? I am contemplating
>>  ?issues surrounding implementation of Reform Agenda 4 which; your
>> slow pace in giving unequivocal support to the ?Local Tribunal Bill,
>>  your slack way of interjecting on Draft Constitution which in my
>> opinion is lacking PUBLIC CONTROL POWER, and where the so called
>> Legal professionals were paid huge handsome money to do a shoddy job
>>  is robbery to the public, which
>>  you seem to support, and your jumpy way of cooperating with the
>> International Community who are giving Kenya and Kenyans a
>> jump-start financial back-up support necessary to help Kenya remain
>> stable financially under these shaking stormy political condition
>> which are about to sink Kenya into oblivion and throw Kenyans into a
>>  state of hopelessness, a people without direction is worrisome.
>> Any money that come to Kenya from International Donor or
>> Government?is not free money, one way or the other it must be paid
>> back by the people/public.? The people who pay back this money
>> through hardship are the ordinary WANAINCHI.? It is the
>> responsibility of PEOPLE/PUBLIC therefore to question or know how
>> and where their money is spent.? They have the right to question.
>> If it is stolen, they have the right to demand their money back,
>> whether through court or otherwise.
>> In my opinion, you just seem to think of foreign money coming in to
>> the Country without a plan how to transparently disburse the said
>> money to the involvement and information of PUBLIC to bring
>> achievable desired result which is possible in a short space of
>> time.? In your government as President, how will you treat donor
>> funding.? Public money used carelessly is what has failed Kenya and
>> is the reason why Politicians are stealing from Kenyans, why
>> Goldenburg ripped off Kenyans resource utility, why?Anglo Leasing
>> (Anglo leasing) is a big issue, Kenyans must recover through
>> International Courts. ?This donor money, we want to believe?you seem
>>  to think should circulate feeding your individual pockets in the
>> Government without questioning, which is wrong, it is public theft.
>>  You do not turn jittery when that kind of question is put accross.
>>  You should defend such questions with dignity and humility to be
>> able to achieve reform.
>> There will be no development success in Kenya or the removal of
>> poverty without responsibility, commitment and transparency
>> involving Civil Society as partners of Development in any
>> Government. Checks and balances must be the way to go.
>> We worry that you may be having good professional experts to advice
>> and guide in the Coalition Government in your leadership, but you
>> ignore to utilize their expertise and do not give them express open
>> hand to utilize their knowledge so they can deliver.? For what use,
>> Prime Minister Raila, is the increase of salary to Civil Servants if
>>  they are not going to deliver according to their profession because
>>  your type of leadership is tying their hands from performing, yet
>> the public expect them to perform?? This is tax payers money spent
>> without due regard, the public money which the people pay back
>> through thin and thick in TAXES in the form of rising costs of food,
>>  transportation, rent including other basic daily needs or otherwise
>>  from the poor?s hard earned earning which they (the public)
>> conditionally oblige in order to survive.? This behavior is
>> considered knowingly subjecting and suppressing humanity through
>> negligence into harsh reality of
>>  conditionality is considered abusive to humanity and is treated as
>> Criminal against Human Rights in the International Treaty for Human
>> Rights.??This manner of behaviour can also scuttle?Reform we badly
>> need.
>> You also want to compare US State Secretary Hillary Clinton to her
>> recent visitation to Kenya, that she had a big entourage yet they
>> were spending Tax Payers money??you are attacking the same hands
>> that are feeding Kenya and Kenyans.? USA is so organized 50 years
>> ahead of its Country basic finance budget.? USA have Government
>> reserve facility to accommodate their expenditures.? The Government
>> itself is able to generate its independent funds in many small
>> sublet activities, in other words the Government has a creative ways
>>  of generating independent money so they are able to pay back any
>> monies they borrow from public kitty.? How would you therefore want
>> to compare yourself or Kenya with USA? Is this not lacking wisdom?
>> Bwana Prime Minister you are letting Kenyans down.? You cannot bite
>> the hand that is feeding you because it will stop feeding you and
>> you will be putting the country in arms length danger to invasion
>> and terrorism.? Step up and have a reality check so we can trust and
>>  believe that you are able to lead Kenyans to prosperity and deliver
>>  effectively to Kenyans without meandering. ?I believe you have an
>> apology to the Envoy.
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>> Judy Miriga
>> Diaspora Spokesperson
>> Executive Director
>> Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
>> USA
>> http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> Envoy and PM spat over civil servants allowances
>>
>>
>> Updated 18 hr(s) 6 min(s) ago
>>
>> Related Stories
>>  EU Sh90m grant to boost conservation
>> By Martin Mutua
>>
>> Prime Minister Raila Odinga almost fell out with US ambassador
>> Michael Ranneberger over the push for austerity measures in
>> Government.
>> Trouble started when Ranneberger questioned the recent raise in
>> allowances for civil servants, saying the economy was still weak.
>> Raila, who had called a meeting between donors and top Government
>> officials in his office, defended the raise, claiming the envoy was
>> out of order. The envoy said the donor community had suggested that
>> the Government limits the number and size of delegations overseas
>> and were disappointed by the turn of events.
>> Ranneberger said a minister visiting Switzerland would claim $918
>> per day (about Sh68,850) in allowances, which is more than what an
>> average Kenyan earns annually.
>> "By comparison it is perhaps worth noting that a US government
>> official traveling to Switzerland receives only about half the daily
>>  allowance of a Kenyan minister," the envoy is reported to have
>> said.  At this point an agitated Raila hit back and told Ranneberger
>> he had  overstepped his mandate.
>> "The PM actually told the ambassador that he had now gone overboard
>> and was meddling in the internal affairs of the country and should
>> stop," added the source.
>> Raila is said to have referred the envoy to the visit by US
>> Secretary of State Hilary Clinton whose entourage occupied the
>> entire Inter Continental Hotel for a week.
>> "The PM asked the envoy to state whether by taking an entire hotel
>> Clinton was also not burdening the US tax payers," added the source.
>> Other issues the donors are said to have raised include Goldenberg
>> and Anglo Leasing scandals. Ranneberger asked whether the Government
>>  was preparing to make more payments to Anglo Leasing-related
>> companies.
>>
>>
>>
>> Read all about: Prime Minister Raila Odinga Michael Ranneberger
>> civil servants
>>
>>
>> EU Sh90m grant to boost conservation
>>
>> Updated 22 hr(s) 11 min(s) ago
>>
>>  ACP States to lose Sh28b annually after EU treaty ends
>>  The Draft constitution is not about power but on best living
>> standards for all
>> By Standard Correspondent
>>
>> The European Union, through the Community Development Trust Fund
>> (CDTF), is setting aside Sh90 million to fund projects located in
>> Mwea, Embu, Mbeere, Kutui, Mbooni and Mwingi districts. These areas
>> have suffered massive environmental destruction that have been
>> perpetuated by human and animal activities in the areas.
>> The CDTF Programmes Co-ordinator, Salesius Njoka Miu, said the Sh90
>> million disbursements was part of a Sh1.3 billion EU kitty, which
>> will be used to fund 179 environmental projects in Kenya.
>> Adopt skills
>> The EU Head of Social and Environment section, Daniel Plas, called
>> on the project beneficiaries to utilise the grants effectively by
>> adopting the skills learnt through the capacity building sessions,
>> after he joined the board of trustees of CDTF in assessing progress
>> made in the nine projects.
>> The skill upgrade, Plas said, would enable them sustain the project
>> even after the close of the donor funding.
>> The nine projects are being implemented by community-based
>> organisations, which have to contribute 10 per cent of the projects
>> funding. Among the conditions set was gender inclusiveness, a move
>> that saw women leaders participating in the projects.
>> CDTF also insisted that provincial administration and other
>> environmental stakeholders be included in the formulation,
>> implementation and sustenance of the projects to guard against
>> inter-departmental conflicts and suppress vested interests.
>> Miu said the EU funding would also be channeled to agro-forestry
>> projects, which include agro-organic farming, fishing and poultry
>> farming, beekeeping, tree growing, pottery and brick making, which
>> will improve environmental protection besides addressing the
>> community?s livelihood.
>> Moreover, EU?s Project Manager, Joseph Mathuva, said the EU was
>> ready to channel more funds into projects that will address the
>> millennium development goals (MDGs) and improve rural communities.
>> Among the projects that CDTF visited included the Thiba and Nyamindi
>>  River Basin, which got Sh20.6 million in funding. The organisation
>> aims to restore the area?s natural resources, and improve the
>> livelihoods of communities through fish and poultry rearing, and
>> rehabilitation of the area rivers.
>> The Allamano Mianya Primary School, in Mwea, received Sh2.5 million
>> to improve learning facilities and the road access to the school,
>> while the Nyanyaa Secondary School Laboratory, in Kitui, Sh1.7million.
>> Road access
>> In Embu, the Rwere-Kianjokoma Bridge received Sh5.5 million to
>> provide reliable and efficient road access between Kavutiri and
>> Kiriari sub-locations. CDTF is also funding the improvement of the
>> Rupingazi river ecosystem.
>> EU has also channelled Sh1.8 million into the Kandara water dam, in
>> Mbeere District, to increase availability of water for domestic and
>> livestock. Moreover, communities used the funds to put up a dam that
>>  will serve over 500 households that initially trekked over 20
>> kilometers daily in search of water.
>> Additionally, drought hit Mwingi District will have reprive after
>> the rehabilitation of the Mwingi -Katiliku-Kwa Mbungu water supply
>> at a cost of Sh5.6 million is complete
>> In Mbooni, the Mutonguni Ecosystem Environment Management group
>> received Sh18.2 for environmental rehabilitation. The group will
>> establish a tree nursery, construct a sand dams and forestry
>> processing unit, in addition to procuring of four brick making
>> machines, and 183 beehives.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From komarockswatch at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 07:31:54 2009
From: komarockswatch at yahoo.com (odhiambo okecth)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 04:31:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] An Open Letter to PM Raila
In-Reply-To: <c37ee6fe0912070411m8ce9e79r7e05ab38f13ff85a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <935886.8067.qm@web31408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Faiza,

You are on spot Bro.

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Faiza Hassan <antihongo at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Faiza Hassan <antihongo at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] An Open Letter to PM Raila
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 4:11 AM

Concerned about kkk? You are not serious. Listen careful to Pm
speeches, then you might understand him. Ruto joined ODM after
realising that Kalenjins have walked? out of kanu. Ati Uhuru, Kalonzo
and Ruto. Let us be serious Kenyans can't be fooled by the three
muskateers.

On 12/7/09, Otieno Mbare <ombare at abo.fi> wrote:
> Waw! I hope the PM will read and ponder over the issues you have
> raised! Everyone is concerned though!
>
> Otieno Mbare
>
> Quoting Judy Miriga <jbatec at yahoo.com>:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Prime Minister Raila,
>>
>> This is to bring to your attention our concern that many times your
>> public utterances are wanting, so confusing, contradicting,
>> worrisome and questionable to an extend majority poor Kenyans are
>> left to wonder if their public interest are taken care of or their
>> demands according to your view, would be given favorable
>> consideration as partners in development and or be treated with
>> honor incase you become the next President of Kenya.
>> My purpose for writing this email is as a result of recent public
>> disagreement you had with Ambassador Ranneberger when he questioned
>> recent raise in allowances for Civil Servants which he thought was
>> not urgent or important as yet under the prevailing urgent
>> humanitarian grounds where majority are lagging in poverty including
>>? the displaced persons and also it is thought sensible tackling
>> serious issues of great importance which are?believed were
>> politically motivated and are severely affecting survival of
>> ordinary poor Kenyan public ?(Mwanainchi ) presently.
>> Things of salary to Civil Servants can be considered when the
>> country stabilizes.? This shows we are lacking Experts in Finance
>> Controller General who plans and balances expenditure budget usage
>> for the Country.? This give question to weather Parliamentary
>> Finance Committee is functioning. MPs salary alone for a poor
>> country like Kenya, which is unable to generate their own finances
>> or support their people independently, is world wide questionable
>> when Kenya Government rely heavily on Donor funding and grants to
>> maintain their running expenditure in the Government.? Members of
>> Parliament salary increase takes place two to three times in one
>> year, is this justified?? This kind of behaviour is stealing from
>> public.? We want a considerate People's Representative who will be
>> willing to make partnership with the people so the public can
>> achieve their desired ambition goals in life.
>> We are worried that you are not considering urgent remedy and
>> resolution in matters affecting Kenyans for which we thought would
>> be your agenda number one (service to ordinary people).? To deliver,
>>? you must treat delivery as matters of life and death in your
>> consideration and must be given top attention with urgency in order
>> to be trusted.? Position of Kenya is totally shaken from political
>> quagmire, that engulf the Country? with issues that scuttle Reform
>> Agenda for Kenya and Kenyans, requiring immediate attention, so
>> people can live at peace united with each other.? I am contemplating
>>? ?issues surrounding implementation of Reform Agenda 4 which; your
>> slow pace in giving unequivocal support to the ?Local Tribunal Bill,
>>? your slack way of interjecting on Draft Constitution which in my
>> opinion is lacking PUBLIC CONTROL POWER, and where the so called
>> Legal professionals were paid huge handsome money to do a shoddy job
>>? is robbery to the public, which
>>? you seem to support, and your jumpy way of cooperating with the
>> International Community who are giving Kenya and Kenyans a
>> jump-start financial back-up support necessary to help Kenya remain
>> stable financially under these shaking stormy political condition
>> which are about to sink Kenya into oblivion and throw Kenyans into a
>>? state of hopelessness, a people without direction is worrisome.
>> Any money that come to Kenya from International Donor or
>> Government?is not free money, one way or the other it must be paid
>> back by the people/public.? The people who pay back this money
>> through hardship are the ordinary WANAINCHI.? It is the
>> responsibility of PEOPLE/PUBLIC therefore to question or know how
>> and where their money is spent.? They have the right to question.
>> If it is stolen, they have the right to demand their money back,
>> whether through court or otherwise.
>> In my opinion, you just seem to think of foreign money coming in to
>> the Country without a plan how to transparently disburse the said
>> money to the involvement and information of PUBLIC to bring
>> achievable desired result which is possible in a short space of
>> time.? In your government as President, how will you treat donor
>> funding.? Public money used carelessly is what has failed Kenya and
>> is the reason why Politicians are stealing from Kenyans, why
>> Goldenburg ripped off Kenyans resource utility, why?Anglo Leasing
>> (Anglo leasing) is a big issue, Kenyans must recover through
>> International Courts. ?This donor money, we want to believe?you seem
>>? to think should circulate feeding your individual pockets in the
>> Government without questioning, which is wrong, it is public theft.
>>? You do not turn jittery when that kind of question is put accross.
>>? You should defend such questions with dignity and humility to be
>> able to achieve reform.
>> There will be no development success in Kenya or the removal of
>> poverty without responsibility, commitment and transparency
>> involving Civil Society as partners of Development in any
>> Government. Checks and balances must be the way to go.
>> We worry that you may be having good professional experts to advice
>> and guide in the Coalition Government in your leadership, but you
>> ignore to utilize their expertise and do not give them express open
>> hand to utilize their knowledge so they can deliver.? For what use,
>> Prime Minister Raila, is the increase of salary to Civil Servants if
>>? they are not going to deliver according to their profession because
>>? your type of leadership is tying their hands from performing, yet
>> the public expect them to perform?? This is tax payers money spent
>> without due regard, the public money which the people pay back
>> through thin and thick in TAXES in the form of rising costs of food,
>>? transportation, rent including other basic daily needs or otherwise
>>? from the poor?s hard earned earning which they (the public)
>> conditionally oblige in order to survive.? This behavior is
>> considered knowingly subjecting and suppressing humanity through
>> negligence into harsh reality of
>>? conditionality is considered abusive to humanity and is treated as
>> Criminal against Human Rights in the International Treaty for Human
>> Rights.??This manner of behaviour can also scuttle?Reform we badly
>> need.
>> You also want to compare US State Secretary Hillary Clinton to her
>> recent visitation to Kenya, that she had a big entourage yet they
>> were spending Tax Payers money??you are attacking the same hands
>> that are feeding Kenya and Kenyans.? USA is so organized 50 years
>> ahead of its Country basic finance budget.? USA have Government
>> reserve facility to accommodate their expenditures.? The Government
>> itself is able to generate its independent funds in many small
>> sublet activities, in other words the Government has a creative ways
>>? of generating independent money so they are able to pay back any
>> monies they borrow from public kitty.? How would you therefore want
>> to compare yourself or Kenya with USA? Is this not lacking wisdom?
>> Bwana Prime Minister you are letting Kenyans down.? You cannot bite
>> the hand that is feeding you because it will stop feeding you and
>> you will be putting the country in arms length danger to invasion
>> and terrorism.? Step up and have a reality check so we can trust and
>>? believe that you are able to lead Kenyans to prosperity and deliver
>>? effectively to Kenyans without meandering. ?I believe you have an
>> apology to the Envoy.
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>> Judy Miriga
>> Diaspora Spokesperson
>> Executive Director
>> Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
>> USA
>> http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> Envoy and PM spat over civil servants allowances
>>
>>
>> Updated 18 hr(s) 6 min(s) ago
>>
>> Related Stories
>>? EU Sh90m grant to boost conservation
>> By Martin Mutua
>>
>> Prime Minister Raila Odinga almost fell out with US ambassador
>> Michael Ranneberger over the push for austerity measures in
>> Government.
>> Trouble started when Ranneberger questioned the recent raise in
>> allowances for civil servants, saying the economy was still weak.
>> Raila, who had called a meeting between donors and top Government
>> officials in his office, defended the raise, claiming the envoy was
>> out of order. The envoy said the donor community had suggested that
>> the Government limits the number and size of delegations overseas
>> and were disappointed by the turn of events.
>> Ranneberger said a minister visiting Switzerland would claim $918
>> per day (about Sh68,850) in allowances, which is more than what an
>> average Kenyan earns annually.
>> "By comparison it is perhaps worth noting that a US government
>> official traveling to Switzerland receives only about half the daily
>>? allowance of a Kenyan minister," the envoy is reported to have
>> said.? At this point an agitated Raila hit back and told Ranneberger
>> he had? overstepped his mandate.
>> "The PM actually told the ambassador that he had now gone overboard
>> and was meddling in the internal affairs of the country and should
>> stop," added the source.
>> Raila is said to have referred the envoy to the visit by US
>> Secretary of State Hilary Clinton whose entourage occupied the
>> entire Inter Continental Hotel for a week.
>> "The PM asked the envoy to state whether by taking an entire hotel
>> Clinton was also not burdening the US tax payers," added the source.
>> Other issues the donors are said to have raised include Goldenberg
>> and Anglo Leasing scandals. Ranneberger asked whether the Government
>>? was preparing to make more payments to Anglo Leasing-related
>> companies.
>>
>>
>>
>> Read all about: Prime Minister Raila Odinga Michael Ranneberger
>> civil servants
>>
>>
>> EU Sh90m grant to boost conservation
>>
>> Updated 22 hr(s) 11 min(s) ago
>>
>>? ACP States to lose Sh28b annually after EU treaty ends
>>? The Draft constitution is not about power but on best living
>> standards for all
>> By Standard Correspondent
>>
>> The European Union, through the Community Development Trust Fund
>> (CDTF), is setting aside Sh90 million to fund projects located in
>> Mwea, Embu, Mbeere, Kutui, Mbooni and Mwingi districts. These areas
>> have suffered massive environmental destruction that have been
>> perpetuated by human and animal activities in the areas.
>> The CDTF Programmes Co-ordinator, Salesius Njoka Miu, said the Sh90
>> million disbursements was part of a Sh1.3 billion EU kitty, which
>> will be used to fund 179 environmental projects in Kenya.
>> Adopt skills
>> The EU Head of Social and Environment section, Daniel Plas, called
>> on the project beneficiaries to utilise the grants effectively by
>> adopting the skills learnt through the capacity building sessions,
>> after he joined the board of trustees of CDTF in assessing progress
>> made in the nine projects.
>> The skill upgrade, Plas said, would enable them sustain the project
>> even after the close of the donor funding.
>> The nine projects are being implemented by community-based
>> organisations, which have to contribute 10 per cent of the projects
>> funding. Among the conditions set was gender inclusiveness, a move
>> that saw women leaders participating in the projects.
>> CDTF also insisted that provincial administration and other
>> environmental stakeholders be included in the formulation,
>> implementation and sustenance of the projects to guard against
>> inter-departmental conflicts and suppress vested interests.
>> Miu said the EU funding would also be channeled to agro-forestry
>> projects, which include agro-organic farming, fishing and poultry
>> farming, beekeeping, tree growing, pottery and brick making, which
>> will improve environmental protection besides addressing the
>> community?s livelihood.
>> Moreover, EU?s Project Manager, Joseph Mathuva, said the EU was
>> ready to channel more funds into projects that will address the
>> millennium development goals (MDGs) and improve rural communities.
>> Among the projects that CDTF visited included the Thiba and Nyamindi
>>? River Basin, which got Sh20.6 million in funding. The organisation
>> aims to restore the area?s natural resources, and improve the
>> livelihoods of communities through fish and poultry rearing, and
>> rehabilitation of the area rivers.
>> The Allamano Mianya Primary School, in Mwea, received Sh2.5 million
>> to improve learning facilities and the road access to the school,
>> while the Nyanyaa Secondary School Laboratory, in Kitui, Sh1.7million.
>> Road access
>> In Embu, the Rwere-Kianjokoma Bridge received Sh5.5 million to
>> provide reliable and efficient road access between Kavutiri and
>> Kiriari sub-locations. CDTF is also funding the improvement of the
>> Rupingazi river ecosystem.
>> EU has also channelled Sh1.8 million into the Kandara water dam, in
>> Mbeere District, to increase availability of water for domestic and
>> livestock. Moreover, communities used the funds to put up a dam that
>>? will serve over 500 households that initially trekked over 20
>> kilometers daily in search of water.
>> Additionally, drought hit Mwingi District will have reprive after
>> the rehabilitation of the Mwingi -Katiliku-Kwa Mbungu water supply
>> at a cost of Sh5.6 million is complete
>> In Mbooni, the Mutonguni Ecosystem Environment Management group
>> received Sh18.2 for environmental rehabilitation. The group will
>> establish a tree nursery, construct a sand dams and forestry
>> processing unit, in addition to procuring of four brick making
>> machines, and 183 beehives.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From joycesambu at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 07:50:27 2009
From: joycesambu at gmail.com (joyce sambu)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 04:50:27 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Saraficom Customer Care & Polici
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Just sell the airtime. Pole sana lakini.

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Irene Asava
<Irene.Asava at equitybank.co.ke> wrote:
> hi all,
> ?i had the same issue but this time with mpesa the mistake was on my side i
> admit but at least they should have helped
> i went to an mpesa outlet to withdraw cash 7000 but bought airtime instead
> efforts to have that reversed was fruitless the agent (mpesa?customer
> service agent)?was like look for people and sell the airtime we cannot
> reverse and am thinking it?should be ?reversable it is an mpesa transaction
> how come when we send wrong deposits we get that money back after 72hrs guys
> that was my rent money and safaricom the better option could do nothing
> about it they proudly told me once its airtime its irreversible honestly
> i thought it was unfair anybody out there please help me understand that
> safaricom mpesa could not do this transaction
> ________________________________
> From: Benson Hongo [mailto:bensonhongo at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 11:31 AM
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com; bidii-afrika at googlegroups.com
> Cc: customercare at safaricom.co.ke
> Subject: [YP_Ke] Saraficom Customer Care & Policies
>
> Hi All,
>
> I dont know much about policies and what they are meant to safeguard at any
> given time. I have never raised a finger at Safaricom despite their ever
> wanting service but I have now been compelled to do just that.
> I am currently working form NEP precisely at the Dadaab Refugee Camp. I
> bought airtime and a bottle of very?cold soda. Without giving it much
> thought, I used the bottle to secure the card as the place is too windy. A
> small bit of the card got wet and thus when I tried to scatch to load, I
> tampered with the 1st three digits so am unable to load the Kshs 100
> airtime. that was two days ago.
>
> I have been trying to call the customer care all day all night to no avail.
> Today morning when I got through it was more than disappointing.
> I was told by the lady who was probably doing her job, that she has to give
> me a reference number, which I will need to take to an authoried centre so
> that they could see whether it qualifies to be replaced. So I ask her to
> check for an authorised dealer(I know there is none this sides) so she
> confirms the same.
> In such instances what am I supposed to do? Well her advice was I keep the
> card and next time I am travelling out which will be on 24th December I can
> have the card replaced.
>
> I dont know guys, but I dont believe this is how consumers ought to be
> treated by a company that keeps getting awards and raking in millions each
> year. i am stillpissed off and I have palced the card on my laptop to keep
> looking at it.
> What if it was my last cent to salvation? What if I was a victim of a bandit
> attack and needed help or was sick?
>
> Another friend who had been having top-up issues was advised to either okoa
> jahazi or redeem his bonga points
>
> C'mon....
>
> Ben
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From amosogal at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 07:54:45 2009
From: amosogal at gmail.com (Lee Makwiny)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:54:45 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such Thing as KKK
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I think it better to have Raila as the CEO of the country than have Jirongo
et al as a minister in government. Lets face it, we will have Ruto, Raila,
Jirongo, Karua, Kalonzo, Uhuru etc and those will be the only choices we
have. The question we should be asking ourself is who among them has the
country at heart?

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Solomon Ojoo <ojoo at starlit.co.ke> wrote:

>
> How do you manage all these under the current national accord if all the
> ministries responsible for your concern are all from PNU.
>
>
>    1. CRIME - SAITOTI PNU
>    2. CORRUPTION - MUTULA PNU SYCOPHANT
>    3. ECONOMY - UHURU AND KIMUNYA - PNU
>
> Under the national accord, Raila cannot do anything to a PNU minister even
> if they are ineffective. Kindly blame kibaki.
>  *-------Original Message-------*
>
>  *From:* Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com>
> *Date:* 07/12/2009 14:18:05
> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such Thing as KKK
>
>  Alexander,
>
> Your assessment of the PM could be correct. My only concern is that he
> has been there for 30 years now, still playing politics. i think our
> country need a CEO sort of person to do two things:
>
> i. Manage people well - ensure productivity, eliminate corruption, reduce
> crime
> ii. Sort our economy so that it creates high value jobs for everyone.AILA
>
> I doubt Raila's generation have any new revolutionary ideas. We need
> an Obama type of person but i am aware there could be none other than
> the PM right now but isnt 3 years a long time?  I am keeping my
> fingers crossed.
>
> I have always felt the current speaker Marende could measure up as our
> ideal CEO.
>
> Dan.
>
> On 12/5/09, Alexander Mukui <mukuialex at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > All
> >
> > Great views
> >
> > It is unfortunate that our politics is still individual-driven and not
> > policy-driven as it should be. Lets hope that one day it will.
> > For now i think we are still headed the way of the post colonial families
> > but i would embrace anyone who can do the Obama miracle here.
> > Raila is headed right, but correct me if i am wrong
> > So far has respected the rule of law
> > has upheld corrective responsibility
> > is not a war monger
> > can mobilize people to development (except in soccer -this Hey guy)
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 4/12/09, maurice oduor <mauricejoduor at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> From: maurice oduor <mauricejoduor at yahoo.ca>
> >> Subject: Re: Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such Thing as KKK
> >> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> >> Date: Friday, 4 December, 2009, 17:30
> >> Karua
> >> was the chief  supporter of the rigging at KICC and
> >> she, therefore, is responsible for the PEV and all the
> >> associated problems. She should never be allowed, by
> >> Kenyans, to be in government.
> >>
> >> Courage,
> >> Maurice
> >>
> >> --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Dan Nyutu
> >> <denyutu at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such Thing as KKK
> >> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> >> Received: Friday, December 4, 2009, 6:27 AM
> >>
> >>
> >> Lee,
> >>
> >> I think what you say is very true but a sad part of Kenya.
> >> We have the
> >> same guys (or their kids or wives) every election cycle yet
> >> Kenyans
> >> are poorer.
> >>
> >> If the above are to be the only ones in 2012, i will go for
> >> Raila any
> >> day. But i still believe in miracles!
> >>
> >> PS: You forgot Martha Karua. I admire her. hope she can be
> >> in Raila's
> >> camp so that she stays in govt.
> >>
> >> Dan.
> >>
> >> On 12/4/09, Lee Makwiny <amosogal at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Dan the idea is good! But remember that the names that
> >> will be on the ballot
> >> > box are :
> >> >
> >> > 1. Raila Odinga
> >> > 2. Kalonzo Musyoka
> >> > 3. William Ruto
> >> > 4. Musalia Mudavadi (though he may support RAO)
> >> > 5. Uhuru kenyatta
> >> > 6. Nazlin  Umar
> >> > 7. Moses Wetangula
> >> > 8. Elijah
> >>  Kombo
> >> >
> >> > We have only three years left and from the look of
> >> things, i don't see a YP
> >> > rising between now and 2012, unless we have a DJ who
> >> is ready to take over!!
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Though i do not support the idea of a
> >> revolution,(from YP, too scared of
> >> >> govt intelligences, LOL!!) i think Oranga's
> >> ideas are great ideals we
> >> >> should
> >> >> think about.
> >> >>
> >> >> The PM is doing a good job with MAU but like his
> >> peers, he has been there
> >> >> for far too long. He has done great with Kibaki
> >> and i wish he was on the
> >> >> controlling pedal but come 2012, i hope we can
> >> show our love for him by
> >> >> allowing him to retire peacefully with Kibaki and
> >> he will be a true
> >> >>
> >>  statesman.
> >> >>
> >> >> My hope for 2012, as i have mentioned repeatedly
> >> in this forum, is that we
> >> >> retire the entire Independence generation (and
> >> their empire families) who
> >> >> have nothing to show for their stay in politics as
> >> matters of Kenya's
> >> >> progress are concerned. We also need to retire all
> >> those who were involved
> >> >> in PEV. Since some communities may want to retain
> >> their kinsmen who
> >> >> brought
> >> >> our country so low with PEV, i hope the ICC
> >> assists us here.
> >> >>
> >> >> So the Rutos, Kenyattas, Kibakis, Odingas etc...
> >> go retire in peace come
> >> >> 2012.
> >> >>
> >> >> Then the young professionals please get into
> >> political parties and help
> >> >> turn around our country through revolutionalising
> >> parties come 2012.
> >> >>
> >> >> Dan.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Oranga, Daniel
> >>  <doranga at kcb.co.ke>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>  ?how we talk about other and not
> >> us,  are we not leaders enough to stand
> >> >>> up and make a better future for ourselves and
> >> our children children. What
> >> >>> exactly are we idolizing this mentioned
> >> individuals about??? Have they
> >> >>> raised our living standards, added a sugar
> >> spoon  or even shaken our
> >> >>> hands
> >> >>> in church?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> My good people why don?t we do a
> >> revolution?.then have new names like
> >> >>> oranga, Kiprop, wanjiru, kamunde and oduor hit
> >> the headlines with
> >> >>> developmental issues??we can run this
> >> country
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> *From:* maurice oduor [mailto:mauricejoduor at yahoo.ca<mauricejoduor at yahoo.ca>
> ]
> >> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:18 PM
> >> >>>
> >> >>> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> >> >>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such
> >> Thing as KKK
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Ruto is advised to be consistent. So far he is
> >> quite impatient and is
> >> >>> burning his bridges. He needs to be patient.
> >> He is still a young man who
> >> >>> can
> >> >>> be President in future. I will personally vote
> >> for him come 2017 and do
> >> >>> everything in my power to make his presidency
> >> a success. Let him support
> >> >>> Raila for now for that
> >>  is his only insurance to attain the presidency; we
> >> >>> will deliver the votes to him. We supported
> >> Kibaki in 2002 and that was a
> >> >>> tough sell. Supporting Ruto in 2017 will be a
> >> very easy task, believe
> >> >>> me..
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I will personally mobilize Kenyans to propel
> >> him to power. But if he
> >> >>> wants
> >> >>> to remain a Kalenjin Chief and no more, then
> >> he is using a good strategy.
> >> >>> It
> >> >>> is such a shame that he is allowing the
> >> Kutunys and the Isaac Rutos to
> >> >>> take
> >> >>> control of his political future. If he is
> >> thinking about this KKK
> >> >>> nonsense
> >> >>> then his future is doomed. He should forget
> >> about being President; our Mt
> >> >>> Kenya never vote for anyone who hails from a
> >> different tribe. I am sure
> >> >>> he
> >> >>> knows that.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If anyone has
> >>  Ruto's phone #, please give it to me. i would like to
> >> >>> explain my position to him.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Courage,
> >> >>> Maurice
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --- On *Tue, 12/1/09, Kiprop Simion <kiprop.simion at gmail.com>*
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> From: Kiprop Simion <kiprop.simion at gmail.com>
> >> >>> Subject: Fwd: [YP_Ke] There is no Such Thing
> >> as KKK
> >> >>> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> >> >>> Received: Tuesday, December 1,
> >>  2009, 6:25 AM
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Dear all,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> From the Politics we have seen in the country
> >> for several years. It seems
> >> >>> we are still  politically illiterate.MAU
> >> issue is more than meets the
> >> >>> eye,
> >> >>> its a much complex issue than you think ,note
> >> that political landscape
> >> >>> changes everyday.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> A good politician is the one who can generate
> >> serious discomfort to other
> >> >>> political peers .......Raila is no longer the
> >> man Ruto is?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Who thought that Ruto could Mobilise 10
> >> Cabinet Ministers to the Panafric
> >> >>> function...........??
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at
> >>  11:33 AM, Maryann Wanjiru <
> >> >>> cirumariga2007 at gmail.com
> >> <http://mc/compose?to=cirumariga2007 at gmail.com>>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Evictions at Mau are not going to benefit
> >> Raila's homestead, its for
> >> >>> kenya
> >> >>> as a country and the whole region at large. I
> >> wonder where Uhuru was when
> >> >>> IDPs were walking on foot from Naivasha to was
> >> it nyahururu? which was
> >> >>> more
> >> >>> than 80 kilometers on the rain for days as
> >> women miscarried and children
> >> >>> caught phenumonia???? are those the
> >> Kikuyu's he is talking of being in
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> KKK?????
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Pole sana Uhuru, u r politically
> >>  finished round hii! u can go look for
> >> >>> votes somewhere in Eldoret. though i wish
> >> Ocampo can act faster. kila mtu
> >> >>> abebe msalaba yake!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Allen Kamunde
> >> >>> <alkamyoyo at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=alkamyoyo at yahoo.com>>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hello,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It pains me everytime i see people referring
> >> to such thing as KKK. It
> >> >>> just
> >> >>> Doesnt exist!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> That is just a grouping of 3 people; Uhuru,
> >> Ruto, Kalonzo. Just ask
> >> >>> yourselves, Do you
> >>  believe they speak on behalf of the said people they
> >> >>> purport to speak for? Do they really have the
> >> blessings of the said
> >> >>> people?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> My answer is no! and the can go to hell.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Evitions have to continue, and to Raila, you
> >> can only get stronger,
> >> >>> Kudos!
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 3 DAYS TO GO!!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF
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> >> & Constitutional Affairs
> >> >> Minister, Gichugu MP.
> >> >> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of
> >> YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
> >> >> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the
> >> Mau Politics.
> >> >>
> >> >> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> >> >> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> >> >> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> >> >> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
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> >> > GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice &
> >> Constitutional Affairs
> >> > Minister, Gichugu MP.
> >> > TOPIC: The
> >>  Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans
> >> Get It
> >> > Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau
> >> Politics.
> >> >
> >> > Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> >> > Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> >> > Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> >> > Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
> >> > Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Daniel Nyutu
> >>
> >> Strategy Consultant
> >> Strategic Leadership Center International
> >> Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100
> >> Nairobi, Kenya.
> >> Tel: 3872252/ 3877637/ 2067622
> >> Email: dnyutu at gmail.com
> >> Cell: 0728-200075
> >>
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> >> and expecting
> >> different results"
> >>
> >> Albert Einstein (Attributed)
> >> US (German born) Physicist (1879-1955)
> >>
> >> --
> >> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
> >>
> >> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
> >> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> >> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
> >> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice &
> >> Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP.
> >> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To
> >> Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She
> >>  Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
> >>
> >> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> >> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
> >> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
> >> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
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> >> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
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> >>
> >> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
> >>
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> >> Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP.
> >>
> >> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To
> >> Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also
> >> Talk On the Mau Politics.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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From eoyugi at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 08:04:24 2009
From: eoyugi at yahoo.com (Ernest OYUGI)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 05:04:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] EQUITY BANK LOANS
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dear YP/s 

ma i know if anyone in small biz in here has benefited from equity business loan

regards

Ernest
 


      

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Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm

Meeting Venue: Koblenz hall, Mombasa Coast Tourism and Hotels Association Offices - Moi Avenue (this has been provided by Millie, member. Tea will also be served courtesy of her).

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From jairuschurch at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  6 20:18:44 2009
From: jairuschurch at yahoo.com (Jagem K'Onyiego)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:18:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Querries on the Bible
Message-ID: <101894.66492.qm@web62107.mail.re1.yahoo.com>





Muita,
?
This is a long one, but if you can stay through, then it may well introduce you to viewing and reading the book from a broader angle. I think, though the Bible is Holy, when one is reading?the book,?it should not be treated as a matter of Life and death, as it is meant to bring peace joy and happiness to the reader.
I like?the second name because it reminds me of my youth during Christmas time. That is when many Ngokos would fall and we the children were happy all the time till January, when school and the "mugunda" work?set in?
?
Anyways, let us go back to the Holy Book and Spirituals. In my view the Bible is a book that cannot be read in abstract. I mean, you cannot choose to read the book in total disconnect, as though those things written, did not take place. For me I believe that what is written in the Bible took place right here on earth. So when we read the book, we must relate it to those events that took place and the geographical locations where?it all?happened.. If this is what is spirituality, or divinity, then let it be. But if one reads the Bible and fails to connect it to the historical events, then that person fails to comprehend or to appreciate the wholesomeness and the message in the book. 
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For me I chose to read the Book and to relate everything in it to those historical events. For example, the teachings or recorded teachings in the Book of Mark, were originally inscribed on "plates" of stones. These stones are "Physically" stored at St Georges (Mar Girgis, by Locals), Church in North Western part of El Khahera (Cairo, Egypt). I have gone into the Church and touched these Stones with my own hands. I went even further?and requested for translation of some writings on some of the stones. Unfortunately, many of the "Keepers", were not fluent at all in translating the Hebrew language that was used to inscribe the stones. But reassuringly they told me that the book of St Mark is a summary of?the text "INSCRIBED" on those stones. They then referred me to a Prof El Bitar, an Egyptology Professor at El Shams University in Cairo?for full translation. I could not get to physically meet with the Professor, but on Telephone conversation, he
 confirmed what I was told at the Church.
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That Church also holds a special "Tree of Memory." I gathered that Mary, the mother of Jesus lived in Egypt in Exile after she ran away from being persecuted by Romans. She lived with her young child there. The tree became known as the tree of Mary. Because of curiosity and my interest of asking many questions, a number of keepers told me that if I wanted more information about Hebrews, then I should visit?Jerusalem, which I regret I have not done.?
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I therefore concluded that the events in the Bible, must?physically have happened?here on earth. So when I read the Bible I must relate and try to connect it?to the real events, and where those events took place, plus the circumstances that led to them taking place.
Many contributors here seem as though they have confined themselves to reading the Bible in the abstract, then believing that by doing this some "Spiritual Connection" may consume them, after which they will be able to see these events clearly. I cannot dismiss this nor do?I have the authority to do so. 
I say this because there are people out there, who have the very powerful Spirits bestowed in them. Such Spirits (Holy) guides these people to see what is beyond the ordinary occurrence. I have come across two such people in my life,?who have the power to read and to decode the?writings in the such books as?Revelations. They can guide one into seeing through Visions that were seen by for Example Prophet Daniel, thousands of years ago but which are?presently coming to pass. 
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Yes, these kinds of people are there,?yet when they talk, the masses ignore them, just?in the same manner as?they ignored Prophet Jeremiah, who continuously reminded them to follow the Laws. On the other hand a great majority who claim to be consumed by these holy spirits are just but "False Prophets". Jesus himself knew about it and predicted that there shall come many false prophets.
It therefore believe Mr Wangoko, that?it does not require Spirituality, divinity or anything special for many of us to read and connect the message in the Book. Many a times it only requires simple brain to read and to be able to understand.
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My mind also tells me that, the more we make it a mystery, the more we will never understand it. We have to demystify it, to be able to understand the book. For example; Many of the Prophets in the book "claim to be 'Black'. Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Samuel, David, King Solomon, etc. say in the Book, that they are Black. Yet when you ask some of the readers and even Pastors, they will deny this. So which one is correct, the written message or the message from the reader? 
Sample this also; 'If King David claims that "I am consumed by my Blackness," meaning he was overwhelmed by himself being black, why would someone take it from David to translate or say otherwise? And if David was Black and?Jesus was from the House of David, would?Jesus be expected to be different?from David??So then, how did we end up with a Caucasian picture of Jesus. Don't you think there is a disconnect on that occurrence
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Further, if Mary and child escaped and went to hide amongst Egyptians (Black people), would they have been Caucasian??And if they were Caucasian as has been portrayed in many Pictures, would it have taken the Roman Soldiers a long time not to notice a Caucasian Woman with a child amongst black people, considering?that the Roman soldiers roamed about just everywhere?? So it is highly probable that Mary and the Child were black,?which made them to blend?with the black population. As such it was not easy to spot or pick them out amongst the crowd. Spirituality or no spirituality, I think this would just needs?common sense to get the answer.
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A number of people have been indoctrinated to believe that when it comes to Religious and or spiritual matters,?we must not question but just believe. This to some degree is good, until a lie is concocted and blended in. The believer will therefore continue to believe in that Lie, to be part of the truth. And since he/she is supposed to believe without questioning, the lie will then come to be the the truth. 
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In my life, I have always had this nudging urge to ask, WHY?? My mother, (peace be upon her) always found me bothersome in stupidly asking "why'" on a lot of?issues. I was never satisfied to be told that, a man was found to have defiled the land, and so he was fined to bring a "black bull" to be slaughtered so that the land could be cleansed. I asked why,?and since my father was away working in Dar-es-salaam, there was nobody to answer my questions. So my mother taking the role of a Father ended up telling me that that is the way it is done. Neither was I contented when everyone in the Village had to wait for my Grandfather, Marenya Komondi, to start the Planting season, before anybody else in the village?could put seedlings on their farms. I asked? WHY? And I was told just to believe.
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Time went on,?and life in the village took a different turn, for many embraced the new found religion of Mzungu. They got saved and as it turned out, Mzungus's religion told them to?abandon the ways of the Clan for those ways were heathen. And so life went on. Nobody in the village no longer waited for my Grandfather to do what they call in our local language "GOLO KODHI." Everyone went doing things in their own ways. Many parents turned to the Catholic missions and took their kids there, where they were forced to take "catechism" Katkaism) as it was?known to the?villagers. And so many kids recited this Katkaism even when they went to?"freehold" toilets.? It was the in thing for Kids. One day out of curiosity I accompanied other Kids to go to "KOPERE", the nearest mission to my home.?The father there was called "O'PERE"?an Irishman. 
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When I arrived there, everything looked?strange to me.? I was introduced as a new boy by my friends. The father then put me in a group with other "New-ees" and proceeded to introduce us to this Katkaism. When the "MISA" was over I was so glad to be headed on a three mile walk back to the Village. Most important I kept asking WHY? Why all that trouble??Couldn't life just be simple. I then proceeded to tell my mother about my escapades at?Kopere, only to draw her wrath and a beating for having abandoned her faith at the Protestant "Anglican Church" to embrace the bad Catholic. But even after the canes I still asked Why? Because I wanted to understand?all these happenings.
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Unfortunately I never got a clear answer. More?confusion for me happened in 1970 when my old Grandfather passed on at a ripe old age of died. He?must have been?111 years for he was born in "the other year mwaka 59" (1859). At his funeral there was controversy for who to bury him. No church wanted to do so, for he was not a member of any of these "Good for Nothing Mzungu Churches". One man of God, who was his long time friend called Simon Nyende (peace be upon him), and who had tried persuading my Grandfather to be born again in vain, declared that he would bury my Grandfather with prayers. Simon (pronounced See-mon) had Parkinson syndrome, but the Villagers joked that God made him to shake all over. When he made the announcement, he sort of burst out that I......have.....de....de...CIDED to bury my friend .
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For me I still asked why? I wanted to know why it was difficult for the churches to bury my grandfather, especially considering the fact that I had heared,?in the Church that God was for all. Why then were they discriminating? Why? I kept asking but nobody offered me an answer. 
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In the last ten years,? I have tried?reading the Holy Book, while trying to relate the events to the?geographical locations. It has compelled me to do some little research, which has led me to gain some little knowledge on?issues of the Holy Book. The book apparently?puts a lot of emphasis on the Children of Israel. I?therefore had the urge to?find out who these children of Israel are, and where they are located at the present time.?I also had to try to find who this Israel was?and where he lived when he was alive.
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Now, when I did this,?I did?it not because I was looking for spiritual empowerment,?but I, on the other hand,?wanted to have a clear picture, plus the genealogy of these Israelites.?What I can tell you for now, is that the Children of Israel are scattered in all Nations just like the Most High promised them, if they failed to follow the Laws. For some time now, they have been lost and nobody knows exactly who they are and their true Identity. But one way to trace them is to go back to the book of Leviticus, 26: In Verse 37, Israelites are?told that if?they fail to observe the Laws, then they will will be made too weak to defend themselves. "?And ye shall have no power to stand before your enemies."?And they will be scattered? among all the people from one end of the earth to the other, to serve people, and other Gods that they have not known, Duet:?28:63,-68. And the Lord will bring you back into Mizraim again with ships and there ye shall be
 sold unto your enemies for Bondmen. 
>From there, check the present History, going back 400years. Find out which people were bound like this, and taken back into slavery, then you will probably have found these lost children of Israel. Try also to find out who were the Bondsmen?
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This then led me to another question; 'who were the Gentiles'? And where did the Gentiles live? and where are they at the moment in time? And why was Yehoshwah against their ways? To find answers to these, I made some quick reference to Geography, some old maps and locations in and around the present city of Jerusalem, for a lot of the Biblical History are based in this area. I then found out that the?Gentiles occupied the "ISLE OF THE GENTILES"? This area is what is now known as Europe.
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So ask yourself who are the occupants of this area? Then you will know who the Gentiles are. Now, Jesus would not be warning people not to follow the ways of these Gentiles, if he was one of them? For Example,?If I am a "Jango" I would not be advising people not to follow Jango ways, ama? So he must have been doing this because either Jesus was not from them or he had a special reason to do so.?Further intrigues;.....Galilee, Judah, Bethlehem and all other parts were occupied by or were under the rule of the Romans, under Governor ("Prefect") Pontias Pilate".?Don't forget that there were, High Priests, manning all Temples at this time, while the land was under the rule of King Herod.
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At this point Wangoko, if you?continue asking why, then you might be able to dig deeper, to find why, Jesus resented the High Priests, and why he warned the people not to go into the ways of the Gentiles. Why did Jesus say that he never came to change the Laws, but to perfect them. And which were these Laws that he was talking about? And Why did he not want to change them?........ Quick answer! These were the Laws that the Children of Israel were to follow as commanded by God. For God had promised that if they failed to follow these Laws, he would scatter them all over the land to unknown places and the Land would be laid desolate (barren) for generations, until such a time that?the children will see the light to return to him (in other words?start to follow the laws). 
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Where are these?laws? The laws are clearly spell on the book of Levi (Leviticus) otherwise known in the Language of people from Kopere as "CHIKE".? Jesus did not and will not change these Laws as he knew that the Father wanted the Children of Israel to follow them just the way they were written.
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Obsessed or not obsessed by spiritual powers, this is what I understand. Anybody else is free to know what they want to know, but for me, this is what I understand. All I need to do is to follow the Laws. Same old laws that my Grandfather followed just as they are spell on the Book of Leviticus, till the Lord comes to Gather us so that he can TAKE US BACK TO THE PROMISED LAND, as is written on Numbers 33. At that point he will use the Blood of the "those" who have constantly defiled the land by spilling the blood there, to cleans the land, before putting the children back.?
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Keep Asking Why and be enlightened.
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K"Onyiego???

--- On Fri, 12/4/09, Muita Wangoko <muitawangoko at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Muita Wangoko <muitawangoko at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Querries on the Bible
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 5:24 AM


Well guys, am confused.? Like Sagongonyi, I have always had many questions about the Bible.? It may not have documented all that may be we may have wanted to know, at best, it has explain quite a number of things.? Most people will always tell you that you need the holy spirit to manifest in you for you to understand and so this compels me to ask, how and when does the Holy spirit manifest oneself?

Sometimes I wonder, why does God make it so hard for us to interact with Him - I mean when can I know that am talking to God? People talk of believing through faith and actually, the Bible quotes a number of places that indicates that faith is the core to believing in God.? How do I vehemently believe in what I have not seen? Is it true that there are people who talk to God? Many pastors and people of strong faiths assert so.

The book of Leviticus talks so much about the culture of Jews, I don't understand why we need there history.? Why do we need to read about things that may not apply to the contemporary societies?? Is it possible then that the Bible translators may have distorted the real messages from the Bible during the translations? 


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On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:25, jenniffer ndung'u <jennywanjiru at yahoo.com> wrote:





This was very informative and good reading, I wish we could have more and more of such materials.? Thanks 









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--- On Wed, 12/2/09, Robinson Manguro <rmanguro at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Robinson Manguro <rmanguro at gmail.com> 

Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Querries on the Bible
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 6:41 AM 






What Stanley has pouinted out is very true. We need the guidance of the holy spirit to understand the Bible. The bible also relates in all verses and does not contradict itself. Some verses in later books clarify some points that might not be clear in thers.
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I would like to point out that God created Adam and Eve and that is where we all descended from. The division of the people seems to start clearing when some(read Cain) rebelled agianst God and teh Jews, so reffered to as the children of God.?If you continue to read ypu will find that most of these other "people" like teh Amonites, Egyptians etc worshipped idols. The good news comes in the new testament when Christ came and did for us all. Paul tells that there is neither Jew nor Greek, circumcised or uncircumcised?for we have all been redeemed by Christ. God calls?all of us His Children as told by John in his later epistles only if we obey His commandments. This way, even Kenyans and Africans can relate to God's teachings and instructiosn to the Israelites.
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God bless you as you endeavour to understand the Bible.
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i have attached a pdf file for you to see the Uniqueness of Scripture
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From: jemayi at yahoo.com (Jane Kibisu)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:57:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: An Open Letter to PM Raila
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From: kenne2ke at yahoo.com (kennedy waweru)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 05:50:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Faith
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You see, I have been involved in several forums and seen the sudden
interest in the Bible by young scholars. The credibility of the Bible
has been questioned since days of old and even today it is still under
scrutiny. Sadly, to a significant number, the Bible has been dismissed
as either a book of myths or simply a documentation of the traditions
of the Jews and therefore having nothing to do with us. Sad to say that
the devil knows very well of the power of the word and is out to
destroy, not the Bible, but the faith that makes it all work.

I do not know what your perception of the Bible is, whether you see it
as bias and unfair, corrupt or simply a way of controlling the minds of
the poor, but to me it still remains to be the power of God. I have no
way of convincing you through scientific facts, to make you come to the
Lord, but I simply ask you to take the first step of faith.

1 Corinthians chapter one, depicts two kinds of people

	1. Greeks; the learned, philosophers, those who seek wisdom and
scientific facts; The Bible says this of them, "that they seek wisdom"
so as to understand the message of the cross. They try to decipher,
through humanly wisdom, the wisdom of God. They try to poke holes in
the message of the cross and even try to advise God by suggesting what
should have been done. Well, God says this "I will catch them in their
wisdom" " I will make their wisdom foolishness" "the intelligence of
the intelligent I will frustrate  "Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher
of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For
since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know
him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to
save those who believe. 1 cor 1:20-21
	2. The second type are the Jews; these are the religious types, the
overly religious who seek not the Spirit but live by sight. These kind
of people require a sign to believe. Yes, despite all the things that
testify that there is God including their very being, they still
require a sign, little knowing that even the devil can give them a sign
and actually will give these signs according to the book of revelation
and therefore succeed in deceiving these kinds of people.

I do not know where you fall here, whether you are a "Greek" or a
"Jew", or you are one of those who approached the Lord like a little
child in faith. You see, I have really learned a lot from children (
believe me). I have found out that children are indeed like the kingdom
of God. Of their faith, wow! Many many lessons have I learned, and
continue to learn, form little children including forgiveness (you know
how they fight and then make up and forget the whole thing ever
happened, something difficult for adults) and more so faith. It is very
easy to bring a child to God, and explain what God is all about and
they believe and have faith in Him. Their prayer is usually simple,
straightforward and sincere, not superficial at all. Off course am not
saying that children are perfect, all am saying is that, just like
Jesus said, we need to approach the kingdom of heaven, not by
scientific philosophy, not by miraculous signs but by pure faith in
God. Only then will we start seeing the power thereof.

Once the credibility of the Bible is destroyed, people will be open to
a full onslaught of false doctrine. People will be told of the return
of Jesus and go out to see Him simply because they no longer walk by
faith and no longer heed what the Bible warned. Big
"evangelists/prophets/prea
chers/apostles"
will give faulty doctrine and perform miracles and therefore deceive
many who walk by sight. And there will come one who brings fire from
heaven and people will see him as the "messiah" then and believe. Those
days are near, days when true Christians will be viewed as cult members
because they will be few and will seem to be radical therefore hated by
many. Days when true Christians will seem to go against the grain. Days
when all will be after a perceived "peace" and find it in the hands of
the devil. These Christians will seem to be anti peace, something the
world craves for, peace, little knowing that this is only found in
Jesus and He has left it to those who believe for it will be in them
through trials and tribulations. 

My friends, the Bible is nothing but a novel for those without faith,
but to those who have it, it is the power of God! The sons of scheva
thought of the power of God as a tool to use but learned the hard way.
And Hebrews says

For we also have heard the gospel preached to us, just as they did; but
the message they heard was of no value to them because those who heard
it did not combine it with faith. Hebrews 4:2

The just shall live by faith, just like the heroes of faith gone before us did.

If you live by sight, what will happen when one comes in the name of
the son of Man and perform wonders and miracles and sits in the temple
of God? What will you believe when big "preachers" perform miracles yet
violate the laws of God? Even today we have false preachers with large
following, and these people feed from their preachers only and do not
care to pray and read the word for themselves despite the Bible saying
this to us, that
"If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to
all without finding fault, and it will be given to them" Hebrews 1:5

What will happen when scholars come to you with hard evidence "proving"
that there is no God, and therefore the Bible is false? will you not
become like a wave tossed and turned by the winds, a debased mind with
no connection with the maker?

Have you ever wondered why many will be deceived in the end times
despite the fact that the Bible clearly warns and foretells of the
events of the end time? Why does it say "to the extent of the elect
being deceived, if that was possible"? This tells us of how great the
deception will be. Too great for those who don't know their God to
resist. And in 1 Thes 2, we are told that the secret power of
lawlessness is already at work and he will be revealed in the proper
time as an "angel" of light.

People, in as much as we love our pastors and teachers, let us be like
the Bereans. Let's quit swallowing all we are preached about without
looking to see that the Bible is for it. The culture of "My pastor says
this.." while good, should be accompanied by brethren who also test to
see if all is from God. Today, we have philosophical words which are
contrary to the word but have been adapted by Christians simply because
they were spoken by great philosophers or are catchy.

And also, lets remember that the devil is like a roaring lion and we
should not be ignorant of his schemes. It's not all rosy as it seems
but his secret works are already at work. Therefore, lets form a
praying culture and Bible study in preparation, let us also go out in
the field and warn our neighbors that the time is ripe and the owner is
knocking at the door to see what we have done with His Son.

May God help us and give us discernment and wisdom to follow His ways to the end.

Amen.

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing,
but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is
written:
"I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.

1 cor 1:18-19
 Kind Regards,
Ken 



      

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From ruonyango at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 09:02:56 2009
From: ruonyango at gmail.com (Ruth Onyango)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:02:56 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Knowledgable but unwise
Message-ID: <3dc59a9d0912070602s384b72a2r8a00299079b7b443@mail.gmail.com>

Mutahi,

Well someone looking at you when you are composed and your mouth and pen at
bay will imagine what a intelligent hundsome man, with a broad smile and
well schooled. My friend it is time to put sense and logic to your
write-ups. Kenyans are not looking at you to re-invent the wheel and as such
if you got nothing sensible and constructive to write, please dont display
your ignorance and skills of preaching hatred.

Surely wisdom is not found in the volumes of books one articulates!!!!!!

Ruth

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From amenya.gibson at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 09:12:40 2009
From: amenya.gibson at gmail.com (amenya gibson)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:12:40 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Post Doctoral Research Position
Message-ID: <54e76b740912070612g3000b076uaf7fb66ff5d566db@mail.gmail.com>

Application deadline:
Wed, 01/20/2010

Application deadline:
Hi YPs
Those who have interest in studies
January 20th 2010

Full Or Part Time:

Full-Time
Duties and responsibilities:
The Center for Policy Studies (http://cps.ceu.hu) and the Department
of Public Policy (http://www.dpp.ceu.hu) at the Central European
University invite applicants for a post doctoral research position
starting in 2010. The successful candidate will help strengthen
existing public welfare research at CEU by specializing in public
health policy and development. S/he will carry out research on the
challenges of delivering public health services in low and middle
income countries. Candidates would be invited to carry out research
that addresses one or more of the following themes:
    * organizing and financing effective health care for graying or
shrinking populations;
    * public policy towards migration, informal work and care drain;
    * tackling major diseases within restricted budgets and shortages
of health care professionals;
    * integrating public health promotion into development policy at
national or sub-national level

 Qualifications:
    * Applicants should be early stage researchers, with a PhD from
economics, sociology, public policy or other relevant social science
discipline.
 Compensation:
Commensurate with experience. However, we offer a competitive salary,
as well as a dynamic and international academic environment.
 How to apply:
Applicants need to submit: Full resume, An outline of research (1000
words), Two publication samples, Two letters of recommendation
Informal enquiries may be addressed to Dr. Andrew Cartwright at
cartwrighta at ceu.hu Please send your complete application package to:
advert at ceu.hu - including job code in subject line: 2009/027 or
Central European University Human Resources ? Code: 2009/027 Budapest,
Nador utca 9 H-1051 Hungary CEU is an equal opportunity employer.


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From amwawana at ci.or.ke  Mon Dec  7 09:16:10 2009
From: amwawana at ci.or.ke (amwawana at ci.or.ke)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:16:10 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] pray for my family
References: <01A7CEFE76646D4BBA97ACE1E9EE79EC173B0535@BARUAPEPE.kcbad.com>
	<66D6DB93A103433FB5FA2D5011880754@chigwell.co.ke>
Message-ID: <344725625EE38D4B81E1614F50DC28CD02852782@caresss-mailsvr.caresss.org>

My Brother John,

 

God gives and takes, trust in him and he will strengthen you and your
family, having gone through the same, I understand your feelings. But
God will see you through.

 

Be strong and put your focus on Christ.

 

Mwawana, Anthony.

 

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: Kuria, Mwangi <mailto:MKuria at kcb.co.ke>  

	To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com 

	Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:05 AM

	Subject: [YP_Ke] pray for my family

	 

	Hi good people, pls pray for my family at these trying times
following demise of my daughter.
	
	Regards
	John Kuria, Nairobi
	
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From abierocarole at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 09:41:33 2009
From: abierocarole at yahoo.com (ABBY OTIENO)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:41:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] Fw: [YP_Ke] CHICKS FLASHING CARELESSLY
In-Reply-To: <213868.73306.qm@web58707.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <213868.73306.qm@web58707.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <112475.41721.qm@web111901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

omg!!!! decent ladies dont flash, r u talking of chicks?????? which chicks r these??? i hve never flashed any man even my own, coz i believe am a mature lady!!!! so play ur cards well Felix

Abby




________________________________
From: kate diana <katediana2000 at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 3:36:50 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [YP_Ke] CHICKS FLASHING CARELESSLY



Good? Ojoo 
TELL HIM AS IT IS

deal with chicks and women you get what they can offer deal with??ladies and they wont flash you any more.


?
--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Faith Kiliswa <faith at ansetintl.com> wrote:


>From: Faith Kiliswa <faith at ansetintl.com>
>Subject: Fw: [YP_Ke] CHICKS FLASHING CARELESSLY
>To: ojoo at starlit.co.ke, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 4:18 AM
>
>
>?
>?
>you have hit right on the head !!!!
>?
>?
>?
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Solomon Ojoo 
>To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:15 PM
>Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] CHICKS FLASHING CARELESSLY
>
>
>IF YOU CONTINUE HAVING CHICKS, THEN THEY WILL FLASH.
>
>BUT I ADVISE YOU START DEALING WITH LADIES.
>
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: Felix Otieno
>Date: 12/07/09 14:58:22
>To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>Subject: [YP_Ke] CHICKS FLASHING CARELESSLY
>
>Hi YPs,
>?What has become of our women today? Safaricom introduced bamba 5 and chicks still have the audacity to flash. Am I missing something here?
>-- 
>RegardsART 
>
>Felix.O
>P.o.Box 18766-00100
>Nairobi
>+254733471116
>Nairobi
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>TOMMORROW!! LYP MOMBASA 1st Organization Meeting
>?
>Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm
>?
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>?
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>?
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>?
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>?
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>?
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>?
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>?
>Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm
>?
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>?
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>?
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From president at kenyansabroad.org  Mon Dec  7 10:21:09 2009
From: president at kenyansabroad.org (KCA President)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 00:51:09 +0930
Subject: [Jambo] Kenya Diaspora organisations & businesses
Message-ID: <c708204c0912070721k6c36c794l99412891f3ceb6d3@mail.gmail.com>

To All Kenyans in the Diaspora

We are compiling a list of Kenyan Diaspora organisations and bussinesses
plus any other businesses and services that are of interest to the
Diaspora.
The list will be made available on our website free of charge.

Please send us details of Kenyan organisations and businesses in your area.
The information we need is:

Name of business/organisation
Address: street, surburb/city, country
Telephone
Fax
Email
Website
Type of business/service

If you know a Kenyan who operates a business abroad please send us their
business details.

Thank you.

-- 
Dr. I.M. Ogendi
for KCA Executive Committee

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From info at umojaentertainment.com  Mon Dec  7 12:03:38 2009
From: info at umojaentertainment.com (UMOJA ENTERTAINMENT)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:03:38 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] Jamhuri Day Throwdown In Jersey This Sat 12.12.09
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From newsletter at kara.or.ke  Mon Dec  7 05:02:31 2009
From: newsletter at kara.or.ke (The Kenya Alliance of Resident Associations(KARA))
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:02:31 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] The KARA Weekly Newsletter Issue No. 248, December 2009
Message-ID: <MDAEMON-F200912071303.AA0327343pd50001116153@kara.or.ke>

Issue No. 248: Editor's highlights of the week:
Welcome to your favourite, authoritative and the consistent KARA Weekly Newsletter. As always, we appreciate your valued feedback. In a couple of hours, Kara's BTS-17 at The Stanley Hotel opens its doors to a heated discussion on the recently adopted land policy, which is not a legislation in itself, but one which paves way for a possible future legislation. Thank you for reading us. Editor

                               

What others say . Amb. Prof. Michael Koech:          

"I am pleased with the very well structured and informative, and up to date Kara Weekly e-Newsletter.  It is really professionally done.  I am very impressed with the ways issues are presented. Very good job", Prof. Koech (Nema's first director general) teaches at Kenyatta University; is the incoming Chairman of Kara's Environment and is currently attending the climate change talks in Copenhagen. Immediate former committee Chairman Prof. Mwakio Tole is the new deputy principal (administration and finance) at Pwani University College.  

"Thank you for keeping us continuously updated," Ms. Patricia Kimanthi, Public Relations Manager, Kenya Bureau of Standards

 

2009 in review: regulators that failed consumers

Kenya's regulatory agencies continue to perform dismally, often to the detriment of consumers of goods and services as well as the national economy. Poor corporate governance at the institutions combined with partisan political board appointments have reduced regulatory agencies to guzzlers of taxpayers' revenue with little value to show. Full-story 

 

Wangari Maathai's address with Prince of Wales

On 15th December, Prof. Wangari Maathai will be making a keynote speech alongside HRH The Prince of Wales at the opening ceremony of the High Level part of the UNFCCC Climate Conference in Copenhagen. This is the first day of the second week of the conference, when the Heads of State and Ministers participate. This invitation reflects the impact of the pioneering work carried out by Prof. Maathai in the environmental arena within Africa and as an inspiration to others around the world for the past thirty years. Kara congratulates her on this recognition.

 

Water minister Ngilu's full list of appointments

Water minister Mrs. Charity Ngilu has appointed Faith Karimi Njeru; Dr. Florence M. Musau; Mustafa Abdi Aman; Paul Mbatha; Joseph N. Weya and Stanley W. Gikandi as members of the Board of Directors of the National Water Conservation and Pipeline Corporation. Full-story 

 

The economics of Kenya's climate change? 

Please find the full project report and detailed technical annexes on the project website: http://kenya.cceconomics.org/  See also Frequently Asked Questions and material on the economics of climate adaptation in http://weadapt.org/  Please also see http://www.sei-international.org/index.php/news-and-media/1730-kenya-urged-to-better-coordinate-its-policies-on-climate-adaptation 

 

'Neighbourhood Kenya' - Jan - Feb. '2010 Survey

You have another chance to nominate the Top 10 Hotels, Restaurants and Lodges" you believe offer the best value for money; hospitality, among other virtues. Send your nominations, together with the citations to research at kara.or.ke . We will publish the survey results in the jan/Feb 2010 Neighbourhood Kenya journal.

 

Calendar of key events - December 2009

07 Dec - Kara Bimonthly Talk Series - 17 on land policy at Sarova Hotel

08 Dec - KARA Governing Council Meeting/End of Year Press Conference

12 Dec - Jamhuri Day Celebrations

14 Dec - SIFE Kenya Breakfast Meeting 

16 Dec - Nairobi Industrial Area Business and Residents Association's meeting 

16 Dec - 3 day Kenya Water and Sanitation CSO's Network retreat

 

DISCLAIMER: Clickhere TO JOIN OR SUPPORT KARA - Clickhere Safe Subscribe/Unsubscribe: To automatically subscribe - please send a message with subject 'subscribe' to kara_newsletter-subscribe at kara.or.ke You could similarly unsubscribe automatically by sending a mail to kara_newsletter-unsubscribe at kara.or.ke with the subject 'unsubscribe'.   

 

Contact KARA:

The Chief Executive Officer

The Kenya Alliance of Resident Associations (KARA)
Kabarnet Lane, Off Kabarnet Road, Off Ngong Rd
Tel. 254-20-3874331, 3873828, 2341515, Fax: 254-20-3862872 
Cellphones: 0725983445; 0772700007; 0733779585
E-mail: info at kara.or.ke or kara at accesskenya.co.ke 
Website: www.kara.or.ke 
KARA - "Together, We Will"

 

Useful Note: ? Contents of The KARA Weekly Newsletter may be freely reproduced on condition that the source is duly acknowledged. KARA is a member, partner and a director of the Washington DC based International Downtown Associations (IDA) - Read_more. The KARA Weekly Newsletter is proudly supported by AccessKenya - Your Corporate ISP.
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From Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com  Mon Dec  7 13:18:51 2009
From: Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com (Dickens Odhiambo)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:18:51 -0500 
Subject: [Jambo] FRIDAY DEC 11, 2009 JAMHURI DAY (WASHINGTON DC)
Message-ID: <EB0182407359D411BEBB009027CC692C079CEB32@apollo.gmsi.com>



> TO ALL KENYANS IN THE DIASPORA
http://www.kenyaembassy.com/events.html
> On the occasion of the 46th Anniversary of the Independence of the
> Republic of Kenya, Ambassador Peter N.R.O Ogego and Mrs. will be hosting a
> Reception to celebrate Jamhuri Day.All are welcome.
> DATE:FRIDAY DEC 11th ,09 TIME: 6:00 PM - 8:00 PM
> VENUE:
> Omni Shoreham Hotel
> 2500 Calvert St. NW
> Washington, DC 20008
> DRESS CODE: Business/National 
> 


From imo4492 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 10:26:09 2009
From: imo4492 at gmail.com (Ogendi)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 00:56:09 +0930
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Fwd: Kenya Diaspora organisations & businesses
In-Reply-To: <c708204c0912070721k6c36c794l99412891f3ceb6d3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c708204c0912070721k6c36c794l99412891f3ceb6d3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ef0448d50912070726p58ed506ds669e01516c36a451@mail.gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: KCA President <president at kenyansabroad.org>
Date: Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:51 AM
Subject: Kenya Diaspora organisations & businesses
To: kca_main at yahoogroups.com


To All Kenyans in the Diaspora

We are compiling a list of Kenyan Diaspora organisations and bussinesses
plus any other businesses and services that are of interest to the
Diaspora.
The list will be made available on our website free of charge.

Please send us details of Kenyan organisations and businesses in your area.
The information we need is:

 Name of business/organisation
Address: street, surburb/city, country
Telephone
Fax
Email
Website
Type of business/service

If you know a Kenyan who operates a business abroad please send us their
business details.

Thank you.

-- 
Dr. I.M. Ogendi
for Kenyan Community Abroad Executive Committee

Website: http://www.kenyansabroad.org



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Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm

Meeting Venue: Koblenz hall, Mombasa Coast Tourism and Hotels Association Offices - Moi Avenue (this has been provided by Millie, member. Tea will also be served courtesy of her).

Agenda: Introduction and the way forward for LYP Mombasa.

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From henryouma2002 at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 11:01:17 2009
From: henryouma2002 at yahoo.com (henry ouma)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:01:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] COE MUST STAND FIRM
Message-ID: <426677.57460.qm@web55401.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Gibson Kamau? Kuria, Rev Karanja-NCCK and others?must NOT take Kenyans for a ride.Their proposals on new constitutional order are
suspect and must thus be treated with suspicion-These are the only two Guys who mislead others on the right theory & system of govt?Kenya should adopt---How come during Moi era, these Guys were proponents of power sharing ??how come then, they stood for parliamentary democracy ? Whose hirelings could they be ?
?
These Guys must not purport to know what? is good for Kenyans from other regions.?Can the Guys tell us what is so good in a presidential system of govt and what their fears are for power sharing between a president who has no majority in parlaiment and a prime-minister whose party has majority in parliament ? If the Guys are out of favour with proposals in the draft, then one free to have an imperial govenor in their respective regions-THE COE did sterling job-----Kenyans exactly wanted a constitution and system of govt where power is shared, where political parties are stengthened and where coaltions can be rewarded. But accoriding to their view of one-man one vote , some bigger tribes will continue dominating others unfairly in matters of govt and state.This is the direction Kenya must avoid.?
?
Can these Guys tell Kenyans where in the world, there is head of govt?with minority in parliament?????
?
Who told Rev. Karanja that he must be spokesperson of Kenyans on matters constitutional ?
?
Why and how come -it is him who must find fault in what the COE has done-the harmonised draft Constitution??
?
Could these fellows be hirelings of? some Octagenerians in govt-who cannot imagine change in Kenya ? The beneficiaries of imperial presidency?since Kenya attained political independence ?
?
Finally can the two Guys tell Kenyans whether they can truly vote for any presidential candidate outside central Kenya ????
?
The 2007 BUNGLED general elections showed that Kenyans must find a way of taming tribal bigotry-No ethinic group however big or great?in numbers (human population)??must think of always scheming to dominate others-I would love a scenario where Raila? Odinga for example, supports a Kenyan from a minority tribe for a post of executive prime-minister and be head of govt.
?
THE COE Must stand firm and conduct an agrresive campaign for the draft as it stands-Kenyans cannot afford a presidential system that favours big tribes-a system that? entreched tribal wrangling for presidency over the years, a winner take it all system.


