From joragem at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 00:00:51 2010 From: joragem at gmail.com (Joram Ragem) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 00:00:51 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] When April Fool's Day, & Good Friday Sandwitch Our Beloved County - Kenya, it is not a coincidence. Message-ID: Hear Ye, Tomorrow, or today, depending on where you are, it will be March 31st. This is the day The ICC, gives it's ruling on Kenya's PEV perpetrators. It is obvious they chose this day. Like computerized programing, the release of their decision on this day was planned so as not to bias the Kenyan MP during the constitution making process. On this, The ICC was assuming the Kenyan MP was civilized enough to debate honestly and deliberate without self preservation to deliver the constitution to Wanjiku. Buy releasing their decision on this day, only my 10th great grandfather Ragem knows exactly what ramifications it's effect will be. What I know however, is that Kenya will be changed. My opinion is that it will never be business as usual in the political sphere. It's a promise, day after tomorrow, or after today, depending on where you are it will be April 1st. At this time, or as my kin would say, "e seche go go go," the Kenyan MP will conclude deliberation on The Draft Constitution. No, no, no. This, my friends, will NOT be an April fool's joke. Regardless of their decision, the constitution making process at Bunge will end because it was pre-programed to move forward. Because we killed each other when Kibaki stole the election, the process was programed like an electronic clock, and so its just a matter of time before it is time. A while back, I had a dream, that Kenyans will in future be able to run for office and be elected in constituencies where they do not necessarily belong to the dominant tribe. This of course is a dream I desire to see, yet many of us may not do so in our generation. I also wrote and predicted that because we killed each other after the last election, we might have just gone through a rebirth, or revolution like those famous in the history books regarding the nations considered mature in politics or great in establishment. Surely, this will pleasantly prove prophet Mutahi Nguyi a liar, since he predicts that our is still ahead. What is not a dream, is a fulfilment of a desire we've all longed for. That the Kenyan politicians would see an end to campaign based on "it was your turn to eat the last time, now it is our turn." and rather begin real campaign based on issues. On this, I say our beloved politicians will be able to see beyond tribe effective this Friday, and we will see alliances shift again as campaigns unite those otherwise thought of as foes. Yes, issues, and not tribe will take center stage na hiyo ni maendeleo! I say unto you, it is not without reason that this week ends with us celebrating Good Friday. My 10th great grandfather Ragem says thus "God, whether you appeal to him through Bahaula, Christ, Muhammad, Budha na kadhalika, will make this Friday will be good! It will be the begining of the end." And so I say, it may be the begining of the end of ICC, or Ocampo, or Anan, or PEV perpetrators or Old Constitution, or Kibaki, or the customary Kenyan politician, or AG, or High Court Judge, or Councillor. Whatever end it brings, may the week break as promised, this Good Friday. -- Joram Ragem wuod Ndinya, wuod Onam, wuod Amolo, wuod Owuoth, wuod Oganyo, wuod Mumbe, wuod Odongo, wuod Olwande, wuod Adhaya, wuod Ojuodhi, wuod Ragem! (Are you my relative?) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rkamuti at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 00:16:48 2010 From: rkamuti at gmail.com (Jobs36.COM) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:16:48 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Financial Accountant Message-ID: Dear Sir / Madam, Financial Accountant - WANTED http://www.jobs36.com/jobdetails.aspx?id=742 *Not* yet a *MEMBER *of Jobs36.Com? Register Today for the *LATEST JOBS ALERTS*: Click here and register *http://www.jobs36.com/register_form.aspx?Task=employee* To browse our web site and learn more click on the link below. http://www.jobs36.com Feel *FREE* to* FORWARD* this email to your FRIENDS *Thank you! * ** *Jobs36.Com* * Team* -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: MAIN IMAGE sambaza.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 115174 bytes Desc: not available URL: From prcanb at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 01:25:52 2010 From: prcanb at yahoo.com (Absalom Birai) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Greetings from Bonyunyu,Nyamira Message-ID: <873232.61588.qm@web38703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings from Bonyunyu,Nyamira.We arrived safely at Bonyunyu.Thanks for your prayers.At 10:00 AM,Thursday morning,April 1st,2010 Mama's last journey on earth will start.Then,her body will be removed from Nyamira District Hospital Mortuary. She will lay at her home at Bonyunyu awaiting burial tomorrow,Friday,April 2nd,2010. Things are challenging over here but we continue to rely on the Lord Jesus who has promised to supply all our needs.Please continue to pray for us. Our cell phone number here is 0710-485087 Blessings. Pr Birai -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hmumia at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 01:26:45 2010 From: hmumia at gmail.com (Harry) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:26:45 +0100 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Sharia Law is Retrogressive, Archaic and Inhuman Message-ID: Guys, we all know the Sharia law has some very stringent laws, even punitive. Some even inhuman. In Nigeria, and Somali, they apply these laws to the latter. In practice, religious fanatics are selectively using sharia law to oppress the poor and women. For example, because the sharia law stipulates the amputation of the arms of those who stole, a Fulani cattle rearer in Nigeria had his hand amputated and, subsequently, bled to death. Sharia forbids prostitution and adultery. They will stone to death or behead adulterers. To avoid tempting men, women are required to cover their faces in public places. Male students are required to seat in the front rows of classrooms while female students sit in the back rows. Later, boys and girls will be required to attend separate schools. Men and women must use separate buses. Women are forbidden from playing soccer. Motorcyclists are arrested and jailed for carrying female passengers. Since soccer, motorcycles and buses were not invented at the time the Koran was written, religious fanatics are obviously using Islam as a pretext for oppressing women. They have ordered all unmarried ladies to find a husband or lose their employments with the state government while they allow unmarried men to keep their jobs. Anybody caught drinking will be publicly flogged. They can award only men with beards government contracts. *Who crafted these laws and towards what end? Do they apply in our day and age?* -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelegwa at usiu.ac.ke Thu Apr 1 02:11:10 2010 From: aelegwa at usiu.ac.ke (Aggrey Elegwa) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:11:10 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] April fools' day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <917144AC21BC2D498EA97A03B2A3D0DA374AA7B32E@mail4.usiu.ac.ke> Could the 'Uganda surrenders Migingo Island ' story in the Daily Nation and the Obama June trip to Kenya in The Standard be a prank??? Even their attribution is quite suspect. Who thinks so? -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lawrencenzuve at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 04:31:48 2010 From: lawrencenzuve at gmail.com (Lawrence Nzuve) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:31:48 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Anyone knows of organisations that pay people to write on their blogs Message-ID: Guys, am in need of an organizations that pays people to contribute by writing on their blogs. Anyone with links or suggestions Lawrence -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolkorir at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 04:40:13 2010 From: carolkorir at yahoo.com (Carol Korir) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 01:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] RE: My Boss Eying on Me. In-Reply-To: <106268609-1270109950-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1362146263-@bda2490.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <106268609-1270109950-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1362146263-@bda2490.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <653315.84550.qm@web113306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hey,thse are the things that we as ladies find ourselves in and when you are done with it yo actualyy dont know how to explain how you got there,what did you see in that guy eneough to get that far. I understadn yeah,some financila security is very crucial and having someone chip in is a welcome relief but? by the end of the day its about morality.Imagine your fellow lady married to that man always cry to God every nite asking God what did i do to deserve all thse just because of you.Lady its just not right and try wht yu can to stay away. ________________________________ From: "ckmwangi72 at yahoo.com" To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 11:19:32 AM Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] RE: My Boss Eying on Me. Its your integrity what are you gonna tell your kids when your in a hospital bed full of sore and crap from the hiv you got from your perveted boss sue the shit out of him for harrasment dah.gal we got to present ourselves better than that I wish the wife finds out good luck with that Sent from my U.S. Cellular BlackBerry? smartphone ________________________________ From: shiko eva Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:09:55 +0300 To: Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] RE: My Boss Eying on Me. Your boss no no no you will eventually lose your job and your dignity On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Jane Rose wrote: Hi YPs, >My boss is eying on me and have already stated dated me. Am fearing him because he is a married and older than me. If i let him down, i might lose my job. Am a single mother of 2 who needs someone to assist me financially. He have offered himself to hep in raising my children. I am a saved woman >What do i do now? Do i take or refuse his offer? >-- >Countdown----TODAY. >? > >Hi YP in Mombasa, >? >Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >? >Venue - Sumerlink hotel >Date - 31st march 2010 >Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >? >Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >? >-- >Best Regards >Josephine Kamanthe >Tel: +254 723 736 086 > -- Countdown----TODAY. ? Hi YP in Mombasa, ? Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) ? Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". ? Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. ? -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- Countdown----TODAY. ? Hi YP in Mombasa, ? Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) ? Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". ? Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. ? -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: MAIN IMAGE sambaza.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 115174 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hmumia at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 02:11:52 2010 From: hmumia at gmail.com (Harry) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:11:52 +0100 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Martha Kaura - "ODM Bullied their way to power" Message-ID: Dear All, Fortunately for where i work, there is a TV on 6th floor and i got a chance to go to the TV room and catch up with Parliamentary Proceedings of yesterday. One thing that captured my attention is when Isaac Ruto, the fiery Chepalungu MP stood up to state that PNU stole the elections. This was during the debate on devolution, tabled by Orengo. Well, just to update you, and it was also shown on KTN prime at 9, Martha Karua stood on a point of order and asked the chair whether it was in order for the Chepalungu MP to suggest this when he had said that Kibaki won the elections in a public rally. She also said that ODM *bullied their way to power.* Has Martha Karua really changed? She still believes PNU won fair and Square? She still feels we needed to go to court? After Justice Evans Gicheru swore in the president? Has she really changed since resigning as Justice Minister? *I doubt!!* -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abogil at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 04:54:24 2010 From: abogil at yahoo.com (lorna abogi) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 01:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] RE: My Boss Eying on Me. In-Reply-To: <536302.39394.qm@web45509.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <102658.67431.qm@web110401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ? You may decide to take it but how sure are you he will take care of the kids after u give in. . He might just sleep with u then damp u and fire u!! I think the best thing is to avoid leading him on and giving him ideas and hope.Just say no-what's the worst that can happen. . loosing a job?is this the only job in the world and?aren't ur?kids growing?as they always have been even b4 ur boss came along-He is not God and cannot cut off ur hands such that u will never work again!! ? Shindwe that silly boss!!! --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Weaver Eric wrote: From: Weaver Eric Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] RE: My Boss Eying on Me. To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 1:33 AM dont be dumb..you are way too young to start inviting trouble..give it up,even if it will cost you jobo,come on From: shiko eva To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 11:09:55 AM Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] RE: My Boss Eying on Me. Your boss no no no you will eventually lose your job and your dignity On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Jane Rose wrote: Hi YPs, My boss is eying on me and have already stated dated me. Am fearing him because he is a married and older than me. If i let him down, i might lose my job. Am a single mother of 2 who needs someone to assist me financially. He have offered himself to hep in raising my children. I am a saved woman What do i do now? Do i take or refuse his offer? -- Countdown----TODAY. ? Hi YP in Mombasa, ? Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) ? Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". ? Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. ? -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- Countdown----TODAY. ? Hi YP in Mombasa, ? Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) ? Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". ? Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. ? -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- Countdown----TODAY. ? Hi YP in Mombasa, ? Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) ? Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". ? Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. ? -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andersonnyandiri at yahoo.co.uk Thu Apr 1 05:00:38 2010 From: andersonnyandiri at yahoo.co.uk (anderson nyandiri) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:00:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Corns in the name of Job agents In-Reply-To: References: , <1437154924-1270040850-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1549925438-@bda618.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <718235.51299.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com> We even have others in this forum, whose identity and operations we shall soon be highlighting.Just be vigilant fellow YPs. ________________________________ From: CONNIE SWAI To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, 1 April, 2010 11:11:52 Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] Corns in the name of Job agents This crooks should be jailed. Anyone who knows someone who can take action. Please send them to the offices to investigate and prosecute. Dont pay any money for someone to get you a job. Let the job agency negotiate with the employer who is searching to fill in the vacant position. ________________________________ Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Corns in the name of Job agents To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com From: mauricejoduor at yahoo.ca Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:07:34 +0000 People pay the money out of desperation Maurice Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network ________________________________ From: GALTON AMISSI Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:01:02 +0300 To: Subject: [YP_Ke] Corns in the name of Job agents I have received this mail and others and I think is from a cartel of people who are stealing money from kenyans in the pretense that they will secure them jobs in the middle East. Yp and others be warned. How can a jobless person get the non refund fee of 3k. -- Career Search Intl(K)Ltd" show details 10:55 am (1 minute ago) ATT: To all our clients, Kindly avail yourself to our office at Uniafric Hse, Koinange Strt, 2nd Floor, suite 206. We request all those who have never registered with us to do so the soonest. This is enable us serve you more efficiently. The processing/ Registration fee is KSH.3,000/=(Non- refundable). Thanking you in advance. 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Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 ________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abogil at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 05:04:05 2010 From: abogil at yahoo.com (lorna abogi) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 02:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] NAKUMATT ET AL -BEWARNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <839517.32856.qm@web110412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Or maybe if we are 2 or 3 shillings less and we have sweets from?home,?we can use them to top up the outstanding amount at the till. . . . --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Gichuru wrote: From: Gichuru Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] NAKUMATT ET AL -BEWARNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 1:37 AM David, You are right, we also have a role to play. We need to get those coins to circulation. I will pride myself as one person who faithfully will pass by a supermarket, not to buy anything, but to off-load the coins I have. I have such a trip today. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:15 AM, David K Kitur wrote: COINS..........COINS; Kenyans mostly in Nairobi keep coins in their houses.... every evening ..you keep them away..... from circulation?. Can we all agree to use the coins to buy our goodies? If we all agree; am sure Tuskys and other outlets will have the coins! -----Original Message----- From: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com [mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Faith Kiliswa Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:05 AM To: johngichuru2004 at gmail.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Subject: Fw: [YP_Ke] NAKUMATT ET AL -BEWARNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Imagine we should not let these guys take us a for a ride some of us shoppers encourage it though coz we accept sweets without any issue, not to mention that sometimes if you chungulia into the till, kuna 1/= coins mingi tu sana mimi i have gone to a Manager at Tuskys on more than three occasions and told him to get coins from his pocket then he will claim from the till .............. it works and i walk out smiling !!!! ?after all it is my change (rightfully) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gichuru" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] NAKUMATT ET AL -BEWARNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >I once passed by Nakumatt Mega for those kitchen budget kind of > shopping. My total came to ksh.392.00. I gave out ksh 400. The > gentleman infront of the till casually gave me ksh. 5.00 coin and > quickly turned to the next customer. Ala! I was flabbergasted. I > calmly informed him that I expected 8 bob as change. He looked at me > like I had just landed from the pluto. I almost thought I was mistaken > from the way he looked at me! He then blurted out, "hujui hatuna > coins!" and he casually turned to the other customer and looked at him > with those eyes of, "sorry for that rude interruption" His attitude > coupled with a simple calculation of how many illegal 2, 3, bobs they > were amassing per day made me quite worked up and didn't hesitate to > let him and his boss know as much. Long story short: I did not get my > 3 bob. How many do these supermarkets make in a day in those illegal > transactions. > > I once held a queue in Uchumi when they attempted to give me sweets as > change. I calmly told the cashier the last time I checked, sweets had > not been declared a legal tender. She got coins from I do not know > where and gave me my change. > > On 3/31/10, Felix Otiato wrote: >> Thank you Josiah. I will now be keen. Good tip. >> >> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:48 PM, josiah ogalo >> wrote: >> >>> Dear friends, >>> Hope you're doing very well as you read this mail. >>> It has just come to my attention that if you ever do shop using your >>> debit/credit cards. If this what you do then please be very careful with >>> these supermarkets, especially Nakumatt Holdings Ltd. >>> >>> I have had 5 incidences where my receipt showed items I did not buy >>> ranging >>> from 700-1000 which in all occasions is over 3K. This happens quite a >>> lot >>> in >>> many instances when there are many people on queues such that after >>> taking >>> your debit/credit card back you rarely want to check through the items >>> showing on your receipt. >>> >>> On these 5 occasions, the most recent one is where I bought apples worth >>> * >>> 250/=* amongst other items only to realize after my card had been >>> swipped >>> that the receipt read a different item, Turkey Minc which costs *980/=* >>> {*Difference >>> of 720/= which could comfortably buy me airtime!*} to which I complained >>> and demanded a cash rebate. >>> >>> At first they denied and said everything is okay on the receipt but I >>> took >>> issue with them and we went through the receipt viz what I had in my >>> shopping bag, only to realize the mistake was there. Since this has >>> happened >>> four other times and I did the same thing,all in different branches, I >>> tend >>> to think Nakumatt are up to a game many unwise shoppers are not aware >>> of, >>> kindly beware and always check your receipt thru before leaving the >>> till! >>> >>> It is very sad and for this cause, I shall buy from Uchumi supermarket >>> and >>> others, Nakumatt are gaining in an unfair way! Always be keen as you >>> shop. >>> >>> Affected Kenyan shopper! >>> >>> Regards >>> -- >>> Josiah Onyango >>> Mobile: +254 735 312678 >>> >>> -- >>> Countdown----TODAY. >>> >>> >>> Hi YP in Mombasa, >>> >>> Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >>> >>> Venue - Sumerlink hotel >>> Date - 31st march 2010 >>> Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >>> Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated >>> with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >>> >>> Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >>> >>> -- >>> Best Regards >>> Josephine Kamanthe >>> Tel: +254 723 736 086 >>> >> >> -- >> Countdown----TODAY. >> >> >> Hi YP in Mombasa, >> >> Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY ?(31st march 2010) >> >> Venue - Sumerlink hotel >> Date - 31st march 2010 >> Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >> Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated >> with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >> >> Come with ?FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >> >> -- >> Best Regards >> Josephine Kamanthe >> Tel: +254 723 736 086 >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > Gichuru > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY ?(31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with ?FRIENDS!!!! 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Waende Hague!....Especially our so called leaders. Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone from Zain Nigeria -----Original Message----- From: joshua.amolo at gmail.com Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:37:21 To: Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Ocampo gets a go ahead from ICC For small people but the bigwigs waende Hague Sent from my BlackBerry? -----Original Message----- From: mauricejoduor at yahoo.ca Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 02:17:10 To: Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Ocampo gets a go ahead from ICC I think Kenya should hold a local tribunal on this Courage Maurice Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network -----Original Message----- From: "Shadrack Kirunga" Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:18:35 To: Cc: mlalahoi Subject: [YP_Ke] Ocampo gets a go ahead from ICC The long awaited decision from the ICC judges is out: Ocampo can go ahead and investigate the perpetrators of the post election violence. This is likely to cause a huge reconfiguration of Kenya's political arena. Tungoje tuone!! -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -- Countdown----TODAY. 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URL: From jmwituria at kemri-nuitm.or.ke Thu Apr 1 05:30:00 2010 From: jmwituria at kemri-nuitm.or.ke (Joyce Mwituria) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 12:30:00 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Fw: World SHAME ...keep list going around the world.... Message-ID: <0B41C38C75574151B3608773B0D5FAC9@RoyHome> Subject: Fwd: World SHAME ...keep list going around the world.... - How cruel!!!! Denmark is a big shame. The sea is stained in red and it?s not because of the climate effects of nature. It's because of the cruelty that the human beings (civilised human) kill hundreds of the famous and intelligent Calderon dolphins. This happens every year in Feroe iland in Denmark . In this slaughter the main participants are young teens. WHY? To show that they are adults and mature.... BULLLLsh In this big celebration, nothing is missing for the fun. Everyone is participating in one way or the other, killing or looking at the cruelty ?supporting like a spectator? Is it necessary to mention that the dolphin calderon, like all the other species of dolphins, it?s near instinction and they get near men to play and interact. In a way of PURE friendship They don?t die instantly; they are cut 1, 2 or 3 times with thick hocks. And at that time the dolphins produce a grim extremely compatible with the cry of a new born child. But he suffers and there?s no compassion till this sweet being slowly dies in its own blood Its enough! We will send this mail until this email arrives in any association defending the animals, we won?t only read. Take care of the world, it is your home! Assine contra essa crueldade: Please type your name and forward to as many people as possible. Sign and send on ? this is serious..... Sign Against this cruelty: 1.- Ana kARINA Rivas (m) Mexico DF 2.- Carlos Enrique Bulle-Goyri. DF 3.- Alejandra Nabarro ( Mexico Cuernavaca ) 4.- Esteban criz mejia. Mexico DF 5.-ANDREA GONZALEZ ALVAREZ ( MEXICO ) 6.-Gonz?lez Alvarez Victor Rodrigo 7.-Ines Garcia Perez (M?xico) 8.-Stella Morales (M?xico) 9.-lgarcia (M?xico) 10.-Leticia Cu?llar (M?xico) 11.-Salma Urbina Aguilar (Quintana Roo, M?xico) 12.-DIANA LUCELLY POOT PUC (quintana roo, mexico ) 13.-Josue Acero Gonzalez ( Quintana Roo , Mexico ) 14.-Micaela Medina ( Argentina ) 15.-sofia bidondo( Argentina ) 16.- Ma. Marta Soruco ( Argentina ) 17.- Cyntia Mariela Roitman ( Argentina ) 18.-Aldana Mart?nez ( Argentina ) 19.- Adriana Salomon ( Argentina ) 20.-fernando valussi( argentina ) 21.-MARIANELA SANCHEZ( ARGENTINA ) 22.- Leyes Alberto Fabian ( Argentina ).- 23.- Augusto Patricio Mateos ( Argentina - Chaco ) 24.- Maria Alejandra Bury ( Argentina - Chaco ) 25.- Claudio Alexis Agnesio ( Argentina - Chaco ) 26.- Cesar Abel Falcon(Argentina-Chaco) 27-MARIANA GOMEZ MARTINEZ 28-SILVIA CLAUDIA GIMENEZ 29-NELIDA BEATRIZ MARTINEZ 30-MARIA ESTHER URSU 31- NATHIA JUDKEVICH ( Argentina ) 32-MARINA JUDKEVICH ( Argentina ) 33-MARIANA JUDKEVICH (Aregentina) 34- Bogado Espinoza, Lorena Abi ( Argentina ) 35- Ortiz, Natalia Muriel ( Argentina ) 36- Marcelo Rodrigues de Rezende (Sorocaba-Brasil) 37- Thais Chenchi Santana (Sorocaba-Brasil) 38- Lilian Yoshie Kato ( Sorocaba - Brasil) 39 - DIOGO CRISTO ( Sorocaba - Pindorama - Gaya ) 40 - DANILO GOMES ( Sorocaba - Cidade de Mentiras) 41- Tiago Holtz Guerreiro (Sorocaba- Brasil) 42 - Laura Nunes Garcia Vieira ( Sorocaba - Brasil) 43 - Anderson Schmitt Junkes (Jandira - Brasil) 44 - Eronides Santos Filho (Jandira - Brasil) 45 - Suzana Lopes Ribeiro ( Jandira - Brasil ) 46 - Paulo Henrique Ferreira (Cotia/SP Brasil) 47 - Andr? 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Brasil) 59- Ruth Cristina Serafim (S?o Paulo - Brasil) 60- Thiago Silva (S?o Paulo - Brasil) 61 - Cristiano S. de Moraes (Rio de Janeiro - Brasil) 62 - Kelly Lopes Dias (S?o Paulo - Brasil) 63 - F?bio Ferreira / S?o Paulo - Brasil 64- F?bio Araujo / S?o paulo - Brasil 65- Marcia Stevaux/ S?o Paulo - Brasil 66 - D?bora Gisele Ferraz - Brasil 67- Andrea Alexandre de Carvalho 68 - Adilson dos Santos Pinto (Cruzeiro SP) 69 - Francisco ReZende (Lorena-SP) 70- Mislane Souza Prates( S?o Paulo-Brasil) 71 - Janderson Dutra (Rio de Janeiro-RJ - Brasil) 72 - CEC?LIA SANTOS (S?O PAULO) ? BRASIL 73- K?TIA I. SANTOS ( S?O PAULO ) - BRASIL 74- Maria L Lima - (Rol?ndia - Brasil) 75 ? Marilise G.Z. Solle (Rol?ndia-Brasil) 76- Luis Fernando Silva de Almeida (Rol?ndia Pr- Brasil) 77- Adriana Amaral de Souza (Rol?ndia Pr - Brasil) 78 ? Carlos Alberto Ferreira do Amaral (Rol?ndia PR ? Brasil) 79 - Lilian Carla de Souza Gonzalez ( Londrina - Pr. - Brasil) 80 ? Ailton Valdivino da Silva - (Uberl?ndia ? MG - Brasil) 81 - Heliza Piosiadlo (Uberl?ndia - MG ? Brasil 82 - Patr?cia Cordeiro ( Joa?aba-SC-Brasil) 83 - Danielle Argenton (Herval D' Oeste - SC - Brasil) 84 - Valdirene Soares ( Joa?aba - SC - BRASIL ) 85 - Luiz S?rgio Bell? - Joa?aba SC Brasil 86- Eduardo Wieser -SC- Brasil 87- Julio Pancera ( Navegantes , SC - Brasil) 88- Fredi Goede ( Pomerode , SC Brasil) 89 ? Mario L.Fanton 90 - Val?rio Littig ( Curitiba - Brasil ) 100-cassia cavalheiro 101 - Paulo Terumitsu Ishii [ Curitiba - Paran? - Brasil] 102- Caroline Niro ( Curitiba - Paran? - Brasil 103-Alexandre Batista(Londres-Inlaterra) 104-udson bergues de almeida 105 - In?s Calazans, Alemanha 106 - Anabela Martins - Portugal 107 - Luisa Sequeira - Silves / PORTUGAL 108 - Alzira Rodrigues - Silves / Portugal 109 - Cremilde Ribeiro - A. de P?ra / Portugal 110 - Augusto Miguens - Elvas / Portugal 111 - Nat?lia miguens - Elvas / Portugal 112 - Manuela Santos - Carcavelos / Portugal 113 - Carla Santos - Oeiras / Portugal 114 - Maria Carlos Barreto de Carvalho - Carcavelos / Portugal 115 - Eliete Mendes - Lisboa / Portugal 116 - Concei??o Oliveira - Lisboa / Portugal 117 - Mariana Domingues - Portugal 118 - Joana Murtinha - Portugal 119 - Filipa Almeida - Portugal 120 - Iolanda Fontes - South Africa 121 - Kalen Viljoen - South Africa 122 ? Wendy Golding ? South Africa 123 ? Inge Strugnell ? Botswana 124 ? Philippa Lee - Botswana 125 - Ilse Swart 126 - Miche de beer 127 - Celeste Smit 128 ? Jeneane Fourie 129. Stefnie de Beer (SA) Human beings ? How can we call ourselves that ! 130 Corn? van Staden 131 Anna-Mari? van Staden 132. Sheralee Scott ( South Africa ) 133 Bev Hindmarch ( South Africa ) 134. Ian Pardy (SA) 135. Dominic Porter (SA) 136. Carl Bennett (SA) Sick Bastards!! 137 Dieter Rossler South Africa uncivilised idiots 138. Vigie Naidoo, Johannesburg South Africa (how far western man??) 139. Rodney Reddy S.A. --- lily-livered, sure they'l never dare try this with some tiger or bull sharks 140. Mira Naidoo, Johannesburg South Africa (shameful specimens called humans) 141. Ro cc o Steffannelli, Bari Italy (senseless killing) 142. Christian Hoffer, Mank Austria (Neanderthals!)? 143. Sarah Caine (SA) 144. Lorraine Caine (SA) 145. Elaine Caine (Sa) 146. Lorraine Isaac (SA) 147. Ronnie Isaac(SA) 148. Angelique Mason(SA) 149. Alysha Isaac (SA) 150. Mary Joe Emde (SA) 151. Nalisha Gangadien SA) 152. Charlene Gangadien (SA) 153. Cordelia Soobramoney 154. Nicholas Soobramoney 155. Gabriela Pillay 156. Sarah Pillay 157. Jaeden Chetty 158. Sam Chetty 159. Dean Prinsloo 160. Nicole Pillay 161. Janine Geldenhys 162. Noeleen Pillay 163. Vigie Naidoo, Johannesburg South Africa (Nordic barbarism!! - Climate Change?- go figure?) 164. Colette Boyd 165. Tanya Scheffel 166. Rob Armstrong 167. Megan Adriaanzen ? Jhb S.A. This is the most appallingly, disgusting thing I have ever seen!!! 168. Gareth Adriaanzen 169. Aldorette Swanepoel 170. Steve Maree ? Durban , South Africa 171. Karen Robjant ? and they are supposed to come from a civilised country ? very sick people 172. Clive Varcoe - Durban South Africa - I am extremely saddend by what i have seen and read. Stop the slaughter!!!! 173. Cyndi Nel - Durban South Africa 174.Justin Pattison - Durban South Africa 175. Sharon Yuill - JHB South Africa 176 Angela Arkle Jhb South Africa 177 Paul Grutter Umzumbe South africa 178 Desiree Grutter Umzumbe South Africa 179 Peter L. Moolman 180 Rentia Cronje 181 Tertia Moolman 182 Suneed ? India 183 Jashvant A. Darji - India 184 Gaurav Bhavsar - India 185 PRAVAL CHAKRAVARTY - INDIA 186 Abhijeet R - INDIA 187 Priti G -INDIA 188 Sachin SWAMI ? INDIA 189 Rohan Chitnis - INDIA 190 Shivaji Kavade - INDIA 191 Gauri Kavade(Pawale) - INDIA 192 Ridin Dinesh - INDIA 193 B.S.Shukla - Bangkok - Thailand 194. Daryl Pereira - India (91-9334644646) 195.Trevor Bosco Braganza 196 Ramona D?Souza 197 Patrick Dsouza ? Bangalore - India 198 Agnelo Pereira 199 Lucas Pereira 200 Lucilda.Rodrigues 201.Manjunath Poojary 202 R.SRINIVASA RAO - INDIA 203 N.S.RAMA RAO - INDIA 204 Monish Chaterji ? India 205. Aniza C. 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Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 88777 bytes Desc: not available URL: From franklinm3 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 05:49:55 2010 From: franklinm3 at yahoo.com (Francis Njuguna) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 02:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Word for the Day Message-ID: <875906.4999.qm@web52804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> "When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so that they might go to anoint Jesus' body. Very early on the first day of the week, just after sunrise, they were on their way to the tomb and they asked each other, "Who will roll the stone away from the entrance of the tomb?" Mark 16:1-8 These two women wanted to get access to Christ's dead body. To them it was 'precious'. But the stone stood in their way - or so they thought. That was their worry. But when they got there, a wonderful surprise awaited them. The stone had been rolled away to give way to something more precious - the risen Lord! What's that precious thing you want but are worried you can't get? Stop worrying about the 'stone' in the way; focus on the risen Lord who is able to give you something even more precious. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tbnfamilymediakenya+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.co.ke/group/tbnfamilymediakenya?hl=en?hl=en -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He have offered himself to hep in raising my children. I am a saved woman What do i do now? Do i take or refuse his offer? -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mathewsogutu at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 07:01:34 2010 From: mathewsogutu at gmail.com (Mathews) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 14:01:34 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] USE EQUITY BANK ATMs In-Reply-To: <617709.93986.qm@web27406.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <37064.14287.qm@web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <876928.89527.qm@web52303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <8d5f47a1003300122ode21039j596a6ee674aa6120@mail.gmail.com> <829757.53297.qm@web54205.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <8d5f47a1003310700j5ff16d8bgbee56cf615c675aa@mail.gmail.com> <617709.93986.qm@web27406.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: @Paul, Thank you! At least I can see you understand what I have been talking about. Matt. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:19 PM, paul mathaiya wrote: > these goes for those who are discrediting the bank.why are we so quick to > raise alarms, kindly consult the bank if you have any issues and am sure you > will be assisted. No systems are perfect or ideal in the world including > human beings and whenever a problem arises, there are channels that we can > use but not what this string is generating now.Are you saying that there is > nothing that equity has done that we Kenyans can be proud of.? > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [Mathews] > > *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Wed, 31 March, 2010 17:38:40 > > *Subject:* Re: [YP_Ke] USE EQUITY BANK ATMs > > *Please do not Misquote me.* > > All am saying we should make it a habit of address issues with the Bank. Am > sure most of the cases here if any do not warrant discussion - Initial > thread to the mail..read like this "DO NOT USE EQUITY BANKS ATM" If this > cases was raised with banks the bank is at fault or nothing has been done > then I guess we have all the reason to taint equity's name. > > As I said I have had issues too but equity have been ready to address them > because they listen. It is not about MATHEWS the "Lucky one" its about > following procedures for getting help. Sorry to say many have no clue in > dealing with issues we raise temperatures unnecessarily lets address issues > objectively by looking at both sides.i.e. CUSTOMER and BANK (EQUITY). > > Matt. > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:00 PM, elizabeth maina < > elizabethmaish54 at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Mathew please understand other problem. So what do you expect people to do >> when they loose cash after working harder to get.Fine we shall move but >> remember Today is me 2moro is you. >> >> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:49 PM, [Mathews] wrote: >> >>> Guys, >>> >>> These are normal day to day issues we have to embrase. >>> >>> No system is 100% perfect, if you feel equity is not good for you then >>> just move let the others continue. After all the grass will never be greener >>> on the other end its a matter of choice. Do not taint the name of equity >>> over issues that can be squared out. >>> >>> It is a matter of choice Wewe ni member ama wewe sio member WIN -WIN >>> situation. >>> >>> Matt. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Andrew Egala wrote: >>> >>>> I has a nasty experience on 8th feb, at dohnolm atm, i went to withdraw >>>> 500 bob, it never come out, i tried 400 it never, i went to Nort Airport >>>> road where i got to transact, on checking my mini-statement 900 was >>>> deducted, i went back, to donholm branch,complained filled a form, only 400 >>>> was reverte, my efforts tohave 500 reimbursed are in jeorpady, i always told >>>> that they need to look at the photos,at one time the photos come blurred. >>>> >>>> worried member >>>> Egala >>>> 0722-571322 >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Catherine Gachahi < >>>> catherinegachahi at yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Last year around December, i went to an Equity ATM to with draw >>>>> money to pay for my sacco contributions. But i was shocked when i found out >>>>> that one of the 1K notes were fake! It not only delayed my payment but also >>>>> made me very scared that all my salo would go like that! So i took a step to >>>>> call the Marketing Manager to report my case and he told me to go to the >>>>> bank to report the matter( i had already done this) but i also wondered, >>>>> kwani he is not in the bank! I was a loyal member but not any more. Now i am >>>>> in an international bank, not the best also, but atleast, it does not give >>>>> me fake notes. Imagine if i ended up in a police cell coz of dealing with >>>>> fake currency, would they come to rescue me? Never again! Whatever people >>>>> say, i will not go back. This was not the first disappointment coz there >>>>> were other things like too many queues, too many processes, unkind tellers, >>>>> signature issues and finding the atms not working when i need to withdraw >>>>> money. So this was like the last straw, they need to clean up their act or >>>>> they will loose customers like they have already. My friends are >>>>> also leaving.... >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* elizabeth maina >>>>> >>>>> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com >>>>> *Sent:* Tue, March 30, 2010 11:22:30 AM >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [YP_Ke] USE EQUITY BANK ATMs >>>>> >>>>> I am happy Equity have assisted so many people. but am also >>>>> disappointed by some workers. There is some who are stealing money from >>>>> customers accounts. Am victim i have lost over 30k within two months i dont >>>>> know who took the money and why???????????? am still working on that problem >>>>> so that they can establish who logged on the system the days statements >>>>> indicated money was withdrawn. >>>>> >>>>> I dont know how Mr Boniface Muriithi will comment about this. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Boni wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> FIRST AND FORE MOST USE EQUITY BANK ATMs >>>>>> >>>>>> Kindly Mr. Sirengo Maurice >>>>>> >>>>>> Explain to me how this could have happened and if it did kindly not >>>>>> clearly and categorically that Equity numbers are posted on all the ATM >>>>>> lobbys and they are 24hrs up and running actually being maned. And if it did >>>>>> happen remember that Equity highly relys on Safaricoms network for the >>>>>> Mpesa/ Credit transactions and at no point did yesterday, did the systems at >>>>>> Equity fail or be out of order so dont use harsh words against Equity Kindy >>>>>> find out what the issue is about and next time call directly to this number >>>>>> >>>>>> 0711026233 (Equity 24hrs Direct ICT Solution Centre Line)(It a hunter >>>>>> line (do I say), that has over 10 lines connected and manned 24hrs). >>>>>> >>>>>> Anybody who has a challnge getting anything at Equity I welcome the >>>>>> challnge to help you sort out your issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh by the mpesa code is 286 286 >>>>>> >>>>>> Boniface Muriithi >>>>>> ICT Solution Centre >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- On *Wed, 3/24/10, goim wekeas * wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: goim wekeas >>>>>> Subject: [YP_Ke] DO NOT USE EQUITY BANK ATMs >>>>>> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com >>>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 12:19 AM >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> DO NOT USE EQUITY BANK ATMS TO ACCESS MPESA SERVICE UNLESS YOU WANT TO >>>>>> BE DISAPPOINTED. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yesternight was very disappointed when I could get my cash once >>>>>> going through all relevant procedures required to wihtdraw mpesa money >>>>>> through Equity ATMs-but alas no cash and yet my mpesa account is already >>>>>> deducted! >>>>>> >>>>>> Guess what there was no help anywhere! >>>>>> >>>>>> Sirengo Maurice >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 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Ogutu >>> ICT Consultant >>> P.O.Box 3337 00100 >>> Nairobi >>> Cell: >>> 254-723-714 000 >>> Alt E-mail:- mathewsogutu at yahoo.com >>> >>> -- >>> Countdown----TODAY. >>> >>> >>> Hi YP in Mombasa, >>> >>> Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >>> >>> Venue - Sumerlink hotel >>> Date - 31st march 2010 >>> Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >>> Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated >>> with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >>> >>> Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >>> >>> -- >>> Best Regards >>> Josephine Kamanthe >>> Tel: +254 723 736 086 >>> >> >> -- >> Countdown----TODAY. >> >> >> Hi YP in Mombasa, >> >> Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >> >> Venue - Sumerlink hotel >> Date - 31st march 2010 >> Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >> Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated >> with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >> >> Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >> >> -- >> Best Regards >> Josephine Kamanthe >> Tel: +254 723 736 086 >> > > > > -- > ============================= > Mathews O. Ogutu > ICT Consultant > P.O.Box 3337 00100 > Nairobi > Cell: > 254-723-714 000 > Alt E-mail:- mathewsogutu at yahoo.com > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > -- ============================= Mathews O. Ogutu ICT Consultant P.O.Box 3337 00100 Nairobi Cell: 254-723-714 000 Alt E-mail:- mathewsogutu at yahoo.com -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jekambi at daystar.ac.ke Thu Apr 1 06:19:01 2010 From: jekambi at daystar.ac.ke (jekambi) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:19:01 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Sharia Law is Retrogressive, Archaic and Inhuman In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4bb4822c.1267f10a.2cdb.ffffb062SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> We may not see these Sheria Laws but our children to come. Just like, the government then(Kenyatta's) time never saw the current issues to have allowed the Sultan to obtain the costal strip. I then imagine that Nigeria never saw the issue they are facing come, but the current generation. Split the STATE AND RELIGION. _____ From: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com [mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:27 AM To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com; Harrison Mumia N Subject: [YP_Ke] Sharia Law is Retrogressive, Archaic and Inhuman Guys, we all know the Sharia law has some very stringent laws, even punitive. Some even inhuman. In Nigeria, and Somali, they apply these laws to the latter. In practice, religious fanatics are selectively using sharia law to oppress the poor and women. For example, because the sharia law stipulates the amputation of the arms of those who stole, a Fulani cattle rearer in Nigeria had his hand amputated and, subsequently, bled to death. Sharia forbids prostitution and adultery. They will stone to death or behead adulterers. To avoid tempting men, women are required to cover their faces in public places. Male students are required to seat in the front rows of classrooms while female students sit in the back rows. Later, boys and girls will be required to attend separate schools. Men and women must use separate buses. Women are forbidden from playing soccer. Motorcyclists are arrested and jailed for carrying female passengers. Since soccer, motorcycles and buses were not invented at the time the Koran was written, religious fanatics are obviously using Islam as a pretext for oppressing women. They have ordered all unmarried ladies to find a husband or lose their employments with the state government while they allow unmarried men to keep their jobs. Anybody caught drinking will be publicly flogged. They can award only men with beards government contracts. Who crafted these laws and towards what end? Do they apply in our day and age? -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content and is believed to be clean. _____ This e-mail was scanned for viruses using BitDefender This e-mail was scanned for viruses using BitDefender -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! 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Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From williekariuki at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 07:32:32 2010 From: williekariuki at yahoo.com (Wilson kariuki) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 06:32:32 CDT Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Ocampo gets a go ahead from ICC Message-ID: <373106.65510.qm@smtp123-mob.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Again maurice this is not a political social site and that goes for you too josiah.... -----Original Message----- Date: Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:54:24 am To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com From: "maurice oduor" Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Ocampo gets a go ahead from ICC Ogalo, I believe that you have not looked into this whole thing fairly. Raila Amolo does not in any way belong in this. Courage, Maurice ________________________________ From: josiah ogalo To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 4:42:32 AM Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Ocampo gets a go ahead from ICC Joshua, This issue deserves our due attention and careful handling as it may result into some level of tribal hatred! I thank the media for handling it maturely yesterday, they were categorical that Ocampo will use both KNCHR and Waki list as basis for interigating the suspects but The Hague is suppossed to carry out its own independent investigations. It is very evident that the chief suspects are now very quiet, only to say that they are innocent until proven guilty. I hope this will not degenerate into incitement by the suspects who are politicians to their communities! I feel that His Excellency Hon E. Mwa Kibaki and His Excellency, Right Hon Raila A. should not be missing in the lists as well as Kivuitu! Basically the whole parliament should be investigated, even me and members of YP forum for the role you played in furthering the PEV in Kenya! Regards Josiah On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:42 PM, wrote: > People will just hide like Kabuga >Sent from my BlackBerry? ________________________________ >From: Odhiambo Washington > >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:21:30 +0300 >To: >Cc: mlalahoi >Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Ocampo gets a go ahead from ICC > > > > >On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Shadrack Kirunga wrote: > >>> >> >> >> >>The long awaited decision from the ICC judges is out: Ocampo can go ahead and investigate the perpetrators of the post election violence. This is likely to cause a huge reconfiguration of Kenya's political arena. Tungoje tuone!! >> >> >> > > >Does this mean he can "arrest" me now? Or what does "investigate" entail? Sorry, the Kenyan way is different than the Hague way so the later confuses me. If it was the kenyan way, some folks would be locked up to "assist Police with investigations":-) >-- >Best regards, >Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >Nairobi,KE >+254733744121/+254722743223 >________________________ >"If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." >> > -- Lucky Dube > > >-- >>Countdown----TODAY. >> > >>Hi YP in Mombasa, >> >>Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >> >>Venue - Sumerlink hotel >>Date - 31st march 2010 >>Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >>Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >> >>Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >> >>-- >>Best Regards >>Josephine Kamanthe >>Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > >-- >>Countdown----TODAY. >> > >>Hi YP in Mombasa, >> >>Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >> >>Venue - Sumerlink hotel >>Date - 31st march 2010 >>Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >>Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >> >>Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >> >>-- >>Best Regards >>Josephine Kamanthe >>Tel: +254 723 736 086 > -- Josiah Onyango Mobile: +254 735 312678 -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! 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Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 From situmanyongesa at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 07:34:28 2010 From: situmanyongesa at gmail.com (joseph nyongesa) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 14:34:28 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Brooklyn is hunting for a HUBBY....... In-Reply-To: References: <486674.28039.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <918505679-1270037340-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-346948263-@bda618.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: I should add that brooklyn is very very beautiful beautiful... dont ask me questions please, woie. But even if you ask, since i cannot control the asking, I will control the responding by a standard one liner: No comment. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Kuria-Mwangi wrote: > Maurice, > I had assumed you are MBA (married but available). 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Come, network & grow professionally. >> >> -- >> Best Regards >> Josephine Kamanthe >> Tel: +254 723 736 086 >> >> -- >> Countdown----TODAY. >> >> >> Hi YP in Mombasa, >> >> Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >> >> Venue - Sumerlink hotel >> Date - 31st march 2010 >> Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >> Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated >> with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >> >> Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >> >> -- >> Best Regards >> Josephine Kamanthe >> Tel: +254 723 736 086 >> > > > > -- > http://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.com > http://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From random.kenya at googlemail.com Thu Apr 1 07:35:25 2010 From: random.kenya at googlemail.com (Random Notes) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 14:35:25 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts In-Reply-To: <755051.99863.qm@web56704.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <755051.99863.qm@web56704.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: My take This issue has not been debated in sobriety and therefore most people who debate it come with an agenda. Christians approach this issue with an anti-Muslim bias because the Islamic faith is a competitor for converts not because it is right or wrong. I agree with Kennedy that all religions must be treated equally and if it were possible the constitution should have avoided religion or Kadhi's courts or mention of god or gods or any other such supernatural beings.In my understanding the arguments in favour of Kadhi's courts are simple. 1. *The Argument from Culture* - Our constitution and dispute resolution system is inherited intact from the western civilisations and the systems of family law, marriage and inheritance are based on the western (christian?) perspective. They do not allow for the eastern (Arabic/Persian) perspective of these issues. A simple test would be the stance on monogamy Vs polygamy. If you are of the western persuasion you prefer monogamy and if you are of eastern persuasion you prefer polygamy (let's leave the African view point out for now as it is not homogeneous enough for this debate). If you were a Muslim and had to resolve a dispute between yourself and spouses that was to go to court you would naturally be more comfortable with a mediator who understood your view point and would view with trepidation a mediator who had an anti-polygamy bias. Hence, if you are of the eastern viewpoint you need your disputes resolved by a court that understands the eastern viewpoint. Hence the Kadhi's courts. *2. Argument from History: - *Quite simply this country was constituted on the understanding that certain rights and privileges were to be guaranteed to certain groups of people as *a condition *for their joining and being part of the country. If we feel that these conditions are no longer tenable and wish to revise them then we are free to do so provided we also understand that it would require us to re-constitute the country. In short the Christian fundamentalists can have their way if they understand that they must bifurcate the country on religious basis (like the India-Pakistan affair). >From the arguments above you can see that there is a lot riding on this issue, many Muslims avoid saying it but in reality the Kadhi's courts is not a religious issue it is a culture and identity issue of a large constituency (especially for most people in Coast and North Eastern). It is unfortunately not easily negotiated. If it is to go then we need to renegotiate whether Kenya is to remain as one country. My advise to the anti-Kadhi courts - the acceptance of kadhi's courts is a choice between a harmless evil (it is undesirable but not a threat to your individual faith or your freedom or your constitutional rights) and reconstitution of this country (maybe even cessation). The continued clamour to have it expunged threatens the existence of Kenya as one nation undivided. Just Random Notes On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:31 PM, kennedy waweru wrote: > Just a genuine and honest question to my friends muslims. We will all > vote in the referendum and the constitution is all about making equal > representation for all Kenyans. I have a few queries that I'd honestly like > to hear a few answers to. Please, Let us not throw hate words at each other, > please > > If the kadhi's courts were not in the constitution, how would that affect a > muslim from practicing their faith? Is there something that specifically > asks for their inclusion? I am asking this since then I'd see no reason why > any specific religion should be treated different from the others. I think > of "njuri ncheke" which is not ingrained in the constitution yet those who > align themselves to it practice without any problem and very effectively. > Why include kadhi's court in the constitution? > It can't be under the disguis of minority since hindu's are fewer than > muslims yet they still practice comfortably. What is the difference between > kenyan muslims and those in tanzania who live without kadhi's courts > ingrained in the constitution? > > Historical reasons? Is that why? > > Kind Regards, > Ken > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolkorir at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 07:51:11 2010 From: carolkorir at yahoo.com (Carol Korir) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 04:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] Fw: [YP_Ke] My Marrying! Message-ID: <864672.1675.qm@web113312.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Congrats dear,i still remind you tht every good gift comes fr GOD and surely we can bless God for using the one who had this idea and decided to explore it as we celbrate you too.God bless yp ? It has been more than 1/2 years since i joined this forum and i thank you all for having been my social friends. For that one year...i was was able to meet my chosen one.....in this forum...don't ask me who...and from the sweet happenings that have been going on between us...we finally decided to settle down as man and wife...Yes...thanx to the starter of this forum... Am finally going to have my one and only...limited by shares.... For those who are still eying each other...this forum can work marvelous...were it not for this forum..i still would be single NB...My better half is a notable name on this forum...Feel free to guess who the angle is....am gona invite you all to our planned wedding due in a few weeks time... 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In-Reply-To: <738162.59008.qm@web112612.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <738162.59008.qm@web112612.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Papa Likondi is my guess On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Paula wrote: > Mheshimiwa,......Isnt today April Fools day ? > > --- On *Thu, 4/1/10, Mheshimiwa... * wrote: > > > From: Mheshimiwa... > Subject: [YP_Ke] My Marrying! > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com, mlalahoi at googlegroups.com > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 8:18 AM > > > It has been more than 1/2 years since i joined this forum and i thank you > all for having been my social friends. > For that one year...i was was able to meet my chosen one.....in this > forum...don't ask me who...and from the sweet happenings that have been > going on between us...we finally decided to settle down as man and > wife...Yes...thanx to the starter of this forum... > > Am finally going to have my one and only...limited by shares.... > For those who are still eying each other...this forum can work > marvelous...were it not for this forum..i still would be single > > NB...My better half is a notable name on this forum...Feel free to guess > who the angle is....am gona invite you all to our planned wedding due in a > few weeks time... > > > Mheshimiwa----Josh.... > P.O Box 33506-00600, > Nairobi. > Mobile:0725-844589 > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! 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Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 44088 bytes Desc: image0011.jpg URL: From alinoor.moulid at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 08:34:06 2010 From: alinoor.moulid at gmail.com (Alinoor Moulid) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 15:34:06 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts In-Reply-To: <805557.23723.qm@web51004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <805557.23723.qm@web51004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: To All Anti-Kadhi Courts, I am a muslim and am proud believer. Whether you like it or not, the court would be in the constitution. It was before you were born, it will be when you are dead! Period! Or by the way, Go and ask the historians the essence of Kadhi courts in Kenya. Then you can understand why you are using Mombassa port to offload your cargo from the world. No ill heart! On 1 April 2010 14:56, Doreen Mutyota wrote: > > I am glad i will be able to vote a no. > > Reasons. > > 1. Why is nobody giving a rulling to the case against Kadhis court.. Six > years down the line. > > 2. Why should the state fund for a religious orgaisation. > > Its clear and there is no doubt that this is more than just that. I am > glad NCCK is taking this head on. VOTING YES IS BOWING DOWN TO ALLAH.. AS > FOR ME AND MY HOUSE WE WILL WORSHIP THE LIVING GOD. > > > > > *Ndinda Mutyota* > " Do not doubt in darkness what the Lord told you in the light" > > > --- On *Thu, 4/1/10, Sally Malinda * wrote: > > > From: Sally Malinda > > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 4:01 AM > > > > > Well, am very ready to continue 'shouting' if this is what is going to save > us from religious anarchy to evolve soon or later if we start giving one > religion precedence in a constitution meant to treat all religions as > equals!!!! > > > Christians will shoot the draft down. Period! > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Odhiambo Washington > > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Sally Malinda >> > wrote: >> >>> I say NO to Kadhis courts. Here is my argument: >>> >>> A story is told of how a 'good Samaritan' sheltered a camel that was >>> being rained on. He allowed it to shelter its head, but the camel slowly by >>> slowly pushed the rest of its body in the house! and getting out was a >>> disaster! >>> >>> >> That happens even without having Muslims/Islam! A fellow Christian would >> easily do that to you. How many Christians have had their lands grabbed by >> their own brothers/sisters/fellow Christians. Your story has no bearing to >> the Kadhis courts. >> >> >>> >>> Somalia, Sudan, Nigeria, should be a classic example of this tale. Also, >>> I would like to ask all Christian's arguing that Kadhi courts do not affect >>> them - HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE FAMOUS ABUJA DECLARATION? It's agenda is to >>> Islamise Africa by 2020. >>> >> >> And I ask: So what? If Muslims want to Islamise Africa, they can go right >> ahead. Africa is not Kenya alone. >> >> >>> How do you think they intend to do that? Are you gonna wait to find a >>> Mosque erected outside your house to realise how serious this issue is? >>> >> >> We already have Mosques in our neighborhoods, don't we? How do you think >> the Muslims feel with all the "churches" mushrooming in their neighborhoods? >> Stop looking at just one side!:-) >> >> >> >>> Are you aware that they have an agenda to push for a Muslim President? >>> >> >> Well, haven't they been ruled by Christian Presidents as well? Or even >> Hindu/Jewish Presidents???? >> >> >> >>> Do you know why they are hell crazy buying property right-left and >>> center? >>> >> >> Because the system is condoning it. Period. They are not grabbing, but >> buying. >> >> >> >>> did you recently see a story in news when a section of Muslims were >>> calling for the autonomy of Mombasa as a protectorate? Have you not seen >>> that word 'protectorate' in the current draft in relation to Muslim issues? >>> There is also the clause in Bill of Rights applicable to all but exempting >>> 'people professing Muslim faith' WHY....WHY..WHY.......wake up people and >>> see the catch in all these 'seemingly harmless' tell- tell signs of an >>> agenda not so harmless. >>> >> >> Please show us where this is? Which page of the draft? And what does it >> have to do with the Kadhis courts? >> >> >>> >>> If you argue they are a minority and need to be protected, what should we >>> say of Hindu? Traditionists? aetheists? should they also not be given >>> religious courts? >>> >> >> You lost focus of the subject! Kadhis courts have nothing to do with >> minority tribes/races/groups. >> >> >> >>> I may not be a student of former President Moi in many ways, but once he >>> told us to be like Giraffes ' See Far!' It is time we wake up and see far >>> regarding Kadhi courts. Do you want Kenya to be divided on religious lines >>> 20 years from now? If yes, vote for the draft, if not, lets press for the >>> right thing, equality of all religions. >>> >>> Let me also remind you that the recent Al Faisal saga should have been a >>> wake up call to those who cannot see the games being played by Muslims >>> behind the scenes. Let them not think Christians are asleep. >>> >>> >> >> Sally, sorry to say, but I personally feel you just came out shouting, not >> reasoning on the subject that is. >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." >> -- Lucky Dube >> -- >> Countdown----TODAY. >> >> >> Hi YP in Mombasa, >> >> Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >> >> Venue - Sumerlink hotel >> Date - 31st march 2010 >> Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >> Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated >> with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >> >> Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >> >> -- >> Best Regards >> Josephine Kamanthe >> Tel: +254 723 736 086 >> > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mathewsogutu at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 09:02:29 2010 From: mathewsogutu at gmail.com (Mathews) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:02:29 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Easter Greetings Message-ID: Dear YPs' I greet you all. Pray for your country whether we need the new constitution or not, lets encourage each other to embrace love, peace and humility. Happy Easter and may the season be a blessing to you and yours! Mbarikiwe sana! *On a light note:* Jesus said he will come like a thief ( No one knows the time or the hour). I encourage you not to kill all the thieves since we might just wait for so long for Jesus coming back! But make sure that your lanterns are ready for him lest you be locked out of the party. Am out of here cheers and see you next week. Dkt.Mathayo -- ============================= Mathews O. Ogutu ICT Consultant P.O.Box 3337 00100 Nairobi Cell: 254-723-714 000 Alt E-mail:- mathewsogutu at yahoo.com -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! 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Mpesa is giving banks a run and they are rushing to join in before they completely lose out. They started 3G in 2007 paid licence 25 million USD to CCK and billions more to put up the network and today they are over 3 million users and counting. The competition is wanting. Yu has only 1% of the market and they are using Zain network which may not last since Zain has been sold to Bhartel. Bhartel is the chief rival to Essar the parent owner of Yu in India and with their acrimony i don't see them allowing co sharing. they can be switched off anytime the final takeover comes along. Lastly none of the others have even paid for 3G licence, before they do that and take 2 years putting the network safcom will be in 4G. Fiber networks depends on how far you are in the line and the no of potential customers in your area otherwise none of this company will agree to go out of the way n put in your home or office unless they intended to. wi-fi is up n down unreliable, satellite link expensive so the need for quick, wireless, big bandwidth and service without much contraption will do for me. thats 4G. Tim On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:43 PM, amenya gibson wrote: > I will like to bring to attention to all investors in Safaricom to be > careful with Safaricom management > The idea of bring in 4G network is very noble but they need to know > that Kenyan market is not that well endowed with enough disposable > income > Yu is quicly gaining large share market and so when Safaricom thinks > by investing in 4G network it help it grow revenue i doubt that > We have fibre optics which hopeful will bring rates down and many > Kenyans will prefer that . > Yes 4G is a great plan but at whose expense? > > Let Joseph leave Safaricom honourably rather than lauv\ching very > ambitious projects that will wipe all profits in safaricom balance > sheet > > > -- > Thanks > Gibson Amenya > Enigma Consultants Kenya Limited > NHC Building,3rd Flr > P.O Box 10017-00200,Nairobi > Email: gibson.amenya at enigma.or.ke > Email:info at enigma.or.ke > For Audit,Taxation and Business Advisory Services > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jekambi at daystar.ac.ke Thu Apr 1 09:12:58 2010 From: jekambi at daystar.ac.ke (jekambi) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:12:58 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts {Disarmed} In-Reply-To: <805557.23723.qm@web51004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4bb49c38.0b67f10a.4e52.ffffb6e8SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com> The case here is not whether the state funds the courts or not. Muslims are looking at a bigger picture, not whether it will or not be. If it will be, they will move on to strategies. If it is removed, there will be issues raised if not chaos. But because they are the minority, the strategy is, the govt is maginalising us, we are being destroyed etc. Something we don't hear from the Forest group, Hindus etc. But I am also voting no because, I desire equality of the human race. I am also voting no because NO ONE IS TELLING US THE TRUTH. It is that, it has been there, it is harmless, it deals with Muslim and the same faith, etc. I am voting no because the sitting govt. appears to hide important information which they know but don't want me to know. Eg. Why is it that the former president allowed the inclusion then. Is there any writeup. I will vote no because of fear, as I look at Nigeria, Somali and Sudan. I will vote no, no, no because of ALSO PERSON HIDDEN INFORMATION. NO. Ekambi _____ From: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com [mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doreen Mutyota Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:57 PM To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts {Disarmed} I am glad i will be able to vote a no. Reasons. 1. Why is nobody giving a rulling to the case against Kadhis court.. Six years down the line. 2. Why should the state fund for a religious orgaisation. Its clear and there is no doubt that this is more than just that. I am glad NCCK is taking this head on. VOTING YES IS BOWING DOWN TO ALLAH.. AS FOR ME AND MY HOUSE WE WILL WORSHIP THE LIVING GOD. Ndinda Mutyota " Do not doubt in darkness what the Lord told you in the light" --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Sally Malinda wrote: From: Sally Malinda Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 4:01 AM Well, am very ready to continue 'shouting' if this is what is going to save us from religious anarchy to evolve soon or later if we start giving one religion precedence in a constitution meant to treat all religions as equals!!!! Christians will shoot the draft down. Period! On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Odhiambo Washington < MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com" claiming to be odhiambo at gmail.com> wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Sally Malinda < MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com" claiming to be swmalinda at gmail.com> wrote: I say NO to Kadhis courts. Here is my argument: A story is told of how a 'good Samaritan' sheltered a camel that was being rained on. He allowed it to shelter its head, but the camel slowly by slowly pushed the rest of its body in the house! and getting out was a disaster! That happens even without having Muslims/Islam! A fellow Christian would easily do that to you. How many Christians have had their lands grabbed by their own brothers/sisters/fellow Christians. Your story has no bearing to the Kadhis courts. Somalia, Sudan, Nigeria, should be a classic example of this tale. Also, I would like to ask all Christian's arguing that Kadhi courts do not affect them - HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE FAMOUS ABUJA DECLARATION? It's agenda is to Islamise Africa by 2020. And I ask: So what? If Muslims want to Islamise Africa, they can go right ahead. Africa is not Kenya alone. How do you think they intend to do that? Are you gonna wait to find a Mosque erected outside your house to realise how serious this issue is? We already have Mosques in our neighborhoods, don't we? How do you think the Muslims feel with all the "churches" mushrooming in their neighborhoods? Stop looking at just one side!:-) Are you aware that they have an agenda to push for a Muslim President? Well, haven't they been ruled by Christian Presidents as well? Or even Hindu/Jewish Presidents???? Do you know why they are hell crazy buying property right-left and center? Because the system is condoning it. Period. They are not grabbing, but buying. did you recently see a story in news when a section of Muslims were calling for the autonomy of Mombasa as a protectorate? Have you not seen that word 'protectorate' in the current draft in relation to Muslim issues? There is also the clause in Bill of Rights applicable to all but exempting 'people professing Muslim faith' WHY....WHY..WHY.......wake up people and see the catch in all these 'seemingly harmless' tell- tell signs of an agenda not so harmless. Please show us where this is? Which page of the draft? And what does it have to do with the Kadhis courts? If you argue they are a minority and need to be protected, what should we say of Hindu? Traditionists? aetheists? should they also not be given religious courts? You lost focus of the subject! Kadhis courts have nothing to do with minority tribes/races/groups. I may not be a student of former President Moi in many ways, but once he told us to be like Giraffes ' See Far!' It is time we wake up and see far regarding Kadhi courts. Do you want Kenya to be divided on religious lines 20 years from now? If yes, vote for the draft, if not, lets press for the right thing, equality of all religions. Let me also remind you that the recent Al Faisal saga should have been a wake up call to those who cannot see the games being played by Muslims behind the scenes. Let them not think Christians are asleep. Sally, sorry to say, but I personally feel you just came out shouting, not reasoning on the subject that is. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content and is believed to be clean. _____ This e-mail was scanned for viruses using BitDefender This e-mail was scanned for viruses using BitDefender -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! 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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:25:52 -0700 From: prcanb at yahoo.com Subject: [YP_Ke] Greetings from Bonyunyu,Nyamira To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Greetings from Bonyunyu,Nyamira.We arrived safely at Bonyunyu.Thanks for your prayers.At 10:00 AM,Thursday morning,April 1st,2010 Mama's last journey on earth will start.Then,her body will be removed from Nyamira District Hospital Mortuary. She will lay at her home at Bonyunyu awaiting burial tomorrow,Friday,April 2nd,2010. Things are challenging over here but we continue to rely on the Lord Jesus who has promised to supply all our needs.Please continue to pray for us. Our cell phone number here is 0710-485087 Blessings. Pr Birai -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". 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URL: From denyutu at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 10:30:28 2010 From: denyutu at gmail.com (Dan Nyutu) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 17:30:28 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] April Fools Day - Were You Pranked? - I was! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gichuru, Me-en! Dont make me believe i lost some cash today morning. I helped out a friend who needed to go to hospital but was broke. Just hoping it wasnt a prank too. Dan On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Gichuru wrote: > Yes I was. I am still pinching myself to believe. I have been in denial, I > want to believe it was a dream. But it was not. It happened. And it happened > so fast. In a flash, and I was pranked, duped and left for dead. I could not > imagine it had just happened to me. Why me?, oh well, the day is ending and > looking back, I want to laugh at myself so hard. > > The announcer in the radio station I was listening to in the jam kept on > hammering the point, "today is April fools day". Then in the news on the > same station, they gave this news item about how some Kenyan players are > going for trials at Arsenal. I almost shouted in the car, "go tell that to > the mountains or be smarter next time". Along the corridors in the office, > colleagues kept shouting, "April fools day!" as if someone had paid them to > remind them, lest they were pranked. > > I arrive in my desk and as I settle down, my phone rings. It is a message. > It is from a YP (name witheld). "Please send me some credit, i am in a jam > and want to make some calls". I checked my balance. I had credit. I scrolled > to Safaricom menu, to Sambaza and sent this dear friend some credit, lest > there's an emergency and the blame is heaped on me later. The good Christian > I am even spent some more money. I followed the sambaza transaction with a > message, "I hope that helps". > > The reply came almost immediately. It had to, there was loose credit to > spare! It was clear and to the point, *"yes, it will, thanks. April fools > day".* I went to the cafeteria for a cup of coffee. > > -- > Gichuru > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > -- Daniel Nyutu Strategy Consultant Strategic Leadership Center International Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100 Nairobi, Kenya. 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URL: From kipjsang at yahoo.com Thu Apr 1 10:47:59 2010 From: kipjsang at yahoo.com (sang kip) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:47:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - Be sane! In-Reply-To: <432686.33559.qm@web52308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <8684.84140.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4BB4C478.6B23.006C.1@anu.ac.ke> <432686.33559.qm@web52308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <312426.72799.qm@web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MUIGAI: One Emilio Reclusive Kibaki had himself declared the winner of 2007 election and got sworn in darkness.He then appointed his own tribe to all key government positions. The big-eyed Karua expected to be appointed deputy PM but when it never happened she resigned as a minister and she is trying to endear himself to baba. Even babies know Kibaki never won and the sane have no arguments about that. ________________________________ From: RENOLDS CHEPTUMO To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 9:26:23 AM Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - "ODM Bullied their way to power" Muigai, What happened was that Kibaki stole the votes and swore himself in at night, and after that people lost lives and property,?that is what went wrong if you never knew. I do not understand why people want to run away from the truth when we still have IDPs, why do you want it to be past tense when its not yet over? Cheptumo. ________________________________ From: musa muigai To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 4:47:40 PM Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - "ODM Bullied their way to power" Dear all, Other than voting whoever you voted, i am sure we cannot tell exactly what happened there after.All i know is something went wrong somewhere period. Lets avoid unnecessary talks,that is past tense lets work towards building a better tomorrow. Ok my dear Kenyans? God bless. Moses On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Shadrack Kirunga wrote: Guys, this is the wrong place for this debate because all of us have secondary information. From what we are seeing in the petitions, there was massive rigging in the elections from all sides. We simply cant tell who won, including the MPs who sit in parliament today. Can we leave this debate and move on please? > >>>> Emillio Karega 4/1/2010 3:08 PM >>> > >Harry, >Facts are facts. Kibaki won the election according to the Constitution and Laws of Kenya. Any other claim is bogus, emotional and delusional. Karua has been Karua; she has stuck to facts and as someone said "facts are sacred." >why did some members of ODM claim that Raila NEVER won the Presidential Election? > > >On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:08 PM, isaiah githinji wrote: > >Harry, >>Just to get a balanced view on this issue, please educate me. >>1. Was the allegation from Isaac Ruto in a public rally that ODM never won the election true? >>2. What were the recommendations and report of Kriegler commission. >> >>3. There were areas that reported over 90% voter turn out. Do you believe in over 90% turnout in an election? >> >> >>--- On Thu, 4/1/10, jane maurine gati wrote: >> >> >>>From: jane maurine gati >>>Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - "ODM Bullied their way to power" >>>To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com >>>Cc: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com, "Harrison Mumia N" >>>Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 12:09 AM >>> >>> >>>Harry, >>>"Wembe ni ule ule " >>> >>> >>>On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Harry wrote: >>> >>>Dear All, >>>>Fortunately for where i work, there is a TV on 6th floor and i got a chance to go to the TV room and catch up with Parliamentary Proceedings of yesterday. >>>> >>>> >>>>One thing that captured my attention is when Isaac Ruto, the fiery Chepalungu MP stood up to state that PNU stole the elections. This was during the debate on devolution, tabled by Orengo. >>>> >>>> >>>>Well, just to update you, and it was also shown on KTN prime at 9, Martha Karua stood on a point of order and asked the chair whether it was in order for the Chepalungu MP to suggest this when he had said that Kibaki won the elections in a public rally. She also said that ODM bullied their way to power. >>>> >>>> >>>>Has Martha Karua really changed? She still believes PNU won fair and Square? She still feels we needed to go to court? After Justice Evans Gicheru swore in the president? Has she really changed since resigning as Justice Minister? >>>> >>>> >>>>I doubt!! >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE >>>> >>>>VACANCIES: http://www.myafricancareer.net/ >>>>http://www.facebook.com/myafricancareer >>>> >>>>FREE CLASSIFIEDS ADS: http://bit.ly/aZbpFV >>>> >>>>TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR >>>> >>>>SHOP ONLINE AND GET DOOR DELIVERY: http://bit.ly/cwzi78 >>>> >>>>You are subscribed to the Google Groups "MlalaHoi" group. >>>>To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com >>>>For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mlalahoi?hl=en >>>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Jane Maurine >>>+254725729020 >>>-- >>>Countdown----TODAY. >>> >>> >>>Hi YP in Mombasa, >>> >>>Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >>> >>>Venue - Sumerlink hotel >>>Date - 31st march 2010 >>>Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >>>Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >>> >>>Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >>> >>>-- >>>Best Regards >>>Josephine Kamanthe >>>Tel: +254 723 736 086 >>> >>-- >>Countdown----TODAY. >> >> >>Hi YP in Mombasa, >> >>Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >> >>Venue - Sumerlink hotel >>Date - 31st march 2010 >>Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >>Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >> >>Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >> >>-- >>Best Regards >>Josephine Kamanthe >>Tel: +254 723 736 086 >> >-- >Countdown----TODAY. >? > >Hi YP in Mombasa, >? >Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >? >Venue - Sumerlink hotel >Date - 31st march 2010 >Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >? >Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >? >-- >Best Regards >Josephine Kamanthe >Tel: +254 723 736 086 > >-- >Countdown----TODAY. >? > >Hi YP in Mombasa, >? >Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >? >Venue - Sumerlink hotel >Date - 31st march 2010 >Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >? >Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >? >-- >Best Regards >Josephine Kamanthe >Tel: +254 723 736 086 > -- Countdown----TODAY. ? Hi YP in Mombasa, ? Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) ? Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". ? Come with FRIENDS!!!! 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URL: From george at sidarec.or.ke Thu Apr 1 10:57:54 2010 From: george at sidarec.or.ke (George Onyango) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:57:54 -0700 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] HELP Steve Odindo References: <157509.10194.qm@web51502.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <698F0F164DCA4387A8C548F6A41A4C22@sidarec> Thanks Tony. Let me know how to go about it. I can send in something small. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Gitonga" To: Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:34 AM Subject: [YP_Ke] HELP Steve Odindo I kindly ask this forum to support Steven a student at JKUAT TAITA TAVETA CAMPUS Registration number JTC-SC2610162/2009 COURSE -Bsc Mathematics and Computer science his cellphone number is 0711371550 About Steve He is an orphan and he has been paying his school fees from selling of ground nuts. Steve was brought up in the slums of Babadogo he went to an informal secondary school in Babadogo.After he was enrolled in campus the youth of Babadogo fundraised for him they were able to raise 50,000 Steven has been having difficult in purchasing basic things at campus like soaps, meals and even clothing. He is a very bright boy --- On Mon, 2/15/10, charleshunja at yahoo.com wrote: > From: charleshunja at yahoo.com > Subject: Re: Re: [YP_Ke] RAILA MUST RESIGN!!!!!!! > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 4:40 AM > Ongeri must resign. > And Karega too. But Raila should also take responsibility of > hi actions. Let's not forget that the audit at the > ministry of Education was ordered by those heading the same > ministry. It wasn't ordered by Raila.There is > a saying which goes like "if you want to hide > something, then hide it in the open".We know > the importers of the were not qualified and not even > initially applied/tendered for the import. But a > sub-committee chaired by Raila sneaked it in. All the other > qualified and listed companies were kicked > out.Let's be honest with all this > cases..Sent from my BlackBerry?From: > Olita Reuben > Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:04:20 -0800 > (PST)To: > Subject: > Fw: Re: [YP_Ke] RAILA MUST > RESIGN!!!!!!!I am prompted to react to those who > want Raila to walk the talk and resign over the deeds of his > staff at PM's office and other ministers over the maize > scandal. Indeed Raila is vested with the task of supervising > Ministries. Most of those who are of the opinion that the PM > should step aside are forgetting that he is below President > Kibaki in the hierachy, meaning that he is supposed to be > supervised by the President. In this case if Raila has to > resign Kibaki should also follow suit. In any case it's > the PM's office which instituted the forensic audit on > the maize scam to confirm that the PM wanted the truth > unearthed in the whole saga. Can you take poison when you > know its consequences? Guys let's save the future of our > children by calling for the resignation of the two > professors in the education sector. Uhuru Kenyatta is on > record saying the government was > ready to refund Sh232m that is alleged to have been > embezzled! Did US and UK offer these UPE funds to be > embezzled and the government offers to refund the same from > taxpayers coffers without arresting the perpetrators? God > save this country. > > --- On Wed, 2/10/10, David ochwangi > wrote: > > From: David ochwangi > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] RAILA MUST RESIGN!!!!!!! > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Cc: modhiambos at yahoo.com, chemurwok at gmail.com > Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 6:47 AM > > NOT NECESSARILY! Raila > resigning or the President/Raila disengaging from the > coalition does not mean Kenya goes to elections. Far from > the truth. The Accord is very clear on this guys: that this > very nightmare arrangement ends when either party disengages > or at the end of the tenth parliament. NOWHERE does it > mention elections after the fact, nowhere! I say we just do > away with it now, sooner rather than later, it simply is not > working! > > --- On Wed, 2/10/10, Millicent Odhiambo > wrote: > > > From: Millicent Odhiambo > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] RAILA MUST RESIGN!!!!!!! > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 4:16 AM > > > > > > > > Chemurwok, > > Raila resigns today, the coalition collapses and we go > for elections. > > Are we ready? My opinion not yet. Lets have our > systems in order. Half of Kenyans today dont have their > voters cards. > > Let Raila hang on in there. > > Regards > > Millicent Odhiambo, Executive > Officer. > Mombasa and Coast Tourist Association > Moi Avenue & Agakhan Road, P.O. Box > 99766(80107),MOMBASA, KENYA > Phone: +254.(41) 2225428 | Cell: +254. 722475796 > Email:modhiambos at yahoo.com / mcta at africaonline.co.ke. > Website: www.kenyacoast.net > The Voice of Authority for Kenya Coast Tourism > > > > > > > From: > sagongonyi chemurwok > To: > youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Sent: Wed, > February 10, 2010 10:19:10 AM > Subject: Re: > [YP_Ke] RAILA MUST RESIGN!!!!!!! > > Lee, i am my own man. The views of RV MPs are simply their > views. I speak for myself the way i see things. My problem > is this, if the Accord does not allow any of these > principals to fire appointees of his opponent, what happens > when the other team goes on looting? Is it ethical to run > business with such characters? how will you be charged at > the end of the day? where do we draw the boundary if by the > end of the day you still sit in the same cabinet meetings? > my take is that Raila should threaten to resign and go a > head to do so so that the looting is paralysed since > the government will collapse (as per the Accord). At that > point, we shall squarely and fairly apportion blame to > Kibaki. We shall be proud of Raila for taking a bold step > that bears results. As it is now, it is just talk and mere > talk. There is need to go back to putting in place the right > policies so that these guys do not go on looting with > impunity. > Now since the maize scandal is back, i would like Raila to > sack Rutto since the Accord gives him power to do so. He > should act on all those mentioned from the ODM side by the > PWC report. At least they need to step aside so that KACA > moves in to do proper investigations. If he does not do that > we shall conclude that he is either not being sincere when > he asks Ongeri to resign or he does not have the requisite > power to sack. If he tries and Kibaki blocks him, he will > need to come out and declare it in public so that we rally > behind him. We shall also conclude that the accord > does not give him the > real power and teeth to bite and he could be just another > senior minister. If that is the scenario, i do not see what > he is still doing in this gvt. He should resign as a matter > of principle and do so urgently. > > > > > > On 2/9/10, Lee Makwiny > wrote: > Chemurwok, > > I dont know how you look at thing. But if you ever read the > accord, the power to hire and fire is shared 50-50. In > simple term, what that mean is that Raila can only hire/fire > Orengo, Ruto, Kajwang, Nyongo Kosgey, Elmi, Ngilu etc. > Kabaki on the other hand can fire/hire Ongeri, Kimunya, > Kiraitu, Mwakere etc. > > The other thing that came out openly is that Raila chosea > very good forum for this. For your information, Raila told > Kibaki during a meeting on corruption attended by ministers > and PS. Where else was the best opportunity than here. Now > that most of you have always tried to lump Raila and Kibaki, > Raila tried his best to show you they operate in different > bedroom, though they pay the same rent. > > Now, this Sagongonyi, you have reminded me of what i heard > some MPs from RV say jana. Ati Raila is > using > the fight against corruption to win votes. Whats the deal > with that. Personally, that the best way to win votes. The > same MPS said that Raila was using MAU eviction to win some > environmental awards. In short, RAILA IS DOING THE RIGHT > THING. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:46 PM, > sagongonyi chemurwok > wrote: > > I have a similar view with Shadrack, who > is the boss here? Ongeri and Karega are junior to the PM and > he has authority to suspend them as the supervisor of gvt > business. This is not about hate/love for Raila as some are > trying to portray here. It is about policy and the process > of how government business is conducted. Did Raila discuss > this issue with the president before he brought it up in > public in the presence of the president? War against > corruption are not won through public declarations. The way > i see it is that Raila is trying to pass the buck to the > president; it is like saying to the public it wasn't me. > Kiraitu and kimunya came back to office even after being > pressured to quit gvt. What the PM should do is push for > policies that require a minister to step down in case > his/her ministry is adversely mentioned (which > should > be replicated in other gvt departments). May be an Act of > parliament would do. He can also bring it up in cabinet > meetings and tell the president that these guys have to go. > I do not see how his public utterances will help this > situation if he does not push for measures of accountability > and responsibility by his ministers. He has the power and > means to stamp his authority. When clear rules of engagment > are set and Kibaki still refuses to abide by them, Raila > will have a reason to quit the government. That is the time > we shall be able to separate the two in terms of action and > upholding of values that defines good governance. He is part > of this gvt and whatever sins are committed when he is still > inside, he cannot say it wasn't me. What stops me from > asking Raila to resign coz he has no control over his > junior, Ongeri? I have never heard of a situation where you > cannot sack your junior when he cannot perform to your > expectations. The situation is > becoming more embarrasing to Raila because the public will > ask questions of who is in charge. I thought we had two > principals running this country. > > > > > > > On 2/9/10, shadrack > wrote: > > > > > > Raila should resign for three(3) reasons: > 1. As a Prime Minister, he is the boss of all > ministers, so when he is forced to beg/bully/coerce them in > public to resign, he shows he has no control over his > subordinates; > 2. As a principal, he is deemed to be a co-appointing > authority for Ministers. So how do u beg your appointees to > resign. Can't you suspend them? > 3. Thirdly, Raila has said he recommended to the > President that Ongeri should be sacked, and the President > has done nothing. SO, IF YOUR PARTNER CAN NO LONGER > LISTEN TO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY BUSINESS lying to us that you > are the Prime Minister/Principal. Just resign so we know > Kibaki has reneged on the National Accord and we take steps > to deal with him (in accordance with the law, of > course) > > NB// When Raila was mentioned in the maize scandal, he > sanctioned PWC to do a forensic audit while he remained in > office. Do we expect a fair forensic audit? > > > --- On Mon, 2/8/10, WINFRED NYAMBURA > wrote: > > > From: WINFRED NYAMBURA > Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: RAILA PUSH ON WITH ONGERI/MUTAHI > RESIGNATION > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 10:19 PM > > > > > I know this will bring criticism from all corners, but > if there is a leader we should be eager to vote for and who > has interest of all kenyans at heart (Poor kenyans like you > and me) is Hon. Raila A Odinga. He is the best candidate and > for sure he fights things head on. Move on Agwambo... we are > behind you. We must bring sanity in this country and free > from corruption. > > IF there is a man I envy is - AGWAMBO - you are the > man of the people- he doesnt care what you think of him; he > only does things for the interest of common mwananchi. May > you live long bwana PM. > > We should be working towards ensuring that corrupt > leaders pave way for investigation. And for Raila to speak > up during the Equity Centre - scholarship fund, that is the > best place - reason being the culprit was there. If we must > uphold integrity - I dont see why Ongeri should not pave way > for investigation. Again this is about life of innocent > Kenyans he is messing around with. So he should stop going > bak to his tribal cacoon as Kisiis also have kids in the FPE > kitty. And as such HE MUST STEP ASIDE. > > We should fight corruption from all directions - if > someone is cleared and clean they will get their jobs back, > but for now the two must pave way. > > Where is EMILIO????? does he care about his people? or > after all - hana watoto or grand children kwa FPE? people of > Kenya let us rise above petty politics and tribal cacoons. > Whether a Professor or not - one must be held accountable. > Kenya is big than Raila and Kibaki, Ongeri and Karega!!!!! > So MEN step aside..... > > If today safaricom is involved in a scandal - Mike > Joseph would voluntarily resign to pave way for > investigation, if KQ - Naikuni would also do same. 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CHARGES ARE Ksh. 1,000 PER ADVERT which you can post > 3 times. CALL/MPESA ON +254 721 663 208. > > -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 From bzibr at aol.com Thu Apr 1 11:31:38 2010 From: bzibr at aol.com (bzibr at aol.com) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:31:38 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] Kenyan Community in New JerseyUnited under KACA - Mzalendo is free at last. Message-ID: <8CC9FC78E3696AB-4DC0-A2EF@Webmail-m110.sysops.aol.com> The Kenyans in New Jersey have reason to unite and thank each other for all they do caring for each other. KACA has provided the platform for that to happen and the record is clear. We can feel the difference and see results from the current KACA team that represents the majority. Many are proud to be represented by KACA and we are not about to jump ship. This week has been a moment of truth climaxed by Mzalendo's freedom. The community under KACA worked so hard even when it was too difficult to face. Now we all see why unity is key and most of us will never give up KACA for another strange organization that never has anything to do within our community. Its time we stand up for each other and shut out those with divisive venom out to trash what works for us. We do not have the time to engage in empty rhetoric but want to show unity and work together when it counts. The Jersey City community is not divided and we have no reason to join a topless Umbrella when we are already well housed in KACA. Good luck for those trying out something else for selfish ends but the voices of many will always count on achievements and progressive movement in KACA and the community in general. Please recognize the work of KACA to the Kenyan community in New Jersey. The officials have done more work than any other office holders and he expect more. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mail at blackhistoryclub.ning.com Thu Apr 1 11:52:37 2010 From: mail at blackhistoryclub.ning.com (R. James Taylor) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 15:52:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Jambo] What Black America Can Learn from Recent Chinese History Message-ID: <19724647.564084561270137157764.JavaMail.xncore@z101239.ningops.com> R. James Taylor has sent you a message on Black History Club To reply to this message, click here: http://blackhistoryclub.ning.com/profiles/message/listInbox?xg_source=msg_mes_private Subject: What Black America Can Learn from Recent Chinese History "Please log on and view our latest blog post on what Black America Can Learn from Communist China. Please share your views. Robert" To reply to this message, click here: http://blackhistoryclub.ning.com/profiles/message/listInbox?xg_source=msg_mes_private -- To control which emails you receive on Black History Club, go to: http://blackhistoryclub.ning.com/?xgo=SAoj3708XMINLBsHa1HvU5ntRGGvaq8QZ1EvmNHZ7AjFdr-hh-ekgA&xg_source=msg_mes_private From info at umojaentertainment.com Thu Apr 1 12:34:17 2010 From: info at umojaentertainment.com (Lloyd Umoja Ent) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:34:17 -0700 Subject: [Jambo] Reggae This Good Friday April 2nd Kwenye Rio Grande Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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KACA has provided the platform for that to happen and the record is clear. We can feel the difference and see results from the current KACA team that represents the majority. Many are proud to be represented by KACA and we are not about to jump ship. In every meeting we have been hearing about belonging somewhere and that theme seems to work. This week has been a moment of truth climaxed by Mzalendo's freedom. The community under KACA worked so hard even when it was too difficult to face. Now we all see why unity is key and most of us will never give up KACA for another strange organization that never has anything to do within our community. Its time we stand up for each other and shut out those with divisive venom out to trash what works for us. We do not have the time to engage in empty rhetoric but want to show unity and work together when it counts. The Jersey City community is not divided and we have no reason to join a topless Umbrella when we are already well housed in KACA. Good luck for those trying out something else for selfish ends but the voices of many will always count on achievements and progressive movement in KACA and the community in general. Please recognize the work of KACA to the Kenyan community in New Jersey. The officials have done more work than any other office holders and he expect more. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shadmutisya at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 12:35:44 2010 From: shadmutisya at gmail.com (Shadi) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 19:35:44 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Chartered Flights to Dar esalaam Message-ID: <4bb4cb61.8502be0a.2c96.ffff90d2@mx.google.com> Try safarilink at wilson -----Original Message----- From: WINFRED NYAMBURA Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:14 To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Chartered Flights to Dar esalaam Wanjiru Try Boskovic, Phoenix, Air Kenya. For now Phoenix looks a bit cheaper than the rest. Boskys are good, have used them before, they are wide travelled thu they are slightly higher than Phoenix. I intend to Use phoenix for the first time in May..... so no experience. From: Maryann Wanjiru To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 10:08:23 AM Subject: [YP_Ke] Chartered Flights to Dar esalaam Dear All, ? Does anyone know of any Chartered flights from Nairobi OR Mombasa OR Malindi to Dar esalaam? ? Please inbox me. thanks ? Wanjiru -- Countdown----TODAY. ? Hi YP in Mombasa, ? Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) ? Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". ? Come with FRIENDS!!!! 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SO THINK TWICE. can you please stop being an assander where two > have already been joined. PRAY to GOD and he will give you your provider ,or > have you lost you faith? > --- On *Thu, 4/1/10, Roselida Opiyo * wrote: > > > From: Roselida Opiyo > > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] RE: My Boss Eying on Me. > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 4:15 AM > > > Janerose, > > > > I don?t understand this statement ?*and have already stated dated me?. ***Are > you dating or not? Who is determining that you are dating or not? > > > > Anyway ?when the student is ready the teacher will appear?. If you are > ready for the kind of man you say you want then he will appear. If you are > dating this married man/boss then the man you want will not appear; you are > not ready. And if he does appear you will not notice him because you are > busy. > > > > So now what? > > > > P.S. we cannot tell you what to do or not do, you are a grown woman and > besides you will do exactly as you want despite of our advice. Question you > should be asking *YOURSELF* is ?What do I want to do about this situation > right *NOW*?? and go for it *RESPONSIBLY*. Ohh and whatever you choose is > fine just know that they both have consequences, choose wisely? > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Anne kondo > *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Thu, April 1, 2010 1:02:30 PM > *Subject:* Re: [YP_Ke] RE: My Boss Eying on Me. > > My friend dont,The day this man will have it all,you will lose your job and > dignity.You said your saved,then why a married man.Dont cheat your God.My > friend God will give you a good man at the right time.God bless you. > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Jane Rose > > wrote: > >> *Hi YPs, >> My boss is eying on me and have already stated dated me. Am fearing him >> because he is a married and older than me. If i let him down, i might lose >> my job. Am a single mother of 2 who needs someone to assist me financially. >> He have offered himself to hep in raising my children. I am a saved woman >> What do i do now? Do i take or refuse his offer?* >> -- >> Countdown----TODAY. >> >> >> Hi YP in Mombasa, >> >> Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >> >> Venue - Sumerlink hotel >> Date - 31st march 2010 >> Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >> Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated >> with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >> >> Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >> >> -- >> Best Regards >> Josephine Kamanthe >> Tel: +254 723 736 086 >> > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by > Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From angaluki at aol.com Thu Apr 1 18:21:02 2010 From: angaluki at aol.com (angaluki at aol.com) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 18:21:02 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts In-Reply-To: <758007.41276.qm@web27202.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CCA000BF3082AE-4384-292B@webmail-m101.sysops.aol.com> People, For those of you opposed to inclusion of Kadhi's courts in our constitution, can you give us better, honest, objective reasons? I'm sick and tired of fallacies of irrelevance. What have circumstances in Iraq got to do with a Kenyan constitution? Don't we have stable, democratic predominantly Muslim countries? Are we not going to have a constitution in Kenya because there is a civil war in Czechoslovakia? Somalia, Sudan, Nigeria... How about Rwanda, Burundi, Angola, Mozambique, DRC, Bosnia, Nicaragua, Honduras, Ecuador... Where is Islam in all these? And this camel has been waiting since before 1963 to throw the owners out of the tent? For those of you seeking to sweep Kadhi's courts aside by equating them to njuri ncheke, what you don't realize is that, in fact, njuri ncheke, like all Kenyan African customary systems, is covered in the constitution under African customary law, and its rulings have the force of law (see Umira Kager -vs- Wambui Otieno for a high court ruling that defers to Luo African customs). Muslims need special accommodation in our constitution, not because they are different, but because their equivalent of njuri ncheke is not catered for under our civil law. I as a Quaker do not need special accommodation in the constitution because that constitution is based on Christian values and my needs are fully covered. Let's put religious bigotry aside, be fair, honest and objective, and engage our Muslim brothers and sisters on their need for Kadhi's courts in our constitution, rather than try decide for them on issues that most of us obviously don't understand. A. Muaka -----Original Message----- From: Steve Kimani To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Apr 1, 2010 9:43 am Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts Thanks to Sally and all who see this plain truth as it is. As much as the various sects of Christianity at times do not agree on various issues, i guess it is time they all agreed that Kadhi's Courts should not be in the constitution. And this should be the heartfelt campaign for every patriotic Kenyan even the Moslems themselves. Watch Iraq; it's "brother" against "brother", with continous unmatched human caused death records in recent history. So they say USA invaded and caused instability...? Uncalled for! But we know what was happening to the Iraqi Kurds in Husseins regime."Brother" to "brother" Somalia is another classic example. Mainly(if not fully) Islamic, but perpetually inhabitable. Where is the peace they preach. Saudi Arabia (strictly Islamic) is the modern day history in the making of slavery. In Kenya, there have been spiritual / religous leaders being on the "wanted list" by police and when some if any of their followers tried some demos, they did not go the scale the Faisal demos went. So do we get double communication from Moslem leaders? The press statements are surely different from what we see. Which leaves one wondering if there are not two ways of telling the people "the truth" - one thing to the public and the other to the followers. Kenyans, pray, pray,& vote wisely. All Kenyans need to be very watchful --- On Thu, 1/4/10, Sally Malinda wrote: From: Sally Malinda Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, 1 April, 2010, 4:46 I say NO to Kadhis courts. Here is my argument: A story is told of how a 'good Samaritan' sheltered a camel that was being rained on. He allowed it to shelter its head, but the camel slowly by slowly pushed the rest of its body in the house! and getting out was a disaster! Somalia, Sudan, Nigeria, should be a classic example of this tale. Also, I would like to ask all Christian's arguing that Kadhi courts do not affect them - HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE FAMOUS ABUJA DECLARATION? It's agenda is to Islamise Africa by 2020. How do you think they intend to do that? Are you gonna wait to find a Mosque erected outside your house to realise how serious this issue is? Are you aware that they have an agenda to push for a Muslim President? Do you know why they are hell crazy buying property right-left and center? did you recently see a story in news when a section of Muslims were calling for the autonomy of Mombasa as a protectorate? Have you not seen that word 'protectorate' in the current draft in relation to Muslim issues? There is also the clause in Bill of Rights applicable to all but exempting 'people professing Muslim faith' WHY....WHY..WHY.......wake up people and see the catch in all these 'seemingly harmless' tell- tell signs of an agenda not so harmless. If you argue they are a minority and need to be protected, what should we say of Hindu? Traditionists? aetheists? should they also not be given religious courts? I may not be a student of former President Moi in many ways, but once he told us to be like Giraffes ' See Far!' It is time we wake up and see far regarding Kadhi courts. Do you want Kenya to be divided on religious lines 20 years from now? If yes, vote for the draft, if not, lets press for the right thing, equality of all religions. Let me also remind you that the recent Al Faisal saga should have been a wake up call to those who cannot see the games being played by Muslims behind the scenes. Let them not think Christians are asleep. ALL RELIGIONS SHOULD BE TREATED EQUAL. PERIOD. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Munene M. Anne wrote: All Faith should be given the same rights From: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com [mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Githinji Sent: 01 April 2010 07:16 To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts I agree with Washington. And in any case, if the NCCK insists that they'll marshall their flock not to vote for the draft coz of that...well, they'll have lost anyway coz we'll be stuck with the current constitution that has Kadhi courts. Let's not deny our Muslim brothers and sisters what they've had for the last 45yrs and it never hurt any christian anyway! Joe --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Odhiambo Washington wrote: From: Odhiambo Washington Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 7:16 PM On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:31 PM, kennedy waweru wrote: Just a genuine and honest question to my friends muslims. We will all vote in the referendum and the constitution is all about making equal representation for all Kenyans. I have a few queries that I'd honestly like to hear a few answers to. Please, Let us not throw hate words at each other, please If the kadhi's courts were not in the constitution, how would that affect a muslim from practicing their faith? Is there something that specifically asks for their inclusion? I am asking this since then I'd see no reason why any specific religion should be treated different from the others. I think of "njuri ncheke" which is not ingrained in the constitution yet those who align themselves to it practice without any problem and very effectively. Why include kadhi's court in the constitution? It can't be under the disguis of minority since hindu's are fewer than muslims yet they still practice comfortably. What is the difference between kenyan muslims and those in tanzania who live without kadhi's courts ingrained in the constitution? @Kennedy, I am not a muslim, but I'd like to answer this question anyway. The presence of Kadhis Court in the KE constitution has never affected me in any way. How has it affected you? And IIRC, "njuri ncheke" is the Meru Council of Elders. It is not a religion. Much the same thing as the Luo Council of Elders and all the other Council of Elders. How did you end up comparing a council of elders to a religion? IMHO, Kenya will not burn just because of having the Kadhi's Courts engraved in the constitution. Kenyans have wasted so much of their energies in this subject, yet not a single non-Muslim Kenyan can tell how it negatively affected them. We should be talking about the wastage that we will incur when we elect an MP, s/he is appointed Minister, which then makes him/ger resign the parliamentary seat, and we head back to the election (by-election); We should be talking about appointments to the Civil Service having to be ratified by parliament the US style, etc. Muslims waliwafanya nini? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alice.wanjohi at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 09:08:41 2010 From: alice.wanjohi at gmail.com (Alice wanjohi) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:08:41 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Martha Kaura - "ODM Bullied their way to power" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Washington, Martha Karua is a leader and an intelligent woman.Show me another leader in parliment like Martha who fight with facts without throwing words of abuse like martha? She is one of the type and kind we want esp. women like me.Its time for women to put up our country inorder.We have taken over in business and we have seen our economy grow. So pliz do not make comments for the sake of making without any fact.There are so may who made comments what was wrong with her comments. Pliz kenyans do not despice a leader just because she a lady. On 4/1/10, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Harry wrote: > >> Dear All, >> Fortunately for where i work, there is a TV on 6th floor and i got a >> chance to go to the TV room and catch up with Parliamentary Proceedings of >> yesterday. >> >> One thing that captured my attention is when Isaac Ruto, the fiery >> Chepalungu MP stood up to state that PNU stole the elections. This was >> during the debate on devolution, tabled by Orengo. >> >> Well, just to update you, and it was also shown on KTN prime at 9, Martha >> Karua stood on a point of order and asked the chair whether it was in order >> for the Chepalungu MP to suggest this when he had said that Kibaki won the >> elections in a public rally. She also said that ODM *bullied their way to >> power.* >> >> Has Martha Karua really changed? She still believes PNU won fair and >> Square? She still feels we needed to go to court? After Justice Evans >> Gicheru swore in the president? Has she really changed since resigning as >> Justice Minister? >> >> > > @Harry, > > > I really pity Wangare Karua. She's one woman who doesn't quite understand > herself, at least politically. She fought so hard to ensure Kibaki was sworn > in as President, in darkness!!!! The same Kibaki then turns around and fails > to give a hoot to Hon. Karua. She resigns and almost heads into oblivion. > > > When history books are written, Hon. Karua's role in the infamous elections > will be there for future generations to read. I always find it a waste of > time to try and space a portion of my small brain to think about Hon. Karua. > I suggest you concentrate on other matters as well. There is so much you can > do than worry about her chameleon nature. > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." > -- Lucky Dube > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > -- Countdown----TODAY. Hi YP in Mombasa, Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com Thu Apr 1 14:21:28 2010 From: Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com (Dickens Odhiambo) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 14:21:28 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] NEWS :- History as Kenyan MPs pass Constitution Message-ID: History as Kenyan MPs pass Constitution BY ANTHONY KAGIRI Updated : 11 hours and 18 minutes ago NAIROBI, Kenya, Apr 1 - MPs made history on Thursday when they approved the Proposed Constitution via acclamation. The draft from the Committee of Experts passed without any amendments, despite earlier proposals for numerous amendments which did not sail through the House. Speaker Kenneth Marende posed the question whether to pass the draft Motion shortly after 9pm. The ayes carried the day in the acclamation vote. Parliament had extended its sittings from the normal 6.30pm to enable members conclude debate and beat the 30-day deadline set out by the law before the draft moves to the next stage - the Attorney General's chambers for publication within 30 days. Below is how debate was on a day that also saw Parliament hold an unusual sitting in the morning in order to go through a long list of proposed amendments. None of the amendments got the requisite support of 145 MPs to pass. 8.40 Kibaki tells MPs to pass the draft. Says young minds have put together the document which can be amended later if need be. Says MPs are geared to making a new constitution for Kenya. 8.30 PM Raila Odinga takes to the floor and urges MPs to vote for draft, saying Kenya has come a long way and needs to end the two-decade search. 8.25 Speaker rules simply majority needed to pass draft and 65 percent to reject it. 7.30 MPs begin haggling over whether they need a simple majority or 65 percent to pass draft. 6.40 President Kibaki enters the Chambers as MP for Othaya, accompanied by VP Kalonzo Musyoka and PM Raila Odinga. 6.25 Three amendments to introduce regions and increase counties fail to garner the 145 MPs support. 4.36 MPs Simiyu Esieli, Najib Balala, James Orengo and Kareke Mbiuki withdraw their amendments. 4.35 Igembe North MP Ntoitha M'Mithiaru withdraws his amendment 4.32 Only 70 MPs are present in the House. The amendment flops. 4.31 Sophia Abdi: We foresee some change. Should we increase the counties to 80 we need to ensure that the women are elected from all these counties. 4.30 Eldoret East MP Margaret Kamar moves an amendment to delete a clause that limits the number of women elected to the Senate to 47, one per county claiming that this could be affected if the House was to increase the counties. 4.28 Ugenya MP James Orengo withdraws two of his amendments outlining expressly the roles of Parliament and the Senate citing the mood of the House. 4.15 A Frustrated House turns to guillotine.An amendment is moved, seconded and immediately subjected to vote without debate. 4.02 Only107 MPs present. Mr Bahari's amendment flops. 3.46 Isiolo South MP Abdul Bahari moves an amendment to protect vast constituencies during the redrafting of new boundaries. 3.46 129 MPs present in the House. The amendment flops. 3.20 debate on the amendment to allow for independent candidates resumes. 3.20 Speaker calls the Motion to extend time. After the response he announces that the Ayes have it. The House to extend to 11.50pm. 3.13 Martha Karua: I support this Motion. We passed a law in this House on this process and we must take up our responsibility. 3.12 Walter Nyambati: I support this Motion. I have some amendments to make and I want to go on record that I made them. So we need to extend time. 3.10 Bonny Khalwale: I oppose. There is nothing wrong with us not being able to complete the amendments. They will just die and lapse. 3.09 Njeru Githae: The solution to this is we pass this Constitution without amendments. 3.04 Chief Whip Jakoyo Midiwo moves a procedural Motion to extend the sittings of Parliament to 11.50pm. 2.30 Parliament resumes business. MPs first dispensing with Question Time before embarking on final leg of constitutional debate. President Mwai Kibaki expected to attend the afternoon session. 12.30 The House adjourns its sitting to resume at 2.30pm. 12.20 Only 75 MPs are present in the House. The amendment falls. 12.13 Moses Wetangula: Ordinarily I would not oppose Dr Esieli but I will oppose. Corruption is not a permanent feature I this country, we cannot legislate it in the Constitution like our great grandchildren will behave like we do today. 12.10 Otieno Kajwang: I cannot accept to legislate corruption in the Constitution like it will always be with us. 12.09 Shakeel Shabbir: Corruption has been there since time in memorial. It was there during the time of Adam and Eve; it will be there in the future. We must entrench this commission in the Constitution. 12.08 Esieli Simiyu moves an amendment to entrench the Ethics and Anti Corruption Commission in the Constitution. 12.06 Isaac Ruto withdraws another amendment on land. 12.05 Two amendments by Amos Kimunya and Orwa Ojode are dropped as the two are not in the House to move them. 12.04 66 MPs present and the amendmetn flops. 12.00 Margaret Kamar (Temporary Speaker): let us go for division. 11.58 Bifoli Wakoli: Madam Speaker, we cannot set the minimum size of land one can own. 11.55 Ekwe Ethuro: The Committee of Experts is setting us against each other. (If) we pass this we are headed for the clash of 2005 that precipitated the defeat of the draft Constitution. 11.52 William Ruto: we are setting the defeat of this draft in the referendum if we do not amend some of these things. We had agreed on most of these amendments in Naivasha as the Parliament Select Committee. 11.50 Isaac Ruto moves an amendment that seeks to delete a provision that requires Parliament to set the maximum size of land an individual can own in Kenya. 11.29 Shakilla Abdalla: I am very passionate on land but given the mood of the House I withdraw my proposed amendment on land. 11.28 Isaac Ruto: This House does not look serious in making any amendment. I withdraw my proposed amendment on land. 11.16 Isaac Ruto moves another amendment on the Land chapter to remove the words ethnicity in this chapter. 11.15 Only 77 MPs are present in the House. The amendment flops. 11.11 Kareke Mbiuki: Mr Speaker the parks are all demarcated and nobody is going to go and touch them. Let them be taken over by the counties. 11.10 Hassan Noor: There are those arguing that land is emotive but I don't think that holds. Let this land be managed by the counties that we are devolving power and resources to. 11.09 Adan Duale: Mr Speaker I withdraw and apologize. 11.08 James Kamau: Land issues in this country as is sensitive. We remember we have fought in this country and I don't think communities are ready to manage our land. 11.07 Speaker: Member for you will have to withdraw that statement because it is unparliamentarily. 11.06 Adan Duale: I represent a community that owns 22 percent of Kenya we must be allowed to manage our land. Those who do not have land give us a chance to manage our land please shut up! Debate on the emotive Land Chapter continues. 10.45 William Ruto: The over concentration of power and resource in the Central government has led to abuse especially in areas where it has no idea of the sensitivities involved. 10.42 Bonny Khalwale: Land is very emotive and this will make people who live in areas they were not born insecure. 10.41 Adan Duale: if we are devolving resources then land is a very important resource to be devolved. 10.40 Isaac Ruto: It is meaningless to have devolution then say all the land is managed from Nairobi by the central government and a new juggernaut called the National Land Commission. 10.40 Chepalungu MP Isaac Ruto moves an amendment that Public land shall vest, be held and administered on their behalf by the county government. 10.39 There are only 77 MPs in the Chambers, Ole Metito's amendment fails. 10.34 - Marakwet East MP Jebii Kilimo: Clans in this country have an attachment to some of the forests may be for bee keeping and others like the Kaya community do traditional rites. Taking this resource to the Central government is not right. 10.32 Eldoret north MP William Ruto: If we want to give meaning to devolution we must not at the same time deprive them of the means to create sufficient resources. 10.28 Loitoktok MP Katoo Ole Metito moves an amendment to place government game reserves, national parks, government animal sanctuaries, and specially protected areas under the management of counties. He argues this would empower the counties financially to operate. 10.27 Kajiado Central MP Joseph Nkaissery's amendments to the Article on land aimed at deleting the provision of equitable ownership of land flops as he is not in the House to move his amendment. 10.26 Mr Ruto suffers his second defeat in the House as his amendment on land is defeated. 10.15 Mr Marende rules that although the concern by Mr Kosgey was legitimate, members have the right to get in and out of the chambers as they so wish. 10.14 Mr Kosgey alerts the Speaker that MPs are moving out of the Chambers during voting to frustrate amendments. 10.13 Mr Nanok's amendment flops. Only 65 MPs present. 10.00 Turkana South MP Joseph Nanok moves an amendment to the article on family to state that one can only marry "an adult" to outlaw child marriages. 9.58 Tinderet MP Henry Kosgey withdraws his amendment. 9.57 Mr Mwathi withdraws his fourth amendment. 9.57 The amendment by Chepalungu MP Isaac Ruto seeking to obligate the government to compensate community land owners before reposing it fails after only 58 MPs are present. 9.27 Gachoka MP Mutava Musyimi moves an amendment that seeks to delete a clause that states that a person shall not be denied work or access to any property based on their belief. 9.20 - Limuru MP moves an amendment to delete a section that gives a person the right not to have their person, home or property searched; their possessions seized flops. 9.17 - The Speaker announces that the amendment by Mr Mithika has flopped. Only 28 MPs are present in the House. 9.08 - Debate on the proposed amendment to delete the affirmative action clause on elective posts resumes. It requires that the government ensures that not more than two thirds of the posts are from one gender. More MPs oppose it led by Mohammed Affey, Gideon and Cyrus Ruteere claiming that it would discriminate women. 9.00 Speaker Kenneth Marende enters the chambers and leads the House in prayer. Read more: http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Kenyanews/History-as-Kenyan-MPs-pass-Constit ution-7977.html#ixzz0jsY4ZgbT Under Creative Commons License: Attribution Non-Commercial No Derivatives From kjmwangi at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 00:29:12 2010 From: kjmwangi at gmail.com (Kuria-Mwangi) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 00:29:12 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Brooklyn is hunting for a HUBBY....... In-Reply-To: <481881872-1270162108-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-356129501-@bda618.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <486674.28039.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <918505679-1270037340-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-346948263-@bda618.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <481881872-1270162108-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-356129501-@bda618.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Maurice, I can see it is still April 1 and so will wait until are in another dateline and then we can talk about this stuff. This is big. Looks like I am the only one who has been payukering and doing nothing on these fora. I will go slow from now on but lets talk after the fools day. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:48 PM, wrote: > I have met someone on this forum someone I hope to have future with She is > such delight to talk to > > Courage > Maurice > > Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network > ------------------------------ > *From: * Kuria-Mwangi > *Date: *Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:40:57 -0400 > *To: * > *Subject: *Re: [YP_Ke] Brooklyn is hunting for a HUBBY....... > > Maurice, > I had assumed you are MBA (married but available). Let us know how the CV > went hoping that > you will not end up having a goal displacement where you will declare hata > Maurice tosha:) > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:09 AM, wrote: > >> I am already taken but I can hook her up Send us the CV >> >> Maurice >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network >> ------------------------------ >> *From: * Jectone Ndunya >> *Date: *Wed, 31 Mar 2010 03:08:31 -0700 (PDT) >> *To: *Young Professionals >> *Subject: *[YP_Ke] Brooklyn is hunting for a HUBBY....... >> >> Am marketing Brooklyn, she is looking for a hubby. kindly send to me your >> C.V. >> >> THIS SHOULD REACH ME BEFORE END OF DAY WEDNESDAY 7TH APRIL 2010 >> >> BEST OF LUCK >> >> -- >> Countdown----TODAY. >> >> >> Hi YP in Mombasa, >> >> Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >> >> Venue - Sumerlink hotel >> Date - 31st march 2010 >> Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >> Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated >> with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >> >> Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >> >> -- >> Best Regards >> Josephine Kamanthe >> Tel: +254 723 736 086 >> >> -- >> Countdown----TODAY. >> >> >> Hi YP in Mombasa, >> >> Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >> >> Venue - Sumerlink hotel >> Date - 31st march 2010 >> Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >> Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated >> with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >> >> Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >> >> -- >> Best Regards >> Josephine Kamanthe >> Tel: +254 723 736 086 >> > > > > -- > http://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.com > http://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by > Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > -- http://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.com http://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kjmwangi at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 00:50:07 2010 From: kjmwangi at gmail.com (Kuria-Mwangi) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 00:50:07 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] RE: My Boss Eying on Me. In-Reply-To: References: <749085.72077.qm@web113512.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <533715.90137.qm@web112619.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Nyongesa, Kwani they dont have professional ethics in that office. In my office, even two consenting adults cannot fagiana without getting fired. They will transfer one of you to another office so that you can continue to kufurugana without the fear of being fired if you stated that there were some chemistry going on. Now a supervising asking you to take him to bed is another thing. He is fired and they cannot argue about it. The company can be sued for big money if a lady went to bed with him and later proved that she was coerced. It is even worse when you are dating wazungu and even black women. You do a good job as we always do and the following day she comes payukering to everybody about how well endowed you and how Kenyan men are great in bed. Even those wazungu women who are married dont know how to shut up. One Kenya dude, Omogaka did it two a mzungu who was married with three white kids. He did it and the lady came to office opening her wide mouth about how he did a good job. As if that was not stupid enough, the stupid woman went to announce the good news to her husband. She was kicked out and she went to the fellows house where she had slept the previous night and refused to leave. They both lost the job and married each other, now Omogaka a proud father of three white kids and the father of kids looking for ways of ending his life. He is a survivor. There is no way I would it with an American in my office. Even the saved ones dont know when and where to give the testimony of your good work. They confess in church about it and the following day go to the office to payuker payuker. Please tell that lady to start looking for a another and when she gets one snitch on the boss. The right word would be whistleblow about his wayward way. Rose is in a dilemma, she turns down the boss and he is mean, she gives in and she had lost her dignity. It is like being seduced by your best friend's wife. You refuse, she vows to report you to her husband (ki our namesake Yusufu) and get the goods and you feel quilt for working on your best friends goodies with both being evils but getting her goods being the lesser evil since feeling the quilt and losing your friends are both evils but the quilt being the lesser evil since your friend can also kill you if he believed his wife. These are moral and ethical issues. Kuria Kuria On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:12 PM, joseph nyongesa wrote: > Take the offer my dear... > Just make sure the he makes it official that you are his second wife under > the cultural marriages act. > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:12 PM, liz maina wrote: > >> >> that is not a question you are asking, what then do you mean by you are >> saved? are you there to break people's homes so as you can gain. get to know >> it will not last as long as that woman is crying even if it is just from >> within her heart, you will not benefit from what you get from that man but >> instead you will bring a curse to yourself and to your children just because >> of that. SO THINK TWICE. can you please stop being an assander where two >> have already been joined. PRAY to GOD and he will give you your provider ,or >> have you lost you faith? >> --- On *Thu, 4/1/10, Roselida Opiyo * wrote: >> >> >> From: Roselida Opiyo >> >> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] RE: My Boss Eying on Me. >> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com >> Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 4:15 AM >> >> >> Janerose, >> >> >> >> I don?t understand this statement ?*and have already stated dated me?. ** >> *Are you dating or not? Who is determining that you are dating or not? >> >> >> >> Anyway ?when the student is ready the teacher will appear?. If you are >> ready for the kind of man you say you want then he will appear. If you are >> dating this married man/boss then the man you want will not appear; you are >> not ready. And if he does appear you will not notice him because you are >> busy. >> >> >> >> So now what? >> >> >> >> P.S. we cannot tell you what to do or not do, you are a grown woman and >> besides you will do exactly as you want despite of our advice. Question you >> should be asking *YOURSELF* is ?What do I want to do about this situation >> right *NOW*?? and go for it *RESPONSIBLY*. Ohh and whatever you choose is >> fine just know that they both have consequences, choose wisely? >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Anne kondo >> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com >> *Sent:* Thu, April 1, 2010 1:02:30 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [YP_Ke] RE: My Boss Eying on Me. >> >> My friend dont,The day this man will have it all,you will lose your job >> and dignity.You said your saved,then why a married man.Dont cheat your >> God.My friend God will give you a good man at the right time.God bless you. >> >> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Jane Rose >> > wrote: >> >>> *Hi YPs, >>> My boss is eying on me and have already stated dated me. Am fearing him >>> because he is a married and older than me. If i let him down, i might lose >>> my job. Am a single mother of 2 who needs someone to assist me financially. >>> He have offered himself to hep in raising my children. I am a saved woman >>> What do i do now? Do i take or refuse his offer?* >>> -- >>> Countdown----TODAY. >>> >>> >>> Hi YP in Mombasa, >>> >>> Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >>> >>> Venue - Sumerlink hotel >>> Date - 31st march 2010 >>> Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >>> Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated >>> with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >>> >>> Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >>> >>> -- >>> Best Regards >>> Josephine Kamanthe >>> Tel: +254 723 736 086 >>> >> >> -- >> Countdown----TODAY. >> >> >> Hi YP in Mombasa, >> >> Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >> >> Venue - Sumerlink hotel >> Date - 31st march 2010 >> Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >> Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated >> with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >> >> Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >> >> -- >> Best Regards >> Josephine Kamanthe >> Tel: +254 723 736 086 >> >> -- >> Countdown----TODAY. >> >> >> Hi YP in Mombasa, >> >> Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >> >> Venue - Sumerlink hotel >> Date - 31st march 2010 >> Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >> Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated >> with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >> >> Come with FRIENDS!!!! 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URL: From hmumia at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 00:55:17 2010 From: hmumia at gmail.com (Harry) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 05:55:17 +0100 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] I must Salute President Kibaki - He is not a PNU Person Message-ID: My Friends, I come to you with Good News. A new day is born. A new moment in the history of Kenyans. The CoE Draft Constitution has been passed by parliament and now goes to the people of Kenya for a referendum. For the first time though, i had a chance to see Mr. Kibaki, who i will now call President Kibaki, displaying a side of him which i had never thought of. This was in parliament at around 8.45 PM. Friends, and particularly my ODM friends, Kibaki is a reasonable person after-all. He is infarct in principle a good man. He is an old man who was surrounded by PNU sharks and thats how the election was stolen. But he is possibly a statesman. Maybe he has become a little bit too old. Maybe he is But he spoke like a statesman. Kibaki told parliament that the constitution can always be amended. He encouraged them to pass the draft. He thanked the Speaker for displaying leadership. I must applaud him on this. And he is an eloquent man, this Kibaki fellow. I therefore urge all of us, from today on, lets give him support for the remaining two years, as we adopt a new constitution, which will guarantee the right of Kenyans. 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URL: From alextallam at yahoo.com Fri Apr 2 01:36:49 2010 From: alextallam at yahoo.com (Alex Tallam) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 22:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] RE: My Boss Eying on Me. In-Reply-To: <953574.78248.qm@web111413.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <953574.78248.qm@web111413.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <658299.21880.qm@web57305.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Jane, Thanks for coming out, it's a decision many will rather not make. Office affairs are there and they will still be there regardless, otherwise I want to believe you chose to come out because you believe it is not right and since you are already in it, you are looking for a way out!! Now, you will receive all manner of advice, but you must realise that at the end of it all, it will be you Jane to make a decision. You say the guy has promised to help you financialy, and this is where many will easily fall to such affairs because of the skyrocketing cost of? living, but ask yourself one question, were you able to meet most of your kids needs before? if yes, then what other assistance do you need from this guy? if no, then is?that the only way to go? remember you will be going in to benefit from this boss of yours who has a family of his own and you may end up wrecking his marriage!!! and this is where you don't want to go as a christian!! As a born again christian, you should be aware that nothing is impossible with God!! and it therefore means God can provide your needs, you just have to pray and all will be ok, you don't need to be a marriage breaker for some of your needs to be met. Otherwise you will need to be bold and make a decision against your boss without fear of loosing your job, God will always stand with you whenever you make the right decisions!! Cheptumo. ? ________________________________ From: lucille kim To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 10:15:09 PM Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] RE: My Boss Eying on Me. Hi Jane, Your situation at first when i read it, i thought to myselfl, how? but after some thought, i realised you were bold enough to say it out as it is, which was brave of you and I hope since your asking for advise, u know that you really need it and offcoure your going to make necessary changes. for one, the whole situation is wrong, yes you have children and yes they have needs and yes you have needs too. Who said that if you dont give in, he will fire you?? You say you are saved, saved by what? If you know for sure the real meaning of being saved, then you wil know that you need to commit all your situations to God, sometimes things will be thick, but God will always come through, being saved means, in John 10:10 "The thief comes to steal, kill and destroy. but Jesus came that you may have life in fullness and abundantly" Remember that, when it comes to being saved, there should be no compromise whatsoever, why? because despite your situation, God will will definately see you through, you need to believe in order to receive, thats how it works in Gods economy, because what great vission you have, God will toss it beyond the situation. Remember you love your children dearly but we are also Gods children and He would never compromise any situation for us. make a stand, a decision and stand by it for in every decision you make there are consequences. 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URL: From davidmkesha at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 01:37:03 2010 From: davidmkesha at gmail.com (David Mkesha) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 08:37:03 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] NEWS:- Prepare for shock, Kalonzo tells Raila .... But Ran for Dear Life People ! .... In-Reply-To: <292713.10017.qm@web57316.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <292713.10017.qm@web57316.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: My dear Judy, Go to railways matatu terminus and take a matatu no 126 to Kiserian. There you will find masaais: Tell them this crap you are writing here. Davie On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Judy Miriga wrote: > Folks, > > It is not sweet as it sounds from Kalonzo's Mouth.......investigate where > they get > the money first.....You will be signing for your death trap....... > > People know the truth and are well enlighted, the problem is that there is > extreme > poverty in Luo Nyanza the reason why they are up for cheap political sale > deals > they will never benefit from. > > The truth is, Luos are hungry and have been pushed to poverty death-bed. > They can > easily succumb to cheap lure.....and their votes will absolutely and surely > be divided > not for good gain but out of desparacy. > > I am worried......there is need for quick sustanance so Luo Nyanza do not > fall prey, > the most ideal strategy to save Luo Nyanza is to get the Grassroot > organized for Social > Entreprenureship Agricultural cooperative program which is directly funded > to the > Community and not through the Government machinery...... > > Kalonzo definately is not a saviour to Luo Nyanza poverty.....He will cause > the community > to perish because Kalonzo behaviour and records shows he is sneaky for his > own personal > interest and gains and he has no Interest of Luo Nyanza at heart.... Check > your facts!...... > > Luos are also hated immensely because of their generousity and good > naturedness and > for their astute ability and knowledge of things........*Luo Leaders must > begin to think * > *deeper than being **in the shallow........Luo Nyanza are up for grabs and > are * > *destined for wholesome **sale. * > > *Luo Nyanza is Luhya and Kisii included, especially those along the Nile * > *and Lake **Victoria. This is the area where Libya President Muamar > Gadafi have * > *paid for and has **been technically been bought, unless the Luo Nyanza > people * > *wake up and rise up to **the occassion to save their land under unity of > purpose.* > *Otherwise, People living in **this region have no one to save them but > themselves.* > ** > *This is not hearsay, Kalonzo have been meeting with Libyan President > frequently * > *over the sale of Nyanza land and do not be hoodwinked. He has made > serious * > *fortified deals and this is part from where he has gotten his big money > to lure Luo * > *Nyanza.* > > Just a tip of an iceburg, Luo Nyanza land was already sold to Libyan and > other > leaders outside Luo Nyanza have heavy weight plan to displace Luo Nyanza so > the > land can be easily dispatched. > > We need funds to go directly to the grassroots so the Local community there > can > be self-sustained and self-reliant and be able to prosper and grow in their > God given > land. Let us protect our destiny people ! ! > > Few years ago, Kalonzo was a begger, did not have enough money to sustain > his > back-yard, he depended on hand-outs from Kenyatta, Moi, Uhuru with fringe > benefits > he scooped during Kibaki leadership......why can Luo Leaders share the > little they > have and join forces including welcoming brains to develop our Luo Nyanza, > so we are > not used by politicians for short time gain?........ > I think Luo Leaders are selfish and they dont think far, they are > short-sighted.....and > they dont care at what state our people are........ > > Lets team up and work together and put our pride aside......pride goes > before a fall.... > let us stop the idea of selfishness, thinking of yourself, your family and > close friends... > let us extend service and support to those we do not know, let us identify > potentials > and engage those potentials for our development, gains and growth. > > I am saddened.....because our people will perish for lack of utilizing the > knowledge > God gave us.......the knowledge is our weapon but we are not using it > potentially. > > We are in to a rude shock People !....... We are going to be made to > fight each other. > The scheme has already been started.......There are groups of people who > have been > heavily funded to create havoc and confusion in Nyanza before election..... > follow the > trend of things people.........so Wake Up people, Think with your Heads not > your Mouths > people ? > > Be all encouraged and work hard to unify Kenya for greater prosperity and > growth not to > get divided. > > Thanks, > > Judy Miriga > Diaspora Spokesperson > Executive Director > Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc., > USA > http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com > > > > *Kalonzo is a lier and cannot be trusted with votes from Luo Nyanza.....He > has negotiated **a deadly deal with Libyan President Gadafi......the > reason he has * > *been travelling frequently **to Mombasa Pwani as well.......Keep watch > people * > *Let the Truth be Told....It is the Truth that shall set you Free ! !*.... > US dismisses Musyoka?s claim of aid as fiction[image: Vice President > Kalonzo Musyoka (left) and US Deputy in charge of State Department Donald > Yamamoto(right) at the department's office on February 5, 2010. Photo/VPPS] > > Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka (left) and US Deputy in charge of State > Department Donald Yamamoto(right) met on February 5, 2010. Photo/VPPS > By KEVIN J KELLEY in New York Posted Saturday, February 13 2010 at 11:35 > The US State Department on Friday dismissed as ?fiction? Vice President > Kalonzo Musyoka?s recent claim that Kenya will be fast-tracked for > millions of dollars in US development aid. > Mr Musyoka said during a visit to Washington a week ago that the State > Department had agreed to help Kenya qualify for a compact with the US > government?s Millennium Challenge Corporation. > The vice president trumpeted that supposed breakthrough following his February > 6 meeting with Donald Yamamoto, the principal deputy assistant to Secretary > of State Hillary Clinton. > Mr Musyoka?s publicists contended that the State Department was rewarding > Kenya for progress made in the constitutional review process and in > implementing anti-corruption reforms. > But after checking with Mr Yamamoto on Friday, a State Department officialtold the Nation that no such assurances or affirmations were made. Mr > Musyoka?s version of what transpired at the meeting is ?fiction,? the US > official said in an unusually strong rebuke. > Mr Yamamoto had actually told the vice president that Kenya must make > further progress in controlling corruption before it can qualify for > Millennium Challenge assistance, the official said. > Kenya has failed the eligibility test for Millennium Challenge aid in each > of the past five years because it falls short on governance standards. > > *Watch the Video....* > > February 16, 2010 > *US dismisses Kalonzo claims* > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhfY7OjN2qk > > Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka has spoken out on a controversy that emerged > after his recent visit to Washington. Kalonzo was sharply rebuked by a state > department official following reports that the US had agreed to fund various > Kenyan projects after a meeting between officials of the two countries. The > Vice President now says that he was misquoted and as Robert Nagila reports > the US ambassador now says the VP was on a private visit. > > *February 06, 2010* > *What Kalonzo said ..... which turned to be a lie.....aided * > *by Ambassador Ogego to confirm the lie......* > ** > *Kalonzo in the US* > Kenya is set to benefit from millions of dollars from the Obama > administration through the millennium Challenge Account and increased > investment funding through the USAID. However, the state department insists > that reforms and war on corruption must be fast tracked. > > > December 13, 2009 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPDLTtJiOE4 > *Kenya pushes for reforms in the UN general assembly...an opening for > Kalonzo to Lobby **for his campaign money and his stomach......at the > expense of * > *selling Nyanza.........Luo Nyanza people are going to be squarters very > soon * > *because of "Have Nots" ... a state they were politically pushed so they > can * > *be compromised to give up land for dear survival........* > > Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka is drumming up support for a communiqu? > that seeks two permanent seats in the United Nations General Assembly for > Africa. Kalonzo is representing Kenya at the meeting of the committee of ten > an initiative of Libyan leader Muamar Gadaffi. The committee is pushing for > reforms at the United Nations. > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8UI6f8_6C0&feature=player_embedded > > *April 20, 2009* > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8UI6f8_6C0 > U.N. Surprise: Victim of Qaddafi Torture Confronts Libyan Chair of Durban 2 > > > > > --- On *Tue, 3/30/10, Dickens Odhiambo * wrote: > > From: Dickens Odhiambo > Subject: NEWS:- Prepare for shock.Kalonzo tells Raila > To: "'BEN ODOTTE (E-mail)'" , "'BWANA CAREY > (E-mail)'" Cbwanac at aol.com > , > Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 7:24 AM > > Breaking News > A newly released opinion poll shows that 67 per cent of Kenyans know > nothing or very little about the draft Constitution.... > > Politics > Prepare for shock, Kalonzo tells Raila [image: Vice President Kalonzo > Musyoka and Prime Minister Raila Odinga chat after meeting President Kibaki > at KICC at a previous function. Photo/CHRIS OJOW] > > Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka and Prime Minister Raila Odinga chat after > meeting President Kibaki at KICC at a previous function. Photo/CHRIS OJOW > By NATION Correspondent > Posted Monday, March 29 2010 at 21:00 > Vice-President Kalonzo Musyoka on Monday launched one of his most > scathing attacks against Prime Minister Raila Odinga. > Mr Musyoka said the PM's brand of politics had no place in present-day > Kenya. > The VP told the PM to be prepared for more shocks because once the new > constitution was passed his office would be "null and void". > Speaking in Machakos, barely two weeks after Mr Odinga toured the area, Mr > Musyoka announced that he had started his 2012 presidential campaign and his > first mission would be to liberate the people of Nyanza Province, the home > region of Mr Odinga. > His enemies, Mr Musyoka said, had mistaken his "cool" nature for cowardice. > "Raila comes to Ukambani and they call him *Ngumbau* (hero); he goes to > Central Province and Meru and they call him *Njamba* (champion); people > attending his rallies are given T-shirts bearing his portraits ... is this > not early 2012 campaigns?" the VP asked amid cheers. > "When Kalonzo goes round, he is quickly accused of early campaigns. I'm not > a coward and I am declaring now that I have started the race, I'm prepared > for it." > "I am going to Nyanza. It will be my first stop. The people there need to > be liberated from political and socio-economic bondage that has bedevilled > them for so long. I will be their saviour," Mr Musyoka said. > He told Kenyans not to trust Raila with the presidency. > Revisiting the PM's Machakos rally, the VP took issue with Mr Odinga for > using his forum to throw scorn at him. > "We were told it was a development meeting but the forum used leaders from > Ukambani to try to humiliate me in front of my people." > During the Mulu Mutisya Gardens rally, former Kibwezi MP and The > Independent Party of Kenya (Tip) leader Kalembe Ndile and ODM-K vice-chair > Peris Tobiko criticised Mr Musyoka. > Yatta MP Charles Kilonzo suggested that Water and Irrigation minister > Charity Ngilu was qualified to be a Kamba spokesman. > But on Monday Mr Musyoka said he was not interested in becoming a tribal > chief. > "I'm aiming high and the presidency is my next stop". > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Margaret Gichuki [mailto:Wams2006 at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, March 29, 2010 7:51 PM > *To:* kca_main > *Cc:* africa-oped at yahoogroups.com; NewVisionKenya at yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [africa-oped] Prepare for shock.Kalonzo tells Raila > > > http://dn.nationmed ia.com/DN/ DN/2010/03/ 30/ArticleHtmls/ 30_03_2010_ > 006_005.shtml? Mode=1 > > > *Libya ownership and leadership is blood and tears......* > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj_qR2Z-6ps > > Libya 40 Years of Blood & Tears.mov > > *asmayousef* (3 months ago) > Show Hide > *+1* > > > Marked as spam > Reply > By the way, there has never been any proof of a riot inside Abu Salim > prison. This excuse was used by Qaddafi's regime as news of the mass killing > leaked and as families of the victims received notifications of? deaths > without bodies. In addition, the prisoners we are talking about here never > faced a fair trial in a court of law. They were never allowed a due process > of law. Many were prisoners of consciouness who committed no crime but voice > an opinion contrary to that espoused by Qaddafi. > *vivadundee* (3 months ago) > Show Hide > * 0* > > > Marked as spam > Reply > good job,but I wish if he cover briefly about hanging and killing the > libyan students in uneversities and streets.over? all it was nice > presintation at least give breif knoledge to their people about our > suffering. > > > *Libyan President Muamar Gaddafi could be the reason for Migingo hijack > through Uganda.* > > ------------------------------ > > [image: The East African (Nairobi)] > *Africa*: Gadaffi Crowned 'King of Kings' > As He Seeks to Create 'Continental Govt' > > 12 October 2008 > ------------------------------ > > Nairobi ? Political pundits and academicians were last week trying to make > sense of Libyan leader Col Muammar Gaddafi's latest game plan, after he had > himself crowned "King of Kings" by a section of African traditional leaders, > sultans, sheiks and mayors from Muslim North Africa during ceremonies in > Benghazi at the end of August. > Dubbed the Forum of African Traditional Leaders, which will be meeting > every September 9 in Sirte (Gaddafi's birthplace), the event, which is also > being touted as a precursor to an African government to be launched next > year, attracted more than 500 cultural leaders. > Quoting a communiqu? issued after the event, Uganda's Muslim-leaning > newspaper, The Weekly Message, reported in its most recent edition that > Gaddafi was crowned King of Kings in recognition of his role in liberating > Africa from colonialism and his frontline role in pushing for African unity. > Among issues agreed during the forum was the creation of a government of > the African Union next year and the issuance of a single currency and > passport for the continent. > The proposed African Union government is to be formed subject to the > inclusion of sitting ministers of foreign affairs, defence, external trade, > transport and communication from AU member states. > But coming just over a year after Gaddafi's push for an African political > union headed by a president met resistance from African presidents at their > last meeting in Abuja, the maverick leader's latest adventure is being seen > as an attempt to create a parallel track that would bring him closer to his > goal of being Africa's first continental president. > The sitting also elected Gaddafi, who gave his guests gifts that included > Rado watches and African traditional garb, as the forum's chairman. > Ugandan officials were quick to underplay the development, describing it as > neutral to Uganda-Libya relations, but academicians were warning that given > the Libyan leader's past record, his newfound alliance with traditional > leaders had the potential to degenerate into a new wave of secular > fundamentalism that could be a source of instability, as ambitious cultural > leaders jostle for power with republicans. > Uganda's Junior Foreign Minister in charge of International Co-operation, > Okello Oryem, said that Gaddafi's "crowning" should have no negative impact > on the ties between the two countries because "our diplomatic relations are > determined by the level of interaction. The lower the interactions, the > lower the relationship but generally speaking, our relationship is very > cordial and at a high level," he said. > But Mwambutsya Ndebesa, a senior lecturer at Makerere University's > Department of History and Development Studies, said though Gaddafi's latest > adventure may indeed not turn out to be much of a threat, it could still > create a nuisance. > Mr Ndebesa said Gaddafi had a history of destabilising his neighbours and > as such his current actions should be viewed with some caution. > "I don't see any possibility of ideological convergence between Gaddafi and > the traditionalists, but he can still cause some trouble here and there by > whipping up the appetite of some radical traditional elements," Mr Ndebesa > said, adding that the Libyan leader had always been a contradictory figure, > a man who overthrew a monarchy but was now allying with traditionalists. > Libyan forces also supported Idi Amin's regime against Tanzanian-led > liberation forces that included President Museveni's Front for National > Salvation -- but, years later, he contributed arms to Museveni's guerrilla > campaign against Ugandan government forces. > Gaddafi's surprising love affair with monarchies was first manifested > during a 1996 visit to Uganda, when he developed an interest in the then > infant King of Toro, for whom he built a turnkey palace. > Later, he sponsored the young king and his sister's education and the duo, > accompanied by their mother, Queen Best Kemigisha, have made a number of > extended visits to Libya. > > The Toro delegation to the Benghazi meeting travelled and returned aboard a > private jet paid for by Gaddafi. > In all, 34 traditional leaders from Uganda, including two kings -- Solomon > Gafabusa Iguru of Bunyoro and Oyo Nyimba Kabamba Iguru of Toro -- attended > the Benghazi proceedings. > There was also a delegation from the Kingdom of Buganda, the Paramaount > Chiefs of Acholi and Lango in northern Uganda as well as the Emorimor of > Teso. > But cracks were already appearing in the forum even before the ink had > dried on the Benghazi protocols. > With the exception of Toro and Bunyoro, the other Ugandan cultural leaders > distanced themselves from ever endorsing the Libyan leader as some kind of > supreme African ruler. > At the meeting, the Buganda delegation went on record as telling the > gathering that it was against their culture and norms to recognise a monarch > other than their own king. > Equally, the Paramount Chiefs of Acholi and Lango were vehement in their > denials that they were party to an agreement that endorsed Gaddafi as King > of Kings. > "No, we did not do that. The Arabs might have elected him, but we did not > sign anything to make him King of Kings. > You can call the Acholi Paramount Chief and confirm this. How could we do > such a thing?" Yosum Odur Won-Nyaci, Paramount Chief of Lango, said when The > EastAfrican called him. > Acholi Paramount Chief David Onen Acana said that it appeared to have been > a calculated move to advance Gaddafi's ambitions because while most > delegations from East Africa were in Libya for the first time, their > counterparts from West and North Africa appeared to have been there on a > follow-up meeting and all what happened was symbolic. > "We were all taken by surprise. According to me, he is not really a king > in any sense. Gaddafi is pursuing a social angle to achieve his goals of > having one Africa. He wanted to expand the issues to cultural leaders to > work with politicians to speed up the unity of Africa," Acana said. > Although nobody gave it much thought at the time, Gaddafi's grandiose > scheme first came to the attention of Ugandans in early September, when he > signed off as "King of Kings" a condolence message he sent to President > Museveni upon the death of the Kyabazinga of Busoga, Henry Wako Muloki. > But the King of Kings of 2008 is the very man who overthrew King Idris I in > 1969, abolished the monarchy and proclaimed the country the Libyan Arab > Republic. > The Ugandan kings who spoke to The East African said that Gaddafi explained > to them the need for African unity and urged them to mobilise their people > to support the cause. They said Gaddafi told them that the African president > would rule for only three years. > The kings said they told Gaddafi they had no powers and that electing an > African president is a political issue that the head of states and other > politicians must decide upon. > One view is that, flush with dollars from the recent boom in oil prices, > Gaddafi has started on a new round of political adventurism. Mr Ndebesa said > the Libyan leader is reversing the process of democratisation, whereas the > African Union should be run on the principles of democracy. > The idea of supporting and using monarchs who are conservatives to pursue > his ideology raises questions as to whether he is creating a parallel > African Union structure. > Relevant Links > > - North Africa > - Libya > > Mr Ndebesa added that the possibility that any of these monarchs could > become a threat to their governments cannot be ruled out if Gaddafi's > support helps make them financially independent. > This is not the first time Gaddafi is attempting to create a unified > nation. In 1972, he proclaimed the Federation of Arab Republics, hoping to > create a pan-Arab state. > The deputy chairman of the Uganda Muslim Youth Assembly, Imam Kasozi, who > is also a lecturer at the Islamic University in Uganda, had some advice for > Gaddafi: > "If he overthrew a king, how does he now turn around and call himself King > of Kings? He wants to be in power for eternity, but it does not work like > that. > *Reported by Michael Wakabi and Halima Abdallah K* > ** > ** > *Now it is clear Migingo Hijack through Uganda is no-longer a mystery..... > * > ** > Gaddafi Visits Uganda > Daniel Kalinaki (The EastAfrican)?Libya?s President Col Muammar Gaddafi was > expected to arrive in Kampala over the weekend to close an Afro-Arab > Festival and preside over the opening of a mosque in the Ugandan capital > whose construction he has funded. > Ugandan officials said last Friday that Presidents Mwai Kibaki of Kenya, > Paul Kagame of Rwanda, Abdoulaye Wade of Senegal, Pierre Nkurunziza of > Burundi, Omar el Bashir of Sudan, Mamadou Tandja of Niger and Idriss Deby of > Chad, were also expected to attend. > > Despite the philanthropic nature of the visit, Col Gaddafi?s first visit to > Uganda in seven years underscores Libya?s growing portfolio of investments > in the region and the political and economic weight it wields and is > increasingly willing to use to acquire and defend its interests in the > region and across the continent. > > Gaddafi?s relationship with Uganda goes back several decades; he was Idi > Amin?s strongest political and military ally, and helped fund the five-year > rebellion that brought President Yoweri Museveni to power in January 1986. > During his last visit to Uganda ? on May 12, 2001, to attend Museveni?s > swearing-in ceremony ? Gaddafi, who has been in power since 1967, described > Museveni as a ?revolutionary? who should rule without having to undergo > elections. > > The Libyan leader visited again in July the same year to attend festivities > for King Oyo, the child-king of Tooro kingdom in western Uganda, and a > beneficiary of Gaddafi?s largesse. > > Gaddafi also promoted Museveni?s son, Muhoozi Kainerugaba, then a second > lieutenant, to major, a rank State House later clarified was honorary but > which Muhoozi now holds legitimately, after undergoing several courses. > > Gaddafi?s visit comes amid a relative cooling of political ties between > Tripoli and Kampala following President Museveni?s refusal to support > Gaddafi?s call for an immediate Pan-African government during last July?s > African Union Summit in Accra, Ghana, in preference for a unity model based > around regional economic blocs. Gaddafi and Wade are expected to use the > Kampala visit to rally support for their unification model ? and Libya has > the economic clout to influence political positions. > > Libyan investment in the region has soared over the past decade, funded by > record oil prices, through the Libya Africa Portfolio for Investments (LAP), > the $5 billion sovereign wealth fund set up in 2006 whose subsidiaries > include the Oil Libya Holding Company (formerly Tamoil Africa), the Libyan > Arab Company for African Investments, Afriqiyah Airlines, the LAP Green > Holding Company and various other projects and shareholdings. > > Tamoil won a bitterly disputed tender to construct the $100 million > Eldoret-Kampala oil pipeline extension, whose construction is expected to > start later in the year. LAP has also expanded into telecoms, acquiring 69 > per cent of Ugandan Telecom Ltd (the Ugandan government owns the rest of the > shares), and has paid $100 million to acquire 80 per cent of the formerly > state-owned Rwandatel. The company has pledged to invest $317 million over > the next five years to modernise the network and roll out a mobile telephony > network. > > The Libyan sovereign wealth fund owns 100 per cent of the Lake Victoria > Hotel in Entebbe, and 60 per cent of the 4-star Hotel Novotel Umubano in > Kigali, in which the Rwandan government owns 40 per cent. It also owns 60 > per cent of Tristar, a fledging company set up to export garments from > Uganda to the United States under the Africa Growth and Opportunity Act, as > well as 49 per cent of Uganda?s largest real-estate developer, the National > Housing and Construction Corporation NHCC. > > Notably, some of the Libyan investments in Uganda ? in particular UTL, > National Housing and Tristar ? were concluded under the table, without open > bidding and often involved controversial debt-for-equity swaps. > > *The EastAfrican* reported last year that a committee of the Ugandan > parliament was investigating claims that the country could have lost as much > as $30 million in a debt-for-equity swap involving NHCC due to > undervaluation of the latter. The deal involved swapping 49 per cent of the > company?s equity, valued at $20.3 million, as part-settlement of an $88 > million loan that Uganda took from Libya in 1989. The company was valued at > Ush122 billion ($72 million) in 2004 and Ush119 billion ($70 million) in > 2003, but the government used the accounts of the year 2002, when the > company?s net worth was Ush70.6 billion ($41.5 million) only ? some $30 > million less ? to negotiate the deal with the Libyans. > > The chairman of the Public Accounts Committee, Nandala Mafabi, told *The > EastAfrican *at the time that National Housing ?was sold overnight because > no due diligence was done and no adverts were seen in the press to this > effect, so the agreement is illegal.? Finance ministry officials defended > the deal and said the government would have had to pay more in interest and > penalties had the deal not been concluded then. Chris Kassami, Permanent > Secretary in the Ministry of Finance, said: ?If we did not sign that > agreement, it meant that we had to pay $188 million there and then.? > > Away from the philanthropy, Libya is increasingly seeking to use its > economic muscle to further its political and strategic interests on the > continent. In January, Reuters news agency, quoting Libya?s official news > agency Jana, said Gaddafi had threatened to divert the focus of the $5 > billion sovereign wealth fund to the Mediterranean region if Africa > ?sacrificed its future? and failed to form a common government. > > ?If Africa practised racism or wanted to sacrifice its future, Libya would > then be able to scrap its current investment in Africa and move it to the > Mediterranean region,? Gaddafi was quoted as saying before the AU summit in > Addis Ababa in February. > > In his speech, made to an audience of ?African citizens and African > leaders,? Gaddafi made it clear that Libya?s investments on the continent > are not purely philanthropic. ?This money is invested by Libya in Africa not > to be given to Africans for free, but for a return to Libyans,? he said. > > Gaddafi has not hidden his desire to give the continent?s Arabic speakers > more clout, preferably through a single unified government, and his visit to > Kampala for the Afro-Arab Youth festival and mosque-opening is telling. > > His vision of African unity is countered by the South African-led view of > the phased approach, a gradual process that Gaddafi warned in his January > speech could lead to a continental chasm along racial lines. > > He said: ?And it would be possible that the Sahara would be the dividing > line of the continent into white and black Africa, with North Africa, headed > by Libya, linking its future to Europe.? > > Libya?s investment on the continent, therefore, is as much a search for > economic returns as it is for political reward. It is not happening in a > vacuum ? South African investment on the continent has soared over the past > decade, with firms like Stanbic, MTN, Vodacom and Shoprite becoming > continental brand names. > > Nigeria, flush with oil cash, has also set up a sovereign wealth fund and > Nigerian firms have started investing in the banking and insurance sectors > in West and East Africa. > > East Africa has become the beachhead for the new contest between South > Africa and Nigeria on the one hand, and Libya on the other. The new dazzling > mosque in Old Kampala is as much, therefore, a symbol of Libya?s friendship > as it is of its determination to win the battle of minds, hearts and the > future of Africa. > > > > http://www.pambazuka.org/aumonitor/comments/1156/ > > > Posted by Hakimaon 03/17 at 11:46 AM > Next entry: India-Africa Summit > Previous entry: AU Reviews Elections > > *DONT TRUST KALONZO HE HAS RECEIVED CAMPAIGN MONEY FROM GADAFI * > *TO DELIVER LUO NYANZA TO LIBYA PRESIDENT MUAMAR GADDAFI ....Whatch > this....