      

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Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm

Meeting Venue: Koblenz hall, Mombasa Coast Tourism and Hotels Association Offices - Moi Avenue (this has been provided by Millie, member. Tea will also be served courtesy of her).

Agenda: Introduction and the way forward for LYP Mombasa.

Confirm attendance by sending an email to josekamanthe at gmail.com

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From: Javid Syed <javid.syed at treatmentactiongroup.org>
Date: Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Subject: [Tbhiv] Winners of the 2009 Kochon Prize announced
To: internationaltreatmentpreparedness at yahoogroups.com, tbhiv at critpath.org



 Ms Lucy Chesire and Professor Stewart Cole will share this year's Kochon
prize, which is awarded annually to persons, institutions or organizations
that have made a highly significant contribution to combating tuberculosis
(TB), a disease that still causes more than nine million illnesses and 1.7
million deaths each year. The selections were announced at the opening
ceremony of the World Conference of the International Union Against
Tuberculosis and Lung
Disease<http://www.worldlunghealth.org/Conf2009/website/>,
held in Cancun, Mexico, today.



Ms Chesire is a leading international advocate who has played a critical
role in spurring awareness worldwide of the dangers of TB/HIV co-infection.
A nutritionist by profession, she learned she was HIV-positive in 1992 and
was the first female health professional in Kenya to publicly acknowledge
her status. In 2000 she was diagnosed with TB, which resulted in several
surgeries and a seven-month hospital stay.  She has transformed the
experience of surviving TB into a passionate commitment to help achieve TB
prevention and treatment for all people living with HIV, no matter who they
are or where they live. She served as the first patient representative on
the Stop TB Partnership Coordinating Board; and has worked closely with
RESULTS <http://www.results-uk.org/about.php> as an adviser and spokesperson
on a number of key advocacy initiatives in Canada, Japan, the United Kingdom
and the United States.



Professor Cole, Director of the Global Health Institute at the *Ecole
Polytechnique F?d?rale de Lausanne <http://www.results-uk.org/about.php>* in
Switzerland, is responsible for groundbreaking research on* Mycobacterium
tubercul*osis, the microorganism that causes TB*.*  In 1998 Dr Cole directed
a team that determined the complete genetic sequence of *M tuberculosis -- *a
piece of work that has been fundamental for the development of new drugs,
diagnostics and vaccines*.* He also has done pioneering work on the
evolution of *M tuberculosi*s*,* the mechanisms through which it causes
disease and how it becomes resistant to drugs. His team is currently leading
an international project to discover new drugs to treat TB. He is the former
Scientific Director of the Institute Pasteur and* **Chevalier dans l?Ordre
de la L?gion d?Honneur* (Services to Science).



The winners will each receive the Kochon Medal and will divide the prize
money, an award of  US$ 65 000. There were also two award
recipients<http://www.stoptb.org/bi/kochon/awardees2008.asp>last year:
Dr Jaime Bayona of Socios en Salud in Peru and Professor Emeritus
Denis Mitchison, formerly of the Royal Postgraduate Medical School in
Hammersmith (now Imperial College), United Kingdom.



Link to the Note to the
Media<http://www.stoptb.org/news/assets/documents/kochonnote2009.pdf>







-- 
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TB/HIV Project Director
Treatment Action Group
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From youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 16:10:34 2009
From: youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com (Moderator YP_Ke)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:10:34 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Top 40 YPs
Message-ID: <82dec6650912071310p4659c0f0v7c1c9821b4aa288b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ladies and Gentlemen.



As we end the year, it?s good we take stock.



LYP team, just like any self ? directed team, has been evolving through the
kawaida stages of team development. From

Forming >> Storming >> Norming >> Performing.



   1. *Forming*. A collection of YPs came together to form LYP. The ice is
   being carefully broken, we are introducing ourselves and we are generally
   quite, polite and everyone is getting the measure of the others, sort of
   sizing them up.



   1. *Storming*: Then conflicts started to emerge as people display their
   attitudes and set boundaries. This is an inevitable phase as we get to know
   each others in the team and find our own identity.



   1. *Norming*: norms are developed as members understand each others
   strength, weakness and patterns of behaviors. The group now starts to
   function as a team and we start accomplishing a few tasks, albeit slowly.



   1. *Performing*.  The team starts to function and perform. This is
   largely due to year long accumulation of trust, respect for each other, and
   understanding & combined with a common sense of purpose & some successes.



As we end the year, which coincides to our one year of existence as a club,
I think we have  evolved through the first 3 stages of group dynamics, and
only last month or so we entered into our the forth stage, *performing*.
This signifies good things for the coming year 2010, as the team *then
starts excelling & performing and its very best*. Joined by common purpose
and bonded by friendship, I do believe it?s one of the very few team in
Kenya well position with right mindset, toolset & skillset to make the real
change we really need in our society.

* *

We have held a total of 19 events this year (13 networking sessions, 5
social events and 1 community service project). Below are the most active
team members.



*Fname*

*Mname*

*Lname*

*Profession*

*Attendance*

* *

* *

* *

* *

* Index*

   1. FaustoFrancis

 Mwangi

Chege

Software Programmer

19

   1. Truphena

 Awour

Otinyo

Personal Assistant

18

   1. Daniel

 Nyutu



Strategy Analyst

17

   1. Gideon

 Njoroge

Maingi

Economist

17

   1. Winney

 Nabwire



Accounts Executive

15

   1. Kelvin

 Jayanoris



Accountant

15

   1. Christopher

 Kariaku



Food Technologist

15

   1. Mathews

 Ogutu



Information Technology

14

   1. Pauline

 Nyandiko



Accountant

13

   1. Franklyne

 Terewa



Banker

11

   1. Evelyne

 Gitimu



Public Relation Practioner

10

   1. Josiah

 Onsembe



Banker

8

   1. Boniface

 Mbuki



Information Technology

7

   1. Josephine

 Kamanthe



Telecommunication Engineer

7

   1. Judy

 Kaiguire



PR Officer

7

   1. Josiah

 Wachira



Insurer

7

   1. Wanjiru

 Kinyua



Accountant

6

   1. Washington

 Odhiambo



Information Technology

6

   1. Edwin

 C.

Cherop

Monitoring and Evaluation

5

   1. Andrew

 Mutua



Information Technology

5

   1. Eunice

 Wanjiru



Laboratory Systems

5

   1. Evans

 Gichia



Accountant

4

   1. Sam

 Karanja



Quality Assurance

4

   1. Elizabeth

 Wachania



Marketer

4

   1. Isaiah

 Githinji



Banker

4

   1. Catherine

 Akhwala

Wekesa

Human Resource

3

   1. Saitoti

 Meitamei



Knowledge Based Products

3

   1. Muriithi

 Magiri



Information Technology

3

   1. James

 Gathuita



Procurements & Logistics

3

   1. David

 Makori



Engineer

3

   1. Anthony

 Gichimu



Sales Executive

2

   1. Martin

 Thairu



Accountant

2

   1. Julius

 Nyutu



Food Technologist

2

   1. Stephen

 Kiragu



Banker

2

   1. Betty

 Kemunto



Information Technology

2

   1. Denis

 Tana



Businessman

2

   1. Sally

 Kuria



Student

2

   1. Grace

 Kagwe



Administrator

2

   1. Rose

 W

Gichane

Administrator

2

   1. John

 Kaigua

Kimotho

Student

2

41. Mercy

Njoki



Office Administrator

2




-- 
Regards
YP_Ke Group Moderator

-- 
TOMMORROW!! LYP MOMBASA 1st Organization Meeting

Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm

Meeting Venue: Koblenz hall, Mombasa Coast Tourism and Hotels Association Offices - Moi Avenue (this has been provided by Millie, member. Tea will also be served courtesy of her).

Agenda: Introduction and the way forward for LYP Mombasa.

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From francis at safarisoftsolutions.com  Mon Dec  7 18:15:36 2009
From: francis at safarisoftsolutions.com (Francis Mwangi Chege)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:15:36 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: MBA Books
In-Reply-To: <ca30a6e70912070223g7365ec12q3e1f8b79bd94fd74@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ca30a6e70912070223g7365ec12q3e1f8b79bd94fd74@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <faf488370912071515x30bdb461o6d508f1fe074a65c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Terry,

Hope you wont mind unsolicited advice :-)

Having also had a lot of interest in the above subjects, and having
scanned through tonnes of literature on the above subject, some of
most key thinkers in the area of motivation are
1.	Abraham Maslow - who is famed for having developed the 'The
hierarchy of needs theory' which he later published in the book The
Motivation & Personality
2.	Fredrick Hertzberg of the ?hygiene-motivation theory? who have
written the books Motivation To Work and Work And The Nature Of Man.
3.	John Adair who wrote Understanding motivation
4.	Douglas McGregor - Of Theory X and Theory Y.
5.	Elton Mayo of Hawthorne Experiments
6.	Victor Vroom of the Expectancy Theory in he later published in the
book Work & Motivation

Their seminar work is very illuminating and after reading them you can
see people in to their bare details, what motivates them to do what
they do, behave the way they do etc.

On the business

Currently I only have 2 books than I feel may be of help, The Concise
Adair on Team Building and Motivation who have explained some of the
above theories in the book and on HR I would recommend
Human.Resource.Management.-.9Ed.pdf

I will try to see if I can get individual materials for all of the
above works, after receipt of a commitment fee :-)

Total cost, just 2K for whole job.


On 12/7/09, Terry Shiundu <terryshiundu at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hallo Francis,
>
> Thank you for the good material and books you keep sending us and your
> consistency too in doing so. I am looking for books on motivation,
> motivation theories, etc. I need them in order to study more on the topic as
> my research paper is in that area. Kindly let me know if you have them and
> how much they will cost? Any books on HR will also be of great help. (MBA
> books)
>
> Thanks.
> Terry
>


-- 
Regards

Francis Mwangi Chege
Java Software Developer
Safari SoftSolutions Ltd.
+254 - 721 663 208

"Solutions to power your business."

-- 
TOMMORROW!! LYP MOMBASA 1st Organization Meeting

Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm

Meeting Venue: Koblenz hall, Mombasa Coast Tourism and Hotels Association Offices - Moi Avenue (this has been provided by Millie, member. Tea will also be served courtesy of her).

Agenda: Introduction and the way forward for LYP Mombasa.

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From francis at safarisoftsolutions.com  Mon Dec  7 19:01:04 2009
From: francis at safarisoftsolutions.com (Francis Mwangi Chege)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:01:04 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Free e-book: Harvard business school - project
	management manual
Message-ID: <faf488370912071601r6d8db00cu3ce57c763cc54cae@mail.gmail.com>

Sambaza to your friends



Find the book attached

Get a set of 4 e-books from the attached list at Ksh. 250.

Get all the 1,000 e-books at Ksh. 3,000

-- 
Regards

Francis Mwangi Chege
Java Software Developer
Safari SoftSolutions Ltd.
+254 - 721 663 208

"Solutions to power your business."

-- 
TOMMORROW!! LYP MOMBASA 1st Organization Meeting

Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm

Meeting Venue: Koblenz hall, Mombasa Coast Tourism and Hotels Association Offices - Moi Avenue (this has been provided by Millie, member. Tea will also be served courtesy of her).

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From youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 02:07:05 2009
From: youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com (Moderator YP_Ke)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:07:05 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] FOR GRABS!!! FOR A SHORT WHILE!!
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From ruth.wambugu at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 02:10:38 2009
From: ruth.wambugu at gmail.com (Ruth Wambugu)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:10:38 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: Salsa Dancing DVD @ Ksh 600
In-Reply-To: <931013.37117.qm@web50704.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <faf488370912061604k5bd6d472jb0c6c2e83224b018@mail.gmail.com>
	<931013.37117.qm@web50704.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <edf5c9e0912072310g7b84ed61of8f56a0386970f57@mail.gmail.com>

Ann,

There's a place called Destiny Dance Studio where they teach salsa lessons.
Its located behind Yaya Centre, Kilimani, Ring Road.  You can reach them on
destinydance at rocketmail.com




On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:39 PM, ann wairimu <awairimu2 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I want to learn dancing with other people. Do you know of any place in
> Nairobi and the charges?
>
> --- On *Sun, 12/6/09, Francis Mwangi Chege <
> francis at safarisoftsolutions.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Francis Mwangi Chege <francis at safarisoftsolutions.com>
> Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: Salsa Dancing DVD @ Ksh 600
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 4:04 PM
>
>
> Want to learn Salsa Dancing?
>
> Learn, step by step by getting this DVD.
>
> @ Just Ksh. 600
>
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From anderson_sawe at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 03:15:59 2009
From: anderson_sawe at yahoo.com (anderson sawe)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 00:15:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION ON WEDNESDAY 9TH AND
	10TH DECEMBER 2009
In-Reply-To: <6a7a0b660912072335o2c103b7bn2cc3200cdb050b73@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <112068.60127.qm@web37605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sorry Boni,in this one we are certainly not together.Matatus have become every Kenyans worst nightmare,thank the almighty for he has heard my prayers and am getting my new car so i can enjoy my xmas hols.Had you guys stopped overpaying struggling Kenyans-tungewa skiza,had you also been courteous in your ways-tungewa skiza.But am sure other like minded Kenyans would never agree with you on this one.Pole mzee
Regards
Nairobian against Nairoberry.


________________________________
From: Boniface Machau <bonimachau at gmail.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 10:35:52 AM
Subject: [YP_Ke] PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION ON WEDNESDAY 9TH AND 10TH DECEMBER  2009

IF YOU GET A COPY OF THIS, PLEASE PASS IT ON TO YOUR MATATU USER FRIEND

Regards
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From kazi360 at kazi360.com  Mon Dec  7 22:51:05 2009
From: kazi360 at kazi360.com (Kazi360 Jobs)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 06:51:05 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Kazi360: [Full-time] Sales Representatives at
	Kennedy
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From rsyokau at lloydmasika.co.ke  Mon Dec  7 23:03:23 2009
From: rsyokau at lloydmasika.co.ke (Rose Syokau)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:03:23 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] INSPIRATIONAL
Message-ID: <20091208040021.D1EC0EBA56@mail.lloydmasika.co.ke>

 
LITTLE THINGS
Little things make a big difference. Little things like yeast. Little things
like kindness. 
Douglas, a fifteen year old boy who lived in Missouri (USA), had been
feeling badly for several days. His mother Donna took him to the emergency
room where blood tests revealed one of the most frightening things a parent
can learn about a child. Her son was diagnosed with leukemia. 
Douglas' life changed. He began a routine of blood transfusions, spinal and
bone marrow tests and chemotherapy. The physical trauma was one thing, but
he also became depressed. And who wouldn't? He lost is former life, his
healthy self. All of those exciting dreams and plans a young boy has for his
future vanished, and in their place all he could see was somebody with
cancer. Somebody who may or may not live long. Somebody whose life would be
very different than before. 
He had a good hospital and good doctors. But it he did not have hope. And
without it, he was in serious jeopardy. 
Douglas' aunt called a florist close to the hospital. She wanted the sales
clerk to be aware of the flower arrangement's significance. 
"I want the planter to be especially attractive. It's for my teenage nephew
who has leukemia," she told the clerk. 
"Oh," said the salesclerk. "Let's add some fresh-cut flowers to brighten it
up." 
When the floral arrangement arrived Douglas opened the envelope and read the
card from his aunt. Then he saw something unusual. It was another card. The
second card read: 
"Dear Douglas, 
I took your order. I work at (this floral shop). 
I had leukemia when I was seven years old. I'm 22 years old now. Good luck.
My heart goes out to you. 
Sincerely, 
Laura." 
Douglas smiled. He finally felt some real hope. And why not? Here was a
person who also had cancer and new she was 22 and working! If she could do
it, so could he. Douglas found what he needed. He found the will to live. 
Little things make a big difference. Little things like kindness and
encouragement and hope. Little things all of us can give. 
And it doesn't take much to make a big difference.
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From dochwangi at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 00:57:33 2009
From: dochwangi at yahoo.com (David ochwangi)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 21:57:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND
In-Reply-To: <COL108-W1284685A7038887EC68BDABB900@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <859549.10120.qm@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well spoken Daktari! Wow, who would have imagined this from you? Certainly not me. Raila is?hi own worst enemy in politics?and I think personally. His antics are fast catching up to him and before long the man won't have any bridge left to cross on; he has burned way too many and accumulated too much baggage for his own good; very unfortunate and self destructive; why, we all wonder except for the fact that some of us recognized this long time ago!

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, barack abonyo <luo31 at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: barack abonyo <luo31 at hotmail.com>
Subject: [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND
To: "youngprofessionals" <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>, "africa-oped at yahoogroups.com" <africa-oped at yahoogroups.com>, "african press" <africanpress at getmail.no>, editor at nation.co.ke, editorial at eastandard.net, "editorafricanexecutive" <editor at africanexecutive.com>, publiceye at publiceyesite.org, publiceyet at aol.com, "jaluo jaluo" <jaluo at jaluo.com>, progressiveminds at yahoogroups.com, "nyciv" <nyciv at googlegroups.com>, "newvision" <newvisionkenya at yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 5:14 PM




Waw what a crowd at Tononoka! As many have said, "Raila is fighting back". However, the real question is, "Raila is fighting who back?". I?am thrilled to answer this question. In brief, Raila is fighting himself. 
?
After working very hard to consolidate a pwerhouse in the ODM,?Raila embarked on a desperate move to dismatle it.?First he disolved the pentagon then declared himself the sole party leader. Things backfired and the pentagon had to be reconstituted. Notwithstanding the damage had been done. Then came the issue of youths rotting in jail after the postelection violence to which Ngilu was almost kicked out softly. Immediately after that?the raging storm was still on, the hague and Ruto followed by Ruto and the maize scandal arrived. Ruto was not blind he saw his friend Raila?was able to rescue him but instead Raila cut off the rope?that Ruto held on to let him?slip and sink into the?rot?which both?Raila?and Ruto created together. A friend in need is a friend indeed. But at the same time, the person who can bring you down faster is your friend. To Ruto, Raila proved to be a betrayer rather than a friend. Raila became a backstabber. Raila chose to
 reallign himself with those who fought?both Ruto and Raila?at the expence of those who shed their blood and lost their lives for him. In this case one cannot blame the son of Samoei for saying enough is enough when he met his tribesmen walking their donkeys toward the roadside where their half naked buttocks was being eaten by the mau cold.
?
Just why Raila concentrated on this may only be known to himslef. "Was?he?fighting the right war or right enemy". In my view, these fights were completely unecessary for Raila. He should have not initiated it. He needed Ruto as much as Ruto needed him. Ruto tried to hang in there but the assault was too much. Respect was already lost and Raila was not consulting Ruto on anything including things in Ruto's Rift Valley tuff.?However Raila still?needed Ruto for 2012 and by Raila constantly fighting Ruto, he was simply shooting himself in the foot. 
?
The reason for this war has not been understood even by Raila closest associates. Many would prefer to keep Ruto in ODM because it makes it easy to fight the real opposition. Just why Raila did this baffles many. Was Ruto a threat to the possibility of?the son of?Jaramogi?being chosen the ODM presidential candidate? I doubt it because in ODM Ruto is no match for Raila. Was Ruto threatening to dislodge Raila's silent dog, Musalia Mudavadi? May be. Was he afraid? Ruto could testify and mention?him at the hague hence Raila wanted to dissociate himself from Ruto early? Possibly. All in all my best gues is that Raila saw a threat in Ruto and chose to kick him out earlier rather than later. It suffices to say that the relationship is over. This is just a rerun between Raila and Wamalwa or Raila and Kalonzo. It is going to be impossible for Raila and Ruto to come back together or if they come together, they will still backstab each other. Like Kalonzo,
 Ruto is going to be the force that blocks Raila from presidency. He has some votes. People should not forget that.
?
Now the fight began, procceded and the dust is settling a little bit. Who won and how? I still contend that Raila lost but Ruto did not?gain what Raila lost. This is why. In 2012, Raila got majority of the votes from Rift Valley. Whatever Raila does and however he twists it, he will not get the same ammount of votes from this region if he does not work it with Ruto. Infact he will get less than 30% of the votes he got last time if Kosgey and Sirma stick with him. The Rift Valley was the swing vote for Raila, if he cannot bag 70% of this vote, it will become near impossible to clinch the presidency irrespective of how many people show up at Tononoka. The winning votes are not at Tononoka, it is in the Rift Valley. The coast, western and Eastern are always didivided. Raila will not be a clear winner of?2012 elections and this is what Ruto was working on after being mistreated and he has successfully done it.
?
The only lousy thing Ruto did was to join CAMPS too fast. The Kalenjins are very weary of another Kikuyu leadership and Ruto should have known that a fight with Raila does not imply a friendship with Uhuru. The Kalenjins do not want to hear the name Kenyatta anywhere close to power hence as soon as Ruto jumped ship, his best bet was to build a new ship without Uhuru at the top.?However, incase Uhuru allow Ruto to be at the top of the ticket, Raila will have a real fight in the Rift Valley, central and Eastern. 
?
For?the Kenyan public these things are working in the right direction for a brand new leadership. It is time for the storm to push the takataka to the sea as Raila himself said?and a complete new leader emerge. Again I say, "It?is time for change"
Dr. Barack Otieno Abonyo?



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From josekamanthe at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 04:26:34 2009
From: josekamanthe at gmail.com (josephine Ndambuki)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:26:34 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] LYP Mombasa Chapter: New developments on the
	first meeting
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*

tic toc, tic,toc, **tic, toc, 8.00am.....12.20pm............3.30pm........
.........5:00pm*
*
*
*hallo to you!*
*Kindly remember that you have a VERY IMPORTANT MEETING today.... the
meeting details are as follows *
*
*

   - Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm
   - *
   *
   - Meeting venue: Koblenz hall, Mombasa Coast Tourism and Hotels
   Association Offices - Moi Avenue( this has been provided by Millie,member.
   Tea will also be served courtesy of her).
   - *
   *
   - Agenda: Introduction and the way forward for LYP Mombasa.

*Looking forward to meeting you all.*
*
*
*Rgds*
*Josephine*
*
*

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Moderator YP_Ke <youngprofessionals.ke@
gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi YPs in Mombasa
>
>
>
> LYP -Nairobi is greatly excited at the prospect of having a sister club in
> Mombasa. The feeling that soon you may be hosting us to Coast for a joint
> fellowship is very good. Having a chapter in Mombasa will not only ensure
> the LYP family grows bigger, but also ensure  the ideals of service,
> sharing and growth which we stand for reach a wider community.
>
>
>
> Organizing a LYP Club is one of the most rewarding & learning opportunity
> you will enjoy thoroughly. The enthusiasm you guys have shown is the only
> prerequisite tool you need to get started. We here in Nairobi would have
> wished a few of us to attend your first organization/information meeting
> tomorrow, but due to the timing that may not be possible.
>
>
>
> We are though quite happy that our LYP - Nairobi club administrator,
> Josephine Kamanthe will be in attendance. She is a very resourceful lady who
> was intimately involved in setting up the basic framework for LYP as an
> organization as well as setting up our Nairobi Chapter. No doubt that she
> will a great resource to you guys people.
>
>
>
> Attached herein is our Standard LYP Constitution, which is an information
> resource you might need to refer as you organize yourself. If you need more
> resources, we shall be more than willing to help.
>
>
>
>
>
> All the best & May our almighty God bless you abundantly,
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Francis Mwangi
>
> YP_Ke Group Moderator.
>
>
> On 12/7/09, josephine Ndambuki <josekamanthe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *hi good people from Mombasa*
>> *
>> *
>> *
>> *
>> *Kindly remember that we agreed to meet tomorrow, Tuesday,8th Dec 2009.
>> Please put this in your calenders. the meeting details are as follows *
>> *
>> *
>>
>>    - Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm
>>    - *
>>    *
>>    - Meeting venue: Koblenz hall, Mombasa Coast Tourism and Hotels
>>    Association Offices - Moi Avenue( this has been provided by Millie,member.
>>    Tea will also be served courtesy of her).
>>    - *
>>    *
>>    - Agenda: Introduction and the way forward for LYP Mombasa.
>>
>> *Looking forward to meeting you all.*
>> *
>> *
>> *Rgds*
>> *Josephine*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: josephine Ndambuki <josekamanthe at gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] LYP Mombasa Chapter: New developments on the first
>> meeting
>> To: "Mutiso, Ndambuki" <Ndambuki.Mutiso at sc.com>, jackiekoi at yahoo.com,
>> osireotieno at gmail.com, eddommiex at yahoo.com, brykarp2000 at yahoo.co.uk,
>> ladyn283 at yahoo.com, ndiritujg at yahoo.com, Peter.Mtana at ke.spedag.com,
>> timothy_mungoma at yahoo.com, cmogere at yahoo.com, jameskinyua80 at gmail.com,
>> mkiyaka at gmail.com, yaris at africaonline.co.ke, davidibuuri at yahoo.com,
>> jessica.kututa at gmail.com, okarajoseph at yahoo.com, wreubens at yahoo.com
>> Cc: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>>
>>
>> Good people,
>>
>> Its wonderful to see that we are all set for Tuesday. Reminders will be
>> sent to all on Monday, and Tuesday morning, although we continue receiving
>> replies which keep our minds in anticipation for the day.
>>
>>
>> Keep the fire burning!!!
>>
>>
>> cheers!
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Mutiso, Ndambuki <Ndambuki.Mutiso at sc.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  I will be there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josphine,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You may consider sending a reminder to guys on 8th in the morning or 7thin the evening.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* onesmus mwilu [mailto:onesie78 at yahoo.com]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2009 7:57 AM
>>> *To:* jackiekoi at yahoo.com; osireotieno at gmail.com; eddommiex at yahoo.com;
>>> brykarp2000 at yahoo.co.uk; ladyn283 at yahoo.com; ndiritujg at yahoo.com;
>>> Peter.Mtana at ke.spedag.com; timothy_mungoma at yahoo.com; cmogere at yahoo.com;
>>> jameskinyua80 at gmail.com; mkiyaka at gmail.com; yaris at africaonline.co.ke;
>>> davidibuuri at yahoo.com; Jackie Mwaga; moreen kin
>>> *Cc:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com; Mutiso, Ndambuki; annah
>>> wafula; Rukia Abdi
>>> *Subject:* Re: [YP_Ke] LYP Mombasa Chapter: New developments on the
>>> first meeting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Josephine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That was nice 12/12/09 was a busy day.Tuesday is better but lets expect
>>> those of us working at Changamwe side to be there at 6.00pm I plan to be
>>> there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Onesmus
>>>
>>> --- On *Thu, 12/3/09, josephine Ndambuki <josekamanthe at gmail.com>*wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: josephine Ndambuki <josekamanthe at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [YP_Ke] LYP Mombasa Chapter: New developments on the first
>>> meeting
>>> To:
>>> Cc: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 10:21 AM
>>>
>>> Hamjambo Ndugu Zangu wa pwani,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Today i had the pleasure to meet/ talk to some of the  LYP group members
>>> in Mombasa, Jacob Boaz, Jackie, Mark and Millie. I was pleased with the
>>> enthusiasm in the team and the excitement at this. Ideas are already flowing
>>> and the good will is evident.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We had members requesting through calls and emails that the event be
>>> moved to some other time for the sake of  giving them time to celebrate the
>>> holiday with their loved ones.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Having thought through this we came up with the following proposition:-
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    - *We reschedule the meeting to Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm*
>>>    -
>>>    - *Meeting venue  be at Koblenz hall, Mombasa Coast Tourism and
>>>    Hotels Association Offices - Moi Avenue( this has been provided by
>>>    Millie,member. Tea will also be served courtesy of her).*
>>>    -
>>>    - *Agenda  remains introduction and the way forward for LYP Mombasa.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We hope this fits into your plans better.Kindly inform us of
>>> your availability;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards
>>> Josephine Kamanthe
>>> Tel: +254 723 736 086
>>>
>>> --
>>> FINALLY!! YOUNG PROFESSIONALS END OF YEAR GALA NIGHT TODAY
>>>
>>> VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel
>>> DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009
>>> TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm
>>> GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs
>>> Minister, Gichugu MP.
>>> TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It
>>> Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
>>>
>>> Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm
>>> Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12
>>> Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15
>>> Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25
>>> Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20
>>> Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25
>>> Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>>
>>>
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>>> call
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>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards
>> Josephine Kamanthe
>> Tel: +254 723 736 086
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Tel: +254 723 736 086
>>
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>
>
>
> --
> Regards
> YP_Ke Group Moderator
>



-- 
Best Regards
Josephine Kamanthe
Tel: +254 723 736 086

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Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm

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From luo31 at hotmail.com  Mon Dec  7 17:14:32 2009
From: luo31 at hotmail.com (barack abonyo)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 22:14:32 +0000
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND
Message-ID: <COL108-W1284685A7038887EC68BDABB900@phx.gbl>


Waw what a crowd at Tononoka! As many have said, "Raila is fighting back". However, the real question is, "Raila is fighting who back?". I am thrilled to answer this question. In brief, Raila is fighting himself. 

 

After working very hard to consolidate a pwerhouse in the ODM, Raila embarked on a desperate move to dismatle it. First he disolved the pentagon then declared himself the sole party leader. Things backfired and the pentagon had to be reconstituted. Notwithstanding the damage had been done. Then came the issue of youths rotting in jail after the postelection violence to which Ngilu was almost kicked out softly. Immediately after that the raging storm was still on, the hague and Ruto followed by Ruto and the maize scandal arrived. Ruto was not blind he saw his friend Raila was able to rescue him but instead Raila cut off the rope that Ruto held on to let him slip and sink into the rot which both Raila and Ruto created together. A friend in need is a friend indeed. But at the same time, the person who can bring you down faster is your friend. To Ruto, Raila proved to be a betrayer rather than a friend. Raila became a backstabber. Raila chose to reallign himself with those who fought both Ruto and Raila at the expence of those who shed their blood and lost their lives for him. In this case one cannot blame the son of Samoei for saying enough is enough when he met his tribesmen walking their donkeys toward the roadside where their half naked buttocks was being eaten by the mau cold.

 

Just why Raila concentrated on this may only be known to himslef. "Was he fighting the right war or right enemy". In my view, these fights were completely unecessary for Raila. He should have not initiated it. He needed Ruto as much as Ruto needed him. Ruto tried to hang in there but the assault was too much. Respect was already lost and Raila was not consulting Ruto on anything including things in Ruto's Rift Valley tuff. However Raila still needed Ruto for 2012 and by Raila constantly fighting Ruto, he was simply shooting himself in the foot. 

 

The reason for this war has not been understood even by Raila closest associates. Many would prefer to keep Ruto in ODM because it makes it easy to fight the real opposition. Just why Raila did this baffles many. Was Ruto a threat to the possibility of the son of Jaramogi being chosen the ODM presidential candidate? I doubt it because in ODM Ruto is no match for Raila. Was Ruto threatening to dislodge Raila's silent dog, Musalia Mudavadi? May be. Was he afraid  Ruto could testify and mention him at the hague hence Raila wanted to dissociate himself from Ruto early? Possibly. All in all my best gues is that Raila saw a threat in Ruto and chose to kick him out earlier rather than later. It suffices to say that the relationship is over. This is just a rerun between Raila and Wamalwa or Raila and Kalonzo. It is going to be impossible for Raila and Ruto to come back together or if they come together, they will still backstab each other. Like Kalonzo, Ruto is going to be the force that blocks Raila from presidency. He has some votes. People should not forget that.

 

Now the fight began, procceded and the dust is settling a little bit. Who won and how? I still contend that Raila lost but Ruto did not gain what Raila lost. This is why. In 2012, Raila got majority of the votes from Rift Valley. Whatever Raila does and however he twists it, he will not get the same ammount of votes from this region if he does not work it with Ruto. Infact he will get less than 30% of the votes he got last time if Kosgey and Sirma stick with him. The Rift Valley was the swing vote for Raila, if he cannot bag 70% of this vote, it will become near impossible to clinch the presidency irrespective of how many people show up at Tononoka. The winning votes are not at Tononoka, it is in the Rift Valley. The coast, western and Eastern are always didivided. Raila will not be a clear winner of 2012 elections and this is what Ruto was working on after being mistreated and he has successfully done it.

 

The only lousy thing Ruto did was to join CAMPS too fast. The Kalenjins are very weary of another Kikuyu leadership and Ruto should have known that a fight with Raila does not imply a friendship with Uhuru. The Kalenjins do not want to hear the name Kenyatta anywhere close to power hence as soon as Ruto jumped ship, his best bet was to build a new ship without Uhuru at the top. However, incase Uhuru allow Ruto to be at the top of the ticket, Raila will have a real fight in the Rift Valley, central and Eastern. 

 

For the Kenyan public these things are working in the right direction for a brand new leadership. It is time for the storm to push the takataka to the sea as Raila himself said and a complete new leader emerge. Again I say, "It is time for change"

Dr. Barack Otieno Abonyo 
 		 	   		  
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From amenya.gibson at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 03:27:50 2009
From: amenya.gibson at gmail.com (amenya gibson)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:27:50 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Greetings from Copenhagen Climate Change On going
	Meeting
Message-ID: <54e76b740912080027l22379241xb2119a0e55d6bb9d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All
 After a long day of bearing finding and plenary sessions I can firmly
begin to say that we are ready for the great task ahead.

The best part of today was to find out that the groups G-77 + China
have been presenting a united front in even all their smaller
constituent groups considering that they have been facing strong force
by the developed nations groups to try and break them up with their
insistent calls for support to LDC's and their insistence on having
developing countries to contribute to the new climate financing and
for them to set up emission targets and commitments under the new
commitment period.

We shall be tracking the developments and join other youth groups in
calling for a more just framework.
--
Mr Stephen Mwakesi
Vice Chairperson, Kenya Young Greens
Convener, Organising Committee: National Youth Conference on Climate Change 2009
Cell: +254 723 229 117 / +254 773 80 40 41
Tel:  +254 (20) 3750329/3744427
Fax: +254 (20) 3749132
www.kenyayounggreens.org

This is forwarded by
Gibson Amenya
Member of Kenya Young Greens

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Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm

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From catekarume2 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 05:59:37 2009
From: catekarume2 at yahoo.com (Cate Karume)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 02:59:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Mombasa Hotels
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Try us?? Darajani hotel
Our email is info at darajanihotel.com?




________________________________
From: jekambi <jekambi at daystar.al c.ke>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 10:33:58 AM
Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] Mombasa Hotels


There are no honey(s) there.
?
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________________________________

From:Jerry Papa [mailto:jerryapa at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:52 PM
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Subject: [YP_Ke] Mombasa Hotels
?
Hallo,
am planning for honey moon between 21-27 december in mombasa which hotel can i get for better deals.
Thanks
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?
VENUE: Marble Arch Hotel 
DATE: Thursday 3rd December 2009 
TIME: 6:00pm ? 8:00pm 
GUEST SPEAKER: Hon Martha Karua, Former Justice & Constitutional Affairs Minister, Gichugu MP. 
TOPIC: The Draft Constitution & The Role Of YPs To Ensure Kenyans Get It Right This Time Round. She Will Also Talk On the Mau Politics.
?
Registration of Attendants ? 6:00pm ? 6:10pm 
Meeting Call to Order - 6:10 ? 6:12 
Prayers: 6:12 ? 6:15 
Introductions of Attendants: 6:15 ? 6: 25 
Talk ? The Draft Constitution : 6:35 ? 7:20 
Vote Of Thanks: 7:20 ? 7:25 
Fellowship/Networking Session & Tea Break: 7:30 onwards >>>> 
?
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From gachanjajamu at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 07:57:11 2009
From: gachanjajamu at yahoo.com (james murithi)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 04:57:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] ONLINE MARKETING ONCE MORE
Message-ID: <692565.92370.qm@web35806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If you are still interested in the marketing online program. please register using the following link.
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Meeting Venue: Koblenz hall, Mombasa Coast Tourism and Hotels Association Offices - Moi Avenue (this has been provided by Millie, member. Tea will also be served courtesy of her).

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From gesmatt at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 07:57:36 2009
From: gesmatt at gmail.com (MATUNDURA GESORA)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:57:36 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] POST ELECTION VIOLENCE PICTURES AT THE HILTON.
In-Reply-To: <c5195aae-1fca-4729-9d65-410c943f7c27@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>
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i have seen them too.they are worth millions of words. as for me,well am
bila words. its chilling to think that the murderers and psychos who did
that are still among us n waiting to resurface when the opportune time
comes.check'em out at the hilton.
regards.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Brooklyn <neemoh21 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> YP MEMBERS,
>
> Seriously you are doing yourself injustice if u have not been at the
> Picha Mitaani pictorial outside Hilton. Why are we pretending that
> everythin is okay 2 yrs after the post election violence? We didn't
> see or feel a thing i tell u. You better check those photos out and
> take a hard look deep within ourselves. Surely is this the Kenya we
> want?
>
> Boniface Mwangi, May God bless u for your courage and bravery. Forever
> Journalism. Forever!!!!!
>
> Kindly share your sentiments in relation to those photos.
>
> It's time we began the long, hard and painful journey towards healing
> as Kenyans. I love my country too much to see a repeat of this
> evilness all in the name of elections and politics. I love my
> motherland too much to see our children suffer all this torture, fear
> and abandonment that some few individuals have caused them. My vote
> led to the loss of a lives in the most inhuman way. I am angry at
> myself as a voter and frankly i don't have faith in my voting card
> anymore. My democratic right went through a rape ordeal. I'm
> traumatized and GOD knows i am not looking forward to 2012.  Let me
> vent my dear members. Let me vent!!!!!!
>
> It's painful. This is too much. Something must be done and quick.
>
> Brooklyn.
>
> --
> TODAY!! LYP MOMBASA 1st Organization Meeting
>
> Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm
>
> Meeting Venue: Koblenz hall, Mombasa Coast Tourism and Hotels Association
> Offices - Moi Avenue (this has been provided by Millie, member. Tea will
> also be served courtesy of her).
>
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>
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-- 
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From omtatah at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 08:26:48 2009
From: omtatah at yahoo.com (Okiya Omtatah Okoiti)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 05:26:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] pray for my family
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Dear John,

Peace be upon you and family. May God give you the strength to cope with the tragic loss. And may flights of Angels lead her to Abraham's bosom.

God bless.

Omtatah




________________________________
From: nicholas okello <okellon2002 at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 5:31:21 AM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] pray for my family


John,
 
Pole sana. You will be in our prayers and may the Almighty give you strength during this tough period. May she RIP

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Nirish Shah <nirish at chigwell.co.ke> wrote:


>From: Nirish Shah <nirish at chigwell.co.ke>
>Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] pray for my family
>To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 6:10 AM
>
>
> >
>Dear John,
> 
>Heartfelt condolences on your sad & tragic loss. May god give you & your family strength at this trying time. Surely, our prayers are for you and the departed girl. The only consolation that we have is that Heavens must have a stronger need for this young girl.
> 
>Take care, The Lord is there to take your pain.
> 
>Nirish
>----- Original Message ----- 
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>>To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com 
>>Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:05 AM
>>Subject: [YP_Ke] pray for my family
>>
>>
>>Hi good people, pls pray for my family at these trying times following demise of my daughter.
>>
>>Regards
>>John Kuria, Nairobi
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>TOMMORROW!! LYP MOMBASA 1st Organization Meeting
> 
>Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm
> 
>Meeting Venue: Koblenz hall, Mombasa Coast Tourism and Hotels Association Offices - Moi Avenue (this has been provided by Millie, member. Tea will also be served courtesy of her).
> 
>Agenda: Introduction and the way forward for LYP Mombasa.
> 
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> 
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TOMMORROW!! LYP MOMBASA 1st Organization Meeting
 
Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm
 
Meeting Venue: Koblenz hall, Mombasa Coast Tourism and Hotels Association Offices - Moi Avenue (this has been provided by Millie, member. Tea will also be served courtesy of her).
 
Agenda: Introduction and the way forward for LYP Mombasa.
 
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From carolineruto at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 08:37:45 2009
From: carolineruto at yahoo.com (CAROLYNE RUTO)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 05:37:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] invitation to a tree planting in Western Mau
Message-ID: <858015.20168.qm@web52806.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


?
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 8th December 2009
?
?
?
RE: Invitation to a Tree Planting in Western Mau on the 18th December
?
On behalf of Citizens? Assembly I would like to invite you to a Tunza Mau baraza to be held on 18th December 2009 from 9am in Konoin District, Cheptalal Division.
?
This baraza will be held as part of activities under the Tunza Mau project, being jointly run by Citizens? Assembly, Forest Action Network and Maasai Council of Elders. We will follow up on issues raised during stakeholders? forums. In this way, keeping in line with our ultimate goal of community participation in the restoration of the Mau complex. Our specific objectives under the Tunza Mau project are:
?
	* To sensitise people on the need to conserve the environment.
	* To raise awareness on the socio-economic benefits of conserving the environment. 
	* To raise awareness on alternative livelihoods.
	* To preempt and contain conflict over natural resources. 
	* To entrench the relevance of environmental degradation and the necessity of restoration in the community development agenda. 
?
The baraza will be followed by a major tree planting exercise, which is an ongoing Citizens? Assembly activity in partnership with various grassroots organisations and groups. 
?
Western Mauhas suffered through logging and reforestation efforts are necessary for the beginning of restoration. 13,000 seedlings have already been planted by the community in November. They intend to plant 50,000 available seedlings in December. The activity is community managed in line with our organisational objective that citizens should be responsible.
?
The history of Citizens? Assembly goes back to the National Constitutional Conference. Delegates there passed the ?Bomas? draft constitution, but when the constitution appeared to be getting hijacked and the referendum was announced, a number of delegates from the ?Bomas? conference came together to push for the real people-centred constitutional needs of Kenya. Citizens? Assembly is the result of that effort; an initiative that stands for governance and institutional practices that result in real benefits and real development.
Under the Tunza Mau project, we intend to carry on with our focus on what we as a people can do for ourselves in order to bring about the change we require. 
?
We look forward to your attendance.
?
?
Yours faithfully,
?
Caroline Ruto
Coordinator


      

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From cliffnyabs at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 09:59:45 2009
From: cliffnyabs at gmail.com (cliff best)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:59:45 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] ETR MACHINE
In-Reply-To: <23207d9b0912080607t12bbfdb5xbad4871d1a6a1965@mail.gmail.com>
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Dan wats ur budget? call me on 0721315824.i wil definitely be of help.

On 12/8/09, Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com> wrote:
> I need an ETR machine in good working condition urgently not necessarily
> new.
>
> Any good offers here?
>
> --
> Daniel Nyutu
>
> Strategy Consultant
> Strategic Leadership Center International
> Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100
> Nairobi, Kenya.
> Tel: 3872252/ 3877637/ 2067622
> Email: dnyutu at gmail.com
> www.slcinternational.com
> Cell: 0728-200075
>
> "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
> different results"
>
> Albert Einstein (Attributed)
> US (German born) Physicist (1879-1955)
>
> --
> TODAY!! LYP MOMBASA 1st Organization Meeting
>
> Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm
>
> Meeting Venue: Koblenz hall, Mombasa Coast Tourism and Hotels Association
> Offices - Moi Avenue (this has been provided by Millie, member. Tea will
> also be served courtesy of her).
>
> Agenda: Introduction and the way forward for LYP Mombasa.
>
> Confirm attendance by sending an email to josekamanthe at gmail.com
>
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-- 
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From prcanb at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 10:04:58 2009
From: prcanb at yahoo.com (Absalom Birai)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:04:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Wow: A manager hands over $ 10,000.00!
Message-ID: <70825.98318.qm@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

We first heard it from out parents. I am sure that you do recall your parents warning you not to take away anything that does not belong to you. Since then,it has been repeated over and over again. But there is every reason to believe that some of us have yet to get it.But then all is not lost. From time to time,you hear/read stories of individuals who have proved to be honest no matter what.

On the radio this morning,I heard a story of a manager in a K-Mart store who did something that surprised some. In his store,there was a mysterious paint can that had been sitting there for the last four days. On opening it,he would not believe the contents-over $ 10,000.00 was in that can. Bad as the economy has turned out to be,he did that which he was taught while young-he handed over the money to the police! Oh,how I love that!

If you were the one,what would you have done with that cash? Let us learn to respect or leave alone anything that does not belong to us. Shall we?

Pr Birai
612-386-4608





      

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From kipjsang at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 11:45:35 2009
From: kipjsang at yahoo.com (sang kip)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:45:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: SHOULD RAILA BE VERY WORRIED?
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Lordvick:
I like your analysis but I am sorry to tell you it is built on "ifs". You say Raila has Sally and Bett but?should have fast of all known?two critical facts about the two and others like Kosgey before concluding that they will deliver for Raila. Bett is on his way out. He and Kosgey?are among major grabbers Raila?should be fighting.The former won Bureti because he used huge sum of money at a time when ODM was riding high. He never won the seat but the party won. If Raila is banking on Bett let him know that the man has no chance come 2012. Sally on the other hand was Moi's right hand lady until few months before 2007 elections.Like Bett she is self centered, selfish and a beneficiary of 2007 euphoria.?
Kosgey is anti-Kipsigis which is?the largest (1/2 of Kalenjin), Tugen, Keiyo, Markwet,Sabaot, Pokot and Ogiek.Facts known to pundits show all other subtribes of Kalenjin are pro-Ruto except a few Nandi who dine and wine with Kosgey.Of all the Kalenjin, Kipsigis is the largest.they are found all over Kalenjinland and Maasailand. They are closely related to Ogiek who were evicted from Mau .Fact: you lose Kipsigis vote, you lose Kalenjin vote.
At the moment?things have changed.People attend PM's meetings but they know where they stand.Hear it from me, "Raila has no?much votes in kalenjinland now but one hot button issue that can change that is how he is going to handle Mau evictees"On the other hand regardless of how much Ruto is vilified, three quarters of Kalenjin see him as a hero fighting for their rights.Call him what you want to call him, RVP has never produced a politician who ever challenged Moi and lived to tell it.I don't belong to Ruto's corner but one fact makes me admire him- his ability to stand for Kalenjin rights.
Evictions in Maasai Mau will soon take place.Most of the evictees will be soldiers who legally bought land from Maasai.The latter were allocated the land as from 1978 when kenyatta was president and Jackson Harvester Angaine was Minister for Lands and Settlement.At the time, Ole Ntimama was chairman of County Council of Narok which approved the allocations.Now one fact is that most of the evictees from Maasai Mau will be well connected Maasai politicians and families. Chief Ntutu has 10,000 cares, chief Kurieta has about 10,000 acres, late Ole Tipis, Ole Ntimama, Ole Lankas, Ole Tuiya, etc, will be evicted.Ole Ntimama thought evictions would target only kalenjin who bought land from the Maasai and that is why he supported eviction.Let's wait and see how he's going to react to Maasai eviction.Who do you think Maasai will blame?Is it Ntimama or Raila? What are Raila's changes after eviction of Maasai from their ranches?
?
Your analysis?is based on newspapers written by couch journalists in Nairobi.facts on ground show a big shift in RVP towards PNU.I laughed when I read The Standard where some professors said Raila still has grassroot support among the ordinary people even in Chepalungu.That is deception deduced from huge attendance of Raila's rally at Siongiroi. I also laugh loud when I hear journalsits say the wananchi love Raila more than their MPs. What I know is that it will take a miracle for Raila to win RVP in 2012 if things will remain as they are now.
?
Since Moi's departure the politics of RVP is no longer centered on politicians but elders who wield immense powers and respect more than politicians. Kalenjin Council of Elders include Lt Gen Cheruiyot (Nandi), Lt Gen Koech (Kipsigis). Lt Gen Sumbeiywo (Keiyo), Gen Tonje (Tugen), Maj Seii?who is the cairman comes from keiyo and politicians, businessmen and former?seasoned civil servants.Things are not just Tononoka rally and journalists' anlysis.It is actuality!
?
I love to read speculation on this forum but the fact is that Raila is losing RVP by the hour.?Even befeore?Mau saga voters were beginning to see him as being rather arrogant, self-righteous and all- knowing.A man who cannot not be adviced. Raila deceives himself that he is so popular in the region that he needs no one to advice him except Kosgey and Sirma.In fact Sirma and Kosgey have made Raila lose RVP faster and Ruto knows?? and that's why he is capitalizing on it.When they said in Tononoka that ODM is alive and well in the pronvince they lied the way sycophants lied to Moi about people's demand for multiparty politics.The court poets then led Moi to believe all was well just the way Sirma and Kosgey are doing now to Raila.
let's discuss?facts and not newspaper myths!
?
?
?
?
??



________________________________
From: Lordvick Otieno <lordvickp at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 5:33:55 AM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: SHOULD RAILA BE VERY WORRIED?

This is a very good analysis. 
you?must not overly be?scared about this losing?of block votes as several factors in?play can prove wrong the facts of invisibility of some?big block votes. We saw Moi win in 1997 elections despite the might of Kikuyu block vote wholesally going to Kibaki. We likewise saw in 2002, the almost to a man block vote of Kalenjins going to Uhuru but he hugely and miserably lost to Kibaki.

Other issues?includes generational changes with new?paradimes in thinking?especially among the first time youthfull voters and many younger voters whoe' views?on?new keys national that elicite debates of high national proportions are also key factors that influence them
.
Over reliance on?block votes based on ethnic beliefs?at the chagrin of disregarding more key outstanding issues has of late proven to be the undoing of some political kingpins like Nyachae and Kombo, who thought they could block Raila, from getting votes some regions?by being preoccupied and overpossesed with the?issue of circumcision or cultural?values that do not conform?with their tribesmen.??

Other factors are perfect timing comes in political moves. Raila timed his implotion in Kanu perfectly well as by the time he led a big rebellion against Moi, with two months prior to elections, the later had no time and strategy or fall back plan?to regroup.
Similarly Kalonzo's last minute decamping from Raila did a severe damage to?due to his timing.

What helps Raila too well is the serious issues of?irredimable conflicts?Ruto's people and Uhuru's?crowd have to grind prior to their alliances. It's evident the two lack the?capacity to pull their troops as a block. There is also the issue of their Presidential ambitions as who?will get the ribs, the whole legs and the arms when the hunted?animal has to be divided. This may lead to serious fallout later where key jilted lover may end crossing to Odinga.
All must not?play second fiddle?unlike Raila who's almost sure of carrying the ODM mantle.
This means Raila can effectively balance a slot to march?against Ruto, Uhuru or Kalonzo, as ODM has abundance of Sally, Bett,Ngilu, and options of Karua, Kenneth and Saitoti if they?choose to play in the same team..???????


----- Original Message ----
From: Breigner <peter.osotsi at gmail.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 4:29:45 PM
Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: SHOULD RAILA BE VERY WORRIED?

Daniel;

Usione simba amenyeshewa udhani ni paka. As a friend let me be candid.
Raila, since the days of yore, has been always like that proverbial
phoenix, rising from the ashes after every misfortune.

Remember even Moi tried to kill him while he was disguised as a woman
while running to Uganda. He is a man who is at his prime in terms of
reading real politics of the day.

William Samoei Ruto can go sing as loud as a parrot, he can climb the
tallest tree in the forest and behave like a giraffe, he can sing
loudest like jungle people calling out each other. In fact he can do
all he wants. Fact is, Ruto has no numbers to back him. A little fact:

Rift Valley is not exclusive to Kalenjins alone. Ruto's Eldoret North
is part of a cosmopolitan city the size of Eastlands, called Eldoret.
Having lived there and heard from him, the people there will forgive
him less for the atrocities "his" people meted on other tribes. In
fact, Ruto might never see the inside of parliament again. He has very
serious untainted young Kalenjin competitors and they are just waiting
for Raila to prop them up at 64 stadium for all and sundry to
appreciate.

Kalenjins only occupy Central and part of North Rift. Thats a very
small part with about 500,000 voters. Real Kalenjins don't even listen
to the joker Moi, the man who brought so much suffering and hatred
among the Kalenjin. He made the people of Baringo wallow in poverty,
he mistreated the Nandi and the Kipsigis, look at Koibatek, his people
are still eating cactus fruit year in year out yet he served as their
faithful MP and president for more than 45 years. Moi's ilk invaded
the Mau and drove the people who lived in the fringes deep inside the
forest. And you think they don't know.

The Maasai and their variants would never listen to Ruto. Let me see
who else lives in the Rift, eeeer, the Turkana, Somalis, the Rendille,
Kikuyu's, etc. The Luhya's occupy most of the north of North Rift. So
who is Ruto fooling? Even Kalenjins are not with him on this.

What is Balala up to? Ali Hassan Joho and his people have already
finished him, in fact he dug his own grave and is busy putting the
soil on top. Wait until he stops breathing. He's in a self destruct
mode. No one can stop his death now, he's finished himself, can't stop
laughing ha ha ha.

I am in Western, the land of amakulukulu, the beautiful land of many
warm hills. The land of a thousand hills. We have intermarried with
Kalenjins for years, and will be friends (though I understand things
are a little bad at the moment because Ruto is 3rd from Mudavadi, I
mean, you can't please everyone at the same time. But we will prevail,
friendships last longer than politics. Politicians come and go,
marriages last. And my Kalenjin friends aren't skinning me coz of
Ruto, so I see everything is fine).

In Cherengany, we have another cosmopolitan area with very many
credible competitors in the thickets waiting to bite Kutuny. I can't
stop laughing whenever I hear Kutuny mumble himself hoarse. He's a
real character. If he knew whats awaiting him at "home", he would be
better off keeping quiet. Perhaps no one would know he exists.
Cherengany hills are now bare and that's angering his constituents.
The constituency is getting warmer and warmer by the day because the
rocks are now exposed to the sun and is causing micro climate change
in the entire region. The once fertile land is now leeched by the
torrential rains causing the virgin land go virgin in terms of crop
production. The place is now as hot as Mwingi north, the home of
Kaloser. That's enough to make him keep his loud mouth shut, he's in
for real shock. If he ever makes it back, and I pray he tries to make
his way again, I better not predict.

As for the rest, its coming back to them who their true friends are.
Stick with the history makers and be in the winning team. Those people
that are talking Mau loudest know Hague is beckoning and can't sleep.
They have nothing else to keep them worried better than Hague. Forget
IDP's or evictees. These men are in constant panic and anything they
hold their hands on, they hold tight. It might be the last salvation.
As the PM said, "hio taka taka inaenda kutupwa ocean" - read
Mediterranean Sea while to the Hague. Now the man they are firghting
can't speak in good light to save them. What a sad tale! They make
Raila and Kibaki's work easier by pooling in the same direction.

As for Moi, he is seeing his last scion cut in pieces by the man who
blasted the cockerel. He's alive to see for himself how modern
politicians mutate and self destruct! The old Kanu, the people who
brought Kenya to its knees, are now in one bin ready to be tossed into
the sea. And with it, the dream of 100 years of Kanu rule. Hao na
Mutahi Ngunyi, bure kabisa.

To cap, Raila has no reason to fear anything. The enemy is self
destructing under his very watch. He needn't be worried since all
Kenyans remember what Jirongo, Ruto and so on did to take us where we
are. We all know how "Jirongo's" almost brought Kenya to its knees. We
all know how Jirongo and Ruto the YK92 machine almost killed Kenya.
Its time they steped aside so that the ghost of misrule that has
brought us where we are is buried.

Well done Raila Amolo Odinga, may God add you a thousand more years.
You stand with Kenyans whenever we need you to.

Kenfish PO
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
{Im not an ODM | Raila Activist and im not affiliated with any
political party}
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

On Dec 7, 2:53?pm, Faiza Hassan <antiho... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Kenyans are not for tribal alliances. Let us wait for new constitution
> then we shall see how this alliance will be.
>
> On 12/7/09, Dan Nyutu <deny... at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > YPs,
>
> > Recent developments in the political arena have been about two
> > fellows, the PM and Ruto, previously close allies.
>
> > Ruto marshalled 56 MPs including ten ministers in a few days to his
> > MAU harambee. Going by Kenya's election traditions where tribal kings
> > dictate how the followers vote, his Rift valley block votes may not go
> > to Raila again. Thus for Raila to win an election, he need a similar
> > block of votes to replace that block.
>
> > I doubt he can get a replacement block from Eastern or Central (being
> > the other blocks that did not vote him in) since their Chiefs, read
> > Uhuru and Kalonzo, are in alliance with Ruto. Without these three
> > blocks of Rift valley, Eastern, Central (and probably Nairobi since
> > the three blocks residents would make a majority here) he can as well
> > forget a majority win.
>
> > I tend to agree with Mutahi Ngunyi's latest assessment that all forces
> > that Raila has trampled on, are now on his neck. This would include
> > the president, Ruto, Uhuru, Kalonzo, Moi, Kanu, PNU etc...
>
> > For now they may appear non-starters against the PM since the issue at
> > hand, the MAU, the population supports the PM. However, the issues
> > will change and such an alliance can be lethal once it gains momentum.
> > The PM needs to stop this alliance taking shape coz if it does, he
> > wont be able to stop it and if they can convince their followers, that
> > can be dangerous to his political survival.
>
> > Way out for PM? I cant really see how. He should be really worried.
> > Isnt it sad that politicians can work all their lives to improve
> > living standards of their people only to be wiped out once they fall
> > out with the big guys. Isnt it sad that Raila is working hard to
> > restore the MAU for future generations but the trouble he has got
> > into, may mess his hard fought ambitions? Can our politics ever be
> > issue based?
>
> > If it wont be PM at the helm, i expect a miracle President to come and
> > save us coz i cant figure out how the KKK alliance can do any good for
> > the country now that they may dislodge our man.
>
> > --
> > Daniel Nyutu
>
> > Strategy Consultant
> > Strategic Leadership Center International
> > Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100
> > Nairobi, Kenya.
> > Tel: 3872252/ 3877637/ 2067622
> > Email: dny... at gmail.com
> > Cell: 0728-200075
>
> > "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
> > different results"
>
> > Albert Einstein (Attributed)
> > US (German born) Physicist (1879-1955)
>
> > --
> > TOMMORROW!! LYP MOMBASA 1st Organization Meeting
>
> > Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm
>
> > Meeting Venue: Koblenz hall, Mombasa Coast Tourism and Hotels Association
> > Offices - Moi Avenue (this has been provided by Millie, member. Tea will
> > also be served courtesy of her).
>
> > Agenda: Introduction and the way forward for LYP Mombasa.
>
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From bmbuki at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 12:06:59 2009
From: bmbuki at yahoo.com (Boniface Mbuki)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:06:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION ON WEDNESDAY 9TH AND
	10TH DECEMBER 2009
In-Reply-To: <d8d715b0912080429n4fd999b4w6139b05a0fed466c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <51709.65507.qm@web55206.mail.re4.yahoo.com>


Haiya!!!
Kenyans are talking. I am not a matatu Operator but a road user liek any other Kenyan. I am grateful that tomorrow's strike is of essence. But a few observations and concerns in here are excellent.

1. Uhuru park is not a parking bay neither is it a bus stage. What the hell are the dudes going to do there. Tena Its just a corner zone for wenye Inchi. 

For sure Itere (Commissioner) is no diffrerent from Ali. Troops are now rehearsing for kesho. Ugali yaleo itaongezewa saucer. Mtawapata huko. Itakuwa no gone zone. where else will you take your demonstration???? Kuweni serious

2. What is Kenya and who are you as a kenyan? U mean you dont follow news. what is the need of so many madukas for Radio and Tvs on Luthuli Avenue. Hamsikii news. I know the organisers dont have room for home time and utilities. The Household goods ni za wamama na watoto na mabotch. What is the need of you even buying a Gazeti.Every morning u get a copy of the newspaper in your car and office. Please do not mislead us. Raila is away for the sake of all not the matatu drivers alone, but kenyans and the globe.

3. Kwani huyu Minister wa transport na others wako wapi? We shall chase them home. Hawajui wafanyalo ndani ya maofisi. Politicking for 2012. Nani amewaambia ati watakuwa hai.time is coming

4. Its good that kesho morning before 8.00am iko magari. Get onboard and go to work. Jioni watatukujia but at a hiked fare. For those with private cars, please dont be envious and jealous. Give lifts ata kama ni kudai ya petroli. Kenyans are ready to pay. This will make the so called matatus and drivers forget to ask for more. especially kama kesho.
Fares shall be between 100 and 200.Kwani nani ameongezewa mshadi huko job. Kuweni serious.

5. Matatu owners never surfer. Poor kenyans surfer alot. Mwenye shibe na afunike tumbo. Itsa fight of the who has and no twho doesnt. Wewe utaumia tu bure. Wajinga wawili wakubwa ambao wanazo wapiganapo juu ya kuwa nazo, waumiapo ni wajinga wadogo ambao hawana. Be serious Kenyans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fanyeni Kaazi.
Boni.



--- On Tue, 12/8/09, Hargwings Omondi <homondi at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Hargwings Omondi <homondi at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION ON WEDNESDAY 9TH AND 10TH DECEMBER  2009
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 3:29 PM

CHANGE FIRST BEFORE YOU DEMONSTRATE!!!!!! You are demonstrating for what? How many matatus have speed governors nowadays? I race them up Langata Road at 100kph every day! Give us a break.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Boniface Machau <bonimachau at gmail.com> wrote:

IF YOU GET A COPY OF THIS, PLEASE PASS IT ON TO YOUR MATATU USER FRIEND

Regards
Boni





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From jbatec at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 12:48:50 2009
From: jbatec at yahoo.com (Judy Miriga)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:48:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Kenyan police arrest man with 100,000 bullets
Message-ID: <586300.25361.qm@web57310.mail.re1.yahoo.com>


?
?

Kenyan police arrest man with 100,000 bullets 

By TOM ODULA, Associated Press Writer Tom Odula, Associated Press Writer ? Tue?Dec?8, 5:51?am?ET
?

NAIROBI, Kenya ? A senior Kenyan security official says police have arrested a suspected gun smuggler with more than 100,000 bullets and an assortment of weapons and equipment.
?
The official says police are also investigating whether Kenyan government security officials were involved in supplying the bullets and weapons. The official was speaking Tuesday just ahead of a news conference. He spoke on condition of anonymity because the information hadn't yet been made public.
?
Lawyer Cliff Ombeta says the suspect is Munir Ahmed, a Kenyan. Ombeta says Ahmed is his client and is innocent.
?
He says Ahmed owns only four hunting rifles and that police should explain where they got 100,000 bullets, bulletproof vests and pistols.


?
?
Judy Miriga 
Diaspora Spokesperson 
Executive Director 
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc., 
USA 
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com


      

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From jairuschurch at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 15:50:46 2009
From: jairuschurch at yahoo.com (Jagem K'Onyiego)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:50:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Querries on the Bible
In-Reply-To: <899693.91987.qm@web65409.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <152617.9119.qm@web62102.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Bora msianze "Krusedi"
Yes that is one Book that we need to study. Actually when you discover the truth about the Bible, you will feel so relieved, and will want to know more and more. All the information is there. Find out why some Hebrews have taken a few lines in the Bible and chosen to "dwell" on those few lines. For example the Book says when a Hebrew falls in Battle, the Brother of that fallen hero will take his surviving wife, go forth into her, and bear a son. The son shall be named after the fallen hero,?So that the name of the Hebrew man, do not go in vain.
?
Take this and relate it to the present day world, particularly in Kenya. Are there tribes that do this practice of "Wife inheritance"? Do they understand why it must be done? And do they do it in accordance with the law"? In Leviticus, it is written that "During harvest, a certain amount of crops will be left in the field to appease God. Do they do this anymore? or did the people abandon to follow this law altogether?
?
Still in the Book of Leviticus, it is written that while the crop is still on the Fields your God Commands you to "Beat Nyawawa" (many of you may think that this is a mad mans thing, but you see God commanded you to do Nyawawa), so that he can reward you with a bumper Harvest. Do we do it, or do we even know it anymore?
So it can be concluded that we abandoned the Laws, for we failed to Hearken. That is why he made you so weak, never able to defend yourself. So your enemies came from the North and bound you then put you in ships and back into Slavery.
?
>From there he has visited you with plaque after plaque, for you have failed to recognize that he is the Lord your God. And you need to follow the Laws as he spake them. Is this not the reason why there is so much trouble in "The Promised Land". Having almost everything in terms of minerals and natural resources, but The people act like they are "Cursed" not knowing what to do! And for sure it is a Curse till such a time that you will start to follow the Laws as were written in that Book. It is only then, that, God will then lift you up, above all Nations, to be the Rulers of the Earth. That is his promise and it shall come to pass. It is there in the HBB (Holy Bible Book) Otherwords known as HBB (History of the Blacks Book)??
?
K'Onyiego
?
?

--- On Tue, 12/8/09, Bonny Opondo <brotherbonny at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Bonny Opondo <brotherbonny at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Querries on the Bible
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 4:08 AM






we? can? start? with? the? humanity? of? Christ? is? Jesus? man? or? God? ?or? is? He? both ?Based? on? the? Bible? should ?? be? the? contribution ? and? ?not ? based? ?on ? personal? religion? or? illussion. We ? can? ?give ? Mau? ?politics?? and? ?2012?? ? abreak .Can ? you? imagine? ?that ? Europe? ?with? ?all?? that?? wealth? ?can ? not? change ? the? climate? ?to?? suit? the?? world? We?? need?? Jesus? for? the? world? today.He? is? the? Answer? to? our? Problems? Amen!Just? an? insight? the? 21st? century? is? mainly? for? Africa? to? be? in? the? focus Economically,? politically,? Spiritually? and? even? Socially.In? ?such ? aforum? ?we? can? set? the? agenda? not Ruto,Balaa and? Kutuny? every day? Yawa?we? can? make? adifference? in? our? world? and? society? please.

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Querries on the Bible
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 7:19 AM


Robinson, 


I agree.


we can organise one of the meetings to be a Bible study one.


Which topics can we deliberate.


Dan.


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Robinson Manguro <rmanguro at gmail.com> wrote:


Interesting views but what stands out is that we need to understand more about the bible and that it is a holy and inspired book meant for teaching and reproval
?
All these discussiosn tells you that one of the sessiosn of YP should be a bible study,
When and where? Anyone seconds that idea?
?
God bless 



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"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

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From luo31 at hotmail.com  Tue Dec  8 17:36:05 2009
From: luo31 at hotmail.com (barack abonyo)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:36:05 +0000
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] INTERESTING READS FROM KUMEKUCHA ON RAILA RUTO
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Thursday, December 03, 2009

Raila Vs Ruto Political Duel: Raila Fast Digging His Political Grave! 

See also most recent article by Chris: Why Ruto will win the war against Raila
Some of the things Kumekucha is reading: Annonymous comment costs employee his job

By Guest Writer

In the height of post-election violence, William Ruto and Najib Balala were key ODM figures who fought the Raila?s mass action war of ?stolen? presidency like their own personal fight and the TV images of the two fleeing in Nairobi streets from mean-looking GSU officers lobbing tear-gas at them are still fresh in my mind. The two men were ready to die for Raila. Remember Balala even shed tears when he stepped down for Raila during ODM presidential nomination at Kasarani. That?s as far as the marriage of convenience lasted.

The unfolding drama and imminent fall out in ODM was not unexpected but I could not imagine Raila falling out with Ruto and Balala. The fall out best explains how Kenya politics is fluid. Raila largely owes his position and the powers he enjoys to Ruto and Balala. Apart from vigorously campaigning for Raila in the 2007 General Elections, Ruto and Balala took charge of Raila?s mass action call and rallied ODM supporters and their affiliate tribes to civil disobedience to protest Kibaki?s controversial win. The fall out is a big lesson to other politicians and tribes ? never fight another man?s war or kill in their name.

If Raila called for the mass action and only Luos heeded his call, Kenyans wouldn?t have been subjected to PEV or violence would have been minimal and of little consequence. But Ruto?s powerbase, the Rift Valley, was the main battle zone for PEV and the tragic and barbaric events in the province were what put Kenya on the international radar. Without Ruto and Balala and the Rift Valley primitive slaughter, Raila would have reluctantly settled for the humble position of the Official Opposition Leader. But thanks to the blood of innocent Kenyans, Raila landed on the prime post he is now using to flex his muscles against the foot soldiers and lieutenants who killed and uprooted innocent from their homes and businesses in his name.

Ruto and Balala are the equivalent of Martha Karua, who toppled the scale against Raila on the finishing line and ensured Kibaki got a controversial second term. Without Karua, Kibaki would have kissed goodbye to the presidency. The Krieger Report told us neither Kibaki nor Raila could stake a high moral ground and claim they legally won. ODM and PNU fiddled with election results in their strongholds. Kibaki and Raila loyalists can fume with that assertion but that?s the reality. For that, Raila and Kibaki equally share the blame in 2008 PEV.

The seeds of hatred were sowed by Kibaki when he refused to honour a pre-election MoU with Raila when he came to power in 2002. Kibaki added fuel to the fire when he started weeding out key Kalenjins from his new Administration. Kalenjins regarded the presidency to be synonymous to Moi and as if State House was their property. They were bitter loosing power to a Kikuyu. Ruto and Kalenjins would be consigned to the political dustbin were it not for Kibaki?s poor judgment in politics.

After the fall out with Kibaki over dishonoured MoU, Raila?s only option was to team up with Kibaki?s enemies and that?s how Kalenjins and leaders who had looted state coffers or had criminal records (some murderers for their roles in 1992 and 1997 tribal clashes), and killers likes of Ole Ntimama, got a new lifeline. Raila and his new-found allies saw the best way to fight Kibaki was to pour petrol to the fire of hatred, which he had lit with the dishonoured MoU. The birth of ODM after the 2005 referendum was based on pure hatred towards Mt Kenya folks and revenge against Kibaki. Thanks to Kibaki?s failures and fall out with Raila, Moi today looks like a saint despite his many dark evils in his 24-year rule.

ODM big guns and their supporters held divergent personal and political ideologies and their marriage was only for convenience but not driven by desire to bring genuine change and reforms in Kenya. These were strange bedfellows. ODM was meant to replace Kibaki?s eating club with new or re-packaged thieves and looters. But the revenge against Kibaki and by extent his tribe, the Kikuyus, was the temporary glue that brought political conmen, looters, murderers and graft lords together. The glue held up to the 2007 Presidential elections and Kenya went to elections in a charged and polluted environment. The ODM unity of purpose ? to kick out Kibaki from State House ? was what made Raila?s mass action call work. Sooner or later, party time and honeymoon was going to be over for Raila and his ODM.

Unknown to Ruto and Balala, Koffi Annan was pushing for ceasefire and a Grand Coalition Government without revealing his true intentions. He wanted to bring peace but ensure killers were punished. In fact, Raila and ODM were the ones who wanted Annan and the international to intervene claiming they had been robbed of the presidency by Kibaki. Kibaki and his allies were content after retaining the presidency and they didn?t want Annan to come in.