* > ** > Uganda: Why Gaddafi Visited Mengo Without Museveni Posted: 2008/03/27 > From: Source > > Gaddafi, with the help of the corrupt Ugandan "businessman" Habib Kagimu, > pays a surprise visit to President Museveni's "lying, arrogant" opponent, > allegedly as revenge for Museveni's lack of support for Gaddafi's "United > States of Africa" project > > > *By Ssemujju Ibrahim Nganda* > > Was the Libyan leader's > visit to Buganda Kingdom orchestrated to 'back stab' and embarrass his host, > President Museveni? There are indicators that the eccentric Col. Muammar > Gaddafi decided to visit Museveni's apparent political foes to get back at > him for not supporting the colonel's plan to form one African government > . > > The relationship between Museveni and Gaddafi has taken a nosedive since > 2005 when the former reneged on supporting the latter's campaign for one > African government . > President Museveni instead backed South African President Thabo Mbeki's view > of forming an economic union first. > > The Weekly Observer exclusively reported about this disagreement in the > story, 'Angry Gaddafi Refuses to Give Museveni $5m Campaign Money,' on > January 19, 2006. > > Since then, the relations between the two heads of state have not been the > same. > > Indeed, Gaddafi snubbed Museveni's swearing-in ceremony in May 2006 and has > turned down several invitations after that. > > Gaddafi's return to Ugandathis month was generally seen as a sign that the relations had warmed up, > but it appears Gaddafi hasn't forgiven, let alone forget. > > The Libyan leader who was in Uganda from March 16 - 20 to close the > Afro-Arab youth festival and open a mosque built with his money at Old > Kampala, unexpectedly drove to Bulange (administrative seat of Buganda) for > a 37-minute meeting with kingdom officials. > > Visiting Bulange per se was not strange because Gaddafi has shown interest > in Ugandan traditions before, particularly his friendship with the Toro > kingdom. > > What surprised observers was instead the timing of his visit, and the > likelihood that it may not have been sanctioned by his host. Museveni and > Buganda are currently not seeing eye-to-eye as a result of sharp differences > on the government's proposed amendments to the Land Act 1998. > > President Museveni says the law will stop illegal mass evictions, but > Buganda insists it's a ploy to grab the kingdom's vast land. > > It was therefore inconceivable, political observers say, for a high profile > guest of the President to call on the kingdom that is now increasingly > viewed as being hostile to the regime > . > > At first it was thought that Museveni wanted to use Gaddafi to mend his > relations with Buganda, but the fact that he arrived without any government > official , unannounced, > has discounted this thinking. > > Instead, reliable sources have told The Weekly Observer that Gaddafi > intended to embarrass, or even annoy, his host. > > According to these sources, Gaddafi had initially planned to meet some > leaders of the opposition, but he was advised against it. Eventually Buganda > was agreed on as a less 'lethal' weapon of his revenge. > > Sources at Mengo have intimated that the Kabaka, who was in the UK at the > time, was at first uncomfortable with the meeting, but decided to endorse it > to get at Museveni as well. > * > Only Nagginda knew?* > > Although the visit was a surprise to many at Mengo, more so in government, > reliable sources have told The Weekly Observer that at least one Mengo > official had prior knowledge of it. It is suspected that this official was > Nnabagereka Sylvia Nagginda, the Kabaka's wife. > > According to our sources, Hajji *Habib Kagimu*, a friend to Gaddafi and > interpreter during the Bulange meeting; who was behind the Nnabagereka's > visit to Libya some time back, was the architect of this surprise meeting. > > After addressing women at the Serena International Conference Centre on > March 18, Gaddafi was expected to travelto State House Entebbe for dinner with other heads of state he invited to > Uganda. Instead, Gaddafi drove to Bulange. > > Sources at Bulange have told The Weekly Observer, that even the Katikkiro, > John Baptist Walusimbi, had not been updated about the visit. He was only > informed on phone. > > In fact, most officials and staff at Bulange got wind of Gaddafi's arrival > after security officials descended on Bulange and Lubiri like bees, two > hours before the controversial visit. No Uganda government official was > present during the brief visit. > > *Gaddafi plans* > > During a private meeting with the Katikkiro, Gaddafi reportedly told his > host that he prefers to work with traditional establishments like Buganda to > realise his African Union dream. > > He said, according to our sources, that the African Union is being > frustrated by the colonial structures of 'presidents'. > > This statement could be interpreted as a criticism of Museveni who refused > to back Gaddafi's United States of Africa vision. > > Gaddafi feels betrayed by the majority of African leaderswho don't support his African dream, and is keen to take his message to the > African peoples themselves. > > Our sources at Mengo said officials there complained to the Libyan leader > about the government's refusal to hand over their property. > > Ironically, Gaddafi who now professes love for traditional establishments > deposed King Idris in a 1969 coup d'etat and abolished the kingdom. > > As if to strengthen his new found love, Gaddafi invited the Kabaka and his > ministers to Libya to sign a memorandum of understanding on trade and > business. > > At the end of the meeting he was presented with two portraits of Kabaka > Ronald Mutebi and his wife Sylvia Nagginda. He was also given a royal drum > and spear. > > *Raison d'etre* > > Buganda's Minister of Information and Cabinet Affairs, Charles Peter > Mayiga, declined to comment on the controversial visit when approached this > week. > > But the Minister of Ethics and Integrity, Dr. James Nsaba Buturo, who > chaired the Gaddafi visit organising committee, said the visit was not part > of his programme because it was "private". Buturo however insisted that > government knew about it. > > The President's Press Secretary, Joseph Tamale Mirundi, on the other hand, > downplayed the friction between Museveni and Mengo. > > "President Museveni is not at war with Mengo. His concerns are the lies and > arrogance of Mengo. Mengo as the biggest landlord has a right to express > itself on the Land Bill," he said. > > Besides, Tamale argued, Gaddafi was not a prisoner who could be confined to > one place. # > ** > ** > > BLOOD MONEY OUT OF AFRICA > > [On 6 April, 2001 Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (D), GA. Boldly sponsored > a forum on the totally ignored rape of Africa - a key part of the current > headlong rush toward globalization. *FTW *has been woefully silent about > Africa as we have reported on trends elsewhere in the world. We admit that > this has been partially out of ignorance which we begin to correct now by > posting (with permission) this report on her forum. As the planet coalesces > with frightening speed into three dominant economic regions (The Western > Hemisphere, Europe and Asia) it is critical to understand that the carnage > in Africa can only accelerate. McKinney, who sits on the House International > Relations Committee, is to be commended for her non-partisan critique of > both Democratic and Republican Administrations. The following is about as > ugly as it gets. - *FTW*] > > Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney > > Covert Action in Africa: A Smoking Gun in Washington, D.C. > > Rayburn House Office Building > Friday, April 6, 2001 > 10:00am - 12:00 noon > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney > > OPENING STATEMENT > > I want to thank you all for coming today. > > I especially want to thank our esteemed speakers for traveling, in some > instances quite a long way, to be with us today. > > Our speakers are courageous individuals who have gone to many of Africa's > most dangerous and desperately poor locations, not for wealth or riches, but > in order to merely discover the truth. They provide us with a remarkable > insight into what has gone on in Africa and what continues to go on in > Africa today. > > Much of what you will hear today has not been widely reported in the public > media. Powerful forces have fought to suppress these stories from entering > the public domain. > > Their investigations into the activities of Western governments and Western > businessmen in postcolonial Africa provide clear evidence of the West's > long-standing propensity for cruelty, avarice, and treachery. The misconduct > of Western nations in Africa is not due to momentary lapses, individual > defects, or errors of common human frailty. Instead, they form part of > long-term malignant policy designed to access and plunder Africa's wealth at > the expense of Africa's people. In short, the accounts you are about to hear > provide an indictment of Western activities in Africa. > > The West has, for decades, plundered Africa's wealth and permitted, and > even, assisted in slaughtering Africa's people. The West has been able to do > this while still shrewdly cultivating the myth that much of Africa's > problems today are African made--we have all heard the usual Western > defenses that Africa's problems are the fault of corrupt African > administrations, centuries-old tribal hatreds, the fault of unsophisticated > peoples. But we know that those statements are all a lie. We have always > known it. > > The accounts we are about to hear today assist us in understanding just why > Africa is in the state it is in today. You will hear that at the heart of > Africa's suffering is the West's, and most notably the United States', > desire to access Africa's diamonds, oil, natural gas, and other precious > resources. > > You will hear that the West, and most notably the United States, has set in > motion a policy of oppression, destabilization and tempered, not by moral > principle, but by a ruthless desire to enrich itself on Africa's fabulous > wealth. While falsely pretending to be the friends and allies of many > African countries, so desperate for help and assistance, many western > nations have in reality betrayed those countries' trust--and instead, have > relentlessly pursued their own selfish military and economic policies. > Western countries have incited rebellion against stable African governments > by encouraging and even arming opposition parties and rebel groups to begin > armed insurrection. > > The Western nations have even actively participated in the assassination of > duly elected and legitimate African Heads of State and replaced them with > corrupted and malleable officials. Western nations have even encouraged and > been complicit in the unlawful invasions by African nations into neighboring > counties. > > Something must be done to right these wrongs. > > I invite you to listen and learn first-hand of the West's activities in > Africa. > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Prepared Statement of Wayne Madsen > > WHAT A DIFFERENCE AN ELECTION MAKES: OR DOES IT? > > Wayne Madsen is an investigative journalist who has written for The Village > Voice, The Progressive, CAQ, and the Intelligence Newsletter. He is the > author of Genocide and Covert Activities in Africa 1993-1999 (Lewiston, NY: > Edwin Mellen, 1999), an expose of U.S. and French intelligence activities in > Africa's recent civil wars and ethnic rebellions. He served as an on-air > East Africa analyst for ABC News in the aftermath of the 1998 U.S. embassy > bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. Mr. Madsen has appeared on 60 Minutes, World > News Tonight, Nightline, 20/20, MS-NBC, and NBC Nightly News, among others. > He has been frequently quoted by the Associated Press, foreign wire > services, and many national and international newspapers. > > Mr. Madsen is also the author of a motion picture screen play treatment > about the nuclear submarine USS Scorpion. He is a former U.S. Naval Officer > and worked for the National Security Agency and U.S. Naval > Telecommunications Command. > > --- > > I wish to discuss the record of American policy in Africa over most of the > past decade, particularly that involving the central African Great Lakes > region. It is a policy that has rested, in my opinion, on the twin pillars > of unrestrained military aid and questionable trade. The military aid > programs of the United States, largely planned and administered by the U.S. > Special Operations Command and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), have > been both overt and covert. > > ACRI, ACSS, and the covert programs all involve the use of private military > training firms and logistics support contractors that are immune to Freedom > of Information Act requests. More troubling than these overt problems are > those that involve covert assistance to the Rwandan and Ugandan militaries. > Sources in the Great Lakes region consistently report the presence of a > U.S.-built military base near Cyangugu, Rwanda, near the Congolese border. > The base, reported to have been partly constructed by the U.S. firm Brown & > Root, a subsidiary of Halliburton, is said to be involved with training RPF > forces and providing logistics support to their troops in the DRC. > > The increasing reliance by the Department of Defense on so-called Private > Military Contractors (PMCs) is of special concern. Many of these PMCs -- > once labeled as "mercenaries" by previous administrations when they were > used as foreign policy instruments by the colonial powers of France, > Belgium, Portugal, and South Africa -- have close links with some of the > largest mining and oil companies involved in Africa today. PMCs, because of > their proprietary status, have a great deal of leeway to engage in covert > activities far from the reach of congressional investigators. They can > simply claim that their business in various nations is a protected trade > secret and the law now seems to be on their side. > > THE DESTABILIZATION OF AFRICA > > America's policy toward Africa during the past decade, rather than seeking > to stabilize situations where civil war and ethnic turmoil reign supreme, > has seemingly promoted destabilization. Former Secretary of State Madeleine > Albright was fond of calling pro-U.S. military leaders in Africa who assumed > power by force and then cloaked themselves in civilian attire, "beacons of > hope." > > In reality, these leaders, who include the current presidents of Uganda, > Rwanda, Ethiopia, Angola, Eritrea, Burundi, and the Democratic Republic of > the Congo preside over countries where ethnic and civil turmoil permit > unscrupulous international mining companies to take advantage of the strife > to fill their own coffers with conflict diamonds, gold, copper, platinum, > and other precious minerals including one that is a primary component of > computer microchips. > > Some of the companies involved in this new "scramble for Africa" have close > links with PMCs and America's top political leadership. For example, America > Minerals Fields, Inc., a company that was heavily involved in promoting the > 1996 accession to power of the late Congolese President Laurent-Desire > Kabila, was, at the time of its involvement in the Congo's civil war, > headquartered in Hope, Arkansas. Its major stockholders included long-time > associates of former President Clinton going back to his days as Governor of > Arkansas. America Mineral Fields also reportedly enjoys a close relationship > with Lazare Kaplan International, Inc., a major international diamond > brokerage whose president remains a close confidant of past and current > administrations on Africa matters. > > One of the major goals of the Rwandan-backed Rassemblement Congolais pour > la Democratie (RCD), a group fighting the Kabila government in Congo, is > restoration of mining concessions for Barrick Gold, Inc. of Canada. In fact, > the rebel RCD government's "mining minister" signed a separate mining deal > with Barrick in early 1999. Among the members of Barrick's International > Advisory Board are former President Bush and former President Clinton's > close confidant Vernon Jordan. > > Currently, Barrick and tens of other mining companies are stoking the > flames of the civil war in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Each > benefits by the de facto partition of the country into some four separate > zones of political control. First the mineral exploiters from Rwanda and > Uganda concentrated on pillaging gold and diamonds from the eastern Congo. > Now, they have increasingly turned their attention to a valuable black sand > called columbite-tantalite or "col-tan." Col-tan is a key material in > computer chips and, therefore, is as considered a strategic mineral. It is > my hope that the Bush administration will take pro-active measures to stem > this conflict by applying increased pressure on Uganda and Rwanda to > withdraw their troops from the country. However, the fact that President > Bush has selected Walter Kansteiner to be Assistant Secretary of State for > African, portends, in my opinion, more trouble for the Great Lakes region. A > brief look at Mr. Kansteiner's curriculum vitae and statements calls into > question his commitment to seeking a durable peace in the region. For > example, he has envisaged the splitting up of the Great Lakes region into > separate Tutsi and Hutu states through "relocation" efforts and has called > the break-up of the DRC inevitable. I believe Kansteiner's previous work at > the Department of Defense where he served on a Task Force on Strategic > Minerals and one must certainly consider col-tan as falling into that > category -- may influence his past and current thinking on the territorial > integrity of the DRC. After all, 80 per cent of the world's known reserves > of col-tan are found in the eastern DRC. It is potentially as important to > the U.S. military as the Persian Gulf region. > > The U.S. military and intelligence agencies, which have supported Uganda > and Rwanda in their cross-border adventures in the DRC, have resisted peace > initiatives and have failed to produce evidence of war crimes by the > Ugandans and Rwandans and their allies in Congo. The CIA, NSA, and DIA > should turn over to international investigators both signals intelligence > and human intelligence evidence in their possession, as well as overhead > imagery, including thermal imagery indicating the presence of mass graves > and when they were dug. There must be a full accounting before the Congress > by the staff of the U.S. Defense Attache's Office in Kigali who served there > from early 1994 to the present time. > > A LINGERING QUESTION ON ASSASSINATIONS > > The present turmoil in central Africa largely stems from a fateful incident > that occurred on April 6, 1994. That was the missile attack on the Rwandan > presidential aircraft that resulted in the death of Rwanda's Hutu President > Juvenal Habyarimana, his colleague President Cyprien Ntaryamira of Burundi, > Habyarimana's chief advisers, and the French crew. > > This aerial assassination resulted in a genocide coordinated by the > successor militant Hutu Rwandan government that cost the lives of some > 800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus. This was followed by a counter-genocide > orchestrated by the Tutsi-led Rwanda Patriotic Front (RPF) government that > resulted in the deaths of 500,000 mostly Hutu refugees in Rwanda and > neighboring Zaire/Congo. > > No one has even identified the assassins of the two presidents let alone > sought to bring them to justice. There have been a number of national and > international commissions that have looked into the causes for the Rwandan > genocide. These have included investigations by the Belgian Senate, the > French National Assembly, the United Nations, and the Organization of > African Unity. None of these investigations have identified the perpetrators > of the aerial assassination. In 1998, French Judge Jean-Louis Bruguiere > launched an investigation of the aircraft attack. After interviewing > witnesses in Switzerland, Rwanda, Tanzania, and Russia, Bruguiere apparently > has enough evidence to issue an international arrest warrant for President > Kagame. A former French Judge, Thierry Jean-Pierre, now a Member of the > European Parliament, in an entirely separate and private investigation, came > to the same conclusion that Kagame was behind the attack. The United States > government must come to its senses, as it did with past intelligence assets > like Sadaam Hussein, Alberto Fujimori, General Suharto, Ferdinand Marcos, > and Manuel Noriega, and support a judicial accounting by Kagame. If it is > proven that U.S. citizens were in any way involved in planning the > assassination, they should also be brought to justice before the > international war crimes tribunal. > > Immediately after the attack on the presidential plane, much of the popular > press in the United States brandished the theory that militant Hutus brought > it down. I suggest that following some four years of research concentrating > on the missile attack, there is no basis for this conclusion. In fact, I > believe there is concrete evidence to show that the plane was shot down by > operatives of the RPF. At the time, the RPF was supported by the United > States and its major ally in the region, Uganda. Prior to the attack, the > RPF leader, the current Rwandan strongman General Paul Kagame, received > military training at the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College at Fort > Leavenworth, Kansas. Many of Kagame's subordinates received similar > training, including instruction in the use of surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) > at the Barry Goldwater Air Force Range at Luke Air Force Base, Arizona. It > was Soviet-designed SAMs that were used to shoot down the Rwandan > president's airplane. By its own admission, the U.S. Defense Department > provided official military training to the RPF beginning in January 1994, > three months before the missile attack on the aircraft. > > In testimony before the French inquiry commission, former French Minister > for International Cooperation Bernard Debre insisted that the two SAM-16s > used in the attack on the aircraft were procured from Ugandan military > stocks and were "probably delivered by the Americans . . . from the Gulf > War." He was supported by two former heads of the French foreign > intelligence service (DGSE) Jacques Dewatre and Claude Silberzahn, as well > as General Jean Heinrich, the former head of French military intelligence > (DRM). Former moderate Hutu Defense Minister James Gasana, who served under > Habyarimana from April 1992 to July 1993, stated before the French inquiry > that his government declined to purchase SAMs because they realized the RPF > had no planes and, therefore, procurement of such weapons would have been a > waste of money. > > The contention by French government officials that the RPF was responsible > for the aerial attack is supported by three former RPF intelligence officers > who disclosed details of the operation to UN investigators. The three > informants were rated as Category 2 witnesses on a 4-point scale where 1 is > highly credible and 2 is "true but untested." The RPF informants claim the > plane was downed by an elite 10-member RPF team with the "assistance of a > foreign government." Some of the team members are apparently now deceased. A > confidential UN report on the plane attack was delivered to the head of the > UN War Crimes Tribunal, Judge Louise Arbour of Canada, but was never made > public. In fact, Arbour terminated the investigation when details of the > RPF's involvement in the assassination became clear. The UN now denies such > a report exists. Michael Hourigan, an Australian lawyer who first worked as > an International War Crimes Tribunal investigator and then for the UN's > Office of Internal Oversight Services, confirmed that the initial war crimes > investigation team uncovered evidence of the RPF's involvement in the attack > but their efforts were undercut by senior UN staff. > > After the former RPF intelligence team revealed details of the attack, they > were supported by yet another former RPF intelligence officer named Jean > Pierre Mugabe. In a separate declaration, Mugabe contended that the > assassination was directed by Kagame and RPF deputy commander-in-chief James > Kabarebe. The RPF, according to Mugabe, campaigned extensively for the > regional peace meeting in Dar es Salaam from which Habyarimana was returning > when he was assassinated. Mugabe claimed the idea was to collect the top > Hutu leadership on the plane in order to easily eliminate them in the > attack. > > Yet another defector from the RPF, Christophe Hakizabera, in a declaration > to a UN investigation commission, states that the "foreign power" that > helped the RPF shoot down the airplane was, in fact, Uganda. According to > Hakizabera, the first and second assassination planning meetings were held > in Uganda in the towns of Kabale and Mbarara, respectively. A third, in > which Kagame was present, was held in March 1994 in Bobo-Dioulasso, Burkina > Faso. > > As it did with the three other RPF defectors, the UN took no action as a > result of this complaint. It appears, and this is supported by private > conversations I have had with former UN officials, that some other party is > calling the shots in the world body's investigation of human rights > violations in Africa. > > The involvement of Uganda in the assassination tends to support the > contention of the former French government ministers that the SAMs were > provided to Uganda by the United States from captured Iraqi arms caches > during Desert Storm. My own research indicates that these missiles were > delivered to Uganda via a CIA-run arms depot outside of Cairo, Egypt. After > the transfer, Uganda kept some of the missiles and launchers for its own > armed forces and delivered the remainder to the Sudan People's Liberation > Army (SPLA) and the RPF. > > Other evidence pointing to an RPF role in the attack includes COMINT > (communications intelligence) picked up by military units and civilian radio > operators in Rwanda. A Rwandan Armed Forces COMINT listening station picked > up a transmission on an RPF frequency, which stated "the target is hit." > This was reported to a Togolese member of the UN Assistance Mission for > Rwanda (UNAMIR). A Belgian amateur radio operator reported that after the > attack, he heard someone on a frequency used by a Belgian PMC in Kigali > state, "We killed Le Grand (Habyarimana)." The Belgian operator also stated > that all Rwandan Armed Forces messages following the attack indicated the > Rwandan army was in complete disarray n something that would not have been > the case had the Rwandan government perpetrated the attack on its own > president. Another source of COMINT was a French signals intelligence unit > sent to Kigali from the French military base in Bangui, Central African > Republic. According to French Judge Jean-Pierre, copies of French intercepts > of RPF communications indicate, beyond a doubt, the culpability of the RPF > in the attack on the aircraft. > > Some formerly classified US State Department cables, which I received > following a Freedom of Information Act request, reveal that the U.S. foreign > policy establishment was of two minds over the April 6 attack. The U.S. > Embassy in Burundi kept a surprisingly open mind about its theories about > the missile attack, even suggesting a Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF) role in > it. Other U.S. diplomatic posts, most notably that in Kigali, seemed to > follow the script that the aircraft was downed by hard-line Hutus who wanted > to implement a well-planned genocide of Tutsis and moderate Hutus. > > A May 25, 1994 Secret message from the Department of State to all African > diplomatic posts also reports that "the RPF has summarily executed Hutu > militia alleged to have been involved in the massacres and the RPF has > admitted to such killings." The same message states that "Rwandan government > officials who controlled the airport" or "French military officials" > recovered the downed presidential aircraft's black box after securing the > airport and removing the body of the French pilot from Habyarimana's plane. > However, according to officials I interviewed who were involved with UN air > movements in the region, the black box was secretly transported to UN > Headquarters in New York where it remains to this day. > Officially, the Rwandan government claims the black box went missing. > According to the UN investigators, the black box was spirited away by UN > officials from Kigali to New York via Nairobi. In addition, this shipment > was known to US government officials. According to the UN sources, data from > the black box is being withheld by the UN under pressure from our own > government. The investigators also revealed that RPF forces controlled three > major approaches to Kayibanda Airport on the evening of the attack and that > European mercenaries, in the pay of the RPF and US intelligence, planned and > launched the missile attack on the Mystere-Falcon. The CIA figured > prominently in the UN investigation of the missile attack. According to the > investigators, the search for the assassins ultimately led to a warehouse in > Kanombe, near the airport. From this warehouse, during the afternoon of > April 6, the missile launchers were assembled and readied for action by the > mercenaries. As the UN investigation team was nearing its final conclusion > and was prepared to turn up evidence indicating the warehouse had been > leased by a Swiss company, said to be linked to U.S. intelligence, its > mandate was swiftly terminated. > > CONCLUSION > > It is clear that the United States, contrary to comments made by its senior > officials, including former President Clinton, played more of a role in the > Rwandan tragedy than it readily admits. This involvement continued through > the successive Rwandan and Ugandan-led invasions of neighboring Zaire/Congo. > Speculation that Rwanda was behind the recent assassination of President > Laurent Kabila in Congo (and rumors that the CIA was behind it) has done > little to put the United States in a favorable light in the region. After > all, the date of Kabila's assassination on January 16 this year -- was > practically 40 years from the very day of the CIA-planned and executed > assassination of Congolese leader Patrice Lumumba. > > The quick pace at which Kabila's son and successor Joseph Kabila visited > the United States at the same time of Kagame's presence, and his subsequent > meetings with Corporate Council for Africa officials and Maurice Tempelsman > (the majordomo of U.S. Africa policy), calls into question what the United > States knew about the assassination and when it knew about it. > > Also, particularly troublesome is a conclusion the CIA is said to have > reached in an assessment written in January 1994, a few months before the > genocide. According to key officials I have interviewed during my research, > that analysis came to the conclusion that in the event that President > Habyarimana was assassinated, the minimum number of deaths resulting from > the mayhem in Rwanda would be 500 (confined mostly to Kigali and environs) > and the maximum 500,000. Regrettably, the CIA's higher figure was closer to > reality. > > Certain interests in the United States had reason to see Habyarimana and > other pro-French leaders in central Africa out of the way. As recently > written by Gilbert Ngijol, a former Assistant to the Special Representative > of the Secretary General of the UN to Rwanda in 1994, the United States > directly benefited economically from the loss of influence of French and > Belgian mining interests in the central Africa and Great Lakes regions. > > There is also reason to believe that a number of people with knowledge of > Kagame's plot against the presidential aircraft have been assassinated. > These possibly include Tanzania's former intelligence chief, Major General > Imran Kombe, shot dead by policemen in northeastern Tanzania after he was > mistaken for a notorious car thief. His wife maintains he was assassinated. > Kombe had knowledge of not only the planned assassination of the Rwandan and > Burundian presidents but a plot against Kenya's President Moi and Zaire's > President Mobutu, as well. There is a belief that Roman Catholic Archbishop > of Bukavu, Emmanuel Kataliko, was assassinated last October in Rome by > members of a Rwandan hit team acting on orders from Kagame. Other Tutsi and > Hutu leaders who oppose Kagame's regime continue to flee Rwanda to the U.S. > and France in fear of their lives. Rwanda's figurehead Hutu President > Pasteur Bizimungu was forced to resign last year under pressure from the > only power in Rwanda, his then-Vice President, Paul Kagame. Deus Kagiraneza, > a former intelligence officer in Kagame's Military Intelligence Directorate > (DMI), interim Prefect of the Ruhengeri province, and member of the > Parliament, is now in exile in Belgium. He charges that Kagame's top > government and military are responsible for torturing and executing their > political opponents. Kagiraneza maintains that the RPF has pursued such > policies since the time of the 1990 invasion of Rwanda from Uganda. > > It is beyond time for the Congress to seriously examine the role of the > United States in the genocide and civil wars of central Africa, as well as > the role that PMCs currently play in other African trouble spots like > Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Equatorial Guinea, Angola, Ethiopia, and Cabinda. > Other nations, some with less than stellar records in Africa, France and > Belgium for example, have had no problem examining their own roles in > Africa's last decade of turmoil. At the very least, the United States, as > the world's leading democracy, owes Africa at least the example of a > critical self-inspection. > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Prepared Statement of Keith Snow > > Thank you Representative McKinney for organizing this very important forum. > > > I find it particularly remarkable that the diamond exports from the > Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) were some US$897 million in 1997. Now > this is a "country" which was in a major war. And then in 1998, DRC ranked > second in diamond production at 25.7 million carats. Again, a country in a > brutal war where hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people and in fact I > think it is millions of people -- suffered the consequences through disease > and despair and displacement and rape and hunger and robbery and often > death. > > Based on my research, this is a western syndicated proxy war, and like > Sierra Leone, Angola and Sudan, it is war-as-cover for the rapid and > unrestricted extraction of raw materials, and war as a means to totally > disenfranchise the local people. Diamonds, gold, columbium tantalite, > niobium, cobalt, manganese and petroleum, natural gas and timber and > possibly uranium -- are a few of the major spoils being pillaged behind the > scenes as war ravages DRC and some of these minerals are almost solely found > in DRC, especially cobalt, niobium, columbium tantalite. > > Barrick Gold provides a convenient example using war-as-cover. According to > testimony I took in western Uganda in November, Barrick Gold is operating in > the Kilo Moto mines near Bunia. These mines are reportedly protected by > UPDF. An Israeli General was awarded another Kilo Moto concession and UPDF > and RCD operate others. And there is massive ivory poaching again protection > rackets going on. Barrick Advisory Board member George Bush and his CIA > connections certainly play into these mining deals and lay the groundwork > a.k.a. slaughter if necessary to get the product. That includes long-time > links to people like CIA station operative in Zaire Lawrence Devlin for > example, and his associations with the Templesmans. Look at the CIA > operations in Lubumbashi and you will probably find connections to the > repression and massacres of students at the University of Lubumbashi in the > early 1990s. > > George Bush apparently telephoned Mobutu just prior to the first US > supported invasion of Congo August 1996 on behalf of Swedish Financier > Adolph Lundin to negotiate a deal over the Kilo Moto fields. And the US > Presidential Election outcome of 1996 was completely irrelevant to the > invasion of Zaire and the replacement of Mobutu. Remember that Kagame was in > Washington about August 1996 checking his battle plans with the Pentagon. > Mobutu's days were numbered. > > The US took all the right decisions to allow the Rwanda genocide to unfold. > And Clinton's comment that "we didn't know what was going on at the time" > couldn't have been a bigger lie. Do you suppose it was coincidental that a > Rwanda delegate rotated on to the security council early in 1994 and then > worked with US representatives to block all subsequent attempts to deal > appropriately with the unfolding slaughter? > > The Lundin Group appears also to be involved in south Katanga, where they > are into the Tenke Fungarume copper/cobalt concessions. This is near where > America Mineral Fields International and Anglo American are operating as > well. And these are a few of the many mining companies. > > All these US military programs like IMET and E-IMET, ACRI and JCET are > designed to consolidate US hegemony. UPDF and RCD and SPLA have conscripted > child soldiers. They use sophisticated weapons not only the machetes so > widely advertised by the media propaganda front of 1994 which sowed > indifference and apathy in the US public. Troops have been trained by US > green berets and US military personnel have worked to coordinate SPLA and > RPF/UPDF/RCD military campaigns. This is according to Ugandan dissidents > and/or Congolese refugees fleeing Congo and/or ex-patriots on the ground. > And there are plenty of people who support these statements. > > Weapons are reportedly shipped in through Entebbe. Again, people testified > to seeing "American blacks" -- quote Negroes unquote traveling in the area, > both in Uganda and in Eastern DRC, but they are always very clandestine and > they don't mingle or talk to people. One refugee cited the locations of > jungle camps where western he said American military advisors were training > RCD or RPF or UPDF guerrillas in counterinsurgency and heavy artillery > operations. Again, this was in November. > > Note that the whole Tutsi contre-genocide against Hutus is off the radar > screen of people in the US and that's because the media has covered for the > powerful interests and US agenda of consolidating power in the region by any > means necessary. In fact, the RPF have actually "turned" Interahamwe to > their service in doing the dirty work of eliminating any dissidents and > insurgents and creating a situation defined by the media as incomprehensible > tribal warfare. > > It was reported to me that UPDF will disguise themselves as their enemies > and attack villages to provide justification to return and sweep n a.k.a. > brutalize or rape or pillage these villages. They have also reportedly used > these tactics to substantiate their needs for international support weapons > and funds and military expertise from US and UK backers, funds and equipment > which was often diverted to the secret US SPLA war against Khartoum, for > example. > > But war doesn't seem to be essential to the plan. Multinational > > corporations-- a very significant constellation of US companies and/or US > citizens included, are everywhere stripping the resources, leaving pollution > and disease and environmental disasters in their wakes. And you might probe > into the whole classified nuclear waste transshipments programs. > > Nigeria, Cameroon, Gabon, Togo, Niger, Madagascar and Burkina Faso provide > examples, being massively exploited, where military repression and > structural adjustment and the concomitant destitution suffice to enable > lucrative western control and exploitation. Zambia, Tanzania, Namibia, > Botswana and Ghana are a few more examples where I have similarly witnessed > profound human suffering amidst huge multinational profits and SAP. I mean, > 120 years after the British invasion of western Zambia this is an area > heavily burdened by refugee flows out of Angola and DRC and the concomitant > insecurity of insurgent nomadic military forces -- the people have > absolutely no possessions. The schools don't exist and even if they do there > are no books and the kids are so destitute that they often can't attend in > any case. You can't buy basic staples. I mean absolutely no food, no > medicine, no drugs for malaria. Some 30% of people in Zambia don't even know > that malaria is caused by mosquitoes. But you can buy Coca-Cola and Sprite > and Fanta virtually everywhere, but there are usually no basic foodstuffs, > no books, no medical supplies. You cannot imagine the suffering until you > live it yourself. > > And it is no coincidence that one of the directors of Coca Cola now I think > that's a US company -- is also a Director of Elf, and ELFs corrupt practices > have been mildly exposed but very, very mildly. > > These wars are prosecuted by local warlords, military dictators and their > elite intelligence and security networks, typically armed, funded and > trained by western intelligence and/or ex-military and/or private security > companies. And these networks are particularly ruthless. However, again, > they are directly associated with in-country western military and > intelligence advisors and their programs. That includes Israel, US, British, > German and French. But IMF/WB and OPIC and ADB funds continue to flow, and > they support selective interests and projects and infrastructure which helps > their related industries further expropriate the resources and the people > and the institutions. > > Uganda provides a good example. Uganda is at war on three fronts and a > significant percentage of the IMF/WB funding which has gone into Uganda has > been diverted for military objectives. The banks which fund Uganda through > the international monetary institutions are often associated with the > multinationals involved in the plunder of raw materials. Uganda has > supported the SPLA war in southern Sudan, and I took testimony from Uganda > dissidents who insist that US military advisors have worked with the SPLA > and UPDF against Khartoum. > > In Cameroon, Benin, Burkina Faso, Gabon and Niger in 1997, I found abundant > evidence of unrestricted raw materials extraction by interests associated > with the United States. The people of the oil-producing areas of the Niger > River Delta are suffering horrendous atrocities. Again, on the Niger border > with Burkina -- famine, disease, despair, political repression for the most > trifling reasons -- and right next door there is a Barrick Gold mining > operation. And Sumitomo and the Keidanren (Zaibatsu) out of Japan are all > involved. And people in these (African) countries know what is going on, but > they can't tell their stories because most westerners are completely caught > up in the mental illness of colonialism and imperialism, which disallows the > simple truth to be seen. And those who tell their stories are often > brutalized or disappeared. > > In Zimbabwe, the issue of land and elections and Mugabe's intransigence > aside, the lasting repercussions of the Mugabe "five brigade" genocide > against the Ndebele people in Matebelelands North and South and the Midlands > provinces are heartbreaking. Here was this scorched earth campaign from 1981 > to 1987 where hundreds and hundreds of thousands perished, where food was > used as a weapon and rape prevailed, and the United States diverted its > eyes. And the media knew about it but the media diverted its eyes. And this > is all very current stuff in Zimbabwe. The 1990s was more of the same in a > more subtle form. And the Ndebele people have suffered untold injustice and > terror. > > Meanwhile, there was plenty of mining and tobacco farming going on in > Zimbabwe and the weapons for Mugabe's dirty little secrets came from where? > The IMF and WB funded Mugabe, no matter, throughout his tenure and right up > into the late 1990s. Again, these are big banks like Chase Manhattan and > First Boston and Citicorp and the Morgan Banks -- and their directors sit on > some of the western media boards and they dictate relief operations at a > certain level. And then of course there are all these supranational > multinational corporations like Asea Brown Baveri (ABB) and Unilever and > Royal Dutch Shell and Lonrho and Citibank and Bechtel. I mean, Bechtel gets > away with raping the system in Boston the 10 or 12 billion dollar overruns > in the Harbor Tunnel project never mind their tight CIA and US government > interconnections, policy interventions of dictations, and the orchestration > of coups, assassinations, disappearances and wars. > > Lonrho of course is Buckingham Palace and I contend that very powerful US > citizens are tied in through companies like Brown and Root and Halliburton > to Lonrho and Lonrho interests. And please recall that Vice President Cheney > is a former Halliburton executive. And Lonrho has a lock on British media. > And it is no coincidence that Lonrho has the most elegant and modern > skyscraper in downtown Nairobi. > > And all this is hidden by the US media. Even the village idiot, if he opens > his eyes, can see that the directors of the media corporations are the same > directors of those corporations raping Africa. But too many people have a > paycheck to worry about. And that includes humanitarian organizations and > the United Nations and the OAU and the International Criminal Tribunal on > Rwanda. > > Special torture centers and death squads and massive repression of the > population are the rule in Togo, Cameroon, Kenya, Gabon, Nigeria, Zimbabwe, > Burkina Faso, and were so in Zaire. And these people--Eyadema, Biya, Bongo, > Obasanjo, Abacha, Babangida, Mobutu, Compaore, Rawlings, Banda, Kaunda, Moi, > Habyarimana, Kagame, Museveni, Garang, Ratsiraka--they provide the > environment for pillage, and they are duly rewarded, with power, with all > the perks. > > Charles Taylor was incarcerated in Charlestown, Massachusetts circa 1983 or > 1984 and he is the only person, I believe, in the history of the Charlestown > jail to have been broken out. Apparently the records no longer exist of his > stay there. And now he is President in Liberia? > > And then you have the whole misery industry, which profits from the wars > and repression and population displacement which their affiliated > institutions and their funding banks and materials-providing multinationals > create. Again, you don't need a Ph.D. to figure out that thousands of highly > paid western AID workers would be out of a job if there were peace in Sudan. > And Toyota wouldn't sell all those shiny 4-WD SUVs. And who would buy the US > made weapons? And all that business of feeding and clothing and interning > the refugees would be lost by these multinationals who get huge tax > write-offs and subsidies and whose products are purchased by USAID or other > government agencies. And some of these relief organizations also have close > ties to the corporate media executives. > > So I see it as a policy of depopulation in Africa. Because what I am > talking about is access. That's all. Access to the animals. Access to the > game parks and trophy fishing. Access to the minerals. Access to the cheap > and replenishable labor pool. Access to uninformed populations to dump > inferior and toxic and outdated products on. Access for military adventurism > and special forces training and psyops operations. Access to biological and > pharmaceutical testing grounds. Access to markets. And while at times it > seems contradictory, at times it is, but it's all completely unethical, > entirely arrogant and racist. It is driven purely by greed. And the profound > human suffering is totally unnecessary. > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > *Prepared Statement of Janine Farrell Roberts * > > MAURICE TEMPELSMAN: THE CONVERGENCE OF POLICY AND PROFIT IN PRIVATE How US > Foreign Policy over decades was influenced by the Diamond Cartel. > > By author of Book "Blood Stained Diamonds," Janine Farrell Roberts The > Secret Story Behind Blood Diamonds > > May I first briefly introduce myself. I hold degrees in Sociology and > Theology and have authored several books written about Australian Aborigines > and their civil rights struggle, which were launched by their leaders. For > many years I was funded by a coalition of US and European church to work on > human rights frontiers internationally. > > This work led me to De Beers - after it clashed with an Aboriginal > community. The more I worked internationally the more I discovered about its > human rights violations. I have now been researching and writing on De Beers > and the diamond trade for twenty years during which time I have made several > films - including: "The Diamond Empire", a feature length" Frontline" since > suppressed by WGBH due to pressure from De Beers. The owners of Doubleday > also commissioned a major work from me on diamonds - only to drop it at the > very last moment as they wrote "rich and important people" did not want it > to come out. > > De Beers is nothing if not secretive In the course of my investigation, De > Beers banned me from its South African diamond mines where I was the guest > of the National Union of Mineworkers (but I was smuggled in). Here I > witnessed in De Beers's mines horrific conditions with wages paid at > one-third of the official union minimum and in very hazardous conditions. I > also witnessed considerable natural resources being hidden from the SA > Government. I went also to India and witnessed children as young as 8 > cutting and polishing diamonds in workshops mostly supplied by De Beers > through its favored merchants, working in what is defined as a form of > slavery. The wages were slashed this year from 40c to 25c a diamond causing > riots. Workers get one dollar a day for cutting romantic gems. India cuts > 55% by value of the world's gem diamonds. > > De Beers tried to stop my film in the Canadian NW Territories diamond > fields - but the Sierra Club and the Unions made it happen. On 5th Avenue, > merchants were phoned telling them not to speak to me "as I worked with > Blacks in Australia to make life difficult for De Beers." I was also the > keynote speaker at the first post apartheid conference of Southern African > mineworkers where I was funded by the World Council of Churches. > > I have been told that a major reason for some of my difficulties is the > fear publishers have of a certain Maurice Tempelsman, the former companion > of Jackie Onassis who in 1998 was reported to be developing a relationship > with Secretary of State Albright. He is a leading international diamond > merchant of unique power and influence - often he has helped shape US > foreign policy in directions that favour De Beers. I have extensively > researched his work. Much of this is in my forthcoming book "Blood Stained > Diamonds." > > I have been asked to talk about Tempelsman's role in the confluence of > public policy and private profit that happens in private. He is an excellent > example. I have time only to summarise my findings. > > Why was he uniquely important in the De Beers? In the 1940s De Beers was > indicted by the US Justice Department for price fixing under the Sherman > Act. The US also believed De Beers had rationed the supply of tool diamonds > to the US during the Second World War severely damaging the war effort. It > was determined never to let this happen again, and legislation was thus > passed to set up a national diamond stockpile. De Beers needed a way to > ensure it was the source of this stockpile despite being indicted. It sought > a middleman to do the deals with the US. Early in the 1950s Tempelsman met > with the Oppenheimers who rule De Beers and became this middleman. He was > uniquely supplied with millions of diamonds to sell the US as its strategic > reserve. Most of these diamonds came from the Congo. > > THE CONGO > > When Lumumba, Congo's first elected leader, spoke of using the Congo's > resources to benefit the Congo. De Beers feared it would lose access to the > one-third of world's diamond supply in the Congo - as would also Tempelsman. > Shortly after this, the CIA facilitated Lumumba's assassination. Evidence on > this came before the Church Intelligence Commission. Immediately after > Lumumba's death, the Acting Prime Minister of the Congo, Adoula announced > support for a very major Tempelsman diamond deal, telegramming this to > President Kennedy. The historian Richard Mahoney claimed that the Adoula > regime was receiving funds from Tempelsman. A State Department memo headed > "Congo Diamond Deal" stated "The State Department has concluded that it is > in the political interest of the US to implement this proposal." (2 August > 1961) > > Immediately after Mobutu came to power, Tempelsman became an even bigger > player in the Congo - recruiting his own staff from those CIA staffers that > Mobutu most favored that put him in power. Mobutu also at this time gave > Tempelsman, as a "Christmas Gift," rich mineral reserves. According to > Tempelsman's staff we interviewed, they had a wonderful time helping to run > the Congo. One of the first acts by Tempelsman was to facilitate the return > of the Oppenheimers to the Congo - and to secure funding for Mobutu. He > succeeded in persuading the White House to secretly buy a vast number of > diamonds for the US strategic reserve - at a time when Administration > officials were protesting that the reserve was over full. The reason for > this deal given in secret US government memos was to support Mobutu and his > partner Adoula. This Tempelsman plan made much profit for him and for De > Beers. > > A State Department Cable of 23 December 1964 warned about the need of > secrecy over this Mobutu diamond and South African uranium deal because; "it > could outrage the moderate Africans we are trying to calm down." It suggest > South African Foreign Minister Muller would understand the need for secrecy > since the US was "doing a job" in the Congo that South Africa could not do. > This covert support for Mobutu gave the US a gross excess in the strategic > diamond stockpile that was still being sold off in 1997. > > In 1967 the State Department reported; "Tempelsman is playing an > increasingly central role as GDRC (Congo's) technical advisor and mediator." > But these deals and other deals done throughout the following decades with a > corrupt Mobutu government left the Congolese people in absolute poverty. > > GHANA > > In the late 1950s democracy arrived in Africa with the election of > President Nkrumah - who thought Black Africans should not have to sell > diamonds to an apartheid company - so took Ghana's diamonds from the cartel. > A short while later, the State Department wrote a furious letter to Maurice > Tempelsman saying that his office, by using an unguarded phone line, had > betrayed the identity of the plotters against Nkrumah and the identity of > the CIA Head of Station. The plotters seemingly were communicating to the > White House via Tempelsman's office. (Memorandum for the President from WW > Rostow, 24 September 1961) Tempelsman clearly had advanced knowledge of this > coup attempt. Shortly afterwards President Kennedy decided not to > "downgrade" (his word) Tempelsman for this error. > > SIERRA LEONE > > Tempelsman worked out a new diamond contract for President Stevens - under > which Tempelsman got 27% of the country's diamonds - setting up an > independent cutting factory - and De Beers bought shares in it. However it > was not set up to compete effectively. > > I have gathered ample evidence that historically Sierra Leone has been > grossly exploited by fraudulent De Beers' practices which I would be happy > to give during question time. > > ANGOLA > > In recent years Tempelsman has been trying to use US money and support to > set up Savimbi of UNITA in the diamond trade with both De Beers the US > support. On the side, he has also been setting up his own diamond cutting > factory - here as in his other African cutting plants on terms that are > likely to stop Africa getting a fully commercial cutting industry... a De > Beers aim. > Tempelsman in 1996 persuaded the Assistant Secretary of State George E. > Moose to give him a letter suggesting that the US would finance Tempelsman's > plans. On October 10th 1996 he met with Tony Lake the National Security > Advisor and with Lake's deputy, Shawn McCormick - and gained their support > for Tempelsman's plans. In May 1997 the US Ambassador for Angola, Steinbach > met with Savimbi - to back the Tempelsman plan. This plan included UNITA > keeping its diamond mines - and selling them via De Beers. Again US foreign > policy was being shaped to benefit De Beers. > > TEMPELSMAN'S INDEPENDENCE OF DE BEERS > > Tempelsman frequently poses as an independent diamond merchant, even as a > rival to De Beers. This has enabled him to do such things as to advise the > President of Namibia on his negotiations with De Beers. But if he were truly > such, he would lose his diamond supplies from De Beers as have other diamond > merchants who tried to rival De Beers. He has never lost these supplies. He > is rumoured in the trade as having one of the very largest of the diamond > "sights" supplied by De Beers. It is easy for De Beers to pay him secretly. > They simply put more and better stones into the box they send him. The US > customs are unable to check if this has happened, as they do not the experts > on staff. > > CONCLUSION > > Maurice Tempelsman served the De Beers diamond cartel by promoting foreign > policy decisions that favoured its access to and control of African diamond > fields. This lead to the US covertly supporting undemocratic and corrupt > regimes in Africa to the great detriment of the African people. > > Information on Blood Diamonds Suppressed? > > Why did WGBH suppress its Frontline program "The Diamond Empire," refusing > to sell it to many who asked for it. The owners of Doubleday were later > scared off from publishing the "sensational, important and accomplished" > (their words) human rights book "Glitter and Greed: The story of Blood > Stained Diamonds." 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URL: From willkeku at yahoo.com Fri Apr 2 01:44:35 2010 From: willkeku at yahoo.com (Will Keku) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 22:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] VOTE NO TO THE CONSTITUION In-Reply-To: <50954.23854.qm@web111407.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <257212.60821.qm@web43512.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The band has played its last song and the curtains have been drawn, the stage has now been set for the final and decisive stage of the constitution of Kenya. To decide whether to vote ?No? ?or to vote ? yes? will not be a light decision for Kenyans. They now hold the future of the faith of their country in their hands. Chairman of the COE was quick in his closing words to explain the contentious issues, which to him revolved around devolution and the abortion debate. To him, the issue of the kadhi courts is not an issue worth mentioning. The dismissal of a fundamental belief of the Christian faith clearly shows the stand the chairman took, which by such silence is a loud declaration of the obvious suppression of other beliefs by the muslim faith. Many argue that the Kadhi courts have had no visible effect to the lively hoods of other faiths. But what is not clear, is why a particular faith should want to be treated as more superior than all others.? If you use the example of the Nigerian system, this system will become obvious when federalism comes to age in Kenya. Here the rights of other faiths will be automatically suppressed as they will have no rights in the constitution. The Sheriah law will already have a head start and if a federal state, by the fact that constitutionally ?the muslim faith is already entrenched, then you will have to contend with the rules governing the state you will be in. Today in Nigeria, the Sheria law is about to abolish face book which has been championing the rights of other people in the face of this faith which many in Kenya do not profess to. I have opted to use Nigeria as an example because it is the current stage where Christianity and Islam are on constant collision course due to entrenchment of muslim faith in the federal states. When you say yes to this constitution, you are simply setting the stage for future confrontation and judging by the implementation of issues by the Islamic fundamentals, you may as well un-subscribe to such forums in advance. I believe you all remember the agreement one politician had signed with the muslims in return for their support. Even though the politician tried to refute, the muslim leaders came out strongly to say the contrary. 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URL: From hmumia at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 02:02:11 2010 From: hmumia at gmail.com (Harry) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 07:02:11 +0100 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Biblical Story of Noah's Ark ---- Unanswered Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Solomon....can we meet for a beer? On 4/2/10, Solomon Njathi wrote: > Listen to what *Charles Kingsley*, (12 June 1819 ? 23 January 1875) Canon > of the Church of England, university professor,historian, and novelist had > to say about religion. > > *"We have used the Bible as if it were a mere special constable's hand book, > an opium dose for keeping beasts of burden patient while they were being > overloaded, a mere book to keep the poor in order"* > ** > Thats why anytime you question religion the masses will lash out on you coz > what you are in essence questioning is their choice in life. > > To put it in *Karl Marx's* words*..."To call on them to give up their > illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition > that requires illusions.The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, > the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo"* > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Harry wrote: > >> Like me or hate me, it doesn't really bother me. So my religious brethren >> s, the story of Noah's Ark elicits more questions than answers in the >> Bible. >> As i continue to interrogate the Bible, my hope is that as Africans, we >> shall eventually see that the colonial masters duped us into embracing >> religion blindly. >> >> >> 1. God saw how great wickedness had become and decided to wipe mankind >> from the face of the earth. This doesn't make sense. *Wipe the whole of >> earth because of a few sinners?* >> 2. God also instructed Noah to bring into the ark two of *all living >> creatures*, male and female, along with every kind of food to be stored >> as food for the animals and his family while on the ark. Noah obeyed >> everything God commanded him to do. -- Is this practical? *How does one >> bring all animals on earth and food to store in some wooden ark? How >> does >> one manage this feat!!* >> 3. After they entered the ark, rain fell on the earth for a period of >> forty days and nights. The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and >> fifty >> days, and every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out. >> *What??! >> Picture this...how does it rain across the entire globe? And if i was >> in >> Africa at that time, surely why should God punish me for some sins >> committed >> in Israel?!** * >> 4. *Later God established a covenant with Noah: "Never again will there >> be a flood to destroy the earth." As a sign of this everlasting >> covenant God >> set a rainbow in the clouds. What??!! The rainbow is a phenomenon that >> is caused when light is refracted through a prism or drops of >> water... goddammit.* >> >> *Does anyone have a logical explanation for the above?* >> >> -- >> TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by >> Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By >> Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen >> Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your >> Head >> by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of >> Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The >> Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano >> >> AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In >> 3 >> Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & >> Easy >> Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight >> Swahili >> >> EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, >> Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa >> >> Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 >> >> FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 >> 208 >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to youngprofessionals_ke+ >> unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE >> ME" as the subject. >> > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim > Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda > Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, > Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by > Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. From alextallam at yahoo.com Fri Apr 2 02:13:29 2010 From: alextallam at yahoo.com (Alex Tallam) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 23:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - Be sane! In-Reply-To: <00a501cad1e0$83fd5e60$8bf81b20$@com> References: <8684.84140.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4BB4C478.6B23.006C.1@anu.ac.ke> <432686.33559.qm@web52308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <312426.72799.qm@web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <00a501cad1e0$83fd5e60$8bf81b20$@com> Message-ID: <939229.28659.qm@web57315.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Is it a coincidence that all those calling on others to forget what happened in 2007 comes from the same community? are you infact telling us that all those who died did so in vain? can we be honest to ourselves for heavenly sake! otherwise you seem not to have learnt anything from the PEV. You cannot come to this forum and tell us that nobody knows who won the elections, that is an insult which should never be peddled anywhere, I mean who does not know who won and who lost? you cannot win in 2 provinces and become the overall winner, that is just impossible. The fact that the guy who lost is the president today does not mean anything, he is just but an illegitimate president and he himself knows that. I am just fed up with guys coming here with their sarcasms wanting others to believe them. It is high time we call a spade a spade and stop this bulshit. As a matter of fact, people want to move on, but we cannot do so if some unsorted individuals keep feeding us with lies in the hope that Kenyans will buy them. The truth will remain the truth and nothing will change that, and we better appreciate that before we rethink the existence of the country in the current form. ________________________________ From: maina ndiritu To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 12:15:48 AM Subject: RE: [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - Be sane! If you have nothing to say , it is always best not to say anything ?sang , ?what the truth is?. nobody here knows , all we have is conjecture and accusations have no meaning unless we can get farther with it? , accusations will go on ?for the next two years , yet there is nothing anybody can do ??, unfortunately kibaki remains the president , so what else is new ? ? From:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com [mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sang kip Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 5:48 PM To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - Be sane! ? MUIGAI: One Emilio Reclusive Kibaki had himself declared the winner of 2007 election and got sworn in darkness.He then appointed his own tribe to all key government positions. The big-eyed Karua expected to be appointed deputy PM but when it never happened she resigned as a minister and she is trying to endear himself to baba. Even babies know Kibaki never won and the sane have no arguments about that. ? ________________________________ From:RENOLDS CHEPTUMO To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 9:26:23 AM Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - "ODM Bullied their way to power" Muigai, ? What happened was that Kibaki stole the votes and swore himself in at night, and after that people lost lives and property,?that is what went wrong if you never knew. I do not understand why people want to run away from the truth when we still have IDPs, why do you want it to be past tense when its not yet over? ? Cheptumo. ? ________________________________ From:musa muigai To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 4:47:40 PM Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - "ODM Bullied their way to power" Dear all, Other than voting whoever you voted, i am sure we cannot tell exactly what happened there after.All i know is something went wrong somewhere period. Lets avoid unnecessary talks,that is past tense lets work towards building a better tomorrow. Ok my dear Kenyans? God bless. Moses On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Shadrack Kirunga wrote: Guys, this is the wrong place for this debate because all of us have secondary information. From what we are seeing in the petitions, there was massive rigging in the elections from all sides. We simply cant tell who won, including the MPs who sit in parliament today. Can we leave this debate and move on please? >>> Emillio Karega 4/1/2010 3:08 PM >>> Harry, Facts are facts. Kibaki won the election according to the Constitution and Laws of Kenya. Any other claim is bogus, emotional and delusional. Karua has been Karua; she has stuck to facts and as someone said "facts are sacred." why did some members of ODM claim that Raila NEVER won the Presidential Election? On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:08 PM, isaiah githinji wrote: Harry, Just to get a balanced view on this issue, please educate me. 1. Was the allegation from Isaac Ruto in a public rally that ODM never won the election true? 2. What were the recommendations and report of Kriegler commission. 3. There were areas that reported over 90% voter turn out. Do you believe in over 90% turnout in an election? --- On Thu, 4/1/10, jane maurine gati wrote: From: jane maurine gati Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - "ODM Bullied their way to power" To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com Cc: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com, "Harrison Mumia N" Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 12:09 AM Harry, "Wembe ni ule ule Error! Filename not specified." On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Harry wrote: Dear All, Fortunately for where i work, there is a TV on 6th floor and i got a chance to go to the TV room and catch up with Parliamentary Proceedings of yesterday. ? One thing that captured my attention is when Isaac Ruto, the fiery Chepalungu MP stood up to state that PNU stole the elections. This was during the debate on devolution, tabled by Orengo. ? Well, just to update you, and it was also shown on KTN prime at 9, Martha Karua stood on a point of order and asked the chair whether it was in order for the Chepalungu MP to suggest this when he had said that Kibaki won the elections in a public rally. She also said that ODM bullied their way to power. ? Has Martha Karua really changed? She still believes PNU won fair and Square? She still feels we needed to go to court? After Justice Evans Gicheru swore in the president? Has she really changed since resigning as Justice Minister? ? 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URL: From imo4492 at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 03:20:47 2010 From: imo4492 at gmail.com (Ogendi) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:50:47 +0930 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts In-Reply-To: <993354.99150.qm@web52407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <993354.99150.qm@web52407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Joe If we reject the draft constitution because it has provision for Kadhi's Courts then we go back to the current constitution which also has had provision for Kadhi's courts. It has been there ever sincere yet you and I as practising Christians have never been affected by it. We should learn to live and let our brothers live also. Do not preach the gospel of Live and let others Leave. Continuing your line of argument does not help the Christian cause. Indeed you remind of the 'Bible Belt' Christians in the USA who were the most ardent promoters of slavery and even fought wars to keep seep slaves. They also took up arms and prayed for Obama's death because he sought to make healthcare accessible to 42 million Americans who have suffered sicknesses and lost family members because they couldn't afford healthcare. Their actions (like your own) are actions that Christ could rebuke if he was walking the Earth today. I'm disappointed. But believe there are enough Kenyan Christians who are wise enough to counter our homegrown Christian preachers of doctrines that will further divide our divided country and people. Ogendi. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Joe Githinji wrote: > I agree with Washington. And in any case, if the NCCK insists that they'll > marshall their flock not to vote for the draft coz of that...well, they'll > have lost anyway coz we'll be stuck with the current constitution that has > Kadhi courts. Let's not deny our Muslim brothers and sisters what they've > had for the last 45yrs and it never hurt any christian anyway! > > Joe > > --- On *Wed, 3/31/10, Odhiambo Washington * wrote: > > > From: Odhiambo Washington > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 7:16 PM > > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:31 PM, kennedy waweru > > wrote: > >> Just a genuine and honest question to my friends muslims. We will all >> vote in the referendum and the constitution is all about making equal >> representation for all Kenyans. I have a few queries that I'd honestly like >> to hear a few answers to. Please, Let us not throw hate words at each other, >> please >> >> If the kadhi's courts were not in the constitution, how would that affect >> a muslim from practicing their faith? Is there something that specifically >> asks for their inclusion? I am asking this since then I'd see no reason why >> any specific religion should be treated different from the others. I think >> of "njuri ncheke" which is not ingrained in the constitution yet those who >> align themselves to it practice without any problem and very effectively. >> Why include kadhi's court in the constitution? >> It can't be under the disguis of minority since hindu's are fewer than >> muslims yet they still practice comfortably. What is the difference between >> kenyan muslims and those in tanzania who live without kadhi's courts >> ingrained in the constitution? >> >> > @Kennedy, > > I am not a muslim, but I'd like to answer this question anyway. > > The presence of Kadhis Court in the KE constitution has never affected me > in any way. How has it affected you? > And IIRC, "njuri ncheke" is the Meru Council of Elders. It is not a > religion. Much the same thing as the Luo Council of Elders and all the other > Council of Elders. How did you end up comparing a council of elders to a > religion? > > IMHO, Kenya will not burn just because of having the Kadhi's Courts > engraved in the constitution. Kenyans have wasted so much of their energies > in this subject, yet not a single non-Muslim Kenyan can tell how it > negatively affected them. > > We should be talking about the wastage that we will incur when we elect an > MP, s/he is appointed Minister, which then makes him/ger resign the > parliamentary seat, and we head back to the election (by-election); We > should be talking about appointments to the Civil Service having to be > ratified by parliament the US style, etc. > > Muslims waliwafanya nini? > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." > -- Lucky Dube > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! 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Christians are right to be upset about kadhi courts in the Kenyan constitution especially when the parliament passes kadhi courts just on the eve of easter holiday. Easter holiday is celebrated by all Christians around the world: Jesus was resurrected from the dead on the third day after his cruxifixion. Why can`t Kenya learn from Nigeria or Somalia where kadhi courts are the order of the day, or Sudan, for heavenly sake why is Sudan dividing now or why is Nigeria not stable almost 50 years after independence. To the coastal people who wanted a devolution of government, majimbo and were to create local governments are you now silent because they have included Kadhi courts in the constitution or what?. Where is the 3 tier of government or creation of local government for the people disappeared to?. I thought that these guys were serious that they wanted to manage their local resources to get rid of poverty. Kenyans are not seeing a head very clearly. A new constitution is good just like any new clothes or shoes bought to a kid or a person who lacked them, but after sometimes he will see the bad sides or see if the shoes are really suitable for long distance walk or leaving wounds on the leg every time he uses them?. Kenyans have also elected a group of goons as Mps, they have mouths like goose but can not decide on anything good for the country: Or is this a trick for the new constitution to be rejected and people remain with the present one?. Passing the constitution was a great thing, but passing Kadhi courts in a country dominated by christians is just an abuse to our rights, and our self determination. I can not believe that the courts which were introduced by sultan of Zanziber will still follow us after losing even people Like Dedan Kimathi, who died for our freedom so that africans can have their country back and introduce self determination and self rule. Why even bother sueing the British government over Mau mau when we still leave our people to be governed by sultan`s courts. Do Kenyans want to say that colonialism by the British was more worse than colonialism by Arabs and slavery etc. So let Kenyans be still under kadhi influences. What type of a country Kenya will be if all religions starts to demand a right of their rituals in the constitution?. And by the way what is special about kadhi Courts, what do they offer muslims which the ordinary courts do not offer?: Why are these questions constantly being ignored?. Paul Nyandoto -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 From jbatec at yahoo.com Fri Apr 2 08:48:18 2010 From: jbatec at yahoo.com (Judy Miriga) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 05:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Happy Easter to all of You People !.... 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URL: From christinebaraza at yahoo.com Fri Apr 2 10:32:02 2010 From: christinebaraza at yahoo.com (Christine Baraza) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 07:32:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] KENYANS MUST WATCH WAKO NOT TO CHANGE THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION In-Reply-To: <001e01cad226$e5aeaa60$b10bff20$@com> Message-ID: <802460.59527.qm@web113801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> The Constitution process has now reached a CRUCIAL STAGE that requires more VIGILANCE from Kenyans lest Wako inserted clauses that will totally change the spirit and the Constitution to the benefit of the people who have kept him in office since 1991. The good thing with this Constitution is that its states that all important officers like the Attorney General, Chief Justice and the Judges will have to RESIGN and new ones apointed in a competitive, open and transparent way with parliamentary approval. Given that Wako knows that he must resign once this Constitution is passed in a referendum, we mst be vigilant and watch him keenly, ? Immediately Wako gazettes this Bill, we must all make sure that we compare the Draft with the original Draft for COE. COE must also ensure that the Draft that goes to the people of Kenya is the one that they handed over to Parliament. Last year there was a case where Wako was accused by parliament of altering an Act of parliament so PEOPLE LETS BE CAREFUL WITH AMOS WAKO. To KEEP his job Wako is always READY to do anything and approve ANYTHING..Make sure that YOU COMPARE the draft from WAKO and the one COE released recently...WE MUST CONTINUE KEEPING VIGILANCE... ? ? ? --- On Fri, 4/2/10, maina ndiritu wrote: From: maina ndiritu Subject: RE: I must Salute President Kibaki - He is not a PNU Person To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 1:39 AM Aaah harry , because the president said something you like so he is now a good man and a statesman? , he is surrounded by sharks and that is how the elections were stolen ?, is he not the beneficiary of that thievery if at all it did occur ?? is he still a good statesman ? perhaps I should be saying things you like , you might brand me reasonable , in principle a good man with or without sharks ? From: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com [mailto:mlalahoi at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:55 AM To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com; Harrison Mumia N Subject: I must Salute President Kibaki - He is not a PNU Person ? ? My Friends, I come to you with Good News. A new day is born. A new moment in the history of Kenyans. The CoE Draft Constitution has been passed by parliament and now goes to the people of Kenya for a referendum. ? For the first time though, i had a chance to see Mr. Kibaki, who i ?will now call President Kibaki, displaying a side of him which i had never thought of. This was in parliament at around 8.45 PM. ? Friends, and particularly my ODM friends, Kibaki is a reasonable person after-all. He is?infarct?in principle a good man. He is an old man who was?surrounded?by PNU sharks and thats how the election was stolen. But he is possibly a statesman. Maybe he has become a little bit too old. Maybe he is? But he spoke like a statesman.? ? Kibaki told parliament that the constitution can always be?amended. He encouraged them to pass the draft. He thanked the Speaker for displaying leadership. I must applaud him on this. And he is an eloquent man, this Kibaki fellow.? ? I therefore urge all of us, from today on, lets give him support for the remaining two years, as we adopt a new constitution, which will guarantee the right of Kenyans. ? God Bless Kenya. ? -- PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE ? MANY VACANCIES: http://www.myafricancareer.net/ ? FREE CLASSIFIEDS ADS: http://bit.ly/aZbpFV ? TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR ? You are subscribed to the Google Groups "MlalaHoi" group. To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mlalahoi?hl=en -- PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE ? 