Raila and ODM got an upper hand and Kibaki conceded to share power. The man ODM saw as their saviour had a trick up his sleeve ? unleashing the ICC and Ocampo after the PEV dust settled. Ruto and his ODM thought the PEV issue ended as soon as Kibaki and Raila signed a peace deal. How mistaken they were! To the disbelief of Ruto, Balala and others who suspect their names were in the Waki envelope, Raila backed trial of PEV suspects. This is after Raila had equated the PEV killers to freedom fighters! What a betrayal from the mass action general.

Raila looked at 2007 General Election as the end of the world ? it was a do or die. He forgot he could loose and vie another day. His mass action call gave birth to mass murder and Kikuyus suffered the most. Raila realised the folly of his mass action call and warmed up to Kikuyus and to the larger Mt Kenya people after he invited Kibaki to his Bondo home. He now enjoys a good working relationship with Kibaki.

When relations improved, Kibaki cleverly pushed the explosive Mau eviction issue to Raila and the PM enthusiastically took it up hoping to win an image of a national and international leader. Raila has received a huge sarcastic backing from Mt Kenya folks on the Mau issue ? but that will remain as far as Mau forest is concerned. In public, Mt Kenya folks displaying their ?support? to Raila in regard to Mau, while in private laughing as Raila?s burns the bridges that propelled him to where he is today. Doubt this? Read comments on Daily Nation website everyday and guess who are cheering on Raila.

In evicting Kalenjins from Mau, Raila is stepping on the toes of murders, thieves, looters and land grabbers who had played a key role in his 2007 presidential campaign and what he is today. The current fall out was inevitable. Mt Kenya are arguing Raila is unknowingly revenging on them for what Kalenjins did to their Gema kinsmen in 2008. What a better way to get revenge for Kikuyus killed and uprooted from RV? By using their 2007 hero, Raila!

Those who wish away Kikuyus to play a major role in any election are doomed. Kikuyus have the numbers and they vote to preserve their selfish interests ? to protect their wealth. In this regard, even if a Kikuyu doesn?t vie for the top seat in 2012 to avoid a repeat of the backlash of 2007, the community will play a big role in deciding Kenya?s next CEO. If no Kikuyu garners for the top seat, Raila?s campaign will be largely deflated as he will not have the ammunitions he had in 2007, rallying other tribes against Mt Kenya folks. Raila?s political future will be doomed.

Unlike Luos who openly express their anger and thoughts and you can easily read their mind and next move, Kikuyus are the opposite. Luos may have celebrated too early that they managed to drive a final nail in the coffin of the frosty relations between Kikuyus and Kalenjins ? stemming from land in Rift Valley. Kikuyus in Rift Valley may never mend fences with Kalenjins. But Kikuyus in Central Province and elsewhere have nothing to loose in mending fences with Kalenjins as long as that will place them in leadership or the next Government. Furthermore, Kikuyus and Kalenjins have a lot at stake ? land in Rift Valley. What have Luos to offer Kikuyus? Kikuyus can bury their past grudges as long as Kalenjins are willing to accommodate them in RV.

In this regard, Raila made the 2007 General Election look like a personal battle against Kikuyus and majority of Kikuyus believe they would not have fallen victims and suffered so much due to PEV were it not for Raila. Even before 2007, majority of Kikuyus openly said they couldn?t vote for a Luo, more so Raila. Raila?s tribal and hatred politics that led to PEV permanently burnt his political bridges with Mt Kenya folks. Raila may have toned down his hard politics on Kibaki to please Mt Kenya folks, but they are unlikely to ever forgive him for the PEV.

>From the look of things, Ocampo is unlikely to go after Kibaki and Raila. Kibaki loses nothing since he is doing his last term. If Ruto and Uhuru Kenyatta are both indicted by Ocampo over PEV and leave Raila, Kikuyus and Kalenjins will be united by a common purpose as happened in the recent Mau evictees fund-raising. The common enemy for the two tribes will be Raila and they will never forgive him for his mass action call that gave birth to PEV and took their sons to Hague.

In such a scenario, the person who will be smiling all the way to the bank and likely to reap is one Kalonzo Musyoka. He?ll tell Kikuyus: ?I rushed to boost Kibaki from Raila on slot after the disputed polls and you retained the presidency.? He?ll turn to Kalenjins and tell them: ?I warned you about Raila. Look at what he has done with you with Mau and with Ruto.? The Mau eviction and PEV trials were the turning point of Raila and Kalenjins and only a divine intervention can save Raila from the imminent tsunami he faces in 20120 and beyond.

Raila mistakenly believes if Hague takes Uhuru and Ruto, his ambitions to rule Kenya are home and sealed. I bet Raila will die like his father before he rules Kenya. The best Raila and his father managed is a step away from the throne. It is very unlikely Kibaki will back Raila in 2012 and Kikuyus are very unlikely to vote for Raila come rain come sunshine ? even with Kibaki?s backing.

Lacking a better strategy to tame the Ruto-Balala axis, Raila has resorted to laughable theatrics by challenging them to quit the Cabinet. That?s a very cowardly challenge. If you are an employer and your employee openly defies you, do you keep daring him to quit or you sack him? A rogue employee looses nothing clinging on and making trouble from within. Ruto and Balala have equally hit back and said they did not fear being sacked.

Raila?s frequent challenge to Ruto & Co to quit shows he has no moral courage to fire the group. He would be digging deeper his political grave. Raila is playing holistic politics. Didn?t the same Raila rock Kibaki?s Govt from within in Narc and after becoming PM? I believe Ruto and Balala have psychologically set their minds Hague is real. They must have decided even if they went to Hague, they?ll sink the political ambitions of the thankless general they fought for.

Raila is fast digging his political grave and if I was him, I would do all I can to win back the Ruto-Balala axis, to win their tribesmen and women. Due to his greed for power, Raila is fast digging his political grave while being cheered by his enemies and his blind supporters. Let?s wait and see if the powerful Kikuyu block with vote for him in 2012.

Kibaki in his first term evicted settlers from Mau forest. Raila ganged up with Ruto and his allies denouncing Kibaki and introducing hate and tribal politics. They used Mau evictions as ammunition against Kibaki in 2005 referendum. When campaigning 2007 presidential elections, Raila and allies perfected hate politics and again used Mau to settle scores with Kibaki and assured settlers they wouldn?t be evicted. Raila scored political mileage and won Kalenjin votes. Ruto and allies perfecting what their master taught them.

Kibaki has last laugh as Raila?s hate politics returns to haunt him. Kibaki is playing clever. He agreed to a truce with Raila and allows him to flex his muscle and exercise his perceived and illusionary powers (Kibaki retains all executive powers) as he sits back to enjoy his former enemies fighting each other and their general.

If Hague prunes Ruto and Uhuru from Kenya?s political map, I encourage doubting Thomases and Raila?s blind ardent follows to keep a copy of this story as a historical reference. I love this show. Who would have expected a fall out after all the chest-thumping in ODM in the run up to 2007.


P.S. And on the CoE constitution, I share Moi?s stand and concerns. Kenya should have one CEO, pure presidential and system. The CEO?s power should be drastically watered down and checked by strong judiciary and parliament. All appointments must be endorsed by Parliament to curb tribalism and nepotism. Two centres of power will put Kenya permanently on tension due to power struggle between president and PM, driving away investors and tourists. Two centres of power will spell doom for the future survival of Kenya. Raila and his like-minded shud should seek our mandate if they want to rule but not grab power through back door.

Kumekucha Weekend Special is back!! Don't miss the most controversial posts here in a long time this Saturday and Sunday. Topic; The Big Luo political kitendawili. Chris is truly BACK!!!

 > To: kca_main at yahoogroups.com
> CC: NewVisionKenya at yahoogroups.com
> From: Wams2006 at gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:07:11 -0500
> Subject: [NewVisionKenya] Why Rutoh will fell Raila..INTERESTING READ
> 
> http://kumekucha.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In the height of post-election violence, William Ruto and Najib Balala
> were key ODM figures who fought the Raila?s mass action war of
> ?stolen? presidency like their own personal fight and the TV images of
> the two fleeing in Nairobi streets from mean-looking GSU officers
> lobbing tear-gas at them are still fresh in my mind. The two men were
> ready to die for Raila. Remember Balala even shed tears when he
> stepped down for Raila during ODM presidential nomination at Kasarani.
> That?s as far as the marriage of convenience lasted.
> 
> The unfolding drama and imminent fall out in ODM was not unexpected
> but I could not imagine Raila falling out with Ruto and Balala. The
> fall out best explains how Kenya politics is fluid. Raila largely owes
> his position and the powers he enjoys to Ruto and Balala. Apart from
> vigorously campaigning for Raila in the 2007 General Elections, Ruto
> and Balala took charge of Raila?s mass action call and rallied ODM
> supporters and their affiliate tribes to civil disobedience to protest
> Kibaki?s controversial win. The fall out is a big lesson to other
> politicians and tribes ? never fight another man?s war or kill in
> their name.
> 
> If Raila called for the mass action and only Luos heeded his call,
> Kenyans wouldn?t have been subjected to PEV or violence would have
> been minimal and of little consequence. But Ruto?s powerbase, the Rift
> Valley, was the main battle zone for PEV and the tragic and barbaric
> events in the province were what put Kenya on the international radar.
> Without Ruto and Balala and the Rift Valley primitive slaughter, Raila
> would have reluctantly settled for the humble position of the Official
> Opposition Leader. But thanks to the blood of innocent Kenyans, Raila
> landed on the prime post he is now using to flex his muscles against
> the foot soldiers and lieutenants who killed and uprooted innocent
> from their homes and businesses in his name.
> 
> Ruto and Balala are the equivalent of Martha Karua, who toppled the
> scale against Raila on the finishing line and ensured Kibaki got a
> controversial second term. Without Karua, Kibaki would have kissed
> goodbye to the presidency. The Krieger Report told us neither Kibaki
> nor Raila could stake a high moral ground and claim they legally won.
> ODM and PNU fiddled with election results in their strongholds. Kibaki
> and Raila loyalists can fume with that assertion but that?s the
> reality. For that, Raila and Kibaki equally share the blame in 2008
> PEV.
> 
> The seeds of hatred were sowed by Kibaki when he refused to honour a
> pre-election MoU with Raila when he came to power in 2002. Kibaki
> added fuel to the fire when he started weeding out key Kalenjins from
> his new Administration. Kalenjins regarded the presidency to be
> synonymous to Moi and as if State House was their property. They were
> bitter loosing power to a Kikuyu. Ruto and Kalenjins would be
> consigned to the political dustbin were it not for Kibaki?s poor
> judgment in politics.
> 
> After the fall out with Kibaki over dishonoured MoU, Raila?s only
> option was to team up with Kibaki?s enemies and that?s how Kalenjins
> and leaders who had looted state coffers or had criminal records (some
> murderers for their roles in 1992 and 1997 tribal clashes), and
> killers likes of Ole Ntimama, got a new lifeline. Raila and his
> new-found allies saw the best way to fight Kibaki was to pour petrol
> to the fire of hatred, which he had lit with the dishonoured MoU. The
> birth of ODM after the 2005 referendum was based on pure hatred
> towards Mt Kenya folks and revenge against Kibaki. Thanks to Kibaki?s
> failures and fall out with Raila, Moi today looks like a saint despite
> his many dark evils in his 24-year rule.
> 
> ODM big guns and their supporters held divergent personal and
> political ideologies and their marriage was only for convenience but
> not driven by desire to bring genuine change and reforms in Kenya.
> These were strange bedfellows. ODM was meant to replace Kibaki?s
> eating club with new or re-packaged thieves and looters. But the
> revenge against Kibaki and by extent his tribe, the Kikuyus, was the
> temporary glue that brought political conmen, looters, murderers and
> graft lords together. The glue held up to the 2007 Presidential
> elections and Kenya went to elections in a charged and polluted
> environment. The ODM unity of purpose ? to kick out Kibaki from State
> House ? was what made Raila?s mass action call work. Sooner or later,
> party time and honeymoon was going to be over for Raila and his ODM.
> 
> Unknown to Ruto and Balala, Koffi Annan was pushing for ceasefire and
> a Grand Coalition Government without revealing his true intentions. He
> wanted to bring peace but ensure killers were punished. In fact, Raila
> and ODM were the ones who wanted Annan and the international to
> intervene claiming they had been robbed of the presidency by Kibaki.
> Kibaki and his allies were content after retaining the presidency and
> they didn?t want Annan to come in.
> 
> Raila and ODM got an upper hand and Kibaki conceded to share power.
> The man ODM saw as their saviour had a trick up his sleeve ?
> unleashing the ICC and Ocampo after the PEV dust settled. Ruto and his
> ODM thought the PEV issue ended as soon as Kibaki and Raila signed a
> peace deal. How mistaken they were! To the disbelief of Ruto, Balala
> and others who suspect their names were in the Waki envelope, Raila
> backed trial of PEV suspects. This is after Raila had equated the PEV
> killers to freedom fighters! What a betrayal from the mass action
> general.
> 
> Raila looked at 2007 General Election as the end of the world ? it was
> a do or die. He forgot he could loose and vie another day. His mass
> action call gave birth to mass murder and Kikuyus suffered the most.
> Raila realised the folly of his mass action call and warmed up to
> Kikuyus and to the larger Mt Kenya people after he invited Kibaki to
> his Bondo home. He now enjoys a good working relationship with Kibaki.
> 
> When relations improved, Kibaki cleverly pushed the explosive Mau
> eviction issue to Raila and the PM enthusiastically took it up hoping
> to win an image of a national and international leader. Raila has
> received a huge sarcastic backing from Mt Kenya folks on the Mau issue
> ? but that will remain as far as Mau forest is concerned. In public,
> Mt Kenya folks displaying their ?support? to Raila in regard to Mau,
> while in private laughing as Raila?s burns the bridges that propelled
> him to where he is today. Doubt this? Read comments on Daily Nation
> website everyday and guess who are cheering on Raila.
> 
> In evicting Kalenjins from Mau, Raila is stepping on the toes of
> murders, thieves, looters and land grabbers who had played a key role
> in his 2007 presidential campaign and what he is today. The current
> fall out was inevitable. Mt Kenya are arguing Raila is unknowingly
> revenging on them for what Kalenjins did to their Gema kinsmen in
> 2008. What a better way to get revenge for Kikuyus killed and uprooted
> from RV? By using their 2007 hero, Raila!
> 
> Those who wish away Kikuyus to play a major role in any election are
> doomed. Kikuyus have the numbers and they vote to preserve their
> selfish interests ? to protect their wealth. In this regard, even if a
> Kikuyu doesn?t vie for the top seat in 2012 to avoid a repeat of the
> backlash of 2007, the community will play a big role in deciding
> Kenya?s next CEO. If no Kikuyu garners for the top seat, Raila?s
> campaign will be largely deflated as he will not have the ammunitions
> he had in 2007, rallying other tribes against Mt Kenya folks. Raila?s
> political future will be doomed.
> 
> Unlike Luos who openly express their anger and thoughts and you can
> easily read their mind and next move, Kikuyus are the opposite. Luos
> may have celebrated too early that they managed to drive a final nail
> in the coffin of the frosty relations between Kikuyus and Kalenjins ?
> stemming from land in Rift Valley. Kikuyus in Rift Valley may never
> mend fences with Kalenjins. But Kikuyus in Central Province and
> elsewhere have nothing to loose in mending fences with Kalenjins as
> long as that will place them in leadership or the next Government.
> Furthermore, Kikuyus and Kalenjins have a lot at stake ? land in Rift
> Valley. What have Luos to offer Kikuyus? Kikuyus can bury their past
> grudges as long as Kalenjins are willing to accommodate them in RV.
> 
> In this regard, Raila made the 2007 General Election look like a
> personal battle against Kikuyus and majority of Kikuyus believe they
> would not have fallen victims and suffered so much due to PEV were it
> not for Raila. Even before 2007, majority of Kikuyus openly said they
> couldn?t vote for a Luo, more so Raila. Raila?s tribal and hatred
> politics that led to PEV permanently burnt his political bridges with
> Mt Kenya folks. Raila may have toned down his hard politics on Kibaki
> to please Mt Kenya folks, but they are unlikely to ever forgive him
> for the PEV.
> 
> From the look of things, Ocampo is unlikely to go after Kibaki and
> Raila. Kibaki loses nothing since he is doing his last term. If Ruto
> and Uhuru Kenyatta are both indicted by Ocampo over PEV and leave
> Raila, Kikuyus and Kalenjins will be united by a common purpose as
> happened in the recent Mau evictees fund-raising. The common enemy for
> the two tribes will be Raila and they will never forgive him for his
> mass action call that gave birth to PEV and took their sons to Hague.
> 
> In such a scenario, the person who will be smiling all the way to the
> bank and likely to reap is one Kalonzo Musyoka. He?ll tell Kikuyus: ?I
> rushed to boost Kibaki from Raila on slot after the disputed polls and
> you retained the presidency.? He?ll turn to Kalenjins and tell them:
> ?I warned you about Raila. Look at what he has done with you with Mau
> and with Ruto.? The Mau eviction and PEV trials were the turning point
> of Raila and Kalenjins and only a divine intervention can save Raila
> from the imminent tsunami he faces in 20120 and beyond.
> 
> Raila mistakenly believes if Hague takes Uhuru and Ruto, his ambitions
> to rule Kenya are home and sealed. I bet Raila will die like his
> father before he rules Kenya. The best Raila and his father managed is
> a step away from the throne. It is very unlikely Kibaki will back
> Raila in 2012 and Kikuyus are very unlikely to vote for Raila come
> rain come sunshine ? even with Kibaki?s backing.
> 
> Lacking a better strategy to tame the Ruto-Balala axis, Raila has
> resorted to laughable theatrics by challenging them to quit the
> Cabinet. That?s a very cowardly challenge. If you are an employer and
> your employee openly defies you, do you keep daring him to quit or you
> sack him? A rogue employee looses nothing clinging on and making
> trouble from within. Ruto and Balala have equally hit back and said
> they did not fear being sacked.
> 
> Raila?s frequent challenge to Ruto & Co to quit shows he has no moral
> courage to fire the group. He would be digging deeper his political
> grave. Raila is playing holistic politics. Didn?t the same Raila rock
> Kibaki?s Govt from within in Narc and after becoming PM? I believe
> Ruto and Balala have psychologically set their minds Hague is real.
> They must have decided even if they went to Hague, they?ll sink the
> political ambitions of the thankless general they fought for.
> 
> Raila is fast digging his political grave and if I was him, I would do
> all I can to win back the Ruto-Balala axis, to win their tribesmen and
> women. Due to his greed for power, Raila is fast digging his political
> grave while being cheered by his enemies and his blind supporters.
> Let?s wait and see if the powerful Kikuyu block with vote for him in
> 2012.
> 
> Kibaki in his first term evicted settlers from Mau forest. Raila
> ganged up with Ruto and his allies denouncing Kibaki and introducing
> hate and tribal politics. They used Mau evictions as ammunition
> against Kibaki in 2005 referendum. When campaigning 2007 presidential
> elections, Raila and allies perfected hate politics and again used Mau
> to settle scores with Kibaki and assured settlers they wouldn?t be
> evicted. Raila scored political mileage and won Kalenjin votes. Ruto
> and allies perfecting what their master taught them.
> 
> Kibaki has last laugh as Raila?s hate politics returns to haunt him.
> Kibaki is playing clever. He agreed to a truce with Raila and allows
> him to flex his muscle and exercise his perceived and illusionary
> powers (Kibaki retains all executive powers) as he sits back to enjoy
> his former enemies fighting each other and their general.
> 
> If Hague prunes Ruto and Uhuru from Kenya?s political map, I encourage
> doubting Thomases and Raila?s blind ardent follows to keep a copy of
> this story as a historical reference. I love this show. Who would have
> expected a fall out after all the chest-thumping in ODM in the run up
> to 2007.
> 
> 
> P.S. And on the CoE constitution, I share Moi?s stand and concerns.
> Kenya should have one CEO, pure presidential and system. The CEO?s
> power should be drastically watered down and checked by strong
> judiciary and parliament. All appointments must be endorsed by
> Parliament to curb tribalism and nepotism. Two centres of power will
> put Kenya permanently on tension due to power struggle between
> president and PM, driving away investors and tourists. Two centres of
> power will spell doom for the future survival of Kenya. Raila and his
> like-minded shud should seek our mandate if they want to rule but not
> grab power through back door.
> 
> Kumekucha Weekend Special is back!! Don't miss the most controversial
> posts here in a long time this Saturday and Sunday. Topic; The Big Luo
> political kitendawili. Chris is truly BACK!!!
> 
> http://kumekucha.blogspot.com/
> 
> Rutoh V Raila
> I have no problem with constructive criticism. Most people think that
> I concede too easily and too quickly at the earliest sign that I have
> been proved wrong. If you ask me most people never want to be proved
> wrong and can argue for hours just to maintain appearances and an
> image of never being wrong. That is really sad because learning
> becomes almost impossible with such a kindergarten attitude.
> 
> Anyway I am writing this post to change my position on the ongoing
> Raila/Ruto war. Earlier I said that I believed that Ruto will go down
> first. Now I am writing to say that Raila will go down first.
> 
> I used history to write my last post and somebody challenged me with
> the same history to prove me wrong. I have dug deep into my history
> books and I have no option but to agree with them. I firmly believe
> that history always repeats itself; I have seen it happen too many
> times.
> 
> Let me give you the historical facts and arguments presented to me.
> 
> On 26th June 1958 Oginga Odinga (father to Raila Odinga) made his
> famous ?Kenyatta tosha? move in parliament (Legco). He did this by
> doing what was then ?unthinkable?. In a speech he later referred to as
> ?his bombshell in the house? he said that those convicted in
> Kapenguria were ?still the real political leaders? of Africans in
> Kenya. He singled out Jomo Kenyatta and compared him to Makarios, the
> then exiled leader of Cyprus. Makarios was a religious leader and it
> was obvious that Odinga was elevating Kenyatta to almost godly status.
> The colonial government did not mince any words and governor Sir
> Evelyn Baring made it clear that the government had no intention of
> allowing Kenyatta to return to active politics even if he were
> released. But the political impact on the ground was huge (just as
> Odinga had intended) and Raila?s dad had set in motion a chain of
> events that would give the presidency to Kenyatta on a silver platter.
> 
> It was clear what had motivated Odinga senior. It was his deep hatred
> for the much younger Luo called Tom Mboya who had outsmarted him at
> every turn. He could not stand the idea of watching the young upstart
> climb to power and loathed the idea so much that he preferred a Kikuyu
> to his own tribes-mate.
> 
> More importantly in retrospect, Odinga launched tribal politics in
> Kenya for the first time. He chose Kenyatta because Kenyatta was a
> Kikuyu and he knew that the bedrock of Mboya?s support in his Nairobi
> constituency were the Kikuyu. Odinga senior was to play this tribal
> card again and again in his political battles against Mboya who firmly
> remained a nationalist to the bitter end.
> 
> My critic says that Odinga seniors? motivation was exactly the same as
> that of Raila in rejecting Uhuru Kenyatta as the presidential
> candidate for Kanu in 2002. Raila chose Mwai Kibaki not because he
> liked him but to frustrate the youngster Uhuru from ascending to the
> presidency. Like his dad he could not bear to see the youngster rise
> to power above him while he watched. Hence the ?Kibaki tosha?
> statement that gave the presidency on a silver platter to the Kikuyu
> once again and this time round to one Mwai Kibaki.
> 
> Back to Odinga senior; the relationship with Kenyatta was warm and
> cordial at first and he was even appointed Kenya?s first Vice
> president. However Jaramogi Oginga Odinga quickly got disillusioned
> and frustrated by the Kenyatta administration of thieves who never saw
> any prime land they did not want to grab. The Kenyatta administration
> was quick to identify Odinga and the Luo community as a serious threat
> and many lives were saved and chaos averted because of this wisdom in
> Kenyatta and his close advisors.
> 
> Mwai Kibaki took a much longer time to realize that Raila was a threat
> after the initial honeymoon had ended. As late as a few months to the
> presidential elections of 2007 many Kibaki advisors were saying that
> Kenyans would never elect ?an Luo Kihehe (uncircumcised)? to the
> presidency. This lack of foresight is what led to the chaos and blood
> shed that will be the Kibaki legacy long after he is gone.
> 
> Kenyatta identified Tom Mboya as the man he would use to neutralize
> the Odinga threat. Kibaki has identified Ruto as the man to use to
> neutralize the Raila threat to him and his administration. Mboya won
> and so will Ruto.
> 
> Jaramogi Oginga Odinga remained very powerful and influential amongst
> the Luo people but was powerless because he had been forced out of
> mainstream national politics. I now believe that exactly the same
> thing will happen with Raila. He will remain very influential in Luo
> Nyanza politics but will fade out of national politics.
> 
> Mboya was killed and elevated to cult status as a result of his death.
> I believe Ruto will be removed from the scene and end up in some
> prison cell which will elevate him to cult status amongst the
> Kalenjin. It is not too dfficult to imagine the Kalenjin talking about
> Ruto in the same awed tones as they still talk about their military
> hero and leader Koitalel arap Samoei. Ironically one of Ruto?s names
> is Samoei. Read all about this amazing Kalenjin secrets in my earlier
> post. Read This one first.
> 
> Away from history there are some telling pointers on the ground that
> point to a Raila downfall in the very near future.
> 
> For starters he has made the same mistake Mwai Kibaki made in 2005 in
> thinking that he would still win the referendum for a new constitution
> he had crafted with Wako, with the big landowners of Kenya on the
> opposing side. Have you ever wondered why the Kenyattas, Mois etc were
> so firmly against the new constitution (redrafted by Wako)? It was the
> simple matter of what that draft had to say about land policy and a
> truth and reconciliation commission. In simple language passing that
> new constitution in 2005 would have meant that the Kenyattas Mois etc
> would have ended up losing their vast tracts of land (and thus
> wealth).
> 
> If Raila sees the Mau evictions to their logical end, one of the
> biggest losers (apart from William Ruto himself) will be former
> president Daniel arap Moi and his sons. The Kenyattas are very worried
> because after Mau other parcels of land countrywide are sure to
> follow. While it is important for Kenya and Kenyans that Raila wins
> this gallant fight, the political reality is that he cannot. He is
> already a marked man. Give the powerful landowners of Kenya a few
> weeks and their money will have done its work and gathered enough
> votes in parliament to easily pass a vote of no confidence in the
> Prime Minister. But before that the president will appoint a new
> leader of government business in the house and Raila will no longer
> have the clout in the house to reject the appointment this time.
> 
> Folks ODM is dead and no matter what Steadman polls say, Raila is no
> longer the formidable national political figure he was in 2007. If you
> can?t hear what I am saying, then please try and read my lips ODM IS
> DEAD AND BURIED!!!
> http://kumekucha.blogspot.com/
> 
> Last edited by Ole Ole 2 (Today 15:44:32)
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From prcanb at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 19:37:37 2009
From: prcanb at yahoo.com (Absalom Birai)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:37:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Learning from the Master!
Message-ID: <778449.72508.qm@web38704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

In his daily busy schedule of preaching the good news and healing all manner of diseases,Jesus was confronted with many diverse questions.
A careful study of the gospels will amaze you at the way He answered the questions. Unlike us,He read the motive of those who were asking the questions and therefore always provided straight answers. I will cite some of the passages wherein we find some of the questions:

"And one said unto him, Lord, are they few that are saved? And he said unto them,Strive to enter in by the narrow door: for many, I say unto you, shall seek to enter in, and shall not be able.(Luke 13:23-24) 

 "Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, "Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?" "Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments." (Mathew 19:16-17.) 

"Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that thou art true, and teachest the way of God in truth, neither carest thou for any man: for thou regardest not the person of men.Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not? But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites? Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.When they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way." (Mathew 22:15-22).

"At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?"He called a little child and had him stand among them.And he said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven."And whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me. But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. (Mathew 18:1-5).


>From the above,we can tell that there are those who came with a wrong motive but left wondering at His way of answering. He never at any time entered into any kind of argument.

My prayer is to learn from the master and emulate Him in all that I do. So, help me dear God.

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From rsyokau at lloydmasika.co.ke  Tue Dec  8 22:57:47 2009
From: rsyokau at lloydmasika.co.ke (Rose Syokau)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 06:57:47 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] INSPIRATIONAL
Message-ID: <20091209035449.1F32C14F89E@mail.lloydmasika.co.ke>

 
A GOD OF JUSTICE
After a tiring two-week criminal trial in a high profile bank robbery case,
the jury finally ended its 14 hours of deliberations and entered the
courtroom to deliver its verdict to the judge. The judge turned to the jury
foreman and asked, "Has the jury reached a verdict in this case?" 
"Yes we have, your honor," the foreman responded. 
"Would you please pass it to me?" the judge declared, as he motioned for the
bailiff to retrieve the verdict slip from the foreman and deliver it to him.

After the judge read the verdict himself, he delivered the verdict slip back
to his bailiff to be returned to the foreman and instructed the foreman,
"Please read your verdict to the court." 
"We find the defendant NOT GUILTY of all four counts of bank robbery,"
stated the foreman. 
The family and friends of the defendant jumped for joy at the sound of the
"not guilty" verdict and hugged each other as they shouted expressions of
gratitude.  The defendant's attorney turned to his client and asked, "So,
what do you think about that?" 
The defendant said, "I'm real confused here.  Does this mean that I don't
have to give all the money back?" 
I don't believe the story is true, but it certainly could have been.  "If
you see the poor oppressed in a district, and justice and rights denied, do
not be surprised at such things..." (Eccl. 5:8a).   We know, all too well,
stories of injustice in our court system.  There is a big difference between
receiving a "not guilty" verdict in a court case and truly being "innocent."
And it angers us when we believe that someone has "beat the system" and
avoided punishment they deserve. 
For someone who does not believe in God, injustice leads to bitterness and
depression.  Life is unfair.  Innocent people are hurt and guilty people are
not held accountable. 
But, for the Christian, we know that justice will prevail.  God is not only
a God of absolute love and grace, but He is also a God of absolute justice. 
"[God] will render to each one according to his deeds:  eternal life to
those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and
immortality; but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth,
but obey unrighteousness -- indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish,
on every soul of man who does evil..." (Rom. 2:6-9) 
We live in an unjust world, but we take comfort that someday all men will
stand accountable before a just God. 
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From adahviata at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 23:32:51 2009
From: adahviata at yahoo.com (Adah Viata)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:32:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] karaoke
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Kindly call this No.+254727669556, she is Doreen Seke and hosts Karaoke.

 ADAH VIATA 
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From: Tuta Mionki <mionki at gmail.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 10:43:23 PM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] karaoke

Every Friday from 9pm to midnight at Pots & Palms, officepark, Riversimes.

On 12/8/09, diana ayimba <dame_aishad at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Anybody with idea of when and where karaoke takes place in town.
>
> Rgds.
>
>
>
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>
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From akbirech at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 00:59:29 2009
From: akbirech at gmail.com (Abraham Birech)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:59:29 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Tiger Woods
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It was his mother-in law

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Tigeress <lizamwayi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Poor guy... Gosh you cant even take someone (your rela, house help or wife)
> to hospital in peace? I think he should relocate to Kenya he would be like
> any other "nyeuthi" and if Kenyans cant even recognize Bill Gates in a
> chemist... I think its the perfect hide out..
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Mr Samwel kumba <samkumba at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>>   An unidentified woman has been transported from Tiger Woods' Florida  home
>> to the hospital by ambulance, WESH-TV reports.
>>
>>
>>
>> The station says Orange County firefigjters responded to a medical call at
>> the golfer's home eat 2:36 a.m. today.
>>
>>
>>
>> WESH says video shows a middle-aged woman being taken from an ambulance on
>> a stretcher at the hospital's emerenchy engtrance.
>>
>>
>>
>> WESH says that a radio log shows that the patient initally refused to be
>> transported by was later listed as an advanced life support patient.
>>
>>
>>
>> Click here for the report.
>>
>>
>>
>> Update at 7:14 am. ET:  The Orlando Sentinel reports that Orange County
>> Fire Rescue spokeswoman Genevieve Latham confirmed that firefighters
>> responded to a call at the Woods address.
>>
>>
>>
>> Latham said it was a "medical call" and that  the patient "refused to be
>> transported to the hospital," the newspaper reports.
>>
>>
>>
>> Latham said there was no indication that rescue crews took anyone to the
>> hospital, despite some news reports, the paper says.
>>
>>
>>
>> Update 7:18 a.m. ET: The newspaper says a report by WFTV shows that a
>> Cadillac Escalade, similar to the vehicle Woods had crashed outside his home
>> last week, appeared at Health Central Hospital in Ocoee shortly after the
>> 911 call to his' home.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Sentinel says the tag number on the vehicle is similar to the one on
>> Woods' car, as reported in the Florida Highway Patrol's crash report last
>> week.
>>
>>
>>
>> Update at 7:24 a.m. ET: WFTV quotes witnesses as saying that  an
>> "attractive blonde woman who looked similar to Tiger's wife Elin" was
>> driving the vehicle. It says the license plate on the Escalade was only one
>> character difference from the car involved in the crash.
>>
>>
>>
>> Update at 8 a.m. ET: The Orlando Sentinel reports that Latham has  revised
>> her earlier statement and confirms that official records now show that
>> someone was, in fact, taken to the hospital from the Woods' residence.
>>
>>
>>
>> Latham is quoted by the newspaper as saying information was initially
>> incorrectly logged into the reporting system indicating that no one had been
>> transported, but that that has now been fixed.
>>
>>
>>
>> "The command center made an error," Latham is quoted by the paper as
>> saying. "The information was put in backward. Rescue crews did transport a
>> patient to the hospital."
>>
>>
>>
>> Ess Kay Kay
>>
>>
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>>
>> Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm
>>
>> Meeting Venue: Koblenz hall, Mombasa Coast Tourism and Hotels Association
>> Offices - Moi Avenue (this has been provided by Millie, member. Tea will
>> also be served courtesy of her).
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>>
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From johngichuru2004 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 01:17:05 2009
From: johngichuru2004 at gmail.com (Gichuru)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:17:05 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Memorable n funny X-mas experiences-share
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Johana, my neighbour and cousin used to love coming home for he knew the
visit would bring good tidings. He was most of the time not disappointed. So
this one Christmas day he makes his routine visit, but back in his mind he
knew the tidings would be more attractive than before. He was right! It was
Christmas! This was the time things like chapati, soda, rice, nyama,
carrots, appeared in the menu. Those were the days when, those delicacies
used to be like companys' AGMs - Annual.

Another thing that used to be given in good measure during this period was
generosity. People's generosity used to be outstanding at this time, and
everyone offered everything. Back to the story. So in the spirit of
generosity, Johana would be offered all these rare stuff. "Johana, will you
take chapati?", my mum would ask. "Yes", Johana would calmly and politely
respond. So Johana would gladly munch away whatever came his way.

Rare liquids also use to appear at this time. It was time to take a break
from sugarless tea, turungi (true tea) and enjoy a cool glass of Tree Top
juice, Fanta orange, Coca Cola, Mirinda.... So Johana was not left behind
and was offered these drinks to down the sumptuous delicacies. And there was
variety to choose from and beloved Johana made one choice; like a good wine
taster, he decided to sample a glass/cup of each of the drinks on offer;
after all it was Christmas!

So as we continued making merry, Johana disappeared. We frantically looked
for him, for there was still more sumptuous meals remaining. A sound of
someone groaning attracts us. We hurriedly headed to where the sound was
coming from. Sure enough, rolling on the floor behind the granaray was
Johana. His shirt buttons had been ripped off by the potruding belly. The
site was one to behold. Here is a boy, rolling on the ground, the tummy
stretched to the maximum and bare. So I ask Johana, "ni nini?" and he
retorts, "ni kushiba nimeshiba sana!". Suffice it to say everyone joined him
on the floor, not because of kushiba, but because of the site. We had to
call cucu to come and administer first aid on the poor soul!

More to follow shortly

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Maryleen <maryleen at pelum.net> wrote:

>  You've made my day!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Tigeress <lizamwayi at gmail.com>
> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:54 AM
> *Subject:* [YP_Ke] Memorable n funny X-mas experiences-share
>
> Hi,
>
> As the holidays approach, lets recap, reminisce and have a chuckle about
> past holidays...
>
> 1.One X-mas, we had visitors, family friends,  the father of this family
> had taken so much alcohol before he came home, and he still continued taking
> it at our place, he blacked out on the sofa.. and peed on it... the smell
> hmmm.... even the urinal of "hura kanua (wipe your mouth) Bar smells
> better... ( if you remember the brown n black "leather" sofas that our
> parents used to have).... every day we would take that seat out in the sun
> to dry for like 2 weeks... it took several months for the smell and the
> patch to disappear..
>
> 2. When I started working, I decided I would surprise my parents, every
> time they called to ask me if I am going home for X-mas, I would say no...
>  So on the actual X-mas day, I travelled early in the morning, with my X-mas
> "shopping" ready to cook for the family some nice holiday recipes....I was
> at home by 10.00 a.m. Haiya, no-one was at home! The only neighbor I found
> told me they were in church, I dashed there, only to be told church ended at
> 11.00... I thought maybe they were in the shopping center they would turn up
> after an hour or so..I decided to wait for them at home. They arrived at
> 10.00 p.m.! I was so cold waiting outside,I didn't have the keys.. and I
> could not imagine knocking at my neighbours on X-mas day.. Only to be told
> they had gone to my  grandfather had insisted on inviting all his sons and
> daughters... Yes, this was before cellphones became very popular! No more
> holiday surprises!
>
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From fotiato at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 03:04:01 2009
From: fotiato at gmail.com (Felix Otiato)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:04:01 -1200
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Current Noise Pollution is SILLY
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Ibrahim,

My friend you are the type of people we tell to go to hell. On what grounds
do you think you can 'curse' someone that 'the power of the almighty will
come upon him'. You are the group of fellows that want to use impunity to
line their pockets. we all know what most of these 'churches' with
loudspeakers do; and am sorry to tell you that time is over. You need to
pray decently like everyone else so that we can assimilate lost people like
you to the life of law and order.

You cannot call someone working for the good of all silly and perishing. And
you need to grow up because you have never seen God and you don't know whose
side He is on. If you are used to lying to your flock that you talk on God's
behalf please don't try it here. Thse laws are a step in the right direction
and we support them fully. So my best advise is that you please read them
first before venting ignorance around. You are so fake.


On 12/8/09, ibrahim kiche <ibrahimkiche at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   Dear Kenyans,
>
> Please the minister who came up with noise pollution is not God fearing and
> the heavens and the power of the Almighty God will come on him.
>
> This is a SILLY thought and Foolishness and meant to come from the
> PERISHING Man. This is not Safety belt...
>
> Anybody can tell him that;
>
>    1. The Crusades we will have and let him come with his men and see what
>    will happen. He cannot stand before the Might Gospel. The Repentance meeting
>    in Kisumu 2009-12-31 to 2010-01-01 we will attend.
>    2. The ramadhan will continue as usual.
>    3. The Football and all the shouts and Fun will continue.
>    4. The vehicles will move including his with that "noise"
>    5. The rally including political ones will continue.
>    6. The Chief baraza will move on,
>    7. The plains will land and fly with that noise.
>
>
> Therefore the heavens (stars, sun and the moon, other heavenly body, the
> Mighty Military Angels of the Lord, the things on the Land and Water will
> rise to fight this matter.
>
> Kenya is for God, that minister needs to know God.
>
> Amen.
>
> Shalom and With Calvary Love Always,
> Ibrahim
>
>
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From ibrahim.karani78 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 02:37:15 2009
From: ibrahim.karani78 at gmail.com (Ibrahim karani)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:37:15 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Apartment in Busia Kenya.
Message-ID: <2394eabc0912082337r42aea9f0w6b3cfb7854b1b35a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all young pros.

I have a computer accessories shop in Kisumu and have opened a branch in
Busia-Kenya.I am looking for a 2-bedroomed house with water and power in
Busia Kenya.Rent should not be more than 10k per month.Also need to employ a
lady who can do typesetting,lamination,binding etc.must hav internet
knowledge and must be based in or around Busia.my mail is
ibrahimoum at yahoo.com

ibrahim

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From amosogal at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 03:04:44 2009
From: amosogal at gmail.com (Lee Makwiny)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:04:44 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: SHOULD RAILA BE VERY WORRIED?
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Tigeress,

Ruto can not join UDM now. He will hang on. There is something called
political parties bills that requires him and group to resign, so i guese he
wont resign, but personally, I think its in his good interest to resign
since he can easily win back his seat. Sally Kosgey will loose, I can also
bet that Kutuny will loose. Thats politics. I love RV people for one thing,
they know how to vote. But the sooner they learn that Ruto is leading
nowhere the better. Raila is not the presidency. Politics has started, let
now wait and see who will be attending those rallies of his. Start with
Ababu, he is nolonger interested after learning he was fighting a loosing
game. Adan Duale is also drifting. Just watch. Sang et al must advise Ruto
that reviving YK92 will drive more Kenyans aways from Ruto!




On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Tigeress <lizamwayi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Maurice? 2017? I really hope majority of the people mentioned here will be
> serving their "posh" jail terms at the Hague!
> Ruto said he will make a major announcement come New year;s eve...  There
> is talk of joining UDM..
> Why do people think that PNU will front Uhuru, please, let me go and throw
> up on that note!
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:29 PM, maurice oduor <mauricejoduor at yahoo.ca>wrote:
>
>>   If Kalenjins leave ODM who are they going to join? PNU? I don't think
>> so. There is no way our cousins in PNU will ever support a Kalenjin for the
>> Presidency, no way and you know that, Sang. Plus there is still so much bad
>> blood between the Kales and the Kiuks that I do not think they are anywhere
>> near reconciliation.The Kiuks may only use Ruto to get his support in 2012
>> and as soon as, let's say, Uhuru wins, it will be politics as it is with
>> Kibaki. Mark my words, Sang, mark my words.
>>
>> I hope their party (if they form one) do not go the way of FORD-Kenya.
>> Don't forget Kalenjins themselves are now divided the Gideon/Salat group,
>> and the Ruto group, not to forget the Sally/Kosgey group.
>>
>> The best chance for Ruto to achieve the Presidency is to stay put in ODM
>> and the party will sponsor him for 2017. Otherwise, he's letting his
>> political future be controlled by the likes of Kutuny. What a shame!
>>
>> Any problem Ruto has with Raila can be solved in-house in ODM, not through
>> the media.
>>
>> Courage,
>> Maurice
>>
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 12/8/09, sang kip <kipjsang at yahoo.com>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: sang kip <kipjsang at yahoo.com>
>>
>> Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: SHOULD RAILA BE VERY WORRIED?
>> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>> Received: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 11:45 AM
>>
>>
>>  *Lordvick:
>> I like your analysis but I am sorry to tell you it is built on "ifs". You
>> say Raila has Sally and Bett but should have fast of all known two critical
>> facts about the two and others like Kosgey before concluding that they will
>> deliver for Raila. Bett is on his way out. He and Kosgey are among major
>> grabbers Raila should be fighting.The former won Bureti because he used huge
>> sum of money at a time when ODM was riding high. He never won the seat but
>> the party won. If Raila is banking on Bett let him know that the man has no
>> chance come 2012. Sally on the other hand was Moi's right hand lady until
>> few months before 2007 elections.Like Bett she is self centered, selfish and
>> a beneficiary of 2007 euphoria. *
>> *Kosgey is anti-Kipsigis which is the largest (1/2 of Kalenjin), Tugen,
>> Keiyo, Markwet,Sabaot, Pokot and Ogiek.Facts known to pundits show all other
>> subtribes of Kalenjin are pro-Ruto except a few Nandi who dine and wine with
>> Kosgey.Of all the Kalenjin, Kipsigis is the largest.they are found all over
>> Kalenjinland and Maasailand. They are closely related to Ogiek who were
>> evicted from Mau .Fact: you lose Kipsigis vote, you lose Kalenjin vote.*
>> *At the moment things have changed.People attend PM's meetings but they
>> know where they stand.Hear it from me, "Raila has no much votes in
>> kalenjinland now but one hot button issue that can change that is how he is
>> going to handle Mau evictees"On the other hand regardless of how much Ruto
>> is vilified, three quarters of Kalenjin see him as a hero fighting for their
>> rights.Call him what you want to call him, RVP has never produced a
>> politician who ever challenged Moi and lived to tell it.I don't belong to
>> Ruto's corner but one fact makes me admire him- his ability to stand for
>> Kalenjin rights.*
>> *Evictions in Maasai Mau will soon take place.Most of the evictees will
>> be soldiers who legally bought land from Maasai.The latter were allocated
>> the land as from 1978 when kenyatta was president and Jackson Harvester
>> Angaine was Minister for Lands and Settlement.At the time, Ole Ntimama was
>> chairman of County Council of Narok which approved the allocations.Now one
>> fact is that most of the evictees from Maasai Mau will be well connected
>> Maasai politicians and families. Chief Ntutu has 10,000 cares, chief Kurieta
>> has about 10,000 acres, late Ole Tipis, Ole Ntimama, Ole Lankas, Ole Tuiya,
>> etc, will be evicted.Ole Ntimama thought evictions would target only
>> kalenjin who bought land from the Maasai and that is why he supported
>> eviction.Let's wait and see how he's going to react to Maasai eviction.Who
>> do you think Maasai will blame?Is it Ntimama or Raila? What are Raila's
>> changes after eviction of Maasai from their ranches?*
>> **
>> *Your analysis is based on newspapers written by couch journalists in
>> Nairobi.facts on ground show a big shift in RVP towards PNU.I laughed when I
>> read The Standard where some professors said Raila still has grassroot
>> support among the ordinary people even in Chepalungu.That is deception
>> deduced from huge attendance of Raila's rally at Siongiroi. I also laugh
>> loud when I hear journalsits say the wananchi love Raila more than their
>> MPs. What I know is that it will take a miracle for Raila to win RVP in 2012
>> if things will remain as they are now.*
>> **
>> *Since Moi's departure the politics of RVP is no longer centered on
>> politicians but elders who wield immense powers and respect more than
>> politicians. Kalenjin Council of Elders include Lt Gen Cheruiyot (Nandi), Lt
>> Gen Koech (Kipsigis). Lt Gen Sumbeiywo (Keiyo), Gen Tonje (Tugen), Maj
>> Seii who is the cairman comes from keiyo and politicians, businessmen and
>> former seasoned civil servants.Things are not just Tononoka rally and
>> journalists' anlysis.It is actuality!*
>> **
>> *I love to read speculation on this forum but the fact is that Raila is
>> losing RVP by the hour. Even befeore Mau saga voters were beginning to see
>> him as being rather arrogant, self-righteous and all- knowing.A man who
>> cannot not be adviced. Raila deceives himself that he is so popular in the
>> region that he needs no one to advice him except Kosgey and Sirma.In fact
>> Sirma and Kosgey have made Raila lose RVP faster and Ruto knows   and that's
>> why he is capitalizing on it.When they said in Tononoka that ODM is alive
>> and well in the pronvince they lied the way sycophants lied to Moi about
>> people's demand for multiparty politics.The court poets then led Moi to
>> believe all was well just the way Sirma and Kosgey are doing now to Raila.
>> *
>> *let's discuss facts and not newspaper myths!*
>> **
>> **
>> **
>> **
>> *  *
>>
>> *
>> ------------------------------
>> From: Lordvick Otieno <lordvickp at yahoo.com>
>> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 5:33:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: SHOULD RAILA BE VERY WORRIED?
>>
>> This is a very good analysis.
>> you must not overly be scared about this losing of block votes as several
>> factors in play can prove wrong the facts of invisibility of some big block
>> votes. We saw Moi win in 1997 elections despite the might of Kikuyu block
>> vote wholesally going to Kibaki. We likewise saw in 2002, the almost to a
>> man block vote of Kalenjins going to Uhuru but he hugely and miserably lost
>> to Kibaki.
>>
>> Other issues includes generational changes with new paradimes in
>> thinking especially among the first time youthfull voters and many younger
>> voters whoe' views on new keys national that elicite debates of high
>> national proportions are also key factors that influence them
>> .
>> Over reliance on block votes based on ethnic beliefs at the chagrin of
>> disregarding more key outstanding issues has of late proven to be the
>> undoing of some political kingpins like Nyachae and Kombo, who thought they
>> could block Raila, from getting votes some regions by being preoccupied and
>> overpossesed with the issue of circumcision or cultural values that do not
>> conform with their tribesmen.
>>
>> Other factors are perfect timing comes in political moves. Raila timed his
>> implotion in Kanu perfectly well as by the time he led a big rebellion
>> against Moi, with two months prior to elections, the later had no time and
>> strategy or fall back plan to regroup.
>> Similarly Kalonzo's last minute decamping from Raila did a severe damage
>> to due to his timing.
>>
>> What helps Raila too well is the serious issues of irredimable
>> conflicts Ruto's people and Uhuru's crowd have to grind prior to their
>> alliances. It's evident the two lack the capacity to pull their troops as a
>> block. There is also the issue of their Presidential ambitions as who will
>> get the ribs, the whole legs and the arms when the hunted animal has to be
>> divided. This may lead to serious fallout later where key jilted lover may
>> end crossing to Odinga.
>> All must not play second fiddle unlike Raila who's almost sure of carrying
>> the ODM mantle.
>> This means Raila can effectively balance a slot to march against Ruto,
>> Uhuru or Kalonzo, as ODM has abundance of Sally, Bett,Ngilu, and options of
>> Karua, Kenneth and Saitoti if they choose to play in the same team..
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Breigner <**peter.osotsi at gmail.com*<http://ca.mc1108.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=peter.osotsi at gmail.com>
>> *>
>> To: youngprofessionals_ke <**youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com*<http://ca.mc1108.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
>> *>
>> Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 4:29:45 PM
>> Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: SHOULD RAILA BE VERY WORRIED?
>>
>> Daniel;
>>
>> Usione simba amenyeshewa udhani ni paka. As a friend let me be candid.
>> Raila, since the days of yore, has been always like that proverbial
>> phoenix, rising from the ashes after every misfortune.
>>
>> Remember even Moi tried to kill him while he was disguised as a woman
>> while running to Uganda. He is a man who is at his prime in terms of
>> reading real politics of the day.
>>
>> William Samoei Ruto can go sing as loud as a parrot, he can climb the
>> tallest tree in the forest and behave like a giraffe, he can sing
>> loudest like jungle people calling out each other. In fact he can do
>> all he wants. Fact is, Ruto has no numbers to back him. A little fact:
>>
>> Rift Valley is not exclusive to Kalenjins alone. Ruto's Eldoret North
>> is part of a cosmopolitan city the size of Eastlands, called Eldoret.
>> Having lived there and heard from him, the people there will forgive
>> him less for the atrocities "his" people meted on other tribes. In
>> fact, Ruto might never see the inside of parliament again. He has very
>> serious untainted young Kalenjin competitors and they are just waiting
>> for Raila to prop them up at 64 stadium for all and sundry to
>> appreciate.
>>
>> Kalenjins only occupy Central and part of North Rift. Thats a very
>> small part with about 500,000 voters. Real Kalenjins don't even listen
>> to the joker Moi, the man who brought so much suffering and hatred
>> among the Kalenjin. He made the people of Baringo wallow in poverty,
>> he mistreated the Nandi and the Kipsigis, look at Koibatek, his people
>> are still eating cactus fruit year in year out yet he served as their
>> faithful MP and president for more than 45 years. Moi's ilk invaded
>> the Mau and drove the people who lived in the fringes deep inside the
>> forest. And you think they don't know.
>>
>> The Maasai and their variants would never listen to Ruto. Let me see
>> who else lives in the Rift, eeeer, the Turkana, Somalis, the Rendille,
>> Kikuyu's, etc. The Luhya's occupy most of the north of North Rift. So
>> who is Ruto fooling? Even Kalenjins are not with him on this.
>>
>> What is Balala up to? Ali Hassan Joho and his people have already
>> finished him, in fact he dug his own grave and is busy putting the
>> soil on top. Wait until he stops breathing. He's in a self destruct
>> mode. No one can stop his death now, he's finished himself, can't stop
>> laughing ha ha ha.
>>
>> I am in Western, the land of amakulukulu, the beautiful land of many
>> warm hills. The land of a thousand hills. We have intermarried with
>> Kalenjins for years, and will be friends (though I understand things
>> are a little bad at the moment because Ruto is 3rd from Mudavadi, I
>> mean, you can't please everyone at the same time. But we will prevail,
>> friendships last longer than politics. Politicians come and go,
>> marriages last. And my Kalenjin friends aren't skinning me coz of
>> Ruto, so I see everything is fine).
>>
>> In Cherengany, we have another cosmopolitan area with very many
>> credible competitors in the thickets waiting to bite Kutuny. I can't
>> stop laughing whenever I hear Kutuny mumble himself hoarse. He's a
>> real character. If he knew whats awaiting him at "home", he would be
>> better off keeping quiet. Perhaps no one would know he exists.
>> Cherengany hills are now bare and that's angering his constituents.
>> The constituency is getting warmer and warmer by the day because the
>> rocks are now exposed to the sun and is causing micro climate change
>> in the entire region. The once fertile land is* now leeched by the
>> torrential rains causing the virgin land go virgin in terms of crop
>> production. The place is now as hot as Mwingi north, the home of
>> Kaloser. That's enough to make him keep his loud mouth shut, he's in
>> for real shock. If he ever makes it back, and I pray he tries to make
>> his way again, I better not predict.
>>
>> As for the rest, its coming back to them who their true friends are.
>> Stick with the history makers and be in the winning team. Those people
>> that are talking Mau loudest know Hague is beckoning and can't sleep.
>> They have nothing else to keep them worried better than Hague. Forget
>> IDP's or evictees. These men are in constant panic and anything they
>> hold their hands on, they hold tight. It might be the last salvation.
>> As the PM said, "hio taka taka inaenda kutupwa ocean" - read
>> Mediterranean Sea while to the Hague. Now the man they are firghting
>> can't speak in good light to save them. What a sad tale! They make
>> Raila and Kibaki's work easier by pooling in the same direction.
>>
>> As for Moi, he is seeing his last scion cut in pieces by the man who
>> blasted the cockerel. He's alive to see for himself how modern
>> politicians mutate and self destruct! The old Kanu, the people who
>> brought Kenya to its knees, are now in one bin ready to be tossed into
>> the sea. And with it, the dream of 100 years of Kanu rule. Hao na
>> Mutahi Ngunyi, bure kabisa.
>>
>> To cap, Raila has no reason to fear anything. The enemy is self
>> destructing under his very watch. He needn't be worried since all
>> Kenyans remember what Jirongo, Ruto and so on did to take us where we
>> are. We all know how "Jirongo's" almost brought Kenya to its knees. We
>> all know how Jirongo and Ruto the YK92 machine almost killed Kenya.
>> Its time they steped aside so that the ghost of misrule that has
>> brought us where we are is buried.
>>
>> Well done Raila Amolo Odinga, may God add you a thousand more years.
>> You stand with Kenyans whenever we need you to.
>>
>> Kenfish PO
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> {Im not an ODM | Raila Activist and im not affiliated with any
>> political party}
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2:53 pm, Faiza Hassan <antiho... at gmail.com<http://ca.mc1108.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=antiho... at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> > Kenyans are not for tribal alliances. Let us wait for new constitution
>> > then we shall see how this alliance will be.
>> >
>> > On 12/7/09, Dan Nyutu <deny... at gmail.com<http://ca.mc1108.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=deny... at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > YPs,
>> >
>> > > Recent developments in the political arena have been about two
>> > > fellows, the PM and Ruto, previously close allies.
>> >
>> > > Ruto marshalled 56 MPs including ten ministers in a few days to his
>> > > MAU harambee. Going by Kenya's election traditions where tribal kings
>> > > dictate how the followers vote, his Rift valley block votes may not go
>> > > to Raila again. Thus for Raila to win an election, he need a similar
>> > > block of votes to replace that block.
>> >
>> > > I doubt he can get a replacement block from Eastern or Central (being
>> > > the other blocks that did not vote him in) since their Chiefs, read
>> > > Uhuru and Kalonzo, are in alliance with Ruto. Without these three
>> > > blocks of Rift valley, Eastern, Central (and probably Nairobi since
>> > > the three blocks residents would make a majority here) he can as well
>> > > forget a majority win.
>> >
>> > > I tend to agree with Mutahi Ngunyi's latest assessment that all forces
>> > > that Raila has trampled on, are now on his neck. This would include
>> > > the president, Ruto, Uhuru, Kalonzo, Moi, Kanu, PNU etc...
>> >
>> > > For now they may appear non-starters against the PM since the issue at
>> > > hand, the MAU, the population supports the PM. However, the issues
>> > > will change and such an alliance can be lethal once it gains momentum.
>> > > The PM needs to stop this alliance taking shape coz if it does, he
>> > > wont be able to stop it and if they can convince their followers, that
>> > > can be dangerous to his political survival.
>> >
>> > > Way out for PM? I cant really see how. He should be really worried.
>> > > Isnt it sad that politicians can work all their lives to improve
>> > > living standards of their people only to be wiped out once they fall
>> > > out with the big guys. Isnt it sad that Raila is working hard to
>> > > restore the MAU for future generations but the trouble he has got
>> > > into, may mess his hard fought ambitions? Can our politics ever be
>> > > issue based?
>> >
>> > > If it wont be PM at the helm, i expect a miracle President to come and
>> > > save us coz i cant figure out how the KKK alliance can do any good for
>> > > the country now that they may dislodge our man.
>> >
>> > > --
>> > > Daniel Nyutu
>> >
>> > > Strategy Consultant
>> > > Strategic Leadership Center International
>> > > Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100
>> > > Nairobi, Kenya.
>> > > Tel: 3872252/ 3877637/ 2067622
>> > > Email: dny... at gmail.com<http://ca.mc1108.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dny... at gmail.com>
>> > > Cell: 0728-200075
>> >
>> > > "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
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>> >
>> > > Albert Einstein (Attributed)
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>> >
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From ibrahim.karani78 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 02:59:20 2009
From: ibrahim.karani78 at gmail.com (Ibrahim karani)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:59:20 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] photo scanning
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Recently I asked why I should be charged 5 or 10 shillings to photocopy my
I/D.Some said that it is because 2sides are photocopied.others said that the
guy photocopying needs to be very accurate blah,blah blah.

And now why should i be charged 50 or 40 shillings to scan a passport photo?

Ibrahim

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From adagalalex at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Dec  9 02:34:27 2009
From: adagalalex at yahoo.co.uk (alex adagala)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:34:27 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Draft will kill tribal arithmetic
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Draft will kill tribal arithmetic
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By ELIAS MOKUA NYATETEPosted Tuesday, December 8 2009 at 18:20
IGNORANCE CAN BE A RUDE WORD to use against educated people like some of our politicians. Yet, how else can one term the political alliances with an ethnic bias being formed all over the country?
Have those forming these alliances read the proposed constitution and realised that there is very little to gain?
The detailed articles in Chapter 12 of the draft constitution touch on a new form of executive discharge of political power. Even after all kinds of amendments, the presidency (or prime minister? office, depending on which one will be more powerful) will contain very little of the actual power we know today.
Those still forming political alliances oblivious of the implications of the new structures of executive power are only preaching tribal alliances.
If these alliances were to hold the same value as they have to date, then the sections on devolution would be negated.
But, as long as the sections are the body and soul of Chapter 12, the functions of the regional and country assemblies supported by the double-chamber National Assembly are primarily meant to exercise real power.
This means the question of ?we deserve more seats because we delivered more votes? is likely to count for very little. The draft contains solid checks and balances on that issue.
In addition, the whole concept of economic gain from the central government will be muted substantially. For ordinary Kenyans, the focus will be on the performance of county and regional governments because these are to be the instruments of power that will deliver good roads, clean water, health facilities, electricity, and indeed, ensure high agricultural production.
It is for these institutions to bargain on behalf of their people for equity in the distribution of national resources..
NO LONGER WILL MPs BE AS CENTR-al to our lives as they are under the current government. Their role will be strictly ?representative?, meaning they will have less influence in the decisions and implementation of government services in the regions and counties.
Instead, they will formulate policies and oversee the performance of the central government, which will remain largely an ?amorphous? institution in the day-to-day lives of most Kenyans.
Granted, the president and prime minister in the new constitution will have some power, but this will largely be symbolic ? for those who think tribally!
With each region running its own affairs, the overall impact of the prime minister and president will be felt only nationally. We shall only take interest in these national figures based on what they achieve on the very important issues.
In countries like Australia and the US, the local state government is ?the government? because the main focus of the central government is national policies on issues such as security and international representation, and hence is far removed from the daily operations at the regional and county levels.
Therefore, rather than waste time crisscrossing the country staging meaningless political rallies, these leaders should start forming strong party alliances. That is where national politics will be played out ? not in the villages. The villages are now territories for representatives we call today councillors.
Strong, solid, and clean people with a realistic vision will carry the day if the new constitution takes effect. Tribal arithmetic will die.
Mr Nyatete is a graduate student at the University of Melbourne, Australia.


      

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From gachanjajamu at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  9 03:14:27 2009
From: gachanjajamu at yahoo.com (james murithi)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:14:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] UNEMPLOYED GRADUATE
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UNEMPLOYED GRADUATE:

An unemployed graduate woke up one morning and checked his pocket. All he had left was $10. He decided to use it to buy food and then wait for death as he was too proud to go begging. He was frustrated as he could find no job, and nobody was ready to help him. 

He bought food and as he sat down to eat, an old man and two little children came along and asked him to help them with food as they had not eaten for almost a week. He 
looked at them. They were so lean that he could see their bones coming out. Their eyes had gone into the socket. With the last bit of compassion he had, he gave them the food. The old man and children prayed that God would bless and prosper him and then gave him a very old coin. The young graduate said to them 'you need the prayer more than I do'.

With no money, no job, no food, the young graduate went under the bridge to rest and wait for death. As he was about to sleep, he saw an old newspaper on the ground. He picked it up, and suddenly he saw an advertisement for people with old coins to come to a certain address. 


He decided to go there with the old coin the old man gave him. On getting to the place, he gave the proprietor the coin. The proprietor screamed, brought out a big book and showed the young graduate a photograph. This same old coin was worth 3 million dollars. The young graduate was overjoyed as the proprietor gave him a bank draft for 3 million dollars within an hour. He collected the Bank Draft and went in search of the old man and little children. 

By the time he got to where he left them eating, they had gone. He asked the owner of the canteen if he knew them. He said no but they left a note for you. He quickly opened the note thinking it would lead him to find them. 

This is what the note said: 'You gave us your all and we have rewarded you back with the coin,' signed God the Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost. 1 Kings 17:10-16; Matthew 11:28-30 

PRAYER:
Here is your financial blessing! It's a simple prayer, you've got 30 seconds. If you need a financial blessing,continue reading this e-mail.

Heavenly Father, most Gracious and Loving God, I pray to you that you abundantly Bless my family and me. I know that you recognize, that a family is more than just a mother, father, sister, brother husband and wife, but all Who believe a nd trust in you. 

Father, I send up a prayer request for financial blessing for not only the person who sent this to me, but for Me and all that I have forwarded this message on to. And that the power of joined prayer by those who believe and trust in you is more powerful than anything. 

I thank you in advance for your blessings.
Father God, deliver the person reading this right now and those who will read it in the near future from debt and debt burdens. Release your Godly wisdom that I may be a good steward over all that You have given me Father, for I know how wonderful and mighty You are and how if we just obey You and walk in Your word and have the faith of a Mustard seed that You will pour out blessings. 
I thank You now Lord for the recent blessings I have received and for the blessings yet to come Because I know You are not done with me yet.
In Jesus name, I pray, 
Amen


      

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From mariamjuma83 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  9 03:14:46 2009
From: mariamjuma83 at yahoo.com (Mariam Juma)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:14:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Looking for Private Tuition (KCSE preparation)
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Is there a place that or a way that a private KCSE candidate can get Tuition// apart from enrolling in a school?
I have a family member in Nyeri who wants to seat her KCSE exams next year. Due to some problems, she dropped out in 4th form 3years ago and would like to get tuition and seat for her KCSE exams next year (2010).

Please advice of any private tuition options available for such one desperate kenyan who wants to pick up her life again.

Mariam


      

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From mariamjuma83 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  9 03:29:22 2009
From: mariamjuma83 at yahoo.com (Mariam Juma)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:29:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Looking for a sq-/bedseater) Langata/ngumo area
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Dear All,

I am looking for an SQ or Bedseater around Langata/ngong road/Ngumo area.

My budget is 6000K. Can anyone help me pleaase? If I can get this in January, I would appreciate.

Mariam


      

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From pepity at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  9 05:01:08 2009
From: pepity at yahoo.com (Janet mafunga)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 02:01:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Tiger Woods
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Message-ID: <573513.76140.qm@web32006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Rehanah, I think you are the one who missed out on the news last night. It was indeed his mother in law who had stomach problems and had to be rushed to hospital. 


--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Rehanah Mohammed <reeh_moha at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Rehanah Mohammed <reeh_moha at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Tiger Woods
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 9:44 AM







What mother in law are you talking about? Do you guys read news????????
?

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/631528/Tiger-had-me-in-the-rough-Mindy-Lawtons-frantic-sex-with-Tiger-Woods.html
?
?


?






From: Abraham Birech <akbirech at gmail.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 8:59:29 AM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Tiger Woods

It was his mother-in law


On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Tigeress <lizamwayi at gmail.com> wrote:

Poor guy... Gosh you cant even take someone (your rela, house help or wife) to hospital in peace? I think he should relocate to Kenya he would be like any other "nyeuthi" and if Kenyans cant even recognize Bill Gates in a chemist... I think its the perfect hide out.. 





On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Mr Samwel kumba <samkumba at yahoo.com> wrote:






An unidentified woman has been transported from Tiger Woods' Florida? home to the hospital by ambulance, WESH-TV reports. 
? 
The station says Orange County firefigjters responded to a medical call at the golfer's home eat 2:36 a.m. today. 
? 
WESH says video shows a middle-aged woman being taken from an ambulance on a stretcher at the hospital's emerenchy engtrance. 
? 
WESH says that a radio log shows that the patient initally refused to be transported by was later listed as an advanced life support patient. 
? 
Click here for the report. 
? 
Update at 7:14 am. ET:? The Orlando Sentinel reports that Orange County Fire Rescue spokeswoman Genevieve Latham confirmed that firefighters responded to a call at the Woods address. 
? 
Latham said it was a "medical call" and that? the patient "refused to be transported to the hospital," the newspaper reports. 
? 
Latham said there was no indication that rescue crews took anyone to the hospital, despite some news reports, the paper says. 
? 
Update 7:18 a.m. ET: The newspaper says a report by WFTV shows that a Cadillac Escalade, similar to the vehicle Woods had crashed outside his home last week, appeared at Health Central Hospital in Ocoee shortly after the 911 call to his' home. 
? 
The Sentinel says the tag number on the vehicle is similar to the one on Woods' car, as reported in the Florida Highway Patrol's crash report last week. 
? 
Update at 7:24 a.m. ET: WFTV quotes witnesses as saying that? an "attractive blonde woman who looked similar to Tiger's wife Elin" was driving the vehicle. It says the license plate on the Escalade was only one character difference from the car involved in the crash. 
? 
Update at 8 a.m. ET: The Orlando Sentinel reports that Latham has? revised her earlier statement and confirms that official records now show that someone was, in fact, taken to the hospital from the Woods' residence. 
? 
Latham is quoted by the newspaper as saying information was initially incorrectly logged into the reporting system indicating that no one had been transported, but that that has now been fixed. 
? 
"The command center made an error," Latham is quoted by the paper as saying. "The information was put in backward. Rescue crews did transport a patient to the hospital." 
? 
Ess Kay Kay





























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From maryanne.chege at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 05:49:44 2009
From: maryanne.chege at gmail.com (maryanne chege)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:49:44 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] BULK SMS SERVICE
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Hey Eliud, Yes, we  offer  this service.Feel free to contact Me  on
 020-3754286/0722166177- WWW.MANGO.CO.KE

Regards,

Maryanne Chege

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Eliud Nkunja <nkunja at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi, do you know someone who offers bulk sms service?
>
> Eliud
>
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From bella231 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 05:45:17 2009
From: bella231 at gmail.com (Belinda Keitany)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:45:17 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Fwd: FW: MERRY CHRISTMAS
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enjoy the forthcoming festive season...

Let me hope am the first to wish u a happi x-mas. Stay cool in the next
year.



(Please open the attached gift)







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From gachanjajamu at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 06:14:52 2009
From: gachanjajamu at yahoo.com (james murithi)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 03:14:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Prayer
Message-ID: <124266.84548.qm@web35805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



PRAYER
God has a plan and purpose for each and every one of His precious children. Some people live their entire lives without discovering this purpose. They live by guess work. They try one thing, if it doesn?t work out, they move onto another. They live their lives based on trials and error. However, this kind of trial and error approach to life does not guarantee the kind of success that God promised in His word for His precious children
 
One way to connect with God?s divine plan is through prayer. Prayer is the door way to the spiritual realm. Most of us live our lives without realizing that there is a spiritual realm of existence which controls and determines the events which occurs in the natural realm. This unseen world created the seen world that we live in. If we want to make an impact in the natural, physical and seen world, we would first need toinstigate the process of change in the unseen, spiritual realm of existence through the instrumentality of prayer.
 
If you live by what you see alone you will always be at the mercy of circumstance and events. But if you tap into the supernatural power of God through prayer, you can determine what goes on into your live. It is only what you allow in the place of player that eventually manifests in your life and strategically position yourself in divine purpose.
 
Prayer generates power which strengthens us spiritually, emotionally, mentally and physically. It keeps us physically alert. You will always be aware of spiritual environment and all that goes on around you as long as you pray. Some people are unaware of what goes on in the environment. They live with negative spiritual forces which hinder them from making the kind of progress they desire in their lives, yet they do nothing about it because they are unaware. Curses, spells enchantments and all other negative forces hold sway in their lives because they are ignorant and spiritually blind. But God wants our eyes to open so we can have complete dominion over our environment and beyond. God want us to live in dominion, to be in control of our lives and environment. We have been given the authority to subdue and rule the environment. If you are not in dominion, you are not utilizing your God given authority.
 
Prayer keeps us in touch with the reality of our earthly assignment. This assignment is your God ordained purpose for living. When we have a grasp of this assignment and pursue it, we will be fulfilled in our innermost being. The reason why people are confused about their lives is that they are unclear about their reason for living. They stumble through life like a blind man in a maze. Science says that we can live for about seven days without food. We can live three days without water but we cannot live for a second without hope. We cannot live without a sense of purpose for our lives. Prayer gives you a strong sense of purpose for living. Also in the place of player you receive the direction you require to fulfill this purpose. Prayer opens your eyes to possibilities and opportunities which exist all around us.
 
You should realize that not all that glitters is gold. You should therefore pray about every business deal, decision or proposition you want to make. Pray before you agree to go out on a date with a beautiful woman you admire so much. Pray before you commit yourself to any project. There are many things we don?t see physically but in the place of prayer, God reveals the traps and snares the enemy has set in our paths and delivers us from them. Prayer empowers you to live your life the way God intended you to live: in dominion.  
 
 This is a chapter in Praise George?s book ?Wisdom for single men? 
 
Have a prayerful day 


      

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From victornjenga at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 05:12:40 2009
From: victornjenga at gmail.com (Victor Njenga)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:12:40 +0000
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Wedding rings
Message-ID: <ebd6f770912090212o27db3ebck901cb5c0f1555f0b@mail.gmail.com>

Dear YPs, where can one buy gold wedding rings at a fair price (10k) ?
 Thanx  Victor

On 12/9/09, Ibrahim karani <ibrahim.karani78 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Recently I asked why I should be charged 5 or 10 shillings to photocopy my
> I/D.Some said that it is because 2sides are photocopied.others said that the
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>
> And now why should i be charged 50 or 40 shillings to scan a passport photo?
>
> Ibrahim
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From bigavala at aol.com  Tue Dec  8 20:19:44 2009
From: bigavala at aol.com (bigavala at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:19:44 -0500
Subject: [Jambo] A MESSAGE FROM KACA EMERGENCY COMMITTEE TO KEA-NJ
	MEMBERS Out of order.
In-Reply-To: <73769.35681.qm@web113508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CC4684D2E13FD6-4760-239D2@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com>


Bwana Omare,
Thanks for reminding me that we have a secretary but that is not you.
You are an acting Coordinator and currently imposed secretary. You have been withholding information and that is not the secretary's job. You are claiming to be the secretary but I would like you to know that you are just a candidate.
I think you are being arrogant and a power grabber.
I'm not engaging in communication war but enlightening you on dealing with public entities. Do not fight a battle for others but be truthful and kind of professional. Defend what is defensible, I want to see how you are handling the deficit issue yet you do not want to sit and listen to the auditors report.
By the way the constitution does not give you the power to block information flow. I hope you have read it in readiness for your term of office for responsibilities overlap and if you fail the organization someone will save the situation. You are setting this up for an uphill start with such arrogance.
Thanks for the acknowledging that I was there from the beginning But change is inevitable. Sorry if you do not get things your way.
Remember, since you avoided listening to the audit report last time it does not mean that members should be left in the dark. KEA-NJ members need to know that we have a deficit and some of their money is missing on record. Know that the organization is for members and not for the leaders only. You are completely out of order in claiming that all information should be sifted and controlled by the secretary. Currently you are not that Secretary. Be Realistic and work for the rest of the members and not an individual for the days of godfathers are not so flashy in this century.
Next time do not refuse to send out an email when we need a meeting to find out who is responsible for the deficit. You need to be part of the battle to know where the money went to just like any good member unless otherwise. If you want something to do am requesting that we have a meeting this Thursday with all the people the chairman said need to be looked at. Remember your name was mentioned in the meeting. lets sort this as soon as possible before election. Just be ware that the chairman promised us that he was going to have a meeting with all those people who may know where the deficit came from including you. This was to happen before election for transparency and accountability.
Please call this meeting as secretary to be as soon as possible.
Thanks for your cooperation and boldness on this matter..
Barasa



-----Original Message-----
From: DOmare <mwomare at yahoo.com>
To: bigavala at aol.com; Douglas Bonuke <dbonuke at hotmail.com>; maburis at aol.com; Geoffrey Keroti <gkeroti at yahoo.com>; Momanyian at yahoo.com; N500.1 at netzero.net; manoti L. <Rmanoti at yahoo.com>; Alice Nyakora <nyakoraalice at yahoo.com>; Hellen Nyamiaka <hnjeter at gmail.com>
Cc: Tom Mogaka <Tomogaka at yahoo.com>; Wilfredasiago at yahoo.com; Me <mwomare at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: A MESSAGE FROM KACA EMERGENCY COMMITTEE TO KEA-NJ MEMBERS Out of order.


Sir,
et me remind you that KEA-NJ has a secretary. That is the same person who has 
een taking minutes in all board meetings you have attended. It is strange that 
n this email you call yourself the KEA Public Relations director and yet you 
laim that it is election time therefore there is no secretary. I think it is in 
ad taste. 
 do not intend to engage in internet PR wars. Elections are coming and the 
embers will decide. History will judge us at the end of the day. And by the 
ay, if you want to reach the members, you still need to communicate with them 
hrough the secretary. That is what the constitution says and you were among the 
roup that wrote it. At least that is what I know.
mare

-- On Tue, 12/8/09, bigavala at aol.com <bigavala at aol.com> wrote:
> From: bigavala at aol.com <bigavala at aol.com>
 Subject: Re: A MESSAGE FROM KACA EMERGENCY COMMITTEE TO KEA-NJ MEMBERS Out of 
rder.
 To: mwomare at yahoo.com, kea at kaca-nj.org, KACA at yahoogroups.com, 
ambo at publiceyesite.org
 Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 3:47 PM
 
 This Is KEA-NJ election time and currently we do not
 have an active KEA secretary until after elections and
 someone is sworn in. Nobody has the moral authority to
 threaten any member with orders of who has power. 
 
 
 As it stands now KACA Emergency committee job is to
 run the election and not to protect any particular
 candidate.
 
 
 Elections are about issues and as it stands in KEA we
 have a deficit and it is public knowledge because all
 members were given a chance to listen to the audit report
 and copies were given out.
 
 
 The deficit is a reality  as far as I can tell
 from the records handed out.
 
 
 WE can not hide such a hot issue so that elections can
 be swayed differently.
 
 
 When there is a money issue its the right of all
 members to know.
 
 
 The truth is always bitter but we have to face it.
 Intimidations and calls to people with complains should not
 be priority. 
 
 
 The priority is an explanation of how the deficit came
 about and who is responsible. We should not pass the blame
 by focusing on other things.
 
 
 As A KEA NJ member , I have the moral authority to
 question how the deficit came about when we had custodians
 fro the money.
 
 
 Who was responsible for the account and who released
 money?
 
 
 We agreed in the meeting to call all those people
 named to sort out the matter before election but the normal
 tricks were used to block the meeting until after the
 election. The fact is that we saw a deficit and someone
 holds the answer.
 
 
 We can not ignore the truth about the presence of a
 deficit.
 
 
 As a Public Relations Director I have to relate to
 members who were not in the meeting what is happening. That
 is my job and if anybody wants to block information they
 will fail miserably.
 
 
 KACA-Emergency committee, please do not meddle in
 KEA-NJ internal matters your job is totally different from
 defending certain candidates who owe members an explanation
 of how they will govern. If there 
 
 
 If there are speculations they still need answers and
 avoiding will not solve it.
 
 
 KEA-NJ members need to know that there is a deficit
 and that is currently in KEA-NJ official records of the
 Internal Auditor. Those members who do not have a copy can
 request one to see it in black and
 white. Investigations are matters of another day.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -----Original
 Message-----
 
 From: DOmare <mwomare at yahoo.com>
 
 To: Haronmogire at yahoo.com; Mbakaya at mail.com;
 Abelmoranga at msn.com; Mokuaorangi at hotmail.com;
 Osorojackie29 at yahoo.com; Bwaris at yahoo.com;
 Vlynongori at yahoo.com; Nancyododa at netscape.net;
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 Kennmokaya at yahoo.com; Nageryt at yahoo.co.uk;
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 Nyamwembe at yahoo.com; Zmasira at yahoo.com;
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 Wilfredasiago at yahoo.com; Graceasiago2000 at yahoo.com;
 Walkems1 at verizon.net; Kinarosospeter at yahoo.com;
 Nazzi2003 at yahoo.com; Kimko65 at msn.com; Kemija at comcast.net;
 Bmigosi at aol.com; Obare6866 at aol.com; Ombati32 at yahoo.com;
 Pondande at yahoo.com; A.Nyaboga at worldnet.att.net;
 Nyabogaa at wpunj.edu; Paulahpilly at yahoo.co.uk;
 Judynyanchama at yahoo.com; Patmise at hotmail.com;
 Paulondari at comcast.net; Challmolly at aol.com;
 Kmecheo at gmail.com; Maryongaro at hotmail.com;
 Ambeyi.dee at juno.com; Fogada01 at yahoo.com;
 Jogorous2004 at yahoo.com; Cndege at c5.com;
 Ekerubo2001 at yahoo.com; Ongeriaminga at hotmail.com;
 Bigavala at aol.com; Vgimali at yahoo.com; Nyonyakeh at yahoo.com;
 Dogega at yahoo.com; Gcamerrajr at aol.com; Kkiguru at aol.com;
 Ptuju at yahoo.co.uk; Bmakori at gmail.com; Dmose90258 at aol.com;
 Benbosire at hotmail.com; Romeke83 at yahoo.com;
 Georgeomburo at yahoo.com; Katuju91 at yahoo.com;
 Majordanmok at yahoo.com; mwomare at yahoo.com; Douglas Bonuke
 <dbonuke at hotmail.com>; Hellen Nyamiaka
 <hnjeter at gmail.com>; Geoffrey Keroti
 <gkeroti at yahoo.com>
 
 Cc: Tom Mogaka <Tomogaka at yahoo.com>;
 Wilfredasiago at yahoo.com; maburis at aol.com; D. Omare
 <mwomare at yahoo.com>
 
 Sent: Tue, Dec 8, 2009 12:58 pm
 
 Subject: Fw: A MESSAGE FROM KACA EMERGENCY COMMITTEE TO
 KEA-NJ MEMBERS
 
 
 
 
 
  Please read the forwarded email
 below.
  Also be advised that the KEA secretary is the officially
 authorized 
 communicator of the organization. All KACA Emm. Comm.
 communications are sent to 
 you via the secretary (just like the one below) as has been
 the case in the 
 past.
 Thanks
 D.Omare 
 
 --- On Tue, 12/8/09, TOM MOGAKA <tomogaka at yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 
 > From: TOM MOGAKA <tomogaka at yahoo.com>
 > Subject: 
 > To: "DOmare" <mwomare at yahoo.com>
 > Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 4:57 AM
 > 
 > Mr. Omare, please forward this email to all members.
 > 
 > 
 > KEA members:
 > It has come to the chair's attention that some
 members are
 > issuing statements and making accusations on issues
 related
 > to KEA monies. No one has a moral authority to write
 or
 > issue such statements on pending issues. Nothing can
 be
 > substantiated at this time since investigations are
 ongoing
 > and incomplete. Until such a time when a final audit
 report
 > is compiled released, I will advise that all emails or
 > statements issued to the public by some members be
 ignored
 > and disregarded.
 > 
 > 
 > Thank you
 > 
 > Tom Mogaka- Chairman- KACA Emergency Committee 
 > 
 > 
 >       
 > 
 
 
       
 
 
 
 

     

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From annixo at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Dec  9 06:20:21 2009
From: annixo at yahoo.co.uk (anne okoth)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:20:21 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] NEED INTERNET CONNECTION
In-Reply-To: <23207d9b0912090103y153df56j6e0e014346b03179@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <635859.50143.qm@web26703.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Hi Daniel
Try Africa online they are reliable and very cheap compared to others.
Anne

--- On Wed, 9/12/09, Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Dan Nyutu <denyutu at gmail.com>
Subject: [YP_Ke] NEED INTERNET CONNECTION
To: "youngprofessionals_ke" <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, 9 December, 2009, 3:03



A Food Processing Factory in Industrial Area is in need of an excellent and stable internet connection at a fair price. In addition to the server, there are around 10 computers.


Any leads?


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From annixo at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Dec  9 07:02:48 2009
From: annixo at yahoo.co.uk (anne okoth)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:02:48 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Memorable n funny X-mas experiences-share
In-Reply-To: <001401ca7908$43d39740$5e00a8c0@Maryleen>
Message-ID: <660568.68778.qm@web26708.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Hi Guys
?
Mine is kind of funny...being chrismas, I was given 200 for my treat and 20 for the 'sadaka' at our local church.? The excitement of new clothes, shoes and the famous 'mosodo' hair style with very bright ribbons on my hair....got me alittle bit confused.? As the ushers passed the sadaka bag I cheerfully put my share knowing that it will please God for it was not the normal 50 cents...only to discover a minute later that I had given out my precious 200 bob!!!? I rushed to the lady and demanded my?200 in exchange of the 20 only to be told that it had already gone to God...dismayed I loudly cried out the God was aware that I was suppose to give Him the 20 and not my 200, the whole thing brought confusion in church and know what?? I was called at the alter and given a new 500 note!!! Ooh Chrismas!
?
Anne-Leila


--- On Wed, 9/12/09, Maryleen <maryleen at pelum.net> wrote:


From: Maryleen <maryleen at pelum.net>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Memorable n funny X-mas experiences-share
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 9 December, 2009, 13:46





You've made my day!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tigeress 
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:54 AM
Subject: [YP_Ke] Memorable n funny X-mas experiences-share

Hi,? 


As the holidays approach, lets recap, reminisce and have a chuckle about past holidays...?


1.One X-mas, we had visitors, family friends, ?the father of this family had taken so much alcohol before he came home, and he still continued taking it at our place, he blacked out on the sofa.. and peed on it... the smell hmmm.... even the urinal of "hura kanua (wipe your mouth) Bar smells better... ( if you remember the brown n black "leather" sofas that our parents used to have).... every day we would take that seat out in the sun to dry for like 2 weeks... it took several months for the smell and the patch to disappear..


2. When I started working, I decided I would surprise my parents, every time they called to ask me if I am going home for X-mas, I would say no... ?So on the actual X-mas day, I travelled early in the morning, with my X-mas "shopping" ready to cook for the family some nice holiday recipes....I was at home by 10.00 a.m. Haiya, no-one was at home! The only?neighbor?I found told me they were in church, I dashed there, only to be told church ended at 11.00... I thought maybe they were in the shopping?center?they would turn up after an hour or so..I decided to wait for them at home. They arrived at 10.00 p.m.! I was so cold waiting outside,I didn't have the keys... and I could not imagine knocking at my neighbours on X-mas day.. Only to be told they had gone to my ?grandfather had insisted on inviting all his sons and daughters... Yes, this was before cellphones became very popular! No more holiday surprises!?




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Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] The Draft In Luhya is attached
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From jbatec at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  9 09:03:02 2009
From: jbatec at yahoo.com (Judy Miriga)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 06:03:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: An Open Letter to PM Raila
Message-ID: <319746.21028.qm@web57305.mail.re1.yahoo.com>





?

Peter et all,
?
I have ignored all other responses because, after reading, I saw a lot of immaturity and ignorance in the state of your reasoning and I thought I need to give you folks time to grow.?I begin to understand that all you are playing here in your critics is not objectionable conversation that would trigger way forward to achieve political millage to progress but sycophancy is a sign of naivety (a state of not knowing and not being informed).? 
? 
Firstly, you must understand that politics is not a fare-play or fallacy, it is a serious job that require deliverance to public, therefore, the road to delivery must be clear and concise.? There is no politics without public development and there is no public development without politics.? Politics is the vehicle at which we all must achieve our desired goals in life.?There is a way politics must be conducted for popular gains, and that?s the way to develop a Country not for a secular or sectional gains.?This is the only way to create a lasting peaceful solution and love amongst the Citizenry of a Nation.?If you go the popular way, your Leadership and Country remain strong and progressive. There will be a conducive environment for competiton to achieve goals in life. 
? 
Secondly, I have a full time job, and this is my full time job - you can very well see how busy I get. PM Raila is the Leader presently. I know PM Raila very well better than the yappy folks, critics makes him alert and stronger and any Leader worth his salt must be a Leader of substance which PM is capable of acquiring only if he open himself to critics and pays attention to advice and be a good listener slow to respond. That does not mean weakness. This is why we stand to point out issues that we are concerned about either publicly or privately, reasons that politics is a public affair. He should be able to consult widely before he makes comments.? He has bigger responsibilities so he has more advisors of different specialties. I will not butter PM Raila because he does not need yappy folks back-up in fulfilling his ambition, he knows that very well.? The yappy folks should not imagine they have a score here. They should get it right that I am
 stepping in for a wise counsel not propaganda and not because I want to be considered for a job, but if that is the case, what would the yappy folks do if I have to get appointed? Peter with those in like minds, cannot stop my being appointed incase I have to, so what?s the hullaballoo for.? I am not the ?Jonny-Come-Late? and incase there is need for a position, I deserve to be appointed because I toiled and worked hard for it since 1990, though the time is not now.? There is a lot of ground work to be done and plenty of volunteer jobs people should get involved to secure the Kenya we all want. 
? 
Thirdly, I do not need favour of a job in this kind of messy and confused government system of irrelevancy with no focus or direction. I want to help the system to be operational and functional and because of my informed capability, I decided to educate the masses for free stay out of active mainstream politics and play politics of advice and direction in sensitization and mobilizing in essence.? So people like you can have a chance to be educated. 
? 
This last bit?of your comment compelled me to respond so you know that you and your bashing friends could have had ?Maziwa ya Nyayo? done effect to your brains.? You have to be careful and watch that your brains were not affected by "Maziwa ya Nyayo" the free Primary Education Milk that was?offered then?by former President Moi as an incentive to gain energy while at school.? I have reason to worry because, I have noticed commonplace conditional defects requiring urgent attention.? However, considering what I have said above, I have the following to add:- 
? 
A)???? I have come a long way with Kenya's politics, if it were position I need, I would have?acquired that long time during the late Jaramogi Oginga's time. I was?one of his favorites women in politics and again I am not bragging, and those who were bashing me during those days were told off to "We na uru nya Mombasa na no mos"? - it was not that there were no bashing then or that there were no critics, but he saw some potential and believed in me, he therefore did not let the Young Turks then, to mess with me.? 
? 
I saw there were no conducive climate to allow infusion of my advice, how to go about things to develop and improve Kenya through Civil Society and other NGOs development program Agenda and how Civil Society can work together with the Government in partnership to achieve National Growth in Financial Development.? Things fall apart and became worse as time went by.....we do not want to loose valuable time this time round because we are in critical economic crisis and things must be done right the first time since there will be no other second chance. 
? 
I am a leader by my own rights.? Being the inside player in politics, I saw, after election of 1992, Jaramogi won, Moi turned?tables on Jaramogi so he technically lost.? Moi was truly a professor of?political?distortion and distraught, divide and rule,?which caused the final straw collapse of Kenya. He based his politics on?lies and cheats.? He played?Jaramogi?smart,?dented Ford through his maneuvers,?although very sick Matiba?was lured,?he?came in and?raffled feathers?and completely destroyed unity?in Ford.? Matiba caused?the immediate collapse?and death of FORD.? Confusion set in and?that was the?beginning of all hell went loose in Kenya.? I am giving you this episode so you know I am not a freshman in politics of Kenya.? I have been there and I have done it.? But that is not my style.?The Ruto way of politics with Uhuru, Balala and Kalonzo is a repetition of Matiba?s style during Jaramogi?s time with Moi and I believe
 Ruto is playing childish tantrums he must stop to divagate. 
? 
B)???? I must remind you that, taxes are public money.? I have the right to indulge in Kenya issues that involve taxes though I do not live in Kenya but because of natural automatic dual interest, I have a say.? First, I pay tax in America and I complete my tax returns every years.? I participate in America?s National building.? I buy food, pay rent, drive a car and all these contribute in my paying taxes to the Government one way or the other. I therefore have a say as a tax payer and a Citizen of America who wish to want to know and desire to demand how our Tax money is utilized.? I have families, relatives and friends in Kenya whom I send money for up-keep and therefore I have interest and the right to question to want to know and participate in all matters of tax-payer public money utility. It is therefore my Human Right Concern when the public money is carelessly squandered and utilized without due consideration and concern and at the
 same time stolen for private interest.? Leaders who don?t take public matters or interest seriously are failing somewhere in their jurisdiction. Consequently, I have not cheapen low to be a chicken to your critics.? 
? 
C)???? I am a custodian of my destiny both in America and in Kenya?..I therefore do not make noise, I deliberate and contribute how best I wish to be governed through opinion or idea sharing.? I have Kenya?s interest at heart and would not wish it goes to the dogs.? I will make noise because I do not wish and on behalf of many, I intercede for them all so we do not go back to Misri?..This is a true calling brothers and sisters, try and get even. Find yourselves some Volunteer Commissioning assignment so you get involve in creating the Kenya we all want.? Building Kenya is each and everyone participating in the best way they know how. 
? 
God Bless you all. 
? 
? 
Cheers!


? 
Judy Miriga 
Diaspora Spokesperson 
Executive Director 
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc., 
USA 
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com
?
? 
?

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Breigner <peter.osotsi at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Breigner <peter.osotsi at gmail.com>
Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: An Open Letter to PM Raila
To: "youngprofessionals_ke" <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 4:49 AM


Wash;

All im saying is, she should be objective and remove the whining bit.
It kills the argument when all she does is complain about everyone. We
are not angels, we are earthlings. None of us is perfect thro our
scale, leave alone Gods, however much we try. We will always be
imperfect. They say keep one eye closed, and one eye open, and work as
if you are the only one working hard. But don't just sit there looking
and whining about peoples issues, serializing. They tire.

Judy has serious arguments but they end up in sensationalism,
generalization and whining. If she ends up in this very thieving
group, I bet 100% she will behave the same way like Ababu Amwamba. I
have seen this before. It's a tactic used to get a prominent
appointment.

Kenfish

On Dec 9, 9:38?am, Odhiambo Washington <odhia... at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Hargwings Omondi <homo... at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Oh I thought I was the only one getting tired of this! I find it amusing
> > for a Kenyan NOT in Kenya to complain and but give no solutions. Kwani Judy
> > is running an NGO that is funded to complain?
>
> Are the issues raised by Judy genuine or not? I think that's the way we
> should be looking at them. Put aside the person for a moment. Look at the
> issues.
>
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From: PubliceyeT at aol.com (PubliceyeT at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:16:12 EST
Subject: [Jambo] Public Eye Group News: Commentary:Religion: Death
	Announcement
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Kenya police recover cache of weapons
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8160_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8160) 
 
Death Announcement Of Mary Omariba
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8157_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8157)  
Death Announcement Of Paulina Nyangara Orango
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8154_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8154)  
Father killed saving son from hyena
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8152_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8152)  
Religion: The Church Today Lacks Fire
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8149_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8149)  
KEA-NJ ELECTION.
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8147_ 
(http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8147)  
He Has Never Been A Mulism or Terrorist/ Help Raise Money For Legal  
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_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8143_ 
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New Zealand man injects sleeping wife with HIV
_http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=8141_ 
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Christmas Day morning service
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From esther at ho.kingswaytyres.com  Wed Dec  9 06:56:15 2009
From: esther at ho.kingswaytyres.com (esther at ho.kingswaytyres.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:56:15 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Wedding rings
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HI Victor,
Visit Nagin pattin shops in Nairobi if at all u in Nai.. any of their
branches especially the one near koja roundabout along river road.
It will depend with the carats you want and I'm sure your budget of 10K will
fit.all the best.
They are so professional with their work...check them.

Esther.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:13 PM
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Subject: [YP_Ke] Wedding rings

Dear YPs, where can one buy gold wedding rings at a fair price (10k) ?
 Thanx  Victor

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>
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From bonimachau at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 09:58:35 2009
From: bonimachau at gmail.com (Boniface Machau)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:58:35 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] NEED INTERNET CONNECTION
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Hi.
The best internet service provider is Telkom. This is because all of kenyas
Internet Backbone is supported by Telkom Kenya. Therefore go for them i have
direct contacts for some of the involved. Also for the networking of the
computers and any other comp related stuff, do not hesitate to call or
contact back.

Kind regard
Boni

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>
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>
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From bonimachau at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 10:03:29 2009
From: bonimachau at gmail.com (Boniface Machau)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:03:29 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] BULK SMS SERVICE
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Hi, Eliud.
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visit our website on www.bolem.net.
Regards
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>
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From kioko at franktax.com  Wed Dec  9 12:37:06 2009
From: kioko at franktax.com (Francis Kioko)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:37:06 -0500
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] The Role Diasporians can play to make Kenya
	good country
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Gibson,

Well said Men! We need each other and we need to exchange ideas and not
allow us to be caught up in petty politics which take us nowhere. We will
never think the same or support the same politicians but we can agree on the
issues that affect both us and embrace the beauty of diversity for our
common good. If any of Raila, Kalonzo, Kibaki or whoever messes up lets all
tell them they have messed and need to rectify the mess. I think that is
what Judy is saying, Raila is nolonger the same guy we elected, he has
either changed or was never serious in his campaign promises. Being honest
with each other is the way forward. WE MUST AGREE TO KILL TRIBALISM BY ALL
MEANS and PREACH UNITY AMONG ALL KENYANS after all when these politicians
mess up we all suffer regardless of our political affiliations....BE SMART
PEOPLE and lets agree to change Kenya forever for our common good.
Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
[mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of amenya gibson
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:03 AM
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Subject: [YP_Ke] The Role Diasporians can play to make Kenya good country

I will say maybe Judy is getting concerned as a Kenyan when she feels
all is not well and she  is voicing it out
Her call is  perhaps for us to start thinking  ways to make Kenya move
ahead and attain vision 2030 via engaging all inside Kenya and outside
too
Those is abroad have a great role to model us to be their
brothers/sisters keeper here in Kenya

Am aware when one lives outside Kenya, as Kenyans they will try as
much as possible to defend Kenya out there
This is same predicament I faced when I was asked by a pal in abroad
that Kenyans just like cutting people head/chop chop and also if not
careful in Nairobi you will be robbed in broad daylight.Those are
remarks that maybe are making Judy get annoyed and tries to tell us
hey we have to change abc .

As watu wa majuu -Kenya in Diaspora
Try to look at best practices in UK.USA etc then pass them to us we
can localized them to make Kenya more forward
How can we improve Kenya transport network,water system,peace and
unity,sports
I know when we unite Kenya can overtake others in terms of
political,social,and economical developments
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From luo31 at hotmail.com  Wed Dec  9 14:30:08 2009
From: luo31 at hotmail.com (barack abonyo)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:30:08 +0000
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] An Open Letter to PM Raila: JUDY MIRIGA IS RIGHT,
	$900 PER 	DAY IS TOO MUCH
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Ladies and Gentlemen

Let me tell you guys something about lady Judy because I have met her in person during a politically charged atmosphere. I cannot forget that day. It was very cold in Washington DC. I had driven all the way from Florida to protest 2007 stolen election at the Kenyan Embassy and United States State Department. There were many people. Some I knew some I did not.  Me and my Associates were not aware that there were other organizers but as you know word travels through the internet. Well we were disorganized and organized because one group did not know the other group. Judy belonged to one group and I belonged to the other. My group chose Alphonse Omondi of Philadelphia to be incharge the other group chose Judy.

 

Judy is almost the age of my mother but in her I saw a heart of a young warrior. She and Omondi were our incharges. Judy pushed the embassy door like a young lady but Ogego refused to talk to us although later on me and Omondi sneaked in only to be ejected by the security. Later that day with Judy and Omondi as our incharge we went to the State department and had an audience with the state reperesentative. We had along chain of demonstrators. Okoa spoke on our behalf. Through Judy and Omondi we handed over our two written petitions. Our issue was that Kibaki stole the election and the United States should not recognize him as president. Secondly we took issue with why the United States had already endorsed Kibaki as president and lastly we requested United States to be involved in solving the Kenyan problem. The next day Jandaya Frazer was dispatched to Kenya.

 

As you can see, Judy faught for the rights of Kenya and she achieved something. Fairness. He fought for Raila to be who he is now. Without United States, Raila could be rotting in jail somewhere opr in exile. Judy therefore has every right to tell Raila that he is wrong when he is. Indeed Raila was wrong in this case. Where on earth do you go to beg for money so that you can throw it to the sea and still claim sovereignity.  If you want to claim to be sovereign then dont go begging. Besides, $900 allowance per day, where on earth do people get that except in Kenya. Kenyans should be outraged instead of looking at the type of english Judy wrote. Why are Kenyans so much dissolutioned. $900 per day for 10 days for 60 people who in my view are going just to visit Germany. If you look closely you may find out many of them are relatives of the people in the government. How is this diffrerent form Moi's Government when Nyiva Mwendwa went with her hair dresser for an overseas trip. This is unjustifiable, travesity, impunity and at worse insulting the people of Kenya intelligence. This should be one very good reason why Kenyans should take to the streets. How come you cannot settle 2000 poor people but you can give an rich  individual over $900 per day with hotel expences paid for 10 days. I have travelled enough to know that a Kenyan cannot dare pay $300 for breakfast, $300 lunch and  $300 for dinner unless it is a life and death situtaion, even $50 per meal for a Kenyan is too much. Even US senators the richest country in the world do not get that. 

 

It is amazing Raila was supporting this and when Judy who worked very hard for Raila questioned this, some headless chickens following their stomach pounced on her because she wrote poor english. Sirs, correct the english but also dare tell your king that he is naked. That is what Judy did. Judy has worked so hard for this course. She has every right to straighten it.

Yours Sincerely

Dr. Barack Otieno Abonyo

 

 


Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:50:40 -0800
From: yasabu_yasabu at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: An Open Letter to PM Raila
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com





Odhi
 
thumbs high for sis judy, the points she raised regards the P.M has merits and should be supported by all pple who love to see kenya prosper, during 2007, we did all we can and supported P.M believing that he will bring the desired change kenyans are yearning for, but unfortunately he has not measured upto our expectation. We have nothing personal regards the P.M, and we went all way using our vote and finance so support his leadership, and its unfortunate that its during this process that some lost their life. Just to enlighten , councils of imams were involved in accident from tour of LAMU, where they went to campaign for Raila during Dec 2007, and lost one of our imams, and chairman was in coma for more than two months, despite of all this sacrifice, Hon Raila locked them out during his visit to Msa last weekend, and even never bothered to visit Chairman Idris nor call him. 





From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
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Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 9:38:31 AM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: An Open Letter to PM Raila




On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Hargwings Omondi <homondi at gmail.com> wrote:

Oh I thought I was the only one getting tired of this! I find it amusing for a Kenyan NOT in Kenya to complain and but give no solutions. Kwani Judy is running an NGO that is funded to complain?



Are the issues raised by Judy genuine or not? I think that's the way we should be looking at them. Put aside the person for a moment. Look at the issues.


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From angaluki at aol.com  Wed Dec  9 22:41:09 2009
From: angaluki at aol.com (angaluki at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:41:09 -0500
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] The Role Diasporians can play to make Kenya
	good country
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Ndu Gibson,
 
As a Kenyan in the Diaspora, I'm still trying to know our sister Judy. I haven't met her in person and I don't know her personally. Judy seems to address key issues of concern to all of us Kenyans. However, Judy needs to know that people will judge her by more than just what she addresses in her contributions. She'll be judged by her attitude. She'll be judged by her credibility. She'll be judged by her language. When she calls herself the "Diaspora Spokesperson," Kenyans will want to know how she came to be a spokesperson for the Kenyan Diaspora and whether she is spokesperson for the Kenyan or African Diaspora, and I think this is a legitimate question that our sister ought to answer satisfactorily. Personally, when I see the name of her organization, "Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.," I think that it invites people to want to know more about its credibility. A good, credible corporate name is short (e.g. Uchumi, Windsor), and if it contains more than one word, the words are organized in good grammatical order to appropriately complement each other, like "Kenya National Cereals Board," or "Association of People Living with AIDS."  But, "Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.?" How do these nouns complement each other in this name and what does the name mean? Judy may not realize that the name of her organization is the first thing any reader of hers notices and may ultimately be her albatross.

Otherwise, you're right in your observations. We want to be part of our country and we want to contribute, together with our sisters and brothers in the country, to its development where we can and where we are allowed to. What I've noticed is that as you correctly observe, when I lived in my country, acts of corruption never bothered me. I saw them happen and it was none of my business. I saw cases of abuse of office, but I continued with my life. After seeing how cases of corruption and abuse of office are loathed and fiercely prosecuted in the US, I wonder how we as a country can overlook these vises when their impact on our development as a country is unmistakable! These are some of the areas in which I'd love to contribute by seeking ways of eradicating the vises from my country. I'd love to join hands with some of my sisters and brothers to initiate small scale investment projects that would help my people and country.

AM

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To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, Dec 9, 2009 5:03 am
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I will say maybe Judy is getting concerned as a Kenyan when she feels
ll is not well and she  is voicing it out
er call is  perhaps for us to start thinking  ways to make Kenya move
head and attain vision 2030 via engaging all inside Kenya and outside
oo
hose is abroad have a great role to model us to be their
rothers/sisters keeper here in Kenya
Am aware when one lives outside Kenya, as Kenyans they will try as
uch as possible to defend Kenya out there
his is same predicament I faced when I was asked by a pal in abroad
hat Kenyans just like cutting people head/chop chop and also if not
areful in Nairobi you will be robbed in broad daylight.Those are
emarks that maybe are making Judy get annoyed and tries to tell us
ey we have to change abc .
As watu wa majuu -Kenya in Diaspora
ry to look at best practices in UK.USA etc then pass them to us we
an localized them to make Kenya more forward
ow can we improve Kenya transport network,water system,peace and unity,sports
 know when we unite Kenya can overtake others in terms of
olitical,social,and economical developments
- 
hanks
ibson Amenya
nigma Consultants Kenya Limited
mail: gibson.amenya at enigma.or.ke
mail:info at enigma.or.ke
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From omtatah at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 10 01:31:02 2009
From: omtatah at yahoo.com (Okiya Omtatah Okoiti)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:31:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: [africa-oped] An Open Letter to PM Raila: JUDY
	MIRIGA IS RIGHT, $900 PER DAY IS TOO MUCH
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Barack,

Thanks for writing this:
This is unjustifiable, travesity, impunity and at worse insulting the
people of Kenya intelligence. This should be one very good reason why
Kenyans should take to the streets. How come you cannot settle 2000
poor people but you can give an rich  individual over $900 per day with
hotel expences paid for 10 days. I have travelled enough to know that a
Kenyan cannot dare pay $300 for breakfast, $300 lunch and  $300 for
dinner unless it is a life and death situtaion, even $50 per meal for a
Kenyan is too much. Even US senators the richest country in the world
do not get that.

Omtatah



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Ladies and Gentlemen
Let me tell you guys something about lady Judy because I have met her in person during a politically charged atmosphere. I cannot forget that day. It was very cold in Washington DC. I had driven all the way from Florida to protest 2007 stolen election at the Kenyan Embassy and United States State Department. There were many people. Some I knew some I did not.  Me and my Associates were not aware that there were other organizers but as you know word travels through the internet. Well we were disorganized and organized because one group did not know the other group. Judy belonged to one group and I belonged to the other. My group chose Alphonse Omondi of Philadelphia to be incharge the other group chose Judy.
 
Judy is almost the age of my mother but in her I saw a heart of a young warrior. She and Omondi were our incharges. Judy pushed the embassy door like a young lady but Ogego refused to talk to us although later on me and Omondi sneaked in only to be ejected by the security. Later that day with Judy and Omondi as our incharge we went to the State department and had an audience with the state reperesentative. We had along chain of demonstrators. Okoa spoke on our behalf. Through Judy and Omondi we handed over our two written petitions. Our issue was that Kibaki stole the election and the United States should not recognize him as president. Secondly we took issue with why the United States had already endorsed Kibaki as president and lastly we requested United States to be involved in solving the Kenyan problem. The next day Jandaya Frazer was dispatched to Kenya.
 
As you can see, Judy faught for the rights of Kenya and she achieved something. Fairness. He fought for Raila to be who he is now. Without United States, Raila could be rotting in jail somewhere opr in exile. Judy therefore has every right to tell Raila that he is wrong when he is. Indeed Raila was wrong in this case. Where on earth do you go to beg for money so that you can throw it to the sea and still claim sovereignity.  If you want to claim to be sovereign then dont go begging. Besides, $900 allowance per day, where on earth do people get that except in Kenya. Kenyans should be outraged instead of looking at the type of english Judy wrote. Why are Kenyans so much dissolutioned. $900 per day for 10 days for 60 people who in my view are going just to visit Germany. If you look closely you may find out many of them are relatives of the people in the government. How is this diffrerent form Moi's Government when Nyiva Mwendwa went with her hair dresser
 for an overseas trip. This is unjustifiable, travesity, impunity and at worse insulting the people of Kenya intelligence. This should be one very good reason why Kenyans should take to the streets. How come you cannot settle 2000 poor people but you can give an rich  individual over $900 per day with hotel expences paid for 10 days. I have travelled enough to know that a Kenyan cannot dare pay $300 for breakfast, $300 lunch and  $300 for dinner unless it is a life and death situtaion, even $50 per meal for a Kenyan is too much. Even US senators the richest country in the world do not get that. 
 
It is amazing Raila was supporting this and when Judy who worked very hard for Raila questioned this, some headless chickens following their stomach pounced on her because she wrote poor english. Sirs, correct the english but also dare tell your king that he is naked. That is what Judy did. Judy has worked so hard for this course. She has every right to straighten it.
Yours Sincerely
Dr. Barack Otieno Abonyo
 
 

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 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:50:40 -0800
From: yasabu_yasabu@ yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: An Open Letter to PM Raila
To: youngprofessionals_ ke at googlegroups. com


Odhi
 
thumbs high for sis judy, the points she raised regards the P.M has merits and should be supported by all pple who love to see kenya prosper, during 2007, we did all we can and supported P.M believing that he will bring the desired change kenyans are yearning for, but unfortunately he has not measured upto our expectation. We have nothing personal regards the P.M, and we went all way using our vote and finance so support his leadership, and its unfortunate that its during this process that some lost their life. Just to enlighten , councils of imams were involved in accident from tour of LAMU, where they went to campaign for Raila during Dec 2007, and lost one of our imams, and chairman was in coma for more than two months, despite of all this sacrifice, Hon Raila locked them out during his visit to Msa last weekend, and even never bothered to visit Chairman Idris nor call him. 




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On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Hargwings Omondi <homondi at gmail. com> wrote:

Oh I thought I was the only one getting tired of this! I find it amusing for a Kenyan NOT in Kenya to complain and but give no solutions. Kwani Judy is running an NGO that is funded to complain?
>

Are the issues raised by Judy genuine or not? I think that's the way we should be looking at them. Put aside the person for a moment. Look at the issues.

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From abierocarole at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 10 04:13:42 2009
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:13:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] How to celebrate christmas.
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HEHEHEEHHEE Joseph this is amazing, ati WHAT?


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Subject: [YP_Ke] How to celebrate christmas.


Christmas is an opportunity for us to indulge our senses with a good conscious. Just take it for granted that Jesus was born, in any case he never told anyone to celebrate his birth.
It is in that celebretory, hedonistic mood that I take this opportunity to encourage you to make it a merrier christmas. Deny yourself no happiness and fear not death for we all must die any way. some will scare you with talk of hell but have you seen hell yourself?
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From amosogal at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 04:51:42 2009
From: amosogal at gmail.com (Lee Makwiny)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:51:42 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND
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Koyiengo,

Tell them. I was arguing with a friend who come from Kalenjin community and
he was telling me how Raila is a bad man. I then asked him to tell me what
Raila has done that they think is wrong! He could not only telling me about
the little children in Mau, fine the children. In my village there are
people who are poor, and they are the majority. They can't affort food
whether you they are evicted or not. My parents were once like that, so i
decided to change that by working hard and I am able to feed them and
myself, take my kids for picnics, swimming, out etc. So what the people in
Mau need is someone who can motivate them. A leader like Peter Keneth who
can give them hope, they need someone who can help them start life after
Mau. I am telling that there are so many IDP who were compensated and they
drank all the money. The same will apply here.

So Raila is right on Mau.

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschurch at yahoo.com>wrote:

>    Young Professionals
>
> I see one Dr. Abonyo has presented  a great "Mis- Analysis" of Raila and
> who Raila needs to be with to win the Presidency. Well this is great. For a
> moment I thought Raila only needs to gain the confidence of the Kenyan Voter
> to be able to win a Presidential contest.According to Daktari, all Raila
> needs to  do is is to have Ruto, in his Bandwagon to win the Presidency. But
> one problem is suppose the Citizens reject both Raila and Ruto, then what
> happens?
> Secondly he, Dr. Abonyo is not consulting with Raila to know where Raila
> Stands. I mean suppose Raila decided that there is too much circus with
> Kenyan Politicians, and chooses not to run. What happens after that????
>
> Despite that I would strongly suggest to Daktari, he may wonna read the
> analysis from "Breigner" in this forum, before he decided to deride Raila,
> goring him to death. After that we might wonna ask you to analyze for us
> what happened that led to Raila and many others pulling out of KANU
> and forming LDP. Ask Ruto what he did with the resolutions that were reached
> at the KANU meeting on election rules.
>
> Did he Ruto lock himself in a Room, to cook the resolutions and change the
> regulations? Did he insubordinate his Party's secretary by making that
> announcement which locked out the Likes of Saitoti, Kalonzo Musyoka,
> Ntimama, Nyaga, and a number of other Kanu members from applying to contest
> the seats? Why did many of those Party Members run to Raila, seeking him to
> clear the air, only to find out that Raila was also not aware. Neither had
> he been informed of the changes.
> Yet when he made a telephone Call to the Deputy secretary, he was told that
> that decision was Final. Who made the decisions to be Final, while the
> Secretary to the Party was not aware? Daktari do you remember Raila clearing
> the air as to the Confusion by reading the resolutions and the regulations
> to the press and the public, that he as the secretary General was asking all
> those who were interested in contesting for Kanu office bearers, as well as
> party nominations to disregard Assistant Secretary's directives, to proceed
> on to submit their application forms to Kanu Headquarters..
>
> Daktari do you also remember that, after this episode of insubordination,
> Raila later found out that someone had interfered with the KANU Members
> register and his name was missing from that Register. Hmmmh! Kanu
> inawenyewe, remember!
> Daktari could you please explain in a short analysis, what happened to
> simple KANU Party rules which every Member knew and had a copy of, but which
> Ruto as the Assistant Secretary decided to change.
>
> Fast forward to the ODM nominations. New politics had been ushered in by
> this one Tinga, where he urged everyone vying for the Presidential
> Nomination, to sell themselves and their agenda to Kenyans including those
> in the Diaspora. Some Kenyans who were eager for change decided to raise
> money and have all those ODM Presidential candidates  give a speech at the
> backyard of Buckingham Palace. Raila and Honorable Nyaga arrived there on
> time. But the other bunch (Majina zao nimezibana), developed cold feet and
> did not go to England.
>
> Even after that debacle they blamed Raila for trying to outdo them.
> Question is what were they scared of? And how Comes Hon Joseph Nyaga was
> brave enough to go and present himself to the people? My take is, these
> leaders had nothing to offer to Kenyans other than tribe. And since out
> there there was no tribal empathy, but just Kenyans, they had to shy away
> and stay in Nairobi.
>
> Daktari if in your learned mind you believe beyond reasonable doubt, that
> Raila is self destructing, and that these other people you keep pitting
> against Raila, are the good ones, then, you might be behaving like the Fool
> who was on a Frying Pan (Furumbem in Kiluhya), but on realizing the Pan was
> becoming too hot, decided to Jump over into the Fire to save himself. To me
> Raila looks like he wants to Lead the people where there will be the rule of
> law, checks and balances.
>
> Now, if you say that there is any other top Leader currently in Kenya
> Parliament, whom is striving to Lead the Country with some of those Values
> in mind, then I will conclude that you are at a very high level of "Utopian
> World". For that reason you might wonna climb down the ladder just a little
> bit, to the level of Mwanainchi, so that you may see the "HANIAFU" colors of
> these Leaders
>
> Raila in Kanu, was constantly undermined, by his Assistant secretary, and
> other officers who were constantly reminded that "KANU INAWENYEWE". When he
> was Minister in charge of Roads he made a very Bold Step, to bring in Sanity
> by re-structuring the road network in the City center. He introduced the One
> Way routes, which eased the maddening congestion that was already choking
> Nairobi. He then embarked on bringing into reality the Construction of a
> Beltway around Nairobi. BOLDLY, RAILA gave notice to the Land Grabbers to
> vacate Road reserves to pave way for the beltway.
>
> At that time Many politicians made a lot of Noise. Some said the "Kihii"
> was destroying Andu aa nyumba's property. Well, do you know what happened?
> Ten years down the Line those who were opposing Tinga, saw the sense of what
> he was trying to do. The Construction of the Beltway is underway. The Man
> hours that have been wasted by congested Roads in Nairobi for the last five
> years alone, could have given Kenya a big leap towards Industrialization.
>
> As a Minister of Energy, Raila solicited for funds and got a Donna, to
> construct a Hydro Electric Plant, away, from the River TANA Line (Kindaruma,
> Kamburu, Masinga and Kiambere are all located on Tana). This he argued would
> boost KVA on the Grid, while at the same time the Load on River Tana
> especially during the Dry spells when the Water Level is down making the
> Plants be inoperable. So Sondu/Miriu Plant was born. Interestingly, the
> government Faulted on releasing its part of the Funds and Miriu project
> almost died. But the Man (Amolo Tinga) got another donor to inject more
> money on the project and Miriu came into being.
>
> Right now Raila is fighting "Fools" trying to make them see sense as to the
> necessity of preserving the Forest for future Generation, but all these
> Fools can see is Tribe.
> These Leaders, long ago, bought a  "CHEAP LEADERSHIP TOOLBOX, full of
> Tools, hundreds of them. Yet each and every tool in that box, unfortunately,
> is a "TRIBE" tool. Whenever they retrieve one to fix a problem, it always
> turns out to be Tribe. For example whenever an illiterate mediocre
> performing person is relieved from holding an office, these Leaders will
> pull out the Tribe Tool;......Yeah! Our Tribe is being finished.
> A constitution is being made;....NO, we must think of our tribe.  Improving
> Road Network,...........NO, NO, NO! now he is destroying our tribes people's
> property!!!!!!!
>
> Raila politely asks people who are destroying Forest to move out to pave
> way for reclaiming the Forest,........... And they go into a cacophonic
> frenzy. OOOh! Our people must be respected. Those who evicted out our people
> from Forest land are WAHUNI (Barbaric in nature), they are Tribal and dada
> dada daaa. For all they can see as Leaders is tribe.
>
> But tell you what, ten years down the line, they and many other people,
> including you Bwana Daktari, will come to  a "Too late realization",  that,
> rather than fight him they would have mobilized and joined Raila in
> his efforts to Conserve these Forests.
>
> Have a conservation Day. But Remember this, that the same Tinga you are
> barraging with arrow like words here, is truly for the Mwanainchi and Kenya,
> while those you give a lot of respect and credence here might turn out to be
> only after their stomachs and "grabbable" wealth. Raila with all his ills,
> is 500times more sane than the rest of them.
>
> K'Onyiego
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 12/8/09, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 6:15 AM
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:14 AM, barack abonyo <luo31 at hotmail.com<http://us.mc621.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=luo31 at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
>> Waw what a crowd at Tononoka! As many have said, "Raila is fighting back".
>> However, the real question is, "Raila is fighting who back?". I am thrilled
>> to answer this question. In brief, Raila is fighting himself.
>>
>> After working very hard to consolidate a pwerhouse in the ODM, Raila
>> embarked on a desperate move to dismatle it. First he disolved the pentagon
>> then declared himself the sole party leader. Things backfired and the
>> pentagon had to be reconstituted. Notwithstanding the damage had been done.
>> Then came the issue of youths rotting in jail after the postelection
>> violence to which Ngilu was almost kicked out softly. Immediately after
>> that the raging storm was still on, the hague and Ruto followed by Ruto and
>> the maize scandal arrived. Ruto was not blind he saw his friend Raila was
>> able to rescue him but instead Raila cut off the rope that Ruto held on to
>> let him slip and sink into the rot which both Raila and Ruto created
>> together. A friend in need is a friend indeed. But at the same time, the
>> person who can bring you down faster is your friend. To Ruto, Raila proved
>> to be a betrayer rather than a friend. Raila became a backstabber. Raila
>> chose to reallign himself with those who fought both Ruto and Raila at the
>> expence of those who shed their blood and lost their lives for him. In this
>> case one cannot blame the son of Samoei for saying enough is enough when he
>> met his tribesmen walking their donkeys toward the roadside where their half
>> naked buttocks was being eaten by the mau cold.
>>
>> Just why Raila concentrated on this may only be known to himslef.
>> "Was he fighting the right war or right enemy". In my view, these fights
>> were completely unecessary for Raila. He should have not initiated it. He
>> needed Ruto as much as Ruto needed him. Ruto tried to hang in there but the
>> assault was too much. Respect was already lost and Raila was not consulting
>> Ruto on anything including things in Ruto's Rift Valley tuff. However Raila
>> still needed Ruto for 2012 and by Raila constantly fighting Ruto, he was
>> simply shooting himself in the foot.
>>
>> The reason for this war has not been understood even by Raila closest
>> associates. Many would prefer to keep Ruto in ODM because it makes it easy
>> to fight the real opposition. Just why Raila did this baffles many. Was Ruto
>> a threat to the possibility of the son of Jaramogi being chosen the ODM
>> presidential candidate? I doubt it because in ODM Ruto is no match for
>> Raila. Was Ruto threatening to dislodge Raila's silent dog, Musalia
>> Mudavadi? May be. Was he afraid  Ruto could testify and mention him at the
>> hague hence Raila wanted to dissociate himself from Ruto early? Possibly.
>> All in all my best gues is that Raila saw a threat in Ruto and chose to kick
>> him out earlier rather than later. It suffices to say that the relationship
>> is over. This is just a rerun between Raila and Wamalwa or Raila and
>> Kalonzo. It is going to be impossible for Raila and Ruto to come back
>> together or if they come together, they will still backstab each other. Like
>> Kalonzo, Ruto is going to be the force that blocks Raila from presidency. He
>> has some votes. People should not forget that.
>>
>> Now the fight began, procceded and the dust is settling a little bit. Who
>> won and how? I still contend that Raila lost but Ruto did not gain what
>> Raila lost. This is why. In 2012, Raila got majority of the votes from Rift
>> Valley. Whatever Raila does and however he twists it, he will not get the
>> same ammount of votes from this region if he does not work it with Ruto.
>> Infact he will get less than 30% of the votes he got last time if Kosgey and
>> Sirma stick with him. The Rift Valley was the swing vote for Raila, if he
>> cannot bag 70% of this vote, it will become near impossible to clinch the
>> presidency irrespective of how many people show up at Tononoka. The winning
>> votes are not at Tononoka, it is in the Rift Valley. The coast, western and
>> Eastern are always didivided. Raila will not be a clear winner of 2012
>> elections and this is what Ruto was working on after being mistreated and he
>> has successfully done it.
>>
>> The only lousy thing Ruto did was to join CAMPS too fast. The Kalenjins
>> are very weary of another Kikuyu leadership and Ruto should have known that
>> a fight with Raila does not imply a friendship with Uhuru. The Kalenjins do
>> not want to hear the name Kenyatta anywhere close to power hence as soon as
>> Ruto jumped ship, his best bet was to build a new ship without Uhuru at the
>> top. However, incase Uhuru allow Ruto to be at the top of the ticket, Raila
>> will have a real fight in the Rift Valley, central and Eastern.
>>
>> For the Kenyan public these things are working in the right direction for
>> a brand new leadership. It is time for the storm to push the takataka to the
>> sea as Raila himself said and a complete new leader emerge. Again I say,
>> "It is time for change"
>> Dr. Barack Otieno Abonyo
>>
>>
> Daktari,
>
> Do you remember YK92? Do you recall what that group did to the country's
> economy? Do you know "jirongo" (the currency, not the man!)?
> Now, what you are telling is is that Kenyans are gullible enough (yes, we
> are, perhaps) to swallow another YK92 renamed to YK2012 hook, bait and
> sinker?
> You've done quite a good analysis there, but you missed the point. Raila is
> fighting not himself but for Kenyans. You've promptly forgotten that all the
> current flame wars (I don't want to term them political for they are not)
> are about the Mau and those who have vested interests in it. Please keep
> your eye on the ball! At the end of the day, you've ended up reading
> political alignements in the current squabbles. One year in politics is a
> very long time, and 2012 is 2 years away. Much of what you see now is gonna
> change shortly. Politicos are always about scheming for power. Remember also
> that in politics, there are no permanent friends or enemies. It's always
> about "me". Have you forgotten about the rotten maize? Have you forgotten
> about the subsidized flour that never was? The talk about the country is
> just the icing on the cake, which itself is quite bitter. If you asked me
> who I'd vote for if elections were called today, I'd say .... none, and I
> know that makes you happy, but that doesn't legitimize your skewed analysis.
>
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Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] ARE KENYANS BEING DUPED BY ISP's
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From: ern451 at yahoo.com (Ann Wambui)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:39:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Megaliving by Mark Victor Hansen
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Hi Jayne,
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the book is a must read..very very good. am attaching a soft copy for you.

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From: Jayne Wachira <jayne.wachira09 at gmail.com>
Subject: [YP_Ke] Megaliving by Mark Victor Hansen
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 9:24 AM

Hi there
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Any one with a soft copy of the book Megaliving, authored by Mark Victor Hansen? Kindly if you do, please send me a copy. Would really appreciate.
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From: jairuschurch at yahoo.com (Jagem K'Onyiego)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:53:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND
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I see one Dr. Abonyo has presented? a great "Mis- Analysis" of Raila and who Raila needs to be with to win the Presidency. Well this is great. For a moment I thought Raila only needs to gain the confidence of the Kenyan Voter to be able to win a Presidential contest.According to Daktari, all Raila needs to? do is is to have Ruto, in his Bandwagon to win?the Presidency. But one problem is suppose the Citizens reject both Raila and Ruto, then what happens? 
Secondly he, Dr. Abonyo is?not consulting with Raila to know where Raila Stands. I mean suppose Raila decided that there is too much circus with Kenyan Politicians, and chooses not to run. What happens after that????
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Despite that I would strongly?suggest to Daktari, he may wonna read the analysis from "Breigner" in this forum, before?he decided to deride Raila, goring him to death. After that we might wonna ask you to analyze for us what happened that led to Raila and many others pulling out of KANU and?forming LDP. Ask Ruto what he did with the resolutions that were reached at the KANU meeting on election rules.
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Did he Ruto lock himself in a Room,?to cook the resolutions and change the regulations? Did he insubordinate his Party's secretary by making that announcement which locked out the Likes of Saitoti, Kalonzo Musyoka, Ntimama, Nyaga, and a number of other Kanu members from?applying to contest the seats? Why did many of those Party Members run to Raila, seeking him to clear the air, only to find out that Raila was also not aware. Neither had he been informed of the changes. 
Yet when he made a telephone Call?to the Deputy secretary, he was told that that decision was Final. Who made the decisions to be Final, while the Secretary to the Party was not aware? Daktari do you remember Raila?clearing the air as to the Confusion by reading the resolutions and the regulations to the press and the public, that he?as the secretary General was asking all those who were interested in contesting for Kanu office bearers,?as well as party nominations to disregard Assistant Secretary's directives, to proceed on to submit their application forms to Kanu Headquarters..
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Daktari do you also remember that, after this episode of insubordination, Raila later found out that someone had interfered with?the KANU Members register and his name was missing from that Register. Hmmmh! Kanu inawenyewe, remember!?
Daktari could you please explain in a short analysis, what happened to simple?KANU Party rules which every Member knew and had a copy of, but which Ruto as the Assistant Secretary decided?to change.
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Fast forward to the ODM nominations. New politics had been ushered in by this one Tinga, where he urged everyone vying for the Presidential Nomination, to sell themselves and their agenda to Kenyans including those in the Diaspora. Some Kenyans who were eager for change decided to raise money and have all those ODM?Presidential candidates? give a speech at the backyard of Buckingham Palace. Raila and Honorable Nyaga arrived there on time. But the other bunch (Majina zao nimezibana), developed cold feet and did not go to England. 
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Even after that debacle they blamed Raila for trying to outdo them. Question is what were they scared of? And how Comes Hon Joseph Nyaga was brave enough to go and present himself to the people? My take is, these leaders had nothing to offer to Kenyans other than tribe. And since out there there was?no tribal?empathy, but just Kenyans, they had to shy away and stay in Nairobi.
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Daktari if in your learned mind you believe beyond reasonable doubt, that Raila is self destructing, and that these other people you keep pitting against Raila, are the good ones, then,?you might be?behaving like the Fool who was on a Frying Pan (Furumbem in Kiluhya), but on realizing the Pan was becoming too hot, decided to Jump over into the Fire to save himself. To me Raila looks like he wants to Lead the people where there will be the rule of law, checks and balances.
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Now, if you say that there is any other top Leader currently in Kenya Parliament, whom is striving to Lead the Country with some of those Values in mind, then?I will conclude that you are at a very high level of "Utopian World". For that reason you might wonna climb down the ladder just a little bit, to the level of Mwanainchi, so that you may see the "HANIAFU" colors of these Leaders?
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Raila in Kanu, was constantly undermined, by his Assistant secretary, and other officers who were constantly reminded that "KANU INAWENYEWE". When he was Minister in charge of Roads he made a very Bold Step, to bring in Sanity by re-structuring the road network in the City center. He introduced the One Way routes, which eased the maddening congestion that was already choking Nairobi. He then embarked?on bringing into reality the Construction of a Beltway around Nairobi. BOLDLY, RAILA gave notice to the Land Grabbers to vacate Road reserves to pave way for the beltway. 
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At that time Many politicians made a lot of Noise. Some said the "Kihii" was destroying Andu aa nyumba's property. Well, do?you know what happened? Ten years down the Line those who were opposing?Tinga, saw the sense of what he was trying to do. The Construction of the Beltway is underway. The Man hours that have been wasted by congested Roads in Nairobi for the last five years alone, could have given Kenya a big leap towards Industrialization.
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As a Minister of Energy, Raila solicited for funds and got a Donna, to construct a Hydro Electric Plant, away, from the River TANA Line (Kindaruma, Kamburu, Masinga and Kiambere are all located on Tana). This he argued would boost KVA on the Grid, while at the same time the Load on River Tana especially during the Dry spells when the Water Level?is down making the Plants be inoperable. So Sondu/Miriu Plant was born. Interestingly, the government Faulted on releasing its part of the Funds and Miriu project almost died. But the Man (Amolo Tinga)?got another donor to inject more money on the project and Miriu came into being.
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Right now Raila is fighting "Fools" trying to make them see sense as to the necessity of preserving the Forest for future Generation, but all these Fools can see is Tribe. 
These Leaders, long ago, bought a? "CHEAP LEADERSHIP TOOLBOX,?full of Tools, hundreds of them. Yet each and every tool in that box,?unfortunately, is a "TRIBE" tool. Whenever they retrieve one to fix a problem, it always turns out to be Tribe. For example whenever an illiterate mediocre performing person is?relieved from holding an office, these Leaders will pull out the Tribe Tool;......Yeah! Our Tribe is being finished.
A constitution is being made;....NO, we must think of our tribe. ?Improving Road Network,...........NO, NO, NO! now he is destroying our tribes people's property!!!!!!! 
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Raila politely asks people who are destroying Forest to move out to pave way for reclaiming the Forest,........... And they go into a cacophonic frenzy. OOOh! Our people must be respected. Those who evicted out our people from Forest land are WAHUNI (Barbaric in nature),?they are Tribal and dada dada daaa. For all they can see as Leaders is tribe.
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But tell you what, ten years down the line, they and?many other people, including you Bwana Daktari, will come to? a "Too late realization", ?that, rather than fight him they would have mobilized and joined Raila in his?efforts to Conserve these Forests.
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Have a conservation Day. But Remember this, that the same Tinga you are barraging with arrow like words here, is truly for the Mwanainchi and Kenya, while those you give a lot of respect and credence here might turn out to be only after their stomachs and "grabbable" wealth. Raila with all his ills, is?500times more sane than the rest of them.
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--- On Tue, 12/8/09, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 6:15 AM





On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:14 AM, barack abonyo <luo31 at hotmail.com> wrote:


Waw what a crowd at Tononoka! As many have said, "Raila is fighting back". However, the real question is, "Raila is fighting who back?". I?am thrilled to answer this question. In brief, Raila is fighting himself. 
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After working very hard to consolidate a pwerhouse in the ODM,?Raila embarked on a desperate move to dismatle it.?First he disolved the pentagon then declared himself the sole party leader. Things backfired and the pentagon had to be reconstituted. Notwithstanding the damage had been done. Then came the issue of youths rotting in jail after the postelection violence to which Ngilu was almost kicked out softly. Immediately after that?the raging storm was still on, the hague and Ruto followed by Ruto and the maize scandal arrived. Ruto was not blind he saw his friend Raila?was able to rescue him but instead Raila cut off the rope?that Ruto held on to let him?slip and sink into the?rot?which both?Raila?and Ruto created together. A friend in need is a friend indeed. But at the same time, the person who can bring you down faster is your friend. To Ruto, Raila proved to be a betrayer rather than a friend. Raila became a backstabber. Raila chose to
 reallign himself with those who fought?both Ruto and Raila?at the expence of those who shed their blood and lost their lives for him. In this case one cannot blame the son of Samoei for saying enough is enough when he met his tribesmen walking their donkeys toward the roadside where their half naked buttocks was being eaten by the mau cold.
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Just why Raila concentrated on this may only be known to himslef. "Was?he?fighting the right war or right enemy". In my view, these fights were completely unecessary for Raila. He should have not initiated it. He needed Ruto as much as Ruto needed him. Ruto tried to hang in there but the assault was too much. Respect was already lost and Raila was not consulting Ruto on anything including things in Ruto's Rift Valley tuff.?However Raila still?needed Ruto for 2012 and by Raila constantly fighting Ruto, he was simply shooting himself in the foot. 
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The reason for this war has not been understood even by Raila closest associates. Many would prefer to keep Ruto in ODM because it makes it easy to fight the real opposition. Just why Raila did this baffles many. Was Ruto a threat to the possibility of?the son of?Jaramogi?being chosen the ODM presidential candidate? I doubt it because in ODM Ruto is no match for Raila. Was Ruto threatening to dislodge Raila's silent dog, Musalia Mudavadi? May be. Was he afraid? Ruto could testify and mention?him at the hague hence Raila wanted to dissociate himself from Ruto early? Possibly. All in all my best gues is that Raila saw a threat in Ruto and chose to kick him out earlier rather than later. It suffices to say that the relationship is over. This is just a rerun between Raila and Wamalwa or Raila and Kalonzo. It is going to be impossible for Raila and Ruto to come back together or if they come together, they will still backstab each other. Like Kalonzo,
 Ruto is going to be the force that blocks Raila from presidency. He has some votes. People should not forget that.
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Now the fight began, procceded and the dust is settling a little bit. Who won and how? I still contend that Raila lost but Ruto did not?gain what Raila lost. This is why. In 2012, Raila got majority of the votes from Rift Valley. Whatever Raila does and however he twists it, he will not get the same ammount of votes from this region if he does not work it with Ruto. Infact he will get less than 30% of the votes he got last time if Kosgey and Sirma stick with him. The Rift Valley was the swing vote for Raila, if he cannot bag 70% of this vote, it will become near impossible to clinch the presidency irrespective of how many people show up at Tononoka. The winning votes are not at Tononoka, it is in the Rift Valley. The coast, western and Eastern are always didivided. Raila will not be a clear winner of?2012 elections and this is what Ruto was working on after being mistreated and he has successfully done it.
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The only lousy thing Ruto did was to join CAMPS too fast. The Kalenjins are very weary of another Kikuyu leadership and Ruto should have known that a fight with Raila does not imply a friendship with Uhuru. The Kalenjins do not want to hear the name Kenyatta anywhere close to power hence as soon as Ruto jumped ship, his best bet was to build a new ship without Uhuru at the top.?However, incase Uhuru allow Ruto to be at the top of the ticket, Raila will have a real fight in the Rift Valley, central and Eastern. 
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For?the Kenyan public these things are working in the right direction for a brand new leadership. It is time for the storm to push the takataka to the sea as Raila himself said?and a complete new leader emerge. Again I say, "It?is time for change"
Dr. Barack Otieno Abonyo?





Daktari,


Do you remember YK92? Do you recall what that group did to the country's economy? Do you know "jirongo" (the currency, not the man!)?
Now, what you are telling is is that Kenyans are gullible enough (yes, we are, perhaps) to swallow another YK92 renamed to YK2012 hook, bait and sinker?
You've done quite a good analysis there, but you missed the point. Raila is fighting not himself but for Kenyans. You've promptly forgotten that all the current flame wars (I don't want to term them political for they are not) are about the Mau and those who have vested interests in it. Please keep your eye on the ball! At the end of the day, you've ended up reading political alignements in the current squabbles. One year in politics is a very long time, and 2012 is 2 years away. Much of what you see now is gonna change shortly. Politicos are always about scheming for power. Remember also that in politics, there are no permanent friends or enemies. It's always about "me". Have you forgotten about the rotten maize? Have you forgotten about the subsidized flour that never was? The talk about the country is just the icing on the cake, which itself is quite bitter. If you asked me who I'd vote for if elections were called today, I'd say .... none, and I know
 that makes you happy, but that doesn't legitimize your skewed analysis.

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From jairuschurch at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  9 16:44:26 2009
From: jairuschurch at yahoo.com (Jagem K'Onyiego)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:44:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] INTERESTING READS FROM KUMEKUCHA ON RAILA RUTO
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To Kenyans,
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There is a previous mail before this, that I?posted, where I responded to Dr. Abonyo's analysis of Raila Odinga's failures. In the response I mentioned that, many of the Leaders fighting against Raila have NOTHING MORE TO OFFER THAN TRIBE. That was my position and I was hoping that someone can prove me wrong by giving a CHRONOLOGY of national issues that these Leaders have?worked on. I hope I will get one, so that I can change my mind.As for now, I am convinced that, other than Tribal sentiments these Leaders fighting against the Prime Minister has nothing else to offer.
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My position has been strengthened?further, after reading this in depth analysis from "KUMEKUCHA", which also have been posted by Dr. Abonyo. I have gone through it, and in a quick summary, the whole text only?talks about individuals and Tribal leaders. It is an article that 100% dwells on pitting one tribe against another, Luo Vs Ruto's tribe and so on and so forth.
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Now after the 2007 violence, one would have thought that Leaderwouldud be striving to promote Unity, or even working to bring harmony into a Party like ODM. But as it is clear here many Many people and or Leaders are only bent on Promoting Tribalism.
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In my mind the major issue here is two Leaders; Ruto and Raila. Out of the two, one is trying to get a balance to bring harmony and peace between tribes. This is Raila. On the other hand Ruto has tried to rally one tribe to oppose whatever Raila is trying to achieve. I think this is pretty sad.
If any one is in doubt about this, then, follow the activities of the two, whether in the Rift Valley or in any other Province in Kenya. Raila has gone in those places and promoted peace and harmony. Raila goes to all corners of the Republic giving hope to the down trodden. that there will be a better tomorrow. If all Leaders would do this then Kenya would be one better place.
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Flip this picture and? come to his opponent, then try to go for the same values of hope and peace. and you get 0% (Zero percent) input. 
Someone might want to throw this in the works, that Raila evicted poor people from their farms in the Mau forest. Hmmmm! Is this true? Or did some TRIBAL CHIEFS TAKE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SETTLE SCORES? Did not Raila go to Parliament and tabled this issue in there. If so, how comes the members from the affected areas never came up with suggestions for alternatives? Or why did they not follow rules to also table their concerns, so that the House members could discuss this and find better ways that would be agreed by all before those Citizens were asked to move out.
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Instead these Politicians headed by Ruto made the whole exersise turn into a National Disaster. Ruto wanted fame as a tribal Kingpin. He was never really interested in the welfare of those families. How comes Ruto never gave out any alternative solutions to this saga. All I heard from him was Our people will not move. They must be respected. Well, Ok', they can be respected at this moment, but will that respect be there when they will be dying of Hunger and begging for food as a result of drought due to failed Rains? For me I would rather be disrespected than beg for food. The latter is the worst situation that any human being would wonna be in, cause you end up being treated like a Dog (an animal) and not a human being.?
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Something tells me, Bwana William, that you can be a desastrous Leader to your people because you cannot visualize what the Future holds for?them. Mr William as a Leader many people look up to you to bring peace and harmony amongst them. They also look to you, to provide wisdom and to protect their future. Unfortunately all these are lacking at the moment. 
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Bwana Samoei, if truly you are concerned?about your people, then work for them. I would also imagine that your?concern is not only for your people, but the rest of Kenyans as well. If so then stop these back hand tactics to settle some scores against the Premier. Instead come out and work with him to find solutions to these problems. If you pool your Ideas together, then there is no way you can fail to get solutions. But your tactics of hitting below the "belt" will not get solutions to your people, neither will it bring harmony. It can only bring divisions, the likes that was visited on?Kenyans between 1982 to 2002. Do you really want to get Kenya back to those ages or do you want to move forward and create your own Legacy for a better Kenya?
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--- On Tue, 12/8/09, barack abonyo <luo31 at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: barack abonyo <luo31 at hotmail.com>
Subject: [YP_Ke] INTERESTING READS FROM KUMEKUCHA ON RAILA RUTO BATTLE
To: "newvision" <newvisionkenya at yahoogroups.com>, "kca" <kca_main at yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "jaluo jaluo" <jaluo at jaluo.com>, "youngprofessionals" <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>, "nyciv" <nyciv at googlegroups.com>, editor at majimbokenya.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 2:36 PM





Thursday, December 03, 2009

Raila Vs Ruto Political Duel: Raila Fast Digging His Political Grave! 

See also most recent article by Chris: Why Ruto will win the war against Raila
Some of the things Kumekucha is reading: Annonymous comment costs employee his job

By Guest Writer

In the height of post-election violence, William Ruto and Najib Balala were key ODM figures who fought the Raila?s mass action war of ?stolen? presidency like their own personal fight and the TV images of the two fleeing in Nairobi streets from mean-looking GSU officers lobbing tear-gas at them are still fresh in my mind. The two men were ready to die for Raila. Remember Balala even shed tears when he stepped down for Raila during ODM presidential nomination at Kasarani. That?s as far as the marriage of convenience lasted.

The unfolding drama and imminent fall out in ODM was not unexpected but I could not imagine Raila falling out with Ruto and Balala. The fall out best explains how Kenya politics is fluid. Raila largely owes his position and the powers he enjoys to Ruto and Balala. Apart from vigorously campaigning for Raila in the 2007 General Elections, Ruto and Balala took charge of Raila?s mass action call and rallied ODM supporters and their affiliate tribes to civil disobedience to protest Kibaki?s controversial win. The fall out is a big lesson to other politicians and tribes ? never fight another man?s war or kill in their name.

If Raila called for the mass action and only Luos heeded his call, Kenyans wouldn?t have been subjected to PEV or violence would have been minimal and of little consequence. But Ruto?s powerbase, the Rift Valley, was the main battle zone for PEV and the tragic and barbaric events in the province were what put Kenya on the international radar. Without Ruto and Balala and the Rift Valley primitive slaughter, Raila would have reluctantly settled for the humble position of the Official Opposition Leader. But thanks to the blood of innocent Kenyans, Raila landed on the prime post he is now using to flex his muscles against the foot soldiers and lieutenants who killed and uprooted innocent from their homes and businesses in his name.

Ruto and Balala are the equivalent of Martha Karua, who toppled the scale against Raila on the finishing line and ensured Kibaki got a controversial second term. Without Karua, Kibaki would have kissed goodbye to the presidency. The Krieger Report told us neither Kibaki nor Raila could stake a high moral ground and claim they legally won. ODM and PNU fiddled with election results in their strongholds. Kibaki and Raila loyalists can fume with that assertion but that?s the reality. For that, Raila and Kibaki equally share the blame in 2008 PEV.