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URL: From Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com Thu Apr 1 09:23:23 2010 From: Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com (Dickens Odhiambo) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:23:23 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] Who is wrecking ODM? Message-ID: > Who is wrecking ODM? > http://www.publiceyesite.org/blog/?p=9439 > > Who is wrecking ODM? > By Patrick Lumumba Opondi 03/28/2010 > To cobble and stitch together this intricate political game, we may need > to retrace our footsteps to unrelated issues. Politics is a murky area > with historical stains, some which hardly leave the scene. > In 2005 constitution referendum, a little known group of like minded > Kenyans came together to reject the unilateral amendments imposed on the > constitution by the ruling elites, the infamous Wako/Kilifi draft. > Galvanizing 58.12% of Kenyans, the orange group voted down the proposed > constitution, a humiliating defeat to president Kibaki. Soon after, the > group quickly transformed their winning team into a political party, > riding on the political tempo that had captured the nation then. > Indeed, it was just an idea whose time had arrived for Narc had become > intolerable as an influential caucus dubbed Mt Kenya group transformed > itself to a kitchen cabinet that unconstitutionally run the affairs of the > nation. By winning the referendum, Orange had passed a political test > against the incumbent and they were assured of the same support in the > general election. It was time to muscle the political scene. But by 2007, > Uhuru Kenyatta began to backtrack from the orange movement, taking with > him his Kanu support. His political career in central province was already > threatened as the tribal enclave and regionalism reared its ugly head at > his backyard. His re election was only guaranteed if he ditched ODM and he > wisely heeded the warning. He vowed to support the re-election of > President Kibaki, a man he brutally challenged in the 2002 election. > It is strange that in 2002, they had different political ideologies and > policies and now they had a unified approach almost to all issues. The > departure of Uhuru signaled the delicate attempts of the ruling elites to > regain their popularity by neutralizing the growing support that centered > on Raila Odinga. Up their sleeves was a strategy similar to one Moi > deployed on FORD in 1991, eventually disintegrating the mammoth political > party into pieces by fighting each other at the expense of their common > enemy then, Kanu. Oginga Odinga and Kenneth Njindo Matiba spent most of > their time scheming against each other, including who was to become the > official opposition leader in parliament. Moi having won the election > enjoyed the ensuing power battles between the two FORDS to his own > advantage. He had perfectly employed the divide and rule tactic, saving > him the energy of a full fledged brawl had Matiba and Odinga stayed put. > But in 2007, things were slightly different. > Even with the departure of Uhuru Kenyatta and Kalonzo's stubbornness > leading to the formation of a rival political group under the same ODM > banner provided some hope to Kibaki, this time round wanainchi stuck with > the Raila led ODM. The people's verdict was clear and ODM and its > affiliate party won a total of 102 seats compared to a paltry 78 seats won > by PNU and its amalgamated affiliates. The results for the presidential > election left many baffled, leading to protracted street battle, loss of > lives, loss of employment and earning opportunities, and unstable > government that eventually saw the formation of a coalition government > under a negotiated settlement on a 50/50 power sharing formula. The spin > doctors were at work, to scuttle ODM dreams to presidency and all tricks > in the book were deployed, including brute force. Events that succeeded > election are too grim to revisit, including the un-procedural night > ceremonies that ushered Kibaki back to the helm. > Having lost control of government and being forced to share power with ODM > was something the PNU ruling elites were not prepared for and to date, > they are less comfortable with. Having convinced Kalonzo Musyoka to > hastily join their bandwagon, an elevation the brutally battered ODM-K was > too exited to reject, PNU power brokers were all poised to keep ODM under > tight control even though they still enjoyed majority in parliament in > terms of their superior numbers. PNU operatives have spent sleepless > nights to wreck ODM, their main challenger in the 2012 general elections. > They have now concentrated in Rift valley, a region with a soft spot for > Kanu and easy to penetrate. Most legislators from this region in ODM are > Kanu's political orphans who are political confused and still searching > for direction after the demise of Kanu. Their ideals and those of their > reformist friends in ODM are walls apart, yet they find they share a > stained common political bond with PNU. It is this tattered political bond > that PNU has wittingly deployed to convince the Rift Valley Mps to troop > to their side, leaving a dilapidated ODM in terms of numerical strength. > What PNU was unable to achieve through the ballot box is now theirs > through trickery and arm-twisting, as they continue in their fight to see > a weaker ODM/ Raila before 2012. ODM must not focus on Ruto as their > enemy, a mere pawn in the game. The party is being wrecked from outside > and PDM players are behind the dirty scheme. > From Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com Thu Apr 1 16:43:19 2010 From: Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com (Dickens Odhiambo) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:43:19 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] TOSHA -: MPs pass draft constitution unamended Message-ID: > Agwambo amesema TOSHA > MPs pass draft constitution unamended > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYWpBI6bZNg&feature=channel > From Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com Thu Apr 1 16:43:32 2010 From: Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com (Dickens Odhiambo) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:43:32 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] KAMATA :- Ocampo's statement on Kenya Message-ID: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg4jxfsXT98&feature=player_embedded > > Ocampo to focus probe on only six poll chaos suspects > By BERNARD NAMUNANE > Posted Thursday, April 1 2010 at 22:30 > > The International Criminal Court may zero in on just six prime suspects > accused of planning and executing Kenya's post-election violence. > Prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo on Thursday vowed to conduct a quick, > robust, independent and impartial investigation which he hopes to conclude > by the end of the year and place his case before the judges. > He said he expected to file two cases, each involving at most three > suspects, at the end of the investigations. In an interview with Reuters > at The Hague, Mr Moreno-Ocampo said he aims to have filed the first cases > and complete confirmation hearings in those by the end of 2011, with > trials to start as early as 2012. > > > Kill and destroy > The prime suspects are accused of hiring, financing and moving gangs to > kill, destroy and block roads in order to retain or gain power. Some 1,133 > Kenyans were killed and more than 600,000 uprooted from their homes after > incumbent Mwai Kibaki, of the Party of National Unity, was declared winner > of the 2007 presidential election. > His rival, Mr Raila Odinga of the Orange Democratic Movement, rejected the > results, saying the vote had been stolen. On Thursday, the prosecutor said > he would use Kenya to set " a historic example" of preventing crimes of > mass murder and assured the public that justice was on the way. > ''Kenya will provide a historic example on how one country chose to > address and prevent massive crimes. I want to explain why all Kenyans must > work together and with the court to ensure the prevention of future > violence," he said. > The six, Mr Moreno-Ocampo said, could either be among the 20 names on his > list or some new faces if fresh evidence points to other players. "We > envision at least two cases against one to three persons in each case. We > will focus on those who, according to the evidence that will be collected > in the course of our independent investigation, are most responsible," he > said. > At the conclusion of the investigations, he said, it would be the task of > the judges and his office to decide either to issue arrest warrants or > summons suspects who will volunteer. He said the list of 20 is made up of > leaders from the Party of National Unity and Orange Democratic Movement > and businesspeople who are closely linked to the politicians. > The ICC, he said, will not ask for the suspension of suspects holding > public office nor base decisions on political affiliations. "We are not in > a political game. We are a court seeking evidence from leaders of the two > parties," he said. > Saying the investigations will incriminate some and exonerate others, he > invited leaders who suspect they are on the list to request for a hearing > from his office to explain their innocence. The rights of the suspects > will be respected, he said. > The prosecutor said he would be in Kenya next month to seek more evidence > on the roles of the 20 suspects. He also expects to meet President Kibaki > and Prime Minister Raila Odinga to get assurances of government > cooperation. > "The investigation has been authorised (by the Pre-Trial Chamber), I will > travel to Kenya in May. We must proceed promptly," he said. However, he > declined to reveal the names of the suspects, arguing that it would be > against the law to do so at this stage. > "I am committed to the law. I do justice and cannot identify people > without evidence because today (at this moment), they are innocent," he > said. He was addressing a press conference at The Hague, a day after the > three-judge bench in a majority vote, allowed him to start investigations > into the post election chaos. > In Nairobi, the Law Society of Kenya, the International Commission of > Jurists and the civil society welcomed the investigations by The Hague and > urged the prosecutor to move with speed. 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URL: From random.kenya at googlemail.com Fri Apr 2 01:07:59 2010 From: random.kenya at googlemail.com (Random Notes) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 08:07:59 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Biblical Story of Noah's Ark ---- Unanswered Questions In-Reply-To: <870AEE5CA429AE45B6FFE6F4CF7619120F85E9C32B@AA-CL-01-EX-MBX.fpt.int.org> References: <275648.74863.qm@web32807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <870AEE5CA429AE45B6FFE6F4CF7619120F85E9C32B@AA-CL-01-EX-MBX.fpt.int.org> Message-ID: @Gilbert Yours is probably the most intelligent approach and contribution to this debate, you advocate shedding light where there is darkness, knowledge instead of ignorance and what I enjoy the most is when you advice that these are many answers to the same question - none of them adequate yet and we should keep searching to close the 'ontological gap' . @Harry Your posts are thought provoking, what most surprises me is the lack of intellectual and well thought out responses from your opponents. Most of them prefer threats, ignorance and anti-intellectualism. The first and easiest defense of this tale that I expected would be that the story is allegorical and not literal. Alas! no eloquent or worthy opponent in this debate has emerged. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Gilbert muyumbu < Gilbert.muyumbu at actionaid.org> wrote: > Friends, > > Allow those few of us daring the wrath of the Unknown to say something on > this matter. And please, do not shout when responding to what is postulated > here. Argue your point rationally! > > Let me start with what you and I may agree upon before we go into what we > may not necessarily agree upon. We agree that there could be a supernatural > being regulating life on earth and keeping everything in order. Why I may be > persuaded to think so is based on two philosophical arguments postulated by > the likes of Arthur Schopenhauer; that the human mind, confined in > geographical/physical space has a mind that can only perceive what is > physical; that this mind is shaped only to observe 3-dimensional reality and > cannot authoritatively claim to know what exists in say the 4th or 5thdimension. Given this, I may be persuaded to agree that probably the > supernatural being behind order in the world resides in the 4th or 5thdimensions hidden from human perception. Argument number two and related to > one is that since the human mind has not reached the maturity to grasp all > reality in its entirety, there necessarily exists a gap of knowledge called > the ?ontological gap? into which all questions in the human mind that have > not received adequate answers are confined. This ontological gap is the dark > space where questions of existence such as who created intelligent life, how > did life come into being, are there living creatures beyond our immediate > solar system, what happens when people die etc are confined. It is probably > in this ontological gap where the supernatural being is hidden for the time > being. Initially, this ontological gap was so huge that it had questions > such as is the earth flat or spherical, questions which science, through it > apostles such as Galileo Galilee helped pull out of the gap. I am sure many > more questions still in this ontological gap will be resolved some day as > progress is made. > > > > So we agree that there is a limit to the human mind to grasp reality in its > entirety and that there exists an ontological gap in which all human puzzles > are parked for the time being as conclusive and convincing answers for them > are being sought. > > > > Now, turning to what we may not agree on. The questions of existence that > are confined to the ontological gap have confronted all humanity all over > the world at all times. Every human race has wondered ?who created > intelligent life?? ?what happens when people die?? etc. And every human race > has attempted to answer these questions. Though their answers may have been > varied, they are not substantially different. They have placed God as the > overriding answer to the questions emanating from the ontological gap. God > has been used as the standard answer to questions from the ontological gap. > Questions of death, who created life, is there life in the solar system etc > have received the same answer ? God. Yet the question to ask is, does this > answer really exhaustively provide solution to the questions? Is the human > answer of God to the questions from the ontological gap correct even if we > believed it as so for millions of years? > > > > Moving on, since every human race has grappled with questions from the > ontological gap, their answers have been subjective, based on their > subjective history and circumstances. My ancestors, for example, when > confronted with these questions answered ?Were.? A Jew when faced with the > same questions answered ?Yahweh? etc; > > > > Due to differences in advances amongst different human races, including > differences in military might, ability to write and document history etc and > knowing that the story of the conqueror is always the prevailing story over > others, the Jewish answer to the questions emanating from the ontological > gap becomes the most dominant answer to supersede all other answers from > other people, including my ancestors. If my ancestors had been world > conquerors, their answer to these questions would have been the most > dominant with the heroes of their history becoming the heroes of the world > today; the Davids, Moses, Abrahams, Isaacs and Noahs of their history would > be the heroes liberally referred to today. > > > > Historically, how does the Jewish answer to questions from the ontological > gap become the most dominant across the world? Because Christianity (part of > the Jewish answer) took over, beginning from the reign of Constantine, the > most powerful empire on earth, the Roman empire, it becomes part of the > conquering ideology. With the eventual fall of the Roman empire, the Church > takes over and using the structures and might left behind by the collapsed > empire, spreads, from around AD 200 to BC 1600, the one Jewish answer as the > single most important answer to the questions emanating from the ontological > gap. All other races, including the Europeans who later colonize Africans > inherit this Jewish answer to the questions from the ontological gap. > Africans eventually inherit this answer through colonization, call > themselves Christians and are indoctrinated to believe that their own answer > to questions from the ontological gap were inadequate. > > > > What we are contesting therefore is that one subjective answer, the JEWISH > answer and heroes of its history ? Moses, Abraham, Noah etc, cannot be the > only answer to the questions from the ontological gap. There are other > answers that are as legitimate or illegitimate as the JEWISH answer; the > African answer for instance, still remains as legitimate an answer to these > questions as the JEWISH answer. However, we need to note that all these > answers, Jewish, African etc remain not answers based on any tangible > evidence, but are mere human mind suppositions that do not adequately answer > the questions from the ontological gap. However old, elaborately documented, > numerously referred to or hugely revered Holy Books and cultures may be, > they spring from the limited human minds that are limited by the > 3-dimensional confines alluded to above. They cannot therefore > authoritatively respond to questions emanating from the ontological gap. > Their ?facts? are not based on tangible evidence and can only make sense > through belief, which as has been acknowledged, is irrational, and which as > we know, can never be the basis of interaction in a modern world. > > > > The problem then comes when one wants to impose these inadequate answers to > the rest of humanity, through superstitious threats and intolerant and > arrogant dogmatic disclaimers such as ?you will be mad if you question God? > or ?a fool says there is no God? etc aimed at intimidating into silence > those questioning the basis of these inadequate answers. The problem also is > when these inadequate answers are cast in stone and remain unchanged even > with the evidence afforded us by science, a human development that is slowly > reducing the space previously occupied by the ontological gap. > > In conclusion then, we must say that the JEWISH answer to questions of > existence, origin of life etc, whether elaborated colorfully through the Old > Testament or improved upon in the New Testament, is neither adequate nor the > only answer to these questions. Therefore the Holy Book arising out of > Jewish history is just a human supposition to the questions of existence and > cannot be taken to be the exhaustive answer to these questions. > > > > Some word of advice to our colleagues, please, do not rush to muzzle people > using the Bible whenever they put across questions of existence; it is an > inadequate answer and it is in competition with other equally inadequate > answers. What you and I who live in the 21st Century should be doing to > improve the lot of humanity is to seek adequate answers to those questions. > Join the likes of Galileo (who questioned the prevalent notion that the > earth is flat), Charles Darwin (who questioned the idea that life began with > Adam and Eve), Copernicus et al in looking for these answers and in reducing > the space occupied by the ontological gap instead of always rushing to the > Bible as reference material for these questions. This is an anachronistic > practice that belongs to the 18th Century amongst progressive societies. > > > > Muyumbu > > > > *From:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com [mailto: > youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Ouko > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 30, 2010 2:15 AM > > *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [YP_Ke] Biblical Story of Noah's Ark ---- Unanswered > Questions > > > > I think what u fail to understand is that God operates outside the realm of > time and space. While science only attempts to explore and explain the > natural phenomena, it has no pretence to posses the tools to even begin to > understand the supernatural. > > > > May I also remind you that for a good reason, thechristian faith is > anchored on faith and not knowledge. This is why every time they asked Jesus > for a miracle, he always asked them, "Do you belive?" This is simply because > He who knows the end from the begining only gives us enough information so > as to believe since he understands that faith is prejudice. > > Martin Ouko > > Sent from my iPod > > > On Mar 29, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Gilbert muyumbu < > Gilbert.muyumbu at actionaid.org> wrote: > > Hello Harry, > > I find your questions relevant and interesting but I got answers for them > way back in my first year class at KU way back in 1997 through a course > called Introduction to Philosophy by one Prof. Kenneth Wambari. We still > hold onto these Grand Old Narratives tightly because we have refused to > engage in one aspect of that course called Critical Thinking. I would also > refer you to the writings of Philip Ochieng of Sunday Nation. > > > > Muyumbu > > > > *From:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com [mailto: > youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Harry > *Sent:* Monday, March 29, 2010 12:06 PM > *To:* mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com; > Harrison Mumia N > *Subject:* [YP_Ke] Biblical Story of Noah's Ark ---- Unanswered Questions > > > > Like me or hate me, it doesn't really bother me. So my religious brethren > s, the story of Noah's Ark elicits more questions than answers in the Bible. > As i continue to interrogate the Bible, my hope is that as Africans, we > shall eventually see that the colonial masters duped us into embracing > religion blindly. > > > > 1. God saw how great wickedness had become and decided to wipe mankind > from the face of the earth. This doesn't make sense. *Wipe the whole of > earth because of a few sinners?* > 2. God also instructed Noah to bring into the ark two of *all living > creatures*, male and female, along with every kind of food to be stored > as food for the animals and his family while on the ark. Noah obeyed > everything God commanded him to do. -- Is this practical? *How does one > bring all animals on earth and food to store in some wooden ark? How does > one manage this feat!!* > 3. After they entered the ark, rain fell on the earth for a period of > forty days and nights. The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty > days, and every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out. *What??! > Picture this...how does it rain across the entire globe? And if i was in > Africa at that time, surely why should God punish me for some sins committed > in Israel?!** * > 4. Later God established a covenant with Noah: "Never again will there > be a flood to destroy the earth." As a sign of this everlasting covenant God > set a rainbow in the clouds. *What??!! 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You should have your principles. You say you > are single and you have 2 children those are too may mistakes already > do you want to make another one? > > Thing deep please. > > Martin > > > Best Regards > > Josephine Kamanthe > > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > -- > "There is some self-interest behind every friendship.There is no > Friendship without self-interests. This is a bitter truth". > "Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC-275 > BC) > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark > your favourite sites. Download it now! > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > > > Kuria-Mwangi Apr 01 11:34AM -0400 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > Rose, > Avoid your boss and heathens like Jectone. I think you got very good > advise > from folks you although you sounded like one almost getting tempted and > falling. You need to take with you the rosary and ice packs to work in > order > to avoid falling into temptation. > Kuria > > -- > http://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.com > http://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi > > > > > liz maina Apr 01 11:12AM -0700 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > that is not a question you are asking, what then do you mean by you are > saved? are you there to break people's homes so as you can gain. get to know > it will not last as long as that woman is crying even if it is just from > within her heart, you will not benefit from what you get from that man but > instead you will bring a curse to yourself and to your children just because > of that. SO THINK TWICE. can you please stop being an assander where two > have already been joined. PRAY to GOD and he will give you your provider ,or > have you lost you faith? > --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Roselida Opiyo wrote: > > > From: Roselida Opiyo > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] RE: My Boss Eying on Me. > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 4:15 AM > > > > > > > > Janerose, > > I don?t understand this statement ?and have already stated dated me?. > Are you dating or not? Who is determining that you are dating or not? > > Anyway ?when the student is ready the teacher will appear?. If you are > ready for the kind of man you say you want then he will appear. If you are > dating this married man/boss then the man you want will not appear; you are > not ready. And if he does appear you will not notice him because you are > busy. > > So now what? > > P.S. we cannot tell you what to do or not do, you are a grown woman and > besides you will do exactly as you want despite of our advice. Question you > should be asking YOURSELF is ?What do I want to do about this situation > right NOW?? and go for it RESPONSIBLY. Ohh and whatever you choose is fine > just know that they both have consequences, choose wisely? > > > > > From: Anne kondo > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 1:02:30 PM > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] RE: My Boss Eying on Me. > > My friend dont,The day this man will have it all,you will lose your job > and dignity.You said your saved,then why a married man.Dont cheat your > God.My friend God will give you a good man at the right time.God bless you. > > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Jane Rose > wrote: > > Hi YPs, > My boss is eying on me and have already stated dated me. Am fearing him > because he is a married and older than me. If i let him down, i might lose > my job. Am a single mother of 2 who needs someone to assist me financially. > He have offered himself to hep in raising my children. I am a saved woman > What do i do now? Do i take or refuse his offer? > > > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > > > > > joseph nyongesa Apr 01 10:12PM +0300 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > Take the offer my dear... > Just make sure the he makes it official that you are his second wife > under > the cultural marriages act. > > > > > lucille kim Apr 01 12:15PM -0700 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > Hi Jane, > > Your situation at first when i read it, i thought to myselfl, how? but > after some thought, i realised you were bold enough to say it out as it > is, which was brave of you and I hope since your asking for advise, u > know that you really need it and offcoure your going to make necessary > changes. > > > > for one, the whole situation is wrong, yes you have children and yes > they have needs and yes you have needs too. Who said that if you dont > give in, he will fire you?? You say you are saved, saved by what? If > you know for sure the real meaning of being saved, then you wil know > that you need to commit all your situations to God, sometimes things > will be thick, but God will always come through, being saved means, in > John 10:10 "The thief comes to steal, kill and destroy. but Jesus came > that you may have life in fullness and abundantly" > > > > Remember that, when it comes to being saved, there should be no > compromise whatsoever, why? because despite your situation, God will > will definately see you through, you need to believe in order to > receive, thats how it works in Gods economy, because what great vission > you have, God will toss it beyond the situation. Remember you love your > children dearly but we are also Gods children and He would never > compromise any situation for us. > > > > make a stand, a decision and stand by it for in every decision you make > there are consequences. God bless > > > > lucy > > > > > joseph kenneth Apr 01 08:03PM -0700 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > This is very seroius, suppose this man likes you but for how long.In > this eror of aids even if you were to use a condom again for how long you > can not use a condom with the same person for more than three times belive > you will be sleeping with every week i give you 2 months anda you will stop > condomising and thus exposing yourself to thrrisks of A.I.D.S.is real > think about your two children who will take care of of them when u die of > AIDS.Heri wale sumkuma na waishi rather than wale maini kwa siku kidogo na > wabaki mayatima. if it money joint microfinance n start a bizna hata kuuza > uji na mandazi kazini. > My sixth sense tell me this man has AIDS . > On the professional side of it mukijakosana you will loose your job > that day which is highly probable. > Otherwise good luck n stay safe. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jusper Ochieng > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 5:57:09 PM > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] RE: My Boss Eying on Me. > > > Swit,dnt n never give in.Where is the father or fathers of those whos > fathered yah kids?This guy isn't different from them,jst wnts to get between > yah legs then he shoots.Also figure it out another lady doing this to > you,how will you feel?So dear sober up.May the good Lord guide you.AMEN. > > > > >Next, he being married is a no go zone - he aint worth it.... > >Keep your faith. > > >Regards > > ________________________________ > From: Martin Opondo Obwar > >>Josephine Kamanthe > >>Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > >>To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > > ________________________________ > > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour > by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French > In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & > Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning > Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 > 663 208 > > > > Topic: Kadhi's courts > > ALEX NGANGA Apr 01 08:01AM -0700 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > Kadhis court has no significant effect and need not to be an issue. > Kadhis court deals with customary issues of Muslim community and has not > been a problem in the past. Why do anybody think it is a problem now. After > all this is a subordinate court that does not deal with national issue. What > is everybody's problem guys?? Crimimals are taken to other courts be it > Muslim or Christian. > > For Christian, we do not need even to know where the Kadhis court > operate from. > If you want to know what a Christian Court is, it the entire Court > apart from kadhis Court. So let Muslims continue to have their court. At > least we cannot go to their court, but they can come to us for national > matters e.g. introducing an religious part like "IPK" Christian court > determines that? Do not be ignorant about constitution and NCCK is > misleading Kenya bwana, si watu msome na muelewe, no wonder kila Mkenya > amekuwa "Mavi ya kuku" > > --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Maina Muthee wrote: > > > From: Maina Muthee > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 7:46 AM > > > That is not important my friend. Christianity was here long time too. > That does not make any sence my friend. > > > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Alinoor Moulid < > alinoor.moulid at gmail.com> wrote: > > > To All Anti-Kadhi Courts, > > I am a muslim and am proud believer. Whether you like it or not, the > court would be in the constitution. It was before you were born, it will be > when you are dead! Period! > > Or by the way, Go and ask the historians the essence of Kadhi courts in > Kenya. Then you can understand why you are using Mombassa port to offload > your cargo from the world. No ill heart! > > > > > > On 1 April 2010 14:56, Doreen Mutyota wrote: > > > > > > > I > > I am glad i will be able to vote a no. > > Reasons. > > 1. Why is nobody giving a rulling to the case against Kadhis court.. > Six years down the line. > > 2. Why should the state fund for a religious orgaisation. > > Its clear and there is no doubt that this is more than just that. I > am glad NCCK is taking this head on. VOTING YES IS BOWING DOWN TO ALLAH.. AS > FOR ME AND MY HOUSE WE WILL WORSHIP THE LIVING GOD. > > > > > > Ndinda Mutyota > " Do not doubt in darkness what the Lord told you in the light" > > --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Sally Malinda wrote: > > > From: Sally Malinda > > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 4:01 AM > > > > > > > > > Well, am very ready to continue 'shouting' if this is what is going to > save us from religious anarchy to evolve soon or later if we start giving > one religion precedence in a constitution meant to treat all religions as > equals!!!! > > > Christians will shoot the draft down. Period! > > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Odhiambo Washington < > odhiambo at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Sally Malinda > wrote: > > > I say NO to Kadhis courts. Here is my argument: > > A story is told of how a 'good Samaritan' sheltered a camel that was > being rained on. He allowed it to shelter its head, but the camel slowly by > slowly pushed the rest of its body in the house! and getting out was a > disaster! > > > > > That happens even without having Muslims/Islam! A fellow Christian > would easily do that to you. How many Christians have had their lands > grabbed by their own brothers/sisters/fellow Christians. Your story has no > bearing to the Kadhis courts. > > > > > > Somalia, Sudan, Nigeria, should be a classic example of this tale. > Also, I would like to ask all Christian's arguing that Kadhi courts do not > affect them - HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE FAMOUS ABUJA DECLARATION? It's agenda is > to Islamise Africa by 2020. > > > And I ask: So what? If Muslims want to Islamise Africa, they can go > right ahead. Africa is not Kenya alone. > > > > How do you think they intend to do that? Are you gonna wait to find a > Mosque erected outside your house to realise how serious this issue is? > > > We already have Mosques in our neighborhoods, don't we? How do you > think the Muslims feel with all the "churches" mushrooming in their > neighborhoods? Stop looking at just one side!:-) > > > > > > Are you aware that they have an agenda to push for a Muslim President? > > > Well, haven't they been ruled by Christian Presidents as well? Or even > Hindu/Jewish Presidents???? > > > > > > Do you know why they are hell crazy buying property right-left and > center? > > > Because the system is condoning it. Period. They are not grabbing, but > buying. > > > > > > did you recently see a story in news when a section of Muslims were > calling for the autonomy of Mombasa as a protectorate? Have you not seen > that word 'protectorate' in the current draft in relation to Muslim issues? > There is also the clause in Bill of Rights applicable to all but exempting > 'people professing Muslim faith' WHY....WHY..WHY.......wake up people and > see the catch in all these 'seemingly harmless' tell- tell signs of an > agenda not so harmless. > > > > Please show us where this is? Which page of the draft? And what does it > have to do with the Kadhis courts? > > > > > > If you argue they are a minority and need to be protected, what should > we say of Hindu? Traditionists? aetheists? should they also not be given > religious courts? > > > You lost focus of the subject! Kadhis courts have nothing to do with > minority tribes/races/groups. > > > > > > > > I may not be a student of former President Moi in many ways, but once > he told us to be like Giraffes ' See Far!' It is time we wake up and see far > regarding Kadhi courts. Do you want Kenya to be divided on religious lines > 20 years from now? If yes, vote for the draft, if not, lets press for the > right thing, equality of all religions. > > Let me also remind you that the recent Al Faisal saga should have been > a wake up call to those who cannot see the games being played by Muslims > behind the scenes. Let them not think Christians are asleep. > > > > Sally, sorry to say, but I personally feel you just came out shouting, > not reasoning on the subject that is. > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." > -- Lucky Dube > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > > > angaluki at aol.com Apr 01 06:21PM -0400 ^ <#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > People, > > For those of you opposed to inclusion of Kadhi's courts in our > constitution, can you give us better, honest, objective reasons? I'm sick > and tired of fallacies of irrelevance. What have circumstances in Iraq got > to do with a Kenyan constitution? Don't we have stable, democratic > predominantly Muslim countries? Are we not going to have a constitution in > Kenya because there is a civil war in Czechoslovakia? Somalia, Sudan, > Nigeria... How about Rwanda, Burundi, Angola, Mozambique, DRC, Bosnia, > Nicaragua, Honduras, Ecuador... Where is Islam in all these? And this camel > has been waiting since before 1963 to throw the owners out of the tent? For > those of you seeking to sweep Kadhi's courts aside by equating them to njuri > ncheke, what you don't realize is that, in fact, njuri ncheke, like all > Kenyan African customary systems, is covered in the constitution under > African customary law, and its rulings have the force of law (see Umira > Kager -vs- Wambui Otieno for a high court ruling that defers to Luo African > customs). Muslims need special accommodation in our constitution, not > because they are different, but because their equivalent of njuri ncheke is > not catered for under our civil law. I as a Quaker do not need special > accommodation in the constitution because that constitution is based on > Christian values and my needs are fully covered. Let's put religious bigotry > aside, be fair, honest and objective, and engage our Muslim brothers and > sisters on their need for Kadhi's courts in our constitution, rather than > try decide for them on issues that most of us obviously don't understand. > > A. Muaka > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Kimani > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Sent: Thu, Apr 1, 2010 9:43 am > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts > > > > > > Thanks to Sally and all who see this plain truth as it is. > As much as the various sects of Christianity at times do not agree on > various issues, i guess it is time they all agreed that Kadhi's Courts > should not be in the constitution. And this should be the heartfelt campaign > for every patriotic Kenyan even the Moslems themselves. > Watch Iraq; it's "brother" against "brother", with continous unmatched > human caused death records in recent history. So they say USA invaded and > caused instability...? Uncalled for! But we know what was happening to the > Iraqi Kurds in Husseins regime."Brother" to "brother" > Somalia is another classic example. Mainly(if not fully) Islamic, but > perpetually inhabitable. Where is the peace they preach. > Saudi Arabia (strictly Islamic) is the modern day history in the making > of slavery. > In Kenya, there have been spiritual / religous leaders being on the > "wanted list" by police and when some if any of their followers tried some > demos, they did not go the scale the Faisal demos went. So do we get double > communication from Moslem leaders? The press statements are surely different > from what we see. Which leaves one wondering if there are not two ways of > telling the people "the truth" - one thing to the public and the other to > the followers. > Kenyans, pray, pray,& vote wisely. > All Kenyans need to be very watchful > > --- On Thu, 1/4/10, Sally Malinda wrote: > > > From: Sally Malinda > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Date: Thursday, 1 April, 2010, 4:46 > > > I say NO to Kadhis courts. Here is my argument: > > A story is told of how a 'good Samaritan' sheltered a camel that was > being rained on. He allowed it to shelter its head, but the camel slowly by > slowly pushed the rest of its body in the house! and getting out was a > disaster! > > > Somalia, Sudan, Nigeria, should be a classic example of this tale. > Also, I would like to ask all Christian's arguing that Kadhi courts do not > affect them - HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE FAMOUS ABUJA DECLARATION? It's agenda is > to Islamise Africa by 2020. How do you think they intend to do that? Are you > gonna wait to find a Mosque erected outside your house to realise how > serious this issue is? Are you aware that they have an agenda to push for a > Muslim President? Do you know why they are hell crazy buying property > right-left and center? did you recently see a story in news when a section > of Muslims were calling for the autonomy of Mombasa as a protectorate? Have > you not seen that word 'protectorate' in the current draft in relation to > Muslim issues? There is also the clause in Bill of Rights applicable to all > but exempting 'people professing Muslim faith' WHY....WHY..WHY.......wake up > people and see the catch in all these 'seemingly harmless' tell- tell signs > of an agenda not so harmless. > > > If you argue they are a minority and need to be protected, what should > we say of Hindu? Traditionists? aetheists? should they also not be given > religious courts? > > > I may not be a student of former President Moi in many ways, but once > he told us to be like Giraffes ' See Far!' It is time we wake up and see far > regarding Kadhi courts. Do you want Kenya to be divided on religious lines > 20 years from now? If yes, vote for the draft, if not, lets press for the > right thing, equality of all religions. > > Let me also remind you that the recent Al Faisal saga should have been > a wake up call to those who cannot see the games being played by Muslims > behind the scenes. Let them not think Christians are asleep. > > > ALL RELIGIONS SHOULD BE TREATED EQUAL. PERIOD. > > > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Munene M. Anne > wrote: > > > All Faith should be given the same rights > > > From: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com [mailto: > youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Githinji > Sent: 01 April 2010 07:16 > > > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts > > > > > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Washington. And in any case, if the NCCK insists that > they'll marshall their flock not to vote for the draft coz of that...well, > they'll have lost anyway coz we'll be stuck with the current constitution > that has Kadhi courts. Let's not deny our Muslim brothers and sisters what > they've had for the last 45yrs and it never hurt any christian anyway! > > > > Joe > > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > From: Odhiambo Washington > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 7:16 PM > > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:31 PM, kennedy waweru > wrote: > > Just a genuine and honest question to my friends muslims. We will all > vote in the referendum and the constitution is all about making equal > representation for all Kenyans. I have a few queries that I'd honestly like > to hear a few answers to. Please, Let us not throw hate words at each other, > please > > If the kadhi's courts were not in the constitution, how would that > affect a muslim from practicing their faith? Is there something that > specifically asks for their inclusion? I am asking this since then I'd see > no reason why any specific religion should be treated different from the > others. I think of "njuri ncheke" which is not ingrained in the constitution > yet those who align themselves to it practice without any problem and very > effectively. Why include kadhi's court in the constitution? > It can't be under the disguis of minority since hindu's are fewer than > muslims yet they still practice comfortably. What is the difference between > kenyan muslims and those in tanzania who live without kadhi's courts > ingrained in the constitution? > > > > > > > @Kennedy, > > > > I am not a muslim, but I'd like to answer this question anyway. > > > > The presence of Kadhis Court in the KE constitution has never affected > me in any way. How has it affected you? > > And IIRC, "njuri ncheke" is the Meru Council of Elders. It is not a > religion. Much the same thing as the Luo Council of Elders and all the other > Council of Elders. How did you end up comparing a council of elders to a > religion? > > > > IMHO, Kenya will not burn just because of having the Kadhi's Courts > engraved in the constitution. Kenyans have wasted so much of their energies > in this subject, yet not a single non-Muslim Kenyan can tell how it > negatively affected them. > > > > > We should be talking about the wastage that we will incur when we elect > an MP, s/he is appointed Minister, which then makes him/ger resign the > parliamentary seat, and we head back to the election (by-election); We > should be talking about appointments to the Civil Service having to be > ratified by parliament the US style, etc. > > > > Muslims waliwafanya nini? > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." > -- Lucky Dube > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! 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Apr 01 07:04PM +0300 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > Doreen, > > I am sorry but this is the most idiotic post ( I was tempted to call > it reasoning but there is clearly none reflected in it) I have come > across this month, and believe it, I have come across several. > > Do you realise that bu voting NO against the draft constitution you > shall remain with the old one - WHICH ALSO HAS A PROVISION FOR THE > KADHI COURTS? > > So you vote NO against all the other good provisions in the draft just > because of a clause which shall still be there in the current > constitution you would possible revert to. But then I suspect the only > thing you know about the draft constitution is the Kadhi Courts. > > I pity your house. > > Great Easter everybody. > > > > -- > www.lg.co.ke > LG's Law - it's the law, stupid! > > > > Topic: Memories of the KANU Juu na juu days > > Kuria-Mwangi Apr 01 10:33PM -0400 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > Chief NKunda wrote: > Askofu, Ndungata, Papaf and Mil did you carry a Kanu Voters card and > Membership lest you be labeled a rebel and a McCarthy hearing > commenced to send you to Opiyo. It has come that the orange shirt must > be won failure will have consequences. > > > Of course yes and was a must after being suspended from Campus and > facing that local chief. Ours was a mean dark huge fellow who had an > appropriate name, Kiiru (dark) wa Gathithiri. He didnt care what else > you had with you but a KANU membership card was a must. > > One time I was walking by the Chief's post near Kirigiti Stadium in > Kiambu and heard askari Kanga blow the whistle. I kept walking but was > seeing everybody stand, even akina mama carrying firewood. All of > sudden I saw two policemen (admn) run after me. I stopped and started > to pee by the road side. One held my trousers at the back and told me > "maliza twende". I asked wapi? He told me "kwa mamako". I felt > insulted but kept on asking him what I did. He told me, kwani hiyo > filimbi ilikuwa wasukisha blanketi ya mamako? > > I then knew that i failed to stand attention for the flag lowering > ceremony. Inside the station, i told them I didnt know what was going > and flashed my University ID. That made things worse. Was asked for > KANU membership. Thanks God I had it and was in Kiambu taking > pictures (was heading to Kiambu high school). Then I lied that I was > related to Kuria Kanyingi. That first name saved me. The thug had just > fallen Dr. Karanja after calling him Nyang'au. I left after parting > with kafifty. good money then. > > Did you know that Kirigiti stands for Cricket? What were africans up > to playing Cricket in Kiambu? > Next time we will talk about Waitina (of the **insult**/butt) which is > just a corruption of the name Whitaker. > Kuria > -- > > cookie wrote: > i had the yellow KANU membership card. it was a must if you wanted to > eat. i wish i still had it. > my dad loathed the fact he had to keep it lest he become outlawed > I was too young for any membership > http://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.com > http://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi > > > > Topic: Biblical Story of Noah's Ark ---- Unanswered Questions > > Solomon Njathi Apr 01 04:12PM -0700 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > Listen to what *Charles Kingsley*, (12 June 1819 ? 23 January 1875) > Canon > of the Church of England, university professor,historian, and novelist > had > to say about religion. > > *"We have used the Bible as if it were a mere special constable's hand > book, > an opium dose for keeping beasts of burden patient while they were > being > overloaded, a mere book to keep the poor in order"* > ** > Thats why anytime you question religion the masses will lash out on you > coz > what you are in essence questioning is their choice in life. > > To put it in *Karl Marx's* words*..."To call on them to give up their > illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a > condition > that requires illusions.The criticism of religion is, therefore, in > embryo, > the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo"* > > > > > Topic: God and time > > "maina ndiritu" Apr 02 01:49AM +0300 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > It is completely natural to think of people who believed in ghosts as > ignorant , the scientific point of view has completely wiped out any > other > view to a point where they all seem primitive , so that if a person > today > talks about ghosts or spirits he is considered ignorant or maybe nutty, > it > is all but completely impossible to imagine a world where ghosts can > actually exist > > My own opinion is that the intellect of modern man isn't that superior > , > IQ`s are not that much different , the natives or medieval men were > just as > intelligent as we are , but the context in which they thought was > completely > different , within that concept of thought , ghosts and spirits are > quite > as real as atoms, particles, photons and quants are to modern man , in > that > sense I believe in ghosts , modern man has his ghosts and spirits too > > > > The laws of physics and logic . the number system . the principle of > algebraic substitution , these are ghosts , we just believe in them so > thoroughly they seem real > > For example , it seems completely natural to presume that gravitation > and > the laws of gravitation existed before Isaac Newton , it would be > madness > to think that until the seventeenth century there was no gravity > > So when did this law start ? has it always existed ? before the > beginning of > the earth , before the sun and the stars were formed , before the > primal > generation of anything , did the law of gravity exist ? > > Sitting there, having no mass of its own , no energy of its own , not > on > anybody's mind because there wasn't anyone , not in space either > because > there was no space , not anywhere -did this law of gravity exist ? > > Seems to me that it has passed all tests there are to prove that it is > nonexistent , you cannot think of a single attribute of nonexistent > that the > law of gravity does not have , or a single scientific attribute of > existence > it has , yet it is still common sense to believe that it existed > > > > The only possible , rational , intelligent conclusion would be that the > law > of gravity and gravity itself did NOT exist before Isaac Newton , no > other > conclusion makes sense , and what that means is that that law of > gravity > exists nowhere except in people's heads , it's a ghost , it's all in > the > mind , then again , mind has no matter , no energy of its own but we > can't > escape its predominance in everything we do , logic exists only In the > mind > , numbers exist only in the mind > > Laws of nature are human inventions , like ghosts ,laws of logic , of > mathematics are also human inventions , like ghosts , the whole bloody > thing is a human invention including the idea that it isn't a human > invention , the world has no existence whatsoever outside the human > imagination , it is all a ghost , it is run by ghosts , we see what we > see > because the ghosts show it to us , ghosts of Moses ,Christ and the > Buddha > and Plato, Descartes , Rousseau, Jefferson, Lincoln and so on , Isaac > Newton is a very good ghost , one of the best > > Your common sense is nothing more than the voices of countless ghosts > from > the past > > > > Would this be any different with God and time ? > > > > Topic: Brooklyn is hunting for a HUBBY....... > > Terri Apr 01 09:24AM -0700 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > This forum is getting juicier and jucier...It had been a while since I > was here! Nice stuff going on...lol a nice break of the ice from the > official stuff! > > > > > > mauricejoduor at yahoo.ca Apr 01 10:48PM ^ <#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > I have met someone on this forum someone I hope to have future with She > is such delight to talk to > > Courage > Maurice > > Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kuria-Mwangi > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:40:57 > To: > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Brooklyn is hunting for a HUBBY....... > > Maurice, > I had assumed you are MBA (married but available). Let us know how the > CV > went hoping that > you will not end up having a goal displacement where you will declare > hata > Maurice tosha:) > > > Best Regards > > Josephine Kamanthe > > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > -- > http://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.com > http://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > > > > Topic: Chartered Flights to Dar esalaam > > Shadi Apr 01 07:35PM +0300 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > Try safarilink at wilson > > -----Original Message----- > From: WINFRED NYAMBURA > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:14 > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Chartered Flights to Dar esalaam > > Wanjiru > Try Boskovic, Phoenix, Air Kenya. For now Phoenix looks a bit cheaper > than the rest. Boskys are good, have used them before, they are wide > travelled thu they are slightly higher than Phoenix. I intend to Use phoenix > for the first time in May..... so no experience. > > From: Maryann Wanjiru > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 10:08:23 AM > Subject: [YP_Ke] Chartered Flights to Dar esalaam > > Dear All, > > Does anyone know of any Chartered flights from Nairobi OR Mombasa OR > Malindi to Dar esalaam? > > Please inbox me. thanks > > Wanjiru > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > > [The entire original message is not included] > > > > Topic: Martha Kaura - Be sane! > > "maina ndiritu" Apr 02 12:15AM +0300 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > If you have nothing to say , it is always best not to say anything sang > , > what the truth is.. nobody here knows , all we have is conjecture and > accusations have no meaning unless we can get farther with it , > accusations > will go on for the next two years , yet there is nothing anybody can do > , > unfortunately kibaki remains the president , so what else is new ? > > > > From: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > [mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sang kip > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 5:48 PM > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - Be sane! > > > > MUIGAI: > > One Emilio Reclusive Kibaki had himself declared the winner of 2007 > election > and got sworn in darkness.He then appointed his own tribe to all key > government positions. > > The big-eyed Karua expected to be appointed deputy PM but when it never > happened she resigned as a minister and she is trying to endear himself > to > baba. > > Even babies know Kibaki never won and the sane have no arguments about > that. > > > > _____ > > From: RENOLDS CHEPTUMO > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 9:26:23 AM > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - "ODM Bullied their way to > power" > > Muigai, > > > > What happened was that Kibaki stole the votes and swore himself in at > night, > and after that people lost lives and property, that is what went wrong > if > you never knew. I do not understand why people want to run away from > the > truth when we still have IDPs, why do you want it to be past tense when > its > not yet over? > > > > Cheptumo. > > > > _____ > > From: musa muigai > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 4:47:40 PM > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - "ODM Bullied their way to > power" > > Dear all, > Other than voting whoever you voted, i am sure we cannot tell exactly > what > happened there after.All i know is something went wrong somewhere > period. > Lets avoid unnecessary talks,that is past tense lets work towards > building a > better tomorrow. Ok my dear Kenyans? > God bless. > Moses > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Shadrack Kirunga > wrote: > > Guys, this is the wrong place for this debate because all of us have > secondary information. From what we are seeing in the petitions, there > was > massive rigging in the elections from all sides. We simply cant tell > who > won, including the MPs who sit in parliament today. Can we leave this > debate > and move on please? > > >>> Emillio Karega 4/1/2010 3:08 PM >>> > > > Harry, > Facts are facts. Kibaki won the election according to the Constitution > and > Laws of Kenya. Any other claim is bogus, emotional and delusional. > Karua has > been Karua; she has stuck to facts and as someone said "facts are > sacred." > why did some members of ODM claim that Raila NEVER won the Presidential > Election? > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:08 PM, isaiah githinji > wrote: > > > Harry, > Just to get a balanced view on this issue, please educate me. > 1. Was the allegation from Isaac Ruto in a public rally that ODM never > won > the election true? > 2. What were the recommendations and report of Kriegler commission. > > 3. There were areas that reported over 90% voter turn out. Do you > believe in > over 90% turnout in an election? > > > --- On Thu, 4/1/10, jane maurine gati wrote: > > > From: jane maurine gati > Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - "ODM Bullied their way to power" > To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com > Cc: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com, "Harrison Mumia N" > > Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 12:09 AM > > Harry, > "Wembe ni ule ule Error! Filename not specified." > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Harry > wrote: > > Dear All, > > Fortunately for where i work, there is a TV on 6th floor and i got a > chance > to go to the TV room and catch up with Parliamentary Proceedings of > yesterday. > > > > One thing that captured my attention is when Isaac Ruto, the fiery > Chepalungu MP stood up to state that PNU stole the elections. This was > during the debate on devolution, tabled by Orengo. > > > > Well, just to update you, and it was also shown on KTN prime at 9, > Martha > Karua stood on a point of order and asked the chair whether it was in > order > for the Chepalungu MP to suggest this when he had said that Kibaki won > the > elections in a public rally. She also said that ODM bullied their way > to > power. > > > > Has Martha Karua really changed? She still believes PNU won fair and > Square? > She still feels we needed to go to court? After Justice Evans Gicheru > swore > in the president? Has she really changed since resigning as Justice > Minister? > > > > I doubt!! > > > > -- > PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE > > VACANCIES: http://www.myafricancareer.net/ > http://www.facebook.com/myafricancareer > > FREE CLASSIFIEDS ADS: http://bit.ly/aZbpFV > > TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR > > SHOP ONLINE AND GET DOOR DELIVERY: http://bit.ly/cwzi78 > > You are subscribed to the Google Groups "MlalaHoi" group. > To unsubscribe from this group, Email > mlalahoi+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/mlalahoi?hl=en > > > > > -- > Jane Maurine > +254725729020 > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour > by Jim > Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda > Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, > Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by > Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French > In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & > Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning > Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 > 663 > 208 > > > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour > by Jim > Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda > Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, > Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by > Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French > In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & > Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning > Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 > 663 > 208 > > > > Topic: Papa Likondi is a brain behind the MASK/ let us test his IQ. > > "Paul Nyandoto" Apr 01 08:55PM +0300 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > > > > > Odhiambo Washington Apr 01 11:01PM +0300 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Paul Nyandoto >wrote: > > Papa Likondi must be Makmende!! Be very wary of him. > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." > -- Lucky Dube > > > > Topic: Constitution > > DAVID mburu Apr 01 04:41PM ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > We ve been praying as a Church that this documents fails. Just watch > what will happen. > > We prayed that God scuttles this process and God doesn t need majority > to do it because there are things the Church will not pass--kadhis courts > and abortion issues must be addressed first. > > DK > > > > Topic: April Fools Day - Were You Pranked? - I was! > > Gichuru Apr 01 06:17PM +0300 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > Dan, > I hope so too. I hope yours was a genuine case. Mine was a clean one, > a prank which was confirmed immediately. The funny thing that person > read my ranting and called me to let me know how they're having a > bomb! He he he. Sawa tu > > > -- > Gichuru > > > > > "Maryleen" Apr 01 06:56PM -1200 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > My friend calls me with some secrecy to her desk and tells me..."you > see the day I asked for an off duty in the afternoon, I had been invited for > an interview. Please brace yourself coz I got the job!" So i went like on > my! where? She goes ahead, this time with a glint of glitter in her eyes and > it becomes more real to me.." brace yourself some more coz when I tell you, > you will try to be as close to me as possible - ICRAF! We are going for the > orientation on Tuesday so I need to ask for a day off!" > > I went on and on about how I was oh so happy for her and since we are > in Thika a few questions went through my mind but I only managed to ask the > "how much" question. Since I know her current figure she simply said ..say > current times two and a half! My eyes widened Tom (and Jerry) design. > > It was only after I sat back at my desk that I knew the kind of person > my colleague is she would be so unsettled already with intense plans! I > drafted a short email to her. It did the tricks she laughed on end! I was > pranked and I had promised myself I wouldnt believe anything until > afternoon! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dan Nyutu > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:30 AM > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] April Fools Day - Were You Pranked? - I was! > > > Gichuru, > > Me-en! Dont make me believe i lost some cash today morning. > > I helped out a friend who needed to go to hospital but was broke. > > Just hoping it wasnt a prank too. > > Dan > > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Gichuru > wrote: > > Yes I was. I am still pinching myself to believe. I have been in > denial, I want to believe it was a dream. But it was not. It happened. And > it happened so fast. In a flash, and I was pranked, duped and left for dead. > I could not imagine it had just happened to me. Why me?, oh well, the day is > ending and looking back, I want to laugh at myself so hard. > > The announcer in the radio station I was listening to in the jam kept > on hammering the point, "today is April fools day". Then in the news on the > same station, they gave this news item about how some Kenyan players are > going for trials at Arsenal. I almost shouted in the car, "go tell that to > the mountains or be smarter next time". Along the corridors in the office, > colleagues kept shouting, "April fools day!" as if someone had paid them to > remind them, lest they were pranked. > > I arrive in my desk and as I settle down, my phone rings. It is a > message. It is from a YP (name witheld). "Please send me some credit, i am > in a jam and want to make some calls". I checked my balance. I had credit. I > scrolled to Safaricom menu, to Sambaza and sent this dear friend some > credit, lest there's an emergency and the blame is heaped on me later. The > good Christian I am even spent some more money. I followed the sambaza > transaction with a message, "I hope that helps". > > The reply came almost immediately. It had to, there was loose credit to > spare! It was clear and to the point, "yes, it will, thanks. April fools > day". I went to the cafeteria for a cup of coffee. > > -- > Gichuru > > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > > > > -- > Daniel Nyutu > > Strategy Consultant > Strategic Leadership Center International > Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100 > Nairobi, Kenya. > Tel: 3872252/ 3877637/ 2067622 > Email: dnyutu at gmail.com > Cell: 0728-200075 > > "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting > different results" > > Albert Einstein (Attributed) > US (German born) Physicist (1879-1955) > > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour > by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French > In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & > Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning > Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 > 663 208 > > > > Topic: HELP Steve Odindo > > "George Onyango" Apr 01 07:57AM -0700 ^<#127bf47028032014_digest_top> > > Thanks Tony. Let me know how to go about it. I can send in something > small. > > George > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Gitonga" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:34 AM > Subject: [YP_Ke] HELP Steve Odindo > > > I kindly ask this forum to support Steven a student at JKUAT TAITA > TAVETA > CAMPUS Registration number JTC-SC2610162/2009 COURSE -Bsc Mathematics > and > Computer science his cellphone number is 0711371550 > About Steve > He is an orphan and he has been paying his school fees from selling of > ground nuts. Steve was brought up in the slums of Babadogo he went to > an > informal secondary school in Babadogo.After he was enrolled in campus > the > youth of Babadogo fundraised for him they were able to raise 50,000 > Steven > has been having difficult in purchasing basic things at campus like > soaps, > meals and even clothing. He is a very bright boy > > > REACH OVER 16,200 MEMBERS DIRECTLY BY ADVERTISING ON THIS > > FORUM. 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Anyone with links or suggestions > > Lawrence > > > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by > Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blessedmoses at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 03:45:21 2010 From: blessedmoses at gmail.com (MOSES HAYA) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 00:45:21 -0700 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] VOTE NO TO THE CONSTITUION In-Reply-To: <257212.60821.qm@web43512.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <50954.23854.qm@web111407.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <257212.60821.qm@web43512.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Even me am going to vote no to the new constitution. On 4/1/10, Will Keku wrote: > > > > The band has played its last song and the curtains have been drawn, the > stage has now been set for the final and decisive stage of the constitution > of Kenya. To decide whether to vote ?No? ?or to vote ? yes? will not be a > light decision for Kenyans. They now hold the future of the faith of their > country in their hands. > Chairman of the COE was quick in his closing words to explain the > contentious issues, which to him revolved around devolution and the abortion > debate. To him, the issue of the kadhi courts is not an issue worth > mentioning. The dismissal of a fundamental belief of the Christian faith > clearly shows the stand the chairman took, which by such silence is a loud > declaration of the obvious suppression of other beliefs by the muslim faith. > Many argue that the Kadhi courts have had no visible effect to the lively > hoods of other faiths. But what is not clear, is why a particular faith > should want to be treated as more superior than all others.? If you use the > example of the Nigerian system, this system will become obvious when > federalism comes to age in Kenya. Here the rights of other faiths will be > automatically suppressed as they will have no rights in the constitution. > The Sheriah law will already have a head start and if a federal state, by > the fact that constitutionally ?the muslim faith is already entrenched, then > you will have to contend with the rules governing the state you will be in. > Today in Nigeria, the Sheria law is about to abolish face book which has > been championing the rights of other people in the face of this faith which > many in Kenya do not profess to. I have opted to use Nigeria as an example > because it is the current stage where Christianity and Islam are on constant > collision course due to entrenchment of muslim faith in the federal states. > When you say yes to this constitution, you are simply setting the stage for > future confrontation and judging by the implementation of issues by the > Islamic fundamentals, you may as well un-subscribe to such forums in > advance. I believe you all remember the agreement one politician had signed > with the muslims in return for their support. Even though the politician > tried to refute, the muslim leaders came out strongly to say the contrary. > The agenda is there, which music will you play to? > > > > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim > Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda > Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, > Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by > Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 From editor at smartbizafrica.com Sat Apr 3 06:09:57 2010 From: editor at smartbizafrica.com (Smartbizafrica.com) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 13:09:57 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] Seven habits of bad investors Message-ID: <20100402184449.77961138@smartbizafrica.com> (Mailing list information, including unsubscription instructions, is located at the end of this message.) __ About this E-mail You received this e-mail because of your relationship with smartbizafrica.com If you no longer wish to receive this newsletter, you may opt out by clicking the unsubscribe button. 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URL: From mail at blackhistoryclub.ning.com Fri Apr 2 11:58:08 2010 From: mail at blackhistoryclub.ning.com (Lily Simpson) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:58:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Jambo] What Black America Can Learn from Recent Chinese History Message-ID: <24202190.591089271270223888652.JavaMail.xncore@z1011ab.ningops.com> Lily Simpson has sent you a message on Black History Club To reply to this message, click here: http://blackhistoryclub.ning.com/profiles/message/listInbox?xg_source=msg_mes_private Subject: What Black America Can Learn from Recent Chinese History "This is response to the question of What Black America can learn from the Recent Chinese History. My quesion on this is, why do we always feel we have to learn from others or follow what others do or don't do. I see this type of headline all the time. However, I don't ever recall seeing a headline asking what others can learn from blacks. > Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:52:33 +0000 > From: R. 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Col..., William Reed, anne bouie, arthur kennedy, bobby white, clcrss, dan, efia, erie l adams, errol moncriffe, hfinch, jay tee, john c. mcghee, kehinde Igbinado..., kenneth d hooks, leon peacock, mahasine hassan, maria bethel, maria gloria ortiz, michael roberts, michelle, s e anderson, shirley, teresa leslie can..., theodore walter w..., willique > > Please log on and view our latest blog post on what Black America Can Learn from Communist China. > > Please share your views. > > Robert " To reply to this message, click here: http://blackhistoryclub.ning.com/profiles/message/listInbox?xg_source=msg_mes_private -- To control which emails you receive on Black History Club, go to: http://blackhistoryclub.ning.com/?xgo=eav7Epp5gUINLBsHa1HvU5FzeMF2ojSg5g50wbCep0zFdr-hh-ekgA&xg_source=msg_mes_private From christinebaraza at yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 06:23:36 2010 From: christinebaraza at yahoo.com (Christine Baraza) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 03:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] THE KENYAN CHURCH IS BETRAYING KENYANS AGAIN In-Reply-To: <257212.60821.qm@web43512.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <87041.69832.qm@web113819.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Its almost the theatre of the ABSURD when you hear NCCK Secretary KARANJA saying that the church was neutral in the 2005 referendum but will not be neutral this time round. That the church will mobilize its followers to say NO to the Constitution. A number of points to take him. The Kenyan church lost any moral ground to argue its case in the 2005 referendum when they were bought by the state and refused to give any leadership at all as to which direction they felt the country should take. There henceforth the church has no credibility telling anyone where to vote at all. ? Secondly in 2007, the Kenyan church betrayed the people of Kenya a second time by openly being partisan and supporting the incumbent regime even when they knew that the regime hadnt lived up to its promises. Even after the BLOODY ELECTIONS of 2007, people like Bishop NJUE were openly TRIBAL in their support of what was open stolen elections and swearing in in DRAKNESS. What Kind of church is THIS? ? Third its a SMOKESCREEN the issues that the church is pegging its opposition to the Draft Constitution. KADHIS COURTS have existed in Kenya since 1963 and have never prevented any CHRISTIAN from going to church neither have KADHIS COURTS ever ever advocated for sharia Law in the country. They deal only with Muslim Customary Law and do not threaten any christian in any way. There is need for any democracy to take care of issues of minorities-pure and simple. These churches are OUT OF ORDER and must stop such fundamentalism which does not help this country at all. ? The issue of abortion is very clear in the draft constitution that it shall only be performed when the child or the mothers life is threatened and only after an opinion of a certified Doctor-What else would christians want to be done? Should a Mother be left to die when complications arise because of the pregnancy? Should be the foetus be left to die due to pregnancy complications? Again these christians should know that in a country like Kenya such abortions are done everyday by quacks-better they are done in the open by qualified doctors and in situations that need them to be done. CHRISTIANS lets open our eyes and not approach this issue with such vile fundamentalism. ? The Kenyan church leaders must be told no in no uncertain terms. You have misled this country and you continue misleading this country. Pray to the God you claim to worship and ASK FOR FORGIVENESS. In 2007 YOU FAILED KENYANS..In 2005 YOU FAILED KENYAN..Throughout KIBAKI'S RULE-YOU HAVE FAILED KENYANS..Its sad to see a tribalist like NJUE not coming out of the closet to oppose the draft constitution after supporting tribalism in 2007..WHERE IS Accountability Bishop NJUE..Is that what BISHOPS do? Is that what the CHURCH STANDS FOR? Kenyans are done with you bishops-they want progress and you are dragging them back. KENYANS SHALL WIN IN THE REFRENDUM WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. WHAT GOD DO YOU WORSHIP? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? --- On Fri, 4/2/10, Will Keku wrote: From: Will Keku Subject: [YP_Ke] VOTE NO TO THE CONSTITUION To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 1:44 AM The band has played its last song and the curtains have been drawn, the stage has now been set for the final and decisive stage of the constitution of Kenya. To decide whether to vote ?No? ?or to vote ? yes? will not be a light decision for Kenyans. They now hold the future of the faith of their country in their hands. Chairman of the COE was quick in his closing words to explain the contentious issues, which to him revolved around devolution and the abortion debate. To him, the issue of the kadhi courts is not an issue worth mentioning. The dismissal of a fundamental belief of the Christian faith clearly shows the stand the chairman took, which by such silence is a loud declaration of the obvious suppression of other beliefs by the muslim faith. Many argue that the Kadhi courts have had no visible effect to the lively hoods of other faiths. But what is not clear, is why a particular faith should want to be treated as more superior than all others.? If you use the example of the Nigerian system, this system will become obvious when federalism comes to age in Kenya. Here the rights of other faiths will be automatically suppressed as they will have no rights in the constitution. The Sheriah law will already have a head start and if a federal state, by the fact that constitutionally ?the muslim faith is already entrenched, then you will have to contend with the rules governing the state you will be in. Today in Nigeria, the Sheria law is about to abolish face book which has been championing the rights of other people in the face of this faith which many in Kenya do not profess to. I have opted to use Nigeria as an example because it is the current stage where Christianity and Islam are on constant collision course due to entrenchment of muslim faith in the federal states. When you say yes to this constitution, you are simply setting the stage for future confrontation and judging by the implementation of issues by the Islamic fundamentals, you may as well un-subscribe to such forums in advance. I believe you all remember the agreement one politician had signed with the muslims in return for their support. Even though the politician tried to refute, the muslim leaders came out strongly to say the contrary. The agenda is there, which music will you play to? -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano ? AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili ? EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa ? Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 ? FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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ONE VOTE - ONE HUMAN http://www.blackconsciousness.com/nubianvoting.html From atienorebecca at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 05:01:46 2010 From: atienorebecca at gmail.com (Rebecca O'yieyi) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:01:46 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] SECOND HAND SALOON EQUIPMENT Message-ID: Dear all, I am looking for second hand saloon equipment. anyone selling please mail me what you have and the prices. thank you regard -- Rebecca Atieno Ogola P.O BOX 21210-00505 NAIROBI. 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URL: From jzrogony at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 05:03:16 2010 From: jzrogony at gmail.com (Jeffrey Cherogony) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 05:03:16 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] THE CLERGY.... LET THEIR OPINION NOT MATTER.... NOW Message-ID: Hi good people, It is wrong to disobey the religious leaders, but I think to me it makes more sense to disobey them right now, on the matter of the new constitution. Like we all know, we will never get a perfect constitution; and no constitution in the whole wide world is perfect, except of course the ten commandments. So people, when our clergy preach in our churches, synagogues, halls, mosques, mountains and under trees, lets heed all the good and righteous things they preach, but if they tell us to vote NO lets leave that to them. The chuch has always dictated things to us, we agree by them but on other matters, we have our own reservations about them. I call on you people to rethink this New Constitution matter and Vote YES. The ambiguous percentage is so small and we will lobby, arm twist and nag our MPs to make the necessary amendments when the time comes. God wants us to have a NEW CONSTITUTIONal dispensation within this year! 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URL: From alimaly at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 08:35:31 2010 From: alimaly at gmail.com (Ali Maalim) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 07:35:31 -0500 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] 2012 Candidate at OTHAYA Message-ID: YPs, For a while i have been considering contesting at Othaya in 2012. This may sound crazy and radical, especially among the very ethnic conservative and political traditionalist. But my mind is set on it. For me, more than any thing else, it is a test of democracy and one way to break the hardline tradtional political lines. Yes, i am from North Eastern Kenya and yes, ethnic somali. I am also looking for a candidate from Kisumu or Eldoret, or someother place (non-somali) to contest in Mandera, wajir or Garissa. Anyone up for this challenge? I front this to you, the YPs, because i believe you are the more rational, realist and learned group. What are your thoughts? Thanks, Aliyoung M. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 3:45 AM, MOSES HAYA wrote: > Even me am going to vote no to the new constitution. > > On 4/1/10, Will Keku wrote: > > > > > > > > The band has played its last song and the curtains have been drawn, the > > stage has now been set for the final and decisive stage of the > constitution > > of Kenya. To decide whether to vote ?No? or to vote ? yes? will not be a > > light decision for Kenyans. They now hold the future of the faith of > their > > country in their hands. > > Chairman of the COE was quick in his closing words to explain the > > contentious issues, which to him revolved around devolution and the > abortion > > debate. To him, the issue of the kadhi courts is not an issue worth > > mentioning. The dismissal of a fundamental belief of the Christian faith > > clearly shows the stand the chairman took, which by such silence is a > loud > > declaration of the obvious suppression of other beliefs by the muslim > faith. > > Many argue that the Kadhi courts have had no visible effect to the lively > > hoods of other faiths. But what is not clear, is why a particular faith > > should want to be treated as more superior than all others. If you use > the > > example of the Nigerian system, this system will become obvious when > > federalism comes to age in Kenya. Here the rights of other faiths will be > > automatically suppressed as they will have no rights in the constitution. > > The Sheriah law will already have a head start and if a federal state, by > > the fact that constitutionally the muslim faith is already entrenched, > then > > you will have to contend with the rules governing the state you will be > in. > > Today in Nigeria, the Sheria law is about to abolish face book which has > > been championing the rights of other people in the face of this faith > which > > many in Kenya do not profess to. I have opted to use Nigeria as an > example > > because it is the current stage where Christianity and Islam are on > constant > > collision course due to entrenchment of muslim faith in the federal > states. > > When you say yes to this constitution, you are simply setting the stage > for > > future confrontation and judging by the implementation of issues by the > > Islamic fundamentals, you may as well un-subscribe to such forums in > > advance. I believe you all remember the agreement one politician had > signed > > with the muslims in return for their support. Even though the politician > > tried to refute, the muslim leaders came out strongly to say the > contrary. > > The agenda is there, which music will you play to? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by > Jim > > Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda > > Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, > > Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by > > Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In > 3 > > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & > Easy > > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > > Swahili > > > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning > Exercise, > > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 > 663 > > 208 > > > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > > > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by > Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > -- __________________________________ Dr. Ali Mahamud ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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URL: From akbh at africaonline.co.ke Sat Apr 3 07:54:20 2010 From: akbh at africaonline.co.ke (Hanif Kassam - Home) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:54:20 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Is Easter the Creation of Marketers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001001cad324$651d41a0$2f57c4e0$@co.ke> Yes it is and so is Valentines day , X Mas day, Mothers day , Fathers day and My dogs day etc We humans need to something to celebrate and so we cannot blame ourselves for falling for these "days" ....that is what we also have celebrities and fall head over heels over them. Moi day is the creation of KANU - just to put the record straight :-) Rgds -----Original Message----- From: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com [mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of midas media Sent: 02 April 2010 16:08 To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Subject: [YP_Ke] Is Easter the Creation of Marketers? Have you ever wondered why every religious celebration/season always has one bottomline? From Christmas to Easter, every company associates these more and more to the selling of goodies rather than the relevance of the celebrations. I have never been a conspiracy theory specialist,but today I break ranks with my fellow advertisers. Was there an elaborate conspiracy to create much hype on religious seasons so as to build up revenue bases? Did the fathers of advertising create the golden goose around the basic religious emotions? Are these celebrations,Easter and Christmas,justified by historical records? If these questions stir to you,then,probably the founding fathers of my trade(marketing and advertising) created the biggest lie in history so as to rope in generations of spenders. On 4/1/10, [Mathews] wrote: > Dear YPs' > > I greet you all. > > Pray for your country whether we need the new constitution or not, lets > encourage each other to embrace love, peace and humility. > > Happy Easter and may the season be a blessing to you and yours! > > Mbarikiwe sana! > > *On a light note:* > Jesus said he will come like a thief ( No one knows the time or the hour). I > encourage you not to kill all the thieves since we might just wait for so > long for Jesus coming back! But make sure that your lanterns are ready for > him lest you be locked out of the party. > > > Am out of here cheers and see you next week. > > Dkt.Mathayo > > -- > ============================= > Mathews O. Ogutu > ICT Consultant > P.O.Box 3337 00100 > Nairobi > Cell: > 254-723-714 000 > Alt E-mail:- mathewsogutu at yahoo.com > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. From akbh at africaonline.co.ke Sat Apr 3 07:47:40 2010 From: akbh at africaonline.co.ke (Hanif Kassam - Home) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:47:40 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Safaricom Shareholders to watch Michael Joseph before he introduces 4G systems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000f01cad323$76e90820$64bb1860$@co.ke> I in a way agree with King Midas. Safaricom has been lucky... Yes, it is true that they drew first blood being the FIRST GSM operator Yes, it is true that in spite of poor voice quality (Kencell was much better) it managed to survive because of billing per second (compared to Kencells billing per minute) Yes, it is true that they drew first blood being first to introduce M-Pesa, internet via USB modem , 3G , lower denominations etc These are the reasons that makes Safaricom "sell itself".....not MJ Rgds -----Original Message----- From: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com [mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of midas media Sent: 02 April 2010 12:36 To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Safaricom Shareholders to watch Michael Joseph before he introduces 4G systems I believe you are quite misinformed. Safaricom as it stands has no real competitor. Its 'competitors' are lumped to include ISPs,money transfer(Western Union,Posta Pay....)And of course Voice(read Zain,Yu,Orange and all).Now,that transcends your definition of competition,doesn't it? Before you send me to the gallows,I will qualify. Safaricom has unmatched brand equity. At more than 60% marketshare in voice and data(on phone),according tho the last survey am privy of,they control voice. With its 'fortress' advertising strategy which keeps its 'competitors' away from its market-share,its my proffesional opinion that it will take much more than price reduction by Voice telephony competitors to cut into their market-share. Further,Safaricom is reaping from the advantages resulting from 'drawing first blood' with M-pesa. Blue band,royco, pampers,coke, google, to name but a few successfully did the same and after being the first to introduce a product,consumers will always believe theirs is a more superior product. 4G is as similar as Safaricom pioneering concepts(per second billing,3G,M-pesa,etc) So,my take? Michael Josephs,if you are on this forum,this is the way to go. "You did ksh.72 billion in revenues per year,$419 billion less than what Wal-Mart did over the same period last year. In Corporate Kenya,you are the closest person to a business sage,so lead us to the $420billion mark.These aren't achieved by playing lame duck,they are achieved by taking calculated risks like you took with M-pesa.But,always remember the Kenyan corporate space is not devoid of visionaries like yourself,Michael.What I am trying to tell you is,if you fail,if you play it safe,if you become content with the less than billion dollar profits you post annually with pomp,someone will lead us to this Caanan.For we are not out for an avergae sage,no,corporate Kenya needs a Steve Jobs style corporate shark." On 4/1/10, Tim Arnold wrote: > Gibson, > > In business if you stagnate and think what you have today will carry you > kesho you will close in no time. A good manager grows the current clients > but through innovation you anticipate their future need. If it wasn't him > their wouldn't be bamba 5, 10, 20, 50 & 100. many laughed thinking it was > desperate but billions later everyone has one. Okoa Jahazi has been is > successful you can request after every 24 hrs from a week since people pay > back and are loyal. Mpesa is giving banks a run and they are rushing to join > in before they completely lose out. They started 3G in 2007 paid licence 25 > million USD to CCK and billions more to put up the network and today they > are over 3 million users and counting. > > The competition is wanting. Yu has only 1% of the market and they are using > Zain network which may not last since Zain has been sold to Bhartel. Bhartel > is the chief rival to Essar the parent owner of Yu in India and with their > acrimony i don't see them allowing co sharing. they can be switched off > anytime the final takeover comes along. Lastly none of the others have even > paid for 3G licence, before they do that and take 2 years putting the > network safcom will be in 4G. > > Fiber networks depends on how far you are in the line and the no of > potential customers in your area otherwise none of this company will agree > to go out of the way n put in your home or office unless they intended to. > wi-fi is up n down unreliable, satellite link expensive so the need for > quick, wireless, big bandwidth and service without much contraption will do > for me. thats 4G. > > Tim > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:43 PM, amenya gibson > wrote: > >> I will like to bring to attention to all investors in Safaricom to be >> careful with Safaricom management >> The idea of bring in 4G network is very noble but they need to know >> that Kenyan market is not that well endowed with enough disposable >> income >> Yu is quicly gaining large share market and so when Safaricom thinks >> by investing in 4G network it help it grow revenue i doubt that >> We have fibre optics which hopeful will bring rates down and many >> Kenyans will prefer that . >> Yes 4G is a great plan but at whose expense? >> >> Let Joseph leave Safaricom honourably rather than lauv\ching very >> ambitious projects that will wipe all profits in safaricom balance >> sheet >> >> >> -- >> Thanks >> Gibson Amenya >> Enigma Consultants Kenya Limited >> NHC Building,3rd Flr >> P.O Box 10017-00200,Nairobi >> Email: gibson.amenya at enigma.or.ke >> Email:info at enigma.or.ke >> For Audit,Taxation and Business Advisory Services >> >> -- >> Countdown----TODAY. >> >> >> Hi YP in Mombasa, >> >> Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) >> >> Venue - Sumerlink hotel >> Date - 31st march 2010 >> Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm >> Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated >> with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". >> >> Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. >> >> -- >> Best Regards >> Josephine Kamanthe >> Tel: +254 723 736 086 >> >> To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. >> > > -- > Countdown----TODAY. > > > Hi YP in Mombasa, > > Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > > Venue - Sumerlink hotel > Date - 31st march 2010 > Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated > with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > > Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 From alimaly at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 08:01:02 2010 From: alimaly at gmail.com (Ali Maalim) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 07:01:02 -0500 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] IS KENYA A MUSLIM STATE??? In-Reply-To: <4BB712C40200004F00028A4C@vennamo.phks.fi> References: <4BB712C40200004F00028A4C@vennamo.phks.fi> Message-ID: Paul, Can't you get over this topic? Do you belief in democracy and debate - We have written and discussed this thing for months? do you know sometimes you have to let go things you are deeply and emotionally connected to? Don't let the fear of the unknown overshadow your ability to embrace rationality, change and inclusiveness. Ali M. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Paul Nyandoto wrote: > Kenyans, > > We can`t wait to see suffering stopped, injustice corrected, and prosperity > begun. Christians too have much to learn about Jesus death and > ressurrection. We must not let our personal desires catch us up and prevent > us from seeing the truth. Why should Kadhi`s courts or sheria law be > included in our constitution again almost 47 years down the line from > independence?. > Christians have also to remember that following Christ involves hardships. > It may include suffering and even death. Christians are right to be upset > about kadhi courts in the Kenyan constitution especially when the parliament > passes kadhi courts just on the eve of easter holiday. > Easter holiday is celebrated by all Christians around the world: Jesus was > resurrected from the dead on the third day after his cruxifixion. Why can`t > Kenya learn from Nigeria or Somalia where kadhi courts are the order of the > day, or Sudan, for heavenly sake why is Sudan dividing now or why is Nigeria > not stable almost 50 years after independence. > > To the coastal people who wanted a devolution of government, majimbo and > were to create local governments are you now silent because they have > included Kadhi courts in the constitution or what?. Where is the 3 tier of > government or creation of local government for the people disappeared to?. I > thought that these guys were serious that they wanted to manage their local > resources to get rid of poverty. Kenyans are not seeing a head very > clearly. A new constitution is good just like any new clothes or shoes > bought to a kid or a person who lacked them, but after sometimes he will see > the bad sides or see if the shoes are really suitable for long distance walk > or leaving wounds on the leg every time he uses them?. Kenyans have also > elected a group of goons as Mps, they have mouths like goose but can not > decide on anything good for the country: Or is this a trick for the new > constitution to be rejected and people remain with the present one?. > > Passing the constitution was a great thing, but passing Kadhi courts in a > country dominated by christians is just an abuse to our rights, and our self > determination. I can not believe that the courts which were introduced by > sultan of Zanziber will still follow us after losing even people Like Dedan > Kimathi, who died for our freedom so that africans can have their country > back and introduce self determination and self rule. Why even bother sueing > the British government over Mau mau when we still leave our people to be > governed by sultan`s courts. Do Kenyans want to say that colonialism by the > British was more worse than colonialism by Arabs and slavery etc. So let > Kenyans be still under kadhi influences. > > What type of a country Kenya will be if all religions starts to demand a > right of their rituals in the constitution?. 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From kadadis at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 09:25:22 2010 From: kadadis at gmail.com (Ka dadi) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:25:22 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] cannot copy files during setup In-Reply-To: References: <00e101cad0a4$328dacc0$97a90640$@com> <945878.53249.qm@web56707.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: the issue was Cd Drive, replaced it and everything is ok! On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Eric Kopondo wrote: > Just get another windows installation Cd plain n simple . It should work. > > > On 31 March 2010 17:18, kennedy waweru wrote: > >> Elvis is most probably right. Remove the cd when the error appears and >> carefully wipe it with a soft clothe, re-insert it and hit retry...it will >> probably work, but you might have to repeat the process over and over when >> the error occurs. >> >> If not, get another copy of XP (genuine) >> >> Kind Regards, >> Ken >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Elvis Kiarie >> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com >> *Sent:* Wed, March 31, 2010 11:55:59 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [YP_Ke] cannot copy files during setup >> >> The problem is the cd.Please try using a genuine cd from microsoft and >> not a pirated copy.Also you can also insert another xp cd when it >> brings the error so that the computer can read that particular file >> from the other cd. >> >> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:31 AM, maina ndiritu >> wrote: >> > Boss , you need to do a low level format on your HDD , Check your HDD >> with a >> > Scandisk for errors >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Maina ndiritu >> > >> > KAINOOK AGENCIES LIMITED >> > >> > P.O.Box 210 Uhuru Gardens >> > >> > Nairobi 00517 >> > >> > Kenya >> > >> > Tel. +254 020 2018907 >> > >> > Mo. +254 722707900 >> > >> > kainook at swiftkenya.com >> > >> > litshooz at gmail.com >> > >> > ICQ - 167192098 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com >> > [mailto:youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ka dadi >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:41 PM >> > >> > To: computer-tech-support at googlegroups.com >> > Cc: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com >> > Subject: [YP_Ke] cannot copy files during setup >> > >> > >> > >> > Am almost giving up..someone save me. >> > >> > >> > >> > I am doing a clean installation to a Compaq Evo D300 desktop. It has 40 >> Gb >> > Hdd, 512 Ram, and am installing Xp sps 2 >> > >> > here is the story, The show...The setup starts ok, I manage to do >> > partitions, and even format the Disk. The list of windows setup file is >> > created and copying starts..it goes on very well..sometimes up to 89% >> then >> > this error comes up..'cant copy Xjkjh.wav" [cant remember the names of >> files >> > coz setup stops at different levels of my tries] ..if i hit retry >> sometimes >> > it works but still i cant manage 100% copying of files, that means I can >> > continue with Installation. >> > >> > >> > >> > I have already tried the following: >> > >> > >> > >> > Tried with a known working Hdd- got the same error. >> > >> > Got working Sdram from a working Pc and re-tried- got the same error >> > >> > Downloaded the latest Bios Version and upgraded successifully (3,0 *** >> from >> > the initial 2.0***) - nothing changed. >> > >> > tried other Setup Cds, Sps 1 and Sps 2 - Same problem >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > What other options do I have? >> > >> > >> > >> > M'aide..! 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URL: From orinaonka at yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 09:11:04 2010 From: orinaonka at yahoo.com (orina Nyamwamu) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 06:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] KENYANS MUST WATCH WAKO NOT TO CHANGE THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION In-Reply-To: <802460.59527.qm@web113801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <257417.75453.qm@web111707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Wako must be watched very carefully so that he does not generate a contentious draft as he has done with many laws before. Even the 2005 Wako draft is not what MPs passed in Parliament. It is not even what Kilifi generated. The smiling AG is so sinister. Christine you are are so right. Cyprian Orina Nyamwamu Happy Easter Brothers and Sisters --- On Fri, 4/2/10, Christine Baraza wrote: From: Christine Baraza Subject: [YP_Ke] KENYANS MUST WATCH WAKO NOT TO CHANGE THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 3:32 PM The Constitution process has now reached a CRUCIAL STAGE that requires more VIGILANCE from Kenyans lest Wako inserted clauses that will totally change the spirit and the Constitution to the benefit of the people who have kept him in office since 1991. The good thing with this Constitution is that its states that all important officers like the Attorney General, Chief Justice and the Judges will have to RESIGN and new ones apointed in a competitive, open and transparent way with parliamentary approval. Given that Wako knows that he must resign once this Constitution is passed in a referendum, we mst be vigilant and watch him keenly, ? Immediately Wako gazettes this Bill, we must all make sure that we compare the Draft with the original Draft for COE. COE must also ensure that the Draft that goes to the people of Kenya is the one that they handed over to Parliament. Last year there was a case where Wako was accused by parliament of altering an Act of parliament so PEOPLE LETS BE CAREFUL WITH AMOS WAKO. To KEEP his job Wako is always READY to do anything and approve ANYTHING..Make sure that YOU COMPARE the draft from WAKO and the one COE released recently...WE MUST CONTINUE KEEPING VIGILANCE... ? ? ? --- On Fri, 4/2/10, maina ndiritu wrote: From: maina ndiritu Subject: RE: I must Salute President Kibaki - He is not a PNU Person To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 1:39 AM Aaah harry , because the president said something you like so he is now a good man and a statesman? , he is surrounded by sharks and that is how the elections were stolen ?, is he not the beneficiary of that thievery if at all it did occur ?? is he still a good statesman ? perhaps I should be saying things you like , you might brand me reasonable , in principle a good man with or without sharks ? From: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com [mailto:mlalahoi at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:55 AM To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com; Harrison Mumia N Subject: I must Salute President Kibaki - He is not a PNU Person ? ? My Friends, I come to you with Good News. A new day is born. A new moment in the history of Kenyans. The CoE Draft Constitution has been passed by parliament and now goes to the people of Kenya for a referendum. ? For the first time though, i had a chance to see Mr. Kibaki, who i ?will now call President Kibaki, displaying a side of him which i had never thought of. This was in parliament at around 8.45 PM. ? Friends, and particularly my ODM friends, Kibaki is a reasonable person after-all. He is?infarct?in principle a good man. He is an old man who was?surrounded?by PNU sharks and thats how the election was stolen. But he is possibly a statesman. Maybe he has become a little bit too old. Maybe he is? But he spoke like a statesman.? ? Kibaki told parliament that the constitution can always be?amended. He encouraged them to pass the draft. He thanked the Speaker for displaying leadership. I must applaud him on this. And he is an eloquent man, this Kibaki fellow.? ? I therefore urge all of us, from today on, lets give him support for the remaining two years, as we adopt a new constitution, which will guarantee the right of Kenyans. ? God Bless Kenya. ? -- PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE ? MANY VACANCIES: http://www.myafricancareer.net/ ? FREE CLASSIFIEDS ADS: http://bit.ly/aZbpFV ? TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR ? You are subscribed to the Google Groups "MlalaHoi" group. To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mlalahoi?hl=en -- PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE ? 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URL: From midasmedia.kenya at gmail.com Sat Apr 3 08:58:44 2010 From: midasmedia.kenya at gmail.com (midas media) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 15:58:44 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] NEWS:- Prepare for shock, Kalonzo tells Raila .... But Ran for Dear Life People ! .... In-Reply-To: References: <292713.10017.qm@web57316.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Judy, I believe you need a lesson in Propaganda. Well,what you are purporting to be true could actually be true but its not believable;at least not just yet. If the essence of communication is so as to influence public opinion,then in this thread you have failed in the least and have made yourself a laughing stock at best. You can, however, use my services and you will go a long way in not only influencing opinion but you will communicate it with the clarity the 'Diaspora Spokeperson' ought to communicate. On 4/2/10, David Mkesha wrote: > My dear Judy, > > Go to railways matatu terminus and take a matatu no 126 to Kiserian. There > you will find masaais: Tell them this crap you are writing here. > > Davie > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Judy Miriga wrote: > >> Folks, >> >> It is not sweet as it sounds from Kalonzo's Mouth.......investigate where >> they get >> the money first.....You will be signing for your death trap....... >> >> People know the truth and are well enlighted, the problem is that there is >> extreme >> poverty in Luo Nyanza the reason why they are up for cheap political sale >> deals >> they will never benefit from. >> >> The truth is, Luos are hungry and have been pushed to poverty death-bed. >> They can >> easily succumb to cheap lure.....and their votes will absolutely and >> surely >> be divided >> not for good gain but out of desparacy. >> >> I am worried......there is need for quick sustanance so Luo Nyanza do not >> fall prey, >> the most ideal strategy to save Luo Nyanza is to get the Grassroot >> organized for Social >> Entreprenureship Agricultural cooperative program which is directly funded >> to the >> Community and not through the Government machinery...... >> >> Kalonzo definately is not a saviour to Luo Nyanza poverty.....He will >> cause >> the community >> to perish because Kalonzo behaviour and records shows he is sneaky for his >> own personal >> interest and gains and he has no Interest of Luo Nyanza at heart.... Check >> your facts!...... >> >> Luos are also hated immensely because of their generousity and good >> naturedness and >> for their astute ability and knowledge of things........*Luo Leaders must >> begin to think * >> *deeper than being **in the shallow........Luo Nyanza are up for grabs and >> are * >> *destined for wholesome **sale. * >> >> *Luo Nyanza is Luhya and Kisii included, especially those along the Nile * >> *and Lake **Victoria. This is the area where Libya President Muamar >> Gadafi have * >> *paid for and has **been technically been bought, unless the Luo Nyanza >> people * >> *wake up and rise up to **the occassion to save their land under unity of >> purpose.* >> *Otherwise, People living in **this region have no one to save them but >> themselves.* >> ** >> *This is not hearsay, Kalonzo have been meeting with Libyan President >> frequently * >> *over the sale of Nyanza land and do not be hoodwinked. He has made >> serious * >> *fortified deals and this is part from where he has gotten his big money >> to lure Luo * >> *Nyanza.* >> >> Just a tip of an iceburg, Luo Nyanza land was already sold to Libyan and >> other >> leaders outside Luo Nyanza have heavy weight plan to displace Luo Nyanza >> so >> the >> land can be easily dispatched. >> >> We need funds to go directly to the grassroots so the Local community >> there >> can >> be self-sustained and self-reliant and be able to prosper and grow in >> their >> God given >> land. Let us protect our destiny people ! ! >> >> Few years ago, Kalonzo was a begger, did not have enough money to sustain >> his >> back-yard, he depended on hand-outs from Kenyatta, Moi, Uhuru with fringe >> benefits >> he scooped during Kibaki leadership......why can Luo Leaders share the >> little they >> have and join forces including welcoming brains to develop our Luo Nyanza, >> so we are >> not used by politicians for short time gain?........ >> I think Luo Leaders are selfish and they dont think far, they are >> short-sighted.....and >> they dont care at what state our people are........ >> >> Lets team up and work together and put our pride aside......pride goes >> before a fall.... >> let us stop the idea of selfishness, thinking of yourself, your family and >> close friends... >> let us extend service and support to those we do not know, let us identify >> potentials >> and engage those potentials for our development, gains and growth. >> >> I am saddened.....because our people will perish for lack of utilizing the >> knowledge >> God gave us.......the knowledge is our weapon but we are not using it >> potentially. >> >> We are in to a rude shock People !....... We are going to be made to >> fight each other. >> The scheme has already been started.......There are groups of people who >> have been >> heavily funded to create havoc and confusion in Nyanza before >> election..... >> follow the >> trend of things people.........so Wake Up people, Think with your Heads >> not >> your Mouths >> people ? >> >> Be all encouraged and work hard to unify Kenya for greater prosperity and >> growth not to >> get divided. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Judy Miriga >> Diaspora Spokesperson >> Executive Director >> Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc., >> USA >> http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com >> >> >> >> *Kalonzo is a lier and cannot be trusted with votes from Luo Nyanza.....He >> has negotiated **a deadly deal with Libyan President Gadafi......the >> reason he has * >> *been travelling frequently **to Mombasa Pwani as well.......Keep watch >> people * >> *Let the Truth be Told....It is the Truth that shall set you Free ! !*.... >> US dismisses Musyoka?s claim of aid as fiction[image: Vice President >> Kalonzo Musyoka (left) and US Deputy in charge of State Department Donald >> Yamamoto(right) at the department's office on February 5, 2010. >> Photo/VPPS] >> >> Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka (left) and US Deputy in charge of State >> Department Donald Yamamoto(right) met on February 5, 2010. Photo/VPPS >> By KEVIN J KELLEY in New York Posted Saturday, February 13 2010 at 11:35 >> The US State Department on Friday dismissed as ?fiction? Vice President >> Kalonzo Musyoka?s recent claim that Kenya will be fast-tracked for >> millions of dollars in US development aid. >> Mr Musyoka said during a visit to Washington a week ago that the State >> Department had agreed to help Kenya qualify for a compact with the US >> government?s Millennium Challenge Corporation. >> The vice president trumpeted that supposed breakthrough following his >> February >> 6 meeting with Donald Yamamoto, the principal deputy assistant to >> Secretary >> of State Hillary Clinton. >> Mr Musyoka?s publicists contended that the State Department was rewarding >> Kenya for progress made in the constitutional review process and in >> implementing anti-corruption reforms. >> But after checking with Mr Yamamoto on Friday, a State Department >> officialtold the Nation that no such assurances or affirmations were made. >> Mr >> Musyoka?s version of what transpired at the meeting is ?fiction,? the US >> official said in an unusually strong rebuke. >> Mr Yamamoto had actually told the vice president that Kenya must make >> further progress in controlling corruption before it can qualify for >> Millennium Challenge assistance, the official said. >> Kenya has failed the eligibility test for Millennium Challenge aid in each >> of the past five years because it falls short on governance standards. >> >> *Watch the Video....* >> >> February 16, 2010 >> *US dismisses Kalonzo claims* >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhfY7OjN2qk >> >> Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka has spoken out on a controversy that >> emerged >> after his recent visit to Washington. Kalonzo was sharply rebuked by a >> state >> department official following reports that the US had agreed to fund >> various >> Kenyan projects after a meeting between officials of the two countries. >> The >> Vice President now says that he was misquoted and as Robert Nagila reports >> the US ambassador now says the VP was on a private visit. >> >> *February 06, 2010* >> *What Kalonzo said ..... which turned to be a lie.....aided * >> *by Ambassador Ogego to confirm the lie......* >> ** >> *Kalonzo in the US* >> Kenya is set to benefit from millions of dollars from the Obama >> administration through the millennium Challenge Account and increased >> investment funding through the USAID. However, the state department >> insists >> that reforms and war on corruption must be fast tracked. >> >> >> December 13, 2009 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPDLTtJiOE4 >> *Kenya pushes for reforms in the UN general assembly...an opening for >> Kalonzo to Lobby **for his campaign money and his stomach......at the >> expense of * >> *selling Nyanza.........Luo Nyanza people are going to be squarters very >> soon * >> *because of "Have Nots" ... a state they were politically pushed so they >> can * >> *be compromised to give up land for dear survival........* >> >> Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka is drumming up support for a communiqu? >> that seeks two permanent seats in the United Nations General Assembly for >> Africa. Kalonzo is representing Kenya at the meeting of the committee of >> ten >> an initiative of Libyan leader Muamar Gadaffi. The committee is pushing >> for >> reforms at the United Nations. >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8UI6f8_6C0&feature=player_embedded >> >> *April 20, 2009* >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8UI6f8_6C0 >> U.N. Surprise: Victim of Qaddafi Torture Confronts Libyan Chair of Durban >> 2 >> >> >> >> >> --- On *Tue, 3/30/10, Dickens Odhiambo * wrote: >> >> From: Dickens Odhiambo >> Subject: NEWS:- Prepare for shock.Kalonzo tells Raila >> To: "'BEN ODOTTE (E-mail)'" , "'BWANA CAREY >> (E-mail)'" >> Cbwanac at aol.com >> , >> Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 7:24 AM >> >> Breaking News >> A newly released opinion poll shows that 67 per cent of Kenyans know >> nothing or very little about the draft >> Constitution.... >> >> Politics >> Prepare for shock, Kalonzo tells Raila [image: Vice President Kalonzo >> Musyoka and Prime Minister Raila Odinga chat after meeting President >> Kibaki >> at KICC at a previous function. Photo/CHRIS OJOW] >> >> Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka and Prime Minister Raila Odinga chat after >> meeting President Kibaki at KICC at a previous function. Photo/CHRIS OJOW >> By NATION Correspondent >> Posted Monday, March 29 2010 at 21:00 >> Vice-President Kalonzo Musyoka on Monday launched one of his most >> scathing attacks against Prime Minister Raila Odinga. >> Mr Musyoka said the PM's brand of politics had no place in present-day >> Kenya. >> The VP told the PM to be prepared for more shocks because once the new >> constitution was passed his office would be "null and void". >> Speaking in Machakos, barely two weeks after Mr Odinga toured the area, Mr >> Musyoka announced that he had started his 2012 presidential campaign and >> his >> first mission would be to liberate the people of Nyanza Province, the home >> region of Mr Odinga. >> His enemies, Mr Musyoka said, had mistaken his "cool" nature for >> cowardice. >> "Raila comes to Ukambani and they call him *Ngumbau* (hero); he goes to >> Central Province and Meru and they call him *Njamba* (champion); people >> attending his rallies are given T-shirts bearing his portraits ... is this >> not early 2012 campaigns?" the VP asked amid cheers. >> "When Kalonzo goes round, he is quickly accused of early campaigns. I'm >> not >> a coward and I am declaring now that I have started the race, I'm prepared >> for it." >> "I am going to Nyanza. It will be my first stop. The people there need to >> be liberated from political and socio-economic bondage that has bedevilled >> them for so long. I will be their saviour," Mr Musyoka said. >> He told Kenyans not to trust Raila with the presidency. >> Revisiting the PM's Machakos rally, the VP took issue with Mr Odinga for >> using his forum to throw scorn at him. >> "We were told it was a development meeting but the forum used leaders from >> Ukambani to try to humiliate me in front of my people." >> During the Mulu Mutisya Gardens rally, former Kibwezi MP and The >> Independent Party of Kenya (Tip) leader Kalembe Ndile and ODM-K vice-chair >> Peris Tobiko criticised Mr Musyoka. >> Yatta MP Charles Kilonzo suggested that Water and Irrigation minister >> Charity Ngilu was qualified to be a Kamba spokesman. >> But on Monday Mr Musyoka said he was not interested in becoming a tribal >> chief. >> "I'm aiming high and the presidency is my next stop". >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* Margaret Gichuki [mailto:Wams2006 at gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Monday, March 29, 2010 7:51 PM >> *To:* kca_main >> *Cc:* africa-oped at yahoogroups.com; NewVisionKenya at yahoogroups.com >> *Subject:* [africa-oped] Prepare for shock.Kalonzo tells Raila >> >> >> http://dn.nationmed ia.com/DN/ DN/2010/03/ 30/ArticleHtmls/ 30_03_2010_ >> 006_005.shtml? >> Mode=1 >> >> >> *Libya ownership and leadership is blood and tears......* >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj_qR2Z-6ps >> >> Libya 40 Years of Blood & Tears.mov >> >> *asmayousef* (3 months ago) >> Show Hide >> *+1* >> >> >> Marked as spam >> Reply >> By the way, there has never been any proof of a riot inside Abu Salim >> prison. This excuse was used by Qaddafi's regime as news of the mass >> killing >> leaked and as families of the victims received notifications of? deaths >> without bodies. In addition, the prisoners we are talking about here never >> faced a fair trial in a court of law. They were never allowed a due >> process >> of law. Many were prisoners of consciouness who committed no crime but >> voice >> an opinion contrary to that espoused by Qaddafi. >> *vivadundee* (3 months ago) >> Show Hide >> * 0* >> >> >> Marked as spam >> Reply >> good job,but I wish if he cover briefly about hanging and killing the >> libyan students in uneversities and streets.over? all it was nice >> presintation at least give breif knoledge to their people about our >> suffering. >> >> >> *Libyan President Muamar Gaddafi could be the reason for Migingo hijack >> through Uganda.* >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> [image: The East African (Nairobi)] >> *Africa*: Gadaffi Crowned 'King of Kings' >> As He Seeks to Create 'Continental Govt' >> >> 12 October 2008 >> ------------------------------ >> >> Nairobi ? Political pundits and academicians were last week trying to make >> sense of Libyan leader Col Muammar Gaddafi's latest game plan, after he >> had >> himself crowned "King of Kings" by a section of African traditional >> leaders, >> sultans, sheiks and mayors from Muslim North Africa during ceremonies in >> Benghazi at the end of August. >> Dubbed the Forum of African Traditional Leaders, which will be meeting >> every September 9 in Sirte (Gaddafi's birthplace), the event, which is >> also >> being touted as a precursor to an African government to be launched next >> year, attracted more than 500 cultural leaders. >> Quoting a communiqu? issued after the event, Uganda's Muslim-leaning >> newspaper, The Weekly Message, reported in its most recent edition that >> Gaddafi was crowned King of Kings in recognition of his role in liberating >> Africa from colonialism and his frontline role in pushing for African >> unity. >> Among issues agreed during the forum was the creation of a government of >> the African Union next year and the issuance of a single currency and >> passport for the continent. >> The proposed African Union government is to be formed subject to the >> inclusion of sitting ministers of foreign affairs, defence, external >> trade, >> transport and communication from AU member states. >> But coming just over a year after Gaddafi's push for an African political >> union headed by a president met resistance from African presidents at >> their >> last meeting in Abuja, the maverick leader's latest adventure is being >> seen >> as an attempt to create a parallel track that would bring him closer to >> his >> goal of being Africa's first continental president. >> The sitting also elected Gaddafi, who gave his guests gifts that included >> Rado watches and African traditional garb, as the forum's chairman. >> Ugandan officials were quick to underplay the development, describing it >> as >> neutral to Uganda-Libya relations, but academicians were warning that >> given >> the Libyan leader's past record, his newfound alliance with traditional >> leaders had the potential to degenerate into a new wave of secular >> fundamentalism that could be a source of instability, as ambitious >> cultural >> leaders jostle for power with republicans. >> Uganda's Junior Foreign Minister in charge of International Co-operation, >> Okello Oryem, said that Gaddafi's "crowning" should have no negative >> impact >> on the ties between the two countries because "our diplomatic relations >> are >> determined by the level of interaction. The lower the interactions, the >> lower the relationship but generally speaking, our relationship is very >> cordial and at a high level," he said. >> But Mwambutsya Ndebesa, a senior lecturer at Makerere University's >> Department of History and Development Studies, said though Gaddafi's >> latest >> adventure may indeed not turn out to be much of a threat, it could still >> create a nuisance. >> Mr Ndebesa said Gaddafi had a history of destabilising his neighbours and >> as such his current actions should be viewed with some caution. >> "I don't see any possibility of ideological convergence between Gaddafi >> and >> the traditionalists, but he can still cause some trouble here and there by >> whipping up the appetite of some radical traditional elements," Mr Ndebesa >> said, adding that the Libyan leader had always been a contradictory >> figure, >> a man who overthrew a monarchy but was now allying with traditionalists. >> Libyan forces also supported Idi Amin's regime against Tanzanian-led >> liberation forces that included President Museveni's Front for National >> Salvation -- but, years later, he contributed arms to Museveni's guerrilla >> campaign against Ugandan government forces. >> Gaddafi's surprising love affair with monarchies was first manifested >> during a 1996 visit to Uganda, when he developed an interest in the then >> infant King of Toro, for whom he built a turnkey palace. >> Later, he sponsored the young king and his sister's education and the duo, >> accompanied by their mother, Queen Best Kemigisha, have made a number of >> extended visits to Libya. >> >> The Toro delegation to the Benghazi meeting travelled and returned aboard >> a >> private jet paid for by Gaddafi. >> In all, 34 traditional leaders from Uganda, including two kings -- Solomon >> Gafabusa Iguru of Bunyoro and Oyo Nyimba Kabamba Iguru of Toro -- attended >> the Benghazi proceedings. >> There was also a delegation from the Kingdom of Buganda, the Paramaount >> Chiefs of Acholi and Lango in northern Uganda as well as the Emorimor of >> Teso. >> But cracks were already appearing in the forum even before the ink had >> dried on the Benghazi protocols. >> With the exception of Toro and Bunyoro, the other Ugandan cultural leaders >> distanced themselves from ever endorsing the Libyan leader as some kind of >> supreme African ruler. >> At the meeting, the Buganda delegation went on record as telling the >> gathering that it was against their culture and norms to recognise a >> monarch >> other than their own king. >> Equally, the Paramount Chiefs of Acholi and Lango were vehement in their >> denials that they were party to an agreement that endorsed Gaddafi as King >> of Kings. >> "No, we did not do that. The Arabs might have elected him, but we did not >> sign anything to make him King of Kings. >> You can call the Acholi Paramount Chief and confirm this. How could we do >> such a thing?" Yosum Odur Won-Nyaci, Paramount Chief of Lango, said when >> The >> EastAfrican called him. >> Acholi Paramount Chief David Onen Acana said that it appeared to have been >> a calculated move to advance Gaddafi's ambitions because while most >> delegations from East Africa were in Libya for the first time, their >> counterparts from West and North Africa appeared to have been there on a >> follow-up meeting and all what happened was symbolic. >> "We were all taken by surprise. According to me, he is not really a king >> in any sense. Gaddafi is pursuing a social angle to achieve his goals of >> having one Africa. He wanted to expand the issues to cultural leaders to >> work with politicians to speed up the unity of Africa," Acana said. >> Although nobody gave it much thought at the time, Gaddafi's grandiose >> scheme first came to the attention of Ugandans in early September, when he >> signed off as "King of Kings" a condolence message he sent to President >> Museveni upon the death of the Kyabazinga of Busoga, Henry Wako Muloki. >> But the King of Kings of 2008 is the very man who overthrew King Idris I >> in >> 1969, abolished the monarchy and proclaimed the country the Libyan Arab >> Republic. >> The Ugandan kings who spoke to The East African said that Gaddafi >> explained >> to them the need for African unity and urged them to mobilise their people >> to support the cause. They said Gaddafi told them that the African >> president >> would rule for only three years. >> The kings said they told Gaddafi they had no powers and that electing an >> African president is a political issue that the head of states and other >> politicians must decide upon. >> One view is that, flush with dollars from the recent boom in oil prices, >> Gaddafi has started on a new round of political adventurism. Mr Ndebesa >> said >> the Libyan leader is reversing the process of democratisation, whereas the >> African Union should be run on the principles of democracy. >> The idea of supporting and using monarchs who are conservatives to pursue >> his ideology raises questions as to whether he is creating a parallel >> African Union structure. >> Relevant Links >> >> - North Africa >> - Libya >> >> Mr Ndebesa added that the possibility that any of these monarchs could >> become a threat to their governments cannot be ruled out if Gaddafi's >> support helps make them financially independent. >> This is not the first time Gaddafi is attempting to create a unified >> nation. In 1972, he proclaimed the Federation of Arab Republics, hoping to >> create a pan-Arab state. >> The deputy chairman of the Uganda Muslim Youth Assembly, Imam Kasozi, who >> is also a lecturer at the Islamic University in Uganda, had some advice >> for >> Gaddafi: >> "If he overthrew a king, how does he now turn around and call himself King >> of Kings? He wants to be in power for eternity, but it does not work like >> that. >> *Reported by Michael Wakabi and Halima Abdallah K* >> ** >> ** >> *Now it is clear Migingo Hijack through Uganda is no-longer a mystery..... >> * >> ** >> Gaddafi Visits Uganda >> Daniel Kalinaki (The EastAfrican)?Libya?s President Col Muammar Gaddafi >> was >> expected to arrive in Kampala over the weekend to close an Afro-Arab >> Festival and preside over the opening of a mosque in the Ugandan capital >> whose construction he has funded. >> Ugandan officials said last Friday that Presidents Mwai Kibaki of Kenya, >> Paul Kagame of Rwanda, Abdoulaye Wade of Senegal, Pierre Nkurunziza of >> Burundi, Omar el Bashir of Sudan, Mamadou Tandja of Niger and Idriss Deby >> of >> Chad, were also expected to attend. >> >> Despite the philanthropic nature of the visit, Col Gaddafi?s first visit >> to >> Uganda in seven years underscores Libya?s growing portfolio of investments >> in the region and the political and economic weight it wields and is >> increasingly willing to use to acquire and defend its interests in the >> region and across the continent. >> >> Gaddafi?s relationship with Uganda goes back several decades; he was Idi >> Amin?s strongest political and military ally, and helped fund the >> five-year >> rebellion that brought President Yoweri Museveni to power in January 1986. >> During his last visit to Uganda ? on May 12, 2001, to attend Museveni?s >> swearing-in ceremony ? Gaddafi, who has been in power since 1967, >> described >> Museveni as a ?revolutionary? who should rule without having to undergo >> elections. >> >> The Libyan leader visited again in July the same year to attend >> festivities >> for King Oyo, the child-king of Tooro kingdom in western Uganda, and a >> beneficiary of Gaddafi?s largesse. >> >> Gaddafi also promoted Museveni?s son, Muhoozi Kainerugaba, then a second >> lieutenant, to major, a rank State House later clarified was honorary but >> which Muhoozi now holds legitimately, after undergoing several courses. >> >> Gaddafi?s visit comes amid a relative cooling of political ties between >> Tripoli and Kampala following President Museveni?s refusal to support >> Gaddafi?s call for an immediate Pan-African government during last July?s >> African Union Summit in Accra, Ghana, in preference for a unity model >> based >> around regional economic blocs. Gaddafi and Wade are expected to use the >> Kampala visit to rally support for their unification model ? and Libya has >> the economic clout to influence political positions. >> >> Libyan investment in the region has soared over the past decade, funded by >> record oil prices, through the Libya Africa Portfolio for Investments >> (LAP), >> the $5 billion sovereign wealth fund set up in 2006 whose subsidiaries >> include the Oil Libya Holding Company (formerly Tamoil Africa), the Libyan >> Arab Company for African Investments, Afriqiyah Airlines, the LAP Green >> Holding Company and various other projects and shareholdings. >> >> Tamoil won a bitterly disputed tender to construct the $100 million >> Eldoret-Kampala oil pipeline extension, whose construction is expected to >> start later in the year. LAP has also expanded into telecoms, acquiring 69 >> per cent of Ugandan Telecom Ltd (the Ugandan government owns the rest of >> the >> shares), and has paid $100 million to acquire 80 per cent of the formerly >> state-owned Rwandatel. The company has pledged to invest $317 million over >> the next five years to modernise the network and roll out a mobile >> telephony >> network. >> >> The Libyan sovereign wealth fund owns 100 per cent of the Lake Victoria >> Hotel in Entebbe, and 60 per cent of the 4-star Hotel Novotel Umubano in >> Kigali, in which the Rwandan government owns 40 per cent. It also owns 60 >> per cent of Tristar, a fledging company set up to export garments from >> Uganda to the United States under the Africa Growth and Opportunity Act, >> as >> well as 49 per cent of Uganda?s largest real-estate developer, the >> National >> Housing and Construction Corporation NHCC. >> >> Notably, some of the Libyan investments in Uganda ? in particular UTL, >> National Housing and Tristar ? were concluded under the table, without >> open >> bidding and often involved controversial debt-for-equity swaps. >> >> *The EastAfrican* reported last year that a committee of the Ugandan >> parliament was investigating claims that the country could have lost as >> much >> as $30 million in a debt-for-equity swap involving NHCC due to >> undervaluation of the latter. The deal involved swapping 49 per cent of >> the >> company?s equity, valued at $20.3 million, as part-settlement of an $88 >> million loan that Uganda took from Libya in 1989. The company was valued >> at >> Ush122 billion ($72 million) in 2004 and Ush119 billion ($70 million) in >> 2003, but the government used the accounts of the year 2002, when the >> company?s net worth was Ush70.6 billion ($41.5 million) only ? some $30 >> million less ? to negotiate the deal with the Libyans. >> >> The chairman of the Public Accounts Committee, Nandala Mafabi, told *The >> EastAfrican *at the time that National Housing ?was sold overnight because >> no due diligence was done and no adverts were seen in the press to this >> effect, so the agreement is illegal.? Finance ministry officials defended >> the deal and said the government would have had to pay more in interest >> and >> penalties had the deal not been concluded then. Chris Kassami, Permanent >> Secretary in the Ministry of Finance, said: ?If we did not sign that >> agreement, it meant that we had to pay $188 million there and then.? >> >> Away from the philanthropy, Libya is increasingly seeking to use its >> economic muscle to further its political and strategic interests on the >> continent. In January, Reuters news agency, quoting Libya?s official news >> agency Jana, said Gaddafi had threatened to divert the focus of the $5 >> billion sovereign wealth fund to the Mediterranean region if Africa >> ?sacrificed its future? and failed to form a common government. >> >> ?If Africa practised racism or wanted to sacrifice its future, Libya would >> then be able to scrap its current investment in Africa and move it to the >> Mediterranean region,? Gaddafi was quoted as saying before the AU summit >> in >> Addis Ababa in February. >> >> In his speech, made to an audience of ?African citizens and African >> leaders,? Gaddafi made it clear that Libya?s investments on the continent >> are not purely philanthropic. ?This money is invested by Libya in Africa >> not >> to be given to Africans for free, but for a return to Libyans,? he said. >> >> Gaddafi has not hidden his desire to give the continent?s Arabic speakers >> more clout, preferably through a single unified government, and his visit >> to >> Kampala for the Afro-Arab Youth festival and mosque-opening is telling. >> >> His vision of African unity is countered by the South African-led view of >> the phased approach, a gradual process that Gaddafi warned in his January >> speech could lead to a continental chasm along racial lines. >> >> He said: ?And it would be possible that the Sahara would be the dividing >> line of the continent into white and black Africa, with North Africa, >> headed >> by Libya, linking its future to Europe.? >> >> Libya?s investment on the continent, therefore, is as much a search for >> economic returns as it is for political reward. It is not happening in a >> vacuum ? South African investment on the continent has soared over the >> past >> decade, with firms like Stanbic, MTN, Vodacom and Shoprite becoming >> continental brand names. >> >> Nigeria, flush with oil cash, has also set up a sovereign wealth fund and >> Nigerian firms have started investing in the banking and insurance sectors >> in West and East Africa. >> >> East Africa has become the beachhead for the new contest between South >> Africa and Nigeria on the one hand, and Libya on the other. The new >> dazzling >> mosque in Old Kampala is as much, therefore, a symbol of Libya?s >> friendship >> as it is of its determination to win the battle of minds, hearts and the >> future of Africa. >> >> >> >> http://www.pambazuka.org/aumonitor/comments/1156/ >> >> >> Posted by >> Hakimaon >> 03/17 at 11:46 AM >> Next entry: India-Africa >> Summit >> Previous entry: AU Reviews >> Elections >> >> *DONT TRUST KALONZO HE HAS RECEIVED CAMPAIGN MONEY FROM GADAFI * >> *TO DELIVER LUO NYANZA TO LIBYA PRESIDENT MUAMAR GADDAFI ....Whatch >> this....* >> ** >> Uganda: Why Gaddafi Visited Mengo Without Museveni Posted: 2008/03/27 >> From: Source >> >> Gaddafi, with the help of the corrupt Ugandan "businessman" Habib Kagimu, >> pays a surprise visit to President Museveni's "lying, arrogant" opponent, >> allegedly as revenge for Museveni's lack of support for Gaddafi's "United >> States of Africa" project >> >> >> *By Ssemujju Ibrahim Nganda* >> >> Was the Libyan leader's >> visit to Buganda Kingdom orchestrated to 'back stab' and embarrass his >> host, >> President Museveni? There are indicators that the eccentric Col. Muammar >> Gaddafi decided to visit Museveni's apparent political foes to get back at >> him for not supporting the colonel's plan to form one African >> government >> . >> >> The relationship between Museveni and Gaddafi has taken a nosedive since >> 2005 when the former reneged on supporting the latter's campaign for one >> African government . >> President Museveni instead backed South African President Thabo Mbeki's >> view >> of forming an economic union first. >> >> The Weekly Observer exclusively reported about this disagreement in the >> story, 'Angry Gaddafi Refuses to Give Museveni $5m Campaign Money,' on >> January 19, 2006. >> >> Since then, the relations between the two heads of state have not been the >> same. >> >> Indeed, Gaddafi snubbed Museveni's swearing-in ceremony in May 2006 and >> has >> turned down several invitations after that. >> >> Gaddafi's return to >> Ugandathis month was >> generally seen as a sign that the relations had warmed up, >> but it appears Gaddafi hasn't forgiven, let alone forget. >> >> The Libyan leader who was in Uganda from March 16 - 20 to close the >> Afro-Arab youth festival and open a mosque built with his money at Old >> Kampala, unexpectedly drove to Bulange (administrative seat of Buganda) >> for >> a 37-minute meeting with kingdom officials. >> >> Visiting Bulange per se was not strange because Gaddafi has shown interest >> in Ugandan traditions before, particularly his friendship with the Toro >> kingdom. >> >> What surprised observers was instead the timing of his visit, and the >> likelihood that it may not have been sanctioned by his host. Museveni and >> Buganda are currently not seeing eye-to-eye as a result of sharp >> differences >> on the government's proposed amendments to the Land Act 1998. >> >> President Museveni says the law will stop illegal mass evictions, but >> Buganda insists it's a ploy to grab the kingdom's vast land. >> >> It was therefore inconceivable, political observers say, for a high >> profile >> guest of the President to call on the kingdom that is now increasingly >> viewed as being hostile to the >> regime >> . >> >> At first it was thought that Museveni wanted to use Gaddafi to mend his >> relations with Buganda, but the fact that he arrived without any >> government >> official , unannounced, >> has discounted this thinking. >> >> Instead, reliable sources have told The Weekly Observer that Gaddafi >> intended to embarrass, or even annoy, his host. >> >> According to these sources, Gaddafi had initially planned to meet some >> leaders of the opposition, but he was advised against it. Eventually >> Buganda >> was agreed on as a less 'lethal' weapon of his revenge. >> >> Sources at Mengo have intimated that the Kabaka, who was in the UK at the >> time, was at first uncomfortable with the meeting, but decided to endorse >> it >> to get at Museveni as well. >> * >> Only Nagginda knew?* >> >> Although the visit was a surprise to many at Mengo, more so in government, >> reliable sources have told The Weekly Observer that at least one Mengo >> official had prior knowledge of it. It is suspected that this official was >> Nnabagereka Sylvia Nagginda, the Kabaka's wife. >> >> According to our sources, Hajji *Habib Kagimu*, a friend to Gaddafi and >> interpreter during the Bulange meeting; who was behind the Nnabagereka's >> visit to Libya some time back, was the architect of this surprise meeting. >> >> After addressing women at the Serena International Conference Centre on >> March 18, Gaddafi was expected to >> travelto State House >> Entebbe for dinner with other heads of state he invited to >> Uganda. Instead, Gaddafi drove to Bulange. >> >> Sources at Bulange have told The Weekly Observer, that even the Katikkiro, >> John Baptist Walusimbi, had not been updated about the visit. He was only >> informed on phone. >> >> In fact, most officials and staff at Bulange got wind of Gaddafi's arrival >> after security officials descended on Bulange and Lubiri like bees, two >> hours before the controversial visit. No Uganda government official was >> present during the brief visit. >> >> *Gaddafi plans* >> >> During a private meeting with the Katikkiro, Gaddafi reportedly told his >> host that he prefers to work with traditional establishments like Buganda >> to >> realise his African Union dream. >> >> He said, according to our sources, that the African Union is being >> frustrated by the colonial structures of 'presidents'. >> >> This statement could be interpreted as a criticism of Museveni who refused >> to back Gaddafi's United States of Africa vision. >> >> Gaddafi feels betrayed by the majority of African >> leaderswho don't support >> his African dream, and is keen to take his message to the >> African peoples themselves. >> >> Our sources at Mengo said officials there complained to the Libyan leader >> about the government's refusal to hand over their property. >> >> Ironically, Gaddafi who now professes love for traditional establishments >> deposed King Idris in a 1969 coup d'etat and abolished the kingdom. >> >> As if to strengthen his new found love, Gaddafi invited the Kabaka and his >> ministers to Libya to sign a memorandum of understanding on trade and >> business. >> >> At the end of the meeting he was presented with two portraits of Kabaka >> Ronald Mutebi and his wife Sylvia Nagginda. He was also given a royal drum >> and spear. >> >> *Raison d'etre* >> >> Buganda's Minister of Information and Cabinet Affairs, Charles Peter >> Mayiga, declined to comment on the controversial visit when approached >> this >> week. >> >> But the Minister of Ethics and Integrity, Dr. James Nsaba Buturo, who >> chaired the Gaddafi visit organising committee, said the visit was not >> part >> of his programme because it was "private". Buturo however insisted that >> government knew about it. >> >> The President's Press Secretary, Joseph Tamale Mirundi, on the other hand, >> downplayed the friction between Museveni and Mengo. >> >> "President Museveni is not at war with Mengo. His concerns are the lies >> and >> arrogance of Mengo. Mengo as the biggest landlord has a right to express >> itself on the Land Bill," he said. >> >> Besides, Tamale argued, Gaddafi was not a prisoner who could be confined >> to >> one place. # >> ** >> ** >> >> BLOOD MONEY OUT OF AFRICA >> >> [On 6 April, 2001 Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (D), GA. Boldly sponsored >> a forum on the totally ignored rape of Africa - a key part of the current >> headlong rush toward globalization. *FTW *has been woefully silent about >> Africa as we have reported on trends elsewhere in the world. We admit that >> this has been partially out of ignorance which we begin to correct now by >> posting (with permission) this report on her forum. As the planet >> coalesces >> with frightening speed into three dominant economic regions (The Western >> Hemisphere, Europe and Asia) it is critical to understand that the carnage >> in Africa can only accelerate. McKinney, who sits on the House >> International >> Relations Committee, is to be commended for her non-partisan critique of >> both Democratic and Republican Administrations. The following is about as >> ugly as it gets. - *FTW*] >> >> Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney >> >> Covert Action in Africa: A Smoking Gun in Washington, D.C. >> >> Rayburn House Office Building >> Friday, April 6, 2001 >> 10:00am - 12:00 noon >> >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >> >> Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney >> >> OPENING STATEMENT >> >> I want to thank you all for coming today. >> >> I especially want to thank our esteemed speakers for traveling, in some >> instances quite a long way, to be with us today. >> >> Our speakers are courageous individuals who have gone to many of Africa's >> most dangerous and desperately poor locations, not for wealth or riches, >> but >> in order to merely discover the truth. They provide us with a remarkable >> insight into what has gone on in Africa and what continues to go on in >> Africa today. >> >> Much of what you will hear today has not been widely reported in the >> public >> media. Powerful forces have fought to suppress these stories from entering >> the public domain. >> >> Their investigations into the activities of Western governments and >> Western >> businessmen in postcolonial Africa provide clear evidence of the West's >> long-standing propensity for cruelty, avarice, and treachery. The >> misconduct >> of Western nations in Africa is not due to momentary lapses, individual >> defects, or errors of common human frailty. Instead, they form part of >> long-term malignant policy designed to access and plunder Africa's wealth >> at >> the expense of Africa's people. In short, the accounts you are about to >> hear >> provide an indictment of Western activities in Africa. >> >> The West has, for decades, plundered Africa's wealth and permitted, and >> even, assisted in slaughtering Africa's people. The West has been able to >> do >> this while still shrewdly cultivating the myth that much of Africa's >> problems today are African made--we have all heard the usual Western >> defenses that Africa's problems are the fault of corrupt African >> administrations, centuries-old tribal hatreds, the fault of >> unsophisticated >> peoples. But we know that those statements are all a lie. We have always >> known it. >> >> The accounts we are about to hear today assist us in understanding just >> why >> Africa is in the state it is in today. You will hear that at the heart of >> Africa's suffering is the West's, and most notably the United States', >> desire to access Africa's diamonds, oil, natural gas, and other precious >> resources. >> >> You will hear that the West, and most notably the United States, has set >> in >> motion a policy of oppression, destabilization and tempered, not by moral >> principle, but by a ruthless desire to enrich itself on Africa's fabulous >> wealth. While falsely pretending to be the friends and allies of many >> African countries, so desperate for help and assistance, many western >> nations have in reality betrayed those countries' trust--and instead, have >> relentlessly pursued their own selfish military and economic policies. >> Western countries have incited rebellion against stable African >> governments >> by encouraging and even arming opposition parties and rebel groups to >> begin >> armed insurrection. >> >> The Western nations have even actively participated in the assassination >> of >> duly elected and legitimate African Heads of State and replaced them with >> corrupted and malleable officials. Western nations have even encouraged >> and >> been complicit in the unlawful invasions by African nations into >> neighboring >> counties. >> >> Something must be done to right these wrongs. >> >> I invite you to listen and learn first-hand of the West's activities in >> Africa. >> >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >> >> Prepared Statement of Wayne Madsen >> >> WHAT A DIFFERENCE AN ELECTION MAKES: OR DOES IT? >> >> Wayne Madsen is an investigative journalist who has written for The >> Village >> Voice, The Progressive, CAQ, and the Intelligence Newsletter. He is the >> author of Genocide and Covert Activities in Africa 1993-1999 (Lewiston, >> NY: >> Edwin Mellen, 1999), an expose of U.S. and French intelligence activities >> in >> Africa's recent civil wars and ethnic rebellions. He served as an on-air >> East Africa analyst for ABC News in the aftermath of the 1998 U.S. embassy >> bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. Mr. Madsen has appeared on 60 Minutes, >> World >> News Tonight, Nightline, 20/20, MS-NBC, and NBC Nightly News, among >> others. >> He has been frequently quoted by the Associated Press, foreign wire >> services, and many national and international newspapers. >> >> Mr. Madsen is also the author of a motion picture screen play treatment >> about the nuclear submarine USS Scorpion. He is a former U.S. Naval >> Officer >> and worked for the National Security Agency and U.S. Naval >> Telecommunications Command. >> >> --- >> >> I wish to discuss the record of American policy in Africa over most of the >> past decade, particularly that involving the central African Great Lakes >> region. It is a policy that has rested, in my opinion, on the twin pillars >> of unrestrained military aid and questionable trade. The military aid >> programs of the United States, largely planned and administered by the >> U.S. >> Special Operations Command and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), have >> been both overt and covert. >> >> ACRI, ACSS, and the covert programs all involve the use of private >> military >> training firms and logistics support contractors that are immune to >> Freedom >> of Information Act requests. More troubling than these overt problems are >> those that involve covert assistance to the Rwandan and Ugandan >> militaries. >> Sources in the Great Lakes region consistently report the presence of a >> U.S.-built military base near Cyangugu, Rwanda, near the Congolese border. >> The base, reported to have been partly constructed by the U.S. firm Brown >> & >> Root, a subsidiary of Halliburton, is said to be involved with training >> RPF >> forces and providing logistics support to their troops in the DRC. >> >> The increasing reliance by the Department of Defense on so-called Private >> Military Contractors (PMCs) is of special concern. Many of these PMCs -- >> once labeled as "mercenaries" by previous administrations when they were >> used as foreign policy instruments by the colonial powers of France, >> Belgium, Portugal, and South Africa -- have close links with some of the >> largest mining and oil companies involved in Africa today. PMCs, because >> of >> their proprietary status, have a great deal of leeway to engage in covert >> activities far from the reach of congressional investigators. They can >> simply claim that their business in various nations is a protected trade >> secret and the law now seems to be on their side. >> >> THE DESTABILIZATION OF AFRICA >> >> America's policy toward Africa during the past decade, rather than seeking >> to stabilize situations where civil war and ethnic turmoil reign supreme, >> has seemingly promoted destabilization. Former Secretary of State >> Madeleine >> Albright was fond of calling pro-U.S. military leaders in Africa who >> assumed >> power by force and then cloaked themselves in civilian attire, "beacons of >> hope." >> >> In reality, these leaders, who include the current presidents of Uganda, >> Rwanda, Ethiopia, Angola, Eritrea, Burundi, and the Democratic Republic of >> the Congo preside over countries where ethnic and civil turmoil permit >> unscrupulous international mining companies to take advantage of the >> strife >> to fill their own coffers with conflict diamonds, gold, copper, platinum, >> and other precious minerals including one that is a primary component of >> computer microchips. >> >> Some of the companies involved in this new "scramble for Africa" have >> close >> links with PMCs and America's top political leadership. For example, >> America >> Minerals Fields, Inc., a company that was heavily involved in promoting >> the >> 1996 accession to power of the late Congolese President Laurent-Desire >> Kabila, was, at the time of its involvement in the Congo's civil war, >> headquartered in Hope, Arkansas. Its major stockholders included long-time >> associates of former President Clinton going back to his days as Governor >> of >> Arkansas. America Mineral Fields also reportedly enjoys a close >> relationship >> with Lazare Kaplan International, Inc., a major international diamond >> brokerage whose president remains a close confidant of past and current >> administrations on Africa matters. >> >> One of the major goals of the Rwandan-backed Rassemblement Congolais pour >> la Democratie (RCD), a group fighting the Kabila government in Congo, is >> restoration of mining concessions for Barrick Gold, Inc. of Canada. In >> fact, >> the rebel RCD government's "mining minister" signed a separate mining deal >> with Barrick in early 1999. Among the members of Barrick's International >> Advisory Board are former President Bush and former President Clinton's >> close confidant Vernon Jordan. >> >> Currently, Barrick and tens of other mining companies are stoking the >> flames of the civil war in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Each >> benefits by the de facto partition of the country into some four separate >> zones of political control. First the mineral exploiters from Rwanda and >> Uganda concentrated on pillaging gold and diamonds from the eastern Congo. >> Now, they have increasingly turned their attention to a valuable black >> sand >> called columbite-tantalite or "col-tan." Col-tan is a key material in >> computer chips and, therefore, is as considered a strategic mineral. It is >> my hope that the Bush administration will take pro-active measures to stem >> this conflict by applying increased pressure on Uganda and Rwanda to >> withdraw their troops from the country. However, the fact that President >> Bush has selected Walter Kansteiner to be Assistant Secretary of State for >> African, portends, in my opinion, more trouble for the Great Lakes region. >> A >> brief look at Mr. Kansteiner's curriculum vitae and statements calls into >> question his commitment to seeking a durable peace in the region. For >> example, he has envisaged the splitting up of the Great Lakes region into >> separate Tutsi and Hutu states through "relocation" efforts and has called >> the break-up of the DRC inevitable. I believe Kansteiner's previous work >> at >> the Department of Defense where he served on a Task Force on Strategic >> Minerals and one must certainly consider col-tan as falling into that >> category -- may influence his past and current thinking on the territorial >> integrity of the DRC. After all, 80 per cent of the world's known reserves >> of col-tan are found in the eastern DRC. It is potentially as important to >> the U.S. military as the Persian Gulf region. >> >> The U.S. military and intelligence agencies, which have supported Uganda >> and Rwanda in their cross-border adventures in the DRC, have resisted >> peace >> initiatives and have failed to produce evidence of war crimes by the >> Ugandans and Rwandans and their allies in Congo. The CIA, NSA, and DIA >> should turn over to international investigators both signals intelligence >> and human intelligence evidence in their possession, as well as overhead >> imagery, including thermal imagery indicating the presence of mass graves >> and when they were dug. There must be a full accounting before the >> Congress >> by the staff of the U.S. Defense Attache's Office in Kigali who served >> there >> from early 1994 to the present time. >> >> A LINGERING QUESTION ON ASSASSINATIONS >> >> The present turmoil in central Africa largely stems from a fateful >> incident >> that occurred on April 6, 1994. That was the missile attack on the Rwandan >> presidential aircraft that resulted in the death of Rwanda's Hutu >> President >> Juvenal Habyarimana, his colleague President Cyprien Ntaryamira of >> Burundi, >> Habyarimana's chief advisers, and the French crew. >> >> This aerial assassination resulted in a genocide coordinated by the >> successor militant Hutu Rwandan government that cost the lives of some >> 800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus. This was followed by a counter-genocide >> orchestrated by the Tutsi-led Rwanda Patriotic Front (RPF) government that >> resulted in the deaths of 500,000 mostly Hutu refugees in Rwanda and >> neighboring Zaire/Congo. >> >> No one has even identified the assassins of the two presidents let alone >> sought to bring them to justice. There have been a number of national and >> international commissions that have looked into the causes for the Rwandan >> genocide. These have included investigations by the Belgian Senate, the >> French National Assembly, the United Nations, and the Organization of >> African Unity. None of these investigations have identified the >> perpetrators >> of the aerial assassination. In 1998, French Judge Jean-Louis Bruguiere >> launched an investigation of the aircraft attack. After interviewing >> witnesses in Switzerland, Rwanda, Tanzania, and Russia, Bruguiere >> apparently >> has enough evidence to issue an international arrest warrant for President >> Kagame. A former French Judge, Thierry Jean-Pierre, now a Member of the >> European Parliament, in an entirely separate and private investigation, >> came >> to the same conclusion that Kagame was behind the attack. The United >> States >> government must come to its senses, as it did with past intelligence >> assets >> like Sadaam Hussein, Alberto Fujimori, General Suharto, Ferdinand Marcos, >> and Manuel Noriega, and support a judicial accounting by Kagame. If it is >> proven that U.S. citizens were in any way involved in planning the >> assassination, they should also be brought to justice before the >> international war crimes tribunal. >> >> Immediately after the attack on the presidential plane, much of the >> popular >> press in the United States brandished the theory that militant Hutus >> brought >> it down. I suggest that following some four years of research >> concentrating >> on the missile attack, there is no basis for this conclusion. In fact, I >> believe there is concrete evidence to show that the plane was shot down by >> operatives of the RPF. At the time, the RPF was supported by the United >> States and its major ally in the region, Uganda. Prior to the attack, the >> RPF leader, the current Rwandan strongman General Paul Kagame, received >> military training at the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College at >> Fort >> Leavenworth, Kansas. Many of Kagame's subordinates received similar >> training, including instruction in the use of surface-to-air missiles >> (SAMs) >> at the Barry Goldwater Air Force Range at Luke Air Force Base, Arizona. It >> was Soviet-designed SAMs that were used to shoot down the Rwandan >> president's airplane. By its own admission, the U.S. Defense Department >> provided official military training to the RPF beginning in January 1994, >> three months before the missile attack on the aircraft. >> >> In testimony before the French inquiry commission, former French Minister >> for International Cooperation Bernard Debre insisted that the two SAM-16s >> used in the attack on the aircraft were procured from Ugandan military >> stocks and were "probably delivered by the Americans . . . from the Gulf >> War." He was supported by two former heads of the French foreign >> intelligence service (DGSE) Jacques Dewatre and Claude Silberzahn, as well >> as General Jean Heinrich, the former head of French military intelligence >> (DRM). Former moderate Hutu Defense Minister James Gasana, who served >> under >> Habyarimana from April 1992 to July 1993, stated before the French inquiry >> that his government declined to purchase SAMs because they realized the >> RPF >> had no planes and, therefore, procurement of such weapons would have been >> a >> waste of money. >> >> The contention by French government officials that the RPF was responsible >> for the aerial attack is supported by three former RPF intelligence >> officers >> who disclosed details of the operation to UN investigators. The three >> informants were rated as Category 2 witnesses on a 4-point scale where 1 >> is >> highly credible and 2 is "true but untested." The RPF informants claim the >> plane was downed by an elite 10-member RPF team with the "assistance of a >> foreign government." Some of the team members are apparently now deceased. >> A >> confidential UN report on the plane attack was delivered to the head of >> the >> UN War Crimes Tribunal, Judge Louise Arbour of Canada, but was never made >> public. In fact, Arbour terminated the investigation when details of the >> RPF's involvement in the assassination became clear. The UN now denies >> such >> a report exists. Michael Hourigan, an Australian lawyer who first worked >> as >> an International War Crimes Tribunal investigator and then for the UN's >> Office of Internal Oversight Services, confirmed that the initial war >> crimes >> investigation team uncovered evidence of the RPF's involvement in the >> attack >> but their efforts were undercut by senior UN staff. >> >> After the former RPF intelligence team revealed details of the attack, >> they >> were supported by yet another former RPF intelligence officer named Jean >> Pierre Mugabe. In a separate declaration, Mugabe contended that the >> assassination was directed by Kagame and RPF deputy commander-in-chief >> James >> Kabarebe. The RPF, according to Mugabe, campaigned extensively for the >> regional peace meeting in Dar es Salaam from which Habyarimana was >> returning >> when he was assassinated. Mugabe claimed the idea was to collect the top >> Hutu leadership on the plane in order to easily eliminate them in the >> attack. >> >> Yet another defector from the RPF, Christophe Hakizabera, in a declaration >> to a UN investigation commission, states that the "foreign power" that >> helped the RPF shoot down the airplane was, in fact, Uganda. According to >> Hakizabera, the first and second assassination planning meetings were held >> in Uganda in the towns of Kabale and Mbarara, respectively. A third, in >> which Kagame was present, was held in March 1994 in Bobo-Dioulasso, >> Burkina >> Faso. >> >> As it did with the three other RPF defectors, the UN took no action as a >> result of this complaint. It appears, and this is supported by private >> conversations I have had with former UN officials, that some other party >> is >> calling the shots in the world body's investigation of human rights >> violations in Africa. >> >> The involvement of Uganda in the assassination tends to support the >> contention of the former French government ministers that the SAMs were >> provided to Uganda by the United States from captured Iraqi arms caches >> during Desert Storm. My own research indicates that these missiles were >> delivered to Uganda via a CIA-run arms depot outside of Cairo, Egypt. >> After >> the transfer, Uganda kept some of the missiles and launchers for its own >> armed forces and delivered the remainder to the Sudan People's Liberation >> Army (SPLA) and the RPF. >> >> Other evidence pointing to an RPF role in the attack includes COMINT >> (communications intelligence) picked up by military units and civilian >> radio >> operators in Rwanda. A Rwandan Armed Forces COMINT listening station >> picked >> up a transmission on an RPF frequency, which stated "the target is hit." >> This was reported to a Togolese member of the UN Assistance Mission for >> Rwanda (UNAMIR). A Belgian amateur radio operator reported that after the >> attack, he heard someone on a frequency used by a Belgian PMC in Kigali >> state, "We killed Le Grand (Habyarimana)." The Belgian operator also >> stated >> that all Rwandan Armed Forces messages following the attack indicated the >> Rwandan army was in complete disarray n something that would not have been >> the case had the Rwandan government perpetrated the attack on its own >> president. Another source of COMINT was a French signals intelligence unit >> sent to Kigali from the French military base in Bangui, Central African >> Republic. According to French Judge Jean-Pierre, copies of French >> intercepts >> of RPF communications indicate, beyond a doubt, the culpability of the RPF >> in the attack on the aircraft. >> >> Some formerly classified US State Department cables, which I received >> following a Freedom of Information Act request, reveal that the U.S. >> foreign >> policy establishment was of two minds over the April 6 attack. The U.S. >> Embassy in Burundi kept a surprisingly open mind about its theories about >> the missile attack, even suggesting a Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF) role >> in >> it. Other U.S. diplomatic posts, most notably that in Kigali, seemed to >> follow the script that the aircraft was downed by hard-line Hutus who >> wanted >> to implement a well-planned genocide of Tutsis and moderate Hutus. >> >> A May 25, 1994 Secret message from the Department of State to all African >> diplomatic posts also reports that "the RPF has summarily executed Hutu >> militia alleged to have been involved in the massacres and the RPF has >> admitted to such killings." The same message states that "Rwandan >> government >> officials who controlled the airport" or "French military officials" >> recovered the downed presidential aircraft's black box after securing the >> airport and removing the body of the French pilot from Habyarimana's >> plane. >> However, according to officials I interviewed who were involved with UN >> air >> movements in the region, the black box was secretly transported to UN >> Headquarters in New York where it remains to this day. >> Officially, the Rwandan government claims the black box went missing. >> According to the UN investigators, the black box was spirited away by UN >> officials from Kigali to New York via Nairobi. In addition, this shipment >> was known to US government officials. According to the UN sources, data >> from >> the black box is being withheld by the UN under pressure from our own >> government. The investigators also revealed that RPF forces controlled >> three >> major approaches to Kayibanda Airport on the evening of the attack and >> that >> European mercenaries, in the pay of the RPF and US intelligence, planned >> and >> launched the missile attack on the Mystere-Falcon. The CIA figured >> prominently in the UN investigation of the missile attack. According to >> the >> investigators, the search for the assassins ultimately led to a warehouse >> in >> Kanombe, near the airport. From this warehouse, during the afternoon of >> April 6, the missile launchers were assembled and readied for action by >> the >> mercenaries. As the UN investigation team was nearing its final conclusion >> and was prepared to turn up evidence indicating the warehouse had been >> leased by a Swiss company, said to be linked to U.S. intelligence, its >> mandate was swiftly terminated. >> >> CONCLUSION >> >> It is clear that the United States, contrary to comments made by its >> senior >> officials, including former President Clinton, played more of a role in >> the >> Rwandan tragedy than it readily admits. This involvement continued through >> the successive Rwandan and Ugandan-led invasions of neighboring >> Zaire/Congo. >> Speculation that Rwanda was behind the recent assassination of President >> Laurent Kabila in Congo (and rumors that the CIA was behind it) has done >> little to put the United States in a favorable light in the region. After >> all, the date of Kabila's assassination on January 16 this year -- was >> practically 40 years from the very day of the CIA-planned and executed >> assassination of Congolese leader Patrice Lumumba. >> >> The quick pace at which Kabila's son and successor Joseph Kabila visited >> the United States at the same time of Kagame's presence, and his >> subsequent >> meetings with Corporate Council for Africa officials and Maurice >> Tempelsman >> (the majordomo of U.S. Africa policy), calls into question what the United >> States knew about the assassination and when it knew about it. >> >> Also, particularly troublesome is a conclusion the CIA is said to have >> reached in an assessment written in January 1994, a few months before the >> genocide. According to key officials I have interviewed during my >> research, >> that analysis came to the conclusion that in the event that President >> Habyarimana was assassinated, the minimum number of deaths resulting from >> the mayhem in Rwanda would be 500 (confined mostly to Kigali and environs) >> and the maximum 500,000. Regrettably, the CIA's higher figure was closer >> to >> reality. >> >> Certain interests in the United States had reason to see Habyarimana and >> other pro-French leaders in central Africa out of the way. As recently >> written by Gilbert Ngijol, a former Assistant to the Special >> Representative >> of the Secretary General of the UN to Rwanda in 1994, the United States >> directly benefited economically from the loss of influence of French and >> Belgian mining interests in the central Africa and Great Lakes regions. >> >> There is also reason to believe that a number of people with knowledge of >> Kagame's plot against the presidential aircraft have been assassinated. >> These possibly include Tanzania's former intelligence chief, Major General >> Imran Kombe, shot dead by policemen in northeastern Tanzania after he was >> mistaken for a notorious car thief. His wife maintains he was >> assassinated. >> Kombe had knowledge of not only the planned assassination of the Rwandan >> and >> Burundian presidents but a plot against Kenya's President Moi and Zaire's >> President Mobutu, as well. There is a belief that Roman Catholic >> Archbishop >> of Bukavu, Emmanuel Kataliko, was assassinated last October in Rome by >> members of a Rwandan hit team acting on orders from Kagame. Other Tutsi >> and >> Hutu leaders who oppose Kagame's regime continue to flee Rwanda to the >> U.S. >> and France in fear of their lives. Rwanda's figurehead Hutu President >> Pasteur Bizimungu was forced to resign last year under pressure from the >> only power in Rwanda, his then-Vice President, Paul Kagame. Deus >> Kagiraneza, >> a former intelligence officer in Kagame's Military Intelligence >> Directorate >> (DMI), interim Prefect of the Ruhengeri province, and member of the >> Parliament, is now in exile in Belgium. He charges that Kagame's top >> government and military are responsible for torturing and executing their >> political opponents. Kagiraneza maintains that the RPF has pursued such >> policies since the time of the 1990 invasion of Rwanda from Uganda. >> >> It is beyond time for the Congress to seriously examine the role of the >> United States in the genocide and civil wars of central Africa, as well as >> the role that PMCs currently play in other African trouble spots like >> Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Equatorial Guinea, Angola, Ethiopia, and Cabinda. >> Other nations, some with less than stellar records in Africa, France and >> Belgium for example, have had no problem examining