The seeds of hatred were sowed by Kibaki when he refused to honour a pre-election MoU with Raila when he came to power in 2002. Kibaki added fuel to the fire when he started weeding out key Kalenjins from his new Administration. Kalenjins regarded the presidency to be synonymous to Moi and as if State House was their property. They were bitter loosing power to a Kikuyu. Ruto and Kalenjins would be consigned to the political dustbin were it not for Kibaki?s poor judgment in politics.

After the fall out with Kibaki over dishonoured MoU, Raila?s only option was to team up with Kibaki?s enemies and that?s how Kalenjins and leaders who had looted state coffers or had criminal records (some murderers for their roles in 1992 and 1997 tribal clashes), and killers likes of Ole Ntimama, got a new lifeline. Raila and his new-found allies saw the best way to fight Kibaki was to pour petrol to the fire of hatred, which he had lit with the dishonoured MoU. The birth of ODM after the 2005 referendum was based on pure hatred towards Mt Kenya folks and revenge against Kibaki. Thanks to Kibaki?s failures and fall out with Raila, Moi today looks like a saint despite his many dark evils in his 24-year rule.

ODM big guns and their supporters held divergent personal and political ideologies and their marriage was only for convenience but not driven by desire to bring genuine change and reforms in Kenya. These were strange bedfellows. ODM was meant to replace Kibaki?s eating club with new or re-packaged thieves and looters. But the revenge against Kibaki and by extent his tribe, the Kikuyus, was the temporary glue that brought political conmen, looters, murderers and graft lords together. The glue held up to the 2007 Presidential elections and Kenya went to elections in a charged and polluted environment. The ODM unity of purpose ? to kick out Kibaki from State House ? was what made Raila?s mass action call work. Sooner or later, party time and honeymoon was going to be over for Raila and his ODM.

Unknown to Ruto and Balala, Koffi Annan was pushing for ceasefire and a Grand Coalition Government without revealing his true intentions. He wanted to bring peace but ensure killers were punished. In fact, Raila and ODM were the ones who wanted Annan and the international to intervene claiming they had been robbed of the presidency by Kibaki. Kibaki and his allies were content after retaining the presidency and they didn?t want Annan to come in.

Raila and ODM got an upper hand and Kibaki conceded to share power. The man ODM saw as their saviour had a trick up his sleeve ? unleashing the ICC and Ocampo after the PEV dust settled. Ruto and his ODM thought the PEV issue ended as soon as Kibaki and Raila signed a peace deal. How mistaken they were! To the disbelief of Ruto, Balala and others who suspect their names were in the Waki envelope, Raila backed trial of PEV suspects. This is after Raila had equated the PEV killers to freedom fighters! What a betrayal from the mass action general.

Raila looked at 2007 General Election as the end of the world ? it was a do or die. He forgot he could loose and vie another day. His mass action call gave birth to mass murder and Kikuyus suffered the most. Raila realised the folly of his mass action call and warmed up to Kikuyus and to the larger Mt Kenya people after he invited Kibaki to his Bondo home. He now enjoys a good working relationship with Kibaki.

When relations improved, Kibaki cleverly pushed the explosive Mau eviction issue to Raila and the PM enthusiastically took it up hoping to win an image of a national and international leader. Raila has received a huge sarcastic backing from Mt Kenya folks on the Mau issue ? but that will remain as far as Mau forest is concerned. In public, Mt Kenya folks displaying their ?support? to Raila in regard to Mau, while in private laughing as Raila?s burns the bridges that propelled him to where he is today. Doubt this? Read comments on Daily Nation website everyday and guess who are cheering on Raila.

In evicting Kalenjins from Mau, Raila is stepping on the toes of murders, thieves, looters and land grabbers who had played a key role in his 2007 presidential campaign and what he is today. The current fall out was inevitable. Mt Kenya are arguing Raila is unknowingly revenging on them for what Kalenjins did to their Gema kinsmen in 2008. What a better way to get revenge for Kikuyus killed and uprooted from RV? By using their 2007 hero, Raila!

Those who wish away Kikuyus to play a major role in any election are doomed. Kikuyus have the numbers and they vote to preserve their selfish interests ? to protect their wealth. In this regard, even if a Kikuyu doesn?t vie for the top seat in 2012 to avoid a repeat of the backlash of 2007, the community will play a big role in deciding Kenya?s next CEO. If no Kikuyu garners for the top seat, Raila?s campaign will be largely deflated as he will not have the ammunitions he had in 2007, rallying other tribes against Mt Kenya folks. Raila?s political future will be doomed.

Unlike Luos who openly express their anger and thoughts and you can easily read their mind and next move, Kikuyus are the opposite. Luos may have celebrated too early that they managed to drive a final nail in the coffin of the frosty relations between Kikuyus and Kalenjins ? stemming from land in Rift Valley. Kikuyus in Rift Valley may never mend fences with Kalenjins. But Kikuyus in Central Province and elsewhere have nothing to loose in mending fences with Kalenjins as long as that will place them in leadership or the next Government. Furthermore, Kikuyus and Kalenjins have a lot at stake ? land in Rift Valley. What have Luos to offer Kikuyus? Kikuyus can bury their past grudges as long as Kalenjins are willing to accommodate them in RV.

In this regard, Raila made the 2007 General Election look like a personal battle against Kikuyus and majority of Kikuyus believe they would not have fallen victims and suffered so much due to PEV were it not for Raila. Even before 2007, majority of Kikuyus openly said they couldn?t vote for a Luo, more so Raila. Raila?s tribal and hatred politics that led to PEV permanently burnt his political bridges with Mt Kenya folks. Raila may have toned down his hard politics on Kibaki to please Mt Kenya folks, but they are unlikely to ever forgive him for the PEV.

>From the look of things, Ocampo is unlikely to go after Kibaki and Raila. Kibaki loses nothing since he is doing his last term. If Ruto and Uhuru Kenyatta are both indicted by Ocampo over PEV and leave Raila, Kikuyus and Kalenjins will be united by a common purpose as happened in the recent Mau evictees fund-raising. The common enemy for the two tribes will be Raila and they will never forgive him for his mass action call that gave birth to PEV and took their sons to Hague.

In such a scenario, the person who will be smiling all the way to the bank and likely to reap is one Kalonzo Musyoka. He?ll tell Kikuyus: ?I rushed to boost Kibaki from Raila on slot after the disputed polls and you retained the presidency.? He?ll turn to Kalenjins and tell them: ?I warned you about Raila. Look at what he has done with you with Mau and with Ruto.? The Mau eviction and PEV trials were the turning point of Raila and Kalenjins and only a divine intervention can save Raila from the imminent tsunami he faces in 20120 and beyond.

Raila mistakenly believes if Hague takes Uhuru and Ruto, his ambitions to rule Kenya are home and sealed. I bet Raila will die like his father before he rules Kenya. The best Raila and his father managed is a step away from the throne. It is very unlikely Kibaki will back Raila in 2012 and Kikuyus are very unlikely to vote for Raila come rain come sunshine ? even with Kibaki?s backing.

Lacking a better strategy to tame the Ruto-Balala axis, Raila has resorted to laughable theatrics by challenging them to quit the Cabinet. That?s a very cowardly challenge. If you are an employer and your employee openly defies you, do you keep daring him to quit or you sack him? A rogue employee looses nothing clinging on and making trouble from within. Ruto and Balala have equally hit back and said they did not fear being sacked.

Raila?s frequent challenge to Ruto & Co to quit shows he has no moral courage to fire the group. He would be digging deeper his political grave. Raila is playing holistic politics. Didn?t the same Raila rock Kibaki?s Govt from within in Narc and after becoming PM? I believe Ruto and Balala have psychologically set their minds Hague is real. They must have decided even if they went to Hague, they?ll sink the political ambitions of the thankless general they fought for.

Raila is fast digging his political grave and if I was him, I would do all I can to win back the Ruto-Balala axis, to win their tribesmen and women. Due to his greed for power, Raila is fast digging his political grave while being cheered by his enemies and his blind supporters. Let?s wait and see if the powerful Kikuyu block with vote for him in 2012.

Kibaki in his first term evicted settlers from Mau forest. Raila ganged up with Ruto and his allies denouncing Kibaki and introducing hate and tribal politics. They used Mau evictions as ammunition against Kibaki in 2005 referendum. When campaigning 2007 presidential elections, Raila and allies perfected hate politics and again used Mau to settle scores with Kibaki and assured settlers they wouldn?t be evicted. Raila scored political mileage and won Kalenjin votes. Ruto and allies perfecting what their master taught them.

Kibaki has last laugh as Raila?s hate politics returns to haunt him. Kibaki is playing clever. He agreed to a truce with Raila and allows him to flex his muscle and exercise his perceived and illusionary powers (Kibaki retains all executive powers) as he sits back to enjoy his former enemies fighting each other and their general.

If Hague prunes Ruto and Uhuru from Kenya?s political map, I encourage doubting Thomases and Raila?s blind ardent follows to keep a copy of this story as a historical reference. I love this show. Who would have expected a fall out after all the chest-thumping in ODM in the run up to 2007.


P.S. And on the CoE constitution, I share Moi?s stand and concerns. Kenya should have one CEO, pure presidential and system. The CEO?s power should be drastically watered down and checked by strong judiciary and parliament. All appointments must be endorsed by Parliament to curb tribalism and nepotism. Two centres of power will put Kenya permanently on tension due to power struggle between president and PM, driving away investors and tourists. Two centres of power will spell doom for the future survival of Kenya. Raila and his like-minded shud should seek our mandate if they want to rule but not grab power through back door.

Kumekucha Weekend Special is back!! Don't miss the most controversial posts here in a long time this Saturday and Sunday. Topic; The Big Luo political kitendawili. Chris is truly BACK!!!

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> From: Wams2006 at gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:07:11 -0500
> Subject: [NewVisionKenya] Why Rutoh will fell Raila..INTERESTING READ
> 
> http://kumekucha.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In the height of post-election violence, William Ruto and Najib Balala
> were key ODM figures who fought the Raila?s mass action war of
> ?stolen? presidency like their own personal fight and the TV images of
> the two fleeing in Nairobi streets from mean-looking GSU officers
> lobbing tear-gas at them are still fresh in my mind. The two men were
> ready to die for Raila. Remember Balala even shed tears when he
> stepped down for Raila during ODM presidential nomination at Kasarani.
> That?s as far as the marriage of convenience lasted.
> 
> The unfolding drama and imminent fall out in ODM was not unexpected
> but I could not imagine Raila falling out with Ruto and Balala. The
> fall out best explains how Kenya politics is fluid. Raila largely owes
> his position and the powers he enjoys to Ruto and Balala. Apart from
> vigorously campaigning for Raila in the 2007 General Elections, Ruto
> and Balala took charge of Raila?s mass action call and rallied ODM
> supporters and their affiliate tribes to civil disobedience to protest
> Kibaki?s controversial win. The fall out is a big lesson to other
> politicians and tribes ? never fight another man?s war or kill in
> their name.
> 
> If Raila called for the mass action and only Luos heeded his call,
> Kenyans wouldn?t have been subjected to PEV or violence would have
> been minimal and of little consequence. But Ruto?s powerbase, the Rift
> Valley, was the main battle zone for PEV and the tragic and barbaric
> events in the province were what put Kenya on the international radar.
> Without Ruto and Balala and the Rift Valley primitive slaughter, Raila
> would have reluctantly settled for the humble position of the Official
> Opposition Leader. But thanks to the blood of innocent Kenyans, Raila
> landed on the prime post he is now using to flex his muscles against
> the foot soldiers and lieutenants who killed and uprooted innocent
> from their homes and businesses in his name.
> 
> Ruto and Balala are the equivalent of Martha Karua, who toppled the
> scale against Raila on the finishing line and ensured Kibaki got a
> controversial second term. Without Karua, Kibaki would have kissed
> goodbye to the presidency. The Krieger Report told us neither Kibaki
> nor Raila could stake a high moral ground and claim they legally won.
> ODM and PNU fiddled with election results in their strongholds. Kibaki
> and Raila loyalists can fume with that assertion but that?s the
> reality. For that, Raila and Kibaki equally share the blame in 2008
> PEV.
> 
> The seeds of hatred were sowed by Kibaki when he refused to honour a
> pre-election MoU with Raila when he came to power in 2002. Kibaki
> added fuel to the fire when he started weeding out key Kalenjins from
> his new Administration. Kalenjins regarded the presidency to be
> synonymous to Moi and as if State House was their property. They were
> bitter loosing power to a Kikuyu. Ruto and Kalenjins would be
> consigned to the political dustbin were it not for Kibaki?s poor
> judgment in politics.
> 
> After the fall out with Kibaki over dishonoured MoU, Raila?s only
> option was to team up with Kibaki?s enemies and that?s how Kalenjins
> and leaders who had looted state coffers or had criminal records (some
> murderers for their roles in 1992 and 1997 tribal clashes), and
> killers likes of Ole Ntimama, got a new lifeline. Raila and his
> new-found allies saw the best way to fight Kibaki was to pour petrol
> to the fire of hatred, which he had lit with the dishonoured MoU. The
> birth of ODM after the 2005 referendum was based on pure hatred
> towards Mt Kenya folks and revenge against Kibaki. Thanks to Kibaki?s
> failures and fall out with Raila, Moi today looks like a saint despite
> his many dark evils in his 24-year rule.
> 
> ODM big guns and their supporters held divergent personal and
> political ideologies and their marriage was only for convenience but
> not driven by desire to bring genuine change and reforms in Kenya.
> These were strange bedfellows. ODM was meant to replace Kibaki?s
> eating club with new or re-packaged thieves and looters. But the
> revenge against Kibaki and by extent his tribe, the Kikuyus, was the
> temporary glue that brought political conmen, looters, murderers and
> graft lords together. The glue held up to the 2007 Presidential
> elections and Kenya went to elections in a charged and polluted
> environment. The ODM unity of purpose ? to kick out Kibaki from State
> House ? was what made Raila?s mass action call work. Sooner or later,
> party time and honeymoon was going to be over for Raila and his ODM.
> 
> Unknown to Ruto and Balala, Koffi Annan was pushing for ceasefire and
> a Grand Coalition Government without revealing his true intentions. He
> wanted to bring peace but ensure killers were punished. In fact, Raila
> and ODM were the ones who wanted Annan and the international to
> intervene claiming they had been robbed of the presidency by Kibaki.
> Kibaki and his allies were content after retaining the presidency and
> they didn?t want Annan to come in.
> 
> Raila and ODM got an upper hand and Kibaki conceded to share power.
> The man ODM saw as their saviour had a trick up his sleeve ?
> unleashing the ICC and Ocampo after the PEV dust settled. Ruto and his
> ODM thought the PEV issue ended as soon as Kibaki and Raila signed a
> peace deal. How mistaken they were! To the disbelief of Ruto, Balala
> and others who suspect their names were in the Waki envelope, Raila
> backed trial of PEV suspects. This is after Raila had equated the PEV
> killers to freedom fighters! What a betrayal from the mass action
> general.
> 
> Raila looked at 2007 General Election as the end of the world ? it was
> a do or die. He forgot he could loose and vie another day. His mass
> action call gave birth to mass murder and Kikuyus suffered the most.
> Raila realised the folly of his mass action call and warmed up to
> Kikuyus and to the larger Mt Kenya people after he invited Kibaki to
> his Bondo home. He now enjoys a good working relationship with Kibaki.
> 
> When relations improved, Kibaki cleverly pushed the explosive Mau
> eviction issue to Raila and the PM enthusiastically took it up hoping
> to win an image of a national and international leader. Raila has
> received a huge sarcastic backing from Mt Kenya folks on the Mau issue
> ? but that will remain as far as Mau forest is concerned. In public,
> Mt Kenya folks displaying their ?support? to Raila in regard to Mau,
> while in private laughing as Raila?s burns the bridges that propelled
> him to where he is today. Doubt this? Read comments on Daily Nation
> website everyday and guess who are cheering on Raila.
> 
> In evicting Kalenjins from Mau, Raila is stepping on the toes of
> murders, thieves, looters and land grabbers who had played a key role
> in his 2007 presidential campaign and what he is today. The current
> fall out was inevitable. Mt Kenya are arguing Raila is unknowingly
> revenging on them for what Kalenjins did to their Gema kinsmen in
> 2008. What a better way to get revenge for Kikuyus killed and uprooted
> from RV? By using their 2007 hero, Raila!
> 
> Those who wish away Kikuyus to play a major role in any election are
> doomed. Kikuyus have the numbers and they vote to preserve their
> selfish interests ? to protect their wealth. In this regard, even if a
> Kikuyu doesn?t vie for the top seat in 2012 to avoid a repeat of the
> backlash of 2007, the community will play a big role in deciding
> Kenya?s next CEO. If no Kikuyu garners for the top seat, Raila?s
> campaign will be largely deflated as he will not have the ammunitions
> he had in 2007, rallying other tribes against Mt Kenya folks. Raila?s
> political future will be doomed.
> 
> Unlike Luos who openly express their anger and thoughts and you can
> easily read their mind and next move, Kikuyus are the opposite. Luos
> may have celebrated too early that they managed to drive a final nail
> in the coffin of the frosty relations between Kikuyus and Kalenjins ?
> stemming from land in Rift Valley. Kikuyus in Rift Valley may never
> mend fences with Kalenjins. But Kikuyus in Central Province and
> elsewhere have nothing to loose in mending fences with Kalenjins as
> long as that will place them in leadership or the next Government.
> Furthermore, Kikuyus and Kalenjins have a lot at stake ? land in Rift
> Valley. What have Luos to offer Kikuyus? Kikuyus can bury their past
> grudges as long as Kalenjins are willing to accommodate them in RV.
> 
> In this regard, Raila made the 2007 General Election look like a
> personal battle against Kikuyus and majority of Kikuyus believe they
> would not have fallen victims and suffered so much due to PEV were it
> not for Raila. Even before 2007, majority of Kikuyus openly said they
> couldn?t vote for a Luo, more so Raila. Raila?s tribal and hatred
> politics that led to PEV permanently burnt his political bridges with
> Mt Kenya folks. Raila may have toned down his hard politics on Kibaki
> to please Mt Kenya folks, but they are unlikely to ever forgive him
> for the PEV.
> 
> From the look of things, Ocampo is unlikely to go after Kibaki and
> Raila. Kibaki loses nothing since he is doing his last term. If Ruto
> and Uhuru Kenyatta are both indicted by Ocampo over PEV and leave
> Raila, Kikuyus and Kalenjins will be united by a common purpose as
> happened in the recent Mau evictees fund-raising. The common enemy for
> the two tribes will be Raila and they will never forgive him for his
> mass action call that gave birth to PEV and took their sons to Hague.
> 
> In such a scenario, the person who will be smiling all the way to the
> bank and likely to reap is one Kalonzo Musyoka. He?ll tell Kikuyus: ?I
> rushed to boost Kibaki from Raila on slot after the disputed polls and
> you retained the presidency.? He?ll turn to Kalenjins and tell them:
> ?I warned you about Raila. Look at what he has done with you with Mau
> and with Ruto.? The Mau eviction and PEV trials were the turning point
> of Raila and Kalenjins and only a divine intervention can save Raila
> from the imminent tsunami he faces in 20120 and beyond.
> 
> Raila mistakenly believes if Hague takes Uhuru and Ruto, his ambitions
> to rule Kenya are home and sealed. I bet Raila will die like his
> father before he rules Kenya. The best Raila and his father managed is
> a step away from the throne. It is very unlikely Kibaki will back
> Raila in 2012 and Kikuyus are very unlikely to vote for Raila come
> rain come sunshine ? even with Kibaki?s backing.
> 
> Lacking a better strategy to tame the Ruto-Balala axis, Raila has
> resorted to laughable theatrics by challenging them to quit the
> Cabinet. That?s a very cowardly challenge. If you are an employer and
> your employee openly defies you, do you keep daring him to quit or you
> sack him? A rogue employee looses nothing clinging on and making
> trouble from within. Ruto and Balala have equally hit back and said
> they did not fear being sacked.
> 
> Raila?s frequent challenge to Ruto & Co to quit shows he has no moral
> courage to fire the group. He would be digging deeper his political
> grave. Raila is playing holistic politics. Didn?t the same Raila rock
> Kibaki?s Govt from within in Narc and after becoming PM? I believe
> Ruto and Balala have psychologically set their minds Hague is real.
> They must have decided even if they went to Hague, they?ll sink the
> political ambitions of the thankless general they fought for.
> 
> Raila is fast digging his political grave and if I was him, I would do
> all I can to win back the Ruto-Balala axis, to win their tribesmen and
> women. Due to his greed for power, Raila is fast digging his political
> grave while being cheered by his enemies and his blind supporters.
> Let?s wait and see if the powerful Kikuyu block with vote for him in
> 2012.
> 
> Kibaki in his first term evicted settlers from Mau forest. Raila
> ganged up with Ruto and his allies denouncing Kibaki and introducing
> hate and tribal politics. They used Mau evictions as ammunition
> against Kibaki in 2005 referendum. When campaigning 2007 presidential
> elections, Raila and allies perfected hate politics and again used Mau
> to settle scores with Kibaki and assured settlers they wouldn?t be
> evicted. Raila scored political mileage and won Kalenjin votes. Ruto
> and allies perfecting what their master taught them.
> 
> Kibaki has last laugh as Raila?s hate politics returns to haunt him.
> Kibaki is playing clever. He agreed to a truce with Raila and allows
> him to flex his muscle and exercise his perceived and illusionary
> powers (Kibaki retains all executive powers) as he sits back to enjoy
> his former enemies fighting each other and their general.
> 
> If Hague prunes Ruto and Uhuru from Kenya?s political map, I encourage
> doubting Thomases and Raila?s blind ardent follows to keep a copy of
> this story as a historical reference. I love this show. Who would have
> expected a fall out after all the chest-thumping in ODM in the run up
> to 2007.
> 
> 
> P.S. And on the CoE constitution, I share Moi?s stand and concerns.
> Kenya should have one CEO, pure presidential and system. The CEO?s
> power should be drastically watered down and checked by strong
> judiciary and parliament. All appointments must be endorsed by
> Parliament to curb tribalism and nepotism. Two centres of power will
> put Kenya permanently on tension due to power struggle between
> president and PM, driving away investors and tourists. Two centres of
> power will spell doom for the future survival of Kenya. Raila and his
> like-minded shud should seek our mandate if they want to rule but not
> grab power through back door.
> 
> Kumekucha Weekend Special is back!! Don't miss the most controversial
> posts here in a long time this Saturday and Sunday. Topic; The Big Luo
> political kitendawili. Chris is truly BACK!!!
> 
> http://kumekucha.blogspot.com/
> 
> Rutoh V Raila
> I have no problem with constructive criticism. Most people think that
> I concede too easily and too quickly at the earliest sign that I have
> been proved wrong. If you ask me most people never want to be proved
> wrong and can argue for hours just to maintain appearances and an
> image of never being wrong. That is really sad because learning
> becomes almost impossible with such a kindergarten attitude.
> 
> Anyway I am writing this post to change my position on the ongoing
> Raila/Ruto war. Earlier I said that I believed that Ruto will go down
> first. Now I am writing to say that Raila will go down first.
> 
> I used history to write my last post and somebody challenged me with
> the same history to prove me wrong. I have dug deep into my history
> books and I have no option but to agree with them. I firmly believe
> that history always repeats itself; I have seen it happen too many
> times.
> 
> Let me give you the historical facts and arguments presented to me.
> 
> On 26th June 1958 Oginga Odinga (father to Raila Odinga) made his
> famous ?Kenyatta tosha? move in parliament (Legco). He did this by
> doing what was then ?unthinkable?. In a speech he later referred to as
> ?his bombshell in the house? he said that those convicted in
> Kapenguria were ?still the real political leaders? of Africans in
> Kenya. He singled out Jomo Kenyatta and compared him to Makarios, the
> then exiled leader of Cyprus. Makarios was a religious leader and it
> was obvious that Odinga was elevating Kenyatta to almost godly status.
> The colonial government did not mince any words and governor Sir
> Evelyn Baring made it clear that the government had no intention of
> allowing Kenyatta to return to active politics even if he were
> released. But the political impact on the ground was huge (just as
> Odinga had intended) and Raila?s dad had set in motion a chain of
> events that would give the presidency to Kenyatta on a silver platter.
> 
> It was clear what had motivated Odinga senior. It was his deep hatred
> for the much younger Luo called Tom Mboya who had outsmarted him at
> every turn. He could not stand the idea of watching the young upstart
> climb to power and loathed the idea so much that he preferred a Kikuyu
> to his own tribes-mate.
> 
> More importantly in retrospect, Odinga launched tribal politics in
> Kenya for the first time. He chose Kenyatta because Kenyatta was a
> Kikuyu and he knew that the bedrock of Mboya?s support in his Nairobi
> constituency were the Kikuyu. Odinga senior was to play this tribal
> card again and again in his political battles against Mboya who firmly
> remained a nationalist to the bitter end.
> 
> My critic says that Odinga seniors? motivation was exactly the same as
> that of Raila in rejecting Uhuru Kenyatta as the presidential
> candidate for Kanu in 2002. Raila chose Mwai Kibaki not because he
> liked him but to frustrate the youngster Uhuru from ascending to the
> presidency. Like his dad he could not bear to see the youngster rise
> to power above him while he watched. Hence the ?Kibaki tosha?
> statement that gave the presidency on a silver platter to the Kikuyu
> once again and this time round to one Mwai Kibaki.
> 
> Back to Odinga senior; the relationship with Kenyatta was warm and
> cordial at first and he was even appointed Kenya?s first Vice
> president. However Jaramogi Oginga Odinga quickly got disillusioned
> and frustrated by the Kenyatta administration of thieves who never saw
> any prime land they did not want to grab. The Kenyatta administration
> was quick to identify Odinga and the Luo community as a serious threat
> and many lives were saved and chaos averted because of this wisdom in
> Kenyatta and his close advisors.
> 
> Mwai Kibaki took a much longer time to realize that Raila was a threat
> after the initial honeymoon had ended. As late as a few months to the
> presidential elections of 2007 many Kibaki advisors were saying that
> Kenyans would never elect ?an Luo Kihehe (uncircumcised)? to the
> presidency. This lack of foresight is what led to the chaos and blood
> shed that will be the Kibaki legacy long after he is gone.
> 
> Kenyatta identified Tom Mboya as the man he would use to neutralize
> the Odinga threat. Kibaki has identified Ruto as the man to use to
> neutralize the Raila threat to him and his administration. Mboya won
> and so will Ruto.
> 
> Jaramogi Oginga Odinga remained very powerful and influential amongst
> the Luo people but was powerless because he had been forced out of
> mainstream national politics. I now believe that exactly the same
> thing will happen with Raila. He will remain very influential in Luo
> Nyanza politics but will fade out of national politics.
> 
> Mboya was killed and elevated to cult status as a result of his death.
> I believe Ruto will be removed from the scene and end up in some
> prison cell which will elevate him to cult status amongst the
> Kalenjin. It is not too dfficult to imagine the Kalenjin talking about
> Ruto in the same awed tones as they still talk about their military
> hero and leader Koitalel arap Samoei. Ironically one of Ruto?s names
> is Samoei. Read all about this amazing Kalenjin secrets in my earlier
> post. Read This one first.
> 
> Away from history there are some telling pointers on the ground that
> point to a Raila downfall in the very near future.
> 
> For starters he has made the same mistake Mwai Kibaki made in 2005 in
> thinking that he would still win the referendum for a new constitution
> he had crafted with Wako, with the big landowners of Kenya on the
> opposing side. Have you ever wondered why the Kenyattas, Mois etc were
> so firmly against the new constitution (redrafted by Wako)? It was the
> simple matter of what that draft had to say about land policy and a
> truth and reconciliation commission. In simple language passing that
> new constitution in 2005 would have meant that the Kenyattas Mois etc
> would have ended up losing their vast tracts of land (and thus
> wealth).
> 
> If Raila sees the Mau evictions to their logical end, one of the
> biggest losers (apart from William Ruto himself) will be former
> president Daniel arap Moi and his sons. The Kenyattas are very worried
> because after Mau other parcels of land countrywide are sure to
> follow. While it is important for Kenya and Kenyans that Raila wins
> this gallant fight, the political reality is that he cannot. He is
> already a marked man. Give the powerful landowners of Kenya a few
> weeks and their money will have done its work and gathered enough
> votes in parliament to easily pass a vote of no confidence in the
> Prime Minister. But before that the president will appoint a new
> leader of government business in the house and Raila will no longer
> have the clout in the house to reject the appointment this time.
> 
> Folks ODM is dead and no matter what Steadman polls say, Raila is no
> longer the formidable national political figure he was in 2007. If you
> can?t hear what I am saying, then please try and read my lips ODM IS
> DEAD AND BURIED!!!
> http://kumekucha.blogspot.com/
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From jairuschurch at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  9 17:31:47 2009
From: jairuschurch at yahoo.com (Jagem K'Onyiego)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:31:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Fw:ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF
	KENYA
In-Reply-To: <919663.98110.qm@web31105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <273326.97794.qm@web62106.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Abu,
?
Since you support the Islamic agenda being in the draft Constitution, and since Islam is a religious organization, what do you think about Christian Agenda being included in the Draft Constitution?
If at all you do not support the latter Idea, then why would it be important to include these Spiritual matters in the Constitution? I ask this because there is a possibility that one day we might end up with a "deranged" Leader who may want to misuse these parts of the Constitution to bring in things like Sharia Laws or Christian Law, since they are entrenched in our Constitution?
Would it not be wise, therefore, to Leave these Spiritual?matters to the Spiritual Believers, other than forcing them into the Constitution? And what happens to Spiritual organizations like Hinduism, or Buddhism??Or still, to?the Local Religions followed by the Maa speakers, or those who follow 'Nyasach Rabala gi Dwe", Dini ya Msambwa, and worse still those who do not believe in Religion at all, the "Atheists"?
?
In my mind, Religion is better left out of the Constitution, for it deals with spiritual belief, which may have little bearing on Laws that govern everyday life of every individual in the Republic. Insisting on including some religious clauses in the Constitution therefore excludes?millions of?people who are not adherents to that particular religion. This may bring conflict of interest in future.?
?
I would therefore suggest that Religious sentiments or rights be given a "Blanket Right", and that is "The Citizens have fundamental Rights of freedom to pursue religion under the Laws of Kenya." This then protects all, in religious matters irrespective of DINI. Thus every single individual will be able to practice his/her religion without interfering with other people's, religious activities. For, all of them, will be done under the Laws of the Land.
?
Have a thoughtful day. A day which is not blindly clouded by religion, but that which is filled with?the individual rights of every Citizen. When we start blanketing these rights to "Groups" or organizations then the Constitution only serves these organizations and or groups but NOT THE PEOPLE. 
?
K'Onyiego
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--- On Wed, 12/9/09, abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Fw:ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 3:47 AM






Hi Hannah
The information you cited was from the website of the Judiciary (judiciary.go.ke) but which has since been edited. I think all the information given is correct save for the hierarchy?which does not exist. The current set up is composed of the Chief Kadhi and 17 Kadhis drawn from across the country. In the last?constitutional?review exercise, Muslims had called for the the?introduction?of a Kadhi?hierarchy?but this proposal was rejected and Muslims accepted to go by the current status as is defined in the constitution.
>From the information cited it is clear that the Kadhis are not religious officials but Judicial officials who preside over matters which are relevant to a section of Kenyans. With the backlog faced by the courts in handling cases, Kadhis courts do play an important role in effecting justice in the?society.


Ahsante?


Abu Ayman




From: hannah kuria <joekushus at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 1:10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Fw:ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA



Abu Ayman , mohamed osman 
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hope ur well , just wondering below is the stucture of the kadhi courts already in place .............................. kinldy tell me what am not getting educate me ....help me understand ....
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?i found out this correct me if am wrong ::
Kadhi is an Arabic term that refers to a judge. In Kenya it specifically means a Muslim magistrate who has the power of adjudicating on matters according to Islamic law otherwise referred to as Sharia law. 


The Kadhis? Court has been in operation ever since before our country?s independence, although with limited jurisdiction. However it has been operating under Kenya?s present Constitution dispensation since 1963. 
Jurisdiction. 

The Kadhis? Court has jurisdiction regarding the determination of questions of Muslim Law relating to personal status,marriage,divorce or inheritance in proceedings in which all parties are Muslims. 
There are about 17 Kadhis nationwide serving in different parts of the country. 
These courts are located in various parts of the country including: 



Kwale,Kilifi, Mombasa and Lamu districts; 
Nyanza and Western provinces; 
several districts in Rift Valley province; Wajir and Mandera districts; 
Nairobi, Central and Eastern Provinces; 
Garissa and Tana River districts; 
and Marsabit and Isiolo districts. 
Hierarchy. 

The structure of the Kadhis? Courts includes: 


The Chief Kadhi 
Deputy Chief Kadhi 
Principal Kadhi 
Senior Kadhi 
Kadhi 1 
and Kadhi 2 

They are all appointed by the Judicial Service Commission. 
? 
HOW THE COURT WORKS 

The rules of procedure applied in the Kadhis? Court are similar to those in ordinary courts. As such, the Civil Procedure Act chapter 21 of Kenya also applies to the functioning of the Kadhis? court. 
The Kadhis? Court in Nairobi, as a point in case, is located in Upper hill. 
Inquiries by prospective applicants may be made at the Registry. 
There is also a court clerk who may offer assistance as to the proper documentation and payments necessary to be made before an application is made. 
The litigant is permitted to bring his application himself or may appoint a representative(advocate) to do so on his behalf. An advocate of the High Court is allowed to represent an applicant in the Kadhis? court 
Kadhis? courts operate based on the same court calendar as the other ordinary court. Consequently, the officers of the court are entitled to an annual leave, though there is no court leave. The Kadhis? Court, however remains closed during the weekends and any public holidays. 
njoki
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From: mohamed osman <yasabu_yasabu at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 10:51:34 AM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Fw:ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA



Assalam aleikum
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dear brothers and sisters, i have been watching from side lines, the drama regards kadhis court, and only want to assure my muslim brothers and sisters that majority of xtians are in total support of the kadhis court, just very few with ill motive are spreading this false hood, hence dnt waste your breath and time educating them, its quite clear that the existence of kadhis court has never trumbled on their rights since its inception





From: Salah Sheikh <salah.sheikh at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 2:30:39 PM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Fw:ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA





Hi All, 
Enkambi's?power point?presentation was there during the first attempt at constitution-making when the draft was rejected. It is based on falsification and hatred. Nobody in his right mind should believe the content of that presentation.
Salah

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Fw:ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 12:22 AM






Ekambi

With due respect some propagandas which aim to create a culture of Islamophobia in the country do not augur well for the good relations btn Muslims and members of other faiths. Coming frm an institution Daystar? University which is known to project anti-Islamic teachings, it could be prudent that u do not use thsi forum to propagate yr false ideas.

Back on the Kadhis courts, Can any one point to one incident in the past where by the Kadhis courts were a source of acrimony? Ive put forward the view that the constitution itself is a document that is based on Christian Judaic principles and the assumption that it should seperate btn religion and the state is a mismoner. 

By the way we should understand that if the Proposed constitution is shot down, then we wil remain with the present one which recognises the Kadhis courts and Muslims will stil be happy. 

Abu Ayman






From: "jekambi at daystar.ac.ke" <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
To: jacoboaz2002 at yahoo.com; SKIRUNGA at anu.ac.ke; kipjsang at yahoo.com
Cc: jacknyaiga at yahoo.com; abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com>; ibrahim.karani78 at gmail.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 7:38:10 AM
Subject: [YP_Ke] Fw:ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA

Dear Brethren,

Kindly read the attached PowerPoint presentation soberly and discuss.



God bless you,



Ekambi






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From dliambila at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 09:08:58 2009
From: dliambila at gmail.com (David Liambila)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:08:58 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Current Noise Pollution is SILLY
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Ibrahim,

You come out as a bit naive and certainly embarassing to those of us who
believe in the Almighty God together with you. The fact that Michuki came up
with rules that infringe on religious worship can not necessarily send him
to hell, and if you had understood the ways of God, they are very different
from your naive thinking. Michuki has a noble idea which, like every other
good idea, has it's own flows. We  need to be objective and see how we can
work around the few flows in an otherwise excellent idea. Not to begin
cursing around with very little understanding.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:10 AM, ibrahim kiche <ibrahimkiche at yahoo.com>wrote:

>   Dear Kenyans,
>
> Please the minister who came up with noise pollution is not God fearing and
> the heavens and the power of the Almighty God will come on him.
>
> This is a SILLY thought and Foolishness and meant to come from the
> PERISHING Man. This is not Safety belt...
>
> Anybody can tell him that;
>
>    1. The Crusades we will have and let him come with his men and see what
>    will happen. He cannot stand before the Might Gospel. The Repentance meeting
>    in Kisumu 2009-12-31 to 2010-01-01 we will attend.
>    2. The ramadhan will continue as usual.
>    3. The Football and all the shouts and Fun will continue.
>    4. The vehicles will move including his with that "noise"
>    5. The rally including political ones will continue.
>    6. The Chief baraza will move on,
>    7. The plains will land and fly with that noise.
>
>
> Therefore the heavens (stars, sun and the moon, other heavenly body, the
> Mighty Military Angels of the Lord, the things on the Land and Water will
> rise to fight this matter.
>
> Kenya is for God, that minister needs to know God.
>
> Amen.
>
> Shalom and With Calvary Love Always,
> Ibrahim
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From abuayman88 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 10 06:47:24 2009
From: abuayman88 at yahoo.com (abu Ayman)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:47:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Jesus through a Muslim Lens
Message-ID: <976190.8817.qm@web31104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi all
Perhaps this article will clear some misconception regarding the position of Jesus Christ (may peace be upon him) in Islam
Abu Ayman


Jesus
Through a Muslim Lens
Many may be
surprised to learn that Muslims believe in Jesus' miracles. But this shared
interest goes much further
Michael Wolfe
Jesus of Nazareth is one of the most widely revered religious figure in the world. Not only is he
central to Christianity, the largest religion in the world, he is also venerated
throughout Islam, the world's second largest faith. Christians may be surprised
to learn that Muslims believe in the Virgin Birth and Jesus' miracles. But this
shared interest in his message goes much further.
In our scientific age,
the miraculous side of Jesus' story has greatly obscured his role in the
prophetic tradition. In this sense, there may be more important questions for
Muslims and Christians than whether he walked on water or raised the dead.
In the Muslim view,
Jesus' essential work was not to replicate magic bread or to test our
credulity, but to complement the legalism of the Torah with a leavening
compassion rarely expressed in the older testament. His actions and words
introduce something new to monotheism: They develop the merciful spirit of
God's nature. Jesus confirmed the Torah, stressing the continuity of his
lineage, but he also developed the importance of compassion and
self-purification as crucial links between learning the words of God's message
and possessing the wisdom to carry it out.
Oddly enough, some of the
recent work by New Testament scholars seems to have reached a view of Christ
not all that different from Muslims'. For us and for these scholars, Jesus
appears not as a literal son of God in human form, but as an inspired human
being, a teacher of wisdom with a talent for love drawn from an unbroken
relationship to God. Both versions present him as a man who spoke to common
people in universal terms.
Two events in the life of
the prophet Muhammad  may
help explain why Muslims revere the Christian Jesus.
The first event involves
an elder resident of Mecca named Waraqa bin Nawfal. This man was an early Arab Christian and an uncle of
Muhammad's wife, Khadija. We know he could read Hebrew, that he was mystical by
nature, and that he attended Khadija and Muhammad's wedding in about 595 C.E.
Fifteen years later, a worried Khadija sought Waraqa out and brought her
husband to him.
At the time, Muhammad was
a 40-year-old respected family man. He attended this "family therapy"
session in a rare state of agitation. He was frightened. He had been meditating
one evening in a cave on the outskirts of town. There, while half asleep, he
had experienced something so disturbing that he feared he was possessed. A
voice had spoken to him.
Waraqa listened to his
story, which Muslims will recognize as a description of Muhammad's first
encounter with the angel Gabriel. When it was finished, Waraqa assured him he
was not possessed.
"What you have heard
is the voice of the same spiritual messenger God sent to Moses. I wish I could
be a young man when you become a prophet! I would like to be alive when your
own people expel you."
"Will they expel
me?" Muhammad  asked.
"Yes," the old
man said. "No one has ever brought his people the news you bring without
meeting hostility. If I live to see the day, I will support you."
Christians will recognize
in Waraqa's remarks an aphorism associated with Jesus: "A prophet is not
without honor, save in his own country." But that a Christian should first
have verified Muhammad's role as a prophet may come as a surprise.
The second important
event concerning Islam and Christianity dates from 616, a few years after
Muhammad began to preach publicly. This first attempt to reinstate the
Abrahamic tradition in Mecca met (as Waraqa had warned) with violent opposition.
Perhaps the Meccans
resented Muhammad's special claim. Perhaps his message of a single, invisible,
ever-present God threatened the economy of their city. A month's ride south
from the centers of power in Syria and Persia, poor remote Mecca depended on
long-distance trade and on seasonal pilgrims who came there each year to honor
hundreds of pagan idols, paying a tax to do so.
At any rate, Muhammad's
disruptive suggestion that "God was One" and could be found anywhere
did not sit well with the businessmen of Mecca.
Many new Muslims were
being tortured. Their livelihoods were threatened, their families persecuted.
As matters grew worse, in 616 Muhammad sent a small band of followers across
the Red Sea to seek shelter in the Christian kingdom of Axum.
There, he told them, they would find a just ruler, the Negus, who could protect
them. The Muslims found the Negus in his palace, somewhere in the borderland
between modern Ethiopia and Eritrea.
And protect them he did,
after one Muslim recited to him some lines on the Virgin Mary from the Qur'an.
The Negus wept at what he heard. Between Christians and Muslims, he said, he
could not make out more difference than the thickness of a twig.
These two stories
underscore the support Christians gave Muhammad  in
times of trial. The Qur'an distils the meaning from the drama:
"Those who feel the most
affection For us (who put our faith in the Qur'an), Are those that say,
"We are Christians," For priests and monks live among them Who are
not arrogant. When they listen To what We have shown Muhammad, Their eyes brim
over with tears At the truth they find there...." (Qur'an, 5:82).
Even today, when a Muslim
mentions Jesus' name, you will hear it followed by the phrase "peace and
blessings be upon him," because Muslims revere him as a prophet.
"We believe in God And in
what has been sent down to us, What has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael
And Isaac and Jacob and their offspring, And what was given to Moses and to
Jesus And all the other prophets of the Lord. We make no distinction among them." (Qur'an, 2:136)
As these lines from the
Qur'an make clear, Muslims regard Jesus as one of the world's great teachers.
He and his mentor John the Baptist stand in a lineage stretching back to the
founder of ethical monotheism. Moreover, among Muslims, Jesus is a special type
of prophet, a messenger empowered to communicate divinity not only in words but
by miracles as well.
Muslims venerate Jesus as
a divinely inspired human but never, ever as "the son of God." In the
same vein, we treat the concept of the Trinity as a late footnote to Jesus'
teachings. Nor do Muslims view his death as an act of atonement for mankind's
sins. Rather, along with the early Christian theologians who included Pelagius,
Islam rejects the doctrine of original sin, a notion argued into church
doctrine by St. Augustine around the year 400.
It might almost be said
that Islam holds a view of Jesus similar to some of the early apostolic
versions condemned by the fourth-century Byzantine Church.
Once Constantine installed Christianity as the Roman Empire's state religion, a rage for orthodoxy
followed. The Councils of Nicaea (325), Tyre (335), Constantinople (381), Ephesus (431), and Chalcedon (451) were
official, often brutal attempts to stamp out heterodox views of Jesus held by
"heretical" theologians.
Rulings by these councils
led to the persecution and deaths of tens of thousands of early Christians at
the hands of more "orthodox" Christians who condemned them. Most
disputes centered on divergent interpretations of the Trinity. For this reason,
historians of religion sometimes see in these bloody divisions one of the root
causes for early Islam's firmly unitarian outlook.
Then and now, no more
dangerous religious mistake exists for a Muslim than dividing the Oneness of
God by twos or threes.
Despite these important
differences, however, the Qur'an repeatedly counsels Muslims not to dispute
with other monotheists over matters of doctrine. People, it says, believe
differently for good reasons. In fact, that is a part of Allah's will.

________________________________
 
Michael
Wolfe is a Jewish convert to Islam. He is  the author of books of poetry, fiction,
travel, and history. His most recent works are a pair of books from Grove Press
on the pilgrimage to Mecca: "The Hajj"
(1993), a first-person travel account, and "One Thousand Roads to Mecca" (1997), an
anthology of 10 centuries of travelers writing about the Muslim pilgrimage. 


      

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From: hillary at salafrica.com (Hillary Mkabana)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:08:53 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] exercise
Message-ID: <8492F2242D21A2419B9C0AA8DA9B8E7B266D1D@mailserver.salafrica.com>

 

 





I tried it, I liked it, you will too!! 

 

The older we get the more important it is to incorporate exercise into
our daily routine. This is necessary to maintain cardiovascular health
and maintain muscle mass. 



If you're over 40, you might want to take it easy at first, then do more
repetitions as you become more proficient and build stamina. Warning: It
may be too strenuous for some. 




Always consult your doctor before starting any exercise program! 



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That's enough for the first day.  Great job.

Have a glass of wine. 

 

  

  

  

 



From imo4492 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 06:43:43 2009
From: imo4492 at gmail.com (Ogendi)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:13:43 +0930
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] What Tiger wants, Tiger gets!
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Nyongesa

Some of your remarks are reckless and unwarranted. Tiger's wayward conduct,
which has forcefully been brought to light, was as inexcusable and
irresponsible.
In fact, the pretense is most galling. That he sought elsewhere what the
wife
did not give is the type of blame games that have not place in decent
society.
What he did was wrong and wrong again. Way too many people are disappointed
at the actions of a man who is now confirmed to be double faced.

Ogendi

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> A reliable source would have us know that ?what Tiger wants, the Tiger
> gets?, even if it?s not the golf ball. Such is the passion and ambtion of
> Tiger. Now, Tiger is a human being. Human beings are creatures of habit.
> Tiger therefore is a creature of habit?consenquetly, Tiger likes "it" most
> when he ?pulls hair?... or when "it" is served rough. Am not possesed of the
> habit of pulling hairs but in the remote possibility that i possessed it, I
> definately would not pull those of my wifey. Thus, we now unanimously see
> how innocent Tiger is.
>
> He is an innocent man trying to make out for the (percieved or real)
> ?deficiencies? of the wifey...as per my "informed" speculations.
>
> As for guilt, his guilt that is, that is a private and irrelevant.
>
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From amenya.gibson at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 06:06:38 2009
From: amenya.gibson at gmail.com (amenya gibson)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:06:38 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Copenhagen Meeting Africa a show of Unity
Message-ID: <54e76b740912100306l2594e4cnfc28826c21ddceeb@mail.gmail.com>

>From Kenya Young Greens Team in Denmark
Hi All
In spite of low temperatures in Copenhagen Africans hopes are very
high and have vowed they must bring something back home at whatever
cost

Prof Wangari Maathai was on plenary talking about Impact of Climate
Change on River Sagana and how it has caused much suffering which must
be stopped.
Many delegates from Africa were in full attendant and they appluded
most of the time when she stressed the need to ensure Climate Justice
is implemented

Mr Musikari Kombo was the man of the day as he said step by step how
Kenya stand to suffer if we don't adapt to new technologies to reverse
Climate Change,he accused West for using Africa as a punching bag and
test centers for discarded technologies which cause more harm that
benefit.
Africa resolved that West engage Africa when they want to make
technology transfers
The Danish Delegates were found on receiving end when Information was
leaked that they plan to scuttle the Kyoto Agreement ,they were forced
to apologize profusely as most African nation almost boycotted to
engage in discussions until they Danish team retract their statements

Uganda Delegate did Africa proud when they splendidly linked spread of
AIDS/HIV to increase climate Change activities she said most people in
Africa and Uganda are experiencing increased sex drive due to hot
environments hence engaging in sex thus leading to spread of AIDS/HIV
The Scientific Panel where great Scientists were deliberating
mathematical models ,very few Delegates attended which showed we have
to up our initiatives.

Finally the unity of African at Copenhagen meeting will at least make
the West make a concrete resolution ,also ensuring that no more
idleing of African delegates they do meet mostly in evening to plan
for any upcoming events so that they are not taken by a surprise
Also Dr Kaudia from Ministry of Environment is doing a good job for
debunking those difficult scientific terms so that all are in the
know.

All are looking at Next Week which is going to be a very defining
moment as a political situation must be reached

This article is brief for Kenya Young Greens Team in Copenhagen
 edited by Gibson Amenya

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From jairuschurch at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 10 14:05:05 2009
From: jairuschurch at yahoo.com (Jagem K'Onyiego)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:05:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Fw:ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF
	KENYA
In-Reply-To: <919663.98110.qm@web31105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <743028.91237.qm@web62101.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Abu. 
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I still insist that it is safer to to give all religious organizations a "Blanket" recognition in the Constitution. However much you may want to front the Islamic Agenda, in the long run it will bring complications with the Law.
Somewhere within this forum someone has explained that the Kadhi Courts are similar to local Courts. If this is true, why then do we need a parallel Court to that of the Regular Courts to address these issues of Islamic adherents. Are they not individuals that?are protected and will continue to be protected by the Laws of the Land? Don't you see here that?it is already?complicating issues.
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For me I still repeat, that the Constitution must give and protect THE RIGHT OF AN INDIVIDUAL TO BE FREE TO PRACTICE HIS RELIGION WITHOUT INTERFERING WITH OTHERS. I believe the Kadhi courts will not have this authority to give and to protect the individual's right to do so.
?
This is the reason why I say, that let us have the Blanket Clause for all Spiritual organizations. I myself am a Christian, but I will highly be alarmed is I see Christians Insisting that their Agenda be included in the Constitution. If this ever happens, then I will be on a crusade to reject that draft, for then it will be a document that seeks exclusivity. We must treat all peoples of Kenya equal irrespective of religion or race. 
?
Now, the moment you allow some clauses in the Constitution to be special in defining how some individuals must be treated, then you bring in "EXCLUSIVITY",? meaning; in the eye of the Law that particular individual will be special. No No, No Abu! This must not be allowed
?
The Constitution and the Law must address all individuals on the same level. Even the president must be subjected to the laws of the Land, and not the Laws of Kadhi Courts Christian Courts, Hindu courts, Dini ya Msambwa courts, Enkare Courts , or Budhist Courts.
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I say this because, I see a situation where some people will break the Law, and when they are about to be arrested, they will start Screaming, how they are Muslims or Christians and should be tried in their respective courts and so on and so forth. I think this is dangerous to say the least.
?
TREAT EVERY INDIVIDUAL THE SAME. WHEN THEY BREAK THE LAW THEIR ASS SHOULD BE CHEWED BY THE GOVERNMENT LAWS COURTS PERIOD.
?
K'Onyiego.?

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Fw:ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 3:47 AM






Hi Hannah
The information you cited was from the website of the Judiciary (judiciary.go.ke) but which has since been edited. I think all the information given is correct save for the hierarchy?which does not exist. The current set up is composed of the Chief Kadhi and 17 Kadhis drawn from across the country. In the last?constitutional?review exercise, Muslims had called for the the?introduction?of a Kadhi?hierarchy?but this proposal was rejected and Muslims accepted to go by the current status as is defined in the constitution.
>From the information cited it is clear that the Kadhis are not religious officials but Judicial officials who preside over matters which are relevant to a section of Kenyans. With the backlog faced by the courts in handling cases, Kadhis courts do play an important role in effecting justice in the?society.


Ahsante?


Abu Ayman




From: hannah kuria <joekushus at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 1:10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Fw:ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA



Abu Ayman , mohamed osman 
?
hope ur well , just wondering below is the stucture of the kadhi courts already in place .............................. kinldy tell me what am not getting educate me ....help me understand ....
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?i found out this correct me if am wrong ::
Kadhi is an Arabic term that refers to a judge. In Kenya it specifically means a Muslim magistrate who has the power of adjudicating on matters according to Islamic law otherwise referred to as Sharia law. 


The Kadhis? Court has been in operation ever since before our country?s independence, although with limited jurisdiction. However it has been operating under Kenya?s present Constitution dispensation since 1963. 
Jurisdiction. 

The Kadhis? Court has jurisdiction regarding the determination of questions of Muslim Law relating to personal status,marriage,divorce or inheritance in proceedings in which all parties are Muslims. 
There are about 17 Kadhis nationwide serving in different parts of the country. 
These courts are located in various parts of the country including: 



Kwale,Kilifi, Mombasa and Lamu districts; 
Nyanza and Western provinces; 
several districts in Rift Valley province; Wajir and Mandera districts; 
Nairobi, Central and Eastern Provinces; 
Garissa and Tana River districts; 
and Marsabit and Isiolo districts. 
Hierarchy. 

The structure of the Kadhis? Courts includes: 


The Chief Kadhi 
Deputy Chief Kadhi 
Principal Kadhi 
Senior Kadhi 
Kadhi 1 
and Kadhi 2 

They are all appointed by the Judicial Service Commission. 
? 
HOW THE COURT WORKS 

The rules of procedure applied in the Kadhis? Court are similar to those in ordinary courts. As such, the Civil Procedure Act chapter 21 of Kenya also applies to the functioning of the Kadhis? court. 
The Kadhis? Court in Nairobi, as a point in case, is located in Upper hill. 
Inquiries by prospective applicants may be made at the Registry. 
There is also a court clerk who may offer assistance as to the proper documentation and payments necessary to be made before an application is made. 
The litigant is permitted to bring his application himself or may appoint a representative(advocate) to do so on his behalf. An advocate of the High Court is allowed to represent an applicant in the Kadhis? court 
Kadhis? courts operate based on the same court calendar as the other ordinary court. Consequently, the officers of the court are entitled to an annual leave, though there is no court leave. The Kadhis? Court, however remains closed during the weekends and any public holidays. 
njoki
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From: mohamed osman <yasabu_yasabu at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 10:51:34 AM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Fw:ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA



Assalam aleikum
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dear brothers and sisters, i have been watching from side lines, the drama regards kadhis court, and only want to assure my muslim brothers and sisters that majority of xtians are in total support of the kadhis court, just very few with ill motive are spreading this false hood, hence dnt waste your breath and time educating them, its quite clear that the existence of kadhis court has never trumbled on their rights since its inception





From: Salah Sheikh <salah.sheikh at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 2:30:39 PM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Fw:ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA





Hi All, 
Enkambi's?power point?presentation was there during the first attempt at constitution-making when the draft was rejected. It is based on falsification and hatred. Nobody in his right mind should believe the content of that presentation.
Salah

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From: abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Fw:ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 12:22 AM






Ekambi

With due respect some propagandas which aim to create a culture of Islamophobia in the country do not augur well for the good relations btn Muslims and members of other faiths. Coming frm an institution Daystar? University which is known to project anti-Islamic teachings, it could be prudent that u do not use thsi forum to propagate yr false ideas.

Back on the Kadhis courts, Can any one point to one incident in the past where by the Kadhis courts were a source of acrimony? Ive put forward the view that the constitution itself is a document that is based on Christian Judaic principles and the assumption that it should seperate btn religion and the state is a mismoner. 

By the way we should understand that if the Proposed constitution is shot down, then we wil remain with the present one which recognises the Kadhis courts and Muslims will stil be happy. 

Abu Ayman






From: "jekambi at daystar.ac.ke" <jekambi at daystar.ac.ke>
To: jacoboaz2002 at yahoo.com; SKIRUNGA at anu.ac.ke; kipjsang at yahoo.com
Cc: jacknyaiga at yahoo.com; abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com>; ibrahim.karani78 at gmail.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 7:38:10 AM
Subject: [YP_Ke] Fw:ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA

Dear Brethren,

Kindly read the attached PowerPoint presentation soberly and discuss.



God bless you,



Ekambi






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I wish you a good festive season full of God's blessing. Merry Christmas
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From luo31 at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 10 15:01:33 2009
From: luo31 at hotmail.com (barack abonyo)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:01:33 +0000
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND
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Konyiego

Just a one quick pointer to to your analysis

You said "Raila politely asks people who are destroying Forest to move out to pave way for reclaiming the Forest,........... And they go into a cacophonic frenzy. OOOh! Our people must be respected. Those who evicted out our people from Forest land are WAHUNI (Barbaric in nature), they are Tribal and dada dada daaa. For all they can see as Leaders is tribe"

 

Yes no one including Ruto is saying people cannot move out of the forest. Me, Ruto and the rest are simply saying, initiate forest conservation with A PLAN. Do not just wake up and tell poor people "move" and when they move because they fear the force and settle next to the road then you tell them that they have to go where they came from.

 

Konyiego you talked about all the good things Raila has done but you failed to address these missups. He is quick to action with no plan to counter crisis. Have you forgotten circumcision? 

 

Look in terms of  who is the best of the worst we have now to lead Kenya, Raila is. And if no new person shows up Raila may still get my vote. However, by just praising he does we do neither him or Kenya justice. Did you not here his comment about $900 a day allowance comment. Would it be just right for him to keep quiet if he had a different opinion. 

 

Now I am not going through all your as some of them are right but some are way out there and border on blind support but I have to leave you with this verse in the bible.

 

Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? 7 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must master it." 

 

 

Barack

 

 


Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:33:42 -0800
From: yasabu_yasabu at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com





yk92 youths did not finish their assignment, hence they are back with new strategy KKK(KULA KILA KITU). This time around they will ensure nothing is left as per their slogan, we are enjoying the drama





From: Lordvick Otieno <lordvickp at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 1:25:59 PM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND



I've read with keep interest the analysis that potray Raila as a betrayor in chief and the impression created is that without Ruto, Raila is done. This were the same sentiments that keep being repeated by Mutahi Ngunyi, who last week gave Raila a verdict of heading nowhere.
Ngunyi has failed to realise that for along time, all his predictions of Raila meeting his waterloo has come back to bounce on him and prove him is constantly proved wrong.
Unfortunately the overpossession with Raila phobia in Ngunyi, has made him not realise that in all those so called betrayals, Raila has always leaned on side of the people like the 2005 referendum, where he stepped into so many toes.
Raila's so called betrayals like the Uhuru  case in 2002 election which was a near revolution was for the good course and it's laughable to accuse him for betraying land grabbers and self seekers in kanu.
 
It's very ironical not to see the other side of the coin like Moi's trickery of using Raila for jogoo to swallow the tractor. Tell me how many betrayals Ruto or Uhuru has been involved in compared to Raila. Do not forget Ruto's axe to grind even within his own RV backyard with Moi, Gedion,Sirma and others like Musalia,Jirongo, Karua and the likes.
So no permanent enemies or friends but only permanent interest kwa siasa.
 
Talk of mega betrayals. Didn't Uhuru lead the kanu strong hold of RV into ODM, as kanu Chairman. He then dumped them into ODM to seek tribal sanctuary in PNU in 2007, only to resurface to parsuade the Rift Valley folks he left in ODM to come back and form kkk with him?
 
Talk of betrayals but those like Kalonzo, who was offered VP positions in ODM, but thought they were too big for VP post, abandoned the party to wait and put pressure on Kivuitu to anounce the results of a stolen election without disregard to conequences of accepting the same VP slot from PNU kupitia katikati. So who has not betrayed who and for what course.
 
Betrayal is part of siasa and I'm even forseeing the egocentric trio of kkk fallout out prior to 2012, and crossing over to Raila's the Jaramogi Matiba fallout way.   




From: Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschurch at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 10:53:13 PM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND








Young Professionals
 
I see one Dr. Abonyo has presented  a great "Mis- Analysis" of Raila and who Raila needs to be with to win the Presidency. Well this is great. For a moment I thought Raila only needs to gain the confidence of the Kenyan Voter to be able to win a Presidential contest.According to Daktari, all Raila needs to  do is is to have Ruto, in his Bandwagon to win the Presidency. But one problem is suppose the Citizens reject both Raila and Ruto, then what happens? 
Secondly he, Dr. Abonyo is not consulting with Raila to know where Raila Stands. I mean suppose Raila decided that there is too much circus with Kenyan Politicians, and chooses not to run. What happens after that????
 
Despite that I would strongly suggest to Daktari, he may wonna read the analysis from "Breigner" in this forum, before he decided to deride Raila, goring him to death. After that we might wonna ask you to analyze for us what happened that led to Raila and many others pulling out of KANU and forming LDP. Ask Ruto what he did with the resolutions that were reached at the KANU meeting on election rules.
 
Did he Ruto lock himself in a Room, to cook the resolutions and change the regulations? Did he insubordinate his Party's secretary by making that announcement which locked out the Likes of Saitoti, Kalonzo Musyoka, Ntimama, Nyaga, and a number of other Kanu members from applying to contest the seats? Why did many of those Party Members run to Raila, seeking him to clear the air, only to find out that Raila was also not aware. Neither had he been informed of the changes. 
Yet when he made a telephone Call to the Deputy secretary, he was told that that decision was Final. Who made the decisions to be Final, while the Secretary to the Party was not aware? Daktari do you remember Raila clearing the air as to the Confusion by reading the resolutions and the regulations to the press and the public, that he as the secretary General was asking all those who were interested in contesting for Kanu office bearers, as well as party nominations to disregard Assistant Secretary's directives, to proceed on to submit their application forms to Kanu Headquarters..
 
Daktari do you also remember that, after this episode of insubordination, Raila later found out that someone had interfered with the KANU Members register and his name was missing from that Register. Hmmmh! Kanu inawenyewe, remember! 
Daktari could you please explain in a short analysis, what happened to simple KANU Party rules which every Member knew and had a copy of, but which Ruto as the Assistant Secretary decided to change.
 
Fast forward to the ODM nominations. New politics had been ushered in by this one Tinga, where he urged everyone vying for the Presidential Nomination, to sell themselves and their agenda to Kenyans including those in the Diaspora. Some Kenyans who were eager for change decided to raise money and have all those ODM Presidential candidates  give a speech at the backyard of Buckingham Palace. Raila and Honorable Nyaga arrived there on time. But the other bunch (Majina zao nimezibana), developed cold feet and did not go to England. 
 
Even after that debacle they blamed Raila for trying to outdo them. Question is what were they scared of? And how Comes Hon Joseph Nyaga was brave enough to go and present himself to the people? My take is, these leaders had nothing to offer to Kenyans other than tribe. And since out there there was no tribal empathy, but just Kenyans, they had to shy away and stay in Nairobi.
 
Daktari if in your learned mind you believe beyond reasonable doubt, that Raila is self destructing, and that these other people you keep pitting against Raila, are the good ones, then, you might be behaving like the Fool who was on a Frying Pan (Furumbem in Kiluhya), but on realizing the Pan was becoming too hot, decided to Jump over into the Fire to save himself. To me Raila looks like he wants to Lead the people where there will be the rule of law, checks and balances.
 
Now, if you say that there is any other top Leader currently in Kenya Parliament, whom is striving to Lead the Country with some of those Values in mind, then I will conclude that you are at a very high level of "Utopian World". For that reason you might wonna climb down the ladder just a little bit, to the level of Mwanainchi, so that you may see the "HANIAFU" colors of these Leaders 
 
Raila in Kanu, was constantly undermined, by his Assistant secretary, and other officers who were constantly reminded that "KANU INAWENYEWE". When he was Minister in charge of Roads he made a very Bold Step, to bring in Sanity by re-structuring the road network in the City center. He introduced the One Way routes, which eased the maddening congestion that was already choking Nairobi. He then embarked on bringing into reality the Construction of a Beltway around Nairobi. BOLDLY, RAILA gave notice to the Land Grabbers to vacate Road reserves to pave way for the beltway. 
 
At that time Many politicians made a lot of Noise. Some said the "Kihii" was destroying Andu aa nyumba's property. Well, do you know what happened? Ten years down the Line those who were opposing Tinga, saw the sense of what he was trying to do. The Construction of the Beltway is underway. The Man hours that have been wasted by congested Roads in Nairobi for the last five years alone, could have given Kenya a big leap towards Industrialization.
 
As a Minister of Energy, Raila solicited for funds and got a Donna, to construct a Hydro Electric Plant, away, from the River TANA Line (Kindaruma, Kamburu, Masinga and Kiambere are all located on Tana). This he argued would boost KVA on the Grid, while at the same time the Load on River Tana especially during the Dry spells when the Water Level is down making the Plants be inoperable. So Sondu/Miriu Plant was born. Interestingly, the government Faulted on releasing its part of the Funds and Miriu project almost died. But the Man (Amolo Tinga) got another donor to inject more money on the project and Miriu came into being.
 
Right now Raila is fighting "Fools" trying to make them see sense as to the necessity of preserving the Forest for future Generation, but all these Fools can see is Tribe. 
These Leaders, long ago, bought a  "CHEAP LEADERSHIP TOOLBOX, full of Tools, hundreds of them. Yet each and every tool in that box, unfortunately, is a "TRIBE" tool. Whenever they retrieve one to fix a problem, it always turns out to be Tribe. For example whenever an illiterate mediocre performing person is relieved from holding an office, these Leaders will pull out the Tribe Tool;......Yeah! Our Tribe is being finished.
A constitution is being made;....NO, we must think of our tribe.  Improving Road Network,...........NO, NO, NO! now he is destroying our tribes people's property!!!!!!! 
 
Raila politely asks people who are destroying Forest to move out to pave way for reclaiming the Forest,........... And they go into a cacophonic frenzy. OOOh! Our people must be respected. Those who evicted out our people from Forest land are WAHUNI (Barbaric in nature), they are Tribal and dada dada daaa. For all they can see as Leaders is tribe.
 
But tell you what, ten years down the line, they and many other people, including you Bwana Daktari, will come to  a "Too late realization",  that, rather than fight him they would have mobilized and joined Raila in his efforts to Conserve these Forests.
 
Have a conservation Day. But Remember this, that the same Tinga you are barraging with arrow like words here, is truly for the Mwanainchi and Kenya, while those you give a lot of respect and credence here might turn out to be only after their stomachs and "grabbable" wealth. Raila with all his ills, is 500times more sane than the rest of them.
 
K'Onyiego 
 

--- On Tue, 12/8/09, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 6:15 AM





On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:14 AM, barack abonyo <luo31 at hotmail.com> wrote:


Waw what a crowd at Tononoka! As many have said, "Raila is fighting back". However, the real question is, "Raila is fighting who back?". I am thrilled to answer this question. In brief, Raila is fighting himself. 
 
After working very hard to consolidate a pwerhouse in the ODM, Raila embarked on a desperate move to dismatle it. First he disolved the pentagon then declared himself the sole party leader. Things backfired and the pentagon had to be reconstituted. Notwithstanding the damage had been done. Then came the issue of youths rotting in jail after the postelection violence to which Ngilu was almost kicked out softly. Immediately after that the raging storm was still on, the hague and Ruto followed by Ruto and the maize scandal arrived. Ruto was not blind he saw his friend Raila was able to rescue him but instead Raila cut off the rope that Ruto held on to let him slip and sink into the rot which both Raila and Ruto created together. A friend in need is a friend indeed. But at the same time, the person who can bring you down faster is your friend. To Ruto, Raila proved to be a betrayer rather than a friend. Raila became a backstabber. Raila chose to reallign himself with those who fought both Ruto and Raila at the expence of those who shed their blood and lost their lives for him. In this case one cannot blame the son of Samoei for saying enough is enough when he met his tribesmen walking their donkeys toward the roadside where their half naked buttocks was being eaten by the mau cold.
 
Just why Raila concentrated on this may only be known to himslef. "Was he fighting the right war or right enemy". In my view, these fights were completely unecessary for Raila. He should have not initiated it. He needed Ruto as much as Ruto needed him. Ruto tried to hang in there but the assault was too much. Respect was already lost and Raila was not consulting Ruto on anything including things in Ruto's Rift Valley tuff. However Raila still needed Ruto for 2012 and by Raila constantly fighting Ruto, he was simply shooting himself in the foot. 
 
The reason for this war has not been understood even by Raila closest associates. Many would prefer to keep Ruto in ODM because it makes it easy to fight the real opposition. Just why Raila did this baffles many. Was Ruto a threat to the possibility of the son of Jaramogi being chosen the ODM presidential candidate? I doubt it because in ODM Ruto is no match for Raila. Was Ruto threatening to dislodge Raila's silent dog, Musalia Mudavadi? May be. Was he afraid  Ruto could testify and mention him at the hague hence Raila wanted to dissociate himself from Ruto early? Possibly. All in all my best gues is that Raila saw a threat in Ruto and chose to kick him out earlier rather than later. It suffices to say that the relationship is over. This is just a rerun between Raila and Wamalwa or Raila and Kalonzo. It is going to be impossible for Raila and Ruto to come back together or if they come together, they will still backstab each other. Like Kalonzo, Ruto is going to be the force that blocks Raila from presidency. He has some votes. People should not forget that.
 
Now the fight began, procceded and the dust is settling a little bit. Who won and how? I still contend that Raila lost but Ruto did not gain what Raila lost. This is why. In 2012, Raila got majority of the votes from Rift Valley. Whatever Raila does and however he twists it, he will not get the same ammount of votes from this region if he does not work it with Ruto. Infact he will get less than 30% of the votes he got last time if Kosgey and Sirma stick with him. The Rift Valley was the swing vote for Raila, if he cannot bag 70% of this vote, it will become near impossible to clinch the presidency irrespective of how many people show up at Tononoka. The winning votes are not at Tononoka, it is in the Rift Valley. The coast, western and Eastern are always didivided. Raila will not be a clear winner of 2012 elections and this is what Ruto was working on after being mistreated and he has successfully done it.
 
The only lousy thing Ruto did was to join CAMPS too fast. The Kalenjins are very weary of another Kikuyu leadership and Ruto should have known that a fight with Raila does not imply a friendship with Uhuru. The Kalenjins do not want to hear the name Kenyatta anywhere close to power hence as soon as Ruto jumped ship, his best bet was to build a new ship without Uhuru at the top. However, incase Uhuru allow Ruto to be at the top of the ticket, Raila will have a real fight in the Rift Valley, central and Eastern. 
 
For the Kenyan public these things are working in the right direction for a brand new leadership. It is time for the storm to push the takataka to the sea as Raila himself said and a complete new leader emerge. Again I say, "It is time for change"
Dr. Barack Otieno Abonyo 





Daktari,


Do you remember YK92? Do you recall what that group did to the country's economy? Do you know "jirongo" (the currency, not the man!)?
Now, what you are telling is is that Kenyans are gullible enough (yes, we are, perhaps) to swallow another YK92 renamed to YK2012 hook, bait and sinker?
You've done quite a good analysis there, but you missed the point. Raila is fighting not himself but for Kenyans. You've promptly forgotten that all the current flame wars (I don't want to term them political for they are not) are about the Mau and those who have vested interests in it. Please keep your eye on the ball! At the end of the day, you've ended up reading political alignements in the current squabbles. One year in politics is a very long time, and 2012 is 2 years away. Much of what you see now is gonna change shortly. Politicos are always about scheming for power. Remember also that in politics, there are no permanent friends or enemies. It's always about "me". Have you forgotten about the rotten maize? Have you forgotten about the subsidized flour that never was? The talk about the country is just the icing on the cake, which itself is quite bitter. If you asked me who I'd vote for if elections were called today, I'd say .... none, and I know that makes you happy, but that doesn't legitimize your skewed analysis.
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From kioko at franktax.com  Thu Dec 10 10:41:53 2009
From: kioko at franktax.com (Francis Kioko)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:41:53 -0500
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT
	CONSTITUTION.
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Guys,

Listen, we are wasting a lot of precious time discussing non important
issues like kadhis courts. KICK THE KADHIS COURT OUT OF OUR CONSTITUTION and
give us a constitution that WILL GOVERN all Kenyans regardless of their
religious affiliations. Religion is complicated by nature, it exists in two
major forms THE PHYSICAL & SPIRITUAL while it is easy to reason out and
understand religion from the physical/natural side of it, we will need to be
either psychics, highly spiritual or posses some form of
supernatural/definitive powers to understand/discern the spiritual(HIDEN)
part of any religion. Many of us don't posses those powers and that limits
us to understanding anything religious hence the debate of kadhis courts and
any other religious parts of the constitution. Therefore brothers and
sisters LETS KICK OUT ANYTHING RELIGION FROM OUR CONSTITUTION. Kenya is one
nation, one people and therefore needs one constitution equal for us all
regardless. Do you think mighty nations like U.S among many didn't know what
they were doing separating the state and religion? THINK AGAIN. Whatever
happened before most of us were born is history and therefore behind us, we
can't live in the past, we must change it if it's no longer relevant. Lets
press forward and give us a new better Kenya for all of us.
Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
[mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ronow
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:59 AM
To: youngprofessionals_ke
Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION.


Perhaps you need to read the documents you said you wanted to read.
Agreed that the constitution is for all Kenyans
Muslims too are Kenyans.
The Kenya legal system including the constitution is English based and
the English law is bassically the Roman law amended over years to suit
the society needs.
It therefore follows that the Kenyan legal system is basically one
faithed i.e christian.
Do you consider this fair to people of other faith i.e muslims hindus
etc?
Muslim have agreed to submit to a christian legal system and christian
courts and only asked for them to be allowed to settle only family
matters as per their faith.

The British allowed this during the colonial times and this was
negotiated at Lancaster.
This was the only reaso why the 10 mile coastal strip agreed to be
part of Kenya as it was a protectorate till independence while the
rest of Kenya was a colony.

During the clamour for the  new constitution, there is not even one
comment made to the effect that we needed a new constitution due the
presence of the Khadis court in the current constitution.
At Bomas it was agreed that the Khadis court be entrenched in the
constitution by all Delegates except 8.
The theory that the khadis court can be enacted by an act of
parliament is dishonest to say the least.
1) If its ok as an act of parliament why then oppose it being in the
constitution?.
2) in any event the costitution only establishes it, the other details
have to be taken care by an act of Parliament.
Those putting forth this argument know that the Costitution the
superior law to all other laws and they will be the first to rush to
court to declare such an act of parliament uncostitutional.
Bassically they want muslims sujected to their legal system in all
spheres of life including marriage and divorce of muslims which does
not in any way prejudice them

And yes they say the constitution is for all kenyans- true- and we are
saying there are kenyan muslims too.

Haji



On Dec 1, 11:40 pm, jeka... at daystar.ac.ke wrote:
> The whole constitution gives rights to all faith, Christian, Muslim,
Hindu, Traditionists, etc X100, to freely worship in whichever way. All but
one has its rights stipulated in the unifying constitution, WHY?
>
> Each of these groupings have own constitutions that help them run their
affairs, only should they conflict with the unifying constitution, then
troubles begin. No one is saying no to Khadhi courts being in some
constitution, all we are skeptical about is why in the main one. The
reasoning that the other religions have not asked, in not intellectual and
wise. These other religions have their holy books and own written something.
But they too have a right to fight for their right. But what is ones right?
Let's be reasonable and sober in this matter. The constitution is not about
us, it is about a Kenyan people, the posterity, and the future.
>
> History is always the best focal point of reference. No one is telling us
how the Kadhi court came into being, where they came from, and why they were
include. No one is telling us on its limits/boundaries. If we can get the
original Lancaster manuscript, honestly it will help. But for now, everybody
is fighting, it must/it must not. These will not get us moving. Books of
authority are there, let's use them.
>
> The culture of tolerance, to me means, I respect the feelings of all and
accommodate all. I must not have my way, I should allow every body equally
footing and chance. Lets listen to every body, even children. Give all an
opportunity especially the future.
>
> It is not this is our thing, it must be there. NO
NOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
>
> Ekambi
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jasmey Aellah <jas... at gmail.com>
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com;
> Sent: Tuesday 12/1/2009 9:16:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION ...
>
> >Well said Abu, i am a Cristian but still cant help the so called church's
> >dim view on Kadhi's court issue. Its every organization's aim to expand,
> >whats wrong with islam spreading its wings. Have the radical preachers
> >stopped one moment to think and realise that there is one God !! This is
> >worse than tribalism! There are Kenyan Muslims and the freedom of worship
> >applies to all. Please stop hate campaign
>
> >On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, abu Ayman <abuayma... at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> Simon
>
> >> The presentation you are circulating is part of the lies and propaganda
> >> peddled by the a section of Christians who are mainly radical
evangelists
> >> against the Kadhis courts. Just to remind you the so-called communique
which
> >> is being pointed at is alleged to have been ame in 1989 wheras the
Kadhis
> >> courts were in existence even before there was a single person in Kenya
who
> >> adhere to the Christian faith.
>
> >> Secondly, yr presentation is nothing new. Exactly the same information
was
> >> peddled and circulated during the last referendum to hoodwink Kenyans
about
> >> the courts. This was accompanied by leaflets distributed in churches
showing
> >> that  violence will break out if the Kadhi courts are incorporated in
the
> >> constitution.
> >> For generations, the courts were in the Kenyan law books and we never
saw
> >> any of the so-called Abuja declarations being incorporated nor violence
btn
> >> Muslims and Christians as a result of the courts.
>
> >> It is high time  that a culture of tolerance was exhibited as contrary
to
> >> these, we should not listen to such characters who happen to create
discord
> >> among the different Kenyan communities who have lived in peace and
harmony
> >> for generations.
>
> >> Abu Ayman
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From:* jekambi <jeka... at daystar.ac.ke>
>
> >> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> >> *Sent:* Tue, December 1, 2009 3:25:17 PM
> >> *Subject:* [YP_Ke] FW: ISLAMIC AGENDA IN THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF
KENYA
>
> >> Dear Brethren,
>
> >> Kindly read the attached PowerPoint presentation and forward it to
others.
> >> It will go a long way and possibly help to save our country; remember
that
> >> "a stitch in time saves nine".
>
> >> God bless you,
>
> >> Simon
>
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From ibrahim.karani78 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 12:44:55 2009
From: ibrahim.karani78 at gmail.com (Ibrahim karani)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:44:55 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] KCB.Too slow at the counters
Message-ID: <2394eabc0912100944w77eea5e7r17c846afec7815f3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all young pros.
I have been banking with KCB for a month now.From what I was used to
elsewhere,I think the KCB tellers take rather too long to serve each
client.To be specific the busia branch.
Please let no one say that this is a liberalized country.a bank of kcb's
caliber should do things right.do they need to change the way we deposit?I
really enjoy their ''mobile banking" only that I cannot carry cash from my
mpesa to my account.Otherwise I would have avoided those queues big time.we
have become automated and that should be reflected at the speed at which
things are done.

Ibrahim

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From georgeomburo at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 10 15:41:09 2009
From: georgeomburo at yahoo.com (george omburo)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:41:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Current Noise Pollution is SILLY
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As I always say, twenty (20) Michukis will always make a better Kenya. Unfortunately Human-cloning is not yet ready for Michuki.

Omburo

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, simon.wachira2 at gmail.com <simon.wachira2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: simon.wachira2 at gmail.com <simon.wachira2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Current Noise Pollution is SILLY
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 2:25 PM
>    Unveiling the
> regulations, Hon Michuki advised: "Preach to the people
> who follow you, don't preach at large."Ibrahim,
> reminds me of Pat Robertson, controversial American preacher
> whose sermons and vile indoctrination border on extremism.
> Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone from Zain
> KenyaFrom:  David Liambila
> <dliambila at gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:08:58
> +0300To:
> <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>Subject:
> Re: [YP_Ke] Current Noise Pollution is
> SILLYIbrahim, 
> ?
> You come out as a bit naive and certainly embarassing
> to those of us who believe in the Almighty God together with
> you. The fact that Michuki came up with rules that infringe
> on?religious worship can not necessarily send him to hell,
> and if you had?understood the ways of God, they are very
> different from your naive thinking. Michuki has a noble idea
> which, like?every other good idea, has it's own flows.
> We? need to be objective and see how we can work around the
> few flows in an otherwise excellent idea. Not to begin
> cursing around with very little understanding.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:10 AM,
> ibrahim kiche <ibrahimkiche at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Kenyans,
> 
> Please the minister who came up with noise pollution is not
> God fearing and the heavens and the power of the Almighty
> God will come on him.
> 
> This is a SILLY thought and Foolishness and meant to come
> from the PERISHING Man. This is not Safety belt...
> 
> 
> Anybody can tell him that;
> 
> 
> The Crusades we will have and let him come with his men
> and see what will happen. He cannot stand before the Might
> Gospel. The Repentance meeting in Kisumu 2009-12-31 to
> 2010-01-01 we will attend.
> The ramadhan will continue as usual.
> The Football and all the shouts and Fun will
> continue.
> The vehicles will move including his with that
> "noise"
> The rally including political ones will continue.
> The Chief baraza will move on,
> The plains will land and fly with that
> noise.
> Therefore the heavens (stars, sun and the moon, other
> heavenly body, the Mighty Military Angels of the Lord, the
> things on the Land and Water will rise to fight this
> matter.
> 
> 
> Kenya is for God, that minister needs to know God.
> 
> Amen.
> 
> Shalom and With Calvary Love Always,
> Ibrahim
> 
> 
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From georgeomburo at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 10 16:25:50 2009
From: georgeomburo at yahoo.com (george omburo)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:25:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] An Open Letter to PM Raila: JUDY MIRIGA IS
	RIGHT, $900  	PER DAY IS TOO MUCH
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Dactari Abonyo;

If you remember, I was in Kenya and when I came back Judy and others had gone to every law maker at the capital Hill and laid to them Kenya's issue. Coalition government didn't just crop up from no where. It was possible majorly in part because of the contributions from unknown, unrecognized heroes like Judy. 
And while many have since then frizzled to their peacely daily routines, Judy's fire continues to burn for Kenyans. Thank you Judy for keeping the fire going for our country. 

I find it foolish to support a $900/d allowance while holding a begging bag.

Omburo



--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Paul Nyandoto <paul.nyandoto at phsotey.fi> wrote:

> From: Paul Nyandoto <paul.nyandoto at phsotey.fi>
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] An Open Letter to PM Raila: JUDY MIRIGA IS RIGHT, $900  PER DAY IS TOO MUCH
> To: odhiambo at gmail.com, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 1:19 PM
> Odhiambo
> washington,
> ?
> I think you are missing the whole picture about Judy
> or any Kenyan living abroad. Most of Kenyans?living
> abroad are directly connected with Kenya and there is noway
> you can seperate them with their homeland. A lot of us have
> invested in that country even more than some of the so
> called those who live in it permanetely. A kenyan has all
> the rights to free speeches and?can write his mind
> about what is affecting Kenya today. We did contribute alot
> to the prime minister during his presidential candidate. Do
> you even know that even people like ?prof Ghai the main
> achitecture of Bomas draft lives outside Kenya but that does
> not make him a lesser Kenyan than you? with your
> nairobi address. I personaly support Judy for her courage
> and if kenya had more Judy type of individuals may be
> kenyans would not be suffering as they do today. So give
> Judy all the support you? have. You as a person
> why? don" t you give a solution. Why only
> criticising things?. You should try in your life to be a
> part of a solution not another problem in Kenya. Remember
> the wise man"s say that the: FREEDOM OF A COUNTRY IS
> HIS PEOPLE. If the society is not free to have food, jobs,
> health services, pure water etc. then there is no freedom no
> matter what you hear or write on papers about democracy or
> freedom. The letter Judy wrote to Raila is correct, good and
> you can only say the opposite if you did not read it or may
> be? did not understood it. Thanks.
> ?
> Paul Nyandoto
> 
> >>> barack abonyo 12/10/09 1:53 AM
> >>>
> 
> 
> Ladies and Gentlemen
> Let me tell you guys something about lady Judy because I
> have met her in person?during a politically charged
> atmosphere. I cannot forget that day. It was very cold in
> Washington DC.?I had driven all the way from Florida to
> protest 2007 stolen election at the Kenyan Embassy and
> United States State Department. There were many people. Some
> I knew some I did not. ?Me and my Associates were not
> aware that there were other organizers but as you know word
> travels through the internet. Well we were disorganized and
> organized because one group did not know?the other
> group. Judy belonged to one group and I belonged to the
> other. My group chose Alphonse Omondi of Philadelphia to be
> incharge the other group chose Judy.
> ?
> Judy is almost the age of my mother but in her I saw a
> heart of a young warrior.?She?and Omondi were our
> incharges. Judy pushed the embassy door like a young lady
> but Ogego refused to talk to us although later on me and
> Omondi sneaked in only to be ejected by the security. Later
> that day with Judy and Omondi as our incharge we went to the
> State department and?had an audience with the state
> reperesentative. We had along chain of demonstrators. Okoa
> spoke on our behalf. Through Judy and Omondi we handed over
> our two written petitions. Our issue was that Kibaki stole
> the election and the United States should not recognize him
> as president. Secondly we took issue with why the United
> States had already?endorsed?Kibaki as president
> and lastly we requested United States to be involved in
> solving the Kenyan problem. The next day Jandaya Frazer was
> dispatched to Kenya.
> ?
> As you can see, Judy faught for the rights of Kenya and she
> achieved something. Fairness. He fought for Raila to be who
> he is now. Without United States, Raila could be rotting in
> jail somewhere opr in exile. Judy therefore has every right
> to tell Raila that he is wrong when he is. Indeed Raila was
> wrong in this case. Where on earth do you go to beg for
> money so that you can throw it to the sea and still claim
> sovereignity.? If you want to claim to be sovereign
> then dont go begging. Besides, $900 allowance per day, where
> on earth do people get that except in Kenya. Kenyans should
> be outraged instead of looking at the type of english Judy
> wrote. Why are Kenyans so much dissolutioned. $900 per day
> for 10 days for 60 people who in my view are going just to
> visit Germany. If you look closely you may find out many of
> them are relatives of the people in the government. How is
> this diffrerent form Moi's Government when Nyiva Mwendwa
> went with her hair dresser for an overseas trip. This is
> unjustifiable, travesity, impunity and at worse insulting
> the people of Kenya intelligence. This
> should?be?one very good reason why Kenyans should
> take to the streets. How come you cannot settle 2000
> poor?people but you can give an rich ?individual
> over $900 per day with hotel expences paid for 10 days. I
> have travelled enough to know that a Kenyan cannot dare pay
> $300 for breakfast, $300 lunch and ?$300 for dinner
> unless it is a life and death situtaion, even $50 per meal
> for a Kenyan is too much. Even US senators the richest
> country in the world do not get that. 
> ?
> It is amazing Raila was supporting this and when Judy who
> worked very hard for Raila questioned this, some headless
> chickens following their stomach pounced on her because she
> wrote poor english. Sirs, correct the english but also dare
> tell your king that he is naked. That is what Judy did. Judy
> has worked so hard for this course. She has every right to
> straighten it.
> Yours Sincerely
> Dr. Barack Otieno Abonyo
> ?
> ?
> 
> 
> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:50:40 -0800
> From: yasabu_yasabu at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: An Open Letter to PM Raila
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> 
> #yiv482552909 .ExternalClass DIV
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> 
> 
> 
> Odhi
> ?
> thumbs high for sis judy, the points she raised
> regards the P.M has merits and should be supported by all
> pple who love?to see kenya prosper, during 2007, we did
> all we can and supported P.M believing that he will bring
> the desired change kenyans are yearning for, but
> unfortunately he has not measured upto our expectation. We
> have nothing personal regards the P.M, and we went all way
> using our vote and finance so support his leadership, and
> its unfortunate that its during this process that some lost
> their life. Just to enlighten , councils of imams were
> involved in accident from tour of LAMU, where they went to
> campaign for Raila during Dec 2007, and lost one of our
> imams, and chairman was in coma for more than two months,
> despite of all this sacrifice, Hon Raila locked them out
> during his visit to Msa last weekend, and even never
> bothered to visit Chairman Idris nor call him. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From:
> Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
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> youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
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> December 9, 2009 9:38:31 AM
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> [YP_Ke] Re: An Open Letter to PM Raila
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:38 AM,
> Hargwings Omondi <homondi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> Oh I thought
> I was the only one getting tired of this! I find it amusing
> for a Kenyan NOT in Kenya to complain and but give no
> solutions. Kwani Judy is running an NGO that is funded to
> complain?
> 
> 
> 
> Are the issues raised by Judy genuine or not? I think
> that's the way we should be looking at them. Put aside
> the person for a moment. Look at the issues.
> 
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:05:02 -0500
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] PLOTS ON KIAMBU ROAD
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Hi all,

Am looking for a residential plot along kiambu road. Anybody in the loop of any seller..and the costs at hand..

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From kenne2ke at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 04:39:05 2009
From: kenne2ke at yahoo.com (kennedy waweru)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:39:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Jesus through a Muslim Lens
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This is true my friend. But the irreconcilable fact is that Islam refutes that Jesus was crucified and died for our sins. This might seem like a minor detail but it is the very foundation of Christianity. If Jesus never died, something which He Himself says to be the very reason He came, then Christianity is a vain belief and Christians are all lost. That is the reason why amidst all the similarities this very "small" difference creates a deep difference between Islam and Christianity.

 Kind Regards,
Ken




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From: abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 11:34:48 AM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Jesus through a Muslim Lens


Hi

Grateful for your comments. Perhaps i need to add that according to the Muslim perspective, we do believe that Jesus NEVER died. He was risen to the heavens and he wil come back during the end times. 
Secondly, we do believe in his miraculous birth when he was born without any male intervention something which some modern leading lights of Christianity today do not agree with. His mother Mary whom we refer to as Maryam is greatly adored by Muslims and is considered to among the leaders of paradise. One of the chapters of the Holy Qur'an is named after him.
Another aspect is that we do believe in his miracles which included giving life to the dead and healing the sick. Other miracles which are not mentioned in the Bible and mentioned in the Qur'an including speaking when he was an infant and moulding clay resemblances of birds which he breathed into and gave life.
Another important point is that onw of the cardinal principles which makes one a Muslims is to believe in Jesus whome we fondly refer to as  Masih Isa ibn Maryam (Jesus Christ son of Mary.) Any Muslim who reject this is considered to have left the religion of Islam. 
Perhaps i need to inform you that i am a keen reader of the Bible. I do have several copies of different versions which i constantly go through on many occasion to acquaint myself about its teachings. While some of its teaching are contrary to the Quranic perspective, at the same time many especially those which affirm on monotheism, stories of the Prophets, divine laws are more less the same with Islam. Laws like stoning adulterers to death which are used to portray Islam negatively   are even ingrained in the bible.
I could also offer you a translation of the Holy Qur'an and i do encourage Christians to also take some time and read about Islam from its sources rather to get it from accounts which only aim at tarnishing it. I am based at Jamia mosque in Nairobi and would be glad to take you and any member of the forum who wishes for a guided tour of the mosque.

Thanks

Abu Ayman




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From: K. Ephantus k <efantusk at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 9:08:03 AM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Jesus through a Muslim Lens


>From Ephantus k.k
As a christian I like your documentation and record. But i would wish to have a one on one with you if it were possible for i have witnessed Jesus christ...as in christ is risen..HE is not dead he is alive! He is not to be discussed in the past tense only but in the present and future tense. Do you really know him or is it that you've heard of HIM: here are a few facts about HIM:
1. He was a man who lived in judea(later called palestine and todays israel)
2. He is the son of God and he will be forever..He and God the father are one  and only the Holy spirit who is one and equal to the father and the son can reveal this to you. (if you say God cannot have a son then that god is limited to human perception and is not almighty)
3. He was a jew
4. He was rejected by his own-the jews
5. He first came to reveal the kingdom of Heaven to mankind-in other words God revealed HIMSELF to MAN-"it is from this fact that Christianity is not a religion per se" as in religion is mans own effort to get to God. Christianity is far from that; it is not by your own effort but by the grace of God.
6.He will come again to judge the leaving and the dead.In His second coming he will be the King of Kings; he will take the sit of Judgment and every Knee shall bow and every tongue confess...; its your choice you do it now(accept him now out of choice and have life everlasting) or then out of no choice(with probability of experiencing hell and all that happens there).

Man..there is a lot more that I can write;but I pray that the Holy spirit (who is indeed God) may reveal more to you. If you have been seeking to know God; seek no more but accept HIS son and his teaching..I strongly recommend the Gospel according to John for you to read.and why John..
1. john was a jew  just like Jesus and you (Michael
Wolfe) are
2. john was not just an apostle but one who was a friend to christ.He was with him till his crucifixion and death and witnessed first heard his resurrection and assending to heaven
3. Johns Gospel is the record of an eye witness-if you say..I see therfore I believe..then you've got to believe this account given by John


Finally; i do not wish that you convert to Christianity but rather that you may Find God...and this is the way to God:

"I am the way, the truth, and the life: no  man cometh unto the Father, but by me.  " 
I quote from the words of Jesus christ and dare say..if Mohamed said this of himself follow him then.

I am a Lay Catholic christian.You can contact me through +254721374616
  


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>From: abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [YP_Ke] Jesus through a Muslim Lens
>To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
>Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 3:47 AM
>
>
>Hi all
>Perhaps this article will clear some misconception regarding the position of Jesus Christ (may peace be upon him) in Islam
>Abu Ayman
>
>
>
>
>Jesus
>Through a Muslim Lens
>Many may be
>surprised to learn that Muslims believe in Jesus' miracles. But this shared
>interest goes much further
>Michael Wolfe
>>Jesus of Nazareth 
>is one of the most widely revered religious figure in the world. Not only is he
>central to Christianity, the largest religion in the world, he is also venerated
>throughout Islam, the world's second largest faith. Christians may be surprised
>to learn that Muslims believe in the Virgin Birth and Jesus' miracles. But this
>shared interest in his message goes much further.
>In our scientific age,
>the miraculous side of Jesus' story has greatly obscured his role in the
>prophetic tradition. In this sense, there may be more important questions for
>Muslims and Christians than whether he walked on water or raised the dead.
>In the Muslim view,
>Jesus' essential work was not to replicate magic bread or to test our
>credulity, but to complement the legalism of the Torah with a leavening
>compassion rarely expressed in the older testament. His actions and words
>introduce something new to monotheism: They develop the merciful spirit of
>God's nature. Jesus confirmed the Torah, stressing the continuity of his
>lineage, but he also developed the importance of compassion and
>self-purification as crucial links between learning the words of God's message
>and possessing the wisdom to carry it out.
>Oddly enough, some of the
>recent work by New Testament scholars seems to have reached a view of Christ
>not all that different from Muslims'. For us and for these scholars, Jesus
>appears not as a literal son of God in human form, but as an inspired human
>being, a teacher of wisdom with a talent for love drawn from an unbroken
>relationship to God. Both versions present him as a man who spoke to common
>people in universal terms.
>Two events in the life of
>the prophet Muhammad  may
>help explain why Muslims revere the Christian Jesus.
>The first event involves
>an elder resident of Mecca 
>named Waraqa bin Nawfal. This man was an early Arab Christian and an uncle of
>Muhammad's wife, Khadija. We know he could read Hebrew, that he was mystical by
>nature, and that he attended Khadija and Muhammad's wedding in about 595 C.E.
>Fifteen years later, a worried Khadija sought Waraqa out and brought her
>husband to him.
>At the time, Muhammad was
>a 40-year-old respected family man. He attended this "family therapy"
>session in a rare state of agitation. He was frightened. He had been meditating
>one evening in a cave on the outskirts of town. There, while half asleep, he
>had experienced something so disturbing that he feared he was possessed. A
>voice had spoken to him.
>Waraqa listened to his
>story, which Muslims will recognize as a description of Muhammad's first
>encounter with the angel Gabriel. When it was finished, Waraqa assured him he
>was not possessed.
>"What you have heard
>is the voice of the same spiritual messenger God sent to Moses. I wish I could
>be a young man when you become a prophet! I would like to be alive when your
>own people expel you."
>"Will they expel
>me?" Muhammad  asked.
>"Yes," the old
>man said. "No one has ever brought his people the news you bring without
>meeting hostility. If I live to see the day, I will support you."
>Christians will recognize
>in Waraqa's remarks an aphorism associated with Jesus: "A prophet is not
>without honor, save in his own country." But that a Christian should first
>have verified Muhammad's role as a prophet may come as a surprise.
>The second important
>event concerning Islam and Christianity dates from 616, a few years after
>Muhammad began to preach publicly. This first attempt to reinstate the
>Abrahamic tradition in Mecca 
>met (as Waraqa had warned) with violent opposition.
>Perhaps the Meccans
>resented Muhammad's special claim. Perhaps his message of a single, invisible,
>ever-present God threatened the economy of their city. A month's ride south
>from the centers of power in Syria 
>and Persia , poor remote Mecca depended on
>long-distance trade and on seasonal pilgrims who came there each year to honor
>hundreds of pagan idols, paying a tax to do so.
>At any rate, Muhammad's
>disruptive suggestion that "God was One" and could be found anywhere
>did not sit well with the businessmen of Mecca .
>Many new Muslims were
>being tortured. Their livelihoods were threatened, their families persecuted.
>As matters grew worse, in 616 Muhammad sent a small band of followers across
>the Red Sea to seek shelter in the Christian kingdom of Axum .
>There, he told them, they would find a just ruler, the Negus, who could protect
>them. The Muslims found the Negus in his palace, somewhere in the borderland
>between modern Ethiopia and Eritrea .
>And protect them he did,
>after one Muslim recited to him some lines on the Virgin Mary from the Qur'an.
>The Negus wept at what he heard. Between Christians and Muslims, he said, he
>could not make out more difference than the thickness of a twig.
>These two stories
>underscore the support Christians gave Muhammad  in
>times of trial. The Qur'an distils the meaning from the drama:
>"Those who feel the most
>affection For us (who put our faith in the Qur'an), Are those that say,
>"We are Christians," For priests and monks live among them Who are
>not arrogant. When they listen To what We have shown Muhammad, Their eyes brim
>over with tears At the truth they find there...." (Qur'an, 5:82).
>Even today, when a Muslim
>mentions Jesus' name, you will hear it followed by the phrase "peace and
>blessings be upon him," because Muslims revere him as a prophet.
>"We believe in God And in
>what has been sent down to us, What has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael
>And Isaac and Jacob and their offspring, And what was given to Moses and to
>Jesus And all the other prophets of the Lord. We make no distinction among them." (Qur'an, 2:136)
>As these lines from the
>Qur'an make clear, Muslims regard Jesus as one of the world's great teachers.
>He and his mentor John the Baptist stand in a lineage stretching back to the
>founder of ethical monotheism. Moreover, among Muslims, Jesus is a special type
>of prophet, a messenger empowered to communicate divinity not only in words but
>by miracles as well.
>Muslims venerate Jesus as
>a divinely inspired human but never, ever as "the son of God." In the
>same vein, we treat the concept of the Trinity as a late footnote to Jesus'
>teachings. Nor do Muslims view his death as an act of atonement for mankind's
>sins. Rather, along with the early Christian theologians who included Pelagius,
>Islam rejects the doctrine of original sin, a notion argued into church
>doctrine by St. Augustine 
>around the year 400.
>It might almost be said
>that Islam holds a view of Jesus similar to some of the early apostolic
>versions condemned by the fourth-century Byzantine Church .
>Once Constantine installed Christianity as the Roman Empire 's state religion, a rage for orthodoxy
>followed. The Councils of Nicaea (325), Tyre 
>(335), Constantinople (381), Ephesus (431), and Chalcedon (451) were
>official, often brutal attempts to stamp out heterodox views of Jesus held by
>"heretical" theologians.
>Rulings by these councils
>led to the persecution and deaths of tens of thousands of early Christians at
>the hands of more "orthodox" Christians who condemned them. Most
>disputes centered on divergent interpretations of the Trinity. For this reason,
>historians of religion sometimes see in these bloody divisions one of the root
>causes for early Islam's firmly unitarian outlook.
>Then and now, no more
>dangerous religious mistake exists for a Muslim than dividing the Oneness of
>God by twos or threes.
>Despite these important
>differences, however, the Qur'an repeatedly counsels Muslims not to dispute
>with other monotheists over matters of doctrine. People, it says, believe
>differently for good reasons. In fact, that is a part of Allah's will.
>>
________________________________
 >
>Michael
>Wolfe is a Jewish convert to Islam. He is  the author of books of poetry, fiction,
>travel, and history. His most recent works are a pair of books from Grove Press
>on the pilgrimage to Mecca : "The Hajj"
>(1993), a first-person travel account, and "One Thousand Roads to Mecca " (1997), an
>anthology of 10 centuries of travelers writing about the Muslim pilgrimage. 
>
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From githinji4 at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 04:06:28 2009
From: githinji4 at yahoo.com (Joe Githinji)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:06:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Word for the day
In-Reply-To: <612540.16383.qm@web52806.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <157608.70676.qm@web52405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

This are the verses used to fleece the poor nowadays!!! Prosperity Gospel!

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Francis Njuguna <franklinm3 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Francis Njuguna <franklinm3 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [YP_Ke] Word for the day
> To: "YP" <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
> Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 10:58 AM
> 
> 
> "Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap
> sparingly, and
> whoever sows generously will also reap generously. Each man
> should
> give what he has decided in his heart to give, not
> reluctantly or
> under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God
> is able to
> make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all
> times,
> having all that you need, you will abound in every good
> work..."
> 2 Corinthians 9:6-8 (NIV)
> 
> It appears that giving is like sowing. The more you
> give-cheerfully-
> the more your needs will be met. Verse 8 describes the
> abundant life
> of a Christian. Giving and trusting lead to God's
> abundant supply of
> all we need and more, so that we always have plenty, and
> have plenty
> to give. What have you sown recently? What can you sow
> today?
> 
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> Today" by Chuck
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From gachanjajamu at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 04:16:52 2009
From: gachanjajamu at yahoo.com (james murithi)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:16:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] CAN YOU READ THIS??
In-Reply-To: <693601.51601.qm@web113508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <693601.51601.qm@web113508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <519303.10597.qm@web35805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi yes i hvae raed it




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From: HUMPHREY MBOGO <hmbogo97 at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 10:43:47 AM
Subject: [YP_Ke] CAN YOU READ THIS??


Itnersetnig!!!
Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a tatol mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. 
 
 

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From amenya.gibson at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 06:05:44 2009
From: amenya.gibson at gmail.com (amenya gibson)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:05:44 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] CALL FOR CONCEPT NOTES (Deadline: January 8, 2010)
Message-ID: <54e76b740912110305x415a1e94heb157f47da068d82@mail.gmail.com>

Radio, Convergence and Development in Africa is a research project
being administered by Carleton University's Centre for Media and
Transitional Societies (CMTS), in collaboration with Canada's
International Development Research Centre (IDRC).

As a first step, the Centre for Media and Transitional Societies is
pleased to launch a call for concept notes, in French or English,
outlining proposed research examining the impact of convergence
between traditional radio and new information and communications
technologies (ICTs) in sub-Saharan Africa.

When it comes to media in Africa, radio remains the dominant mass
medium, but other information and communications technologies are
growing exponentially and complementing traditional radio. The Radio,
Convergence and Development in Africa program will support research on
how the purposes and functions of traditional radio in Africa are
influenced by new ICTs.

Ultimately, the purpose of this competitive research project is both
to generate important research and to support African researchers in
their efforts to produce rigorous and analytical social science
research findings on the ways that radio and the growth and
penetration of new ICTs - such as mobile phones, the Internet and
other digital technologies - have affected social, cultural, political
and economic development.

The Radio, Convergence and Development in Africa research agenda was
shaped in large measure by a paper (Radio and Development in Africa)
prepared for IDRC in 2008 by U.K.-based media consultant Dr. Mary
Myers. The research agenda was further informed through a
participatory roundtable process (convened in Huye, Rwanda, Sept.
10-13, 2009) involving African radio researchers and practitioners who
together suggested priority to several key research themes: gender,
sustainability for radio stations, the policy and regulatory
environment and the importance of context (Gender as a Cross-Cutting
Issue). These research themes emanated from the roundtable process as
strong threads. Yet, because this is a competitive grant, ideas that
fall outside this list, yet still adhere to the overall objective of
this program, will be considered.

The call for proposals will be run in two stages.

   1. Call for concept notes (deadline: January 8, 2010): All
interested applicants are required to submit a concept note outlining
a synopsis of a proposed research idea. All submissions must provide
the required information and follow the submission instructions
published on this site.

   2. Call for full proposals (deadline: March 5, 2010): Based on the
assessment of the concept notes, shortlisted applicants will be
invited to submit a full proposal. More details on the full proposal
submission process and what follows will be made available on the FAQ
page in the coming weeks.

Successful applicants at the full proposal stage will benefit from a
mentorship program and targeted networking and training opportunities.
Ultimately, the research findings will be captured and communicated
through an interactive web portal, traditional print publications and
a major international conference. Please visit the Frequently Asked
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Funding Amounts

There are three levels of targeted funding, each with different
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    * A set of small seed grants at CAD$7,500 each will be awarded to
promising graduate students, small organizations and individual
researchers.
    * Grants of CAD$25,000 open to researchers affiliated with an
established organization.
    * Grants of up to CAD$100,000 open only to researchers affiliated
with an established organization.
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From info at sambazainc.com  Fri Dec 11 08:58:41 2009
From: info at sambazainc.com (SAMBAZA ENTERTAINMENT)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:58:41 -0600
Subject: [Jambo] JERSEY HOLIDAY FRENZY 2009 - Sat Dec 19th,
	Thur Dec 24th - Club Mt Kenya
Message-ID: <60464.1260539921@sambazainc.com>

 

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From jngure at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 11:27:19 2009
From: jngure at gmail.com (Jeremiah)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:27:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: WHAT DO I NEED TO DRIVE MY CAR IN UGANDA
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References: <3807c35d-397e-4819-900a-ad62e0ed059d@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
	<a55d11ce0912110717r703cfff4ge6e79a21273381bf@mail.gmail.com>
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True you need to get a comesa Insurance option 1 .Or you can drive to
the border and get Ugandan insurance for 4 months i did get one in dec
2008 at a cost of  4000 no other costs at the border.
Your Original Log book is required ,passport and driving licence

Ensure you have what Mathew said " lifesavers, first aid kit, fire
extinguishers " I will add A good spare tyre not those tiny wheels
that come with the cars from Japan ".cops will harras you if you dont
plus its for your own good

Dont trust those "CLEARING AGENTS " as they call themselves at the
border I guess thats how  Paul parted with 2500 .There is nothing to
clear you are driving your own car and not exporting it.

R
Jeremiah.



On Dec 11, 6:17?pm, Paul Kimathi <paul.kima... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jack,
>
> You need to get a COMESA insurance or YELLOW CARD as they call it. This will
> cost you about 3,500 from any insurer in town. Then you need to carry your
> drivers licence and original logbook
> ?What happens is that you will leave the original Log Book on the Kenyan
> side of the border and they will prepare a pass for the car that you will
> use while in UG. You will be charged about 2,500 at the border
> ?I recently went with my car all the way to Burundi and it was hustle free.
> But remember to carry alot of cash for fuel coz ngata huko goes for 100bob a
> liter
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Onyando republic <ovi... at gmail.com> wrote:
> > YPs
>
> > What documents do i need to drive my Kenyan registered car in uganda??
> > I have a Kenyan driving licence and the car is insured in Kenya.
>
> > Regards
>
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Date: Saturday 19th Dec.
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Agenda: Bonding & Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

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From antihongo at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 17:32:26 2009
From: antihongo at gmail.com (Faiza Hassan)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:32:26 +0000
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Defamation Lawyers
Message-ID: <c37ee6fe0912111432v27d4f82fx63a3a9937bceda67@mail.gmail.com>

Do we have lawyers in Kenya who specialises in cases of defamation?

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Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members & Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number.

Meeting Point: Green Corner @ 10.00 am, so that we can go together.

Confirmed Attendants
Andrew M., Atunga, Chris K., Daniel N., Francis M., Judy K., Kelvin J., Pauline N., Seanice N., Teresah W., Truphena O., Mheshimiwa Josh, Boniface M., 

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From dochwangi at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 19:55:26 2009
From: dochwangi at yahoo.com (David ochwangi)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:55:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] An Open Letter to PM Raila: JUDY MIRIGA IS
	RIGHT, $900  	PER DAY IS TOO MUCH
In-Reply-To: <BAY143-W12C6B690583FD0AA20EDC1D58C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <369088.33986.qm@web30401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

VERY WELL SAID ERIC! LOVE IT MAN! We are finally starting to see beyond personalities my friends: Miriga is on board, Daktari Abonyo is on Board; Daktari Nyandoto is board; it is almost dawn in Kenya courtesy of we the people! Now let's pile pressure and defeat this foolish piece of literature so called "HARMONIZED DRAFT CONSTITUTION" and we can permanently put a stop to the this abuse and blatant legalized robbery by this badly constituted and inept government. They are all a bunch of touch self serving?hypocrits who cry foul of government ills and pawn the common man until they access the power and then we cease to matter; ALL OF THEM! They need to go home.

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Eric Otiende <osinde at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Eric Otiende <osinde at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] An Open Letter to PM Raila: JUDY MIRIGA IS RIGHT, $900 PER DAY IS TOO MUCH
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com, odhiambo at gmail.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:06 PM




I must say that i totally disagree with Raila on this?per diem justification. Kenya needs servant leadership and not pampered representation. $900 per day is way overboard for an economy like Kenya.??As a leader Raila should be watching the expenses of the government and trying to be fiscally responsible while providing efficient services. Raila's leadership is begining to sound more like rhetoric than action. Corruption is not only when Billions are stolen from the treasury by scams like goldenburg or Anglo Leasing but it also involves inflating expenditure on travel and per diem expenses.
?
Kenya is a sovereign nation, yes! but does that mean Raila is right? When Raila was fighting for his political life against Moi, he welcomed international intervention, when the elections were stolen, he welomed international intervention, why would he reject counsel from the same claiming soverienity!!!!! 
?
Most recently he asked Clinton to assist fund reclaiming Mau, right.....Sorry but Raila cannot have it both ways, the days of Kenyans giving our leaders a blank check is over. Raila can play his theatrics but the ballot will soon come and the question will be, DID YOU FIND MONEY TO HELP THE POOR KENYAN OR DID YOU FATTEN THE WALLETS OF YOUR HENCHMEN???? If it is the latter then they better have enough votes put?Raila in office. Raila should understand that Kenyans support reform and not idividuals, tribes or party's. In 2002 Kenyans elected change and got Kibaki. In 2007 Kenyans decided the change from Kibaki was not what they wanted. In 2012, if Raila chooses to champion the status quo, he will be joining Kibaki and Moi but his will be due to rejection and not term limit. 
?

?
> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:25:50 -0800
> From: georgeomburo at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] An Open Letter to PM Raila: JUDY MIRIGA IS RIGHT, $900 PER DAY IS TOO MUCH
> To: odhiambo at gmail.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> 
> Dactari Abonyo;
> 
> If you remember, I was in Kenya and when I came back Judy and others had gone to every law maker at the capital Hill and laid to them Kenya's issue. Coalition government didn't just crop up from no where. It was possible majorly in part because of the contributions from unknown, unrecognized heroes like Judy. 
> And while many have since then frizzled to their peacely daily routines, Judy's fire continues to burn for Kenyans. Thank you Judy for keeping the fire going for our country. 
> 
> I find it foolish to support a $900/d allowance while holding a begging bag.
> 
> Omburo
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Paul Nyandoto <paul.nyandoto at phsotey.fi> wrote:
> 
> > From: Paul Nyandoto <paul.nyandoto at phsotey.fi>
> > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] An Open Letter to PM Raila: JUDY MIRIGA IS RIGHT, $900 PER DAY IS TOO MUCH
> > To: odhiambo at gmail.com, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 1:19 PM
> > Odhiambo
> > washington,
> > ?
> > I think you are missing the whole picture about Judy
> > or any Kenyan living abroad. Most of Kenyans?living
> > abroad are directly connected with Kenya and there is noway
> > you can seperate them with their homeland. A lot of us have
> > invested in that country even more than some of the so
> > called those who live in it permanetely. A kenyan has all
> > the rights to free speeches and?can write his mind
> > about what is affecting Kenya today. We did contribute alot
> > to the prime minister during his presidential candidate. Do
> > you even know that even people like ?prof Ghai the main
> > achitecture of Bomas draft lives outside Kenya but that does
> > not make him a lesser Kenyan than you? with your
> > nairobi address. I personaly support Judy for her courage
> > and if kenya had more Judy type of individuals may be
> > kenyans would not be suffering as they do today. So give
> > Judy all the support you? have. You as a person
> > why? don" t you give a solution. Why only
> > criticising things?. You should try in your life to be a
> > part of a solution not another problem in Kenya. Remember
> > the wise man"s say that the: FREEDOM OF A COUNTRY IS
> > HIS PEOPLE. If the society is not free to have food, jobs,
> > health services, pure water etc. then there is no freedom no
> > matter what you hear or write on papers about democracy or
> > freedom. The letter Judy wrote to Raila is correct, good and
> > you can only say the opposite if you did not read it or may
> > be? did not understood it. Thanks.
> > ?
> > Paul Nyandoto
> > 
> > >>> barack abonyo 12/10/09 1:53 AM
> > >>>
> > 
> > 
> > Ladies and Gentlemen
> > Let me tell you guys something about lady Judy because I
> > have met her in person?during a politically charged
> > atmosphere. I cannot forget that day. It was very cold in
> > Washington DC.?I had driven all the way from Florida to
> > protest 2007 stolen election at the Kenyan Embassy and
> > United States State Department. There were many people. Some
> > I knew some I did not. ?Me and my Associates were not
> > aware that there were other organizers but as you know word
> > travels through the internet. Well we were disorganized and
> > organized because one group did not know?the other
> > group. Judy belonged to one group and I belonged to the
> > other. My group chose Alphonse Omondi of Philadelphia to be
> > incharge the other group chose Judy.
> > ?
> > Judy is almost the age of my mother but in her I saw a
> > heart of a young warrior.?She?and Omondi were our
> > incharges. Judy pushed the embassy door like a young lady
> > but Ogego refused to talk to us although later on me and
> > Omondi sneaked in only to be ejected by the security. Later
> > that day with Judy and Omondi as our incharge we went to the
> > State department and?had an audience with the state
> > reperesentative. We had along chain of demonstrators. Okoa
> > spoke on our behalf. Through Judy and Omondi we handed over
> > our two written petitions. Our issue was that Kibaki stole
> > the election and the United States should not recognize him
> > as president. Secondly we took issue with why the United
> > States had already?endorsed?Kibaki as president
> > and lastly we requested United States to be involved in
> > solving the Kenyan problem. The next day Jandaya Frazer was
> > dispatched to Kenya.
> > ?
> > As you can see, Judy faught for the rights of Kenya and she
> > achieved something. Fairness. He fought for Raila to be who
> > he is now. Without United States, Raila could be rotting in
> > jail somewhere opr in exile. Judy therefore has every right
> > to tell Raila that he is wrong when he is. Indeed Raila was
> > wrong in this case. Where on earth do you go to beg for
> > money so that you can throw it to the sea and still claim
> > sovereignity.? If you want to claim to be sovereign
> > then dont go begging. Besides, $900 allowance per day, where
> > on earth do people get that except in Kenya. Kenyans should
> > be outraged instead of looking at the type of english Judy
> > wrote. Why are Kenyans so much dissolutioned. $900 per day
> > for 10 days for 60 people who in my view are going just to
> > visit Germany. If you look closely you may find out many of
> > them are relatives of the people in the government. How is
> > this diffrerent form Moi's Government when Nyiva Mwendwa
> > went with her hair dresser for an overseas trip. This is
> > unjustifiable, travesity, impunity and at worse insulting
> > the people of Kenya intelligence. This
> > should?be?one very good reason why Kenyans should
> > take to the streets. How come you cannot settle 2000
> > poor?people but you can give an rich ?individual
> > over $900 per day with hotel expences paid for 10 days. I
> > have travelled enough to know that a Kenyan cannot dare pay
> > $300 for breakfast, $300 lunch and ?$300 for dinner
> > unless it is a life and death situtaion, even $50 per meal
> > for a Kenyan is too much. Even US senators the richest
> > country in the world do not get that. 
> > ?
> > It is amazing Raila was supporting this and when Judy who
> > worked very hard for Raila questioned this, some headless
> > chickens following their stomach pounced on her because she
> > wrote poor english. Sirs, correct the english but also dare
> > tell your king that he is naked. That is what Judy did. Judy
> > has worked so hard for this course. She has every right to
> > straighten it.
> > Yours Sincerely
> > Dr. Barack Otieno Abonyo
> > ?
> > ?
> > 
> > 
> > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:50:40 -0800
> > From: yasabu_yasabu at yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: An Open Letter to PM Raila
> > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > #yiv482552909 .ExternalClass DIV
> > {}
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Odhi
> > ?
> > thumbs high for sis judy, the points she raised
> > regards the P.M has merits and should be supported by all
> > pple who love?to see kenya prosper, during 2007, we did
> > all we can and supported P.M believing that he will bring
> > the desired change kenyans are yearning for, but
> > unfortunately he has not measured upto our expectation. We
> > have nothing personal regards the P.M, and we went all way
> > using our vote and finance so support his leadership, and
> > its unfortunate that its during this process that some lost
> > their life. Just to enlighten , councils of imams were
> > involved in accident from tour of LAMU, where they went to
> > campaign for Raila during Dec 2007, and lost one of our
> > imams, and chairman was in coma for more than two months,
> > despite of all this sacrifice, Hon Raila locked them out
> > during his visit to Msa last weekend, and even never
> > bothered to visit Chairman Idris nor call him. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From:
> > Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
> > To:
> > youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> > Sent: Wed,
> > December 9, 2009 9:38:31 AM
> > Subject: Re:
> > [YP_Ke] Re: An Open Letter to PM Raila
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:38 AM,
> > Hargwings Omondi <homondi at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Oh I thought
> > I was the only one getting tired of this! I find it amusing
> > for a Kenyan NOT in Kenya to complain and but give no
> > solutions. Kwani Judy is running an NGO that is funded to
> > complain?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Are the issues raised by Judy genuine or not? I think
> > that's the way we should be looking at them. Put aside
> > the person for a moment. Look at the issues.
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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> > Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
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7 DAYS TO GO! LYP BONDING SESSION & NYAMA CHOMA.
?
Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members & Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.
?
To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number.
?
Meeting Point: Green Corner @ 10.00 am, so that we can go together.
?
Confirmed Attendants
Andrew M., Atunga, Chris K., Daniel N., Francis M., Judy K., Kelvin J., Pauline N., Seanice N., Teresah W., Truphena O., Mheshimiwa Josh, Boniface M., 
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Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members & Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number.

Meeting Point: Green Corner @ 10.00 am, so that we can go together.

Confirmed Attendants
Andrew M., Atunga, Chris K., Daniel N., Francis M., Judy K., Kelvin J., Pauline N., Seanice N., Teresah W., Truphena O., Mheshimiwa Josh, Boniface M., 

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From johnnykamau2003 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 13 03:49:49 2009
From: johnnykamau2003 at yahoo.com (John Kamau)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:49:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] DECEPTION
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I take note of Rail?s: My stand on poll Violence, appearing
on the standard news paper of 13TH December 2009. Rail Amolo Ondinga has edged
many out of the way with his strongest weapon, the tongue. I give credit
to this son of Jaramogi for his charisma and daredevil attitude which has fooled
most that he is a nationalist. I take issue with this veil that has transformed
a villain in to a saint. Many will jump at me with daggers at the ready, but
please hear me out before demonstrating ineptitude in defending the hither to perceived
savior of Kenya.

Kibaki has betrayed Kenyans, most of all the Gema Community.? Let no one attempt to defend Emilio unless armed
with psychiatric report to justify why a president would allow such anarchy.?? A medical report will open a can of worms
since he should then resign. Kenyans did not elect a joy rider; nor do we pay
this fellow through the nose just to have him sleep on the job while his
friends are milking the country dry, only to wake up when a call may be necessary
to order Wako or Gicheru to lay off the thieves.? If am long which is possible he is still guilty
of procrastination.

Going back to Raila and poll Violence, asking Acampo to
prosecute Police men who shot and killed those perpetrators of violence is tantamount
to asking Acampo to put himself in prison. There has not been evidence that
Police killed any body that was asleep in there houses or hotel rooms. All
those Killed were either killing, or burning Property. Were armed, and
dangerous. Police men and women are trained and hired to defend life and
property, How did we expect them to control those who were paid to kill and
destroy property, particularly noting that these thugs were acting with orders
from senior politicians whom they trusted would defend them if arrested. And surely
this is exactly what is being done; the criminals now are being treated as the
victims while the police are now made the culprits. 

Before I advice this Saint to shut up about PEV, Allow me to
ask the supervisor of Government business why we have body guards for himself
and other so called prominent persons. The police man on the beat is the body
guard of the common mwanchi. They protect us just as Raila is protected by his
personal body guards. Why is the government silent about those police officers killed
in Nyaza for purportedly going out there to represent PNU? Election was stolen.? Kibuitu said so; he should go to The Hague.? No one has ever told Kenyans How ODM in the
absence of observer?s staffed boxes with votes in most stations 101% of the registered
votes,

So my advice to Kenyans is to wake up from this stupor and
see this entire people for what they are. They do not care for Kenya but their
stomachs. These tribal outfits are just to enrich the rotten lot. If you like,
I challenge you to tell me of one clean man, PNU and ODM. Ruto, Henry Kosgey,
Kanjwang, Raila. And others. Or Saitoti, Kirinyaga Construction OWNER: now an
MP. What a joke. Show me your friends and I will tell you who you are. Raila,
and Emilio are cut from the same material, the difference is minimal. One can
never shut up while the other does not know when to talk.

My advice to Raila is shut up; we know you much too well to
know you are not innocent. First the 1982 coup and now the PEV, Ruto was the
commander but who ordered the war and for what. 

?



With Thanks



John M Kamau


      

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Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members & Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

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From antihongo at gmail.com  Sun Dec 13 08:11:42 2009
From: antihongo at gmail.com (Faiza Hassan)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:11:42 +0000
Subject: [Jambo] Fw: Fw: [YP_Ke] KCB.Too slow at the counters
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Do Equity Bank issue statements?

On 12/11/09, steve ogeda <steveogeda at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Why do people settle for such low standards of service,complain, yet remain
> with the cause of the?problem? Move out and get another bank but also
> remember you have to pay for good service.
>
> --- On Fri, 11/12/09, M.E. Kithome <mayemerald2004 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: M.E. Kithome <mayemerald2004 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] KCB.Too slow at the counters
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, 11 December, 2009, 8:35
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Its not only Busia but also their Mvita branch,mombasa its becoming worse
> day by day.How do 50 clients queue for over an hour wen four tellers are
> serving?
>
> Something should be done immdtly..
>
> M.E Kithome
>
> --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Ibrahim karani <ibrahim.karani78 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Ibrahim karani <ibrahim.karani78 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [YP_Ke] KCB.Too slow at the counters
> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 9:44 AM
>
>
> Hi all young pros.
> I have been banking with KCB for a month now.From what I was used to
> elsewhere,I think the KCB tellers take rather too long to serve each
> client.To be specific the busia branch.
> Please let no one say that this is a liberalized country.a bank of kcb's
> caliber should do things right.do they need to change the way we deposit?I
> really enjoy their ''mobile banking" only that I cannot carry cash from my
> mpesa to my account.Otherwise I would have avoided those queues big time.we
> have become automated and that should be reflected at the speed at which
> things are done.
>
> Ibrahim
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> 7 DAYS TO GO! YP BONDING SESSION & NYAMA CHOMA.
>
> Date: Saturday 19th Dec.
> Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
> Venue: Olepolos Country Club
> Agenda: Bonding & Nyama Choma
> Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K
> should be enough.
>
> To register & to confirm attendance, text 0721 663 208 or send an email to
> youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com with your name and phone number.
>
> Meeting Point: Green Corner @ 10.00 am, so that we can go together.
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7 DAYS TO GO! LYP BONDING SESSION & NYAMA CHOMA.

Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members & Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number.

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From akinyi64 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 13 10:19:22 2009
From: akinyi64 at yahoo.com (akinyi ogot)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 07:19:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] RE:  DRIED VEGETABLES
Message-ID: <819389.68556.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

YPs.

I am yet again looking for dry vegetables to send to a friend in Europe.  Previously they were at Nakumatt, but I am unable to get any at the moment.  Does anyone know where to get any dried vegetables.  Kindly give me telephone contacts if possible or location to enable me get some.

Thank you.

Akinyi



      

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Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members & Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number.

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From jameskinyua80 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 08:57:26 2009
From: jameskinyua80 at gmail.com (james kinyua)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:57:26 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: LYP-Mombasa: second meeting, Social function
In-Reply-To: <975327.79398.qm@web112105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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	<975327.79398.qm@web112105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <65b84ba20912110557i165d6846va309f7e033110d97@mail.gmail.com>

i dont mind about the venue but the date.
i believe most of us have already started travelling for xmass and having it
on 19th we will denial potential members a chance to attend.
 i suggest we have it in Jan. i know mombasa people are good planners they
will not be too broke in january to attend.
 at the same time am making a humble request incase of any working vacancy
please brief me.
 i was certain my employer would renew my contract but nothing is coming up.
(my contract is ending on 18th dec 09)
i have 3 yrs working experience in data derpatment with an international NGO
doing research work.

best.
 kinyua.

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 4:01 PM, DOMMIE.M.N <eddommiex at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   YP,s
> Good idea but lets look for a more lively and vibrant venue for this.Mmm
> Coast Car Park,i don think.Other Mombasa YP's whats your take?
>
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>
>
> --- On *Fri, 12/11/09, josephine Ndambuki <josekamanthe at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: josephine Ndambuki <josekamanthe at gmail.com>
> Subject: LYP-Mombasa: second meeting, Social function
> To: melimm at yahoo.com, jesiakinyi at yahoo.com, paulkeny at gmail.com,
> jackiekoi at yahoo.com, mattenoz at gmail.com, apollos82 at yahoo.com,
> kadvocates at iconect.co.ke, eddommiex at yahoo.com, jameskinyua80 at gmail.com,
> Judymatu at yahoo.com, alkanyoyo at yahoo.com, peter.mtana at ikespedcy.com,
> leemarke at yahoo.com, danmugera at yahoo.com, nnke52 at yahoo.com,
> sallykenyanya at yahoo.com, cmigiro at yahoo.com, wrembobenso at yahoo.com,
> vshuma at gmail.com, polycarpotieno at gmail.com, nanyamal at gmail.com,
> wasonga99 at yahoo.com, wqarshg at gmail.com, gedfreyowuor at yahoo.com,
> c.migiro at yahoo.com, infoo at teamsthatwin.com, makanipius at yahoo.com,
> mack_onyango at yahoo.com, enyugoro at yahoo.com, willisongawa at yahoo.com,
> yaru at africaonline.co.ke, osireotieno at gmail.com, brykarp2000 at yahoo.co.uk,
> ladyn283 at yahoo.com, ndiritujg at yahoo.com, Peter.Mtana at ke.spedag.com,
> timothy_mungoma at yahoo.com, cmogere at yahoo.com, mkiyaka at gmail.com,
> yaris at africaonline.co.ke, davidibuuri at yahoo.com, jessica.kututa at gmail.com,
> okarajoseph at yahoo.com, wreubens at yahoo.com, mtegi_james2000 at yahoo.com,
> alkamyoyo at yahoo.com, nnek52 at yahoo.com,
> Jacob at sigminternational.organisational.org
> Cc: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:38 AM
>
>
> Hamjambo Ndugu na dada zangu,
>
> Hoping you are keeping up the young professional spirit. And doing great in
> your various fields. We had agreed to have a social setting for our second
> meeting to get to fasten the familiarization process.
>
> On that note, we(Josephine, Jacky and some volunteers) discussed and
> proposed two days for us to choose the one most suitable. Here are the
> details:-
>
> *Day:    19th December or 9th January
>         (members to select the one they are most available)
>
> Venue:  Coast Car park - Behind NSSF building.
>
> Event:  LYP-Mombasa social day, meet share(drinks/meal) and get to know
> each other
>         Propose activities for the new year
>
> Menu:  Choma and drinks (each member to cater for this)
>
> Kindly propose the day you are most available.*
>
> --
> Best Regards
> Josephine Kamanthe
> Tel: +254 723 736 086
>
>
>

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7 DAYS TO GO! YP BONDING SESSION & NYAMA CHOMA.

Date: Saturday 19th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding & Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, text 0721 663 208 or send an email to youngprofessionals.ke at gmail.com with your name and phone number.

Meeting Point: Green Corner @ 10.00 am, so that we can go together.

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From: owner-thedishlist at treet.ctinetworks.com (owner-thedishlist at treet.ctinetworks.com)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:29:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Jambo] The DISH Vol. 12 No 50
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Vol. 12 No 50...Dedicated to the Dialogue on Race... 12-13-09
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Table of Contents


1. Intuit's Vibe...The Cold Within...By  James Patrick Kinney
2. Atlanta: New Hope or Just Another Deception ...By John Burl Smith
3. News You Use...Jobless Insurance Must Be Renewed...By James Parks
4. Venue for an Artist...Poor Thinking at the Top...By Dean Baker
5. DISHing It Up Hot!...On Rising Tide...By Dot
6. Disgruntled
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Intuit's Vibe
The Cold Within
By  James Patrick Kinney

Six humans trapped by happenstance
in black and bitter cold
Each possessed a stick of wood,
Or so the story's told.
Their dying fire in need of logs,
the first woman held hers back
For on the faces around the fire
She noticed one was black.
The next man looking 'cross the way
Saw one not of his church
And couldn't bring himself to give
The fire his stick of birch.
The third one sat in tattered clothes
He gave his coat a hitch,
Why should his log be put to use
To warm the idle rich?
The rich man just sat back and thought
Of the wealth he had in store,
And how to keep what he had earned
 From the lazy, shiftless poor.
The black man's face bespoke revenge
As the fire passed from his sight,
For all he saw in his stick of wood
Was a chance to spite the white.
And the last man of this forlorn group
Did naught except for gain,
Giving only to those who gave
Was how he played the game.
The logs held tight in death's stilled hands
Was proof of human sin,
They didn't die from the cold without,
They died from the cold within.




Atlanta: New Hope or Just Another Deception
By John Burl Smith

Whether from down South or up North, Atlanta, Georgia holds a  
particular mystique for black people because of its historic role in  
providing leaders.  The Capitol of a state that was founded as a  
prison colony, Atlanta's growth into the largest metropolitan area in  
the Southeastern United States is steeped in exploitation and racism.   
Its population and economic emergence resulted from the influx of  
slaves purchased as field hands to work the huge cotton plantations  
that made Georgia a political and economic power during the antebellum  
era.

The heart of the "Old South," Georgia was the fifth state to secede  
from the United States and join the Confederacy.  Wedded to its legacy  
of slavery, Georgia paid a heavy price in destruction, economic  
devastation and lives, rebelliously trying to hold on to a way of life  
built on the backs of enslaved black people.  Once the Emancipation  
Proclamation was signed, millions of penniless former slaves joined  
the fight that broke the iron gripe of human bondage, but freedom  
would be slow in coming.  Those slaves that did not join the Union  
Army were simply set loose to roam the countryside without any means  
of survival.

Following the Civil War, Atlanta's phoenix-like rise from the ashes of  
rebellion and destruction was fueled by hard currency pumped into the  
devastated city by Union occupation.   Without livelihoods, the search  
for work and food brought thousands of slaves to Atlanta, hoping to  
find the new freedom the future offered.  Instead, carpetbaggers  
brought a new kind of exploitation to Atlanta, trapping former slaves  
between their old masters and money grubbing politicians who gained  
power through black votes.

Abolitionists inspired by black leaders like Harriet Tubman, Frederick  
Douglass, David Walker and Sojourner Truth had led the fight to end  
slavery.  However, the Freedmen's Bureau and church groups, such as  
The Sisters of the Blessed Sacrament founded by St. Katherine Drexler,  
at war's end began the formal task of preparing former slaves to move  
from dependency to caring for themselves in a hostile environment.   
Government promises of land evaporated for the vast majority of former  
slaves.  Nevertheless, one harbinger of opportunity did emerge and  
Atlanta benefitted immensely as several educational institutions were  
established.  Atlanta became an educational mecca that drew knowledge  
hungry black students from all over America.

Atlanta became an incubator, nurturing leaders of the black community  
for half a century.  A bedrock of knowledge and opportunity, leaders,  
such as Booker T. Washington, W.E.B. Du Bois, Reverends Benjamin E.  
Mays, Martin Luther King, Sr. and Jr., along with many others  
matriculated at the premier black educational center in America.    
Atlanta's white leaders, as during slavery, were avid racists,  
ruthlessly supporting segregation and brutally manning the color line.  
While the veil of segregation and lynching hung heavily over Atlanta,  
a tide of radicalism surged on its college campuses in the 1950s.  New  
young student leaders flooded the city with messages about civil  
rights and black power demands for freedom, justice and equality.

Unable to stem the tide of civil rights and demands for black power,  
white leaders in Atlanta devised a scheme that allowed them to change  
leadership but keep the reins of power.  Managing this transition,  
whites gave up administrative control but held onto Atlanta's purse  
strings.  Whites kept control of the job market and used city jobs --  
City Hall, School Board, Grady Hospital, police and fire ?  to reflect  
a pseudo-prosperity.

Maynard Jackson was selected as the first black mayor (1974).  He was  
followed by Rev. Andrew Young in a kind of musical chairs until 2002.   
The novelty generated real pride among most black Atlantans, but  
whites fled the city for the suburbs, like rats leaving the Titanic.

Obviously today, it is clear the black community was deceived into  
believing it had gained real power though the switcheroo with Maynard  
Jackson.   This game prevented the black community from developing its  
own leaders based on service and community ties.  Instead, Atlanta's  
white leaders ? namely the Chamber of Commerce and the Commerce Club ?  
used Jackson's power base as the conduit to power for blacks.  All  
other groups and personalities were shut out.  Thus, the city of  
Atlanta got Bill Campbell and Shirley Franklin.

For nearly forty years Atlanta's Mayors have been picked from the  
Jackson elite.  The lack of progress over that period is astonishingly  
clear, because very little has changed for the black community which  
supported Atlanta during and after white flight. Economically, whites  
still dominate the city, holding and controlling the higher paying  
jobs in the private sector.  Moreover, the hope of desegregation has  
turned into re-segregation and black students are under siege from the  
"no tolerance school to prison pipeline."

Under the last two administrations, bringing back whites from the  
suburbs into midtown neighborhoods, while removing black residents,  
has been a top priority.  Destroying public housing to clear the way  
for gentrification -- building condos and multi-use apartment  
complexes -- is a backdoor strategy white leaders hoped would enable  
them to take back the mayor's office.  Relying on blacks' frustration  
over the lack of change and progress in reducing poverty, they hoped a  
liberal white woman could get black votes or reduce voter turnout.

Conversely, black voters remained committed to the hope that a true  
black leader will emerge who will keep his promises and work to create  
a better future.  Consequently, last week (12-1-09) blacks rallied  
behind a young black man, Kasim Reed, in the mayoral runoff.  His  
election more so than any since Maynard Jackson can be the change  
long-suffering blacks in Atlanta have hoped for.  Although Reed  
received overwhelming support from blacks, he does not have to be a  
savior, just not disappoint by tailoring his administration to serve  
whites as Barack Obama, who has completely dismissed the needs of  
blacks.  At this crucial juncture, if black leaders continue to make  
promises to get elected but serve the interest of whites once in  
office, black people will lose confidence in the only power they have  
left - the vote.

Atlanta has been an enigma -- possessing such potential but delivering  
such meager results -- yet the future does offer real promise.  Slave  
descendants have witnessed whites turn back the clock on every gain  
blacks have made since emancipation.  Whites have not been able to  
take away the vote, but they are working to make it irrelevant as a  
means of change for blacks. This would reduce blacks to their former  
status at the end of Reconstruction (1875).  Then, black politicians  
did nothing to help poor and needy former slaves; they thought they  
were safe.




News You Use
Jobless Insurance Must Be Renewed
By James Parks


With 26 million people either unemployed or without full-time work,  
labor commissioners and officials from eight states joined with  
workers and union and civil rights leaders in calling for Congress to  
extend unemployment insurance and health care assistance for jobless  
workers, benefits that will expire for many in a few weeks.

A new study, "Keeping a First Line of Defense for the Jobless,"  
predicts that 1 million workers will become ineligible for  
unemployment benefits in January 2010 unless Congress re-authorizes  
key provisions in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA).   
The report also shows that by March that number will swell to more  
than 3.2 million workers.

Speaking at a press conference, AFL-CIO Executive Vice President  
Arlene Holt Baker pointed out that jobless workers very quickly spend  
their benefits and the money quickly flows into and boosts the  
domestic economy.  Every dollar the government provides for  
unemployment benefits is estimated to increase economic output by  
$1.63 to $2.15. Many economists agree, she said, that unemployment  
benefits provide one of the biggest "bangs for the buck" in terms of  
recovery spending.

Unemployment insurance is "the key safety net to help workers who have  
lost jobs through no fault of their own," Holt Baker said, adding:  If  
Congress fails to re-authorize jobless benefits through 2010,  
foreclosures will happen at an accelerated pace, more families will  
fall off the financial cliff and more local businesses will lose  
revenues, leading to more job loss.

Workers of color are being pummeled by the recession.  Unemployment  
for African Americans is now 15.6 percent and 12.7 percent among  
Latinos. Some 40 percent of African American and Latino workers will  
be unemployed or underemployed at some point in 2010.

Holt Baker pointed out that extending the lifeline for families hard  
hit by the recession is the first point of the AFL-CIO's five-part  
plan for immediate job creation. The other four points are: (1)  
Investing now to rebuild America's schools, roads, sewers, parks and  
energy infrastructure, accelerating the shift to clean renewable  
energy; (2) Increasing aid to state and local governments to maintain  
vital services and avoid unnecessary layoffs and tax increases; (3)  
Putting people back to work in good jobs with good labor protections  
doing work that needs to be done, while making sure not to replace  
existing jobs; and (3) Easing the credit crunch by using TARP funds to  
lend directly to small and medium-size businesses on Main Street.

The study was released by the National Employment Law Project (NELP),  
the Center for American Progress Action Fund and The Half in Ten  
Campaign.

The benefits provided by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act  
include up to 73 weeks of federal unemployment benefit extensions and  
a subsidy covering 65 percent of the cost of COBRA premiums for  
unemployed workers.

Holt Baker sums it up this way:  The consequences of not acting are  
unthinkable.  We would see more lives put on hold, more homes lost and  
more communities threatened.  The cost of not doing anything is far  
greater than the cost of continuing these essential benefits through  
the end of 2010. Extending unemployment benefits and COBRA coverage is  
the right thing to do - for the unemployed and for all of us.

To read the report, click on  
http://nelp.3cdn.net/83db1e0ad0574237c7_dzm6i6dl0.pdf.




Venue for an Artist
Poor Thinking at the Top
By Dean Baker

The United States has more than 15 million people unemployed. This is  
not their fault. It is the fault of really bad policy decisions by  
people who get paid more than almost all of the unemployed ever did or  
ever will. The failure of economic policymakers to recognize and  
attack an $8 trillion housing bubble led to the downturn. The  
continuing failure of economic policymakers to think creatively is why  
15 million people remain unemployed.

The basic problem of unemployment is in fact a very simple one; we  
don't have enough demand in the economy.  The collapse of bubbles in  
both residential and nonresidential construction led to a falloff in  
annual construction of close to $700 billion. The disappearance of  
more than $6 trillion in housing bubble wealth has forced consumers to  
pare consumption by approximately $500 billion a year. This creates a  
total shortfall in annual demand of $1.2 trillion.

In the face of inadequate demand, people lose their jobs. There is not  
enough demand for houses, cars, restaurant meals and thousands of  
other goods and services to keep everyone employed.

One way to fix the problem is to create more demand.  That was the  
point of the stimulus package passed last February. This helped, but  
it was nowhere near big enough.

Subtracting out tax accounting measures (the alternative minimum tax  
fix) and spending to come in 2011 and later, the stimulus was about  
$300 billion for both 2009 and 2010. The federal stimulus is also  
being offset by approximately $150 billion in annual budget cuts at  
the state and local level. This leaves a net stimulus from the  
government sector of around $150 billion a year. This will not offset  
a loss in annual demand of $1.2 trillion; it's like trying to fill a  
swimming pool with five buckets of water.

In principle, the federal government could spend much money on  
stimulus until it has generated enough demand to get the unemployed  
back to work. For political reasons, this doesn't seem possible. The  
deficit fixation in Washington is preventing effective action, just as  
a balanced budget craze in the '30s forced Roosevelt to cutback the  
deficit in 1937, throwing the economy into another recession.

If politics makes it impossible to increase the demand for labor, an  
alternative way to create jobs is through decreasing the supply of  
labor. Specifically, employers can be given an incentive to cut the  
hours of their current workforce, while keeping their pay constant.  
This should then cause them to hire more workers. This is not an  
untested idea. Germany has used work sharing tax credits to keep its  
unemployment rate from rising in this downturn, even though its  
recession has been more severe than ours.

There are proposals for using this sort of work sharing being  
considered in both houses of Congress at the moment. Sen. Jack Reed  
(D-Rhode Island) and Rep. Rosa DeLauro have both introduced bills that  
would build upon work-share programs that already exist in 17 states.  
These programs allow employers to use unemployment insurance funds to  
keep workers employed at shorter hours, rather than laying them off  
and collecting unemployment benefits. These bills would provide  
additional funding to the existing programs so that they would be more  
widely used and help the other states establish work-share programs.

Rep. John Conyers has proposed a tax credit that would allow employers  
to reduce work time, while still maintaining their pay, and thereby  
creating the demand for more workers. This route has the benefit of  
allowing employers to try to innovate at their workplace, even if they  
are not currently planning layoffs, so it could have a much broader  
impact.

However, it is important to remember that nearly two million workers  
are still losing their job each month. The jobs' figure that is  
reported each month is a net figure. It shows how many jobs the  
economy has gained or loss after adding up all the workers hired or  
fired.  If we reduce the gross monthly job loss figure by 10 percent,  
or 200,000 workers, it has the same impact on employment as adding 2.4  
million jobs. This means that even though the Conyers bill would have  
a broader impact, even the Reed-DeLauro bills could lead to many more  
jobs being created.

It is important to realize that work sharing can also have a lasting  
impact on the structure of work. There have been major efforts by  
labor unions and women's organizations to make the workplace more  
family friendly through paid family leave, paid sick days and paid  
vacation. These work-share programs offer an opportunity to both  
quickly reduce unemployment and lay a basis for lasting change in this  
area. Companies can take advantage of these programs to experiment  
with paid sick days or family leave. If they work, they are likely to  
leave these policies in place even after the public funding is no  
longer there.