their own roles in >> Africa's last decade of turmoil. At the very least, the United States, as >> the world's leading democracy, owes Africa at least the example of a >> critical self-inspection. >> >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >> >> Prepared Statement of Keith Snow >> >> Thank you Representative McKinney for organizing this very important >> forum. >> >> >> I find it particularly remarkable that the diamond exports from the >> Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) were some US$897 million in 1997. Now >> this is a "country" which was in a major war. And then in 1998, DRC ranked >> second in diamond production at 25.7 million carats. Again, a country in a >> brutal war where hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people and in fact >> I >> think it is millions of people -- suffered the consequences through >> disease >> and despair and displacement and rape and hunger and robbery and often >> death. >> >> Based on my research, this is a western syndicated proxy war, and like >> Sierra Leone, Angola and Sudan, it is war-as-cover for the rapid and >> unrestricted extraction of raw materials, and war as a means to totally >> disenfranchise the local people. Diamonds, gold, columbium tantalite, >> niobium, cobalt, manganese and petroleum, natural gas and timber and >> possibly uranium -- are a few of the major spoils being pillaged behind >> the >> scenes as war ravages DRC and some of these minerals are almost solely >> found >> in DRC, especially cobalt, niobium, columbium tantalite. >> >> Barrick Gold provides a convenient example using war-as-cover. According >> to >> testimony I took in western Uganda in November, Barrick Gold is operating >> in >> the Kilo Moto mines near Bunia. These mines are reportedly protected by >> UPDF. An Israeli General was awarded another Kilo Moto concession and UPDF >> and RCD operate others. And there is massive ivory poaching again >> protection >> rackets going on. Barrick Advisory Board member George Bush and his CIA >> connections certainly play into these mining deals and lay the groundwork >> a.k.a. slaughter if necessary to get the product. That includes long-time >> links to people like CIA station operative in Zaire Lawrence Devlin for >> example, and his associations with the Templesmans. Look at the CIA >> operations in Lubumbashi and you will probably find connections to the >> repression and massacres of students at the University of Lubumbashi in >> the >> early 1990s. >> >> George Bush apparently telephoned Mobutu just prior to the first US >> supported invasion of Congo August 1996 on behalf of Swedish Financier >> Adolph Lundin to negotiate a deal over the Kilo Moto fields. And the US >> Presidential Election outcome of 1996 was completely irrelevant to the >> invasion of Zaire and the replacement of Mobutu. Remember that Kagame was >> in >> Washington about August 1996 checking his battle plans with the Pentagon. >> Mobutu's days were numbered. >> >> The US took all the right decisions to allow the Rwanda genocide to >> unfold. >> And Clinton's comment that "we didn't know what was going on at the time" >> couldn't have been a bigger lie. Do you suppose it was coincidental that a >> Rwanda delegate rotated on to the security council early in 1994 and then >> worked with US representatives to block all subsequent attempts to deal >> appropriately with the unfolding slaughter? >> >> The Lundin Group appears also to be involved in south Katanga, where they >> are into the Tenke Fungarume copper/cobalt concessions. This is near where >> America Mineral Fields International and Anglo American are operating as >> well. And these are a few of the many mining companies. >> >> All these US military programs like IMET and E-IMET, ACRI and JCET are >> designed to consolidate US hegemony. UPDF and RCD and SPLA have >> conscripted >> child soldiers. They use sophisticated weapons not only the machetes so >> widely advertised by the media propaganda front of 1994 which sowed >> indifference and apathy in the US public. Troops have been trained by US >> green berets and US military personnel have worked to coordinate SPLA and >> RPF/UPDF/RCD military campaigns. This is according to Ugandan dissidents >> and/or Congolese refugees fleeing Congo and/or ex-patriots on the ground. >> And there are plenty of people who support these statements. >> >> Weapons are reportedly shipped in through Entebbe. Again, people testified >> to seeing "American blacks" -- quote Negroes unquote traveling in the >> area, >> both in Uganda and in Eastern DRC, but they are always very clandestine >> and >> they don't mingle or talk to people. One refugee cited the locations of >> jungle camps where western he said American military advisors were >> training >> RCD or RPF or UPDF guerrillas in counterinsurgency and heavy artillery >> operations. Again, this was in November. >> >> Note that the whole Tutsi contre-genocide against Hutus is off the radar >> screen of people in the US and that's because the media has covered for >> the >> powerful interests and US agenda of consolidating power in the region by >> any >> means necessary. In fact, the RPF have actually "turned" Interahamwe to >> their service in doing the dirty work of eliminating any dissidents and >> insurgents and creating a situation defined by the media as >> incomprehensible >> tribal warfare. >> >> It was reported to me that UPDF will disguise themselves as their enemies >> and attack villages to provide justification to return and sweep n a.k.a. >> brutalize or rape or pillage these villages. They have also reportedly >> used >> these tactics to substantiate their needs for international support >> weapons >> and funds and military expertise from US and UK backers, funds and >> equipment >> which was often diverted to the secret US SPLA war against Khartoum, for >> example. >> >> But war doesn't seem to be essential to the plan. Multinational >> >> corporations-- a very significant constellation of US companies and/or US >> citizens included, are everywhere stripping the resources, leaving >> pollution >> and disease and environmental disasters in their wakes. And you might >> probe >> into the whole classified nuclear waste transshipments programs. >> >> Nigeria, Cameroon, Gabon, Togo, Niger, Madagascar and Burkina Faso provide >> examples, being massively exploited, where military repression and >> structural adjustment and the concomitant destitution suffice to enable >> lucrative western control and exploitation. Zambia, Tanzania, Namibia, >> Botswana and Ghana are a few more examples where I have similarly >> witnessed >> profound human suffering amidst huge multinational profits and SAP. I >> mean, >> 120 years after the British invasion of western Zambia this is an area >> heavily burdened by refugee flows out of Angola and DRC and the >> concomitant >> insecurity of insurgent nomadic military forces -- the people have >> absolutely no possessions. The schools don't exist and even if they do >> there >> are no books and the kids are so destitute that they often can't attend in >> any case. You can't buy basic staples. I mean absolutely no food, no >> medicine, no drugs for malaria. Some 30% of people in Zambia don't even >> know >> that malaria is caused by mosquitoes. But you can buy Coca-Cola and Sprite >> and Fanta virtually everywhere, but there are usually no basic foodstuffs, >> no books, no medical supplies. You cannot imagine the suffering until you >> live it yourself. >> >> And it is no coincidence that one of the directors of Coca Cola now I >> think >> that's a US company -- is also a Director of Elf, and ELFs corrupt >> practices >> have been mildly exposed but very, very mildly. >> >> These wars are prosecuted by local warlords, military dictators and their >> elite intelligence and security networks, typically armed, funded and >> trained by western intelligence and/or ex-military and/or private security >> companies. And these networks are particularly ruthless. However, again, >> they are directly associated with in-country western military and >> intelligence advisors and their programs. That includes Israel, US, >> British, >> German and French. But IMF/WB and OPIC and ADB funds continue to flow, and >> they support selective interests and projects and infrastructure which >> helps >> their related industries further expropriate the resources and the people >> and the institutions. >> >> Uganda provides a good example. Uganda is at war on three fronts and a >> significant percentage of the IMF/WB funding which has gone into Uganda >> has >> been diverted for military objectives. The banks which fund Uganda through >> the international monetary institutions are often associated with the >> multinationals involved in the plunder of raw materials. Uganda has >> supported the SPLA war in southern Sudan, and I took testimony from Uganda >> dissidents who insist that US military advisors have worked with the SPLA >> and UPDF against Khartoum. >> >> In Cameroon, Benin, Burkina Faso, Gabon and Niger in 1997, I found >> abundant >> evidence of unrestricted raw materials extraction by interests associated >> with the United States. The people of the oil-producing areas of the Niger >> River Delta are suffering horrendous atrocities. Again, on the Niger >> border >> with Burkina -- famine, disease, despair, political repression for the >> most >> trifling reasons -- and right next door there is a Barrick Gold mining >> operation. And Sumitomo and the Keidanren (Zaibatsu) out of Japan are all >> involved. And people in these (African) countries know what is going on, >> but >> they can't tell their stories because most westerners are completely >> caught >> up in the mental illness of colonialism and imperialism, which disallows >> the >> simple truth to be seen. And those who tell their stories are often >> brutalized or disappeared. >> >> In Zimbabwe, the issue of land and elections and Mugabe's intransigence >> aside, the lasting repercussions of the Mugabe "five brigade" genocide >> against the Ndebele people in Matebelelands North and South and the >> Midlands >> provinces are heartbreaking. Here was this scorched earth campaign from >> 1981 >> to 1987 where hundreds and hundreds of thousands perished, where food was >> used as a weapon and rape prevailed, and the United States diverted its >> eyes. And the media knew about it but the media diverted its eyes. And >> this >> is all very current stuff in Zimbabwe. The 1990s was more of the same in a >> more subtle form. And the Ndebele people have suffered untold injustice >> and >> terror. >> >> Meanwhile, there was plenty of mining and tobacco farming going on in >> Zimbabwe and the weapons for Mugabe's dirty little secrets came from >> where? >> The IMF and WB funded Mugabe, no matter, throughout his tenure and right >> up >> into the late 1990s. Again, these are big banks like Chase Manhattan and >> First Boston and Citicorp and the Morgan Banks -- and their directors sit >> on >> some of the western media boards and they dictate relief operations at a >> certain level. And then of course there are all these supranational >> multinational corporations like Asea Brown Baveri (ABB) and Unilever and >> Royal Dutch Shell and Lonrho and Citibank and Bechtel. I mean, Bechtel >> gets >> away with raping the system in Boston the 10 or 12 billion dollar overruns >> in the Harbor Tunnel project never mind their tight CIA and US government >> interconnections, policy interventions of dictations, and the >> orchestration >> of coups, assassinations, disappearances and wars. >> >> Lonrho of course is Buckingham Palace and I contend that very powerful US >> citizens are tied in through companies like Brown and Root and Halliburton >> to Lonrho and Lonrho interests. And please recall that Vice President >> Cheney >> is a former Halliburton executive. And Lonrho has a lock on British media. >> And it is no coincidence that Lonrho has the most elegant and modern >> skyscraper in downtown Nairobi. >> >> And all this is hidden by the US media. Even the village idiot, if he >> opens >> his eyes, can see that the directors of the media corporations are the >> same >> directors of those corporations raping Africa. But too many people have a >> paycheck to worry about. And that includes humanitarian organizations and >> the United Nations and the OAU and the International Criminal Tribunal on >> Rwanda. >> >> Special torture centers and death squads and massive repression of the >> population are the rule in Togo, Cameroon, Kenya, Gabon, Nigeria, >> Zimbabwe, >> Burkina Faso, and were so in Zaire. And these people--Eyadema, Biya, >> Bongo, >> Obasanjo, Abacha, Babangida, Mobutu, Compaore, Rawlings, Banda, Kaunda, >> Moi, >> Habyarimana, Kagame, Museveni, Garang, Ratsiraka--they provide the >> environment for pillage, and they are duly rewarded, with power, with all >> the perks. >> >> Charles Taylor was incarcerated in Charlestown, Massachusetts circa 1983 >> or >> 1984 and he is the only person, I believe, in the history of the >> Charlestown >> jail to have been broken out. Apparently the records no longer exist of >> his >> stay there. And now he is President in Liberia? >> >> And then you have the whole misery industry, which profits from the wars >> and repression and population displacement which their affiliated >> institutions and their funding banks and materials-providing >> multinationals >> create. Again, you don't need a Ph.D. to figure out that thousands of >> highly >> paid western AID workers would be out of a job if there were peace in >> Sudan. >> And Toyota wouldn't sell all those shiny 4-WD SUVs. And who would buy the >> US >> made weapons? And all that business of feeding and clothing and interning >> the refugees would be lost by these multinationals who get huge tax >> write-offs and subsidies and whose products are purchased by USAID or >> other >> government agencies. And some of these relief organizations also have >> close >> ties to the corporate media executives. >> >> So I see it as a policy of depopulation in Africa. Because what I am >> talking about is access. That's all. Access to the animals. Access to the >> game parks and trophy fishing. Access to the minerals. Access to the cheap >> and replenishable labor pool. Access to uninformed populations to dump >> inferior and toxic and outdated products on. Access for military >> adventurism >> and special forces training and psyops operations. Access to biological >> and >> pharmaceutical testing grounds. Access to markets. And while at times it >> seems contradictory, at times it is, but it's all completely unethical, >> entirely arrogant and racist. It is driven purely by greed. And the >> profound >> human suffering is totally unnecessary. >> >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >> >> *Prepared Statement of Janine Farrell Roberts * >> >> MAURICE TEMPELSMAN: THE CONVERGENCE OF POLICY AND PROFIT IN PRIVATE How US >> Foreign Policy over decades was influenced by the Diamond Cartel. >> >> By author of Book "Blood Stained Diamonds," Janine Farrell Roberts The >> Secret Story Behind Blood Diamonds >> >> May I first briefly introduce myself. I hold degrees in Sociology and >> Theology and have authored several books written about Australian >> Aborigines >> and their civil rights struggle, which were launched by their leaders. For >> many years I was funded by a coalition of US and European church to work >> on >> human rights frontiers internationally. >> >> This work led me to De Beers - after it clashed with an Aboriginal >> community. The more I worked internationally the more I discovered about >> its >> human rights violations. I have now been researching and writing on De >> Beers >> and the diamond trade for twenty years during which time I have made >> several >> films - including: "The Diamond Empire", a feature length" Frontline" >> since >> suppressed by WGBH due to pressure from De Beers. The owners of Doubleday >> also commissioned a major work from me on diamonds - only to drop it at >> the >> very last moment as they wrote "rich and important people" did not want it >> to come out. >> >> De Beers is nothing if not secretive In the course of my investigation, De >> Beers banned me from its South African diamond mines where I was the guest >> of the National Union of Mineworkers (but I was smuggled in). Here I >> witnessed in De Beers's mines horrific conditions with wages paid at >> one-third of the official union minimum and in very hazardous conditions. >> I >> also witnessed considerable natural resources being hidden from the SA >> Government. I went also to India and witnessed children as young as 8 >> cutting and polishing diamonds in workshops mostly supplied by De Beers >> through its favored merchants, working in what is defined as a form of >> slavery. The wages were slashed this year from 40c to 25c a diamond >> causing >> riots. Workers get one dollar a day for cutting romantic gems. India cuts >> 55% by value of the world's gem diamonds. >> >> De Beers tried to stop my film in the Canadian NW Territories diamond >> fields - but the Sierra Club and the Unions made it happen. On 5th Avenue, >> merchants were phoned telling them not to speak to me "as I worked with >> Blacks in Australia to make life difficult for De Beers." I was also the >> keynote speaker at the first post apartheid conference of Southern African >> mineworkers where I was funded by the World Council of Churches. >> >> I have been told that a major reason for some of my difficulties is the >> fear publishers have of a certain Maurice Tempelsman, the former companion >> of Jackie Onassis who in 1998 was reported to be developing a relationship >> with Secretary of State Albright. He is a leading international diamond >> merchant of unique power and influence - often he has helped shape US >> foreign policy in directions that favour De Beers. I have extensively >> researched his work. Much of this is in my forthcoming book "Blood Stained >> Diamonds." >> >> I have been asked to talk about Tempelsman's role in the confluence of >> public policy and private profit that happens in private. He is an >> excellent >> example. I have time only to summarise my findings. >> >> Why was he uniquely important in the De Beers? In the 1940s De Beers was >> indicted by the US Justice Department for price fixing under the Sherman >> Act. The US also believed De Beers had rationed the supply of tool >> diamonds >> to the US during the Second World War severely damaging the war effort. It >> was determined never to let this happen again, and legislation was thus >> passed to set up a national diamond stockpile. De Beers needed a way to >> ensure it was the source of this stockpile despite being indicted. It >> sought >> a middleman to do the deals with the US. Early in the 1950s Tempelsman met >> with the Oppenheimers who rule De Beers and became this middleman. He was >> uniquely supplied with millions of diamonds to sell the US as its >> strategic >> reserve. Most of these diamonds came from the Congo. >> >> THE CONGO >> >> When Lumumba, Congo's first elected leader, spoke of using the Congo's >> resources to benefit the Congo. De Beers feared it would lose access to >> the >> one-third of world's diamond supply in the Congo - as would also >> Tempelsman. >> Shortly after this, the CIA facilitated Lumumba's assassination. Evidence >> on >> this came before the Church Intelligence Commission. Immediately after >> Lumumba's death, the Acting Prime Minister of the Congo, Adoula announced >> support for a very major Tempelsman diamond deal, telegramming this to >> President Kennedy. The historian Richard Mahoney claimed that the Adoula >> regime was receiving funds from Tempelsman. A State Department memo headed >> "Congo Diamond Deal" stated "The State Department has concluded that it is >> in the political interest of the US to implement this proposal." (2 August >> 1961) >> >> Immediately after Mobutu came to power, Tempelsman became an even bigger >> player in the Congo - recruiting his own staff from those CIA staffers >> that >> Mobutu most favored that put him in power. Mobutu also at this time gave >> Tempelsman, as a "Christmas Gift," rich mineral reserves. According to >> Tempelsman's staff we interviewed, they had a wonderful time helping to >> run >> the Congo. One of the first acts by Tempelsman was to facilitate the >> return >> of the Oppenheimers to the Congo - and to secure funding for Mobutu. He >> succeeded in persuading the White House to secretly buy a vast number of >> diamonds for the US strategic reserve - at a time when Administration >> officials were protesting that the reserve was over full. The reason for >> this deal given in secret US government memos was to support Mobutu and >> his >> partner Adoula. This Tempelsman plan made much profit for him and for De >> Beers. >> >> A State Department Cable of 23 December 1964 warned about the need of >> secrecy over this Mobutu diamond and South African uranium deal because; >> "it >> could outrage the moderate Africans we are trying to calm down." It >> suggest >> South African Foreign Minister Muller would understand the need for >> secrecy >> since the US was "doing a job" in the Congo that South Africa could not >> do. >> This covert support for Mobutu gave the US a gross excess in the strategic >> diamond stockpile that was still being sold off in 1997. >> >> In 1967 the State Department reported; "Tempelsman is playing an >> increasingly central role as GDRC (Congo's) technical advisor and >> mediator." >> But these deals and other deals done throughout the following decades with >> a >> corrupt Mobutu government left the Congolese people in absolute poverty. >> >> GHANA >> >> In the late 1950s democracy arrived in Africa with the election of >> President Nkrumah - who thought Black Africans should not have to sell >> diamonds to an apartheid company - so took Ghana's diamonds from the >> cartel. >> A short while later, the State Department wrote a furious letter to >> Maurice >> Tempelsman saying that his office, by using an unguarded phone line, had >> betrayed the identity of the plotters against Nkrumah and the identity of >> the CIA Head of Station. The plotters seemingly were communicating to the >> White House via Tempelsman's office. (Memorandum for the President from WW >> Rostow, 24 September 1961) Tempelsman clearly had advanced knowledge of >> this >> coup attempt. Shortly afterwards President Kennedy decided not to >> "downgrade" (his word) Tempelsman for this error. >> >> SIERRA LEONE >> >> Tempelsman worked out a new diamond contract for President Stevens - under >> which Tempelsman got 27% of the country's diamonds - setting up an >> independent cutting factory - and De Beers bought shares in it. However it >> was not set up to compete effectively. >> >> I have gathered ample evidence that historically Sierra Leone has been >> grossly exploited by fraudulent De Beers' practices which I would be happy >> to give during question time. >> >> ANGOLA >> >> In recent years Tempelsman has been trying to use US money and support to >> set up Savimbi of UNITA in the diamond trade with both De Beers the US >> support. On the side, he has also been setting up his own diamond cutting >> factory - here as in his other African cutting plants on terms that are >> likely to stop Africa getting a fully commercial cutting industry... a De >> Beers aim. >> Tempelsman in 1996 persuaded the Assistant Secretary of State George E. >> Moose to give him a letter suggesting that the US would finance >> Tempelsman's >> plans. On October 10th 1996 he met with Tony Lake the National Security >> Advisor and with Lake's deputy, Shawn McCormick - and gained their support >> for Tempelsman's plans. In May 1997 the US Ambassador for Angola, >> Steinbach >> met with Savimbi - to back the Tempelsman plan. This plan included UNITA >> keeping its diamond mines - and selling them via De Beers. Again US >> foreign >> policy was being shaped to benefit De Beers. >> >> TEMPELSMAN'S INDEPENDENCE OF DE BEERS >> >> Tempelsman frequently poses as an independent diamond merchant, even as a >> rival to De Beers. This has enabled him to do such things as to advise the >> President of Namibia on his negotiations with De Beers. But if he were >> truly >> such, he would lose his diamond supplies from De Beers as have other >> diamond >> merchants who tried to rival De Beers. He has never lost these supplies. >> He >> is rumoured in the trade as having one of the very largest of the diamond >> "sights" supplied by De Beers. It is easy for De Beers to pay him >> secretly. >> They simply put more and better stones into the box they send him. The US >> customs are unable to check if this has happened, as they do not the >> experts >> on staff. >> >> CONCLUSION >> >> Maurice Tempelsman served the De Beers diamond cartel by promoting foreign >> policy decisions that favoured its access to and control of African >> diamond >> fields. This lead to the US covertly supporting undemocratic and corrupt >> regimes in Africa to the great detriment of the African people. >> >> Information on Blood Diamonds Suppressed? >> >> Why did WGBH suppress its Frontline program "The Diamond Empire," refusing >> to sell it to many who asked for it. The owners of Doubleday were later >> scared off from publishing the "sensational, important and accomplished" >> (their words) human rights book "Glitter and Greed: The story of Blood >> Stained Diamonds." They wrote after putting promoting the book as due to >> come out in 3 months, saying that rich and powerful people were against >> it, >> and although we may win any legal battle, it is not worth the cost of such >> a >> fight. >> >> See my website www.sparkle.plus.com >> >> -- >> TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by >> Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By >> Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen >> Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your >> Head >> by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of >> Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The >> Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano >> >> AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In >> 3 >> Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & >> Easy >> Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight >> Swahili >> >> EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, >> Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa >> >> Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 >> >> FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 >> 208 >> > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim > Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda > Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, > Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by > Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 From christinebaraza at yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 16:46:43 2010 From: christinebaraza at yahoo.com (Christine Baraza) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 13:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] WHY IS KALONZO MUSYOKA RUNNING HELTER-SKELTER In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <985994.3871.qm@web113812.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Why is the son of Musyoka running helter-skelter in his own Ukambani backyard? Just by the fact that RAILA visited Ukambani to open a dum has swang Musyoka into a spiralling, how will he handle the 2012 campaigns? This is how Nation described the situation The VP appeared stung by Mr Odinga?s successful entry into his turf a fortnight ago, accompanied by his party?s secretary-general Anyang? Nyong?o and Water and Irrigation minister Charity Ngilu.Also with them were several leaders from the region who were thought to be in Mr Musyoka?s camp. Speaking in Kikamba, the VP said: ?Raila son of Odinga, all Kenyans and the world are screaming for liberation; unfortunately not from you ? you cannot take your bull to mix with others and then you cleverly take the other ones to the butcher who, in turn, doesn?t pay for them. If Raila is elected, you will suffer; that is why you should support me for 2012.?? These are remarks of a really failed politicians. Musyoka has REFORM CREDENTIALS to speak of. When RAILA Odinga and the Young Turks were fighting for reform and multipartism, MUSYOKA was busy defending the MOI GOVERNMENT for 20 years he sang baba na mama as Kenyans suffered under the dictatorship of Moi. He is a Johny come lately claimant to reform and should be ignored by Kenyans.If Kenyans were bright, Musyoka should not even head a cattle dip in Ukambani village. He has betrayed Kenyans in a big way and has no right to criticize any leader after supporting dictatorship for 20 years. --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Kuria-Mwangi wrote: > From: Kuria-Mwangi > Subject: Re: Millionaire Professor, sordid life, a disease he contracted in Kenya > To: "Kenya Forum" > Cc: "KCA" , "Africa-Oped" , "Mlalahoi" , kenyaonline at yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 2:06 PM > You feel sorry for this fellow at one > time and at another you dont. > Why would such a well to do fellow > lead double lives? Why in hell would one want to steal > "peanuts" with > all that wealth? To cover up the ills he is doing so that > wife and > children dont get to know of his dark side? He brings shame > to his > family and to the philanthropists doing good work in the > world. > > I feel for his wife and children. > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263190/A-priapic-professor-The-extraordinary-truth-Charles-Butlers-double-life.html > > ?http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article > ? z0k2bsTymd > > Kuria > > > > -- > > http://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.com > > http://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi > > > > > > -- > http://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.com > http://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi > > -- > MANY VACANCIES: http://bit.ly/bROydQ > > TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR > > To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com > > PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to > ADVERTISE HERE > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 From dochwangi at yahoo.com Sat Apr 3 10:02:42 2010 From: dochwangi at yahoo.com (David ochwangi) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 07:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: IS KENYA A MUSLIM STATE??? In-Reply-To: <4BB712C40200004F00028A4C@vennamo.phks.fi> Message-ID: <28480.81016.qm@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm with you 100% Daktari, this is not going to stand and we need to?ask all?our NON-MUSLIM fellow Kenyans to simply vote this thing down; our real power is always at the BALLOT BOX and we have the numbers, let's not under-estimate that. Equal rights and access to everyone or none at all, this draft, as you?properly note, makes Kenya effectively a MUSLIM state, Islam is the ONLY religion mentioned and recognized in the document, it is the only one whose laws are interpretted and enforced by taxpayer funded courts, so as a NON-MUSLIM, I just don't see how I can vote for a document that is so blatantly discriminatory, it just doesn't make sense. Now there are some who argue that this thing has been around for so long and to them I say, hasn't the rest of the constitution been around? Did we get a chance to vote for it at the beginning? And if that is the case, what difference does it make one way or the other now for Christians to vote for something does completely ignores their views on such a sacrosanct subject, I say HELL NO! This this MUST be rejected, let's get it right!? ? --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Paul Nyandoto wrote: From: Paul Nyandoto Subject: IS KENYA A MUSLIM STATE??? To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 3:04 AM Kenyans, We can`t wait to see suffering stopped, injustice corrected, and prosperity begun. Christians? too have much to learn about Jesus death and ressurrection. We must not let our personal desires catch us up and prevent us from seeing the truth. Why should Kadhi`s courts or sheria law be included in our constitution again almost 47 years down the line from independence?. Christians have? also to remember that following Christ involves hardships. It may include suffering and even death. Christians are right to be upset about kadhi courts in the Kenyan constitution especially when the parliament passes kadhi courts just on the eve of? easter holiday. Easter holiday is celebrated by all Christians around the world: Jesus was resurrected from the dead on the third day after his cruxifixion. Why can`t Kenya learn from Nigeria or Somalia where kadhi courts are the order of the day, or Sudan, for heavenly sake why is Sudan dividing now or why is Nigeria not stable almost 50 years after independence. To the coastal people who wanted a devolution of government,? majimbo and were to create local governments? are you now silent? because they have included Kadhi courts in the constitution or what?. Where is the 3 tier of government or creation of local government for the people disappeared to?. I thought that these guys were serious that they wanted to? manage their local resources to get rid of? poverty. Kenyans are not seeing a head very clearly. A new constitution is good just like any new clothes or shoes bought to a kid or a person who lacked them, but after sometimes he will see the bad sides or see if the shoes are really suitable for long distance walk or leaving wounds on the leg every time he uses them?. Kenyans have also elected a group of goons as Mps, they have mouths like goose but can not decide on anything good for the country: Or is this a trick for the new constitution to be rejected and people remain with the present one?. Passing the constitution was a? great thing, but passing Kadhi courts in a country dominated by christians is just an abuse to our rights, and our self determination. I can not believe that the courts which were? introduced by sultan of Zanziber will still follow us after losing even people Like Dedan Kimathi, who died for our freedom so that africans can have their country back and introduce self determination and self rule. Why even bother sueing the British government over Mau mau when we still leave our people to be governed by sultan`s courts. Do Kenyans want to say that colonialism by the British was more worse than colonialism by Arabs and slavery etc. So let Kenyans be still under kadhi influences. What type of a country Kenya will be if all religions starts to demand a right of their rituals in the constitution?. And by the way what is special about kadhi Courts, what do they offer muslims which the ordinary courts do not offer?: Why are these questions constantly being ignored?. 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The few grambling?clergy seem to be reading from a different schript should be told that they don't own Kenyans?in their pockets or remote control us. When we required them to show positive leadership during the wako draft referendum in 2005, they were found to be wanting and?did not take the lead. Their intervention at this hour to reject the entire document is suspect. 20years wait has been too long. ________________________________ From: maina ndiritu To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 8:39:39 AM Subject: [YP_Ke] RE: I must Salute President Kibaki - He is not a PNU Person Aaah harry , because the president said something you like so he is now a good man and a statesman? , he is surrounded by sharks and that is how the elections were stolen ?, is he not the beneficiary of that thievery if at all it did occur ?? is he still a good statesman ? perhaps I should be saying things you like , you might brand me reasonable , in principle a good man with or without sharks ? From:mlalahoi at googlegroups.com [mailto:mlalahoi at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:55 AM To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com; Harrison Mumia N Subject: I must Salute President Kibaki - He is not a PNU Person ? ? My Friends, I come to you with Good News. A new day is born. A new moment in the history of Kenyans. The CoE Draft Constitution has been passed by parliament and now goes to the people of Kenya for a referendum. ? For the first time though, i had a chance to see Mr. Kibaki, who i ?will now call President Kibaki, displaying a side of him which i had never thought of. This was in parliament at around 8.45 PM. ? Friends, and particularly my ODM friends, Kibaki is a reasonable person after-all. He is?infarct?in principle a good man. He is an old man who was?surrounded?by PNU sharks and thats how the election was stolen. But he is possibly a statesman. Maybe he has become a little bit too old. Maybe he is? But he spoke like a statesman.? ? Kibaki told parliament that the constitution can always be?amended. He encouraged them to pass the draft. He thanked the Speaker for displaying leadership. I must applaud him on this. And he is an eloquent man, this Kibaki fellow.? ? I therefore urge all of us, from today on, lets give him support for the remaining two years, as we adopt a new constitution, which will guarantee the right of Kenyans. ? God Bless Kenya. ? -- PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE ? MANY VACANCIES: http://www.myafricancareer.net/ ? FREE CLASSIFIEDS ADS: http://bit.ly/aZbpFV ? TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR ? You are subscribed to the Google Groups "MlalaHoi" group. 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Mailbox ************************************************************ Bit of History The World Conference Against Racism (WCAR) "...World Conference has the potential to be among the most significant gatherings at the start of this century. It can be more: it can shape and embody the spirit of the new century, based on the shared conviction that we are all members of one human family." Secretary-General of the Conference and High Commissioner for Human Rights - Mary Robinson The World Conferences against Racism (WCAR) are international events organized by the United Nation's Economic and Social Council (UNESCO) as part of the struggle against racist ideologies and behaviors. Twenty-seven (27) World Conferences against Racism have been held so far. The most well-known are those held in 1978, 1983, 2001 and 2009. Founded after World War II and the Holocaust as a dependent body of the United Nations, UNESCO started as soon as its creation to promote scientific studies concerning ethnic groups and their diffusion in the public opinion to dispel pseudo-scientific rationalizations of racism. One of its first published works, The Race Question (1950), debunked race theories and condemned racism. In particular, it suggested we "drop the term 'race' altogether and speak of "ethnic groups." Signed by some of the leading researchers of the time in the field of psychology, biology, cultural anthropology and ethnology, it questioned the foundations of scientific racist theories which had become very popular at the turn of the 20th century, alongside eugenics. These racist theories had been a main influence of Nazi racial policies and eugenics program. Since its creation, the UN has struggled to find measures to combat racial discrimination and ethnic violence. This commitment to human dignity and equality is reflected in its adoption of a number of resolutions, conventions and declarations. These include the Convention of the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide - 1948, the Declaration on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination - 1963, the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination - 1965, the designation of March 21 as the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination - 1966 and the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid - 1973. These resolutions and declarations have been accompanied by international conferences. These include the First Decade to Combat Racism and Racial Discrimination (1973-1982) and the First World Conference against Racism, which was held in Geneva, Switzerland (1978). A major focus of that conference was South Africa's apartheid policies of racial segregation and discrimination. The Second World Conference to Combat Racism and Racial Discrimination was also held in Geneva (1983). It coincided with the Second Decade for Action to Combat Racial Discrimination (l983-l992) In the Third Decade to Combat Racism and Racial Discrimination (1994-2003), the UN General Assembly in 1998 decided to proclaim 2001 as the International Year of Mobilization against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance. The 2001 World Conference against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance was held in Durban, South Africa. The 2001 meeting was marked by clashes over the Middle East and the legacy of slavery. The United States and Israel walked out midway through the 2001 conference over a draft resolution that, in their opinion, singled out Israel for criticism and likened Zionism to racism. The 2009 World Conference Against Racism was held in Geneva, Switzerland. Canada, Israel, the United States, New Zealand, Germany, Italy, Sweden, the Netherlands, Poland and Australia did not participate. (Sources: www.unesco.org/new/en/unesco/ and www.un.org/WCAR/durban.pdf) Politics Y2K10 Open Letter to: The Honorable Alex Van Meeuwen President UN Human Rights Council (Excerpts) Recently, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton held a press briefing to announce that the United States (US) was abandoning its head-in-the-sand approach to the UN Human Rights Council's Universal Periodic Review (UPR). As you know, the Bush administration boycotted the process and did not seek membership on the council but participated only as an observer with no voting power. Bush claimed countries with poor human rights records dominated the council. However, slave descendants in the United States (US) believe Bush did not want blacks to have a legitimate platform that would cause the US to respond to charges of institutionalized racism, a hostile criminal justice system and ongoing economic slavery. Statements from President Barack Obama's administration regarding the URP have created grave concern that African Americans will be unable to give their bottom-up view of their human right's treatment in the US. Secretary of State Clinton opened her remarks with some sweeping generalizations regarding human rights. "The idea of human rights begins with a fundamental commitment to the dignity that is the birthright of every man, woman and child. ... The principle that each person possesses equal moral value is a simple, self-evident truth, but securing a world in which all can exercise the rights that are naturally theirs is an immense practical challenge." For a fifth generation descendant of American slavery, these words do not match the reality slave descendants face, even if Ms. Clinton is truly sincere in her statement. First, black people in America have never been accorded civil rights let along human rights. Moreover, her reference to, "a fundamental commitment to the dignity that is the birthright of every man, woman and child" ignores a fundamental truth which is slaves and their descendants were denied such rights by Article I Section II (the 3/5 Compromise) of the US Constitution. This article codified discrimination by making blacks 3/5 of white men. The 3/5 Compromise has never been repealed, so it is still intact in the Constitution -- it covers the Electoral College which elects the President and governs Senatorial representation. This section is the foundation of discrimination against slave descendants and the underpinning of white privilege, as well as the entitlements they enjoy. The 3/5 Compromise was the basis for the Dred Scott (1858) decision in which Chief Justice Roger B. Taney stated, "A black man had no rights that a white man is bound to respect." Thus this ruling became the precedent in Plessy v Ferguson (1896) and the era of federal and state sponsored "separate-but-equal" (segregation) discrimination that lasted until the 1980s. Madam Secretary boldly asserted, "Human rights are universal, but their experience is local. This is why we are committed to holding everyone to the same standard, including ourselves." The "local experiences" of African Americans are tainted by racism, de-facto segregation and discrimination which is a legacy US society perpetuates but who is held accountable for this? Once our ancestors were turned off plantations, they were re-enslaved through economic discrimination and legal incarceration; then, they were kept ignorant through inferior education and impotent through political disenfranchisement. Simultaneously, blacks paid taxes that benefited white-only institutions and other public facilities they could not utilize. It was as if Secretary Clinton was only looking outward in order to point a finger when she said, "As we work to protect human rights at home and abroad, we remember that human rights begin, as Eleanor Roosevelt said, "in small places close to home." So when we work to secure human rights, we are working to protect the experiences that make life meaningful, to preserve each person's ability to fulfill his or her God-given potential - the potential within every person to learn, discover and embrace the world around them...." Mrs. Clinton seems to have forgotten that Mrs. Roosevelt lived during a time when white men in the US lynched over 100 black men every year. Moreover, these lynchings were not dark secrets hidden away from view; they were attended by community business leaders, politicians, preachers, teachers, women and children - they were community entertainment. Newspapers announced lynchings in advance, like sports events and law enforcement facilitated such murder. Mob rule allowed white men to take a black man's land, wife or life and nothing was done. Today, whites say forget about all of that, it is behind us, we are a color blind society now. However, some of the same community business leaders, politicians, preachers, teachers, women and their children who were a part of segregation and lynching are still in power. The system of legal discrimination erected during segregation was never dismantled; whites just covered it over with words like "equal opportunity employer," "fair housing" and "affirmative action." The words today are "post racial" but everyone adds, "We still have a long way to go!" This is because America's claims of freedom, justice and equality for black people are all just words that can be changed, depending on who occupies the White House. They are a sale's pitch to the world, just as participation in the UN Human Rights Council's UPR is a sale's pitch by Mrs. Clinton. "This year, the United States is participating in the Universal Periodic Review process in conjunction with our participation in the UN Human Rights Council. In the fall, we will present a report, based on the input of citizens and NGOs, gathered online and in face-to-face meetings across the country." Sir, these so-called citizens are not blacks who are going to tell this story. They are hand-picked to wave the stars and stripes at the UN. Economist Dot M. Smith documented the relevance of the 3/5 Compromise today, so the complaints of slave descendants are based on what is happening today not the past. Mrs. Smith examined unemployment and median family income using US Labor Department data. She found that the disparity between black and white unemployment and median family income has remained remarkably stable over the last 50 years and the gap between black and white median family incomes mimics the 3/5 Compromise. Expressed in everyday economic terms, blacks are twice as likely to pay higher interest rates, higher rent, more for less insurance, be the last hired and the first fried, live in a substandard red-lined community filled with predatory businesses, liquor stores and fast food restaurants. Obviously Sir, this situation breeds poverty, desperation and crime. Facing a hostile criminal justice system, even though blacks are only 13% of the US population, they are over 45% of those incarcerated. The public school system for black youth is a fast track to prison. Those blacks who escape being stigmatized by criminal records face discrimination getting into major universities (less than 5% on average), graduate or professional schools (less than 2%). Those with degrees have incomes 2.5 times less than white high school graduates and unemployment rates 2.5 times higher. (Note: To read the entire letter, click on Clinton Letter) Intuit's Vibe Race and the Obama Administration By Danny Glover In 2001 I traveled to Durban, South Africa, to join the tens of thousands of people who came to participate in the United Nations-sponsored World Conference Against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance. More than 2,000 came from the United States, a rainbow of people crossing all lines--racial, ethnic, national, language, immigration status, religious and much more--joining an equally diverse crowd from across the globe. It was an extraordinary opportunity to meet, discuss, argue and strategize over how to rid the world of these longstanding evils. Our participation paralleled that of the official US delegation. And that's where we faced a huge challenge. The Bush administration team, having only grudgingly agreed to participate at all, made clear they had no real commitment to fighting racism or offering leadership on other challenging issues of discrimination. When they didn't like a few small parts of the sixty-one-page text, they packed up and walked out of the conference. It was a sad but hardly surprising moment, exposing once again the history of US failures to take seriously the consequences of its own legacy of racism, a point most recently made by Attorney General Eric Holder. The 2001 Declaration expressed powerful truths. It stated: "We acknowledge and profoundly regret the massive human suffering and the tragic plight of millions of men, women and children caused by slavery, the slave trade, the transatlantic slave trade, apartheid, colonialism and genocide, and call upon States concerned to honor the memory of the victims of past tragedies and affirm that, wherever and whenever these occurred, they must be condemned and their recurrence prevented." Another part declared, "We recognize the inalienable right of the Palestinian people to self-determination and to the establishment of an independent State and we recognize the right to security for all States in the region, including Israel, and call upon all States to support the peace process and bring it to an early conclusion." Now, eight years later, the United Nations is convening the Durban Review Conference in Geneva April 20 to 24 to review and assess the progress since 2001. Member nations have toiled for two years to craft an outcome document that assesses the current analysis and challenges. This document--which called for particular measures to provide support and reparations to all the victims both of long-ago histories, like the descendants of the European-Atlantic slave trade, and those facing contemporary forms of discrimination and apartheid policies, such as the Roma, the Dalits (India's "untouchables") and the Palestinians--was rejected by the Obama administration. This year we thought things would be different. Our country has taken a huge step in our long struggle against racism: we have elected our first African-American president. And perhaps more important, the mobilization of people who made Barack Obama's election possible brought more young people of color into political action, with others of various ethnic and political backgrounds, than perhaps any campaign before. It is a moment not to sit on our laurels; certainly, we have much farther to go. But it is certainly a moment for our nation's political leadership to acknowledge a new marker in the long and painful struggle for justice, and a time to offer global leadership in the United Nations forum organized to combat bigotry and injustice. In an effort to address the administration's concerns, the United Nations has released a new "outcome document," stripped of all language deemed offensive or controversial. Yet we face the sad reality that our president, the first African-American to lead this country, who has galvanized hope among victims of injustice around the world and encouraged them to stand up with dignity for their rights, has yet to indicate if he will send an official delegation or continue to abstain from the entire process. Our historical struggle against racism can claim great progress as a legacy of the civil rights movement led by the likes of Fanny Lou Hamer and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., but this 2009 review of the 2001 Durban conference against racism should still be a moment in which the administration of President Obama returns to the world stage to join deliberations aimed at making even further progress against injustice. For twenty years, Congressman John Conyers, dean of the Congressional Black Caucus, has annually introduced a bill urging the United States to form a commission to study whether reparations are an appropriate response to the continuing legacy of slavery in our country. Would not the Durban Review Conference be a perfect venue to the administration to support the remedies recommended by the global community of nations to overcome the impacts of racism, slavery, anti-Semitism, apartheid and other forms of discrimination? Would this United Nations conference not be exactly the right place for our new president to show the world that his administration's commitment to "change we can believe in" means rejecting our country's tarnished legacy of violating international law, undermining the United Nations and using American exceptionalism to justify walking away from the leadership responsibility many in the world expect of the United States? To make that change clear, wouldn't this be a great opportunity to remind the world that even if the final document does not call out the name of every perpetrator government, the United States at least believes that every group of victims facing discrimination or worse based on their identity, especially the most vulnerable, and those who are stateless and thus in need of special attention by the international community, should be named and promised assistance? This should be a moment for the United States to rejoin the global struggle against racism, the struggle that the Bush administration so arrogantly abandoned. I hope President Obama will agree that the United States must participate with other nations in figuring out the tough issues of how to overcome racism and other forms of discrimination and intolerance, and how to provide repair to victims. Our country certainly has much to learn; and maybe, for the first time in a long time, we have something by way of leadership to share with the rest of the world in continuing our long struggle to overcome. Universal Periodic Review By John Burl Smith The Universal Periodic Review "has great potential to promote and protect human rights in the darkest corners of the world." ? Ban Ki-moon, UN Secretary-General Created through the UN General Assembly on March 15, 2006 by resolution 60/251, which established the Human Rights Council, the Universal Periodic Review (UPR) is a unique process which involves a review of the human rights records of all 192 UN Member States once every four years. The UPR is a State-driven process under the auspices of the Human Rights Council, which provides an opportunity for each State to declare what actions it has taken to improve the human rights situation in its country and to fulfill its human rights obligations. As one of the main features of the Council, the UPR is designed to ensure equal treatment for every country when its human rights situations are assessed. The UPR is a cooperative process which, by 2011, will have reviewed the human rights records of every country. Currently, no other universal mechanism of this kind exists. The UPR is one of the key elements of the new Council which reminds States of their responsibility to fully respect and implement all human rights and fundamental freedoms. The ultimate aim of this new mechanism is to improve the human rights situation in all countries and to address human rights violations wherever they occur. Claire Kaplun, Public Information Officer, UN Human Rights Council, on Monday, March 01, 2010 gave some background information about the UPR. "The Universal Periodic Review of the Human Rights Council is an innovative mechanism that reviews concerned countries' obligations and commitments in the field of human rights. All issues can be freely and publicly discussed, and the entire meeting is webcast, and all written statements are available on the web." Iran, together with 15 other States (Qatar, Nicaragua, Italy, El Salvador, Gambia, Bolivia, Fiji, San Marino, Kazakhstan, Angola, Madagascar, Iraq, Slovenia, Egypt and Bosnia and Herzegovina), had its human rights record reviewed at the last UPR session, which took place in Geneva from February 8-19 2010. The review is based on three documents: A national report prepared by the State under review, a compilation of United Nations information (mainly reports from the treaty bodies and a summary of contributions submitted by NGOs, national human rights institutions, human rights defenders, academic institutions and research institutes, civil society representatives, etc. The review itself takes place during a two-week session of the Working Group of the UPR that is composed of the 47 Member States of the Council. 16 States are reviewed during each session. After a presentation made by the country under review, any UN Member State can take the floor to make a statement, ask questions and make recommendations. The final report - which consists of recommendations to be implemented primarily by the State concerned - has then to be adopted by the Human Rights Council at one of its regular sessions. States, but also NGOs, can make further comments. Here again, the interactive dialogue is webcast and the debate is public. The subsequent review of States occur no later than four years afterwards and focuses, inter alia, on the implementation of the proceeding's outcome. For instance, Iran has accepted 123 recommendations out of 188. An additional 20 recommendations will be examined by Iran which will provide its response no later than the 14th session of the Human Rights Council in June, when the final report will have to be presented to the Council for adoption. So far, 112 States have had their human rights records examined by the UPR Working Group. In December 2011, when the first four-year cycle ends, all UN Member States will have been reviewed once under this mechanism. The ultimate goal of the Human Rights Council is to promote "universal respect for the protection of all human rights and fundamental freedoms for all without distinction of any kind and in a fair and equal manner" and to make an actual difference on the ground of participating States. In that sense, the Universal Periodic Review is a very positive step. News You Use The Psychology of Racism The following is the preamble of the American Psychological Association (APA)'s Delegation to the World Conference Against Racism (WCAR)... We respectfully thank the Chair of this United Nations' Plenary Session and the Conference organizers for this invitation to address the full body of this historic conference. As representatives of a United States Non-Government Organization, and several International Psychological Associations, we are especially pleased to have this opportunity to add our voice to the world-wide victims of racism. We are members of a NGO committed to the eradication of the psychological torture and wasted human potential resulting from the barbaric, inhumane, and illegitimate, racist systems of human relationships. We are even more resolved to the development of a workable, vital, and living WCAR document; a document that reflects the legitimate concerns and human rights of hundreds of millions of people world-wide for improving the quality of their lives by removing the intolerable weight of racism, poverty, discrimination, and psychological torture. Racism in all its horrific forms is transmitted across generations and is manifested in individual behaviors, institutional norms and practices, and cultural values and patterns. Racism serves simultaneously both to rationalize the hierarchical domination of one racial or ethnic group over other group(s), and maintain psychological, social, and material advantages for the dominant group. Both active racism and passive acceptance of race-based privilege disrupt the mental health and psychological functioning of both victims, and perpetrators, of racial injustice. We strongly believe that respect for the inherent dignity and well-being of each member of the human family is the psychological foundation of freedom, human justice, and peace in the world. This important principle is recognized in the United Nations Charter (1945), the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948), and every subsequent human rights declaration and convention, including the International Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of Racial Discrimination (1965). Therefore, we urge the integration of psychological and positive mental health concerns into the framework of WCAR as a necessary condition for the effective implementation of remedies, and corrective and preventive measures and strategies. The causes of racism and related intolerance and the means for their perpetuation are complex, involving legal vulnerability and discrimination, economic and educational disadvantage, social and political marginalization, and psychological victimization. Thus, we urge governments, academic, professional, philanthropic, religious, humanitarian, professional and corporate institutions, non-governmental organization and other civil society groups, and the UN to: Acknowledge, protect, and promote the quality of life of victims of racism and other forms of intolerance, especially women and children, migrants and refugees, members of multi-ethnic states, indigenous peoples, African and African descendent peoples, victims of disabilities, and physical and mental disorders; Establish, endorse, and actively support financially, Institutes on Racial and Ethnic Equity and Mental Health Promotion, at the highest levels. These Institutes should place a high priority on research and public policy development and the promotion of research and program development related to tracking the effects of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia, and related intolerances; and the status of related racial and ethnic disparities in social, educational, economic, political, health, and psychological statuses; Establish programmatic support for mental health on a par with physical health within the World Health Organization and the UN system. Give priority to racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerances as deterrents to psychological well-being and positive health and mental health, including discrimination in health and mental health care access and treatment, and the lack of effective culturally competent education of medical and mental health care providers; Eliminate biases in research and diagnostic instruments, methods and procedures that reflect and perpetuate racial and ethnic disparities and racism in medical, psychological and psychiatric, educational, employment and other institutional assessments; Recognize and support using the impressive wealth of existing educational curricula and resources against racism at all levels of formal education to promote understanding of human rights, especially historical and intercultural approaches developed by UNESCO. Establish a "focal point" on racial equality based in the UN Office of the Secretary General, to oversee and monitor the integration of issues relating to racial equality into the work of all functional bodies and special mechanisms of the UN, at least equal to those provided for women and children; Establish an "International Research and Public Policy Institute" on the Program of Action adopted at the WCAR to monitor and evaluate capacity building for the fulfillment of WCAR goals. The system of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerances is broadly entrenched and involves generationally transmitted material deprivation and disparities, institutional arrangements and norms, beliefs and ideologies of cultural superiority, and negative psychological consequences for the oppressed and oppressors. Each of these dimensions of the racism system must be addressed, if we are to reverse their influences in order to create a more humane, just, and peaceful world. The APA Office of Ethnic Minority Affairs actively seeks collaboration with individuals, corporations, foundations, universities, APA Divisions and affiliates, community organizations, and others in sponsoring a Conversation on Psychology and Racism. To facilitate such conversations, upon request and so long as supplies last, OEMA will provide sponsors of such events up to 100 free copies of its 12-page brochure on "Racism and Psychology: Why we Dislike, Stereotype, and Hate Other Groups and What to Do about It, which was written by Mark Feinberg. OEMA also has developed an Annotated Bibliography on Psychology and Racism. For more, see www.apa.org/pi/oema/programs/racism/index.aspx) Disgruntled says: Let me be among the first to say that I am delighted to learn that the US economy is adding, rather than hemorrhaging, jobs. With that said, let me also say that the government jobs added to conduct the census represent temporary employment that provides the employee with no benefits, including health insurance. For that alone the Obama Administration should hang its head in shame, especially since it has placed so much emphasis on the need for universal healthcare coverage. In addition, most of these new government employees will not be on the job long enough to qualify for unemployment compensation once the temporary tour ends. And, before there is too much irrational exuberance over the jobs report, let us remember that the national unemployment rate held steady at 9.7%. On closer examination, while the unemployment rate for whites at 8.8% remained unchanged, it increased for blacks and Hispanics. For blacks, it rose from 15.8% to 16.5%; for Hispanics, the rate increased from 12.4 to 12.6%. Since the US began gathering demographic employment data, this has been the historic pattern of unemployment that has wrecked havoc with the economic welfare of black Americans. By now, everyone knows it is the systemic nature of the US labor market ?blacks are discriminated against; they are the last hired and the first fired. No one, including the nation's first black president, should be surprised that blacks endure unemployment rates that are twice the rate of whites along every phase of the US business cycle. Disgruntled feels: Ironic! Given what we know about US history of slavery, Jim Crow segregation and ongoing institutional racism, one would expect to see any number of lawsuits filed by black Americans to challenge the hostile work environment. Ironically, while the Equal Employment Commission has examined countless cases and provided litigants with right to sue letters, their cases are dismissed on technicalities en masse in federal court. Even more ironic, the successful employment discrimination cases have been those filed by white Americans charging reversed discrimination. Disgruntled wants to know: Like the cowards we are when it comes to the issue of race and Israel's treatment of Palestinians, the Obama administration bowed out of WCAR II and refused to engage in the discussion on the elimination of racism and discrimination. In genuflecting to the powerful Israeli lobby, did the US decision to boycott Durban II embolden Israel? Mailbox: E-Mails, Faxes and Telephone Calls Email www.blackagendareport.com ...Bailout Double Standards: Black Banks/White Banks Department of Double Standards: Rep. Maxine Waters Maligned for Helping Black Banks...By Glen Ford... Every sentient being on the planet is aware of the tawdry money-lust affair between Wall Street banksters and the Bush-Obama bailout regimes. Goldman Sachs didn't miss a beat as January 20th saw one administration morph into the other, with Sachs still in the finance policy catbird seat. Rescuing the zombie bankers from catastrophe of their own making has become the national project, an open-ended transfer of vast wealth to the finance capitalist class, courtesy of purchased politicians. Conflict of interest is a dead letter, with lawless banksters empowered to dictate the terms of their own deliverance from insolvency. The biggest beneficiaries are those institutions already deemed "too big to fail" ? and whose executives are far too politically wired to go to jail. But let a progressive Black congresswoman arrange a meeting in which Black bankers beseech the government for some minuscule piece of the bailout pie ? and it is the stuff of scandal. Email www.chicagotribune.com ...Fewer Black Firefighters In The Ranks...'We are definitely moving backward'...By Cynthia Dizikes...Mark Townsend joined the Chicago Fire Department in 1988 hoping to help pave the way for future black firefighters in an agency long plagued by charges of racism. But as Townsend nears retirement, he faces a troubling fact: Despite years of diversity training and a highly publicized minority recruitment campaign, the percentage of African-Americans in the department is shrinking. Chicago ranks third from the bottom -- in front of only New York City and Baltimore -- when it comes to how closely its percentage of black firefighters matches the city's racial makeup, according to a Tribune analysis of 10 of the largest fire departments. "We are definitely moving backward," said Townsend, a captain and 22-year veteran. "It's very disappointing, and it also makes you angry." The racial makeup of the department is in the spotlight as the U.S. Supreme Court in the coming months is expected to rule on a potential $100 million civil rights case stemming from allegations of racial bias against black applicants in the department's 1995 entry- level exam. Email www.rawstory.com ...Report: African-Americans risk falling `deeper into poverty and despair'...By Agence France-Presse...In Barack Obama's first year as president, African-Americans have struggled to bridge a wide equality gap with whites, in particular in the area of jobs. In the annual "State of Black America" report, the National Urban League (NUL) said black unemployment numbers were nearly double those of whites as "the ravages of the recession" hit minorities much harder than whites. "These are tough times in America and they require a powerful and immediate response," said Marc Morial, president and CEO of the 100-year-old civil rights group. The "already struggling" African-American community risks falling "deeper into poverty and despair" if nothing is done to help them bridge inequality gaps in everything from health care to jobs to education, said the report. Blacks were more than twice as likely to be out of a job than whites from 1972 to 2009, and the rate has fallen only slightly since Obama took office with blacks now 1.8 times more likely to be unemployed, the report said. **************************************************** For comments, questions or to unsubscribe, email thedish at ga.net. ***************************************************** From joragem at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 21:22:30 2010 From: joragem at gmail.com (Joram Ragem) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:22:30 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] Beware Of Kenyan Pharesees! Message-ID: New Kenyans, I just want to tell you that I know so much about what really went on to get the Kenyan political status quo where it is today and want to share but my hands are tied for now. I will when the time is nigh. Yet I must speak regarding the stance some Church leaders are taking prematurely regarding the Draft Constitution. I was once a Christian while in Kenya and here is what I know of myself. Before I converted to Bahai, My pastor (who was not my tribe) baptized me Joram, and later confirmed me. If I stayed in Kenya he would have probably remained a Christian and my pastor would have presided over my wedding, and baptized, then confirmed our children and wed them when their time came. That is the way it goes traditionally. If we died, he would have also said the last prayers for us. But that really is as far as my pastor would've and should go. A pastor would not corrupt my mind about whom to elect in a political race. Let me tell you what would. I shamefully say, tribe can, but not religion. Yes, in Kenya, though I have this dream that many a politician would one day be elected in a jurisdiction where his/her tribe is not the dominant one, tribalism plays more influence on us than religion. Do you know that some of the perpetrators of PEV actually knew they were killing Kenyans who were of the same religion like they were but of course of different tribe? We have come a long way alright, and this coming election will be a little more about issues than it has been before. This notwithstanding, tribe will still play a big role in who will win. I can predict comfortably that in the minds of many Kenyans, the Kikuyu have just had their turn in Kibaki not to mention Jomo's tenure. The kalenjin had theirs and 24 years to boot with Moi. This time it is the turn for the rest of Kenyans! You have no choice, but to support a different Kenyan. Wajameni, Kenyans have worked hard for this costitution and I for one do not support the inclusion of kadhi Courts and the mention regarding life beginning at birth or abortion in it. But this one has been passed by parliament is 'As Is', where 'Is' means the best draft constitution we've had. Here let me quote an unpopular person just because I liked his statement. "You go to war with the army you have, not the one you wish you'd have" - Donald Rumsfeld. So Church leaders opposed to this constitution are in the wrong side of the Kenyan political trend. They also need to know that it is the people who make their denomination relevant. Think about it, it is very probable that you are in the religion you are in because you were born in it and not necessarily because you chose to be in it. When you see Church leaders turn into Pharesees over our Katiba, you can choose to leave that denomination or Church. We have already read how scandals have afflicted these big religions and suffice is to say that putting too much faith on these mortal beings is surrendering your faith to them rather than God. My 10th great grandfather Ragem says thus: It is best for religious leaders to obey the age-old rule of thumb, not to mix religion with politics, lest they be regarded as cultists. -- Joram Ragem wuod Ndinya, wuod Onam, wuod Amolo, wuod Owuoth, wuod Oganyo, wuod Mumbe, wuod Odongo, wuod Olwande, wuod Adhaya, wuod Ojuodhi, wuod Ragem! (Are you my relative?) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Pharesee.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 222949 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mail at blackhistoryclub.ning.com Sun Apr 4 23:31:53 2010 From: mail at blackhistoryclub.ning.com (Donald E. Scoggins) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:31:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Jambo] What Black America Can Learn from Recent Chinese History Message-ID: <26724154.628718521270438313304.JavaMail.xncore@z101076.ningops.com> Donald E. Scoggins has sent you a message on Black History Club To reply to this message, click here: http://blackhistoryclub.ning.com/profiles/message/listInbox?xg_source=msg_mes_private Subject: What Black America Can Learn from Recent Chinese History "Another way at phasing the question is: What can all ethnic groups learn from the experience of blacks? If our people were more unified we could influence this country's politics for many, many years. Very quietly Asians and Hispanics are gaining influence within both the Democratic Party and Republican Party. Considering the changing demographics of this nation obviously its becoming majority minority. With blacks as the dominate blood line we could practically control everything which occurs. 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We would like to ask other proffesionals to provide resources(not necessarily monetary) to these aspirants. For there to be a youth revolution,young proffesionals MUST be involved. On 4/3/10, Ali Maalim wrote: > YPs, For a while i have been considering contesting at Othaya in 2012. This > may sound crazy and radical, especially among the very ethnic conservative > and political traditionalist. But my mind is set on it. For me, more than > any thing else, it is a test of democracy and one way to break the hardline > tradtional political lines. Yes, i am from North Eastern Kenya and yes, > ethnic somali. I am also looking for a candidate from Kisumu or Eldoret, or > someother place (non-somali) to contest in Mandera, wajir or Garissa. Anyone > up for this challenge? I front this to you, the YPs, because i believe you > are the more rational, realist and learned group. What are your thoughts? > > Thanks, > Aliyoung M. > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 3:45 AM, MOSES HAYA wrote: > >> Even me am going to vote no to the new constitution. >> >> On 4/1/10, Will Keku wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > The band has played its last song and the curtains have been drawn, the >> > stage has now been set for the final and decisive stage of the >> constitution >> > of Kenya. To decide whether to vote ?No? or to vote ? yes? will not be >> > a >> > light decision for Kenyans. They now hold the future of the faith of >> their >> > country in their hands. >> > Chairman of the COE was quick in his closing words to explain the >> > contentious issues, which to him revolved around devolution and the >> abortion >> > debate. To him, the issue of the kadhi courts is not an issue worth >> > mentioning. The dismissal of a fundamental belief of the Christian faith >> > clearly shows the stand the chairman took, which by such silence is a >> loud >> > declaration of the obvious suppression of other beliefs by the muslim >> faith. >> > Many argue that the Kadhi courts have had no visible effect to the >> > lively >> > hoods of other faiths. But what is not clear, is why a particular faith >> > should want to be treated as more superior than all others. If you use >> the >> > example of the Nigerian system, this system will become obvious when >> > federalism comes to age in Kenya. Here the rights of other faiths will >> > be >> > automatically suppressed as they will have no rights in the >> > constitution. >> > The Sheriah law will already have a head start and if a federal state, >> > by >> > the fact that constitutionally the muslim faith is already entrenched, >> then >> > you will have to contend with the rules governing the state you will be >> in. >> > Today in Nigeria, the Sheria law is about to abolish face book which has >> > been championing the rights of other people in the face of this faith >> which >> > many in Kenya do not profess to. I have opted to use Nigeria as an >> example >> > because it is the current stage where Christianity and Islam are on >> constant >> > collision course due to entrenchment of muslim faith in the federal >> states. >> > When you say yes to this constitution, you are simply setting the stage >> for >> > future confrontation and judging by the implementation of issues by the >> > Islamic fundamentals, you may as well un-subscribe to such forums in >> > advance. I believe you all remember the agreement one politician had >> signed >> > with the muslims in return for their support. 