It is absolutely unacceptable to have 15 million people unemployed  
just because the people who call the shots are too dumb to figure out  
how to get them back to work. We got into this mess because the people  
on top didn't know what they were doing. We shouldn't have to stay  
here because they still can't figure things out.

In Germany, they are experiencing the recession through short  
workweeks and longer vacations, rather than mass unemployment. We  
should be doing the same here.

About Me:  Baker is the Co-director of the Center for Economic and  
Policy Research. CEPR's Jobs Byte is published each month upon release  
of the Bureau of Labor Statistics' employment report.  This article  
appeared in www.truthout.org.



DISHing It Up Hot!
On Rising Tide
By Dot

In 1992, after twelve (12) long years of Republican leadership, the  
country was ready for change.  With the inauguration of a new  
administration, there was hope for better days ahead, especially among  
black Americans, who were "sick and tired" of Reagan-Bush "trickle  
down" economic policies.  Indeed, there was a sense that Bill Clinton  
was the "first black" president.  Former President Clinton openly  
spoke about conditions in the black community, even recalling for  
public consumption his experiences with racism while growing up in  
Arkansas.  Clinton's racial rhetoric led many to believe he intended  
to work for change in this arena.  And, indeed he did.

Under Clinton's leadership, a rising economic tide lifted all boats.   
Like whites, the black American median family income rose.  Clinton  
employed black Americans in his administration and opened a dialogue  
on race.  Unfortunately, the dialogue went nowhere and the economic  
bubble that lifted all boats burst, leaving black Americans worse off  
than before Clinton took the reins of leadership.

Indeed, rather than providing the change we desperately needed,  
Clinton moved to the right of center following the 1996 national  
elections and embraced the Republicans' "Contract with America," which  
changed, among other things, "welfare" as we knew it.  That change has  
proven to be an unmitigated disaster, according to a new study,  
"Battered by the Storm," to be released on Monday by the Institute of  
Policy Studies.  Co-authored by Georgetown Law Center Professor Peter  
Edelman and Barbara Ehrenreich, the study shows that welfare reform  
has left the US with a tattered safety net in the midst of the worst  
economic decline since the Great Depression.  In fact, "America's 1996  
experiment with welfare reform was based on reckless assumptions about  
the economy, as well as a callous disregard for the realities of  
sustaining a family.  We need a massive emergency relief package not  
only to fund new jobs but to repair the grievous holes in our national  
safety net. Fifty million people need help now ? not in three months  
or six months, but today."  (Source: Why Welfare Reform Fails Its  
Recession Test, Washington Post, 12/6/09)

To pursue the policy suggestions contained in "Battered by the Storm"  
will require leadership that is not forthcoming from either the White  
House or Congress.  Both executive and legislative branches of  
government seem more committed to warfare and the welfare of the  
financial sector than ensuring average Americans are fed, clothed and  
sheltered from the ravages of the current economic storm.  Hence,  
there is rising disappointment with our current Democratic leadership.

Granted, none expected change to occur in an instant, following the  
swearing-in ceremony or even after a year or two in office.  Yet, to  
keep hope alive, the leader must speak of change; jawboning is a very  
important tool that can lead to concrete changes.

No group of Americans is more supportive of President Barack Obama  
than the black community, which has been severely battered by this  
recession.  The official black unemployment rate for November stood at  
15.6%, down marginally .1% from October.  The white unemployment rate  
was 9.3% down .2% from the previous month's 9.5%.  We know the  
official unemployment rate bears little resemblance to reality.  In  
some urban areas, the black unemployment rate exceeds twenty percent.   
The black community is in the throes of a "Great Depression."

In response to these difficult economic times, President Obama  
recently said, "The most important thing I can do for the  
African-American community is the same thing I can do for the American  
community, period, and that is get the economy going again and get  
people hiring again." (Source: President Obama says he won't put focus  
on "Blacks Troubles, USA Today, 12/3/09)

Evidently, like Clinton, who seemed to genuinely want to help black  
Americans, Obama, who seems to only want black votes, has bought into  
the flawed notion of a rising tide.   The flaw is the assumption that  
all are able to take advantage of a rising tide.  That is, everyone  
has a boat with oars and strong arms with which to row.  Furthermore,  
no one's boat sits in an area where water no longer flows because of a  
manmade dam, also known as institutionalized racism.

We know from historic economic data that no such level economic  
playing field exists in America.  Whether the economic tide is rising  
or falling, black Americans are experiencing conditions dictated by  
the pattern of employment, such that at any given time, blacks are  
twice as likely as their white counterparts to be unemployed.  The  
resulting median black family income is roughly three-fifths that of  
whites, mimicking the 3/5 Compromise found in Article 1 Section 2 of  
the US Constitution.  The black-white median family income gap closed  
slightly during the Clinton administration; it has since widened after  
eight years of Bush efforts to dismantle those socioeconomic gains.

If our current president does not understand black history and lead  
the way to dismantling the manmade dam of institutionalized racism  
that prevents water from flowing into black communities, the rising  
tide that lifts all boats will leave in its wake blacks mired in the  
economically disadvantaged state, relative to whites, in which they  
have existed since the founding fathers codified slavery.  That is not  
the kind of change blacks who braved freezing temperatures to witness  
the inauguration of Barack Obama expected.




Disgruntled feels: Failure!  A November 26, 2009 posting on  
AlterNet.com entitled "Bailed-Out AIG Forcing Poor to Choose Between  
Running Water and Food" by Yasha Levine chronicles the saga of poor  
folks in two impoverished southern Kentucky towns, where the  
unemployment rate is close to 30%.  Because the state is so poor, half  
of those eligible to receive unemployment benefits in the towns of  
Middlesboro and Clinton do not receive them.  These Kentucky towns  
have a per capita income that is little more than what workers earn in  
third-world Mexico.   To add insult to injury, their residents are  
being fleeced into deeper poverty by the insurance giant, which  
controls water utilities across seventeen (17) states.   According to  
Levine,  "Bailed-out insurance villain AIG took over their water  
utility and instantly raised rates to squeeze an extra $1 million in  
profits out of its new customers, forcing some to consider choosing  
between running water and food."   In addition to raising water rates,  
the residents of these towns are experiencing the same kind of late  
fee trickery endured by bailed-out banks' customers.   According to  
Levine, the experience of these towns with privatized infrastructure  
provides a glimpse of post-privatized America.  It is not a pretty  
picture.  To allow large swaths of the nation's infrastructure to be  
controlled by for-profit private enterprises is tantamount to a  
failure of foresight and recipe for disaster.

Disgruntled says:  On Wednesday, a group of Democrats with close ties  
to Wall Street forced a delay in consideration of the financial  
regulatory reform.  Apparently, Wall Street's big banks do not like  
the idea of the Consumer Financial Protection Agency and want the  
provision removed from the regulatory reform measure.  Naturally, Wall  
Street does not want a watchdog guarding the interests of American  
consumers; it just might prevent the wholesale fleecing that has gone  
on heretofore.  Since Republicans are unlikely to vote for any banking  
reform legislation, without the full support of a significant majority  
of Democrats, financial regulatory reform is a non-starter.  The  
financial sector, which has poured millions into Democratic and  
Republican campaign coffers, knows it can pull enough strings to shape  
any legislation that comes to the floor for a vote.  When Congress  
fails to produce a Consumer Financial Protection Agency, if any  
financial regulatory measure comes up for a vote and/or passes, we  
will witness leadership for the banking and financial services  
industry in action.  It is the kind of leadership one should expect  
from the best Congress money can buy.

Disgruntled wants to know: There is plenty of talk about an improving  
US economy.  The unemployment rate fell in November, stocks are up and  
the holiday shopping numbers look good.  It is a feel-good moment!   
However, not everyone is convinced the worst of the recession is  
behind us.  Some economists tell a cautionary tale about the Great  
Depression, reminding us that a double dip is possible, nay likely,  
with employment slow to recover.  But, this is the season of Jolly Old  
St. Nick and no one wants to consider the prospect of things getting  
worse in the New Year.  Unfortunately, there are some signs that  
scream for attention, even as we celebrate this season.  For instance,  
McDonald's, the fast food restaurant that benefitted greatly at the  
beginning of the economic downturn because many of the people who eat  
out ditched pricier diners for McDonald's dollar menu fare, announced  
it suffered its second consecutive monthly decline in US sales in  
November.  If one considers McDonald's an economic barometer, could  
its decline in fast food sales a harbinger of things to come?



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From chamkaa at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 13 15:49:44 2009
From: chamkaa at yahoo.com (David B)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:49:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: AFRICA WILL NEVER BE BETTER
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Friends, I have enough reason to conclude that Africa will never climb out of its quagmires.

Good example of how we are unable to solve even the simplest of our problems is Mau. An "intelligent"
Prime minister orders people out of the forest without an audit of who
they are, how many they are, where they came from by verification at
the Lands office of who has or does not have land. thye just rushed to
evict them out of their homes during heavy rains and national school
final exams.? did it have to happen only at this very time during
exams? during rain? when crops are maturing for harvest?? could it have
waited for just two or three monts for crops to be harvested, exams
completed, and rains to stop? Now they are complaining of the camps
having been infiltrated by impositers? Did they try to, first, know who
is coming out of the forest?? Even a mentally retarded persons here in
America would have done much better calculation of this situation than
so called "presidents and prime ministers of Africa" Did I hear it was
done in the name of government decision? "parliament" (210 leaders).?
Even if they were bypassed, how could they allow this stupidity to
happen in the name of the '"governemnt decision"? How we handle the
simplest of our problems tells how high we can rise.? Is it a suprise
we will only bless this world with poverty, diseases, civil wars and
naked hungry children in the slums?? We could not even plan our
settlements for organized better living. Only chaos from city to
mashambani. Even land that gives us food, we are unable to manage for
maximum and miningful cultivation.? At independence, the only
intelligent thing we could accomplish was for the "president's" tribe
to acquire land from other tribes as much and fast as possible. What
really is our problem?

?

Fake Mau settlers line up for payout (is this really a problem to puzzle an entire system?)


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A policeman inspects one of the vacant tents during the night at the
Kapkembu camp in Kuresoi District where those evicted from Mau Forest
are camping. A survey conducted by the Nation found that people posing
as evicted have started trooping into the camps. Photo/HEZRON NJOROGE?


    By?JOY WANJA and GEORGE SAYAGIEPosted?Sunday, December 13?2009?at?21:11

    

        
Tricksters have infiltrated camps for people evicted from Mau Forest putting into jeopardy the government?s compensation plan.

        Related Stories
                        For the genuinely evicted, it's a miserable lifeFormer squatter, 72, dies from cold Mau children get a first sight of mzungu 
                    

The taxpayer now stands to lose millions of shillings if the imposters are not identified and kicked out, the Nation has learnt.
Scores
of residents of the reserve areas near the camps have assumed the
status of refugees by day and home owners at night, in a ploy to
benefit from a resettlement package that may be given to the displaced
persons. The government?s own audit has confirmed that nearly 3,000
homesteads in the camps are those of imposters.
Mau is
Kenya?s largest indigenous forest and the biggest water tower with at
least 12 rivers originating from it. They include Ewaso Ng?iro, Sondu,
Mara and Njoro and encroachment on it has led to the drying up of
several lakes in the Rift Valley, which solely feed off its waters.
Mau?s
strategic importance lies in the ecosystem services it provides to
Kenya and beyond, including the regulation of river flow, flood
mitigation, water storage, reduced soil erosion and biodiversity.
Its
continued destruction, therefore, threatens to cause a water crisis of
national and regional proportions that could extend far beyond the
borders of Kenya.
Daily Nation journalists
visited camps at Kipkongor and Kurbanyat where more than 1,000 families
ordered out of the forest in the first phase of evictions are staying.
The
visit established that while the tents are fully occupied with men,
women and children during the day, many of them were vacant at night.
Transition camps
Mr
Ezekiel Kirui, the vice-chair of the camp, confirmed that many people
from the nearby Kapkembu settlement scheme were masquerading as having
been evicted and have been trickling to the transitional camps during
the day. At night their tents are deserted.
Mr Kirui
who moved out of Tilolwet Village in the forest, said: ?Some of us in
these camps are land speculators and are here expecting to hijack the
opportunity and get compensation.? 
He said the
number of those evicted in a camp called Tarta had shot up since the
government announced a Sh35,000 compensation for the victims. 
The
cheats are also benefiting from humanitarian aid of food, blankets and
medicine provided by charitable organisations and the government.
This had drastically reduced the rations for genuine victims of eviction, Mr Kirui said.
?The
first registration conducted indicated that we are around 684 families,
but the number has since risen to more than 2,000 families with many
still streaming in,? he said. 





      

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From bigavala at aol.com  Thu Dec 10 22:10:21 2009
From: bigavala at aol.com (bigavala at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:10:21 -0500
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] An Open Letter to PM Raila: JUDY MIRIGA IS
 RIGHT, $900   PER DAY IS TOO MUCH
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Message-ID: <8CC48269BD2B277-974-1039A@webmail-m074.sysops.aol.com>


Kenya should market itself and use volunteers when begging. You do not send out millionaires to beg.
I hope they are denied any money or help at all.
Kenya is still poor while South Korea develop be cause of such impunity and promotion of tribalism and nepotism
Some people do not deserve to be in the positions they are holding now and are drunk with the power of manipulations.
The prime minister is biting the bait and will pay for it and carry someone's cross.. I hope he is watching it happen and will have a good explanation during 2012 election.
Mkenya



-----Original Message-----
From: george omburo <georgeomburo at yahoo.com>
To: odhiambo at gmail.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2009 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] An Open Letter to PM Raila: JUDY MIRIGA IS RIGHT, $900 PER DAY IS TOO MUCH


Dactari Abonyo;
If you remember, I was in Kenya and when I came back Judy and others had gone to 
very law maker at the capital Hill and laid to them Kenya's issue. Coalition 
overnment didn't just crop up from no where. It was possible majorly in part 
ecause of the contributions from unknown, unrecognized heroes like Judy. 
nd while many have since then frizzled to their peacely daily routines, Judy's 
ire continues to burn for Kenyans. Thank you Judy for keeping the fire going 
or our country. 
I find it foolish to support a $900/d allowance while holding a begging bag.
Omburo

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Paul Nyandoto <paul.nyandoto at phsotey.fi> wrote:
> From: Paul Nyandoto <paul.nyandoto at phsotey.fi>
 Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] An Open Letter to PM Raila: JUDY MIRIGA IS RIGHT, $900  
ER DAY IS TOO MUCH
 To: odhiambo at gmail.com, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 1:19 PM
 Odhiambo
 washington,
  
 I think you are missing the whole picture about Judy
 or any Kenyan living abroad. Most of Kenyans living
 abroad are directly connected with Kenya and there is noway
 you can seperate them with their homeland. A lot of us have
 invested in that country even more than some of the so
 called those who live in it permanetely. A kenyan has all
 the rights to free speeches and can write his mind
 about what is affecting Kenya today. We did contribute alot
 to the prime minister during his presidential candidate. Do
 you even know that even people like  prof Ghai the main
 achitecture of Bomas draft lives outside Kenya but that does
 not make him a lesser Kenyan than you  with your
 nairobi address. I personaly support Judy for her courage
 and if kenya had more Judy type of individuals may be
 kenyans would not be suffering as they do today. So give
 Judy all the support you  have. You as a person
 why  don" t you give a solution. Why only
 criticising things?. You should try in your life to be a
 part of a solution not another problem in Kenya. Remember
 the wise man"s say that the: FREEDOM OF A COUNTRY IS
 HIS PEOPLE. If the society is not free to have food, jobs,
 health services, pure water etc. then there is no freedom no
 matter what you hear or write on papers about democracy or
 freedom. The letter Judy wrote to Raila is correct, good and
 you can only say the opposite if you did not read it or may
 be  did not understood it. Thanks.
  
 Paul Nyandoto
 
 >>> barack abonyo 12/10/09 1:53 AM
 >>>
 
 
 Ladies and Gentlemen
 Let me tell you guys something about lady Judy because I
 have met her in person during a politically charged
 atmosphere. I cannot forget that day. It was very cold in
 Washington DC. I had driven all the way from Florida to
 protest 2007 stolen election at the Kenyan Embassy and
 United States State Department. There were many people. Some
 I knew some I did not.  Me and my Associates were not
 aware that there were other organizers but as you know word
 travels through the internet. Well we were disorganized and
 organized because one group did not know the other
 group. Judy belonged to one group and I belonged to the
 other. My group chose Alphonse Omondi of Philadelphia to be
 incharge the other group chose Judy.
  
 Judy is almost the age of my mother but in her I saw a
 heart of a young warrior. She and Omondi were our
 incharges. Judy pushed the embassy door like a young lady
 but Ogego refused to talk to us although later on me and
 Omondi sneaked in only to be ejected by the security. Later
 that day with Judy and Omondi as our incharge we went to the
 State department and had an audience with the state
 reperesentative. We had along chain of demonstrators. Okoa
 spoke on our behalf. Through Judy and Omondi we handed over
 our two written petitions. Our issue was that Kibaki stole
 the election and the United States should not recognize him
 as president. Secondly we took issue with why the United
 States had already endorsed Kibaki as president
 and lastly we requested United States to be involved in
 solving the Kenyan problem. The next day Jandaya Frazer was
 dispatched to Kenya.
  
 As you can see, Judy faught for the rights of Kenya and she
 achieved something. Fairness. He fought for Raila to be who
 he is now. Without United States, Raila could be rotting in
 jail somewhere opr in exile. Judy therefore has every right
 to tell Raila that he is wrong when he is. Indeed Raila was
 wrong in this case. Where on earth do you go to beg for
 money so that you can throw it to the sea and still claim
 sovereignity.  If you want to claim to be sovereign
 then dont go begging. Besides, $900 allowance per day, where
 on earth do people get that except in Kenya. Kenyans should
 be outraged instead of looking at the type of english Judy
 wrote. Why are Kenyans so much dissolutioned. $900 per day
 for 10 days for 60 people who in my view are going just to
 visit Germany. If you look closely you may find out many of
 them are relatives of the people in the government. How is
 this diffrerent form Moi's Government when Nyiva Mwendwa
 went with her hair dresser for an overseas trip. This is
 unjustifiable, travesity, impunity and at worse insulting
 the people of Kenya intelligence. This
 should be one very good reason why Kenyans should
 take to the streets. How come you cannot settle 2000
 poor people but you can give an rich  individual
 over $900 per day with hotel expences paid for 10 days. I
 have travelled enough to know that a Kenyan cannot dare pay
 $300 for breakfast, $300 lunch and  $300 for dinner
 unless it is a life and death situtaion, even $50 per meal
 for a Kenyan is too much. Even US senators the richest
 country in the world do not get that. 
  
 It is amazing Raila was supporting this and when Judy who
 worked very hard for Raila questioned this, some headless
 chickens following their stomach pounced on her because she
 wrote poor english. Sirs, correct the english but also dare
 tell your king that he is naked. That is what Judy did. Judy
 has worked so hard for this course. She has every right to
 straighten it.
 Yours Sincerely
 Dr. Barack Otieno Abonyo
  
  
 
 
 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:50:40 -0800
 From: yasabu_yasabu at yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: An Open Letter to PM Raila
 To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
 
 
 
 #yiv482552909 .ExternalClass DIV
 {}
 
 
 
 Odhi
  
 thumbs high for sis judy, the points she raised
 regards the P.M has merits and should be supported by all
 pple who love to see kenya prosper, during 2007, we did
 all we can and supported P.M believing that he will bring
 the desired change kenyans are yearning for, but
 unfortunately he has not measured upto our expectation. We
 have nothing personal regards the P.M, and we went all way
 using our vote and finance so support his leadership, and
 its unfortunate that its during this process that some lost
 their life. Just to enlighten , councils of imams were
 involved in accident from tour of LAMU, where they went to
 campaign for Raila during Dec 2007, and lost one of our
 imams, and chairman was in coma for more than two months,
 despite of all this sacrifice, Hon Raila locked them out
 during his visit to Msa last weekend, and even never
 bothered to visit Chairman Idris nor call him. 
 
 
 
 
 
 From:
 Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
 To:
 youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wed,
 December 9, 2009 9:38:31 AM
 Subject: Re:
 [YP_Ke] Re: An Open Letter to PM Raila
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:38 AM,
 Hargwings Omondi <homondi at gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 Oh I thought
 I was the only one getting tired of this! I find it amusing
 for a Kenyan NOT in Kenya to complain and but give no
 solutions. Kwani Judy is running an NGO that is funded to
 complain?
 
 
 
 Are the issues raised by Judy genuine or not? I think
 that's the way we should be looking at them. Put aside
 the person for a moment. Look at the issues.
 
 
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From hillary at salafrica.com  Fri Dec 11 05:10:17 2009
From: hillary at salafrica.com (Hillary Mkabana)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:10:17 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] Just got the Tiger Woods Xmas Card
Message-ID: <8492F2242D21A2419B9C0AA8DA9B8E7B266D1E@mailserver.salafrica.com>

 

Hi folks, no offence

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From hillary at salafrica.com  Fri Dec 11 05:23:09 2009
From: hillary at salafrica.com (Hillary Mkabana)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:23:09 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] Arranged Marriages...the world has changed!!
Message-ID: <8492F2242D21A2419B9C0AA8DA9B8E7B2C5740@mailserver.salafrica.com>

 

 

Great one for the  Hi-tech amongst us....!!!

 

 


 


Subject: Arranged Marriages...the world has changed!!

Hi-tech

 

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From hillary at salafrica.com  Fri Dec 11 05:28:25 2009
From: hillary at salafrica.com (Hillary Mkabana)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:28:25 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] To the  week commencing
Message-ID: <8492F2242D21A2419B9C0AA8DA9B8E7B266D20@mailserver.salafrica.com>

 

 

 

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From hillary at salafrica.com  Fri Dec 11 05:36:30 2009
From: hillary at salafrica.com (Hillary Mkabana)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:36:30 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] inspiration
Message-ID: <8492F2242D21A2419B9C0AA8DA9B8E7B266D22@mailserver.salafrica.com>

The one who is loving is the one who experiences freedom.
 
 Expression:
 
 The root of suffering is attachment, because attachment makes one
 bound. To be truly free means to learn to love and appreciate
 while remaining independent. Others' state of mind or task does
 not negatively influence one's own responses to the outside
 environment. There is the ability to be free and express one's own
 specialities without being coloured.
 
 Experience:
 
 If I cannot keep myself free from attachment I am constantly
 experiencing suffering. Because I am attached, I am dependent on
 someone or something I have created a space for in my mind. When
 that person or object is criticized, neglected or not with me, I
 feel pain in my mind and I experience a sense of loss. Then I am
 not able to be loving.
 



 



From hillary at salafrica.com  Fri Dec 11 05:30:59 2009
From: hillary at salafrica.com (Hillary Mkabana)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:30:59 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] Origami
Message-ID: <8492F2242D21A2419B9C0AA8DA9B8E7B266D21@mailserver.salafrica.com>

 

 

 

 

This is Japanese art, but name of master "origamist" is Korean...pretty
sure Won Park is Korean name.    

 

Origami is the traditional Japanese art of paper folding.    The goal of
this art is to create a representation of an object using geometric
folds and crease patterns preferably without the use of gluing or
cutting the paper, and using only one piece of paper.

Won Park  is the master of Origami.  He is also called the "money
folder", a practitioner of origami whose canvas is the United States One
Dollar Bill. 

Bending, twisting, and folding, he creates life-like shapes in stunning
detail. 

One dollar   



 

 

Dollar      Butterfly 

 



One Dollar        Camera 



 

Two Dollars             Battle Tank 



 

 

Two Dollars        Chinese Dragon 

 



 

One Dollar Crab 

 

 

One Dollar        Dolphin 

 

 

Two Dollars   Jacket 

 

 

Two Dollars       Spider 

 

 One Dollar - Scorpion

 



 

 

 

One Dollar       Bat 

 

One Dollar     Toilet Bowl 

   

One Dollar      Penguin 

 

 

One Dollar      Shark 

 

 

One Dollar     Jet 

 

 

One Dollar         Hammer Head Shark 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From hillary at salafrica.com  Fri Dec 11 05:41:01 2009
From: hillary at salafrica.com (Hillary Mkabana)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:41:01 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [Friends] New Technique used by Robbers
Message-ID: <8492F2242D21A2419B9C0AA8DA9B8E7B266D24@mailserver.salafrica.com>

Folks,

If you are driving at night and have some eggs thrown at your car's
wind-shield, do not operate your wiper or spray any water! Be reminded
that eggs mixes with water and becomes milky which may block your vision
up to 95% and you will forced to stop on the road side allowing the
robbers an opportunity to rob you.
God forbid!! No matter what you do, DONT STOP!!! Try to see through the
side window of the car and drive on to a safe distance before pulling
off the road to wash the windshield. This is a new technique used by
robbers.
Share this with friends and family!
 


Hillary


      




From hillary at salafrica.com  Fri Dec 11 05:51:32 2009
From: hillary at salafrica.com (Hillary Mkabana)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:51:32 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] Amazing Excel Sheets. PLS OPEN ,
Message-ID: <8492F2242D21A2419B9C0AA8DA9B8E7B266D27@mailserver.salafrica.com>

 

 

Please do not save the age character calculation just exit to keep it
live

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From hillary at salafrica.com  Fri Dec 11 06:26:16 2009
From: hillary at salafrica.com (Hillary Mkabana)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:26:16 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] There..... I fixed it honey!
Message-ID: <8492F2242D21A2419B9C0AA8DA9B8E7B266D29@mailserver.salafrica.com>

Am back with to make you happy

 

Hills

 




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From hillary at salafrica.com  Fri Dec 11 06:28:02 2009
From: hillary at salafrica.com (Hillary Mkabana)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:28:02 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] New Aspirin - VERY IMPORTANT]
Message-ID: <8492F2242D21A2419B9C0AA8DA9B8E7B266D2A@mailserver.salafrica.com>

 

 


 
> > IMPORTANT READ.....
> >
> > Something that we can do to help ourselves. Nice to know.
> > Bayer is making crystal aspirin to dissolve under the tongue. They
work
> much faster than the tablets.
> >
> >
> > Why keep aspirin by your bedside?
> > About Heart Attacks
> >
> > There are other symptoms of an heart attack besides the pain on the
left
> arm.
> > One must also be aware of an intense pain on the chin, as well as
nausea
> and lots of sweating, however these symptoms may also occur less
frequently.
> > Note: There may be NO pain in the chest during a heart attack. The
> majority of people (about 60%) who had a heart attack during their
sleep,
> did not wake up. However, if it occurs, the chest pain may wake you up
from
> your deep sleep.
> >
> > If that happens, immediately dissolve two aspirins in your mouth and
> swallow them with a bit of water.
> > Afterwards:
> > - call 911
> > - say "heart attack!"
> > - say that you have taken 2 aspirins..
> > - take a seat on a chair or sofa near the front door, and wait for
their
> arrival and...
> > ~ do NOT lie down ~
> >
> > A Cardiologist has stated that, if each person, after receiving this
> e-mail, sends it to 10 people, probably one life can be saved!
> >
> >
> >
> > Do forward this message; it may save lives!
> >
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From hillary at salafrica.com  Fri Dec 11 06:31:47 2009
From: hillary at salafrica.com (Hillary Mkabana)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:31:47 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] NAILS & HEALTH
Message-ID: <8492F2242D21A2419B9C0AA8DA9B8E7B266D2B@mailserver.salafrica.com>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Nails and Health: Read the Signs

Did you know your nails can reveal clues to your overall health? A touch
of white here, a rosy tinge there, or some rippling or bumps may be a
sign of disease in the body. Problems in the liver, lungs, and heart can
show up in your nails. Keep reading to learn what secrets your nails
might reveal.

 

 

Pale Nails 

http://www..webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-n
ails-say-about-your-health
<http://www..webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-
nails-say-about-your-health> 

Very pale nails are sometimes linked to aging. But they can also be a
sign of serious illness, such as: 

*         Anemia 

*         Congestive heart failure 

*         Diabetes 

*         Liver disease 

*         Malnutrition 

White Nails 

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-na
ils-say-about-your-health
<http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-n
ails-say-about-your-health> 
If the nails are mostly white with darker rims, this can indicate liver
problems, such as hepatitis. In this image, you can see the fingers are
also jaundiced, another sign of liver trouble. 

Yellow Nails 

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-na
ils-say-about-your-health
<http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-n
ails-say-about-your-health> 

One of the most common causes of yellow nails is a fungal infection. As
the infection worsens, the nail bed may retract, and nails may thicken
and crumble. In rare cases, yellow nails can indicate a more serious
condition such as severe thyroid disease or psoriasis 

Bluish Nails 

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-na
ils-say-about-your-health
<http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-n
ails-say-about-your-health> 

Nails with a bluish tint can mean the body isn't getting enough oxygen.
This could indicate an infection in the lungs, such as pneumonia. 

Rippled Nails 

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-na
ils-say-about-your-health
<http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-n
ails-say-about-your-health> 

If the nail surface is rippled or pitted, this may be an early sign of
psoriasis or inflammatory arthritis. Psoriasis is a skin condition that
starts in the nails 10% of the time. 

Cracked or Split Nails 

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-na
ils-say-about-your-health
<http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-n
ails-say-about-your-health> 

Dry, brittle nails that frequently crack or split have been linked to
thyroid disease. Cracking or splitting combined with a yellowish hue is
more likely due to a fungal infection 

Puffy Nail Fold 

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-na
ils-say-about-your-health
<http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-n
ails-say-about-your-health> 

If the skin around the nail appears red and puffy, this is known as
inflammation of the nail fold. It may be the result of lupus or another
connective tissue disorder. 

Dark Lines Beneath the Nail 

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-na
ils-say-about-your-health
<http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-n
ails-say-about-your-health> 

Dark lines beneath the nail should be investigated as soon as possible.
They are sometimes caused by melanoma, the most dangerous type of skin
cancer. 

Gnawed Nails 

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-na
ils-say-about-your-health
<http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-n
ails-say-about-your-health> 

Biting your nails may be nothing more than an old habit, but in some
cases it's a sign of persistent anxiety that could benefit from
treatment. Nail biting or picking has also been linked to
obsessive-compulsive disorder. If you can't stop, it's worth discussing
with your doctor. 

Nails Are Only Part of the Puzzle 

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-na
ils-say-about-your-health
<http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/slideshow-what-your-n
ails-say-about-your-health> 

Though nail changes accompany many conditions, these changes are rarely
the first sign. And many nail abnormalities are harmless -- not everyone
with white nails has hepatitis. If you're concerned about the appearance
of your nails, see a dermatologist 

More Reading on Nail Health

 

 

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From hillary at salafrica.com  Fri Dec 11 07:08:29 2009
From: hillary at salafrica.com (Hillary Mkabana)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:08:29 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] boyfriends
Message-ID: <8492F2242D21A2419B9C0AA8DA9B8E7B266D2D@mailserver.salafrica.com>

 

 

 

 

This is something to think about:  4 BOYFRIENDS 
    
    
Once upon a time there was this girl who had four boyfriends. 
    
    
She loved the 4th boyfriend the most and adored him with rich robes and
treated him to the finest of    delicacies. She gave him nothing but the
best. 
    
    
She also loved the 3rd boyfriend very much and was always showing him
off to neighboring kingdoms. However, she feared that one day he would
leave her for another. 
    
    
She also loved her 2nd boyfriend. He was her confidant and was always
kind, considerate and patient with her. Whenever this girl faced a
problem, she could confide in him, and he would help her get through the
difficult  times. 
    
    
The girl?s 1st boyfriend was a very loyal partner and had made great
contributions in maintaining her wealth and kingdom. However, she did
not love the first boyfriend. Although he loved her deeply, she hardly
took notice of him! 
    
    
One day, the girl fell ill and she knew her time was short. She thought
of her luxurious life and wondered,    I now have four boyfriends with
me, but when I die, I'll be all alone." 
    
    
Thus, she asked the 4th boyfriend, "I loved you the most, endowed you
with the finest clothing and showered great care over you. Now that I'm
dying, will you follow me and keep me company?" 
    
    
"No way!", replied the 4th boyfriend, and he walked away without another
word. 
    
    
His answer cut like a sharp knife right into her heart. 
    
    
The sad girl then asked the 3rd boyfriend, "I loved you all my life. Now
that I'm dying, will you follow me and keep me company?" 
    
    
"No!", replied the 3rd boyfriend. "Life is too good! When you die, I'm
going to marry someone else!" 
    
    
Her heart sank and turned cold. 
    
    
She then asked the 2nd boyfriend, "I have always 
turned to you for help and you've always been there for me. 
    
    
When I die, will you follow me and keep me company?" 
    
    
"I'm sorry, I can't help you out this time!", replied the 2nd boyfriend.
"At the very most, I can only walk with you to your grave." 
    
      
    
His answer struck her like a bolt of lightning, and the girl was
devastated. 
    
    
Then a voice called out: "I'll go with you. I'll follow you no matter
where you go." 
    
    
The girl looked up, and there was his first boyfriend. He was very
skinny as he suffered from malnutrition and neglect. 
    
    
    
Greatly grieved, the girl said, "I should have taken much better care of
you when I had the chance!" 
    
    
In truth, you have 4 boyfriends in your lives: 
    
    
Your 4th boyfriend is your body. No matter how much time and effort you
lavish in making it look good, it will leave you when you die. 
    
    
Your 3rd boyfriend is your possessions, status and wealth.When you die,
it will all go to others. 
    
    
Your 2nd boyfriend is your family and friends. No matter how much they
have been there for you, the furthest they can stay by you is up to the
grave. 
    
    
And your 1st boyfriend is your Soul. Often neglected in pursuit of
wealth, power and pleasures of the world. 
    
    
However, your Soul is the only thing that will follow you where ever you
go.Cultivate, strengthen and cherish it now, for it is the only part of
you that will follow you to the throne of God and continue with you
throughout Eternity. 
    
    
Thought for the day:Remember, when the world pushes you to your knees,
you're in the perfect position to pray. 
    
    
    
    
NB! Being happy doesn't mean everything's perfect.  It means you've
decided to see beyond the imperfections. 
  

 



From catherinegachahi at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 11:43:12 2009
From: catherinegachahi at yahoo.com (Catherine Gachahi)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:43:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Urgent Vacancies!
Message-ID: <847081.1005.qm@web54208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Sambaza...applications to be sent to recruit at adeptsystems.co.ke
?


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From jairuschurch at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 17:53:32 2009
From: jairuschurch at yahoo.com (Jagem K'Onyiego)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:53:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Gado's Friday Cartoon in bad taste
Message-ID: <57498.59626.qm@web62106.mail.re1.yahoo.com>


Abu'
?
Are you already seeing?sense into what I was saying? No sooner?had I presented my views here in the forum, than, the "Hecklers" are already rearing for "Battle". Now these Hecklers if given a chance will end up wreaking havoc on that draft, even before?it reaches a discussion stage.
?
To avoid this we must let the Constitution to only?address the Individual Right of the Citizen. But once you allow "Groups," Organizations," "Communities" etc, or any other entities that answer in the form of "Blocks", then you lay yourself vulnerable. It will be like opening a can of worms that you can not close back.
?
Abu, by insisting that Kadhi Courts?be entrenched in the Constitution, inadvertently open up the field for adherents of unlawful religious sects like Mungiki, to start demanding that? their courts also be included in the Constitution. Now THAT IS THE TIME YOU WILL HAVE INVITED TROUBLE IN QUADRUPLE.
?
The solution therefore, is to eliminate all these groupings; be they religious or just communities. The Constitution, therefore, must be focused to address?the protection of "Rights and Freedom" of an Individual Citizen. It is this way that every Kenyan shall be deemed EQUAL in front of the Law. Weather they be Poor or?Tycoon, Disabled or Overabled, Female or Male, Child or Mzee,?Black, Orange, Blue, Albino or without Skin Pigment(White). Living in Kwa Njenga or in KILE, Nyali or Wayani, A Villager or Born Town, will not matter as long as they will be Kenyan Citizens. Be it that they are by birth or Naturalization, they will be deemed to be equal in front of the Law.
?
Abu if you are a Lawyer, take this suggestion to the Fronters of Kadhi Courts and tell them that it is one Idea and Solution you can take to the BANK, for future peace in that Nation. Anything short of the Protection of Individual Citizen's? Rights and Freedom, will only be a recipe?for future Chaos.
?
Have a thoughtful day
?
K'Onyiego?
?
--- On Fri, 12/11/09, abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: abu Ayman <abuayman88 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Gado's Friday Cartoon in bad taste
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:21 AM








Hi

I think Gado correctly depicted the true situation regarding what some Christian leaders are formeting with regards to the Kadhis courts. The comments being made by the Chucrh leaders are aimed at as you said setting the stage for inter religious animosity. Kadhis courts have been in existence for even before independence and at no time did they elicit the negative reactions which are being parroted by some of the church leaders.
For yr information, during the 2005 referendum leaflets were being circulated by some of the church leaders which indicated that religious conflicts will erupt if the Kadhis courts are entrenched. This is the same message which some of the church leaders are unfortunately peddling around.
Gado's cartoon rightly depicted the mood by the church leaders.

Abu Ayman




From: Will Keku <willkeku at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 1:07:17 PM
Subject: [YP_Ke] Gado's Friday Cartoon in bad taste







?
I wonder what the young professionals think of Daily Nation's cartoon today? It seems to me?from the cartoon strip,?christians are machete wielding, lynchers, murderers and basically terrible people led by crazy leaders?. Can anyone translate this cartoon differently. What is Gado attempting to depict?
Are we setting a stage for inter-relligion animosity? We are not even through with tribal hatred!
My opinion: Bad taste from a cartoonist who does not pose to think before he puts pen to paper.
?
Lets join hands and pray for this fellow who believes he a hero bringing out?such ideas which he thinks is art.
?
Will

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From jairuschurch at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 16:48:28 2009
From: jairuschurch at yahoo.com (Jagem K'Onyiego)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:48:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] The Draft In Luhya is attached
In-Reply-To: <306603.26121.qm@web55208.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <117980.24407.qm@web62106.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Muno Muno Ommwami!
Wachama, ngojeko niwambieko; Hapa naona Mkhwas ame "dranslate" hii draft konstitution vizuri tu sana 
?
Sasa usiwe na excuse ati haukuelewa. Soma kamili ili upate kuelewa. Kisha baadaye nawewe pia, uchangie, maana hii Katiba ni yako. Vile vile, naona Mkhwas ameshaa aanza kuratibisha "Ugatuzi" This is the only way many communities are going to understand and to perticipate in a "Government of? Inclusion"?of tomorrow, not this one of today which only serves special interests.
?
Thank you Omwami Wenani
?
K'Onyiego

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Tony M. Wenani <wensmisiko at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Tony M. Wenani <wensmisiko at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] The Draft In Luhya is attached
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 8:51 AM





Orio Muno!
Good work it is

?Tony Misiko Wenani
Mobile Tel:+254 722690395
+254 738943006






From: amenya gibson <amenya.gibson at gmail.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:04:24 PM
Subject: [YP_Ke] The Draft In Luhya is attached

Dear All
Find? Kitonga Draft in Kiluhya
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From: jairuschurch at yahoo.com (Jagem K'Onyiego)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:51:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND
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Daktari,
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Thank God that your eyes caught my two cents contribution. The actions of many Politicians in Kenya, Baffles and at times one can be blinded by fury, asking ones self why they keep doing these bad crazy self centered maneuvers, yet you will never find the answer. Their desperation to gain popularity or a sink their hands in taxpayers kitty?just baffles, to say the least?
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Anyways,lets go?back to the now popular "pass-time political event" called Preservation of Mau and the Evacuees. When I look deeply into the mess, and misery that has been visited on the small Mwanainchi, from Mau forest,?I am convinced that?there could have been a better way to do it. Now,?suppose just for for a moment that, these Leaders sat down and spent hours in discussions?to get solutions, do you think they could have failed?
Instead what did they do? WRANGLE! WRANGLE and WRANGLE even up to today. What I am smelling is an IDP situation which will be addressed with empty Political rhetoric come 2012. At that time there will be "Scores" and "Mis-scores. Anyway,Lets wait and see.if it does not turn out to this."
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Raila after touring the affected area and after realizing that the forest encroachment was causing a lot of environmental damage, he resolved that those people in the Forest must get out. This was a noble Idea. All that was needed was to have a serious discussion amongst the Leaders concerned. There is no way serious sensible minds can engage in such a situation and fail to come up with a solution.
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The above is what wanainchi would expect from their Leaders, and?for some of us Kenyans who have witnessed some of these Forest Destruction, in?various parts of the Republic, we expected nothing short of that . But behold, what followed when Raila made this Statement suggesting that the People move out of the Forest, is what turned this whole issue to be catastrophic. All I heard from some leaders was that OUR PEOPLE WILL NOT MOVE. YOU CAN NOT MOVE THEM WITHOUT TALKING TO US, And so on. 
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>From then, the whole issue was turned Political. Even the MPS whose Constituencies are hundreds of miles from MAU Forest, found it fit to claim Mau. I was surprised that an MP for Kamukunji in Nairobi also became an activist against Raila's Proposal. This MP was also claiming a stake in Mau. I can only term this as "Wonderful" 
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While this Heckling by many of these MPS was going on, none of them was finding it fit to look into the future and see the sense in preserving the Forest, as well as finding an alternative land where possibly, the evacuees would move to. All they saw was to gain some Political mileage by barraging the name of the Prime Minister. To say the list they had taken a non approachable stand that even the prime Minister may have found it hard to dialog with them.
When this matter was tabled in Parliament one?Honorable Isaac Ruto went on a heckling mission making the PM, look like some novice who did not know what he was doing. It forced the prime Minister to request the chair to ask Ruto to be positive on this, and not to incite people. All along none of that group that opposed Raila on Mau evacuation, were willing to come down to a round table discussion. 
One week, two weeks, three weeks, a Month, two months and finally three months went by. None of them was willing to commit to finding a solution or an alternative place?to resettle?the Evacuees.?They made sure that they heckled?so loud and gained huge ?Political Mailage?by pointing?all fingers?to how bad Raila was. Raila was supposed to compensate these evacuees, even before they moved out, After which, he was to?find them alternative Land........interesting!
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We may wonna ask this "since when did Raila or anybody from his family Grabb Tracks of Land that was meant to be returned to Wanainchi from the Colonials?" The families who did this, know themselves. For this, it would have been important for these Anti Raila MPS to bring such issues to the House so that a solution is found as to where to move those people. There are thousands of Tracks of Land that?Mbeberu sat on originally, but after?he was kicked out Kenyans, these parcels were grabbed by some families, in such places like Molo, Rongai,?Elburgon, Lumbwa (Kipkelion), Kalimoni, Lukenya etc. 
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These are issues that needs to be made open ( the Never Discussed Land issues in Kenya). But Making two wrongs by grabbing more forest land, then burning it and turning the place barren, as has been done in Mau can only lead to Disaster in Kenya. Honestly and truly if those anti Raila MPs are concerned with the welfare of those?Evacuees from Mau?then they could have been having None stop meetings, to find a solution and an alternative place for them.? On the contrary what I see, are people whose vision is "Clouded" by gaining Political Mileage, that they would rather create this catastrophe then, later pretend that they are siding with the people. Since?many of the uneducated Villages have little knowledge to analyze the situation, they will support that person who says I am with you. They forget that "I am?with you, never looks for permanent solutions" They tent to capitalize on the hapless people's predicaments.
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These kind of Tactics were "expertized"?by Moi during his rule. It looks like Moi had very good Students when he formed YK 92 . And it looks like they learned well from him, for they are now putting what they learned into practice. Daktari, do not be hoodwinked. Okot P Bitek said "Birds of the Same "FATHER" flock to Gather." Can you see them Gathering?
The good news is that out of these birds, one seems to have different feathers. All you need to do is to find the one with the different "Manyoya", the Kenyan Manyoya, and not the Father's Manyoya.
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As for the PM being extravagant, authorizing "Thrift Spending", I think we can come out to write some Civilized letters to him to stop or to rethink what he is doing. For when he does this, then he is telling us that he is giving in to the Corruption that he has time and again said he will fight. He is giving authority to such "Shady deals" like the Volkswagen, Grand Regency, Typing or is it Computer Error, Fictitious Losses at KQ, where there is supposed to be no Loss at all. 
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So in a Civilized manner we can send the PM letters, which, will remind him of what his obligations are and what he promised Kenyans, versus?what he is doing in the Contrary to those promises. He must uphold the law never to use his Authority to rob the Nation out of the Taxpayers money. We expect him to maintain that kind of Sanity, till he leaves office. But on the same token I do not agree that we should loose our heads, and call him all manners of names, for when we do that, then we are loosing respect?to the Nation, as he represents the Nation.
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K'Onyiego

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, barack abonyo <luo31 at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: barack abonyo <luo31 at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND
To: "youngprofessionals" <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 12:01 PM




Konyiego
Just a?one quick pointer to to your analysis
You said "Raila politely asks people who are destroying Forest to move out to pave way for reclaiming the Forest,........... And they go into a cacophonic frenzy. OOOh! Our people must be respected. Those who evicted out our people from Forest land are WAHUNI (Barbaric in nature),?they are Tribal and dada dada daaa. For all they can see as Leaders is tribe"
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Yes no one including Ruto is saying people cannot move out of the forest. Me, Ruto and the rest are simply saying, initiate forest conservation with A PLAN.?Do not just wake up and tell poor people "move" and when they move because they fear the force?and settle next to the road then you tell them that they have to go where they came from.
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Konyiego you talked about all the good things Raila has done but you failed to address these missups. He is quick to action?with no plan?to counter crisis. Have you forgotten circumcision? 
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Look in terms of ?who is the best of the worst we have now to lead Kenya, Raila is. And if no new person shows up Raila may still get my vote. However, by just praising he does we do neither him or Kenya justice. Did you not here his comment about $900 a day allowance comment. Would it be just right for him to keep quiet if he had a different opinion. 
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Now I am not going through all your as some of them are right but some are way out there and border on blind support but I have to leave you with this verse in the bible.
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Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? 7 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must master it." 
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Barack
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:33:42 -0800
From: yasabu_yasabu at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com



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From: Lordvick Otieno <lordvickp at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 1:25:59 PM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND



I've read with keep interest the analysis that potray Raila as a?betrayor in chief and the?impression created is that?without Ruto, Raila is done. This were the same?sentiments that keep being repeated by Mutahi Ngunyi, who last week?gave Raila a verdict of heading nowhere.
Ngunyi has failed to realise that for along time,?all his predictions of Raila meeting his waterloo has come back to bounce on him and prove him is constantly proved?wrong.
Unfortunately the overpossession with?Raila phobia in Ngunyi, has?made him not realise that in all those so called betrayals,?Raila has always leaned on side of the people like the 2005 referendum, where he stepped into so many?toes.
Raila's?so called?betrayals like the Uhuru? case in 2002 election which?was a near revolution?was for the good course?and it's laughable to accuse him for betraying land grabbers and self seekers in kanu.
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It's very ironical?not to see the other side of the coin like Moi's trickery of using Raila for?jogoo to?swallow the tractor.?Tell me?how many?betrayals Ruto or Uhuru?has been involved in compared to Raila. Do not?forget Ruto's axe to grind even within his own RV?backyard with Moi, Gedion,Sirma and others like Musalia,Jirongo, Karua and the likes.
So no permanent enemies or friends but only permanent interest kwa siasa.
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Talk of mega?betrayals. Didn't Uhuru lead the kanu strong hold of RV into ODM, as kanu?Chairman. He then dumped them into ODM to seek tribal sanctuary in PNU in 2007, only to resurface to parsuade the Rift Valley folks he left in ODM?to come back and form kkk with him?
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Talk of betrayals but those like Kalonzo,?who?was offered VP positions in ODM,?but thought they were too big for VP post,?abandoned the?party to wait and put pressure?on Kivuitu to anounce the results of?a stolen election without disregard to conequences of accepting the same VP slot from PNU?kupitia katikati. So?who has not betrayed who and for what course.
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Betrayal is part of siasa and I'm even?forseeing the egocentric trio of kkk?fallout out prior to 2012, and crossing over to Raila's the Jaramogi Matiba fallout way.???




From: Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschurch at yahoo.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 10:53:13 PM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND








Young Professionals
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I see one Dr. Abonyo has presented? a great "Mis- Analysis" of Raila and who Raila needs to be with to win the Presidency. Well this is great. For a moment I thought Raila only needs to gain the confidence of the Kenyan Voter to be able to win a Presidential contest.According to Daktari, all Raila needs to? do is is to have Ruto, in his Bandwagon to win?the Presidency. But one problem is suppose the Citizens reject both Raila and Ruto, then what happens? 
Secondly he, Dr. Abonyo is?not consulting with Raila to know where Raila Stands. I mean suppose Raila decided that there is too much circus with Kenyan Politicians, and chooses not to run. What happens after that????
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Despite that I would strongly?suggest to Daktari, he may wonna read the analysis from "Breigner" in this forum, before?he decided to deride Raila, goring him to death. After that we might wonna ask you to analyze for us what happened that led to Raila and many others pulling out of KANU and?forming LDP. Ask Ruto what he did with the resolutions that were reached at the KANU meeting on election rules.
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Did he Ruto lock himself in a Room,?to cook the resolutions and change the regulations? Did he insubordinate his Party's secretary by making that announcement which locked out the Likes of Saitoti, Kalonzo Musyoka, Ntimama, Nyaga, and a number of other Kanu members from?applying to contest the seats? Why did many of those Party Members run to Raila, seeking him to clear the air, only to find out that Raila was also not aware. Neither had he been informed of the changes. 
Yet when he made a telephone Call?to the Deputy secretary, he was told that that decision was Final. Who made the decisions to be Final, while the Secretary to the Party was not aware? Daktari do you remember Raila?clearing the air as to the Confusion by reading the resolutions and the regulations to the press and the public, that he?as the secretary General was asking all those who were interested in contesting for Kanu office bearers,?as well as party nominations to disregard Assistant Secretary's directives, to proceed on to submit their application forms to Kanu Headquarters..
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Daktari do you also remember that, after this episode of insubordination, Raila later found out that someone had interfered with?the KANU Members register and his name was missing from that Register. Hmmmh! Kanu inawenyewe, remember!?
Daktari could you please explain in a short analysis, what happened to simple?KANU Party rules which every Member knew and had a copy of, but which Ruto as the Assistant Secretary decided?to change.
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Fast forward to the ODM nominations. New politics had been ushered in by this one Tinga, where he urged everyone vying for the Presidential Nomination, to sell themselves and their agenda to Kenyans including those in the Diaspora. Some Kenyans who were eager for change decided to raise money and have all those ODM?Presidential candidates? give a speech at the backyard of Buckingham Palace. Raila and Honorable Nyaga arrived there on time. But the other bunch (Majina zao nimezibana), developed cold feet and did not go to England. 
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Even after that debacle they blamed Raila for trying to outdo them. Question is what were they scared of? And how Comes Hon Joseph Nyaga was brave enough to go and present himself to the people? My take is, these leaders had nothing to offer to Kenyans other than tribe. And since out there there was?no tribal?empathy, but just Kenyans, they had to shy away and stay in Nairobi.
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Daktari if in your learned mind you believe beyond reasonable doubt, that Raila is self destructing, and that these other people you keep pitting against Raila, are the good ones, then,?you might be?behaving like the Fool who was on a Frying Pan (Furumbem in Kiluhya), but on realizing the Pan was becoming too hot, decided to Jump over into the Fire to save himself. To me Raila looks like he wants to Lead the people where there will be the rule of law, checks and balances.
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Now, if you say that there is any other top Leader currently in Kenya Parliament, whom is striving to Lead the Country with some of those Values in mind, then?I will conclude that you are at a very high level of "Utopian World". For that reason you might wonna climb down the ladder just a little bit, to the level of Mwanainchi, so that you may see the "HANIAFU" colors of these Leaders?
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Raila in Kanu, was constantly undermined, by his Assistant secretary, and other officers who were constantly reminded that "KANU INAWENYEWE". When he was Minister in charge of Roads he made a very Bold Step, to bring in Sanity by re-structuring the road network in the City center. He introduced the One Way routes, which eased the maddening congestion that was already choking Nairobi. He then embarked?on bringing into reality the Construction of a Beltway around Nairobi. BOLDLY, RAILA gave notice to the Land Grabbers to vacate Road reserves to pave way for the beltway. 
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At that time Many politicians made a lot of Noise. Some said the "Kihii" was destroying Andu aa nyumba's property. Well, do?you know what happened? Ten years down the Line those who were opposing?Tinga, saw the sense of what he was trying to do. The Construction of the Beltway is underway. The Man hours that have been wasted by congested Roads in Nairobi for the last five years alone, could have given Kenya a big leap towards Industrialization.
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As a Minister of Energy, Raila solicited for funds and got a Donna, to construct a Hydro Electric Plant, away, from the River TANA Line (Kindaruma, Kamburu, Masinga and Kiambere are all located on Tana). This he argued would boost KVA on the Grid, while at the same time the Load on River Tana especially during the Dry spells when the Water Level?is down making the Plants be inoperable. So Sondu/Miriu Plant was born. Interestingly, the government Faulted on releasing its part of the Funds and Miriu project almost died. But the Man (Amolo Tinga)?got another donor to inject more money on the project and Miriu came into being.
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Right now Raila is fighting "Fools" trying to make them see sense as to the necessity of preserving the Forest for future Generation, but all these Fools can see is Tribe. 
These Leaders, long ago, bought a? "CHEAP LEADERSHIP TOOLBOX,?full of Tools, hundreds of them. Yet each and every tool in that box,?unfortunately, is a "TRIBE" tool. Whenever they retrieve one to fix a problem, it always turns out to be Tribe. For example whenever an illiterate mediocre performing person is?relieved from holding an office, these Leaders will pull out the Tribe Tool;......Yeah! Our Tribe is being finished.
A constitution is being made;....NO, we must think of our tribe. ?Improving Road Network,...........NO, NO, NO! now he is destroying our tribes people's property!!!!!!! 
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Raila politely asks people who are destroying Forest to move out to pave way for reclaiming the Forest,........... And they go into a cacophonic frenzy. OOOh! Our people must be respected. Those who evicted out our people from Forest land are WAHUNI (Barbaric in nature),?they are Tribal and dada dada daaa. For all they can see as Leaders is tribe.
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But tell you what, ten years down the line, they and?many other people, including you Bwana Daktari, will come to? a "Too late realization", ?that, rather than fight him they would have mobilized and joined Raila in his?efforts to Conserve these Forests.
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Have a conservation Day. But Remember this, that the same Tinga you are barraging with arrow like words here, is truly for the Mwanainchi and Kenya, while those you give a lot of respect and credence here might turn out to be only after their stomachs and "grabbable" wealth. Raila with all his ills, is?500times more sane than the rest of them.
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K'Onyiego?
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--- On Tue, 12/8/09, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] BEWTEEN RAILA AND RUTO WHO REALLY WON THIS ROUND
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 6:15 AM





On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:14 AM, barack abonyo <luo31 at hotmail.com> wrote:


Waw what a crowd at Tononoka! As many have said, "Raila is fighting back". However, the real question is, "Raila is fighting who back?". I?am thrilled to answer this question. In brief, Raila is fighting himself. 
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After working very hard to consolidate a pwerhouse in the ODM,?Raila embarked on a desperate move to dismatle it.?First he disolved the pentagon then declared himself the sole party leader. Things backfired and the pentagon had to be reconstituted. Notwithstanding the damage had been done. Then came the issue of youths rotting in jail after the postelection violence to which Ngilu was almost kicked out softly. Immediately after that?the raging storm was still on, the hague and Ruto followed by Ruto and the maize scandal arrived. Ruto was not blind he saw his friend Raila?was able to rescue him but instead Raila cut off the rope?that Ruto held on to let him?slip and sink into the?rot?which both?Raila?and Ruto created together. A friend in need is a friend indeed. But at the same time, the person who can bring you down faster is your friend. To Ruto, Raila proved to be a betrayer rather than a friend. Raila became a backstabber. Raila chose to
 reallign himself with those who fought?both Ruto and Raila?at the expence of those who shed their blood and lost their lives for him. In this case one cannot blame the son of Samoei for saying enough is enough when he met his tribesmen walking their donkeys toward the roadside where their half naked buttocks was being eaten by the mau cold.
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Just why Raila concentrated on this may only be known to himslef. "Was?he?fighting the right war or right enemy". In my view, these fights were completely unecessary for Raila. He should have not initiated it. He needed Ruto as much as Ruto needed him. Ruto tried to hang in there but the assault was too much. Respect was already lost and Raila was not consulting Ruto on anything including things in Ruto's Rift Valley tuff.?However Raila still?needed Ruto for 2012 and by Raila constantly fighting Ruto, he was simply shooting himself in the foot. 
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The reason for this war has not been understood even by Raila closest associates. Many would prefer to keep Ruto in ODM because it makes it easy to fight the real opposition. Just why Raila did this baffles many. Was Ruto a threat to the possibility of?the son of?Jaramogi?being chosen the ODM presidential candidate? I doubt it because in ODM Ruto is no match for Raila. Was Ruto threatening to dislodge Raila's silent dog, Musalia Mudavadi? May be. Was he afraid? Ruto could testify and mention?him at the hague hence Raila wanted to dissociate himself from Ruto early? Possibly. All in all my best gues is that Raila saw a threat in Ruto and chose to kick him out earlier rather than later. It suffices to say that the relationship is over. This is just a rerun between Raila and Wamalwa or Raila and Kalonzo. It is going to be impossible for Raila and Ruto to come back together or if they come together, they will still backstab each other. Like Kalonzo,
 Ruto is going to be the force that blocks Raila from presidency. He has some votes. People should not forget that.
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Now the fight began, procceded and the dust is settling a little bit. Who won and how? I still contend that Raila lost but Ruto did not?gain what Raila lost. This is why. In 2012, Raila got majority of the votes from Rift Valley. Whatever Raila does and however he twists it, he will not get the same ammount of votes from this region if he does not work it with Ruto. Infact he will get less than 30% of the votes he got last time if Kosgey and Sirma stick with him. The Rift Valley was the swing vote for Raila, if he cannot bag 70% of this vote, it will become near impossible to clinch the presidency irrespective of how many people show up at Tononoka. The winning votes are not at Tononoka, it is in the Rift Valley. The coast, western and Eastern are always didivided. Raila will not be a clear winner of?2012 elections and this is what Ruto was working on after being mistreated and he has successfully done it.
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The only lousy thing Ruto did was to join CAMPS too fast. The Kalenjins are very weary of another Kikuyu leadership and Ruto should have known that a fight with Raila does not imply a friendship with Uhuru. The Kalenjins do not want to hear the name Kenyatta anywhere close to power hence as soon as Ruto jumped ship, his best bet was to build a new ship without Uhuru at the top.?However, incase Uhuru allow Ruto to be at the top of the ticket, Raila will have a real fight in the Rift Valley, central and Eastern. 
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For?the Kenyan public these things are working in the right direction for a brand new leadership. It is time for the storm to push the takataka to the sea as Raila himself said?and a complete new leader emerge. Again I say, "It?is time for change"
Dr. Barack Otieno Abonyo?





Daktari,


Do you remember YK92? Do you recall what that group did to the country's economy? Do you know "jirongo" (the currency, not the man!)?
Now, what you are telling is is that Kenyans are gullible enough (yes, we are, perhaps) to swallow another YK92 renamed to YK2012 hook, bait and sinker?
You've done quite a good analysis there, but you missed the point. Raila is fighting not himself but for Kenyans. You've promptly forgotten that all the current flame wars (I don't want to term them political for they are not) are about the Mau and those who have vested interests in it. Please keep your eye on the ball! At the end of the day, you've ended up reading political alignements in the current squabbles. One year in politics is a very long time, and 2012 is 2 years away. Much of what you see now is gonna change shortly. Politicos are always about scheming for power. Remember also that in politics, there are no permanent friends or enemies. It's always about "me". Have you forgotten about the rotten maize? Have you forgotten about the subsidized flour that never was? The talk about the country is just the icing on the cake, which itself is quite bitter. If you asked me who I'd vote for if elections were called today, I'd say .... none, and I know
 that makes you happy, but that doesn't legitimize your skewed analysis.

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TODAY!! LYP MOMBASA 1st Organization Meeting
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Date: Tuesday, December 8th at 5:00pm
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From jairuschurch at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 23:23:18 2009
From: jairuschurch at yahoo.com (Jagem K'Onyiego)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:23:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Copenhagen Meeting Africa a show of Unity
Message-ID: <364141.76718.qm@web62108.mail.re1.yahoo.com>


Wangoko,
?
Many of these Leaders are "True Hypocrites". I say this because, before they are out of?Copenhagen, many of them will?privately be making deals with the Leaders of the Western World, on how to bring Investments to their Countries, you know the Kind of Investments that Shell have brought to the Ogoni people in Naigeria, Or the type that Oil Investers are trying to bring to Darfur. As soon as Copenhagen is over, they will be dating across to the same West Capitals, seeking for handouts to allow "West Investers" to come and pillage on their Natural Resourses. African Leaders cannot use their heads to use the Vast resources available, to construct even a "ten mile" road. An Investor from the West?or China has to be called,........... Amazing!, 
?
There are many investments, eg like those heavy ones on the Siera Leonian Diamonds (famously known as Blood Diamonds), or Gold and some Diamonds?in Libera.?Oooh! before I forget why do Jeseph Kabila sit in State house in Kinshasa? Do someone know??His country Congo is?the second Wealthies Nation on earth after USA in terms of Natural resources. Congo has minerals that even the US do not have Radium and Uranium. 
But lets not get deeper onto that. For a moment just let us dwell on the obvious. Currently the world is saturated with Cell phones. The Technology of Cell phones is so advanced that I can now talk to my?Aunt there in the Village,?which is 45 minutes walk from Nyangoma school in Kogelo
?
Now all these cell phones?contain something that is highly sensitive to sound waves, (sound waves are actually "Radio" Signals,) which makes the owner of the cell phone hear that sound. These chips are made of a mineral called?COBALT. This mineral is plenty in DRC and the Investers are there, heavily exploiting the local people who mine this Cobalt in Eastern DRC.The Locals spend Days on end in the mines, But when they bring this very heavy metal to the Investers, they are paid?with food which can last them a week or so. Those who refuse to part with their consignment, demanding real money,?are sometimes shot dead and left in the Forest to rot there. It is that bad! Congolese people on the Eastern part are some of the poorest on this Earth. Yet that region is one of the richest, if not the richest area, in terms of Minerals on the entire earth. Did I hear somebody say that God promised to take the children of Israel to the Promised Land, where there
 is everything. But at the same time he "Cursed them" (Not for them to die, but the Curse was for lack of Knowledge). If these Hebrews had the knowledge, they would have?had an Idea to mine and to build a plant for processing this cobalt without going to Copenhagen.
?
Foward this just a little bit. There are Leaders who would castigate the West, yet they will silently sent their Armies to invade Eastern DRC kill the Locals, then loot the minerals and subsequently sell it to the Investers?who are connected to?the Leaders? of those Western countries. The same Leaders would then attend AU meetings looking holier than though.
What amazes in all this,?is? that Kabila still sits in Kinshasa as though he is not aware of the existence of Eatern Congo as part of his Nation.
?
And what would you say about Oil?and Diamonds in Angola. Who benefits from all that wealth? What is the GDP of Angola. After the war, and with all that wealth, how comes many Angolans still do not have access to medicine. I know a few Angolans, who have to struggle, just like many Kenyans, through lobby groups to try to bring sanity to their Government to build clinics through out the Nation, so that those who were affected by Landmines can get treatment. And off the cuffs, can someone tell me why Kenya produces the best coffee in the world, yet its coffee Blending Companies are only found in the?England? Do Kenya not have enough Land to build a Coffe processing plant. Just wondering!
?
A step further, "Who is "Drinking from the Large Oil wells in both Cameroon and Gabon"? I have met Cameroonians and Gabonese who had to leave their countries, tired because Biya was doing nothing, only going for kickbacks. While Papa Bongo was out of reach. His death was a blessing in disguise for the people, They now hope the oil will trickle a little to them.
?
Did you know that by any standards South Africa by now, is supposed to be as advanced as any other Western Nation if not better. It produces Half of the World's Gold and a third of world's diamonds. Yet brothers down there are severaly lacking Jobs, In the recent past? in their stupidity. they have attacked foreiners, believing that this will "Create More Jobs" for them. While they are doing this, the Inkatha Freedom Party Chief, who?swiftly shifted to?ANC to get the numbers, is?busy looking for kickbacks to award a French Company?a Contract on a ?"Shady Deal" to build him a Navy ship. Someone can be fooled to think that the South African Navy do not have the Capacity to do this. However looking at the details, we wonder how?this can be possible when they build all their Military ware during the apertheid era. Those experts did not run away they are still in South Africa. But Mr BBC (Body to Body Contact man) would rather take a young Zulu girl,
 then get a kick back from a Navy Ship Deal.
?
And how about the one in the Horn of Africa, who thinks he should build one Big safe Headquaters, for the Pirates to do "BIG TIME SHIPPING" business?on the East coast of Africa. He will also probably castigate the west too, yet all the Arsenal, plus the Navigational?equipment he and his pirates uses, are manufactured?in Wetern Countries
I think it is Hypocrisy of the first order for these Leaders to pretend to?casigate the west, yet they the Leaders are the ones that bring the west to their backyard. 
?
They want to castigate the west? Somebody tell them that they have to clean their house first. In Darfur it has been the Government, In Angola, that SAVAGE (or?did I hear you call him Jonas)?was too mesmerised by Oil and diamond money. But what do we say about the General and Kaguta who has time and again invaded a forein country with their own Armies all in the name of Minerals, while Joseph is busy listening and dancing to "TECHNO MALEWA" and being happy. Will the people in those areas ever be free to enjoy this wealth?
?
Now, if all that is a bit hard to absorb and explain, can someone please make me to understand the actions of one Jacobo the "AMAZULU" man. Jacob you can sing all the "UMSHINI WAM" you want, but remember you are no longer the head?in a?Kraal. You must project the aspirations of South Africans. You will not do this by "BBC" and certainly not by leaving your capable Navy, to bring in the West, then again turning around to castigate the same west you brought into your backyard. It is Hypocrisy
?
Just tell them to shut up, finish the meeting and come back to brutalize their people. Half of the time during the meeting, they will be asleep anyway.
?
K'Onyiego???
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--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Muita Wangoko <muitawangoko at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Muita Wangoko <muitawangoko at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Copenhagen Meeting Africa a show of Unity
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 10:52 AM


Bwana Amenya thanks for keeping us posted.? It's good to hear that African countries are united towards this worthy cause and they must castigate the west for their dire actions.? They question is, do you think after all this, there will be a consesus? How many times have we talked about the same? I think we need comprehesive tactics of keeping the culprits in check.? Africa has been on the received end on far too many ways, It's the high time we realise this and ensure it's forthwith stopped.

....it's rather interesting to hear that climate change has altered the sex drive amongst some of us, how does this happen? :)

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On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 14:06, amenya gibson <amenya.gibson at gmail.com> wrote:

>From Kenya Young Greens Team in Denmark
Hi All
In spite of low temperatures in Copenhagen Africans hopes are very
high and have vowed they must bring something back home at whatever
cost

Prof Wangari Maathai was on plenary talking about Impact of Climate
Change on River Sagana and how it has caused much suffering which must
be stopped.
Many delegates from Africa were in full attendant and they appluded
most of the time when she stressed the need to ensure Climate Justice
is implemented

Mr Musikari Kombo was the man of the day as he said step by step how
Kenya stand to suffer if we don't adapt to new technologies to reverse
Climate Change,he accused West for using Africa as a punching bag and
test centers for discarded technologies which cause more harm that
benefit.
Africa resolved that West engage Africa when they want to make
technology transfers
The Danish Delegates were found on receiving end when Information was
leaked that they plan to scuttle the Kyoto Agreement ,they were forced
to apologize profusely as most African nation almost boycotted to
engage in discussions until they Danish team retract their statements

Uganda Delegate did Africa proud when they splendidly linked spread of
AIDS/HIV to increase climate Change activities she said most people in
Africa and Uganda are experiencing increased sex drive due to hot
environments hence engaging in sex thus leading to spread of AIDS/HIV
The Scientific Panel where great Scientists were deliberating
mathematical models ,very few Delegates attended which showed we have
to up our initiatives.

Finally the unity of African at Copenhagen meeting will at least make
the West make a concrete resolution ,also ensuring that no more
idleing of African delegates they do meet mostly in evening to plan
for any upcoming events so that they are not taken by a surprise
Also Dr Kaudia from Ministry of Environment is doing a good job for
debunking those difficult scientific terms so that all are in the
know.

All are looking at Next Week which is going to be a very defining
moment as a political situation must be reached

This article is brief for Kenya Young Greens Team in Copenhagen
?edited by Gibson Amenya

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Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

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From billouko at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 12 06:51:14 2009
From: billouko at yahoo.com (Martin Ouko)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:51:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] KCB ISSUE
Message-ID: <778761.5365.qm@web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Life is too short to be tryin to fix things. That's why we run to  
where it already runs smooth.

Sent from my iPod

On Dec 12, 2009, at 2:44 AM, Ibrahim karani  
<ibrahim.karani78 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Gichuki john,
> If you read my concern with KCB, am already enjoying their *522#  
> service.And I know that through this service you cannot take cash  
> from Mpesa to your account.Am talking of this bank's caliber with  
> the kind of service they offer.5 people being in a queue for 1 hour  
> when 2 tellers are serving.
> Gichuki, as young pros.I don't think it is wise to always run away  
> to places where things have already been made.Like some of us will  
> do anything to run away to other countries just because services are  
> not good in our own country.Let us try to make things better where  
> we are.And the *522# service you are talking about,ever tried  
> inquiring for your balance and waited forever?
> KCB is a good bank.They have branches virtually kila mahali.BUT THEY  
> MUST UPGRADE THEIR SOFTWARE USED AT THE COUNTERS.
>
> Ibrahim
> -- 
> 7 DAYS TO GO! LYP BONDING SESSION & NYAMA CHOMA.
>
> Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
> Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
> Venue: Olepolos Country Club
> Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members & Nyama Choma
> Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks.  
> Roughly 1K should be enough.
>
> To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or  
> send an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number.
>
> Meeting Point: Green Corner @ 10.00 am, so that we can go together.
>
> Confirmed Attendants
> Andrew M., Atunga, Chris K., Daniel N., Francis M., Judy K., Kelvin  
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> Josh, Boniface M.,
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From Albert_Kochei at wvi.org  Mon Dec 14 06:42:48 2009
From: Albert_Kochei at wvi.org (Albert Kochei)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:42:48 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Tuskys na Mashilingi
In-Reply-To: <6b048420912110743o1638c7aeu259bea7d01be19bd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OFA17F1D73.BE2A5101-ON4325768C.003E963A-4325768C.003F9437@wvi.org>

Someone help me understand

I recently went to one of the Tuskys supermarkets for some shoppings.I was 
to be given a change of 4 bob,the cashier instead gave me 4 beremendes.If 
my childhood memory is still serving me well,each beremende is worth less 
that a bob.That not withstanding,i asked him to give me five bob ,but he 
refused saying that ..."chugua beremende ama utoke,kwa sababu sisi hatuna 
coins"But i was left wandering,could it not have been better for the guy 
to give me a five coin than hizo vitu?.....What does Central Bank Acts say 
about such a  "Barter trade in our economies"

Thanks

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To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number.