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Thank you. > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim > Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda > Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, > Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by > Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 From litshooz at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 05:47:25 2010 From: litshooz at gmail.com (maina ndiritu) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:47:25 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] RE: RE: RE: IS KENYA A MUSLIM STATE??? In-Reply-To: <4BB872F80200004F00028A75@vennamo.phks.fi> References: <4BB712C40200004F00028A4C@vennamo.phks.fi> <28480.81016.qm@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001e01cad36c$b0ac6fe0$12054fa0$@com> <4BB859A30200004F00028A6C@vennamo.phks.fi> <000001cad3ca$70cce090$5266a1b0$@com> <4BB872F80200004F00028A75@vennamo.phks.fi> Message-ID: <000c01cad3db$d6e80970$84b81c50$@com> I see you have taken this matter very eloquently , I am proud to have infuriated you as such , I wonder however .. since other east African countries do not have the courts , does that mean we shouldn?t ? and yes the courts should be in every part of the country as there are Muslims everywhere , there is no honor in a dead sultan , and yet , I have claimed no prophesies I do not accept things because they exist or do not , I am against bigotry in the name of nationhood , I am against the propagation of hate , I am against the dissemination of falsehoods First and foremost , it is not people like me that almost killed Galileo , it was the Christians and their church , I have not borrowed anybody's brains , not even the Christians and their chaotic dogmas , you seem to me to be the Christian here , aptly named Paul , I assume after the one in the book , was his name Paul or Saul ? I will never know , the great persecutor of God It is terribly obnoxious that the only thing you see wrong with this constitution is the Khadhi courts and your assumed propagation of Islam , your arguments are based on pseudo Christianic agendas , perhaps it is you who is harboring expansionist ideals , we seek tolerance and understanding not hate , prejudice and falsehoods , why would you want to deny your brothers and sisters their constitutional entitlements ? , is there anyone who has denied the inclusion of you values in the constitution ? or is it just best that if you cannot have yours then nobody should ? How dare you ask of my integrity ?, you are willed to the idiotic dogma of the Christians , where here is your integrity ? you ask me of my integrity ? my integrity is intact like my tolerance , I do not subscribe to any , the will to system is a lack of integrity , It is you who should wake up for I haven?t ever slept If my empty cell can have a little logic , that is enough for me , I wish it not to be full of intolerance Why do you think we needed a new constitution ? was it only to argue the validity of the Khadhi courts ? By your expressions it is the only contestable inclusion , such vanity , you are indeed vexing Maina ndiritu KAINOOK AGENCIES LIMITED P.O.Box 210 Uhuru Gardens Nairobi 00517 Kenya Tel. +254 020 2018907 Mo. +254 722707900 kainook at swiftkenya.com litshooz at gmail.com ICQ? - 167192098 Your arguments are malignant and depressing , it is I who should have no more time for your kind -----Original Message----- From: Paul Nyandoto [mailto:paul.nyandoto at phsotey.fi] Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:08 AM To: maina ndiritu; mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Subject: Vs: RE: RE: IS KENYA A MUSLIM STATE??? How many countries make up east africa?. And how many East african countries are inhabitated by muslims, or christians, or hindus, or even jews, infact almost all. So how many East african countries do have kadhi Courts in their constitution?. Infact to be more specific those courts were only allowed in the 10km strip along the coastal area, if you still want to honor your Hon. Sultan. They were not to be in whole country as you are now prophesising, you should update your hard disc please. Ndiritu, do not be a man who accept things because they exist. You know sometimes ago a person who said that the earth goes around the sun instead of the sun goes around the earth was almost killed by people like you. Dedan Kimathi died because he wanted people like you to use their own brains instead of borrowing from sultans or whites, wake up. Have your integrity intact then I will take time to communicate with you. I do consider this subject closed between you and me. Because you have put your logics out of an empty cell. I just hope Wako delete those kadhi courts from the constituion. I do not have time to throw away. Just think why Kenyans need a new constitution. Do we need it for kadhi courts?. Paul Nyandoto >>> "maina ndiritu" 4/4/2010 8:42 >>> First there is no demand for rituals only arbitration and on personal matters at that , secondly the sultan was merely protecting the interests of his subjects , who I might add are still within our society , are you saying since the sultan is dead , this subjects should no longer be protected ? Kimathi did not die because of an islamist agenda , he died for the liberation of this country from the colonial yoke and bigotry from the likes of yourself , he did not die so that we oppress another , stop dragging his name into your wretchedness I doubt you have any knowledge on the contents of the Khadhi clause , perhaps this would be a good time to read and understand its mandate other than blindly arguing its validity , are you pushing an agenda you know so little of ? scars are scars , do you heals yours by inflicting scars on others ? I am not aware of any dictatorial tendencies of the Khadhi courts , would you be kind enough to enlighten me on this matter I am not in support of anything for that matter , and stop insinuating that I am , who is going to pay for the running of the Khadhi courts ? are you saying the Muslims in this country do not pay taxes ? The Khadhi courts have nothing absolutely to do with you , why are you hell bent on its destruction ? toddlers brain I agree , I have reason in it ... yours would be ? My pride is not only in being an African , it's also embedded in my humanity Maina ndiritu KAINOOK AGENCIES LIMITED P.O.Box 210 Uhuru Gardens Nairobi 00517 Kenya Tel. +254 020 2018907 Mo. +254 722707900 kainook at swiftkenya.com litshooz at gmail.com ICQ - 167192098 -----Original Message----- From: Paul Nyandoto [mailto:paul.nyandoto at phsotey.fi] Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:20 AM To: maina ndiritu; mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Subject: Vs: RE: IS KENYA A MUSLIM STATE??? Mr. Ndiritu, You have completely failed to answer my questions I did place in the last paragraph of my writting. I have not seen those simple questions answered in this angry note you have placed. By the way we are trying to move away from a dictatorship with this so glorious new constitution you are supporting so please if you want to answer anything or say anything about my writtings then try to answer the simple questions I have placed . The fact that Sultan died long time ago should also give us an opportunity to do away with his courts. By the way the people who killed mau mau fighters also died already, even the people who sold africans into slavery: but you know what? the scar is still there. How are those courts going to be run, by whose money?. I am not an extremist, but I would like to understand why we are being dictated to accept kadhi courts without any proper reason given. Most of the so called eloquent writters in this forum including you have just said that since they were there in the old constitution let them be there; that is a toddlers brain, we are not any more under slavery. Kenya and kenyans are free to kick out those slave dillers courts away from our lives for ever. By the way where is your african pride hidden?. Paul Nyandoto >>> "maina ndiritu" 4/3/2010 9:31 >>> Kenya is not an Islamic state and never will be , it is not a Christian state either , Kenya is a republic where the constitution guarantees practice of faith , whichever it maybe , the court in question deals with the personal legalities of the Muslim community, it does not touch the criminal , commercial or constitutional justice systems and is therefore not a threat to the Christians or others for that matter , It would be enlightening to see where "sharia" law is in the constitution as Mr. Nyandoto put it , I figure he is an evangelist by his anger , an extremist at that , I fail to understand the statement about Africans and self determination , is it that we do not have sedentary Africans as Muslims ? , is that unless we are Africans of other religions we cannot be self determinant ? the Sultan died ages ago , his rule died with him I am sure there are more pressing issues with our constitution such as Equity ,education , health and so on that need urgent attention , it is appalling and shameful to see the evangelists push their propagandist agenda so hard , haven't they made enough money from the gullible citizenry , is it not enough ? must they christianize this country ? If the Christian community [read evangelist] feel unrepresented in the constitution , the right and honorable thing would be to seek redress , not the crusades against a minority , that is selfish , mischievous , immoral and disheartening I fear the lord's resistance army Kenya chapter is on our door steps , who would be its generals I wonder ? If you were actually complaining about the irreverent offices created by the constitution to give a heavier burden to the tax payer , I would listen to you .. but an office created to look after a part of our community , that is your only complaint ? which does not affect any part of your existence or any non Muslim , There is something very wrong with that , I fear you are the ones with an agenda Maina ndiritu KAINOOK AGENCIES LIMITED P.O.Box 210 Uhuru Gardens Nairobi 00517 Kenya Tel. +254 020 2018907 Mo. +254 722707900 kainook at swiftkenya.com litshooz at gmail.com ICQ - 167192098 From: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com [mailto:mlalahoi at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David ochwangi Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 5:03 PM To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Cc: paul.nyandoto at phsotey.fi Subject: Re: IS KENYA A MUSLIM STATE??? I'm with you 100% Daktari, this is not going to stand and we need to ask all our NON-MUSLIM fellow Kenyans to simply vote this thing down; our real power is always at the BALLOT BOX and we have the numbers, let's not under-estimate that. Equal rights and access to everyone or none at all, this draft, as you properly note, makes Kenya effectively a MUSLIM state, Islam is the ONLY religion mentioned and recognized in the document, it is the only one whose laws are interpretted and enforced by taxpayer funded courts, so as a NON-MUSLIM, I just don't see how I can vote for a document that is so blatantly discriminatory, it just doesn't make sense. Now there are some who argue that this thing has been around for so long and to them I say, hasn't the rest of the constitution been around? Did we get a chance to vote for it at the beginning? And if that is the case, what difference does it make one way or the other now for Christians to vote for something does completely ignores their views on such a sacrosanct subject, I say HELL NO! This this MUST be rejected, let's get it right! --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Paul Nyandoto wrote: From: Paul Nyandoto Subject: IS KENYA A MUSLIM STATE??? To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 3:04 AM Kenyans, We can`t wait to see suffering stopped, injustice corrected, and prosperity begun. Christians too have much to learn about Jesus death and ressurrection. We must not let our personal desires catch us up and prevent us from seeing the truth. Why should Kadhi`s courts or sheria law be included in our constitution again almost 47 years down the line from independence?. Christians have also to remember that following Christ involves hardships. It may include suffering and even death. Christians are right to be upset about kadhi courts in the Kenyan constitution especially when the parliament passes kadhi courts just on the eve of easter holiday. Easter holiday is celebrated by all Christians around the world: Jesus was resurrected from the dead on the third day after his cruxifixion. Why can`t Kenya learn from Nigeria or Somalia where kadhi courts are the order of the day, or Sudan, for heavenly sake why is Sudan dividing now or why is Nigeria not stable almost 50 years after independence. To the coastal people who wanted a devolution of government, majimbo and were to create local governments are you now silent because they have included Kadhi courts in the constitution or what?. Where is the 3 tier of government or creation of local government for the people disappeared to?. I thought that these guys were serious that they wanted to manage their local resources to get rid of poverty. Kenyans are not seeing a head very clearly. A new constitution is good just like any new clothes or shoes bought to a kid or a person who lacked them, but after sometimes he will see the bad sides or see if the shoes are really suitable for long distance walk or leaving wounds on the leg every time he uses them?. Kenyans have also elected a group of goons as Mps, they have mouths like goose but can not decide on anything good for the country: Or is this a trick for the new constitution to be rejected and people remain with the present one?. Passing the constitution was a great thing, but passing Kadhi courts in a country dominated by christians is just an abuse to our rights, and our self determination. I can not believe that the courts which were introduced by sultan of Zanziber will still follow us after losing even people Like Dedan Kimathi, who died for our freedom so that africans can have their country back and introduce self determination and self rule. Why even bother sueing the British government over Mau mau when we still leave our people to be governed by sultan`s courts. Do Kenyans want to say that colonialism by the British was more worse than colonialism by Arabs and slavery etc. So let Kenyans be still under kadhi influences. What type of a country Kenya will be if all religions starts to demand a right of their rituals in the constitution?. And by the way what is special about kadhi Courts, what do they offer muslims which the ordinary courts do not offer?: Why are these questions constantly being ignored?. 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Paul Nyandoto >>> orina Nyamwamu 4/3/2010 2:11? >>> Wako must be watched very carefully so that he does not generate a contentious draft as he has done with many laws before. Even the 2005 Wako draft is not what MPs passed in Parliament. It is not even what Kilifi generated. The smiling AG is so sinister. Christine you are are so right. Cyprian Orina Nyamwamu Happy Easter Brothers and Sisters --- On Fri, 4/2/10, Christine Baraza wrote: From: Christine Baraza Subject: [YP_Ke] KENYANS MUST WATCH WAKO NOT TO CHANGE THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 3:32 PM The Constitution process has now reached a CRUCIAL STAGE that requires more VIGILANCE from Kenyans lest Wako inserted clauses that will totally change the spirit and the Constitution to the benefit of the people who have kept him in office since 1991. The good thing with this Constitution is that its states that all important officers like the Attorney General, Chief Justice and the Judges will have to RESIGN and new ones apointed in a competitive, open and transparent way with parliamentary approval. Given that Wako knows that he must resign once this Constitution is passed in a referendum, we mst be vigilant and watch him keenly, Immediately Wako gazettes this Bill, we must all make sure that we compare the Draft with the original Draft for COE. COE must also ensure that the Draft that goes to the people of Kenya is the one that they handed over to Parliament. Last year there was a case where Wako was accused by parliament of altering an Act of parliament so PEOPLE LETS BE CAREFUL WITH AMOS WAKO. To KEEP his job Wako is always READY to do anything and approve ANYTHING..Make sure that YOU COMPARE the draft from WAKO and the one COE released recently...WE MUST CONTINUE KEEPING VIGILANCE... --- On Fri, 4/2/10, maina ndiritu wrote: From: maina ndiritu Subject: RE: I must Salute President Kibaki - He is not a PNU Person To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 1:39 AM Aaah harry , because the president said something you like so he is now a good man and a statesman? , he is surrounded by sharks and that is how the elections were stolen? , is he not the beneficiary of that thievery if at all it did occur? ? is he still a good statesman ? perhaps I should be saying things you like , you might brand me reasonable , in principle a good man with or without sharks From: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com [mailto:mlalahoi at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:55 AM To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com; Harrison Mumia N Subject: I must Salute President Kibaki - He is not a PNU Person My Friends, I come to you with Good News. A new day is born. A new moment in the history of Kenyans. The CoE Draft Constitution has been passed by parliament and now goes to the people of Kenya for a referendum. For the first time though, i had a chance to see Mr. Kibaki, who i? will now call President Kibaki, displaying a side of him which i had never thought of. This was in parliament at around 8.45 PM. Friends, and particularly my ODM friends, Kibaki is a reasonable person after-all. He is infarct in principle a good man. He is an old man who was surrounded by PNU sharks and thats how the election was stolen. But he is possibly a statesman. Maybe he has become a little bit too old. Maybe he is But he spoke like a statesman. Kibaki told parliament that the constitution can always be amended. He encouraged them to pass the draft. He thanked the Speaker for displaying leadership. I must applaud him on this. And he is an eloquent man, this Kibaki fellow. I therefore urge all of us, from today on, lets give him support for the remaining two years, as we adopt a new constitution, which will guarantee the right of Kenyans. God Bless Kenya.? -- PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE MANY VACANCIES: http://www.myafricancareer.net/ FREE CLASSIFIEDS ADS: http://bit.ly/aZbpFV TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR You are subscribed to the Google Groups "MlalaHoi" group. To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mlalahoi?hl=en -- PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE MANY VACANCIES: http://www.myafricancareer.net/ FREE CLASSIFIEDS ADS: http://bit.ly/aZbpFV TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR You are subscribed to the Google Groups "MlalaHoi" group. 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URL: From bernard.kingara at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 10:34:32 2010 From: bernard.kingara at gmail.com (Bernard Kingara) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:34:32 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] THE KENYAN CHURCH IS BETRAYING KENYANS AGAIN In-Reply-To: References: <257212.60821.qm@web43512.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <87041.69832.qm@web113819.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Christine you have a problem. Please stop insulting people. Cardinal Njue is not someone you refer to as 'Njue' and then insult as you please. He was appointed by the Pope and is venerated by Catholics around the world not just in Kenya. If you disagree with him, then respect him. If he opposes the draft, then you should support it and leave it at that. One more thing Christine, freedom of speech does not mean you can say anything you want as you and your bloggers will realise. Happy Easter anyway. On Apr 4, 2010 5:16 AM, "Christine Baraza" wrote: Its almost the theatre of the ABSURD when you hear NCCK Secretary KARANJA saying that the church was... --- On *Fri, 4/2/10, Will Keku * wrote: From: Will Keku Subject: [YP_Ke] VOTE NO TO THE CONSTITUION To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 1:44 AM The band has played its last song and the curtains have been drawn, the stage has now been set for the final and decisive stage of the constitution of Kenya. To decide whether to vote ?No? or to vote ? yes? will not be a light decision for Kenyans. They now hold the future of the faith of their country in their hands. Chairman of the COE was quick in his closing words to explain the contentious issues, which to him revolved around devolution and the abortion debate. To him, the issue of the kadhi courts is not an issue worth mentioning. The dismissal of a fundamental belief of the Christian faith clearly shows the stand the chairman took, which by such silence is a loud declaration of the obvious suppression of other beliefs by the muslim faith. Many argue that the Kadhi courts have had no visible effect to the lively hoods of other faiths. But what is not clear, is why a particular faith should want to be treated as more superior than all others. If you use the example of the Nigerian system, this system will become obvious when federalism comes to age in Kenya. Here the rights of other faiths will be automatically suppressed as they will have *no rights* in the constitution. The Sheriah law will already have a head start and if a federal state, by the fact that constitutionally the muslim faith is already entrenched, then you will have to contend with the rules governing the state you will be in. Today in Nigeria, the Sheria law is about to abolish face book which has been championing the rights of other people in the face of this faith which many in Kenya do not profess to. I have opted to use Nigeria as an example because it is the current stage where Christianity and Islam are on constant collision course due to entrenchment of muslim faith in the federal states. When you say yes to this constitution, you are simply setting the stage for future confrontation and judging by the implementation of issues by the Islamic fundamentals, you may as well un-subscribe to such forums in advance. I believe you all remember the agreement one politician had signed with the muslims in return for their support. Even though the politician tried to refute, the muslim leaders came out strongly to say the contrary. 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For me, more than any thing else, it is a test of democracy and one way to break the hardline tradtional political lines. Yes, i am from North Eastern Kenya and yes, ethnic somali. I am also looking for a candidate from Kisumu or Eldoret, or someother place (non-somali) to contest in Mandera, wajir or Garissa. Anyone up for this challenge? I front this to you, the YPs, because i believe you are the more rational, realist and learned group. What are your thoughts? Thanks, Aliyoung M. On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 3:45 AM, MOSES HAYA wrote: > Even me am going to vote no to the new constitution. > > On 4/1/10, Will Keku wrote: > > > > > > > > The band has played its last song and the curtains have been drawn, the > > stage has now been set for the final and decisive stage of the > constitution > > of Kenya. To decide whether to vote ?No? or to vote ? yes? will not be a > > light decision for Kenyans. They now hold the future of the faith of > their > > country in their hands. > > Chairman of the COE was quick in his closing words to explain the > > contentious issues, which to him revolved around devolution and the > abortion > > debate. To him, the issue of the kadhi courts is not an issue worth > > mentioning. The dismissal of a fundamental belief of the Christian faith > > clearly shows the stand the chairman took, which by such silence is a > loud > > declaration of the obvious suppression of other beliefs by the muslim > faith. > > Many argue that the Kadhi courts have had no visible effect to the lively > > hoods of other faiths. But what is not clear, is why a particular faith > > should want to be treated as more superior than all others. If you use > the > > example of the Nigerian system, this system will become obvious when > > federalism comes to age in Kenya. Here the rights of other faiths will be > > automatically suppressed as they will have no rights in the constitution. > > The Sheriah law will already have a head start and if a federal state, by > > the fact that constitutionally the muslim faith is already entrenched, > then > > you will have to contend with the rules governing the state you will be > in. > > Today in Nigeria, the Sheria law is about to abolish face book which has > > been championing the rights of other people in the face of this faith > which > > many in Kenya do not profess to. I have opted to use Nigeria as an > example > > because it is the current stage where Christianity and Islam are on > constant > > collision course due to entrenchment of muslim faith in the federal > states. > > When you say yes to this constitution, you are simply setting the stage > for > > future confrontation and judging by the implementation of issues by the > > Islamic fundamentals, you may as well un-subscribe to such forums in > > advance. I believe you all remember the agreement one politician had > signed > > with the muslims in return for their support. Even though the politician > > tried to refute, the muslim leaders came out strongly to say the > contrary. > > The agenda is there, which music will you play to? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by > Jim > > Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda > > Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, > > Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by > > Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In > 3 > > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & > Easy > > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > > Swahili > > > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning > Exercise, > > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 > 663 > > 208 > > > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > > > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by > Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > -- __________________________________ Dr. Ali Mahamud ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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URL: From abraham.mwololo at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 15:57:55 2010 From: abraham.mwololo at gmail.com (Abraham Mwololo) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:57:55 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Biblical Story of Noah's Ark ---- Unanswered Questions In-Reply-To: References: <275648.74863.qm@web32807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <870AEE5CA429AE45B6FFE6F4CF7619120F85E9C32B@AA-CL-01-EX-MBX.fpt.int.org> Message-ID: Harry, If you and Solomon are meeting for a beer, ebu count me in... Coming to think of it, why dont we organise a session where all the Free thinkers in this forum can come together and have really open talks. I'm guessing that being absolute authorities in our selves, we will not require any guests of honor or such like patronage. Who knows, a movement might be in the offing. Harry... Gilbert... Solomon... anyone? Father Abraham On 4/2/10, Random Notes wrote: > @Gilbert > > Yours is probably the most intelligent approach and contribution to this > debate, you advocate shedding light where there is darkness, knowledge > instead of ignorance and what I enjoy the most is when you advice that these > are many answers to the same question - none of them adequate yet and we > should keep searching to close the 'ontological gap' . > > @Harry > > Your posts are thought provoking, what most surprises me is the lack of > intellectual and well thought out responses from your opponents. Most of > them prefer threats, ignorance and anti-intellectualism. The first and > easiest defense of this tale that I expected would be that the story is > allegorical and not literal. Alas! no eloquent or worthy opponent in this > debate has emerged. > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Gilbert muyumbu < > Gilbert.muyumbu at actionaid.org> wrote: > >> Friends, >> >> Allow those few of us daring the wrath of the Unknown to say something on >> this matter. And please, do not shout when responding to what is >> postulated >> here. Argue your point rationally! >> >> Let me start with what you and I may agree upon before we go into what we >> may not necessarily agree upon. We agree that there could be a >> supernatural >> being regulating life on earth and keeping everything in order. Why I may >> be >> persuaded to think so is based on two philosophical arguments postulated >> by >> the likes of Arthur Schopenhauer; that the human mind, confined in >> geographical/physical space has a mind that can only perceive what is >> physical; that this mind is shaped only to observe 3-dimensional reality >> and >> cannot authoritatively claim to know what exists in say the 4th or >> 5thdimension. Given this, I may be persuaded to agree that probably the >> supernatural being behind order in the world resides in the 4th or >> 5thdimensions hidden from human perception. Argument number two and >> related to >> one is that since the human mind has not reached the maturity to grasp all >> reality in its entirety, there necessarily exists a gap of knowledge >> called >> the ?ontological gap? into which all questions in the human mind that have >> not received adequate answers are confined. This ontological gap is the >> dark >> space where questions of existence such as who created intelligent life, >> how >> did life come into being, are there living creatures beyond our immediate >> solar system, what happens when people die etc are confined. It is >> probably >> in this ontological gap where the supernatural being is hidden for the >> time >> being. Initially, this ontological gap was so huge that it had questions >> such as is the earth flat or spherical, questions which science, through >> it >> apostles such as Galileo Galilee helped pull out of the gap. I am sure >> many >> more questions still in this ontological gap will be resolved some day as >> progress is made. >> >> >> >> So we agree that there is a limit to the human mind to grasp reality in >> its >> entirety and that there exists an ontological gap in which all human >> puzzles >> are parked for the time being as conclusive and convincing answers for >> them >> are being sought. >> >> >> >> Now, turning to what we may not agree on. The questions of existence that >> are confined to the ontological gap have confronted all humanity all over >> the world at all times. Every human race has wondered ?who created >> intelligent life?? ?what happens when people die?? etc. And every human >> race >> has attempted to answer these questions. Though their answers may have >> been >> varied, they are not substantially different. They have placed God as the >> overriding answer to the questions emanating from the ontological gap. God >> has been used as the standard answer to questions from the ontological >> gap. >> Questions of death, who created life, is there life in the solar system >> etc >> have received the same answer ? God. Yet the question to ask is, does this >> answer really exhaustively provide solution to the questions? Is the human >> answer of God to the questions from the ontological gap correct even if we >> believed it as so for millions of years? >> >> >> >> Moving on, since every human race has grappled with questions from the >> ontological gap, their answers have been subjective, based on their >> subjective history and circumstances. My ancestors, for example, when >> confronted with these questions answered ?Were.? A Jew when faced with the >> same questions answered ?Yahweh? etc; >> >> >> >> Due to differences in advances amongst different human races, including >> differences in military might, ability to write and document history etc >> and >> knowing that the story of the conqueror is always the prevailing story >> over >> others, the Jewish answer to the questions emanating from the ontological >> gap becomes the most dominant answer to supersede all other answers from >> other people, including my ancestors. If my ancestors had been world >> conquerors, their answer to these questions would have been the most >> dominant with the heroes of their history becoming the heroes of the world >> today; the Davids, Moses, Abrahams, Isaacs and Noahs of their history >> would >> be the heroes liberally referred to today. >> >> >> >> Historically, how does the Jewish answer to questions from the ontological >> gap become the most dominant across the world? Because Christianity (part >> of >> the Jewish answer) took over, beginning from the reign of Constantine, the >> most powerful empire on earth, the Roman empire, it becomes part of the >> conquering ideology. With the eventual fall of the Roman empire, the >> Church >> takes over and using the structures and might left behind by the collapsed >> empire, spreads, from around AD 200 to BC 1600, the one Jewish answer as >> the >> single most important answer to the questions emanating from the >> ontological >> gap. All other races, including the Europeans who later colonize Africans >> inherit this Jewish answer to the questions from the ontological gap. >> Africans eventually inherit this answer through colonization, call >> themselves Christians and are indoctrinated to believe that their own >> answer >> to questions from the ontological gap were inadequate. >> >> >> >> What we are contesting therefore is that one subjective answer, the JEWISH >> answer and heroes of its history ? Moses, Abraham, Noah etc, cannot be the >> only answer to the questions from the ontological gap. There are other >> answers that are as legitimate or illegitimate as the JEWISH answer; the >> African answer for instance, still remains as legitimate an answer to >> these >> questions as the JEWISH answer. However, we need to note that all these >> answers, Jewish, African etc remain not answers based on any tangible >> evidence, but are mere human mind suppositions that do not adequately >> answer >> the questions from the ontological gap. However old, elaborately >> documented, >> numerously referred to or hugely revered Holy Books and cultures may be, >> they spring from the limited human minds that are limited by the >> 3-dimensional confines alluded to above. They cannot therefore >> authoritatively respond to questions emanating from the ontological gap. >> Their ?facts? are not based on tangible evidence and can only make sense >> through belief, which as has been acknowledged, is irrational, and which >> as >> we know, can never be the basis of interaction in a modern world. >> >> >> >> The problem then comes when one wants to impose these inadequate answers >> to >> the rest of humanity, through superstitious threats and intolerant and >> arrogant dogmatic disclaimers such as ?you will be mad if you question >> God? >> or ?a fool says there is no God? etc aimed at intimidating into silence >> those questioning the basis of these inadequate answers. The problem also >> is >> when these inadequate answers are cast in stone and remain unchanged even >> with the evidence afforded us by science, a human development that is >> slowly >> reducing the space previously occupied by the ontological gap. >> >> In conclusion then, we must say that the JEWISH answer to questions of >> existence, origin of life etc, whether elaborated colorfully through the >> Old >> Testament or improved upon in the New Testament, is neither adequate nor >> the >> only answer to these questions. Therefore the Holy Book arising out of >> Jewish history is just a human supposition to the questions of existence >> and >> cannot be taken to be the exhaustive answer to these questions. >> >> >> >> Some word of advice to our colleagues, please, do not rush to muzzle >> people >> using the Bible whenever they put across questions of existence; it is an >> inadequate answer and it is in competition with other equally inadequate >> answers. What you and I who live in the 21st Century should be doing to >> improve the lot of humanity is to seek adequate answers to those >> questions. >> Join the likes of Galileo (who questioned the prevalent notion that the >> earth is flat), Charles Darwin (who questioned the idea that life began >> with >> Adam and Eve), Copernicus et al in looking for these answers and in >> reducing >> the space occupied by the ontological gap instead of always rushing to the >> Bible as reference material for these questions. This is an anachronistic >> practice that belongs to the 18th Century amongst progressive societies. >> >> >> >> Muyumbu >> >> >> >> *From:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com [mailto: >> youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Ouko >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 30, 2010 2:15 AM >> >> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: [YP_Ke] Biblical Story of Noah's Ark ---- Unanswered >> Questions >> >> >> >> I think what u fail to understand is that God operates outside the realm >> of >> time and space. While science only attempts to explore and explain the >> natural phenomena, it has no pretence to posses the tools to even begin to >> understand the supernatural. >> >> >> >> May I also remind you that for a good reason, thechristian faith is >> anchored on faith and not knowledge. This is why every time they asked >> Jesus >> for a miracle, he always asked them, "Do you belive?" This is simply >> because >> He who knows the end from the begining only gives us enough information so >> as to believe since he understands that faith is prejudice. >> >> Martin Ouko >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> >> On Mar 29, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Gilbert muyumbu < >> Gilbert.muyumbu at actionaid.org> wrote: >> >> Hello Harry, >> >> I find your questions relevant and interesting but I got answers for them >> way back in my first year class at KU way back in 1997 through a course >> called Introduction to Philosophy by one Prof. Kenneth Wambari. We still >> hold onto these Grand Old Narratives tightly because we have refused to >> engage in one aspect of that course called Critical Thinking. I would also >> refer you to the writings of Philip Ochieng of Sunday Nation. >> >> >> >> Muyumbu >> >> >> >> *From:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com [mailto: >> youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Harry >> *Sent:* Monday, March 29, 2010 12:06 PM >> *To:* mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com; >> Harrison Mumia N >> *Subject:* [YP_Ke] Biblical Story of Noah's Ark ---- Unanswered Questions >> >> >> >> Like me or hate me, it doesn't really bother me. So my religious brethren >> s, the story of Noah's Ark elicits more questions than answers in the >> Bible. >> As i continue to interrogate the Bible, my hope is that as Africans, we >> shall eventually see that the colonial masters duped us into embracing >> religion blindly. >> >> >> >> 1. God saw how great wickedness had become and decided to wipe mankind >> from the face of the earth. This doesn't make sense. *Wipe the whole of >> earth because of a few sinners?* >> 2. God also instructed Noah to bring into the ark two of *all living >> creatures*, male and female, along with every kind of food to be stored >> as food for the animals and his family while on the ark. Noah obeyed >> everything God commanded him to do. -- Is this practical? *How does one >> bring all animals on earth and food to store in some wooden ark? How >> does >> one manage this feat!!* >> 3. After they entered the ark, rain fell on the earth for a period of >> forty days and nights. The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and >> fifty >> days, and every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out. >> *What??! >> Picture this...how does it rain across the entire globe? And if i was >> in >> Africa at that time, surely why should God punish me for some sins >> committed >> in Israel?!** * >> 4. Later God established a covenant with Noah: "Never again will there >> be a flood to destroy the earth." As a sign of this everlasting >> covenant God >> set a rainbow in the clouds. *What??!! 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Direct extension of Kenyan occupation by the sultan of Zanzibar ? is this man dead or not ? or perhaps ndugu Mrisho Kikwete is the said sultan ? has there been a Zanzibari cessation from the mainland ? , Honestly ... you have nothing to say , no knowledge of the subject you approach , as a matter of fact , this is a chaotic pile of rubbish -----Original Message----- From: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com [mailto:mlalahoi at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Nyandoto Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:51 PM To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Subject: KADHI COURTS AND ISLAM ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS Dear Kenyans, I have got or received some very low life explanation about Kadhi courts. It is even unfortunate that some of those explanation do come even from real Islamic believers who end up calling us ignorant of the kadhi courts. Kadhi courts exist in Kenya because sultan of zanzibar introduced them to the 10 km strip land along the coastal area of kenya as away of administration, just like the British also did divide and rule tactics.. Those land were under Sultan of zanzibar who was by then ruling and his governmental system wanted to hold those lands for ever. The sultan never paid or never bought those lands from the poor africans who were living in those areas, he just took them and the ones who resisted were sold to america as slaves. Kadhi courts and Islam as a religion are two completely different things. Kadhi courts do serve man and the sultan, NOT GOD. ISLAM as a religion serves God just as any other religion we see in kenya except atheism. I just do not see why I should be called anti islam or against muslims if I do not want Kadhi courts in our constitution. To me kadhi courts are a direct extension of kenyan occupation by the sultan of zanzibar. Those courts hide a lot of child abuses in families, hide a lot of slavery on women, men end up exploiting women under those courts. Inheritance of wealth by females become almost imposible on those courts, go to Nigeria or sudan and see what I am talking about. The kadhi courts allow direct polygamist and women slavery which any normal brain thinking creature should not accept. Kenya as a state do have already courts so why the duplicate. What do those courts give which kenyan government courts are not giving. We want all Kenyans to be equal under tha country`s law. So please fellow muslim brothers and some who support you blindly when informing us about Kadhi courts do not fool us around as you have been doing. Those courts serve man and the Sultan ( King), while islam serves GOD the almighty. Doing away with those kadhi courts in the constitution will not change your faith even by an inch. I am wrong?. Paul Nyandoto -- MANY VACANCIES: http://bit.ly/bROydQ TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 From litshooz at gmail.com Sun Apr 4 16:40:43 2010 From: litshooz at gmail.com (maina ndiritu) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:40:43 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] why this attributes ? Message-ID: <000001cad437$1b204570$5160d050$@com> It has been some time now since I asked this question , no one has yet come to my aid , I shall ask again , why this attributes ? HORUS - Egypt 3000 BC Was born on the 25th of December by the virgin Isis , his birth was accompanied by a star in the East and upon his birth was adored by three kings , at the age of 12 he was a prodigal child teacher , at the age of 30 he was baptized by a figure known as Anap and thus began his ministry , Horus had 12 disciples he travelled about with performing miracles such as healing the sick and walking on water. Horus was known by many gestural names such as the truth , the light , Gods anointed son , the good shepherd , the lamb of God and many others , After being betrayed by typhon , was crucified , buried for three days and thus resurrected This attributes of Horus whether original or not , seem to permeate many cultures of the world , many other Gods have the same general mythological structure ATTIA OF FRIGIA - GREECE 1200 BC Was born of the virgin Nana on December 25th , , was crucified , buried for three days and thus resurrected KRISHNA - INDIA 900 BC Was born of the virgin Davaki , on December 25th , with a star in the east signaling his coming , he performed miracles with his disciples and upon his death was resurrected DIONYSUS - GREECE 500BC Was born of a virgin on December 25th , was a travelling teacher who performed miracles such as turning water into wine . he was referred to as the King of Kings , Gods only begotten son , the Alfa and omega and many others , and upon his death he was resurrected MITHRA OF PERSIA - 1200 BC Was born of a virgin on December 25th , had twelve disciples , performed miracles . upon his death was buried for three days and was resurrected , he was also referred to as the light , the truth and many others . interestingly the sacred day for his worship was Sunday The fact of the matter is that there are numerous savior's from different periods from all over the world who subscribe to this general characteristics Bhuddha Sakia of India Salivahana of Bermuda Zulis , Osiris and Horus of Egypt Odin of the Scandinavians Crite of Chaldea Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia Baal and Taut [ the only begotten of God ] of Phoenecia Indra of Tibet Bali of Afghanistan Jao of Nepal Wittoba of Bilingonese Thammuz of Syria Attys of Phyrgia Xamolxis of Thrace Zoar of the Bonzes Addad of Assyria Deva tat and sommonocadam of Siam Alcides of Thebes Mikado of the Sintoos Beddru of Japan Hesus or Eros and Bremrillah of the druids Thor son of Odin of the Gauls Cudmus of Greece Hil and Feta of the Mendaites Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico Fohi and Tien of China Adinis son of The virgin Io of Greece Ixion and Quirinus of Rome Prometheus of Caucasus And many others , the question is . 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Christians being one of them, should attract others by our Christlike actions but not feeling we have the numbers but don't do the will of God. The bible say's that we perish because of lack of understanding and knowledge, we need to read first and understand then evaluate the clause using the the true bible teachings. Don't follow church leaders or politicians read the draft and pray before you comment, seek God's will. Isaac. On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 3:35 PM, DAVID mburu wrote: > I am a Christian and on this one issue a fundamentalist. > > I am openly opposed to inclusion of Kadhis courts in our constitution > because it s the seeming harmless entry point for Sharia laws in our Land. > If this is not true why would the clause all religions will be treated the > same be removed from the draft when this has always been part of our > constitution. > > Anyhow I am now in the village and I am using my convincing power to tell > everyone why they should vote No. I did it on Sunday in my Church and more > than that we are praying to the God of heaven to deliver Kenya. God does not > need majority, Christians stand up and be counted. 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URL: From hmumia at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 03:28:30 2010 From: hmumia at gmail.com (Harry) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:28:30 +0100 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] The Kenya We Want!!! Message-ID: Dear All, As we approach 2012, politicians will be at it again, with promises of what they will do for us. But Kenyans really know what they want. And i want to list some of the things that will be at the core of Kenyans needs: 1. Kenyans want affordable, quality relevant education system that will make education not a means to access employment, but a way of empowering our youth to become independent in their thoughts and aspirations. 8-4-4 is not doing it for us. 2. Kenyans want access to affordable quality health. All Kenyans should be entitled to quality and affordable health, where its not just the rich who can be treated well, but also the poor. NHIF is not doing it for us. 3. Kenyans need to be guaranteed of jobs. Every Kenyan should work. And at minimum we should have unemployment rates of less than 5%. Currently majority of Kenyans are unemployed. 4. The quality of life of Kenyans needs to be improved, by reviewing the minimum wage for every Kenyan. In my view, any employed Kenyan should be entitled to a minimum wage that will support decent housing, food and other amenities. There should be a minimum wage policy. 5. Kenyans need a justice system that is efficient and accessible. Judgement take too long for it to be called justice. 6. Kenyans need a people friendly police force. We need to feel protected by the police force. The current police force is still embracing anti-people policies. Impunity is a part of our police force. 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URL: From Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com Mon Apr 5 09:47:24 2010 From: Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com (Dickens Odhiambo) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:47:24 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] -: Memories of the KANU Juu na juu days ( JUU ZAIDI) Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: CMW [mailto:nassehw at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:45 AM To: Dickens Odhiambo Subject: Re: -: Memories of the KANU Juu na juu days ( JUU ZAIDI) I think someone should trace the genesis of this Khadhi court thing. As I recall it begun before the referendum but seemed to gain steam before the election. The churches that were PNU sympathetic quickly painted the so called Raila Muslim MOU as a plot to use khadhi courts to introduce sharia law in Kenya. It is a warped argument- but no one should confuse piousness with intelligence. The other major factor for this thing is money. The biggest benefactors for most local Kenyan churches the past few years have been US evangelical churches. When they crow about abortion and khadi's courts the audience is not Kenyan but the US. There is also the issue of Chrisitan persecution complex. Christianity is a religion born out of a persecution complex. Both Kenya and the US have christian majorities, but you'd never know it by listening to their preachers. As far as Christian leaders are concerned, the church is under continous systematic attack. Wafula On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Dickens Odhiambo < Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com > wrote: -----Original Message----- From: Kuria-Mwangi [mailto: kjmwangi at gmail.com ] Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:44 PM To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com Cc: Kenya Forum; KCA; Africa-Oped; kenyaonline at yahoogroups.com Subject: [africa-oped] Re: [KOL] Re: Memories of the KANU Juu na juu days ( JUU ZAIDI) Maurice, One thing I also dont like is Church's hypocrisy. They kept quiet over Kadhi courts all those years and now they are shouting all over. Retaining the bad constitution will not solve the issues they raise. On abortion, the country is divided and no one can claim that they hold the right position. Anybody arguing that legalizing abortion will make people go it is not being sincere. Abortion has been illegal but law enforcement "close their eyes" and rarely arrest people unless a report was filed. It is like the case of prostitution which is illegal but openly carried. A few times the law enforcements officials make arrest but most times they let people do their business. Legalizing abortion may help women seek the procedure in safe environments and avoid those backstreet corners where many end up losing their lives. The church need to smell the coffee and recognize that making it illegal does not stop. I wish we will one day be able to vote for a single issue such as abortion during a general elections so that we can focus on the issue instead of using a minor issue to destroy major issues as it happens in a referendum. In USA, constituents can reverse an assembly/state senate decision by voting against the issue. This would help avoid cases an issue makes people lose track of important issues. What the church is doing is tantamount to chasing a rat coming out of a burning house with the hope of killing it instead of working on the major issue at hand (putting put the fire). Let them first stop the fire and then look for the rat after the important work is accomplished. On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:17 AM, < mauricejoduor at yahoo.ca > wrote: KM I agree with you. On balance the document is superior to what exists now and Kenyans should endorse it and then deal with other issues as Acts of Parliament Courage Maurice Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network _____ From: Kuria-Mwangi < kjmwangi at gmail.com > Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:10:04 -0400 To: < kenyaonline at yahoogroups.com > Cc: Africa-Oped< africa-oped at yahoogroups.com >; Mlalahoi< mlalahoi at googlegroups.com >; Kenya Forum< youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com >; KCA< kca_main at yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [KOL] Re: Memories of the KANU Juu na juu days ( JUU ZAIDI) hi Pastor Karogi, I am doing well hapa Baltimore. Kadhi courts had been with us from Independence and the British had them from 1895 to the time they gave in. We will have them even if we reject the new katiba so the argument by the church does not hold water. Kadhis are part of the judiciary and they only sit on cases involving Muslim litigants. This is because Islam unlike Christianity is a way of life and the law is therefore required to be settled in according to Islam especially on private/personal. One cannot be a Muslim and yet refuse to follow the Sharia on private matters such as marriage, divorce and inheritance. We cannot say the same for Christianity and so we must agree with everybody who says that it is good we have shown tolerance and respect for Islam even when we may disagree with Muslims. That is what a civilized society does and so we cannot use other countries as a means to show that Muslims should be denied their rights. We need to stand up for Muslims and show others what they ought to do because our is a beacon for hope and tolerance. We have had the Kadhi Courts for ages and nobody raised a finger. Now, continuing with the same, without giving Muslims more than what they have is not asking for too much. Let them have what they have and we move on. Now who pays for the Kadhis? The tax payers. The same way those people who fail to agree at family level can go to court and have a judge paid by GOK preside the case. The Kadhi has to be a Muslim and qualified to preside Muslim law. That in itself means we have to have special courts unless we dont want Muslims to receive justice. It is like expecting a Muslim judge to preside a Christian religious dispute when they know nothing about Christianity and when Christianity demands that religious disputes can only be deputized or presided by a Christians. Now Christian leaders are being ridiculous and silly when they say we dont vote for the new katiba. They vote no and we lose it and then we are stuck with stupid old katiba which has the same Kadhi court they dont want to see. How silly can one be especially knowing that the katiba they reject is superior to the one they will have. A no for the katiba means a yes for the retrogressive law. Please tell them that rejected the new constitution is tantamount to throwing a baby with the bath water. Only a fool would do that. Kuria On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Joe Karogi < karogi at yahoo.com > wrote: Kuria- Habari yako???how is MD ?? sasa who pays for the Kadhi court>? Karogi _____ From: Kuria-Mwangi < kjmwangi at gmail.com > To: kenyaonline at yahoogroups.com Cc: Mlalahoi < mlalahoi at googlegroups.com >; Kenya Forum < youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com >; KCA < kca_main at yahoogroups.com >; Africa-Oped < africa-oped at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 4:27:23 PM Subject: Re: [KOL] Re: Memories of the KANU Juu na juu days ( JUU ZAIDI) Faiza, Thanks. You have a sharp mind and I doubt you ever tasted that nyayo milk if you can recall all this info. Yes, it is Burundi Namwabwera who cried at KANU HQ and the fellow who made him cry like a baby was Okiki Amayo. Then very powerful KANU chairman. Never before had I seen an old man cry like in public the way Burundi Nambwera did. Mwanaharamu! This is it. Now I remember what is the name for bastard in Swahili. For strange reason Kikuyus dont have an equivalent. May be that explain why Kikuyus would forsake and completely forget bio father if all he did was donate sperm and then missed in action when the fellow needed him while the step-father becomes the hero! Now calling a Mswahili a bastard (mwanaharamu) seems like would invite lots of problem. Yes, Karisa Maitha called Sharrif Nassir of wapende wasipende fame a bastard and the old man cried in public! KANU had crowns and Shariff was numero uno! Kuria On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Faiza Hassan < antihongo at gmail. com > wrote: Kuria. Your mind is not rusty. What you have said here is nothing but truth. It was Karisg Maitha who called Shariff Nassir mwanaharamu. It was Burudi Nabwera who cried. I know you remember a lot. This is part of Kenya history. On 4/3/10, Kuria-Mwangi < kjmwangi at gmail. com > wrote: > Jared, > Thanks. I hope you were alive during the days of KANU juuu na juu zaidi:). I > cant remember who was incharge of SONU at this time but you can be sure that > your friends Buke and Miguna Miguna were in school then since they are my > peers and may have been at the helm of SONU, yours truly in KU. Then food > was under a moribund agency called USAB and I think it controlled all > university food and accommodation. Most times the Universities, especially > KU and UON acted in unison and had just come from a divorce with KU then > called KUC. > > Food services were deteriorating and students were always on streets over > food, poor services etc. That is why we kept on being told that were rioting > over food. Not too bad though but by the time I joined UON and then > transferred to KU after incitement from your friend Mwalimu Angaluki Muaka, > the food was something else. Folks working as managers in banks and other > places, graduates of the universities would sneak back to University esp. > UON CCU (Central Catering Unit or what we called Mess after NYS disservice) > for dinner and lunch. Good food and well cooked by trained cooks. Most of us > went home after suspensions and returned to university malnourished. You ate > well and gained weight in a few weeks only to lose the same after staying > home for a few weeks. > > Students were demanding better services on food and wanted Prof. Ngeno, then > minister for higher education address them, calling on VC for meetings they > called dialogues... ...So while rioting, we would shout, "we want dialogue, > we want dialogue". That didnt escape the ears of Chotara. > > So on the day of riots when GSU (then FFU-Fanya Funjo Uone) beat many > students senseless but campus was not closed as usual. The "we want > dialogue" was the clarion call by the students and Chotara must have heard > them shout on the street. > > Kariuki Chotara addressed the National assembly that afternoon. He asked > "kwani hiyo ndayarogu ni mbesa ngapi? kwanini hawavatiwi hio ndayarogu > wakure". > > On the menu day after Kariuki chotara's intervention was Chappati. I think > we used to get them on Thursdays but it strange to get them on a Wednesday > (cant remember the day but it was definitely not a chappati day". > > So from that day, students got to know that dialogue was chappo, thanks to > Kariuki Chotara. It is possible that during the riots, students may also > have demanded dialogue because chappos were not delivered on time and when > they are supposed to be on the menu. Blame my rusty mind for forgetting what > happened but you can be sure that Kariuki Chotara thought otherwise. > > Did you know that Kariuki Chotara was at one time detained with Jomo > Kenyatta and they were supposed to go on hunger strike? Jome refused and > Chotara punched him straight on the face and Jomo lost his ugly teeth which > hitherto were protruding and were later replaced? It is believed that > Chotara was kept in seclusion by Jomo and only brought his ugly mouth in > public after the death of Jomo and with Moi's intervention. That is why he > thought Moi was God's other son and then forgot to remind us that KANU ndio > baba na mama. He used to tell Naivasha residents in Gikuyu "KANU niyo nyukwa > na thoguo na Moi niwe thoguo" (KANU ndio mamako na babako and Moi ndiye > babako). In Gikuyu, it sounds insulting and on Moi, it sounded as if he was > telling them that Moi sired them. > > > Then there were two powerful KANU officials, Ole Tipis and Robert Matano. > Ole Tipis carried a rungu, a real one not like that carried by Moi and was a > Maasai one. They differed over policy issues and exchanged harsh words. Ole > Tipis got so upset that he withdrew his rungu and hammered three on Matano's > head. He was rushed to hospital. I remember the cartoons which came out of > it. Ole Tipis was hammering the rungu on mzee Matano three time, each time > he was shouting, Peace, Love and Unity....each for each strike. > > From Kirinyaga, we had Njiru and Njuno. Two sworn enemies, both in KANU. > Njuno is brother to JJ Kamotho's wife and both were ministers in Moi's Govt. > They differed in public and started wrestling. Njuno the bigger one landed > three upper cuts on the lean Njiru and landed him on the floor as he blooded > run from his noose. > > Njuno was later to address the press. Smiling, he proudly declared "I only > used my left hand. If I used my right hand, Njiru would be dead by now". > > Njiru later became a powerful but shortlived minister for Political Guidance > (whatever that meant). He was known for KANU moto and kanu juu na juu zaidi > slogan. > > Burundi Nambwera. Very powerful KANU chairman one time. Many ministers went > to him crying pleading that he does not recommend their suspension. I cant > remember which Minister from Luyialand who went and knelt before him crying > like a baby asking for forgiveness. > > Kimani Wanyoike: School children sang for him but made a mistake of using > the KANU tawala tawala tune and instead of Moi/KANU they said Kimani. The > fellow was removed from cabinet and KANU to political oblivion. Only Moi > could tawala. > > Charles Rubia. Was kicked out of KANU because he led nursery school students > into a demo over demolition of their school. Him and Kimani came back to > life after multi party politics. > > Sharrif Nassir. A coast politician (was it Ahmed) called a bastard (cant > remember Swahili name used) and he cried in public. I think it suggested > that his mother used to get side dishes and that upset him. > > Bahamariz. He was one of the top original FORD officials. Very eloquent. Moi > asked him to return to Yemeni (because he is Arab of Yemen background). He > publicly asked Moi to return to Sudan since he also came from there. > > GG Kariuki and JJ Kamotho were at one time very powerful ministers in Moi > regime. GG would ride in the presidential limo, signs of how close he was to > Moi. Kamotho was hated. They both had nice nicknames. Kamotho was Joyce > Josephine (JJ) and Kariuki (GG) was nickname Grace Gathoni ka Moi. > > So we had a laugh inspite of the oppression. The politicians kept us happy > in certain quarters:) > > > Kuria > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:36 PM, nyakwarotiya < nyakwarotiya@ yahoo.com>wrote: > >> >> >> >Do remember Chotara demanding >> > to know why students at UON were not getting dialogue to eat? They were >> >> complaining that they wanted dialogue and mjinga thought it was a type >> of >> > food. Ati "kwanini hawavatiwi hio ndayarogu wakure?" >> >> This is so funny Rev. >> >> --- In kca_main at yahoogroup s.com >, Kuria-Mwangi >> wrote: >> > >> > Thanks Faiza, >> > You are right. I realize that most folks on these fora were in diapers >> when >> > these folks lived and that >> > I am making up the Chotara, Mutisya and other stuff. Hell No!, these >> > were >> > actual things said and done by the >> > fellows during the Moi Nyayo era and yes, in the 80s, they dominated the >> > airwaves! We feared them and politicians >> > went to them to pay homage. >> > >> > You remember Letich? The one who declared that anybody using the FORD >> salute >> > of two fingers instead of kidole moja ya KANU >> > should get the fingers chopped off? The KANU youths hunting for two >> fingers >> > saluters to chop off the fingers? >> > >> > Dr. Wekesa now in PNU (Waziri) telling Moi and everybody on TV that he >> does >> > not wash his hands after greeting Moi because that would remove the >> > "goodness" of Moi? I have never heard such stupidity. >> > >> > And Kuria Kanyingi telling Moi on national TV that if anybody cut him, >> > instead of blood, only nyayo stuff would flow? Didnt he also tell us >> > that >> he >> > asked God to reduce his days and add them to Moi? >> > >> > Mulu Mutisya had some not very good words for journalists. He told them >> that >> > they were conceived by river beds. Why in hell would one want to have >> > sex >> on >> > a river bed? Would journalists parents be that poor or romantic to do it >> by >> > river bends? May be Kambas have a meaning we dont get on river bends >> > otherwise that threw even the journalists off. >> > >> > Kuria >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Faiza Hassan wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > Kuria many people might think what you are writing here about Kariuki >> > > Chotara and Mulu Mutisya is jokes. This is true and you can write more >> > > about them. These two were powerful in '80s. and they were Mps!! >> > > >> > > >> > > On 4/3/10, Kuria-Mwangi >> wrote: >> > > > Evans, >> > > > You dont seem to have experienced KANU power otherwise you would not >> > > blame >> > > > the man of the cloth >> > > > for lying. And yes, KANU should have been buried long time ago. >> > > > >> > > > One time Orengo and Kirwa got in trouble for calling yours truly >> Kuria >> > > car >> > > > nyingi) in Minnesota during a meeting there and after I presented a >> KANU >> > > > piece which was lazed with toilet humor. Dont tell them that I was >> once >> > > > saved by Kuria Kanyingi's name because my protests them would be >> rendered >> > > > useless. Then your friend Car Nyingi was a lion flying all the >> country >> > > > flashing money. >> > > > >> > > > He has been quiet and may be waiting to run again in Limuru. Huyo >> mkora >> > > > tarnished by otherwise good name. He came close to Kariuki Chotara. >> The >> > > > infamous murderer of both Swahili and English. Do remember Chotara >> > > demanding >> > > > to know why students at UON were not getting dialogue to eat? They >> were >> > > > complaining that they wanted dialogue and mjinga thought it was a >> type of >> > > > food. Ati "kwanini hawavatiwi hio ndayarogu wakure?" On that day he >> made >> > > > that statement, chapati were delivered on the menu on a day students >> were >> > > > supposed to eat ugali. If you ever wondered why chappo was dialogue >> in >> > > > university, welcome to the world of Chotara's swahili and IQ. >> > > > >> > > > Kariuki Chotara was to later complain why Karo Maksi (Karl Marx) >> could >> > > not >> > > > be detained because he was causing confusion at University. He had >> heard >> > > > that Karl Marx ideas were causing confusion and influencing >> > > > students. >> > > That >> > > > is why he wanted Moi to detain Karl Marx. >> > > > >> > > > Chotara was to later address a mammoth rally in Naivasha which was >> > > attended >> > > > by Moi. He declared in his trademark Kikuswahili, "Mtukufu rais, >> taoni >> > > hii >> > > > yote ya nyaivasha haina farking mboys hata moja" . No, he didnt mean >> to >> > > > imply that there were no farking boys in Naivasha but that they were >> no >> > > > parking boys in his town. >> > > > >> > > > I only miss the comical politicians groomed and sustained Moi. From >> > > Chotara >> > > > to Mulu Mutisya. You remember Mulu Mutisya telling Moi about the >> Kamba >> > > women >> > > > entertaining him at Machakos that "hawa wanawake matako yao ni maji >> tu". >> > > He >> > > > was not insulting them but just meant their need (matakwa) was water >> as >> > > > opposed to talking about matako (buttocks) being waterly:). >> > > > >> > > > Bonus question: Which politician told Moi that "wananchi wote >> > > > wanajua >> > > matako >> > > > yako mtukufu Rais na wako nyuma yako?" >> > > > >> > > > Kuria >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Evans MACHERA > ... > >> >> > > >wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> Kuria, >> > > >> >> > > >> You are supposed to be prosecuted for using someone's name ( kuria >> Car >> > > >> Nyingi) to escape the law and bribing the police. >> > > >> >> > > >> KANU Should be de-registered for robbery. Are you ready to testify >> in >> > > >> court! >> > > >> >> > > >> And where did Car Nyingi go! How far ( achieving the objectives) of >> the >> > > >> projects he initiated! >> > > >> >> > > >> HAPPY EASTER. >> > > >> >> > > >> Evans MACHERA. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> --- On *Thu, 4/1/10, Kuria-Mwangi > 40gmail.com >>* >> > > wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> From: Kuria-Mwangi >> >> >> > > >> Subject: Memories of the KANU Juu na juu days >> > > >> To: "Mlalahoi" >> > > >> < mlalahoi at googlegrou ps.com >> 40googlegroups. com > >> > > > >> > > >> Cc: "Kenya Forum" >> > > >> < youngprofessionals_ ke at googlegroups. com > >> >>, >> > > "Africa-Oped" >> > > >> < africa-oped@ yahoogroups. com >> > > >> com>> 40yahoogroups. com >>, "KCA" < >> > > kca_main at yahoogroup s.com > > 40yahoogroups. com >>, >> > > >> kenyaonline@ yahoogroups. com >> > > >> >> 40yahoogroups. com > >> >> > > >> Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 7:33 PM >> > > >> >> > > >> Chief NKunda wrote: >> > > >> Askofu, Ndungata, Papaf and Mil did you carry a Kanu Voters card >> > > >> and >> > > >> Membership lest you be labeled a rebel and a McCarthy hearing >> > > >> commenced to send you to Opiyo. It has come that the orange shirt >> must >> > > >> be won failure will have consequences. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> Of course yes and was a must after being suspended from Campus and >> > > >> facing that local chief. Ours was a mean dark huge fellow who had >> > > >> an >> > > >> appropriate name, Kiiru (dark) wa Gathithiri. He didnt care what >> else >> > > >> you had with you but a KANU membership card was a must. >> > > >> >> > > >> One time I was walking by the Chief's post near Kirigiti Stadium in >> > > >> Kiambu and heard askari Kanga blow the whistle. I kept walking but >> was >> > > >> seeing everybody stand, even akina mama carrying firewood. All of >> > > >> sudden I saw two policemen (admn) run after me. I stopped and >> started >> > > >> to pee by the road side. One held my trousers at the back and told >> me >> > > >> "maliza twende". I asked wapi? He told me "kwa mamako". I felt >> > > >> insulted but kept on asking him what I did. He told me, kwani hiyo >> > > >> filimbi ilikuwa wasukisha blanketi ya mamako? >> > > >> >> > > >> I then knew that i failed to stand attention for the flag lowering >> > > >> ceremony. Inside the station, i told them I didnt know what was >> going >> > > >> and flashed my University ID. That made things worse. Was asked for >> > > >> KANU membership. Thanks God I had it and was in Kiambu taking >> > > >> pictures (was heading to Kiambu high school). Then I lied that I >> > > >> was >> > > >> related to Kuria Kanyingi. That first name saved me. The thug had >> just >> > > >> fallen Dr. Karanja after calling him Nyang'au. I left after parting >> > > >> with kafifty. good money then. >> > > >> >> > > >> Did you know that Kirigiti stands for Cricket? What were africans >> > > >> up >> > > >> to playing Cricket in Kiambu? >> > > >> Next time we will talk about Waitina (of the **insult**/butt) which >> is >> > > >> just a corruption of the name Whitaker. >> > > >> Kuria >> > > >> -- >> > > >> >> > > >> cookie wrote: >> > > >> i had the yellow KANU membership card. it was a must if you wanted >> to >> > > >> eat. i wish i still had it. >> > > >> my dad loathed the fact he had to keep it lest he become outlawed >> > > >> I was too young for any membership >> > > >> http://www.kuria- mwangi.blogspot. com >> > > >> http://www.facebook .com/kjmwangi >> > > >> >> > > >> -- >> > > >> PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE >> > > >> >> > > >> MANY VACANCIES: http://www.myafrica ncareer.net/ >> > > >> >> > > >> FREE CLASSIFIEDS ADS: http://bit.ly/ aZbpFV >> > > >> >> > > >> TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/ cmRFZR >> > > >> >> > > >> You are subscribed to the Google Groups "MlalaHoi" group. >> > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+ >> > > >> unsubscribe@ googlegroups. com >> > > >> >> 40googlegroups. com >< >> >> > > http://mc/compose? to=unsubscribe@ googlegroups. com> >> > > >> > > >> For more options, visit this group at >> > > >> http://groups. google.com/ group/mlalahoi? hl=en >> > > >> >> > > >> To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> -- >> > > >> PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE >> > > >> >> > > >> MANY VACANCIES: http://www.myafrica ncareer.net/ >> > > >> >> > > >> FREE CLASSIFIEDS ADS: http://bit.ly/ aZbpFV >> > > >> >> > > >> TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/ cmRFZR >> > > >> >> > > >> You are subscribed to the Google Groups "MlalaHoi" group. >> > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, Email >> > > >> mlalahoi+unsubscrib e at googlegroups. com > >> > >> > > < mlalahoi%2Bunsubscr ibe at googlegroups .com > >> > >> >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> For more options, visit this group at >> > > >> http://groups. google.com/ group/mlalahoi? hl=en >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > http://www.kuria- mwangi.blogspot. com >> > > > http://www.facebook .com/kjmwangi >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > http://www.kuria- mwangi.blogspot. com >> > http://www.facebook .com/kjmwangi >> > >> >> >> > > > > -- > http://www.kuria- mwangi.blogspot. com > http://www.facebook .com/kjmwangi > -- http://www.kuria- mwangi.blogspot. com http://www.facebook .com/kjmwangi -- http://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.com http://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi -- MANY VACANCIES: http://bit.ly/bROydQ TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE -- MANY VACANCIES: http://bit.ly/bROydQ TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE -- http://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.com http://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (3) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Africa-oped welcomes opinions & analysis on African issues. 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URL: From Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com Mon Apr 5 11:57:56 2010 From: Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com (Dickens Odhiambo) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:57:56 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] NEWS: -Michuki, Kingi reject draft law Message-ID: Michuki, Kingi reject draft law KENYA CABINET minister has dismissed the proposed constitution as a foreign document as cracks begun to emerge within the Cabinet and Church over some provisions in the proposed draft constitution. By Alfred Kyalo CABINET minister has dismissed the proposed constitution as a foreign document as cracks begun to emerge within the Cabinet and Church over some provisions in the proposed draft constitution. Cabinet Ministers John Michuki (Environment) and Amason Kingi (East African Community) became the first high-ranking government officials to publicly voice their opposition to the provisions of the draft, with the former dismissing it as a foreign document. This came as the Anglican Church broke ranks with other Christian denominations that have opposed the draft. Retired Presbyterian Church of East Africa (PCEA) Moderator Rev Timothy Njoya also contradicted his church colleagues?EUR(tm) opposition to the draft and supported it. Njoya joined civil society groups in criticizing the Church's hard-line position and faulted its threat to mobilize Kenyans to reject it. If the church campaigns for a "No" vote and fail to garner support among Kenyans that will be the end of its responsibility for the Kenyan society. It will have caused its own abortion, the outspoken cleric said. However, the Catholic Church remained adamant that the proposed draft contains dangerous provisions especially the clause that it maintained legalizes abortion. On the issue of abortion, there is nothing to discus. Nobody should be allowed to kill, said the Church's head in Kenya, John Cardinal Njue when he presided over Easter Sunday mass at Holy Family Basilica in Nairobi. Njue dismissed suggestions by several leaders among them President Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga that the draft be passed as it is and then amendments be made later. He likened that to a doctor offering wrong prescription to a patient and then waiting to see the effects later. Environment Minister John Michuki echoed the Cardinal's sentiments and rubbished the draft?EUR(tm)s provisions. Michuki said he would join church leaders in campaigning against the rejection of the draft, which he said does not reflect the wishes of majority of Kenyans who are Christians and had called for amendment of some clauses. The Minister, who boycotted Thursday's House proceedings when the proposed constitution was approved, noted that the draft does not respect the sanctity of life particularly on the controversial abortion clause. Addressing mourners during a burial ceremony at Gakira in his Kangema constituency on Saturday, Michuki described the draft as a foreign document and urged Kenyans to reject it at the referendum. His sentiments, however, were in stark contrast to his boss, President Kibaki who declared his full support for the draft and called for tolerance among Kenyans as they debate the proposed law. The Head of State who joined other worshipers during Easter Sunday mass at Consolata Shrine in Westlands, Nairobi, said: Let us respect each others' opinion and be tolerant of one another as we approach the referendum where the sovereign will of the people will be exercised. East Africa Community Minister Amason Kingi also led other Coast MPs in opposing the draft over its failure to address the issue of devolution conclusively especially by rejecting the establishment of regional governments. However, lobby groups under the Katiba Sasa Campaign warned church leaders against derailing Kenya's quest to have a new constitution in place. Addressing the press in Nairobi, the group said the search for a new constitutional order was necessary to guarantee pace and stability in the country as recognized under Agenda Four of the national reconciliation Act warning that the church's campaign against the draft could set the stage for future violence far worse than that of post 2007 elections. In short, the Church will be calling for a scaled up post-election violence in 2012; we must all avoid this eventuality said Rev Njoya who read the group?EUR(tm)s statement. The activists raised fears that the Church could be manipulated by anti-reforms elements within the political class to scuttle the review process noting that such politicians were only targeting the next general election. If the designs of this narrow minded group of politicians prevail, we shall have created opportunity for more bloodletting. Kenyans have shed enough blood! they added. On Saturday, Anglican Archbishop Eliud Wabukala warned other church leaders against being misused by opponents of reforms by campaigning for the rejection of the draft. Another Anglican Bishop Francis Mwai Abiero of Maseno South Diocese also backed Wabukala's support for the proposed constitution. Speaking in Kisumu, Abiero said those opposed to the draft were applying double standards since whatever they are opposed to, is contained in the current constitution. The Coast MPs who spoke in Malindi when they consoled families who lost relatives during last week's tragic eviction in the area said they had preferred to have a constitution with regional governments headed by a governor elected directly by the people. For 46 years now the Coast has been crying for proper devolution and because we are a minority we have failed to achieve this objective so this time we have to express our views freely, Kingi said. Legislators who accompanied him included area MP Gideon Mung?EUR(tm)aro, Calistus Mwatela (Mwatate), Thomas Mwadeghu (Wundanyi), Dan Mwazo (Voi), Hassan Joho (Kisauni), and nominated MPs Mohammed Dor and Shakila Abdallah. Kingi, however, said ministers who oppose the draft should not be victimized, as was the case after the defeat of the 2005 referendum where those allied to Prime Minister Raila Odinga were fired from the cabinet for opposing the Wako draft. Cardinal Njue also lashed out at MPs for failing to make the necessary amendments to the draft during last week's debate in Parliament. Michuki claimed that foreigners, non-governmental organization and political activist were the ones behind the drafting and doctoring of the document to suit the interest of their foreign masters. Posted on 2010-04-05 12:09:55 BST From aboge001 at umn.edu Mon Apr 5 13:00:01 2010 From: aboge001 at umn.edu (aboge001) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:00:01 -0500 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: IS KENYA A MUSLIM STATE??? In-Reply-To: <28480.81016.qm@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <28480.81016.qm@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BBA1711.5000405@umn.edu> People are phobic for nothing about Kadhi courts. This is hardly "sharia law" as done in the parts of the middle east Muslim Asia or Nigeria. The constitution is clear that in conflict between religious laws and the state, the state law prevails. You dont need a law to see the blatant bias that the larger Christian community has directed towards our Muslim countrymen. If you have doubts, just recently Christian youth joined the police in beating up Muslim youth who had organized a simple demo against the government! > I'm with you 100% Daktari, this is not going to stand and we need > to ask all our NON-MUSLIM fellow Kenyans to simply vote this thing > down; our real power is always at the BALLOT BOX and we have the > numbers, let's not under-estimate that. Equal rights and access to > everyone or none at all, this draft, as you properly note, makes > *_Kenya effectively a MUSLIM state_*, _*Islam*_ is the_* ONLY*_ > religion mentioned and recognized in the document, it is the only one > whose laws are interpretted and enforced by taxpayer funded courts, so > as a NON-MUSLIM, I just don't see how I can vote for a document that > is so blatantly discriminatory, it just doesn't make sense. Now there > are some who argue that this thing has been around for so long and to > them I say, hasn't the rest of the constitution been around? Did we > get a chance to vote for it at the beginning? And if that is the case, > what difference does it make one way or the other now for Christians > to vote for something does completely ignores their views on such a > sacrosanct subject, I say _*HELL NO!*_ This this MUST be rejected, > let's get it right! > > > --- On *Sat, 4/3/10, Paul Nyandoto //* wrote: > > > From: Paul Nyandoto > Subject: IS KENYA A MUSLIM STATE??? > To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 3:04 AM > > Kenyans, > > We can`t wait to see suffering stopped, injustice corrected, and > prosperity begun. Christians too have much to learn about Jesus > death and ressurrection. We must not let our personal desires > catch us up and prevent us from seeing the truth. Why should > Kadhi`s courts or sheria law be included in our constitution again > almost 47 years down the line from independence?. > Christians have also to remember that following Christ involves > hardships. It may include suffering and even death. Christians are > right to be upset about kadhi courts in the Kenyan constitution > especially when the parliament passes kadhi courts just on the eve > of easter holiday. > Easter holiday is celebrated by all Christians around the world: > Jesus was resurrected from the dead on the third day after his > cruxifixion. Why can`t Kenya learn from Nigeria or Somalia where > kadhi courts are the order of the day, or Sudan, for heavenly sake > why is Sudan dividing now or why is Nigeria not stable almost 50 > years after independence. > > To the coastal people who wanted a devolution of government, > majimbo and were to create local governments are you now silent > because they have included Kadhi courts in the constitution or > what?. Where is the 3 tier of government or creation of local > government for the people disappeared to?. I thought that these > guys were serious that they wanted to manage their local > resources to get rid of poverty. Kenyans are not seeing a head > very clearly. A new constitution is good just like any new clothes > or shoes bought to a kid or a person who lacked them, but after > sometimes he will see the bad sides or see if the shoes are really > suitable for long distance walk or leaving wounds on the leg every > time he uses them?. Kenyans have also elected a group of goons as > Mps, they have mouths like goose but can not decide on anything > good for the country: Or is this a trick for the new constitution > to be rejected and people remain with the present one?. > > Passing the constitution was a great thing, but passing Kadhi > courts in a country dominated by christians is just an abuse to > our rights, and our self determination. I can not believe that the > courts which were introduced by sultan of Zanziber will still > follow us after losing even people Like Dedan Kimathi, who died > for our freedom so that africans can have their country back and > introduce self determination and self rule. Why even bother sueing > the British government over Mau mau when we still leave our people > to be governed by sultan`s courts. Do Kenyans want to say that > colonialism by the British was more worse than colonialism by > Arabs and slavery etc. So let Kenyans be still under kadhi influences. > > What type of a country Kenya will be if all religions starts to > demand a right of their rituals in the constitution?. And by the > way what is special about kadhi Courts, what do they offer muslims > which the ordinary courts do not offer?: Why are these questions > constantly being ignored?. > > Paul Nyandoto > > -- > MANY VACANCIES: http://bit.ly/bROydQ > > TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR > > To unsubscribe from this group, Email > mlalahoi+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com > > > PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour > by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret > By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By > Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's > All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By > Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, > Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast > Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French > In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, > Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning > Italian, In-Flight Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning > Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 > 663 208 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Jambo mailing list > Jambo at publiceyesite.org > http://publiceyesite.org/mailman/listinfo/jambo_publiceyesite.org > From Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com Mon Apr 5 13:11:34 2010 From: Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com (Dickens Odhiambo) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:11:34 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] Political dynasty :- Fidel Castro Odinga 2012 ! Message-ID: Fidel 2012! Why not? Is his dream tied to Omondi Bunde's. We'll see. http://www.ntv.co.ke/News/Political%20dynasty/-/471778/892730/-/14uhbl3z/-/i ndex.html Political dynasty... The country's political dynasty trend does not appear to be in any hurry to go away. This time it is Prime Minister Raila Odinga's son who has entered the political ring. He joins the long list of politicians who are riding on their fathers' backs. Fidel announced his intention to run for a parliamentary seat in Nairobi come 2012 at a function he presided over in Mombasa. WORD IS: Fidel, Prime Minister Raila Odinga's son, has his eyes set on politics. He announced his intention to run for a parliamentary seat in Nairobi come 2012 at a function he presided over in Mombasa. Bernard Abwoga fellas u make me cry. look at ruto, kuttuny, ababu, murungaru etc are these sons of rich burgers? look at what they ve done, are they not filthy rich and most in their 1st term? so being from a poor background does not make 1 a better leader, u will just be in a hurry of enriching uaself instead of serving us poor electorate! 10 hours ago Betty Akinyi Mosomi, its true that hese guys up there are just connecting the ropr from their fathers and adding salts to the wounds that had been caused,they can not understand what we are feeling. Abwoga, its really a pity that lots like Ruto esp and his friends can't look bac and recall what they went through.Its true that they just went there for grabs.We poor voters should take tiem and get to know who to give what post.Lets make good use of this constitution. 2 hours ago From mail at blackhistoryclub.ning.com Mon Apr 5 14:36:16 2010 From: mail at blackhistoryclub.ning.com (Lily Simpson) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:36:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Jambo] What Black America Can Learn from Recent Chinese History Message-ID: <4872103.603626131270492576504.JavaMail.xncore@z101bb2.ningops.com> Lily Simpson has sent you a message on Black History Club To reply to this message, click here: http://blackhistoryclub.ning.com/profiles/message/listInbox?xg_source=msg_mes_private Subject: What Black America Can Learn from Recent Chinese History "Donald, you mentioned that we often vote for Democrats who have motives against our interest and that we should vote for republicans, name a republican we should have voted for or who we should vote for who has motives for our interest. What have the republicans done for blacks as a whole? Even black republicans. You also said we should get behind worthy republicans, so are you saying that even if a democratic candidate is ?worthy? -your word not mine- we shouldn?t vote for that person? Give me some examples of what would make a politician worthy of my vote I agree about the unity of our people. We also need to control our own resources. Peace and Blessings > Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 03:31:45 +0000 > From: Donald E. Scoggins > To: R. James Taylor, Lily Simpson, Alan Jay Holman Sr, Alex Thomas, Alexis Dobbins, Alonzo Crawford, Arima, Ashipa_Roy, Audrey Johnson, Barbara A Jackson, Barbra Wright, BlackShan, Bobby Wimberly, Bokeba Trice, Bomani Kyasa, Brenda A White, C .EZiokwu washin..., C. Richard Gillc..., CHEF JEFF BONNER, Caleb Page, Carline, Carole Perry, Charles E. Siler, Chuck Moore, Cline Clark, Clyde Knox, Corey Washington, Daniel Watkins, Darla Johnson, Darnell Alanda Mo..., David Drozen, Deborah A. 