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From hongo.nnam at gmail.com  Mon Dec 14 09:41:45 2009
From: hongo.nnam at gmail.com (N Hongo)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:41:45 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Tuskys na Mashilingi
In-Reply-To: <OFA17F1D73.BE2A5101-ON4325768C.003E963A-4325768C.003F9437@wvi.org>
References: <6b048420912110743o1638c7aeu259bea7d01be19bd@mail.gmail.com>
	<OFA17F1D73.BE2A5101-ON4325768C.003E963A-4325768C.003F9437@wvi.org>
Message-ID: <b7d3213c0912140641m13821a1s32a40cf6c4313ce4@mail.gmail.com>

Albert
Next time put your foot down and refuse the sweets.  Threaten to return all
you have bought and you will see results.  I once caused at Uchumi and
demanded to see the manager.  Indeed, I softly posed a question asking if
them that should I buy something and my money is less with one bob will they
sell to me? They had no choice but to look for the coins and one thing is
for sure, I dont care if the teller gets the coins from his/her pockets, but
I dont do sweets and I have to get my change as it is!
Norah

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Albert Kochei <Albert_Kochei at wvi.org>wrote:

>
>
> Someone help me understand
>
> I recently went to one of the Tuskys supermarkets for some shoppings.I was
> to be given a change of 4 bob,the cashier instead gave me 4 beremendes.If my
> childhood memory is still serving me well,each beremende is worth less that
> a bob.That not withstanding,i asked him to give me five bob ,but he refused
> saying that ..."chugua beremende ama utoke,kwa sababu sisi hatuna coins"But
> i was left wandering,could it not have been better for the guy to give me a
> five coin than hizo vitu?.....What does Central Bank Acts say about such a
>  "Barter trade in our economies"
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> 7 DAYS TO GO! LYP BONDING SESSION & NYAMA CHOMA.
>
> Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
> Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
> Venue: Olepolos Country Club
> Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members & Nyama Choma
> Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K
> should be enough.
>
> To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send an
> email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number.
>
> Meeting Point: Green Corner @ 10.00 am, so that we can go together.
>
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Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
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From: fredwagah21150 at yahoo.com (fred wagah)
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From: jkorig at yahoo.com (john kamau)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:41:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: AFRICA WILL NEVER BE BETTER
In-Reply-To: <314464.18719.qm@web35306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <723037.29450.qm@web57403.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

?Mr Kioko,
Thank you for keeping not only the Mau Debate a live, but the hope that Kenya is still not a a failures state.Some nay Sayers have propagated, and would wish that we all believe this negativity; kill our hopes and as such down right die on self pity.
Yes Kenya is not south Korea, Singapore or U.S.A, but nor are we Somalia, Congo,? and certainly not even Sudan. We are not? developing as fast as we should but we are certainly not digressing as fast as others. What am i saying?? THERE IS STILL HOPE FOR KENYA.
Our only decease is the Dr Obonyo's,? Mistaken believe that they are better than others, mainly if they can boldly display some academic initials before their first names.
Every Kenya has a take and a gift we can use to positively change our dear country.? Academic achievements are important components, but not the parameters of deciding a good leader. Age, tribe, religion, color or creed are not the components that we should use to decide who should lead Kenya. We should by now have found out that it takes much more that any one of this to be a good leaders. Qualifications of a good leaders should be demonstrated by the particular person over a period of time by the way he /she has employed most of the above and some, which then will show as wisdom.
That is who we need. not an egocentric, over spoilled, brat born with a silver spoon in his mouth, driven to school at the back of a Mercedes gassed with tax payers money, smoked his Primary? and secondary Education off, before being Airlifted to some obscure foreign commercial institution before landing back in bang.
This kind of person is completely out of touch with reality? He/she lives in a cosmetic world where all that matters lives and dines in five stars. Any thing short of that is irrelevant. Those are all the front runners for leadership in our country, we need some more window shopping Brothers. They have never managed their lives, they had servants do the thinking for them . Yes the can speak with authority aping their fathers. but they can not think like their fathers. they are not their fathers.

--- On Mon, 12/14/09, David B <chamkaa at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: David B <chamkaa at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] Re: AFRICA WILL NEVER BE BETTER
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:49 AM


Mr. Kioko
Your point is well taken, you got my point clearly. I was intentionally being pessimistic and for a reason. You will realize yours is the first response to positively identify pessimism and frustration in the piece. Others amazingly, quickly read only tribalism in it. you read them and prove me right. There is even? a picture from a newspaper I attached showing a police officer wasting his sleep, time and tax payers money to investigate who is in the camp. don't they have records? For that reason, few hours ago I put out an attempt to give a hint of what I was driving at. Here it is:

It is not about whether people leave the forest or not, it is about how
it is done.? You do not create additional problem by trying to solve
one. The government has no record of who came out the forest, how many
they are and where they came from.? They have no information as to
which is the OMENA from the lake and which came from the river.? If they did they would not be going out at night to investigate who is in the camp and who is not. 

Now
they are in dilemma who to compensate and who to chase away. So askaris
have to go out at night using stoneage method to identify the omena.?
My friends, is this how we will achieve industrialization by 2030??
Stoneage style? By causing over 3000 people to abundon their maturing
crops in the field and camp on the road? We will be forced to feed them
for the next several months un-necessarily. By chasing out students
from their exam rooms to the road? I think there was a better way to
solve the past and make the future better for all. 

MAU
AND OTHER FORESTS MUST BE? REHABILITATED. No dispute on this.?? By the
way, Ogiek have nowhere to go, their original home is the forest. Does
anyone know who among these Omenas are Ogiek? The system has no record
of who they are how many they are or how to cater for their interests,
they are Kenyans as you and me. 

Surprisingly, what I hear even
from the esteemed memberes of this forum is that Ogiek do not mater, we
care less how they are treated or how they survive or die as long as
the rest of Kenyans("other tribes"?) get rain. Is that not what we are
sayig? If not, how has the system tried to identify them and take care
of their interests if they really care about better Kenya?? 

To
me, this was an opportunity to identify them and show a different
leadership style by recognizing every Kenayan as part of the whole. Let
us not ignore the needs of the tiniest group of Kenyans.? The rights of
one individual is as important as the rights of millions. To take care
of millions, you start by taking care of one. So why kill over 3000 so
that 35million can have rain? Impossible.? 

The
more I read comments on this forum, the more I am sure we are a long
long way from being what we ought to be. Just because leadership failed
in the past is not an excuse to care less for those affected affected
today, the landless who moved into the forest to scarvenge for live.

?
-- On Mon, 12/14/09, Francis Kioko <kioko at franktax.com> wrote:

From: Francis Kioko <kioko at franktax.com>
Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] Re: AFRICA WILL NEVER BE BETTER
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:32 AM




 
 







David, 

 ? 

I reject your notion that Africa will never be better and will
never climb out of its quagmires. Be optimistic brother, hope is the engine
that drives us and without it we will be stuck forever. Yes we do have serious
problems but this is not unique every country has/had but at some point they
grow out of it. Growth is growth gradual or fast but growth. Even in quagmires
there is progress, pessimisms will not help us at this point in our nation. We
need people like you who are tired of the way things are going to join the like
minded and press forward for a meaningful change. I feel you brother but what I?m
saying is we cannot lose hope no matter what. We need to press forward and
remain focused and I think young professionals are to some extend doing exactly
that, change will eventual come? no matter how long it will take. 

Frank 

 ? 





From:
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[mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerald M.
hiuhu

Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:22 AM

To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] Re: AFRICA WILL NEVER BE BETTER 





 ? 

Friends, 

I was in Nakuru last weekend. 

Do you know that Lake Elementaita is actually not there any more??! 

Seriously I have watched it rescind bit by bit to its extinction. 

Tribalism aside, but MAU has to be vacated like yesterday. Period. 

Hongera Tinga Amollo  

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From:
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[mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Washindu, Mildren

Sent: 14 December 2009 14:10

To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] Re: AFRICA WILL NEVER BE BETTER 



 ? 

Let the people from Mau get out; we do not want to know who they
are and where they are going. We need rain; we need our forest.? I believe
they came from where they were before and we do not want to know where!. You
must KNOW that I have a Kisii friend who bought 10 acres in Mau and the
Kalenjins who were there made sure he left the place after removing his mabatis
and harvesting his maize just because they wanted to grab the land.? Let
them go. They deserve leaving that place. 

 ? 



From:
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[mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David B

Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:50 PM

To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com

Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: AFRICA WILL NEVER BE BETTER 



 ? 


 
  
  

  Friends, I have enough reason to conclude that Africa will never climb out of
  its quagmires.

  Good example of how we are unable to solve even the simplest of our problems
  is Mau. An "intelligent"
  Prime minister orders people out of the forest without an audit of who they
  are, how many they are, where they came from by verification at the Lands
  office of who has or does not have land. thye just rushed to evict them out
  of their homes during heavy rains and national school final exams.? did
  it have to happen only at this very time during exams? during rain? when
  crops are maturing for harvest?? could it have waited for just two or
  three monts for crops to be harvested, exams completed, and rains to stop?
  Now they are complaining of the camps having been infiltrated by impositers?
  Did they try to, first, know who is coming out of the forest?? Even a
  mentally retarded persons here in America would have done much better
  calculation of this situation than so called "presidents and prime
  ministers of Africa" Did I hear it was done in the name of government
  decision? "parliament" (210 leaders).? Even if they were
  bypassed, how could they allow this stupidity to happen in the name of the
  '"governemnt decision"? How we handle the simplest of our problems
  tells how high we can rise.? Is it a suprise we will only bless this
  world with poverty, diseases, civil wars and naked hungry children in the
  slums?? We could not even plan our settlements for organized better
  living. Only chaos from city to mashambani. Even land that gives us food, we
  are unable to manage for maximum and miningful cultivation.? At independence,
  the only intelligent thing we could accomplish was for the
  "president's" tribe to acquire land from other tribes as much and
  fast as possible. What really is our problem?

  ? 
  Fake Mau settlers line up for payout (is
  this really a problem to puzzle an entire system?) 
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  A policeman inspects one of the vacant tents during the night at the
  Kapkembu camp in Kuresoi District where those evicted from Mau Forest are
  camping. A survey conducted by the Nation found that people posing as evicted
  have started trooping into the camps. Photo/HEZRON NJOROGE? 
  
  By?JOY WANJA and GEORGE SAYAGIEPosted?Sunday,
  December 13?2009?at?21:11 
  
  
  Tricksters have infiltrated camps for people evicted from Mau Forest
  putting into jeopardy the government?s compensation plan. 
  
  
  Related Stories 
  
   For
       the genuinely evicted, it's a miserable life 
   Former
       squatter, 72, dies from cold  
   Mau
       children get a first sight of mzungu  
  
  
  
  The taxpayer now stands to lose millions of shillings if the imposters are
  not identified and kicked out, the Nation has learnt. 
  
  
  Scores of residents of the reserve areas near the camps have assumed the
  status of refugees by day and home owners at night, in a ploy to benefit from
  a resettlement package that may be given to the displaced persons. The
  government?s own audit has confirmed that nearly 3,000 homesteads in
  the camps are those of imposters. 
  
  
  Mau is Kenya?s largest indigenous forest and the biggest water tower
  with at least 12 rivers originating from it. They include Ewaso Ng?iro,
  Sondu, Mara and Njoro and encroachment on it has led to the drying up of
  several lakes in the Rift Valley, which solely feed off its waters. 
  
  
  Mau?s strategic importance lies in the ecosystem services it
  provides to Kenya and beyond, including the regulation of river flow, flood
  mitigation, water storage, reduced soil erosion and biodiversity. 
  
  
  Its continued destruction, therefore, threatens to cause a water crisis of
  national and regional proportions that could extend far beyond the borders of
  Kenya. 
  
  
  Daily Nation journalists visited camps at Kipkongor and Kurbanyat
  where more than 1,000 families ordered out of the forest in the first phase
  of evictions are staying. 
  
  
  The visit established that while the tents are fully occupied with men,
  women and children during the day, many of them were vacant at night. 
  
  
  Transition camps 
  
  
  Mr Ezekiel Kirui, the vice-chair of the camp, confirmed that many people
  from the nearby Kapkembu settlement scheme were masquerading as having been
  evicted and have been trickling to the transitional camps during the day. At
  night their tents are deserted. 
  
  
  Mr Kirui who moved out of Tilolwet Village in the forest, said:
  ?Some of us in these camps are land speculators and are here expecting
  to hijack the opportunity and get compensation.?  
  
  
  He said the number of those evicted in a camp called Tarta had shot up
  since the government announced a Sh35,000 compensation for the victims.  
  
  
  The cheats are also benefiting from humanitarian aid of food, blankets and
  medicine provided by charitable organisations and the government. 
  
  
  This had drastically reduced the rations for genuine victims of eviction,
  Mr Kirui said. 
  
  
  ?The first registration conducted indicated that we are around 684
  families, but the number has since risen to more than 2,000 families with
  many still streaming in,? he said.  
  
  
 


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From kioko at franktax.com  Mon Dec 14 18:10:56 2009
From: kioko at franktax.com (Francis Kioko)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:10:56 -0500
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: AFRICA WILL NEVER BE BETTER
In-Reply-To: <314464.18719.qm@web35306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <00b401ca7cd2$a34e6240$e9eb26c0$@com>
	<314464.18719.qm@web35306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004801ca7d12$b11c0f90$13542eb0$@com>

David,

 

Well said brother, tribalism is our BIGEST enemy, you would imagine the so
called Yp's will get it but far from it they seem to have the same
perception our grandparents had, I mean doing the same stuff and expecting
different results. Tribalism was the main reason behind the violence after
2007 elections, we all know this although we baptize with many words. My
question is when shall we learn if the violence was not enough lesson for
us? Why do we have young people still seeing things from tribal perspective,
how much do we gain by having a president from our tribe? I don't know who
will save us from this vice! We care so much about what tribe is the
president instead of what values he stands for, we blindly follow our
leaders even when they are wrong simply because we have accepted a
sycophantic lifestyle. We don't want to hear any negative thing being said
about a leader we fully support, in other words the leader we support is
always a saint and all others are devils. The truth be told; there is not
one single leader who will have it all, a leader must be a person who is
capable of uniting people and getting the job done through influence not
dictatorship.  Sometimes we think leaders have failed us but we don't
understand the logistics on the ground, leaders don't lead alone and this is
where it gets complicated.

 

My advice to my colleagues in this forum is LETS CHANGE OUR MINDS AND CHANGE
OUR LIVES FOREVER. Our mind set could be the reason behind our failure. I
compare Kenya 2002 and the Kenya 2009 and I see a lot of progress but I also
see so many wasted opportunities. The economy was growing at 7% just before
the election, then tribalism showed up and we dived deep to less than 2%
growth. As much as we blame leaders for the mess we need also take
responsibility and accept that we are the people who accepted their money to
mess up our country.  The leaders came up with the idea of killing people
from other tribes and  we implemented it, we could have said NO to them. We
have allowed leaders dictate our lifestyles too much, it's the high time we
told them off and this is what I long to see in this forum. We got to change
our minds to change our lives. Change from far looks impossible and in
reality, change is difficult but the truth be told it is doable. Let's be
patient with one another and use this forum to sharpen each other not
attacking each other. A very dear friend told me to sometimes doubt what I
know and open up to challenges that may show me the other side of that I
know. The problem with some of us is we don't know that we don't know. Think
again and let's pull together, we will get there sometimes. It took U.S many
years to be where they are today and I strongly believe that we can get
there faster than they did.

Frank

 

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Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 12:50 PM
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] Re: AFRICA WILL NEVER BE BETTER

 



Mr. Kioko
Your point is well taken, you got my point clearly. I was intentionally
being pessimistic and for a reason. You will realize yours is the first
response to positively identify pessimism and frustration in the piece.
Others amazingly, quickly read only tribalism in it. you read them and prove
me right. There is even  a picture from a newspaper I attached showing a
police officer wasting his sleep, time and tax payers money to investigate
who is in the camp. don't they have records? For that reason, few hours ago
I put out an attempt to give a hint of what I was driving at. Here it is:

It is not about whether people leave the forest or not, it is about how it
is done.  You do not create additional problem by trying to solve one. The
government has no record of who came out the forest, how many they are and
where they came from.  They have no information as to which is the OMENA
from the lake and which came from the river.  If they did they would not be
going out at night to investigate who is in the camp and who is not. 

Now they are in dilemma who to compensate and who to chase away. So askaris
have to go out at night using stoneage method to identify the omena.  My
friends, is this how we will achieve industrialization by 2030?  Stoneage
style? By causing over 3000 people to abundon their maturing crops in the
field and camp on the road? We will be forced to feed them for the next
several months un-necessarily. By chasing out students from their exam rooms
to the road? I think there was a better way to solve the past and make the
future better for all. 

MAU AND OTHER FORESTS MUST BE  REHABILITATED. No dispute on this.   By the
way, Ogiek have nowhere to go, their original home is the forest. Does
anyone know who among these Omenas are Ogiek? The system has no record of
who they are how many they are or how to cater for their interests, they are
Kenyans as you and me. 

Surprisingly, what I hear even from the esteemed memberes of this forum is
that Ogiek do not mater, we care less how they are treated or how they
survive or die as long as the rest of Kenyans("other tribes"?) get rain. Is
that not what we are sayig? If not, how has the system tried to identify
them and take care of their interests if they really care about better
Kenya?  

To me, this was an opportunity to identify them and show a different
leadership style by recognizing every Kenayan as part of the whole. Let us
not ignore the needs of the tiniest group of Kenyans.  The rights of one
individual is as important as the rights of millions. To take care of
millions, you start by taking care of one. So why kill over 3000 so that
35million can have rain? Impossible.  

The more I read comments on this forum, the more I am sure we are a long
long way from being what we ought to be. Just because leadership failed in
the past is not an excuse to care less for those affected affected today,
the landless who moved into the forest to scarvenge for live.

 

 


-- On Mon, 12/14/09, Francis Kioko <kioko at franktax.com> wrote:


From: Francis Kioko <kioko at franktax.com>
Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] Re: AFRICA WILL NEVER BE BETTER
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:32 AM

David,

 

I reject your notion that Africa will never be better and will never climb
out of its quagmires. Be optimistic brother, hope is the engine that drives
us and without it we will be stuck forever. Yes we do have serious problems
but this is not unique every country has/had but at some point they grow out
of it. Growth is growth gradual or fast but growth. Even in quagmires there
is progress, pessimisms will not help us at this point in our nation. We
need people like you who are tired of the way things are going to join the
like minded and press forward for a meaningful change. I feel you brother
but what I'm saying is we cannot lose hope no matter what. We need to press
forward and remain focused and I think young professionals are to some
extend doing exactly that, change will eventual come  no matter how long it
will take.

Frank

 

From: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
[mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerald M. hiuhu
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:22 AM
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] Re: AFRICA WILL NEVER BE BETTER

 

Friends,

I was in Nakuru last weekend.

Do you know that Lake Elementaita is actually not there any more??!

Seriously I have watched it rescind bit by bit to its extinction.

Tribalism aside, but MAU has to be vacated like yesterday. Period.

Hongera Tinga Amollo 

 

  _____  

From: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
[mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Washindu,
Mildren
Sent: 14 December 2009 14:10
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] Re: AFRICA WILL NEVER BE BETTER

 

Let the people from Mau get out; we do not want to know who they are and
where they are going. We need rain; we need our forest.  I believe they came
from where they were before and we do not want to know where!. You must KNOW
that I have a Kisii friend who bought 10 acres in Mau and the Kalenjins who
were there made sure he left the place after removing his mabatis and
harvesting his maize just because they wanted to grab the land.  Let them
go. They deserve leaving that place.

 

From: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
[mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David B
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:50 PM
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: AFRICA WILL NEVER BE BETTER

 



Friends, I have enough reason to conclude that Africa will never climb out
of its quagmires.
Good example of how we are unable to solve even the simplest of our problems
is Mau. An "intelligent" Prime minister orders people out of the forest
without an audit of who they are, how many they are, where they came from by
verification at the Lands office of who has or does not have land. thye just
rushed to evict them out of their homes during heavy rains and national
school final exams.  did it have to happen only at this very time during
exams? during rain? when crops are maturing for harvest?  could it have
waited for just two or three monts for crops to be harvested, exams
completed, and rains to stop? Now they are complaining of the camps having
been infiltrated by impositers? Did they try to, first, know who is coming
out of the forest?  Even a mentally retarded persons here in America would
have done much better calculation of this situation than so called
"presidents and prime ministers of Africa" Did I hear it was done in the
name of government decision? "parliament" (210 leaders).  Even if they were
bypassed, how could they allow this stupidity to happen in the name of the
'"governemnt decision"? How we handle the simplest of our problems tells how
high we can rise.  Is it a suprise we will only bless this world with
poverty, diseases, civil wars and naked hungry children in the slums?  We
could not even plan our settlements for organized better living. Only chaos
from city to mashambani. Even land that gives us food, we are unable to
manage for maximum and miningful cultivation.  At independence, the only
intelligent thing we could accomplish was for the "president's" tribe to
acquire land from other tribes as much and fast as possible. What really is
our problem?
 


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entire system?)


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Image removed by sender. A policeman inspects one of the vacant tents during
the night at the Kapkembu camp in Kuresoi District where those evicted from
Mau Forest are camping. A survey conducted by the Nation found that people
posing as evicted have started trooping into the camps. Photo/HEZRON NJOROGE

A policeman inspects one of the vacant tents during the night at the
Kapkembu camp in Kuresoi District where those evicted from Mau Forest are
camping. A survey conducted by the Nation found that people posing as
evicted have started trooping into the camps. Photo/HEZRON NJOROGE 

By JOY WANJA and GEORGE SAYAGIEPosted Sunday, December 13 2009 at 21:11

Tricksters have infiltrated camps for people evicted from Mau Forest putting
into jeopardy the government's compensation plan.

Related Stories

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Former squatter, 72, dies from cold 
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Mau children get a first sight of mzungu 

The taxpayer now stands to lose millions of shillings if the imposters are
not identified and kicked out, the Nation has learnt.

Scores of residents of the reserve areas near the camps have assumed the
status of refugees by day and home owners at night, in a ploy to benefit
from a resettlement package that may be given to the displaced persons. The
government's own audit has confirmed that nearly 3,000 homesteads in the
camps are those of imposters.

Mau is Kenya's largest indigenous forest and the biggest water tower with at
least 12 rivers originating from it. They include Ewaso Ng'iro, Sondu, Mara
and Njoro and encroachment on it has led to the drying up of several lakes
in the Rift Valley, which solely feed off its waters.

Mau's strategic importance lies in the ecosystem services it provides to
Kenya and beyond, including the regulation of river flow, flood mitigation,
water storage, reduced soil erosion and biodiversity.

Its continued destruction, therefore, threatens to cause a water crisis of
national and regional proportions that could extend far beyond the borders
of Kenya.

Daily Nation journalists visited camps at Kipkongor and Kurbanyat where more
than 1,000 families ordered out of the forest in the first phase of
evictions are staying.

The visit established that while the tents are fully occupied with men,
women and children during the day, many of them were vacant at night.

Transition camps

Mr Ezekiel Kirui, the vice-chair of the camp, confirmed that many people
from the nearby Kapkembu settlement scheme were masquerading as having been
evicted and have been trickling to the transitional camps during the day. At
night their tents are deserted.

Mr Kirui who moved out of Tilolwet Village in the forest, said: "Some of us
in these camps are land speculators and are here expecting to hijack the
opportunity and get compensation." 

He said the number of those evicted in a camp called Tarta had shot up since
the government announced a Sh35,000 compensation for the victims. 

The cheats are also benefiting from humanitarian aid of food, blankets and
medicine provided by charitable organisations and the government.

This had drastically reduced the rations for genuine victims of eviction, Mr
Kirui said.

"The first registration conducted indicated that we are around 684 families,
but the number has since risen to more than 2,000 families with many still
streaming in," he said. 

 

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From: jbatec at yahoo.com (Judy Miriga)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:14:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Goldenberg scandal
Message-ID: <599257.21432.qm@web57307.mail.re1.yahoo.com>



?
Goldenberg scandal

The Goldenberg scandal was a political scandal where the Kenyan government was found to have subsidised exports of gold far beyond standard arrangements during the 1990s, by paying the company Goldenberg International 35% more (in Kenyan shillings) than their foreign currency earnings. Although it notionally appears that the scheme was intended to earn hard currency for the country, it is estimated to have cost Kenya the equivalent of more than 10% of the country's annual Gross Domestic Product [1], and it is possible that no or minimal amounts of gold were actually exported. The scandal appears to have involved political corruption at the highest levels of the government of Daniel Arap Moi. Officials in the current government of Mwai Kibaki have also been implicated.





Contents[hide]

1 Background 
2 Details 
3 Bosire report 

3.1 Travel restrictions 
4 Prosecutions 
5 See also 
6 External links 
7 References 
[edit] Background
Similar to most countries, Kenya encourages international trade by granting tax-free status to commercial enterprises involved in the export of goods and sometimes subsidizes these exports. The Goldenberg scandal was based on the fact that exporters who deposited U.S. dollar earnings with the Kenya central bank received in exchange the equivalent in Kenyan shillings plus 20 percent.
However, gold mining represented a tiny portion of Kenya's GDP, with only one operational gold mine (at Kakamega). Goldenberg International therefore developed a scheme of smuggling gold into Kenya from Congo, so that it could legally export it more than the export price from the government.
[edit] Details
The chief architect beyond the scheme was a relative of the Kenyan businessman Kamlesh Pattni. However, it was Pattni who established Goldenberg International to implement the scheme. [2] The very large sums involved (600 million dollars) indicate that the senior government officials were at least complicit. Almost all the politicians in the Moi government and a considerable percentage of the current Kibaki government have been accused. The judicial system also appears to have been deeply involved, with twenty three of Kenya's senior judges resigning after evidence indicated their involvement [3].
The scheme began in 1991, almost immediately after the Kenya government introduced measures to reform the economy and increase international trade and investment, and seems to have stopped in 1993 when it was exposed by a whistleblower, David Munyakei. As a result of this, Munyakei was fired from his position at the Central Bank of Kenya, and spent the next decade of his life poor and largely unemployed. He died in August 2006, leaving three daughters and his wife.[4] There have been two investigations on the scam, one under the Moi government and the other under the current government. The gold was likely imported from Democratic Republic of the Congo, and therefore probably helped finance the war that raged (1997-2002) in that country.
[edit] Bosire report
On February 3, 2006 A report by Mr Justice Bosire [5] recommended that current Education Minister George Saitoti should face criminal charges for his actions and that former President Daniel arap Moi should be further investigated. Saitoti was both vice president and finance minister under Moi in the early 1990s. On 13 February Saitoti's resignation was announced by President Kibaki in a television address.[6]
The report said that records presented at the inquiry showed that Lima Ltd, which is associated with Mr Gideon Moi, Mr Nicholas Biwott, and two other people received Sh6.3 million from Goldenberg. However, the Commission concluded that in respect of Nicholas Biwott, who had not been in government at the time, ?no moneys of Goldenberg were involved?, the matter was outside the terms of reference and the commission could enquire into it. [7]
The report also said Sh158.3 billion of Goldenberg money was transacted with 487 companies and individuals. A list of exhibits compiled by the commission puts Goldenberg International Ltd at the top of the primary recipients of the money, at Sh35.3 billion. The directors of Goldenberg were named as Mr Pattni and Mr Kanyotu. Although Mr Kanyotu was the director of the Special Branch and a director of First American Bank, he described himself as a farmer in Goldenberg documents. President Moi was named by Mr Pattni as having been a shareholder of GIL by nominee.
[edit] Travel restrictions
Shortly after, Saitoti along with 20 several others suspected to be involved in the scandal were prohibited from leaving the country and ordered to surrender any weapons they possessed. Among those named were

Gideon Moi, Retired President Moi's son, also the Baringo Central MP 
Mr Philip Moi Retired President Moi's son 
Mr Moi's lawyer, Mr Mutula Kilonzo 
Mr Moi's former personal assistant, Mr Joshua Kulei 

former Central Bank of Kenya governor Eric Kotut 
former Central Bank of Kenya deputy governor Eliphas Riungu 
former Central Bank of Kenya employee Job Kilach. 
former Central Bank of Kenya employee Tom Werunga 
former Central Bank of Kenya employee Michael Wanjihia 
Philip Murgor, the former director of public prosecutions 

Mr Murgor's law firm represented the Central Bank of Kenya during the two-year public inquiry headed by Mr Justice Bosire. 

Former Treasury permanent secretary Charles Mbindyo 
former Treasury permanent secretary Wilfred Karuga Koinange 
former Treasury permanent secretary Joseph Magari 

Prof George Saitoti, who resigned as Education minister. 
Goldenberg architect Kamlesh Pattni 
Pattni's business partner and former Special Branch chief James Kanyotu 
former commissioner of Mines and Geology Collins Owayo 
Mr Arthur Ndegwa, senior mining engineer in the Commissioner of Mines Nairobi office 

former commissioner of Customs and Excise Francis Cheruiyot. 
former Kenya Commercial Bank general manager Elijah arap Bii 
Former president Moi himself was not listed.
?
The Law Society of Kenya chairman Tom Ojienda criticised Police Commissioner Hussein Ali?s move to seize travel documents. He described the decisions as "a total violation of the law and the Constitution". Ojienda regretted that individuals had been charged, tried and convicted by the court of public opinion and the media or through political statements. He commended three Cabinet ministers who resigned to pave way for investigations into the Anglo Leasing and Goldenberg scandals. "The resignation of three members of Cabinet signifies the maturity of our democracy, where leaders whose reputations are besmirched would opt to resign pending investigations to clear their names rather than hold the Government hostage. Such resignations are no pointers to guilt." [8]
[edit] Prosecutions
Two transactions stand out - one for Sh5.8 billion from the Central Bank to Goldenberg International in 1993, personally authorised by then-president Daniel Arap Moi, and another for Sh13.5 billion. The then CID director Joseph Kamau told reporters on March 9, 2006 that files on Pattni, Kanyotu, Koinange, Kotut, Bii, Riungu and Werunga had been passed to attorney-general Amos Wako. Wako has been attorney-general since 1991, when Moi was in power.
Wako is recommending that the country's chief justice consider overturning a previous court order exempting Mr Saitoti from prosecution. All except Werunga are to be charged.[9] The prosecution hopes that Werunga will be their witness. [10]
In August 2006 it was reported that a constitutional court had ruled that Saitoti could not be charged. [11] The Kenyan media reacted negatively to the decision. The Kenya Times saw political motives behind it[12], while The Daily Nation editorialised that the "War on graft is, indeed, lost".[13]
[edit] See also

Corruption in Kenya 
Anglo Leasing Scandal 
John Githongo 
Nicholas Biwott 
[edit] External links

BBC 
A short story on Goldenberg 
USA government study of Kenya's mineral industry(pdf) 
Document attempt by government to place blame on a Canadian 
Forensic accountants traces goldenburg transaction 
This article may explain Goldenburg in a different style 
CNN report on deportation of Canadian 
Involvement of judges in Goldenburg scandal 
Graft evidence stuns Kenyan MPs 
[edit] References

^ BBC News: Moi 'ordered' Goldenberg payment 
^ East African Standard Faces behind the Goldenberg scam 
^ Corruption conventions lack clout 
^ Mambo Africa - Death of a Whistle blower 
^ Moi 'knew about' Kenya gold scam 
^ BBC News: Kenyan 'graft' ministers resign 
^ [www.tikenya.org/documents/Goldenberg%20Report.pdf Judicial Commission of Inquiry into the Goldenberg Affair] paragraph 694 
^ East African Standard: LSK criticises minister on graft assets 
^ BBC: Kenyans facing Goldenberg charges 
^ The Standard: AG orders prosecution of Goldenberg suspects 
^ Former vice-president escapes graft charges The Guardian 
^ Kenyan Judiciary struggles to pass the integrity test 
^ Goldenberg: Constitutional Court Ruling a Blow to Kenya?s Anti-Corruption Rhetoric? 
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldenberg_scandal"

Categories: Scandals | Corruption in Kenya


Judy Miriga 
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Executive Director 
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:09:39 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] Suggestions for your next vacation WOW !!!!!!
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From tottie.otinyo at gmail.com  Mon Dec 14 23:31:05 2009
From: tottie.otinyo at gmail.com (Truphena Otinyo)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:31:05 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] birthcertificate
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hi YP's

What is the procedure if one would like to get a birth certificate, with no
other documents

Tru

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From jairuschurch at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 15 00:01:30 2009
From: jairuschurch at yahoo.com (Jagem K'Onyiego)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:01:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: [ProgressiveMinds] WHY KENYAN LEADERS ALWAYS
	WOODWINK THE KENYAN PUBLIC
In-Reply-To: <COL108-W246AD3DF424DE2B4A20ECBBB890@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <586008.98718.qm@web62105.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Daktari,
?
Did your Grandmother ever tell you about the story of the girl who, seeked attention from the villagers by crying that she was being attacked by "Ondieg? Otoyo" (hyena) every time the Villagers would go running to save her only to realize that it was a hoax? So the day the real Hyena came, she went on a desperate cry, so passionate trying to convince the villagers that it was a real Hyena. But the Villagers thought that as before, she was just trying to deceive them.
?
So Otoyo went with her and had a bumptious meal out of her.? That Hadithi tells us that one should not dwell on "hoaxes" more so spending a lot of time writing irrelevant material that may or may not have been substantiated. The more I follow your writing the more it seems as you are getting frustrated to the point of desperation. May I offer you my two cents advise, that A Kenyan Politician really does not care about your attacks on them. Top of this, there are very few people who will borrow from your advice to move into action. It therefore remain that for you to make an impact? so that these Waheshimiwa will listen, you may want to change tact.
?
Secondly the path you are now treading on of looking at the educational backgrounds, ain't gonna take you far. Neither will it stand well with many people in Kenya. I can tel you that right now, that, that now you are hitting below the belt. Whether it is the truth or not No Politician in Kenya wants to be reminded of their illiteracy level or weak education
?
Let me jog you memory if this might have gone out of your RAM. Not many years ago there was a very powerful MP from Nakuru North. He was a very pragmatic man, full of action. He conducted many many Harambes and built a number of Primary schools in this manner. But he never knew how to read or write Many still remember him for what he did. Mr. Kariuki Chotara was from Nakuru North.
?
Another Example. One MULU MUTISYA alias Mburu Mbuthia, is one of the best Kamba politician that ever emerged from that Land . There is no comparison to him in terms of Development and service to Ukambani. He never knew hoe to read or write. His?pen was his finger prints
Another one is the Man famous for TIP TIP, Amani Kenya. He even admited that he was not good at writing or reading the the two Languages Swahili and Kiengresa. But he has done a lot in Ukambani, far much better than those Politicians who Yap Yap, are educated, bu offer no development ideas at all.
?
All I am saying is that you should not dismiss people because of their lack of education. We have seen in many instances that low level educated Kenyans many a times can do better than the professors, who think that their name tag is a highway to development for their constituents.
?
K'Onyiego?
--- On Mon, 12/14/09, barack abonyo <luo31 at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: barack abonyo <luo31 at hotmail.com>
Subject: [ProgressiveMinds] WHY KENYAN LEADERS ALWAYS WOODWINK THE KENYAN PUBLIC
To: "jaluo jaluo" <jaluo at jaluo.com>, eastafrican at nation.co.ke, publiceye at publiceyesite.org, "newvision" <newvisionkenya at yahoogroups.com>, "youngprofessionals" <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>, progressiveminds at yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 1:40 AM


? 



Just had a whisper. Raila Odinga is nolonger Arab Mibei. He is Kariuki or should I say Mwangi. I cannot remember my Kikuyu. How do you say son of Mwangi in Kikuyu. Well well well. I got mixed up. Where is the tail or the head. No one knows. What is is left is an animimal called Kenya. No one claims the whole loot of animal. Some claim the tail, some the head while others everything.
?
Well I am talking like I do not belong to my motheland. Indeed I am discussing the point like some folk are better than me. Yes I am talking like I do not? have my balls in my hands and yet indeed I do. I am simply woodwinked. Woodwinked indeed I am. I have put my tail between my legs and hoped that the son of Odinga, KIibaki, Kenyatta and Mudavadi will make sme noble decision on my behalf and that at their decision the sky will give up the rain.
?
Guys, what a trash. Yes trash indeed. The son of Odinga, Mudavadi and Kenyatta have nothing extra. I went to schoool with some of them and to tell you the trueth they could not prove that they have anything extra. They are ?human if not less human at times. I will explain further in my next draft. 
?
The most unforturenate thing is that many Kenyans belieive that they do have an extra ball. Some even believe they are extraterrestrial. Plainly stated, they are the "shit ". And if one, Dr.Barack Abonyo appear and state that they want to be president, they will ask quetions like "Who does he think he is" Can he be above our god?
?
?
My quetion is who is Uhuru, who is Mudavadi, who is Knyatta, who is Raila. In my opinion, they are just people, whose parents happenned to have paved some way. And believe me , they themselves know that they are just people. They are neither devils nor engels. However,? they have now woodwinked Kenyan public that they are demigods, that nobody can become. That noone can lead Kenya except them. They themselves know that they are lieing. The Kenyan public are the ones who have not woken up to the lie. And?to that who shall I castigate? ?Kenya! Oh Kenya! when will you wake up?
?
?Any how, my response is in in two words. Damn Bullshit. We can do better. Some of us have better credentials than these people.
?
Ok lets prove it.Uhuru went to this obsecure school whose name no one knows called Amhrest College,USA.??Gentlemen, this is an extrmely small liberal Arts Small School. And by the way, did Uhuu pass his CPE. Furthermor, where did Kalonzo, Ruto, Raila and Balala go to college. In brief,?they are not? interlectual OR REVLUTIONARY. Besides?they have not done anything beyond these primary education levels or challenging Moi and yet Kenyans want to believe that they?are way ?better than Dr. Matunda Nyanchama, Dr. Shem Ochguodho, or Dr. PLO Limumba or Dr. Matunga Mark. I am so ineterested in knowing, how devils perform miracles. Please just convince me how they are better.
?
I just want to know how Uhuru, Jimi, Castro, Musalya etc become visionaries while?Matunga become nobody.
?
Can someone help me figure this out. If one can change this notion, then he can change leadership in Kenya. My bet is that untill all of us start selling who we are, we will be lead by the Mugabes of kenya.
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Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send her an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number (won't be published).

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From kaburiah at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 01:55:44 2009
From: kaburiah at gmail.com (Harun Kaburia)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:55:44 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Digital television - where art thou in Kenya?
Message-ID: <ad6589780912142255l16db4ae5h9e4602f2bf3ec2f5@mail.gmail.com>

Dear YPs,

Now that the Kenyan TV has gone digital, do we have fully digital TVs
available in Kenya? If so, where can one get one and for how much?

It would be nice to have a fully digital TV instead of having to attach ' an
addendum' to a lovely flat screen or plasma TV to make it 'compliant'.

Kind regards,

Harun.

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Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
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Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members to LYP, To chart the way forward for LYP for Year 2010, Make new friends & have fun & Eating Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send her an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number (won't be published).

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From jairuschurch at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 15 01:11:24 2009
From: jairuschurch at yahoo.com (Jagem K'Onyiego)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:11:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] RE: Nisan Altima 2004 Sedan / 2005 Mercedes
	Benz ML 350 SUV both LHD.
In-Reply-To: <SNT106-W126E4B895B01E66492B9C199880@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <616543.85297.qm@web62106.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Wagah,
?
Talk to your Mechanic first and let him look into the Vehicle. Now, if Your nissan was made in Japan then they normally have a provision or option for Right Hand Drive, meaning there is provision for all ammenities on both left and Right sides of the car. But if it was manufactured somewhere in Indiana or Detroit then it might not have these as it will be for American market alone.
?
Despite that Jua Kali guys in Kenya will chang this for you quickly. The obstacle will be with Customs. Therefore if your Mechanic finds out that the Nissan has provisions then he can change the steering column and the pedals before you ship it out.
?
K'Oyiego

--- On Mon, 12/14/09, george ochieng <ochieng7 at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: george ochieng <ochieng7 at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] RE: Nisan Altima 2004 Sedan / 2005 Mercedes Benz ML 350 SUV both LHD.
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 5:02 PM




Hello Fred,
The best way is to change them into right hands.people do it here in Japan and it is possible that you can send the same cars once you have converted them to RHDs.
George japan



Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:52:36 -0800
From: fredwagah21150 at yahoo.com
Subject: [YP_Ke] RE: Nisan Altima 2004 Sedan / 2005 Mercedes Benz ML 350 SUV both LHD.
To: info at kebs.org
CC: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com



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I'm trying to find out what the procedures I need to do or if there is any kind of waiver to transport LHD vehicles into Kenya. I read at sometimes that? the government banned the importation of LHD. I'm a kenya citizen and been residing in the USA for the last years and now planning to come and settle home. The? vehicles have been fully paid and selling them in USA will not fetch? good money to enable me buy in Kenya, the vehicles are owned by both my wife and me.

Any information please!

Yours

F Wagah



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?
Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members & Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.
?
To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number.
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Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.
?
To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send her an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number (won't be published).
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Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send her an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number (won't be published).

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From franklinm3 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 15 03:11:20 2009
From: franklinm3 at yahoo.com (Francis Njuguna)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:11:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Word for the day
Message-ID: <244808.10795.qm@web52808.mail.re2.yahoo.com>



"Come, descendants of Jacob, let us walk in the light of the LORD!"
Isaiah 2:5

What is the light of the Lord? His Word and the Holy Spirit. In the
light, we see all there is to see. We see the pitfalls and traps that
would trip us up if we were walking in the darkness. We also see the
beautiful scenery along our way, the gifts God gives us, the faces of
our loved ones. When we walk in the light, we truly see!

For more insights and inspiration listen to "Word for Today" by Chuck
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Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send her an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number (won't be published).

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From sirpetersonjr at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 02:47:32 2009
From: sirpetersonjr at gmail.com (Sir Peterson)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:47:32 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] RE: Clearing & Forwarding Job
Message-ID: <effd9f1b0912142347y6dce4294wec0187c70ba980fe@mail.gmail.com>

*Dear Yong Professionals,
Are you experienced in clearing & forwarding business. Send your CV to our
E-mail: eldoradotradingco1 at gmail.com*

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Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send her an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number (won't be published).

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From eddommiex at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 15 03:36:53 2009
From: eddommiex at yahoo.com (DOMMIE.M.N)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:36:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] LHD VEHICLES- Nisan Altima 2004 Sedan / 2005
	Mercedes Benz ML 350 SUV both LHD.
In-Reply-To: <SNT106-W126E4B895B01E66492B9C199880@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <364105.61227.qm@web112114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Fred,
L.H.D vehicles are not allowed into the country by Kenya Bureau of Standards.I checked with them and now i think the best option is to change the dashboard if you dont want to sell them.L.H.D unless you have special exemption from Minister of Industrialisation.Thanks in advance!


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--- On Mon, 12/14/09, george ochieng <ochieng7 at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: george ochieng <ochieng7 at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] RE: Nisan Altima 2004 Sedan / 2005 Mercedes Benz ML 350 SUV both LHD.
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 5:02 PM




Hello Fred,
The best way is to change them into right hands.people do it here in Japan and it is possible that you can send the same cars once you have converted them to RHDs.
George japan



Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:52:36 -0800
From: fredwagah21150 at yahoo.com
Subject: [YP_Ke] RE: Nisan Altima 2004 Sedan / 2005 Mercedes Benz ML 350 SUV both LHD.
To: info at kebs.org
CC: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com



#yiv736126183 .ExternalClass DIV
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I'm trying to find out what the procedures I need to do or if there is any kind of waiver to transport LHD vehicles into Kenya. I read at sometimes that? the government banned the importation of LHD. I'm a kenya citizen and been residing in the USA for the last years and now planning to come and settle home. The? vehicles have been fully paid and selling them in USA will not fetch? good money to enable me buy in Kenya, the vehicles are owned by both my wife and me.

Any information please!

Yours

F Wagah



-- 
7 DAYS TO GO! LYP BONDING SESSION & NYAMA CHOMA.
?
Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members & Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.
?
To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number.
?
Meeting Point: Green Corner @ 10.00 am, so that we can go together.
?
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Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
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Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members to LYP, To chart the way forward for LYP for Year 2010, Make new friends & have fun & Eating Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.
?
To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send her an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number (won't be published).
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Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members to LYP, To chart the way forward for LYP for Year 2010, Make new friends & have fun & Eating Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send her an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number (won't be published).

Meeting Point: Green Corner @ 10.00 am, so that we can go together.

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From eddommiex at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 15 03:47:01 2009
From: eddommiex at yahoo.com (DOMMIE.M.N)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:47:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] MOMBASA BUSES
In-Reply-To: <954973.31937.qm@web54606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <81435.87347.qm@web112103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

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--- On Mon, 12/14/09, Mwanaa Nzisa <mutunga at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Mwanaa Nzisa <mutunga at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] MOMBASA BUSES
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 7:46 AM





Mash has something like that

?Anthony Mutunga : 
mutunga at yahoo.com 
Tel: Safaricom: 254 0722 833048/ 0726 102008
YU: 254 0752 833048/ 0751 833048
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From: Winfred Nyambura <winfred at panafricantrucks.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 5:10:46 PM
Subject: [YP_Ke] MOMBASA BUSES







Do we have any online booking for buses going to Mombasa i.e. mash cool, coast air, horizon, etc. do they have websites ama how do they operate in this wave of stiff competition and technology. 
?
Regards,
?
?
?
?
Save a tree. Don't print this e-mail unless it's really necessary.
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Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members & Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.
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Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
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Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members & Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.
?
To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number.
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Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members to LYP, To chart the way forward for LYP for Year 2010, Make new friends & have fun & Eating Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send her an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number (won't be published).

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From kariaku.chris at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 04:44:52 2009
From: kariaku.chris at gmail.com (chris kawaiku)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:44:52 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Laugh your way to a better marriage DVD
In-Reply-To: <91629a380912140107u139e3e87t3a84a666631c9fea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91629a380912140107u139e3e87t3a84a666631c9fea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91629a380912150144t32582306u5dd167100c5c787f@mail.gmail.com>

*** Mark Gungor*

In this highly-entertaining DVD, national marriage expert Mark Gungor
explores the differences between men and women or what he calls, "The Laws
of Relational Physics". Specifically, how men and women are wired
differently. They act differently, they communicate differently and most
importantly, they think differently. Mark shows couples that their problems
may result from how men and women THINK about life in a different way. He
explains that many of the struggles couples face in marriage are the result
of a HEAD problem, not a HEART problem.

In addition you will discover:

   - The importance of sex in your marriage.
   - About that secret place your husband loves to go to - "The Nothing
   Box".
   - How to get a man to do what you want him to do.
   - Four simple steps to change the flow of give and take in your
   relationship.


This DVD is taken from Marks weekend seminar, Laugh Your Way to a Better
Marriage. Honest, hard-hitting and hilarious, this is a DVD you will want to
share with friends and family over and over.

*Contents of the DVD is as Follows*

*CD 1*

1-01 Tale of Two Brains 1.

1-02  Tale of Two Brains 2.



*CD 2*

2-01 Yo Mama Session 1.

 2-02 Yo Mama Session 2.



* CD 3*

3-01 How to stay married and not kill anybody - 1

3-02 How to stay married and not kill anybody - 2.



*CD 4*

4-01 Is there a such a thing called a Soul Mate.

4-02 Is Marriage is easy.

4-03 Is it ok to have expectations in Marriage.

4-04 Is Marriage a 50 50 proposition.

4-05 Do I have to talk to my spouse of things that don't interest me.

4-06 Why is communicating so hard after marriage.

4-07 Why can't my spouse just say what they mean.

 4-08 My spouse never talks

4-09 Woman should take from their husbands.

4-10 I asked more than once

4-11 A man still does not do anything.

4-12 How can I get my husband to be like other husbands

4-13 Do Spouses need to do the same things together

4-14 It is important to analyse why the husband do what he does.

4-15 Self Image is very important.

4-16 Why do men ignore their wife and children.

4-17 Sex before marriage.

4-18 Can the effects of pornography be reversed.

4-19 Teenagers should hear my talk on sex and masterbating.

4-20 What about masterbating if we're separated for long periods of time.

4-21 Does God Heal.

4-22 The Initiator

4-23 My husband only pays attention when he wants sex

4-24 Can I use Sex to get what I want.

4-25 Cause and effect.

4-26 My husband wants sex all the time.

4-27 Spouse does not turn them on.

4-28 What do I do if sex gets boring.

4-29 The RESET button.


Laugh your way to a better marriage DVD  for only Ksh800

contact chris on 0721 584 790

-- 
5 DAYS TO GO! LYP BONDING SESSION & NYAMA CHOMA.

Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members to LYP, To chart the way forward for LYP for Year 2010, Make new friends & have fun & Eating Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send her an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number (won't be published).

Meeting Point: Green Corner @ 10.00 am, so that we can go together.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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From imagorom at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 15 06:51:25 2009
From: imagorom at yahoo.com (moses imagoro)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 03:51:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] URGENTLY REQUIRED IN SAUDI ARABIA DESIGN ELECTRICAL
	ENGINEER
Message-ID: <199939.5920.qm@web50307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


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-- 
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Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members to LYP, To chart the way forward for LYP for Year 2010, Make new friends & have fun & Eating Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send her an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number (won't be published).

Meeting Point: Green Corner @ 10.00 am, so that we can go together.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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From jamaowera at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 08:26:34 2009
From: jamaowera at gmail.com (Jamakairo Olale)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:26:34 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] DID UHURU DITCH KANU
Message-ID: <135328f20912150526p58f70182w5d16b6631a986835@mail.gmail.com>

Other  political  parties are busy  discussing the draft, where is  KANU?,
How  comes  UHuru  is  so obsessed  with  KKK  rather  than  building the
political  party  that  gave him  the  deputy premiership?  or Did he use
KANU  us  vehicle to make  his  stomach FAT.
Orlale

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5 DAYS TO GO! LYP BONDING SESSION & NYAMA CHOMA.

Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members to LYP, To chart the way forward for LYP for Year 2010, Make new friends & have fun & Eating Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send her an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number (won't be published).

Meeting Point: Green Corner @ 10.00 am, so that we can go together.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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From jamaowera at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 08:19:25 2009
From: jamaowera at gmail.com (Jamakairo Olale)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:19:25 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] How The Younger Generation Of Leaders Betrayed Kenya
Message-ID: <135328f20912150519h749ce80aka4d918f26c0dd156@mail.gmail.com>

YP let us not be numbered  here,  are  we also  going to  Betray our
motherland,  let us  vote the new draft with our  heads

How The Younger Generation Of Leaders Betrayed Kenya
*By RASNA WARAH*

THERE WAS A BRIEF moment during Mr William Ruto's speech at the pre-election
ODM rally at Kasarani in 2007 that I felt the former Moi prot??g?? had
finally seen the light. Unlike Moi, the man was eloquent and inspiring and
seemed to genuinely care about Kenya. Seeing him among the youthful group
known as "the Pentagon" up on stage gave me hope for the future.

But now "the Pentagon" has morphed into the KKK alliance. (Are members of
this alliance aware that KKK is short for the Klu Klux Klan, the
much-loathed separatist and racist organisation in the United States?), and
the so-called youth of the Pentagon are turning out to be more of a
liability than an asset? What makes me really sad is that many of the
Pentagon members and advocates of the KKK-alliance are my age-mates. Now in
our 40s, we all belong to the generation that spent its childhood under the
Kenyatta regime and most of its young adulthood under Moi.

This makes us unique in several ways. One, because we did not experience
colonialism first-hand, we do not carry the baggage our parents did. We were
the first generation to enter integrated multiracial schools, which made us
much more relaxed around other races and ethnic groups than our parents. We
all escaped the 8-4-4 system of education, which, in retrospect, was
probably a blessing. We went to university in the days when university
education was free and when students were even entitled to "boom".

Those of us who went abroad to study always came back home and never thought
of emigrating (though the temptation to emigrate heightened during the
repressive 1980s when many of our colleagues and friends ended up in jail or
were tortured or killed). Many of us went on to achieve great things and
become trail-blazers in our professions.

But all of us paid the price of Moi-ism in one way or another; we bore the
brunt of Goldenberg-instigated inflation and collapsing services. We were
among the first to witness the country being destroyed by a clique of
powerful men. Being a product of Moi, Ruto benefited enormously from his
proximity to the man in State House. It is said that Moi would take the
young Ruto with him to trips abroad, the first one to Indonesia, when Ruto
was a university student and leader of what was known as the University
Christian Union Choir.

MOI'S FONDNESS FOR RUTO GAVE the latter access to lucrative business
ventures. It was probably during this time that Ruto began having
presidential aspirations. In 1992, the youthful Ruto became part of Youth
for Kanu '92, a notorious gang of youths that was formed to ensure that Moi
retained power under multipartyism, and which was known to dish out money to
Kanu supporters.

YK '92 was not just an ordinary youth group; its members enjoyed big money,
and enormous power. Like the dreaded Special Branch, its members seemed to
be in every nook and cranny of the country and operated with impunity. YK
'92 became the launching pad for many political aspirants, including our
minister for Agriculture.

There are many things I expected of my generation. I thought we would lead
this country out of its reactionary, short-sighted politics into a new world
order where every Kenyan would feel a sense of pride in his or her country.
But my generation let this country down like no other. We sat back and did
nothing while the Treasury was being looted. We did not make noise when land
was illegally grabbed. Those of us who got tired of fighting the system
retreated into little worlds we created to feel safe.

Some of us joined the church, others sought comfort in bars. Many of us even
decided that if we could not beat them, we would join them. So my generation
produced some of the most shrewd, aggressive, competitive, arrogant,
selfish, greedy, insensitive and myopic businesspeople and politicians this
country has ever seen. They are the people running the country: they chair
board meetings, head parastatals and NGOs, run multimillion shilling
companies, set government policy and represent the country at international
meetings.

We like to believe that the country is being run by a bunch of old men, but
the truth is, decisions all over the country are being made by people of my
generation. From the look of things, many of these decisions are not just
wrong for the country but for future generations as well. A wise man once
told me, "Beware of a young man in a hurry". William Kipchirchir Samoei arap
Ruto's pace should worry us all.

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5 DAYS TO GO! LYP BONDING SESSION & NYAMA CHOMA.

Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members to LYP, To chart the way forward for LYP for Year 2010, Make new friends & have fun & Eating Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send her an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number (won't be published).

Meeting Point: Green Corner @ 10.00 am, so that we can go together.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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From info at wetpaintmail.com  Tue Dec 15 11:30:07 2009
From: info at wetpaintmail.com (Hon. Martha Karua)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:30:07 -0800
Subject: [Jambo] Hon. Martha Karua Weekly Digest
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From kariaku.chris at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 09:47:18 2009
From: kariaku.chris at gmail.com (chris kawaiku)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:47:18 +1100
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Seasons Greetings
In-Reply-To: <955720c80912150614o45716e38oaaf9d6ffe9fadfab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <955720c80912150614o45716e38oaaf9d6ffe9fadfab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91629a380912150647u4eb9e743w55cbd5cfc32ce809@mail.gmail.com>

Beauuuutifuuuuul! Lol Thanks truphena

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Truphena Otinyo <tottie.otinyo at gmail.com>wrote:

> All the best
>
> With love
>
> Tru
>
> --
> 5 DAYS TO GO! LYP BONDING SESSION & NYAMA CHOMA.
>
> Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
> Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
> Venue: Olepolos Country Club
> Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members to LYP, To chart the way forward for
> LYP for Year 2010, Make new friends & have fun & Eating Nyama Choma
> Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K
> should be enough.
>
> To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send her
> an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number (won't be
> published).
>
> Meeting Point: Green Corner @ 10.00 am, so that we can go together.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Reach over 14,900 members directly by advertising on this forum. Charges
> are Ksh. 1,000 per advert which you can post 3 times. Call/Mpesa the Group
> Moderator on +254 721 663 208
>
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> youngprofessionals_ke+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com<youngprofessionals_ke%2Bunsubscribe at googlegroups.com>
>

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5 DAYS TO GO! LYP BONDING SESSION & NYAMA CHOMA.

Date: Sunday 20th Dec.
Time: 10:00am ? 6:00pm.
Venue: Olepolos Country Club
Agenda: Bonding, Inducting New Members to LYP, To chart the way forward for LYP for Year 2010, Make new friends & have fun & Eating Nyama Choma
Cost: Free. Everyone to pay for own transport, food & drinks. Roughly 1K should be enough.

To register & to confirm attendance, call Judy on 0722 588 288 or send her an email to jkaiguire at gmail.com with your name and phone number (won't be published).

Meeting Point: Green Corner @ 10.00 am, so that we can go together.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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From yjillo at fcb.co.ke  Tue Dec 15 09:56:46 2009
From: yjillo at fcb.co.ke (Yussuf Tusse Jillo)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:56:46 +0300
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] RE: A DECENT CAR GARAGE
In-Reply-To: <562781.1970.qm@web113214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <01b201ca7cc0$a42bf630$0302a8c0@DAAXP>
	<562781.1970.qm@web113214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B4DB4E6CF9CA654A8777301D6DBF4713525FBDA016@exch-nbi-hq01.fcb.co.ke>

Hi Good people,
Pleased to join this on-line family and friends.
Kindly advise me on the best car repair garage. My car got into an accident and my insurer asked me to select my garage of choice and it will be repaired soonest.
Please help me in selecting a garage that offers quality service - please don't sell the brand but the quality service.

Regards,
YJ


From: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com [mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of george omburo
Sent: 14 December 2009 22:30
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Current Noise Pollution law is SILLY

Dear Noise Makers,
There is bearable noise and Un-bearable noise. The law is to strike hard on the latter. Using a PA to preach to the whole estate and in the lee hours is nosence to me.  It clearly infringes on the earthly rights and freedom of many with little or zero net effect (adds no new converts). The Holy book is never contradictory on earthly commandments-obey the law of the land-whether just or not.
We thank God for the one and only but also pray that He blesses us with additional Michukis. Please join us in this prayer (no PA) but untill this prayer is answered, Long Live Mzee!
Omburo

--- On Mon, 12/14/09, DAI David Svarrer <david.svarrer at digitalageinstitute.com> wrote:

From: DAI David Svarrer <david.svarrer at digitalageinstitute.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Current Noise Pollution law is SILLY
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 8:23 AM
If someone pose in a way which you find distasteful, you are really not forced to look at it. If someone have made some writing, you are also not forced to have your eyes running through it.

But if a person is smelling (either perfume or the other..) or making loud sounds (either harmonic or noisy), you can't block it out. You would literally have to move physically to avoid it.

Therefore, it is a good constitutional right to be free to express oneself. But it is also a good constitutional right to be free of being forced listening to all those who want to express themselves.

A harmonic balance there would be preferable, for instance just mutual respect would be good - in that someone who want to make noise ask for permission from all neighbours beforehand, just as someone who want to burn his garbage in his garden should also ask for permission beforehand.


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From: Emillio Karega<http://us.mc1132.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=emilliokarega at gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Current Noise Pollution law is SILLY

Can you explain how Michuki Rules on SOUND POLLUTION infringe your constitutional rights?
I have always wondered how supposedly 'intelligent' 'God- fearing' people could go into a building, connect their PA system, adjust the same to the loudest volume possible and THEN PLACE AND POINT SPEAKERS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THEIR BUILDING! This is sheer lunacy, primitiveness, inconsiderate and lack of appreciating other human beings in your neighbourhood.MICHUKI IS RIGHT; As far as am concerned there is no difference between a shouting matatu tout, and the idiot who shout the loudest in the name of the Lord! Both do not show respect to others!
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Jectone Ndunya <jacknyaiga at yahoo.com<http://us.mc1132.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jacknyaiga at yahoo.com>> wrote:
Hey You,
I was once taught that any Acts of Parliament/rules or by laws made by any person / institution/ organization and which is found to be repugnant to the supreme Law( Constituiton) is to that extent bad, null and Void and unforcable. I therefore urge all of us to start looking for that constitution and read what it says about Bills of rights and freedom. The Noise law as drafted currently by Hon. Michuki is infringing on the very provions of the Constitution and hence needs to be referd to the Constitutional  Court for Interpretation. I also want to urge you Friends that we start scrutinizing those laws made by Local authorities to see whether they conform to the Provisions of the Constituiton and those found to be repugnant to the Supreme Law better thrown off the Window.

The same applies to Rallies an0d meetings, Parliament enacted a law prohibiting any person from organizing meeting/s attending Rallies unless authorised by the Police. One question i want to ask is Do they Follow this rule when organizing rallies? What does Constitution say about Freedom of association/ Assembly/gathering? This law to me is un Constitutional and we should have Some one going to court to seek in terpretation of that Act.


Have a thougtful weekend and Happy Jam day.

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From: jared ariemba <ariembajnr2 at yahoo.com<http://us.mc1132.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ariembajnr2 at yahoo.com>>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Current Noise Pollution is SILLY
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com<http://us.mc1132.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 3:21 AM
Hi Ibrahim and other noise makers.
We all hail Michuki. There are  seven churches surrounding where i stay. And they all preach using the big PA systems on every Sunday morning, disturbing my morning sleep, and yet each of them has just a hundful members who can be preached to without a PA system. Who tells them the rest of us are not born again and you want to bang the gospel into my ears.

We support Michuki. If the noisemakers want to make noise, let them pay for it.

Jerry Mogaka
"......obey God and Man all the time. In case of conflict between God's requirements and man's requirements, then obey God, because man cannot sustain your life....... "


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Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Current Noise Pollution is SILLY
Ibrahim!
man..you are a fanatic. Go get a license for your crusade and after the crusade uende Nyumbani  kimiya kimiya.Error! Filename not specified. Ukinyimwa licence: remember what the bible says"obey the authority!!!!....haha!!!!Error! Filename not specified.
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Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Current Noise Pollution is SILLY
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com<http://us.mc1132.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:25 AM
Unveiling the regulations, Hon Michuki advised: "Preach to the people who follow you, don't preach at large."Ibrahim, reminds me of Pat Robertson, controversial American preacher whose sermons and vile indoctrination border on extremism.
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:08:58 +0300
To: <youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com<http://us.mc1132.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Current Noise Pollution is SILLY

Ibrahim,

You come out as a bit naive and certainly embarassing to those of us who believe in the Almighty God together with you. The fact that Michuki came up with rules that infringe on religious worship can not necessarily send him to hell, and if you had understood the ways of God, they are very different from your naive thinking. Michuki has a noble idea which, like every other good idea, has it's own flows. We  need to be objective and see how we can work around the few flows in an otherwise excellent idea. Not to begin cursing around with very little understanding.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:10 AM, ibrahim kiche <ibrahimkiche at yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Kenyans,

Please the minister who came up with noise pollution is not God fearing and the heavens and the power of the Almighty God will come on him.

This is a SILLY thought and Foolishness and meant to come from the PERISHING Man. This is not Safety belt...

Anybody can tell him that;

 1.  The Crusades we will have and let him come with his men and see what will happen. He cannot stand before the Might Gospel. The Repentance meeting in Kisumu 2009-12-31 to 2010-01-01 we will attend.
 2.  The ramadhan will continue as usual.
 3.  The Football and all the shouts and Fun will continue.
 4.  The vehicles will move including his with that "noise"
 5.  The rally including political ones will continue.
 6.  The Chief baraza will move on,
 7.  The plains will land and fly with that noise.

Therefore the heavens (stars, sun and the moon, other heavenly body, the Mighty Military Angels of the Lord, the things on the Land and Water will rise to fight this matter.

Kenya is for God, that minister needs to know God.

Amen.

Shalom and With Calvary Love Always,
Ibrahim



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From: luo31 at hotmail.com (barack abonyo)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:41:42 +0000
Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] WHY KENYAN LEADERS ALWAYS WOODWINK THE KENYAN
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Guys guys, All of you are missing the point. The issue here is not PhD. Delink PhD from this and tell me why voters decided to reject Orengo when he differed with Raila. Tell me why Uhuru is considered a presidential candidate while some people like Kiai, Matunga etc are simply told you cannot. What good did Ruto do to be who he is now. And who is this guy called Mbugua. Yes they may be able to be down with the public but sometimes voter education may be important. It makes no sense to vote for thieves again and again and expect them to perform miracles.


And then when we ask what is wrong with Kenya we are told we are being elitist. 

 

Makwiny, Oduor, Janyandito etc, the trueth is that we are what is wrong with Kenya. If you and me stood for what is right then we could change Kenya. How do you have a minister for enviroment who knows nothing about the enviroment. He may perform but he may not be very well informed. And please do not tell me about Mulu Mutisya. Yes he achieved alot as a businessman and indeed helped alot of people but he should have not been made a minister in the Republic of Kenya. He did not have the capacity to interprate policy. It is wrong to still perpetuate this in the 21st century.


In some leadership position, you need informed people. If you want Kenya to develope into a first world the leadership must be knowledgable. Of course they do not need a PhD to do so but at least they need some education.
Again PhD is not the centre of the argument. The centre of argument is that Kenyans believe these are the only gene pool and yet when this gene pool is anlaysed the only thing that come out of it is inadequacy.
The comparisson between me and these people misses the point. I am not your pm, minister for agriculture, etc etc, neither do I intend to vie for a position. In that matter personalising my PhD and making it the centre of argument is immaterial.

 

No arrogance intended, it is just analysis of the type of leadership Kenyans and by extension Africa has chosen. 

As one once said, ?African vilify its intelectuals and praise their fools?
And it is true, that is the way we have ended up with Amin Dada, Mobutu, Mugabe and now Zuma.
And finally, for the record, I am not intending to contest any seat but I am going to work very hard to change people?s minds.  I am not interested in a political position right now
Barack
 


Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:16:40 -0800
From: danonguru at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] WHY KENYAN LEADERS ALWAYS WOODWINK THE KENYAN PUBLIC
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com






Kevin, you are not rude, you are not exact! This Abonyo portrays the entire USA as a block no serious African should attend school! I am sure he refers to Ugenya-Siaya when he says US. For one, Abonyo's (if this is his true name...I doubt) introduction depicts a man short of everything; class, reason, direction, education, name it! A standard 8 from a small obscure Rambira would easily think the author of Abonyo's mail is some Std 5 trying his first composition (It has no creativity, poorly drafted with illiterate grammar & spelling chaff).
In Kenya, Abonyo, we stopped feeding on PhDs! we have those poor coffee growers who may not present certificates, but they make the economy grow! Then we have intellectuals (unlike Abonyo), who spend their useful time and contacts abroad to bring investors! 
By the way, where is Abonyo writing from? We have personalities in this forum, and, Abonyo, real men like me use their full names in their addresses for we fear nobody will unveil us!
Please don't trash about Uhuru, Mudavadi, Kalonzo, Raila, Kibaki, bla bla,....right now we need contributions to the draft con...(oh, you have a PhD and cannot comment on trivial issues!) Pole
Dan

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From: Kevin Onsinyo <knyash87 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] WHY KENYAN LEADERS ALWAYS WOODWINK THE KENYAN PUBLIC
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Cc: "jaluo jaluo" <jaluo at jaluo.com>, eastafrican at nation.co.ke, publiceye at publiceyesite.org, "newvision" <newvisionkenya at yahoogroups.com>, progressiveminds at yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:20 AM







Dr Abonyo
 
Thank you for atleast trying to enlighten us but I have to agree with Lee. For a Ph.D holder, your post has redundancy and grammatical errors. You might be book smart, but that doesn't mean you are wise. What do you mean by saying Uhuru Kenyatta went to Amherst, a small liberal arts college, does that mean you are better than him? I'm not trying to be rude or anything but in future, humility goes a long way. When you are walking down the streets, people would not see Ph.D written all over your face. Lets face it dude, you are human like the rest of the world.    

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From: Lee Makwiny <amosogal at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] WHY KENYAN LEADERS ALWAYS WOODWINK THE KENYAN PUBLIC
To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com
Cc: "jaluo jaluo" <jaluo at jaluo.com>, eastafrican at nation.co.ke, publiceye at publiceyesite.org, "newvision" <newvisionkenya at yahoogroups.com>, progressiveminds at yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 5:44 AM



Barack Abonyo, PhD etc,
 
You are one such guy who can not win an election. Have you ever wondered why someone like Mulu Mutisya, Kalembe Ndile, Ochieng Daima are able to win elections and beat more educated people like you? Yes, for the simple fact, they are able to indentify with the common man. This your article is purely "elitist" and wont take Kenya anywhere. We have seen such people before, and they keep on loosing elections, infact, they wont even win a civic seat. I have an uncle who has PhD, the only help he can give you is to tell you to go to school, not solution, can't even pay for you a school fee. Now one time, i took to him some proposal by some women, you know what he did! He "marked" the proposal like the way they do to masters/PhD students and that was the end of the story. That reminds me of few people I have read about, one is called Bill Gates and the other one is "Emeagwali". We so many such people in Kenya. Infact, telling my son that he does not qualify for a parliamentary seat because I, the dad was once an MP is defeatist. Let Uhuru be judged as Uhuru, let Raila be judged as Raila, coz I dont see how it was the fault of their fathers to fight for Uhuru. Where was my (grand)father and your (grand)father then? May be they were busy looking after cows while Odinga went to Maseno!
 
Again, it high time that you stop making personality talks your pet subject. Take issues! Issues and Issues! Only then shal we(I) take you seriously. Otherwise I will take you to be like the Prof who constested presented his papers claiming he as seven degrees! Do you remember him?


On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:40 PM, barack abonyo <luo31 at hotmail.com> wrote:


Just had a whisper. Raila Odinga is nolonger Arab Mibei. He is Kariuki or should I say Mwangi. I cannot remember my Kikuyu. How do you say son of Mwangi in Kikuyu. Well well well. I got mixed up. Where is the tail or the head. No one knows. What is is left is an animimal called Kenya. No one claims the whole loot of animal. Some claim the tail, some the head while others everything.
 
Well I am talking like I do not belong to my motheland. Indeed I am discussing the point like some folk are better than me. Yes I am talking like I do not  have my balls in my hands and yet indeed I do. I am simply woodwinked. Woodwinked indeed I am. I have put my tail between my legs and hoped that the son of Odinga, KIibaki, Kenyatta and Mudavadi will make sme noble decision on my behalf and that at their decision the sky will give up the rain.
 
Guys, what a trash. Yes trash indeed. The son of Odinga, Mudavadi and Kenyatta have nothing extra. I went to schoool with some of them and to tell you the trueth they could not prove that they have anything extra. They are  human if not less human at times. I will explain further in my next draft. 
 
The most unforturenate thing is that many Kenyans belieive that they do have an extra ball. Some even believe they are extraterrestrial. Plainly stated, they are the "shit ". And if one, Dr.Barack Abonyo appear and state that they want to be president, they will ask quetions like "Who does he think he is" Can he be above our god?
 
 
My quetion is who is Uhuru, who is Mudavadi, who is Knyatta, who is Raila. In my opinion, they are just people, whose parents happenned to have paved some way. And believe me