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Col..., William Reed, anne bouie, arthur kennedy, bobby white, clcrss, dan, efia, erie l adams, errol moncriffe, hfinch, jay tee, john c. mcghee, kehinde Igbinado..., kenneth d hooks, leon peacock, mahasine hassan, maria bethel, maria gloria ortiz, michael roberts, michelle, s e anderson, shirley, teresa leslie can..., theodore walter w..., willique > > Another way at phasing the question is: What can all ethnic groups learn from the experience of blacks? If our people were more unified we could influence this country's politics for many, many years. > > Very quietly Asians and Hispanics are gaining influence within both the Democratic Party and Republican Party. Considering the changing demographics of this nation obviously its becoming majority minority. > > With blacks as the dominate blood line we could practically control everything which occurs. Other minority groups look to the black experience as what not to do. Such as leverage their vote not " To reply to this message, click here: http://blackhistoryclub.ning.com/profiles/message/listInbox?xg_source=msg_mes_private -- To control which emails you receive on Black History Club, go to: http://blackhistoryclub.ning.com/?xgo=jLiy5/TvqSENLBsHa1HvU5FzeMF2ojSg5g50wbCep0zFdr-hh-ekgA&xg_source=msg_mes_private From mail at blackhistoryclub.ning.com Tue Apr 6 01:43:11 2010 From: mail at blackhistoryclub.ning.com (Donald E. Scoggins) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 05:43:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Jambo] What Black America Can Learn from Recent Chinese History Message-ID: <3439105.637981921270532591146.JavaMail.xncore@z100292.ningops.com> Donald E. Scoggins has sent you a message on Black History Club To reply to this message, click here: http://blackhistoryclub.ning.com/profiles/message/listInbox?xg_source=msg_mes_private Subject: What Black America Can Learn from Recent Chinese History "Lily - Your comments are all well taken and much of which I can agree. Sorry I did not sufficiently make myself understood. My thoughts essentially are blacks should not always unilaterally vote Democrat. At times there are Republicans especially at the local level blacks should be able to support. In the last presidential election I got major flak from my local party because I voted for Barack Obama. I could list several national Republicans worthy of my support though viewed as liberal/moderate, regarded as heresy by many folks. Myself fiscally conservative and socially basically libertarian, I do not think government can or should tell people how to conduct their lives involving very personal and sensitive matters. And, particularly if the issue at hand does not effect others. In terms of Black Republicans if more of us become local elected officials we could develop records and standing. We could show our worth and thereby build foundations for higher office statewide and national office. Worthy means just that. If the individual candidate happens to be a Democrat go right ahead and support that person. However, do not always assume the black Republican is an Uncle Tom or otherwise not protective of the black community's interest. I do not have time to offer many examples of excellent black GOP candidates. However, in Florida there is Allen West, retired Lt. Colonel and Iraq war veteran seeking to become a U.S. Congressman. Also seeking a congressional seat in Colorado is Ryan Frazier, an experienced elected official. What has happened is that the black community has bought into the hype black Republicans are somehow evil. All this plays into the hands of folks fearful of our community coming together. Many (not all, not all) whites in the GOP do not support our black candidates as to deny us standing. Afraid of us becoming too influential in the party they would rather support the black Democrat. Its all a long story though the powers to be want us to stay on the Democrat plantation than gain a foothold within their ranks. Although demographically they are becoming forced to rethink that notion. Asians and especially Latinos are strategically planning ahead for the time they are the majority. They are leveraging their votes within both parties having learned from us not to put all their eggs into one basket. If only from a business standpoint which is politics we should want representation at the seat of power whichever party has control of congress and the White House. Don! www.blackgop.ning.com > Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:35:11 +0000 > From: Lily Simpson > To: Donald E. Scoggins, R. James Taylor, Alan Jay Holman Sr, Alex Thomas, Alexis Dobbins, Alonzo Crawford, Arima, Ashipa_Roy, Audrey Johnson, Barbara A Jackson, Barbra Wright, BlackShan, Bobby Wimberly, Bokeba Trice, Bomani Kyasa, Brenda A White, C .EZiokwu washin..., C. Richard Gillc..., CHEF JEFF BONNER, Caleb Page, Carline, Carole Perry, Charles E. Siler, Chuck Moore, Cline Clark, Clyde Knox, Corey Washington, Daniel Watkins, Darla Johnson, Darnell Alanda Mo..., David Drozen, Deborah A. Parker, Derrick Hayes, Don Hammond (Eric..., Donald Thomas, Drew Williams, Earth O. Jallow, Elmira Gainey, Emmanuel of Seein..., Empress Ziona Yam..., Erika X, Ernest L Evans, Ernest O. Killebr..., Eugene Franklin, Eugene Franklin, Eula Tolliver, Ezili Dant?, Ezrah Aharone, Felicia Phillips, Franklin Jones ak..., Free1mind, Gail R. Brooks, Garnetta Rosalyn, Glenn E. Bell, Hafeeza B Majeed, Helen, Helen Butler, Ida Beth Malloy, Irving C. Jones, Isz Player, Ivory Ann Black II, JESSE L. SMITH, James Shabaka, Jewel Boswell Hud..., Jimmie W. Jones-B..., JoAnn Jordan, John Fleming, Joseph D. Lewis, Judy Alsobrooks M..., Juneteenth Americ..., Kalamu ya Salaam, Keith C. Holmes, Kevin C. McCormack, Kevin h, KevinAhern, Kurt Walker, Kwanisai Mafa, Lady Soul, Larrai" To reply to this message, click here: http://blackhistoryclub.ning.com/profiles/message/listInbox?xg_source=msg_mes_private -- To control which emails you receive on Black History Club, go to: http://blackhistoryclub.ning.com/?xgo=ipHcvpdnnLINLBsHa1HvU1uLkHHtTcCYE8dRnbAUYs3Fdr-hh-ekgA&xg_source=msg_mes_private From komarockswatch at yahoo.com Mon Apr 5 06:38:35 2010 From: komarockswatch at yahoo.com (odhiambo okecth) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA Message-ID: <257072.46043.qm@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 4/5/10, odhiambo okecth wrote: From: odhiambo okecth Subject: Re: [ProgressiveMinds] PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA To: "Okiya Omtatah" , ProgressiveMinds at yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 3:18 AM Happy Easter Migosi Okiya and Team. I have read the content of your Press Statement and as much as I do not agree with what you have stated, I will not demonize your right to say it. I will defend your rights to saying what you are saying to the hilt. The only area I have problems with is the use of words. Words can be so confusing and antagonizing. I bet you should have the right to saying what you are saying without antagonizing others who are of the contrary opinion. If I believe that it is time to enact a new constitution despite the existence of the Kadhi's Court in the proposal, it does not mean that I have a 'prejudiced, speculative, one-dimensional and narrow analysis of the Church?s position'. I could as well be very right in my analysis and you be the one who is wrong. Church leaders represent a very important constituency. True, and I agree with you. But did you see how the same Church leaders who represent a very important constituency behave in 2005, and again in 2007? What are the indications that they have changed? The Reverend Cannon Peter Karanja went ahead and apologized for the sins of omission from the church but soon, he was back on the airwaves preaching hatred and disharmony; calling some people moribund and some, ineffective. A Man of God indeed! To many of us Christians, we are on our own, and the Church leaders have taken to serving their own interests and not that of Christ who died to save all mankind from sin. I for one will not listen to them. They talk not for Christ and they talk not for me. They talk for themselves and their interests. But if they can change and truly start preaching the ideals of Peace, National Healing and Reconciliation, I will be the first to be in tow. But as for now, they speak not for me, and I believe, they speak not for many Kenyans. And this we will confirm soon when Kenyans will troop to the ballot to vote for the Proposed Constitution at the Referendum. If I was one of them, I would not have dared to take this stand that confronts the intelligence of Kenyans. If you go to church, you never hear any inspiring messages of hope, reconcilaition, peace and harmony. You are left to wonder, where did inspirational peachers go to? Are these the times that Christ talked about; that many will come and preach in my name? False Prophets? Kenya belongs to all of us; Christians, Atheists, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and all. As we drive our country forward, I would appreciate initiatives that will tend to unite us some more as one people. I would appreciate if we all preached unity of our people, where Muslims do not call me an Infidel just simply on account of my being a none Muslim; where Christians join hands to embrace Muslims and not fight the issue of Kadhi's Court which is very irrelevant to our lives; where Hindus embrace all other races and live with them and not hive off zones exclussively for themselves. I would appreciate Press Statements clothed in words that do not impute improper motives on those with opposing views. We are all very intelligent. Let us correct any mistakes by acknowledging that the opposing view is as informed as the proposing view. Odhiambo T Oketch,CEO KCDN Nairobi,Tel; 0724 365 557,Email; komarockswatch at yahoo.comBlog; http://kcdnkomarockswatch.blogspot.comBlog group; friendsofkcdn at yahoogroups.com --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Okiya Omtatah Okoiti wrote: From: Okiya Omtatah Okoiti Subject: [ProgressiveMinds] PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA To: "Okiya Omtatah" Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 2:35 AM ? PRESS STATEMENT Church leaders should emulate God who does not destroy the righteous along with the wicked ? We acknowledge that today?s Kenya, and the one anticipated in the Proposed Constitution of Kenya, is not a secular State but a religiously neutral one. The Kenyan State is supposed to treat all religions as equals; never to favour or be hostile to any religious beliefs. ? Therefore, we call upon all those condemning church leaders for raising fundamental questions about the Proposed Constitution of Kenya to immediately stop crossing the legitimate lines of criticism. Rambling onto the slippery surface of irrational exuberance is largely indistinguishable from open hostility to the Church. Their prejudiced, speculative, one-dimensional and narrow analysis of the Church?s position is purposefully based on wilful distortions of the issues at hand. ? Church leaders represent an important constituency and the issues they are raising are fundamental. To ask Christians to make a choice between the Church and the draft constitution is to ask them to make a false choice. There is no choice between the draft constitution and the church since the constitution of the Republic belongs equally to all Kenyans, irrespective of their race, creed, ethnicity, class, station or status. ? >From the days of the apostles, church leaders have the unique authority passing on the faith and applying the teaching of Christ to the circumstances of the day. They have a responsibility to foster among the faithful those actions that promote holiness and are in accord with the Gospel, as well as a duty to condemn those actions which are incompatible with their teaching. ? And because it belongs to the Church always and everywhere to announce moral principles, even about the social order, and to render judgment concerning any human affairs insofar as the fundamental rights of the person or the salvation of souls requires it, church leaders have both a right and a duty to guide their flock. ? We also condemn all those politicians and commentators who have tried to rubbish the position of the Church, as untenable, arguing that if they reject the proposed constitution we will still go back to the current one which has Kadhis courts in them. ? The Kadhi?s Courts are in the current constitution as a historical mistake, waiting to be corrected. They are not a good. But if they go into the new constitution their status changes fundamentally because they will be there by the universal supreme mandate of the sovereign Kenyan people. Hence, their substance will change from illegitimate to legitimate even though their form as courts subordinate to the High Court will remain. That is why the Church would rather they remain as a mistake than that they be elevated to the sovereign wish of the Kenya people. ? We should recognize that the Committee of Experts introduced, or failed to ferret out, many policy issues that belong to the legislative not to the constitutive process. The Constitution is supposed to be about broad principles. It was wrong to use the Constitution to legislate on abortion, on the Kadhis courts, on military rights, and on similar policy issues. All policy issues belong to Parliamentary legislation. Putting them in the Constitution has put us in a situation where a largely very good document is threatened with justified rejection. ? ? But is rejection the way to resolve this dilemma where a document that is overwhelmingly good is contaminated by evil? We call upon church leaders to reconsider their decision to reject the document because of the few mistakes it contains. Scripture has a very clear way forward. God is always patient and caring in the face of evil. Perfect is never the enemy of good. God does not destroy the good along with evil. He engages strategically. God never destroys the good even as he fights evil. God is a smart fighter; he never causes collateral damage. Otherwise, He would have destroyed the world because of the sin of humankind that stinks to high heaven. But because of the little good that there is, His Divine Mercy spares us all, giving us a chance to repent and make good our iniquities. ? In Genesis 18:16-33 Abraham pleads with God not to destroy the city of Sodom for the sake of the few good people there. Abraham asks God: ?Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?? And God agrees to spare the whole city for the sake initially of 50 righteous then 45, 40, 30, 20, and, finally the Lord said: ?I will not destroy it for the sake of ten.? Eventually God saves righteous Lot and his family before He destroys Sodom . ? The main theme of the Gospel according to St. Matthew is division and judgment. Evil people are separated and destroyed as the holy are saved. In the parable of Wheat and weeds (Matthew 13:24?30) Jesus teaches through a parable, about a man who sowed good seed in his field, but while people slept, his enemy came and sowed weeds also among the wheat, and went away. But when the blade sprang up and brought forth fruit, then the weed appeared also. The servants wanted to go and pull them up but the master refused, saying: 'because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.' " ? Instead of rejecting the Proposed Constitution of Kenya, church leaders should reject verbal assurances and demand that President Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga lead MPs into signing a post-referendum memorandum of understanding that immediately the new constitution is ratified they will embark on amendments to remove all offending clauses. For this will be a sure way of giving Kenyans a new constitution but not the simple way of dismissing the church concerns as dismal and parochial. ? Signed: Neto Agostinho - 0722-467-365??????????? ?????????????????? ????????? Date: Monday, April 5, 2010 National Convener, Kenyans for Justice and Development __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (2) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group MARKETPLACE Do More for Dogs Group. Connect with other dog owners who do more. Welcome to Mom Connection! Share stories, news and more with moms like you. 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URL: From imo4492 at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 08:04:42 2010 From: imo4492 at gmail.com (Ogendi) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:34:42 +0930 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Vs: RE: KADHI COURTS AND ISLAM ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS In-Reply-To: <4BB9ACF00200004F00028AC4@vennamo.phks.fi> References: <4BB8A73B0200004F00028A85@vennamo.phks.fi> <000901cad432$510c89f0$f3259dd0$@com> <4BB9ACF00200004F00028AC4@vennamo.phks.fi> Message-ID: Nd Paul We can differ or disagree without calling one another ugly names. Having said that I want to hasten and ad this: 1.If we reject this draft because it contains provision for Kadhi's Courts we go back to the old constitution which contains provision for Kadhi's Courts. 2. I've been a practising Christian for decades and the Kadhi's Courts have never affected me, my life or the practise of my Chriastian faith in any way. Yet our current constitution has provision for Kadhi's Court. Consequently, I see no reason why some Kenyans are getting so much worked up over this issue. The members of the Clergy who have now found their tongues and are now shouting at the top of their voices must first tell us how they lost their tongues when Kenyans savagely attacked fellow Kenyans with all manner of crude weapons. Better an imperfect new constitution than the current one. Ogendi On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Paul Nyandoto wrote: > Maina, > > What you have not known upto today is that it is man who wrote the Koran > and the Bible, NOT GOD. Please let that sink into your hard thick ignorant > skull of yours. God did not write the Koran nor the Bible. Ask even your > fellow muslims they will tell you so. So please keep on sleeping we are > already in 2010 not the dark ages where we were told to accept things > blindly without asking why?, even if you are being taken to the slaughter > chamber. I just do not know where you got that knowledge about koran. The > new constitution should not contain the kadhi courts we want all religious > rituals to be the same infront of the Kenyan laws PERIOD!!! > > Have a nice day, one day you will wake up; I hope it will be not too > late. By the way who cheated you that GOD wrote the koran?. > > Paul Nyandoto > > >>> "maina ndiritu" 4/4/2010 9:06 >>> > I could be mistaken but the sultanate of Zanzibar ended over a hundred and > fifty years ago , so this service to the sultan is unknown to me unless of > course I am unaware of the date I live in , secondly the Khadhi courts > have > a direct representation in the Quran and unless the Quran serves the > Sultanate of Zanzibar , your insinuations here are at most ridiculous and > maliciously misrepresented . > Direct extension of Kenyan occupation by the sultan of Zanzibar ? is this > man dead or not ? or perhaps ndugu Mrisho Kikwete is the said sultan ? has > there been a Zanzibari cessation from the mainland ? , > Honestly ... you have nothing to say , no knowledge of the subject you > approach , as a matter of fact , this is a chaotic pile of rubbish > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com [mailto:mlalahoi at googlegroups.com] On > Behalf > Of Paul Nyandoto > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:51 PM > To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Subject: KADHI COURTS AND ISLAM ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS > > Dear Kenyans, > > I have got or received some very low life explanation about Kadhi courts. > It > is even unfortunate that some of those explanation do come even from real > Islamic believers who end up calling us ignorant of the kadhi courts. > > Kadhi courts exist in Kenya because sultan of zanzibar introduced them to > the 10 km strip land along the coastal area of kenya as away of > administration, just like the British also did divide and rule tactics.. > Those land were under Sultan of zanzibar who was by then ruling and his > governmental system wanted to hold those lands for ever. The sultan never > paid or never bought those lands from the poor africans who were living in > those areas, he just took them and the ones who resisted were sold to > america as slaves. Kadhi courts and Islam as a religion are two > completely > different things. Kadhi courts do serve man and the sultan, NOT GOD. ISLAM > as a religion serves God just as any other religion we see in kenya except > atheism. > > I just do not see why I should be called anti islam or against muslims if I > do not want Kadhi courts in our constitution. To me kadhi courts are a > direct extension of kenyan occupation by the sultan of zanzibar. Those > courts hide a lot of child abuses in families, hide a lot of slavery on > women, men end up exploiting women under those courts. Inheritance of > wealth > by females become almost imposible on those courts, go to Nigeria or sudan > and see what I am talking about. The kadhi courts allow direct polygamist > and women slavery which any normal brain thinking creature should not > accept. Kenya as a state do have already courts so why the duplicate. What > do those courts give which kenyan government courts are not giving. We want > all Kenyans to be equal under tha country`s law. > > So please fellow muslim brothers and some who support you blindly when > informing us about Kadhi courts do not fool us around as you have been > doing. Those courts serve man and the Sultan ( King), while islam serves > GOD > the almighty. Doing away with those kadhi courts in the constitution will > not change your faith even by an inch. 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URL: From midasmedia.kenya at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 08:28:56 2010 From: midasmedia.kenya at gmail.com (gad) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] 5 THING I WOULD NOT LIKE YOU TO KNOW ABOUT! Message-ID: <19fd001d-dc5a-4c28-af40-eb218fd83c67@z11g2000yqz.googlegroups.com> A common mistake small businesses is to confuse marketing strategies with ad campaigns. A marketing strategy is an approach for boosting your products and services. An ad campaign, on the other hand, is the means by which your marketing strategy is accomplished. It is important to understand what your strategy is trying to achieve. 1.Boost Consumer Confidence Consumers are fickle lot and are frequently hesitant to buy a product they know little about. If your business or products are new to the area, you could create a marketing campaign that emphasizes the quality and value of your products. The resulting boost in consumer confidence will likely translate into more action at the cash register. 2.Create Awareness Your marketing strategy could be to create buzz by blanketing the radio-stations, newspapers, buses(like Royco on Citi Hoppa) and other advertising mediums with your name, logo, and products. Increased awareness will definitely bring more people into your store, but it also costs money, so you should be prepared to increase your advertising budget to pull it off. 3.Leverage Emotions No matter what they say, the buying decision is emotional for many customers. Large companies spend millions of shillings playing on their customers' emotions and what works for them, can work for you, too. The key is to create a campaign that makes consumers feel themselves, your company, and the decision to buy your products. 4.Overcome Objections A well-crafted marketing campaign can work toward overcoming your customers' buying obstacles before they walk in the door. A marketing strategy that emphasizes warranties, testimonials, endorsements, and other positive reinforcement devices can not only make the buying decision easier for existing customers, but also attract new customers who hadn't previously considered buying from your business. 5.Set a Deadline Why do so many ads emphasize the date the sale ends? Because people respond to deadlines. Marketing strategies designed around the idea of limited supplies, temporary price reductions, or other mechanisms that create a sense of urgency can provide a quick influx of customers and can potentially jumpstart a business suffering from a diminished customer base. -- Questions about marketing? Comments on this newsletter? 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From litshooz at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 09:35:17 2010 From: litshooz at gmail.com (maina ndiritu) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:35:17 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] CAP. 66 Of the Constitution of Kenya Message-ID: <000001cad4c4$dc89d720$959d8560$@com> 66. (1) There shall be a Chief Kadhi and such number, not being less than three, of other Kadhi's as may be prescribed by or under an Act of Parliament. (2) A person shall not be qualified to be appointed to hold or act in the office of Kadhi unless - (a) he professes the Muslim religion; and (b) he possesses such knowledge of the Muslim law applicable to any sect or sects of Muslims as qualifies him, in the opinion of the Judicial Service Commission, to hold a Kadhi's court. (3) Without prejudice to section 65 (1), there shall be such subordinate courts held by Kadhi's as Parliament may establish and each Kadhi's court shall, subject to this Constitution, have such jurisdiction and powers as may be conferred on it by any law. (4) The Chief Kadhi and the other Kadhi's, or the Chief Kadhi and such of the other Kadhi's (not being less than three in number) as may be prescribed by or under an Act of Parliament, shall each be empowered to hold a Kadhi's court having jurisdiction within the former Protectorate or within such part of the former Protectorate as may be so prescribed: Provided that no part of the former Protectorate shall be outside the jurisdiction of some Kadhi's court. (5) The jurisdiction of a Kadhi's court shall extend to the determination of questions of Muslim law relating to personal status, marriage, divorce or inheritance in proceedings in which all the parties profess the Muslim religion. 67. (1) Where a question as to the interpretation of this Constitution arises in proceedings in a subordinate court and the court is of the opinion that the question involves a substantial question of law, the court may, and shall if a party to the proceedings so requests, refer the question to the High Court. CHAPTER V PROTECTION OF FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS OF THE INDIVIDUAL 70. Whereas every person in Kenya is entitled to the fundamental rights and freedoms of the individual, that is to say, the right, whatever his race, tribe, place of origin or residence or other local connexion, political opinions, colour, creed or sex, but subject to respect for the rights and freedoms of others and for the public interest, to each and all of the following, namely - (a) life, liberty, security of the person and the protection of the law; (b) freedom of conscience, of expression and of assembly and association; and (c) protection for the privacy of his home and other property and from deprivation of property without compensation, the provisions of this Chapter shall have effect for the purpose of affording protection to those rights and freedoms subject to such limitations of that protection as are contained in those provisions, being limitations designed to ensure that the enjoyment of those rights and freedoms by any individual does not prejudice the rights and freedoms of others or the public interest. 78. (1) Except with his own consent, no person shall be hindered in the enjoyment of his freedom of conscience, and for the purposes of this section that freedom includes freedom of thought and of religion, freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others, and both in public and in private, to manifest and propagate his religion or belief in worship, teaching, practice and observance. (2) Every religious community shall be entitled, at its own expense, to establish and maintain places of education and to manage a place of education which it wholly maintains; and no such community shall be prevented from providing religious instruction for persons of that community in the course of any education provided at a place of education which it wholly maintains or in the course of any education which it otherwise provides. (3) Except with his own consent (or, if he is a minor, the consent of his guardian), no person attending a place of education shall be required to receive religious instruction or to take part in or attend a religious ceremony or observance if that instruction, ceremony or observance relates to a religion other than his own. (4) No person shall be compelled to take an oath which is contrary to his religion or belief or to take an oath in a manner which is contrary to his religion or belief. (5) Nothing contained in or done under the authority of any law shall be held to be inconsistent with or in contravention of this section to the extent that the law in question makes provision which is reasonably required - (a) in the interests of defence, public safety, public order, public morality or public health; or (b) for the purpose of protecting the rights and freedoms of other persons, including the right to observe and practice a religion without the unsolicited intervention of members of another religion, and except so far as that provision or, as the case may be, the thing done under the authority thereof is shown not to be reasonably justifiable in a democratic society. it is fairly simple to understand the mandate of the Khadhi , I do not see anywhere it touches persons of another religion , infringes or undermines any other religion , yet still there is an option for persons [Muslims ] wishing redress to source it from the other courts , they themselves are not confined to it , where is the propagation of Islam in this ? where does it infringe on other persons of various worships ? what is it that elicits such intolerant emotions about this courts ? would someone please enlighten me , I am at a loss for my country Maina ndiritu KAINOOK AGENCIES LIMITED P.O.Box 210 Uhuru Gardens Nairobi 00517 Kenya Tel. +254 020 2018907 Mo. +254 722707900 kainook at swiftkenya.com litshooz at gmail.com ICQ - 167192098 -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tbaruwac2000 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 5 09:53:17 2010 From: tbaruwac2000 at yahoo.com (tsuma baruwa) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Vs: RE: KADHI COURTS AND ISLAM ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS In-Reply-To: <4BB9ACF00200004F00028AC4@vennamo.phks.fi> Message-ID: <987287.61512.qm@web113318.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi, Maina, Its true that you are in 2010 and soon you will be in 2030 albeit the point still remain the same. If Muslims need Kadhis court, I think they have a right to do that. Did christians wanted a court eg. Priest's court and denied? After all the Kadhis will not affect the non Muslims. Please, rethink and respect other Kenyans faith for peaceful coexistence and keep in mind that as a Kenyan now I need a constitution. Kind regards, Baruwa --- On Sun, 4/4/10, Paul Nyandoto wrote: From: Paul Nyandoto Subject: [YP_Ke] Vs: RE: KADHI COURTS AND ISLAM ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 11:27 PM Maina, What you have not known upto today is that it is man who wrote the Koran and the Bible, NOT GOD. Please let that sink into your hard thick ignorant skull of yours. God did not write the Koran nor the Bible. Ask even your fellow muslims they will tell you so. So please keep on sleeping we are already in 2010 not the dark ages where we were told to accept things blindly without asking why?,? even if you are being taken to the slaughter chamber. I just do not know where you got that knowledge about koran. The new constitution should not contain the kadhi courts we want all religious rituals to be the same infront of the Kenyan laws PERIOD!!! Have a nice day,? one day you will wake up; I hope it will be not? too late. By the way who cheated you that GOD wrote the koran?. Paul Nyandoto >>> "maina ndiritu" 4/4/2010 9:06? >>> I could be mistaken but the sultanate of Zanzibar ended over a hundred and fifty years ago , so this service to the sultan is unknown to me unless of course I am unaware? of the date I live in , secondly the Khadhi courts have a direct representation in the Quran and unless the Quran serves the Sultanate of Zanzibar? , your insinuations here are at most ridiculous and maliciously misrepresented .? Direct extension of Kenyan occupation by the sultan of Zanzibar ?? is this man dead or not ? or perhaps ndugu Mrisho Kikwete is the said sultan ? has there been a Zanzibari cessation from the mainland ? , Honestly ... you have nothing to say , no knowledge of the subject you approach , as a matter of fact? , this is a chaotic pile of rubbish -----Original Message----- From: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com [mailto:mlalahoi at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Nyandoto Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:51 PM To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Subject: KADHI COURTS AND ISLAM ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS Dear Kenyans, I have got or received some very low life explanation about Kadhi courts. It is even unfortunate that some of those explanation do come even from real Islamic believers who end up calling us ignorant of the kadhi courts. Kadhi courts exist in Kenya because sultan of zanzibar introduced them to the 10 km strip land along the coastal area of kenya as away of administration, just like the British also did divide and rule tactics.. Those land were under Sultan of zanzibar who was by then ruling and his governmental system wanted to hold those lands for ever. The sultan never paid or never bought those lands from the poor africans who were living in those areas, he just took them and the ones who resisted were sold to america as slaves.???Kadhi courts and Islam as a religion are two completely different things. Kadhi courts do serve man and the sultan,? NOT GOD. ISLAM as a religion serves God just as any other religion we see in kenya except atheism. I just do not see why I should be called anti islam or against muslims if I do not want Kadhi courts in our constitution. To me kadhi courts are a direct extension of kenyan occupation by the sultan of zanzibar. Those courts hide a lot of child abuses in families, hide a lot of slavery on women, men end up exploiting women under those courts. Inheritance of wealth by females become almost imposible on those courts, go to Nigeria or sudan and see what I am talking about. The kadhi courts allow direct polygamist and women slavery which any normal brain thinking creature should not accept. Kenya as a state do have already courts so why? the duplicate. What do those courts give which kenyan government courts are not giving. We want all Kenyans to be equal under tha country`s law. So please fellow muslim brothers? and some who support you blindly when informing us about Kadhi courts do not fool us around as you have been doing. Those courts serve man and the Sultan ( King), while islam serves GOD the almighty. Doing away with those kadhi courts in the constitution? will not change your faith even by an inch.? I am wrong?. 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URL: From johngichuru2004 at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 01:00:10 2010 From: johngichuru2004 at gmail.com (Gichuru) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:00:10 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] April Fools Day - Were You Pranked? - I was! In-Reply-To: References: <00ee01cad231$bd35a380$0300a8c0@Maryleen> Message-ID: Kuria, First, mungorio (actually "m?ng?rio" or "kam?ng?rio") is what you call cell phone where you are at. You know what I mean? That name was popularised by one man called Githingithia, some time in the past, when the cell phone was a status symbol. Back to the fooling business. Did you establish that mzee did not use the ukora of April fools day and that it was a genuine case? Please do not subject that old mzee to the harrowing experience. I am imagining him causing a scene at the WU banking hall, claiming his son who is in ruraya (abroad), cannot and has never lied, and that the staff wants to defraud him! On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Kuria-Mwangi wrote: > Guys, this has been entertaining especially laughing as I read about > your miseries:). Keep them coming or do we wait until next year on > April 1? Hope my old man didnt get into this ukora since he got on > April 1st some $300 for some urgent family matters! If I find out that > he used the April fools day to fool me, next year, i will text or call > him with a fake western union control no. Tell him to go withdraw $ > 1,000 to use on a project of his choice. Once he gets to the bank and > finds out that there nothing, he will learn to keep the fools day to > himself. > > Now Muchau, mungorio ni nini? You lost me on that. > Kuria > > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Boniface Machau > wrote: > > Well. all pranked and the prankered. You have to be smarter than ever. > > > > Mine was much better. I just called a guy (close ally) at around 7.00pm > and > > told him we meet at Jazz. so he drove there. He drove so fast that he > wanted > > to join me for a drink after a long fools day. In fact he was accompanied > by > > his... (another fool) *sic. So within 10 minutes he was already there. > > Before he could call my mungurio, he had to go through all the tables > > looking around to see if someone is similar to me. After two laps, > holding > > the had of his mate,.. missed me. so he called me to find that i was at > > home eating supper. He called me endless names but could not attest to > any > > as was also a victim of Fools day as well as i lost 1000 in cash for a > hoax > > to another fool that he had an emergency . My goodness.... next year > > mtakipata.... > > > > uuuiiii!! > > > > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Maryleen wrote: > >> > >> My friend calls me with some secrecy to her desk and tells me..."you see > >> the day I asked for an off duty in the afternoon, I had been invited for > an > >> interview. Please brace yourself coz I got the job!" So i went like on > my! > >> where? She goes ahead, this time with a glint of glitter in her eyes > and it > >> becomes more real to me.." brace yourself some more coz when I tell you, > you > >> will try to be as close to me as possible - ICRAF! We are going for the > >> orientation on Tuesday so I need to ask for a day off!" > >> > >> I went on and on about how I was oh so happy for her and since we are in > >> Thika a few questions went through my mind but I only managed to ask the > >> "how much" question. Since I know her current figure she simply said > ..say > >> current times two and a half! My eyes widened Tom (and Jerry) design. > >> > >> It was only after I sat back at my desk that I knew the kind of person > my > >> colleague is she would be so unsettled already with intense plans! I > drafted > >> a short email to her. It did the tricks she laughed on end! I was > pranked > >> and I had promised myself I wouldnt believe anything until afternoon! > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Dan Nyutu > >> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > >> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:30 AM > >> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] April Fools Day - Were You Pranked? - I was! > >> Gichuru, > >> > >> Me-en! Dont make me believe i lost some cash today morning. > >> > >> I helped out a friend who needed to go to hospital but was broke. > >> > >> Just hoping it wasnt a prank too. > >> > >> Dan > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Gichuru > wrote: > >>> > >>> Yes I was. I am still pinching myself to believe. I have been in > denial, > >>> I want to believe it was a dream. But it was not. It happened. And it > >>> happened so fast. In a flash, and I was pranked, duped and left for > dead. I > >>> could not imagine it had just happened to me. Why me?, oh well, the day > is > >>> ending and looking back, I want to laugh at myself so hard. > >>> > >>> The announcer in the radio station I was listening to in the jam kept > on > >>> hammering the point, "today is April fools day". Then in the news on > the > >>> same station, they gave this news item about how some Kenyan players > are > >>> going for trials at Arsenal. I almost shouted in the car, "go tell > that to > >>> the mountains or be smarter next time". Along the corridors in the > office, > >>> colleagues kept shouting, "April fools day!" as if someone had paid > them to > >>> remind them, lest they were pranked. > >>> > >>> I arrive in my desk and as I settle down, my phone rings. It is a > >>> message. It is from a YP (name witheld). "Please send me some credit, i > am > >>> in a jam and want to make some calls". I checked my balance. I had > credit. I > >>> scrolled to Safaricom menu, to Sambaza and sent this dear friend some > >>> credit, lest there's an emergency and the blame is heaped on me later. > The > >>> good Christian I am even spent some more money. I followed the sambaza > >>> transaction with a message, "I hope that helps". > >>> > >>> The reply came almost immediately. It had to, there was loose credit to > >>> spare! It was clear and to the point, "yes, it will, thanks. April > fools > >>> day". I went to the cafeteria for a cup of coffee. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Gichuru > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Countdown----TODAY. > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi YP in Mombasa, > >>> > >>> Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) > >>> > >>> Venue - Sumerlink hotel > >>> Date - 31st march 2010 > >>> Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm > >>> Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market > saturated > >>> with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". > >>> > >>> Come with FRIENDS!!!! 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Thank you regards, Nyambura Ndungu ________________________________ From: Christine Nyawira To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 12:25:30 PM Subject: [YP_Ke] apartment for rent Hi Guys I am urgenty looking for an apartment along ngong road thats self contained secure and has no water issues going for 10-15k any ideas anyone -- Countdown----TODAY. ? Hi YP in Mombasa, ? Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) ? Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". ? Come with FRIENDS!!!! 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URL: From omtatah at yahoo.com Mon Apr 5 05:29:09 2010 From: omtatah at yahoo.com (Okiya Omtatah Okoiti) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 02:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA Message-ID: <376732.65990.qm@web62007.mail.re1.yahoo.com> PRESS STATEMENT Church leaders should emulate God whodoes not destroy the righteousalong with the wicked We acknowledgethat today?s Kenya, and the one anticipated in the Proposed Constitution of Kenya, is not a secular State but a religiously neutral one. The Kenyan State is supposed to treat all religions as equals; never to favour or be hostile to any religious beliefs. Therefore, we call upon all those condemning church leaders for raising fundamental questions about the Proposed Constitution of Kenya to immediately stop crossing the legitimate lines of criticism. Rambling onto the slippery surface of irrational exuberance is largely indistinguishable from open hostility to the Church. Their prejudiced, speculative, one-dimensional and narrow analysis of the Church?s position is purposefully based on wilful distortions of the issues at hand. Church leaders represent an important constituency and the issues they are raising are fundamental. To ask Christians to make a choice between the Church and the draft constitution is to ask them to make a false choice. There is no choice between the draft constitution and the church since the constitution of the Republic belongs equally to all Kenyans, irrespective of their race, creed, ethnicity, class, station or status. >From the days of the apostles, church leaders have the unique authority passing on the faith and applying the teaching of Christ to the circumstances of the day. They have a responsibility to foster among the faithful those actions that promote holiness and are in accord with the Gospel, as well as a duty to condemn those actions which are incompatible with their teaching. And because it belongs to the Church always and everywhere to announce moral principles, even about the social order, and to render judgment concerning any human affairs insofar as the fundamental rights of the person or the salvation of souls requires it, church leaders have both a right and a duty to guide their flock. We also condemn all those politicians and commentators who have tried to rubbish the position of the Church, as untenable, arguing that if they reject the proposed constitution we will still go back to the current one which has Kadhis courts in them. The Kadhi?s Courts are in the current constitution as a historical mistake, waiting to be corrected. They are not a good. But if they go into the new constitution their status changes fundamentally because they will be there by the universal supreme mandate of the sovereign Kenyan people. Hence, their substance will change from illegitimate to legitimate even though their form as courts subordinate to the High Court will remain. That is why the Church would rather they remain as a mistake than that they be elevated to the sovereign wish of the Kenya people. We should recognize that the Committee of Experts introduced, or failed to ferret out, many policy issues that belong to the legislative not to the constitutive process. The Constitution is supposed to be about broad principles. It was wrong to use the Constitution to legislate on abortion, on the Kadhis courts, on military rights, and on similar policy issues. All policy issues belong to Parliamentary legislation. Putting them in the Constitution has put us in a situation where a largely very good document is threatened with justified rejection. But is rejection the way to resolve this dilemma where a document that is overwhelmingly good is contaminated by evil? We call upon church leaders to reconsider their decision to reject the document because of the few mistakes it contains. Scripture has a very clear way forward. God is always patient and caring in the face of evil. Perfect is never the enemy of good. God does not destroy the good along with evil. He engages strategically. God never destroys the good even as he fights evil. God is a smart fighter; he never causes collateral damage. Otherwise, He would have destroyed the world because of the sin of humankind that stinks to high heaven. But because of the little good that there is, His Divine Mercy spares us all, giving us a chance to repent and make good our iniquities. In Genesis 18:16-33 Abraham pleads with God not to destroy the city of Sodom for the sake of the few good people there.Abraham asks God:?Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?? And God agrees to spare the whole city for the sake initially of 50 righteous then 45, 40, 30, 20, and, finally the Lord said: ?I will not destroy it for the sake of ten.? Eventually God saves righteous Lot and his family before He destroys Sodom. The main theme of the Gospel according to St. Matthew is division and judgment. Evil people are separated and destroyed as the holy are saved. In the parable of Wheat and weeds (Matthew 13:24?30) Jesus teaches through a parable, about a man who sowed good seed in his field, but while people slept, his enemy came and sowed weeds also among the wheat, and went away. But when the blade sprang up and brought forth fruit, then the weed appeared also. The servants wanted to go and pull them up but the master refused, saying: 'because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.' " Instead of rejecting the Proposed Constitution of Kenya, church leaders should reject verbal assurances and demand that President Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga lead MPs into signing a post-referendum memorandum of understanding that immediately the new constitution is ratified they will embark on amendments to remove all offending clauses. For this will be a sure way of giving Kenyans a new constitution but not the simple way of dismissing the church concerns as dismal and parochial. 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This is a political issue and we must hold our Chief Executive Officer to account for us Kenyans. Amongst the people President Kibaki has to account to include Christians and Muslims alike. Why has he allowed drug and piracy money to be cleaned and absorbed in our economy via the property on rush? These criminals have bought their way into buying property in Kenya just like other Kenyans have occasioned hunger on our people by siphoning oil and maize and other scandals. Our laws are so clear about money laundering and any such proceeds. And this is the irony that we are facing as a nation. We are yarping on the roof tops about a new constitution, yet, our CEO has refused to enforce the law as it currently stands. The question is this; if we cannot enforce the law as it is now, what will make us enforce the new law as we want? My 2 cents is this; let us not mix issues as we strive to marshal support for the Proposed New Constitution. But let us engage in acts and deeds that inspire hope, peace, national healing and reconciliation. Odhiambo T Oketch, CEO KCDN Nairobi, PO Box 47890-00100, Nairobi , Kenya . Tel; +254 724 365 557. Email; komarockswatch at yahoo.com Blog; http://kcdnkomarockswatch.blogspot.com Blog group; friendsofkcdn at yahoogroups.com --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Solomon Ojoo wrote: From: Solomon Ojoo Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 11:04 PM #yiv2131791682 v\00003a* { } #yiv2131791682 v\00003a* { } ?I am going to contribute to this in a very simple manageable pieces?of philosophical English so that it may reach the simplest in the society. ? Succession in kadhi's court. the secret the Muslims are not telling you now is that any property currently owned by a Muslim will never change hands to another faithful. It will only be disposed to another Muslim if it has to be disposed. Kenyan will soon be sold to "the dogs" as Jesus referred to in the bible. Eastleigh?is already gone, south c is already gone laico regency is already gone amongst others. Give Kenya some 20 years from now and you will be forced to convert to a Muslim before you even rent the houses the Muslims shall have acquired with oil money pumped from Saudi Arabia plus the piracy money. ? Marriage in kadhi's court. Muslims are polygamous and allowing such practices may affect the marriage life. I will go and marry another wife and if accused of bigamy I will argue my case that I converted to Islam yesterday and I will be taken to a kadhi who will acquit me and congaratulate me. By that I will be sowing many seeds everywhere and?some offsprings may end up being chokora who will be very desperate to accept even being recruited to suicide bombers or alkaida to fight anybody who is an enemy to the Muslim community. ? Do we want to be walking in the street, reading, resting then the next minute you lose your limbs because of suicide bombing? Do we want women to be treated like trash that even in the mosque they cannot mix with men? All are equal before God. Do we want to breach the blessing of peace God has given us since time immemorial. Why should my tax be used to pay a kadhi who is not professing my faith. That is like forcing the Christians to build mosques yet Muslims are not forced to build churches. Why are the Hindus, budhas, finger of?god, jehova witness, etc?interests not noted in the constitution why Muslims. Look at Nigeria, Somali?now and become wise. Why are the somalias runing to Kenya when there is war. Why cant they go to Sudan or Iraq. They simply know beyond any reasonable doubt that the only peaceful people are Christians. The current constitution has?kadhis court just because of what Kenyatta did out of his action without thinking. He was just like some of our mps rushing to include things to be dealt with later in parliament. Better half devil than a whole one. The current kadhis provision in the constitution is less harmful?than the one in the new constitution. ? THE ONLY MOST?DANGEROUS CLAUSE IN THE CURRENT CONSTITUTION IS THE KADHIS COURT AND KENYANS WE NEED TO BE VERY VERY CAREFUL. ? ? ? ? ? ? -------Original Message------- ? From: Joe Githinji Date: 01/04/2010 19:14:53 To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts ? I agree with Washington. And in any case, if the NCCK insists that they'll marshall their flock not to vote for the draft coz of that...well, they'll have lost anyway coz we'll be stuck with the current constitution that has Kadhi courts.? Let's not deny our Muslim brothers and sisters what they've had for the last 45yrs and it never hurt any christian anyway! ? Joe --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Odhiambo Washington wrote: From: Odhiambo Washington Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 7:16 PM On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:31 PM, kennedy waweru wrote: Just a genuine and honest question to my friends muslims. We will all vote in the referendum and the constitution is all about making equal representation for all Kenyans. I have a few queries that I'd honestly like to hear a few answers to. Please, Let us not throw hate words at each other, please If the kadhi's courts were not in the constitution, how would that affect a muslim from practicing their faith? Is there something that specifically asks for their inclusion? I am asking this since then I'd see no reason why any specific religion should be treated different from the others. I think of "njuri ncheke" which is not ingrained in the constitution yet those who align themselves to it practice without any problem and very effectively. Why include kadhi's court in the constitution? ?It can't be under the disguis of minority since hindu's are fewer than muslims yet they still practice comfortably. What is the difference between kenyan muslims and those in tanzania who live without kadhi's courts ingrained in the constitution? @Kennedy, I am not a muslim, but I'd like to answer this question anyway. The presence of Kadhis Court in the KE constitution has never affected me in any way. How has it affected you? And IIRC, "njuri ncheke" is the Meru Council of Elders. It is not a religion. Much the same thing as the Luo Council of Elders and all the other Council of Elders. How did you end up comparing a council of elders to a religion? IMHO, Kenya will not burn just because of having the Kadhi's Courts engraved in the constitution. Kenyans have wasted so much of their energies in this subject, yet not a single non-Muslim Kenyan can tell how it negatively affected them. We should be talking about the wastage that we will incur when we elect an MP, s/he is appointed Minister, which then makes him/ger resign the parliamentary seat, and we head back to the election (by-election); We should be talking about appointments to the Civil Service having to be ratified by parliament the US style, etc. Muslims waliwafanya nini? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -- Lucky Dube -- Countdown----TODAY. ? Hi YP in Mombasa, ? Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) ? 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The servants thereupon bare unto the master of the ceremonies, who rebuked the attendants saying: 'O worthless servants why have ye kept the better wine till now?' For he knew nothing of all that Jesus had done. The servants answered: 'O sir, there is here a holy man of God, for he hath made of water, wine.' *The master of the ceremonies thought that the servants were drunken;* but they that were sitting near to Jesus, having seen the whole matter, rose from the table and paid him reverence, saying: 'Verily thou art an holy one of God, a true prophet sent to us from God!' Notice that this was during a wedding, and the wine had ran short. What i want to bring to your attention is the phrase where the master of ceremonies thought that the *servants were drunk*. This implies that the wine was supposed to make the people drunk. And this happens normally in social places, drinks ran out and we are waiting for more. And notice the question form the MC, *why have you kept this wine till now?* Jesus here comes out as someone who understood that drinking alcohol is nor fundamentally wrong!! He basically has no problem with drinking alcohol. Otherwise he should have converted the water into some juice, soft drink of that time or something. Why have we been duped to think that Alcohol and Wine are unchristian? 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Ngure 0721504253 ? --- On Mon, 4/5/10, MATUNDURA GESORA wrote: From: MATUNDURA GESORA Subject: [YP_Ke] IT Gurus help me sort the Problem To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 11:03 PM i removed the battery of my laptopn without swithing the machine off the nachine in the normal way. since them it has refused to open its OS. the following message on a blue screen is what I get A problem has been detected and windos has decided to shut down to prevent damage to ur computer.......... if this is the first time....... if problems coninue.... it keeeps doing that n cannot restart. anyone who can tell me what the problem is and what i can do to sort it? I will appreciate. 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URL: From salah.sheikh at yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 03:15:03 2010 From: salah.sheikh at yahoo.com (Salah Sheikh) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA In-Reply-To: <450778.91262.qm@web62008.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <450778.91262.qm@web62008.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <578610.16815.qm@web57901.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Dear Omtatah, I am against the draft constitution, I am yet to be convinced that it is an improvement over what we already have. It looks exactly like the old constitution that allowed a few tribes to usurp the very sovereignty of this country. The people of Kenya were never consulted on making of the Lancaster constitution and this draft is just a continuation of the same old mentality. I will campaign for a no vote, vehemently unless: 1. 8 Regional Governments are established 2. Self-determination clause through referendum is introduced 3. The presidential system is abandoned for parliamentary system. These are the minimum demands some of us have of this constitution and if it passes, we will consider our options. Over to you. ________________________________ From: Okiya Omtatah Okoiti To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; New Vision List ; NVK-Mageuzi at yahoogroups.com; PEOPLE FOR PEACE IN AFRICA ; ProgressiveMinds ; Young professionals-ke ; africa- oped ; Wanabidii Googlegroups ; Miziziyahaki Pwani Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 8:44:55 AM Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA Dear all, Hope you had a lovely Easter. Thanks for the time each one has taken to give feedback. I have learnt a lot as there is no better teacher than being criticised constructively - a thing you have all done ably... I support the Proposed Constitution of Kenya and I am going to campaign for its passing. But that does not mean that those who have issues with policies creating Kadhis courts, abortion clauses, trade union rights for disciplined forces, etc have no case. To me these are legislative issues that belong to Parliament not to the people via a referendum. We cannot wish them away even as we support the document. They are flaws that need a cure. And we must agree that those uncomfortable with them have a case. Them work out on the way forward. We need everybody, especially key institutions like the Churches, on board. Because we don't just want to pass this draft - we want to pass it with an overwhelming majority that gives it a strong mandate. I would hate a situation where we have to force the draft down the people's throats. The abortion debate belongs to the Medical Act, where it is today. It should not be in the Constitution. The clause on the disciplined forces having this or that right is not only nonsensical, it also belongs to the legislation. What is it doing in the constitution. @ Ong'wen: The reference point for Kenya's constitution is 1963. I hold a different view about the Kadhis courts. I think they hurt Muslims (not Christians) by giving them FALSE affirmative action. For example, for Muslims in my Busia hometown, the nearest Kadhi is in Kisumu (correct me if I am wrong coz I got this from a Muslim friend), yet there is a magistrate's court in Busia Town. Now why can't this magistrate's court in Busia dispense justice using Islamic law, forcing Muslims to travel to Kisumu? I am reliably told that the handicap is in the training of our lawyers, aand in the requirements to become a magistrate or a judge. They are never trained in Islamic law. Can't we require that for one to be a magistrate s/he should be an expert not just in criminal law but also in Islamic law? What of in African customary law? That way, the magistrate's court in Busia would become a Kadhis court the moment litigants demand to be heard under Islamic law. The court remains open to none Muslims, but above all it MAINSTREAMS the Muslims in Kenya. The real lie about Kadhis courts being good for Muslims is the fact that appeals are NOT heard and determined under Islamic law; they go to the High Court!!! So, are we helping Muslims? REALLY!!!? I think that being 30% of the population, Muslims do not need affirmative action; they just have to be mainstreamed. And that involves revising the syllabus of the law school and the requirements for becoming a judge to include Islamic law. Creating "ghettos" in the Judiciary for them only marginalises them further. But over and above everything else, let's hear everybody and find a way forward, awake to the fact that, "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill . The opposition by the church leaders is a real threat to the document and we must take it away - even if just to stop those nefarious but powerful forces who are rushing behind the church not because they share its views, but see a golden opportunity to unleash their awesome wherewithal to scuttle the process without being blamed. It is strange none has seen how the statement chastises the church leaders by asking them to go back to the Bible for guidance. Kindest regards, Omtatah 0722684777 ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: "mauricejoduor at yahoo.ca" To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 3:27:18 PM Subject: Re: PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA Ochwangi As much as I hate to do this, I am leaning towards your point of view with respect to this Draft Constitution. My only fear is that if we do not pass it, it may be another 5 or more years before an opportunity like this comes along. I say let us pass this thing and then hold a national discussion on the contentious components. Courage, Maurice Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network ________________________________ From: David ochwangi Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:23:52 -0700 (PDT) To: Cc: Subject: Re: PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA Chris: Is this a threat? Are you threatening Omtata for his opinions and exercise of his freedom of speech rights? I am opposed to this draft, so am I under threat from you as well? What do you mean it will be painful for him? This Draft is incomplete and wrong in more ways than I care to state here, that is my opinion, you are entitled to yours, so what is this "pain" we must be prepared for? This thing won't pass, watch! --- On Mon, 4/5/10, chris owala wrote: >From: chris owala >Subject: Re: PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA >To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com >Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 9:26 AM > > >Dear Omtata >My names are chris owalla,and am christian like you and from my pespective i do see a biger problem with draft constitution and if any thing its better than the current document that is guiding this country.Also if you look at the history of struggle for reforms in this country the issues of kadhis court and a bortion have never been an issue and whichever way you people take abortion and kadhis court will still be with us anyway.Am very sad with people like you who have been in the fore front is agitating for reforms that you want to hide under christianity to deny kenyans food.Actually what you dont know is that because of Katiba you people can walk into church and get empty seats because kenyans can simple decide to rebel and this rebelion can be worse off given the history of church and religion lesders during both 2005 referendum and the 2007 general election. >I would like to remind you that kenyans are > watching keenly and when time comes you and your soldiers will be sorted out and for you it will be very painful. >Thanks >Chris Owalla >Kisumu > > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: Kenfish >To: MlalaHoi >Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 3:07:26 PM >Subject: Re: PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA > >Okoiti; > >Please find something constructive to talk about. Why did they put the >Kadhi's courts in the constitution in the first place? Why are they >interested in antagonism? This document will never see light of day. >Let them make money as much as they want but when the voting is > done, >that document will NEVER see light of day. As Christians, we will >accept a loss of a few billions if it will guarantee a stable country. > >That document will never see light. > >Kenfish > >On Apr 5, 12:29 pm, Okiya Omtatah Okoiti wrote: >> PRESS STATEMENT >> >> Church leaders should emulate God whodoes >> not destroy the righteousalong with the wicked >> >> We acknowledgethat today?s Kenya, and >> the one anticipated in the Proposed Constitution of Kenya, is not a secular >> State but a religiously neutral one. The Kenyan State is supposed to treat all religions as equals; never to favour or be hostile to >> any religious beliefs. >> >> Therefore, we call upon all those condemning church leaders >> for raising fundamental > questions about the Proposed Constitution of Kenya to >> immediately stop crossing the legitimate lines of criticism. Rambling onto the >> slippery surface of irrational exuberance is largely indistinguishable from >> open hostility to the Church. Their prejudiced, speculative, one-dimensional >> and narrow analysis of the Church?s position is purposefully based on wilful >> distortions of the issues at hand. >> >> Church leaders represent an important constituency and the >> issues they are raising are fundamental. To ask Christians to make a choice >> between the Church and the draft constitution is to ask them to make a false >> choice. There is no choice between the draft constitution and the church since >> the constitution of the Republic belongs equally to all Kenyans, irrespective >> of their race, creed, ethnicity, class, station or status. >> >> From the days of the > apostles, church leaders have the >> unique authority passing on the faith and applying the teaching of Christ to >> the circumstances of the day. They have a responsibility to foster among the >> faithful those actions that promote holiness and are in accord with the Gospel, >> as well as a duty to condemn those actions which are incompatible with their >> teaching. >> >> And because it belongs to the Church always and everywhere >> to announce moral principles, even about the social order, and to render >> judgment concerning any human affairs insofar as the fundamental rights of the >> person or the salvation of souls requires it, church leaders have both a right >> and a duty to guide their flock. >> >> We also condemn all those politicians and commentators who >> have tried to rubbish the position of the Church, as untenable, arguing that if >> they reject the proposed > constitution we will still go back to the current one >> which has Kadhis courts in them. >> >> The Kadhi?s Courts are in the current constitution as a >> historical mistake, waiting to be corrected. They are not a good. But if they >> go into the new constitution their status changes fundamentally because they >> will be there by the universal supreme mandate of the sovereign Kenyan people. >> Hence, their substance will change from illegitimate to legitimate even though >> their form as courts subordinate to the High Court will remain. That is why the >> Church would rather they remain as a mistake than that they be elevated to the >> sovereign wish of the Kenya people. >> >> We should recognize that the Committee of Experts introduced, >> or failed to ferret out, many policy issues that belong to the legislative not >> to the constitutive process. The Constitution is supposed to > be about broad >> principles. It was wrong to use the Constitution to legislate on abortion, on >> the Kadhis courts, on military rights, and on similar policy issues. All policy >> issues belong to Parliamentary legislation. Putting them in the Constitution >> has put us in a situation where a largely very good document is threatened with >> justified rejection. >> >> But is rejection the way to resolve this dilemma where a >> document that is overwhelmingly good is contaminated by evil? We call upon >> church leaders to reconsider their decision to reject the document because of >> the few mistakes it contains. Scripture has a very clear way forward. God is >> always patient and caring in the face of evil. Perfect is never the enemy of >> good. God does not destroy the good along with evil. He engages strategically. >> God never destroys the good even as he fights evil. God is a > smart fighter; he >> never causes collateral damage. Otherwise, He would have destroyed the world >> because of the sin of humankind that stinks to high heaven. But because of the >> little good that there is, His Divine Mercy spares us all, giving us a chance >> to repent and make good our iniquities. >> >> In Genesis 18:16-33 Abraham pleads with God not to >> destroy the city of Sodom for the sake of the few good people there.Abraham asks God:?Wilt thou >> also destroy the righteous with the wicked?? And God agrees to spare the whole city >> for the sake initially of 50 righteous then 45, 40, 30, 20, and, finally the >> Lord said: ?I will not destroy it for the sake of ten.? Eventually God saves righteous Lot and his >> family before He destroys Sodom. >> >> The main theme of the Gospel according to St. Matthew is >> division and judgment. Evil people are separated and > destroyed as the holy are >> saved. In the parable of Wheat and weeds (Matthew 13:24?30) Jesus >> teaches through a parable, about a man who sowed good seed in his field, but >> while people slept, his enemy came and sowed weeds also among the wheat, and >> went away. But when the blade sprang up and brought forth fruit, then the weed >> appeared also. The servants wanted to go and pull them up but the master >> refused, saying: 'because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the >> wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will >> tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be >> burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.' " >> >> Instead of rejecting the Proposed Constitution of Kenya, >> church leaders should reject verbal assurances and demand that President Kibaki >> and Prime Minister Raila Odinga > lead MPs into signing a post-referendum >> memorandum of understanding that immediately the new constitution is ratified >> they will embark on amendments to remove all offending clauses. 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URL: From lynnmasengo at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 05:10:45 2010 From: lynnmasengo at gmail.com (Lynn Masengo) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:10:45 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Black snake In-Reply-To: References: <9ea3ccd91003290121o7880c777t8441c6e284c31db5@mail.gmail.com> <768818.35130.qm@web111711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <36a3cbf31003300038v19368ffck5aa67e46269e1bb3@mail.gmail.com> <80a684d61003300456j4df35derfde7750a495c167b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Mukuru Kwa Wangoko, Heheheheeeeee your own medicine from Papa Likondi! I hope it is sweeter than the venom from the snake. Snakes are cold blooded animals and hate heat/warmth. Nyongesa stop lying about snakes seeking warmth. These snakes are after the owner of the house. They must have been send by the landlord. Black snakes are devils and can pretend to be dead for one week, then, yeeeeeeeeeeepi, they strike you in the neck and in thirty six seconds you are clinically dead. Please shift NOW as advised by Papa Likondi. Lynn Masengo On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Muita Wangoko wrote: > @Judy, > > Wee wacha. Can't you see that Papa Kondoo has a partner in this unholy > trade, none other but man Franco Thiong'o. But chungeni sana you might end > up being flushed thinking that you can actually flush those damn > reptiles.... > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------+ > Best Regards, > :Muita Wangoko: > > Life is transient; its joys are transitory; > its hours are fleeting > > +--------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 14:22, joseph nyongesa wrote: > >> No cause for Alarm, *kunanyesha inje* and so its cold. That snake is >> simply looking for joto. I(myself) suspect, i have one or two in my house. >> If they are there, and i am sure they are there, i want them to know that my >> philanthropy sufficiently extends to snakes. >> Already i have had a discussion with my cat. On their behalf, i have told >> my cat to stop snooping snooping around. I am telling it to not trouble >> trouble and trouble will not trouble us. We have agreed that a good way to >> spend energy...or to replace the habit of snooping around, would be to >> dance to my music even as i rehearse for this coming gig >> Also that it should continue showering me with smiles. people you should >> see a cat`s smile. I can`t see it on your behalf. >> Nietzsche said that there shall come smiling lions and i add cats. I >> should add that there shall come smiling snakes. >> >> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:00 PM, judy kaiguire wrote: >> >>> This is the best thread ever... >>> >>> From kwa Wangoko Valley, Francis get serious lakini nimecheka thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Francis Thiong'o wrote: >>> >>>> I also know something about snakes as well especially the black ones. >>>> First they never slither alone and are normally in pairs of male and >>>> female and so this guy must be very worried. When any of the two lose >>>> contact they get violent and they like to nibble on soft tissues >>>> especially children or adult lips, ears and other soft facial tissue. >>>> The attraction to the face is normally as a result of the warmth from >>>> the breath. Assuming you were able to kill one of them male or female, >>>> the partner is just in you house and soon will be in your bed as >>>> uninvited guest. If you have children the worse because they like the >>>> baby cot at night. They coil around the kid though strangely they >>>> rarely harm them. You will soon start loosing eggs once in two week >>>> coz this snake must eat. Do not kill the reamining snake more so if it >>>> is a male. >>>> >>>> But you should not be very worried coz i can charm the snake out of >>>> your house at a small token. But for the eggs we must give them time >>>> to hatch before i can charm them out. Promptly make a decision before >>>> the remaining snake gets a partner and the eggs hatch. You may be >>>> required to feed a whole colony of snakes. >>>> >>>> You can also decide to be a snake charmer like me. >>>> >>>> From kwa Wangoko Valley >>>> >>>> It is the certified snake Charmer/operator 'Franco' >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Muita Wangoko >>>> wrote: >>>> > @Judy, >>>> > >>>> > Papa lazima akuwe ni mrogi. Do you see how he provide clear-cut >>>> logistics >>>> > on snakes...I believe only them who are of darkness understand best >>>> this >>>> > unholy practice....tutachoma wewe! >>>> > >>>> > +--------------------------------------------------------------+ >>>> > Best Regards, >>>> > :Muita Wangoko: >>>> > >>>> > Life is transient; its joys are transitory; >>>> > its hours are fleeting >>>> > >>>> > +--------------------------------------------------------------+ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 19:33, Muita Wangoko >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Oh yes there is Mukuru Kwa Wangoko and it is in Nairobi. Papa, you >>>> can >>>> >> now bring all your relatives back in the village to Nairobi though >>>> you still >>>> >> lie to them that Nairobi is actually America and I will be more than >>>> glad to >>>> >> accomodate them with no monthly rent.....if possible you could also >>>> uproot >>>> >> your shamba and come with it.....we could have the first case of >>>> hanging >>>> >> shambas in Kenya... >>>> >> >>>> >> +--------------------------------------------------------------+ >>>> >> Best Regards, >>>> >> :Muita Wangoko: >>>> >> >>>> >> Life is transient; its joys are transitory; >>>> >> its hours are fleeting >>>> >> >>>> >> +--------------------------------------------------------------+ >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 14:56, judy kaiguire >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> @ Papa you have clearly scared Rafidah..looking at your name l could >>>> >>> have sworn l saw a request of a blanket made of Likondi then now >>>> there >>>> >>> is Mukuru Wangoko hehehe! >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On 3/30/10, Papa Likondi wrote: >>>> >>> > You are in Great trouble. Kwanza we don't call snakes by their >>>> names >>>> >>> > when >>>> >>> > they land in your house. You should have told us that a"rope" fell >>>> from >>>> >>> > the >>>> >>> > ceiling. You must undergo numerous cleansing activities to send >>>> the >>>> >>> > "rope" >>>> >>> > away from your house and memory. This of course come at a small >>>> fee. I >>>> >>> > know >>>> >>> > guys (7) who will do these but they are in my village, and you >>>> know >>>> >>> > petrol >>>> >>> > has gone up. >>>> >>> > Right now there could be at least 30 smaller snakes in your >>>> ceeiling (A >>>> >>> > black snake lays upto 123 eggs) >>>> >>> > See those small cracks in the ceiling? Thats is where they >>>> normally >>>> >>> > pass >>>> >>> > when going for water from from your own kutchen. >>>> >>> > Instant Remedy: Move to a new house without a ceiling- these >>>> houses >>>> >>> > will be >>>> >>> > found in Mukuru Kwa Wangoko. >>>> >>> > Have a Likondi snake >>>> >>> > Papa Likondi >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:26 AM, maina njuguna >>>> >>> > wrote: >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> >> It depends on where you hail from as well as the where your house >>>> is >>>> >>> >> located. For example, there are some areas in Ukambani that have >>>> the >>>> >>> >> highest >>>> >>> >> number of snakes in SqKm. That means that availability of these >>>> >>> >> reptiles >>>> >>> >> is >>>> >>> >> quite high and the residents of these areas have a way of dealing >>>> with >>>> >>> >> them. >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> As Muita says, superstitions of snakes are galore and it all >>>> depends >>>> >>> >> also >>>> >>> >> on where your beliefs lay. >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> It is also important for you to realise that people create >>>> >>> >> superstitions >>>> >>> >> where there are things[read snakes, bats, cats] or any phenomena >>>> that >>>> >>> >> they >>>> >>> >> cannot rationally understand leave alone explain. >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> The question is, where do you belong? Or can you rationally >>>> explain >>>> >>> >> the >>>> >>> >> presence of the snake to the bush around your house? >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> *Maina Njuguna* >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> *mmnjug at yahoo.com* >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> ------------------------------ >>>> >>> >> *From:* Muita Wangoko >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com >>>> >>> >> *Sent:* Mon, March 29, 2010 2:45:12 PM >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> *Subject:* Re: [YP_Ke] Black snake >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> It depends on how you want to look at it. If you want to believe >>>> what >>>> >>> >> they >>>> >>> >> say, then be it but if you don't want to then be sure nothing >>>> >>> >> will happen. 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URL: From raomosh at yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 05:35:44 2010 From: raomosh at yahoo.com (RAPHAEL OMONDI) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 02:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Invitation Message-ID: <580572.88165.qm@web37601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey people, I would like to take this opportunity to invite to the first "Ni sisi" forum in Kibera on 17th April 2010. This is an initiative that is looking forward to define the role of young people in promoting good governance and democracy in this country. It will also be the platform for young people to air their views and participate in the leadership or decision making processes. Finally it will also be addressing the issues of respect to human dignity and diversity. The chief guest speaker: Mr. John Githongo former permanent secretary for governance and ethics other guest speaker. Steve Gichohi. political scientist and programme officer in charge of democracy and governance at Youth Alive Kenya. Marion Atieno: women activist. Venue: ghetto ,light hall on your way to Carolina for Kibera Date: 17th April 2010 Time: 9am to 11.30am. DON'T MISS Yours truly Raphael Omondi Founder/Coordinator ]Pamoja Youth Foundation. -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We are having a* meeting tomorrow (wednesday 7th april 2010 )* to polish up on all matters pending as we gear on the painting day on sat 10th april 2010 we will meet in the usual *venue, summerlink hotel* at the rooftop restaurant. *from 6:00pm on the DOT*, let us come and finish the work that we started. and for *those still awaiting to contribute, this is your chance!!!!!!!* * * -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Ktafrica at aol.com Tue Apr 6 06:54:24 2010 From: Ktafrica at aol.com (Ktafrica at aol.com) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 06:54:24 EDT Subject: [Jambo] THE REAL PROBLEM WITH "WHITE PEOPLE" Message-ID: <2e8c7.1207e85e.38ec6ce0@aol.com> Read what a White Reporter wrote in a Georgia Newspaper (YESS) Website: _http://wacptv.ning.com/forum/topics/andrew-m-manis-when-are-we_ (http://wacptv.ning.com/forum/topics/andrew-m-manis-when-are-we) Andrew M. Manis is associate professor of history at Macon State College in Georgia and wrote this for an editorial in the Macon Telegraph. Andrew M. Manis: When Are WE Going to Get Over It? For much of the last forty years, ever since America "fixed" its race problem in the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, we white people have been impatient with African Americans who continued to blame race for their difficulties. Often we have heard whites ask, "When are African Americans finally going to get over it? Now I want to ask: "When are we White Americans going to get over our ridiculous obsession with skin color? Recent reports that "Election Spurs Hundreds' of Race Threats, Crimes" should frighten and infuriate every one of us. Having grown up in "Bombingham," Alabama in the 1960s, I remember overhearing an avalanche of comments about what many white classmates and their parents wanted to do to John and Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King. Eventually, as you may recall, in all three cases, someone decided to do more than "talk the talk." Since our recent presidential election, to our eternal shame we are once again hearing the same reprehensible talk I remember from my boyhood. We white people have controlled political life in the disunited colonies and United States for some 400 years on this continent. Conservative whites have been in power 28 of the last 40 years. Eve n during the eight Clinton years, conservatives in Congress blocked most of his agenda and pulled him to the right. Yet never in that period did I read any headlines suggesting that anyone was calling for the assassinations of presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, or either of the Bushes. Criticize them, yes. Call for their impeachment, perhaps. But there were no bounties on their heads. And even when someone did try to kill Ronald Reagan, the perpetrator was non-political mental case who wanted merely to impress Jody Foster. But elect a liberal who happens to be Black and we're back in the sixties again. At this point in our history, we should be proud that we've proven what conservatives are always saying -- that in America anything is possible, EVEN electing a black man as president. But instead we now hear that school children from Maine to California are talking about wanting to "assassinate Obama." Fighting the urge to throw up, I can only ask, "How long?" How long before we white people realize we can't make our nation, much less the whole world, look like us? How long until we white people can - once and for all - get over this hell-conceived preoccupation with skin color? How long until we white people get over the demonic conviction that white skin makes us superior? How long before we white people get over our bitter resentments about being demoted to the status of equality with non-whites? How long before we get over our expectations that we should be at the head of the line merely because of our white skin? How long until we white people end our silence and call out our peers when they share the latest racist jokes in the privacy of our white-only conversations? I believe in free speech, bu t how long until we white people start making racist loudmouths as socially uncomfortable as we do flag burners? How long until we white people will stop insisting that blacks exercise personal responsibility, build strong families, educate themselves enough to edit the Harvard Law Review, and work hard enough to become President of the United States, only to threaten to assassinate them when they do? How long before we start "living out the true meaning" of our creeds, both civil and religious, that all men and women are created equal and that "red and yellow, black and white" all are precious in God's sight? Until this past November 4, I didn't believe this country would ever elect an African American to the presidency. I still don't believe I'll live long enough to see us white people get over our racism problem. But here's my three-point plan: First, everyday that Barack Obama lives in the White House that Black Slaves Built, I'm going to pray that God (and the Secret Service) will protect him and his family from us white people. Second, I'm going to report to the FBI any white person I overhear saying, in seriousness or in jest, anything of a threatening nature about President Obama. Third, I'm going to pray to live long enough to see America surprise the world once again, when white people can "in spirit and in truth" sing of our damnable color prejudice, "We HAVE overcome." ************************************** It takes a Village to protect our President!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Manis says "it has been 40 years since America fixed its race problem." Yes, many of us were here and witnessed the exercise. The problem was and still is, not the "fixing" but what you are fixing. If your tire runs out of air and you happen to know something about cars and tires, you wouldn't be spending a minute fixing or adjusting a mirror or a front seat. You would be repairing the flat tire and if it is totally torn, you would be totally removing it and have it replaced. This is the problem with race relations and obsession with color in America. The "flat tire" is not people who look or think like me. Real people have no such idiotic problem. The "flat tire" is a whole bunch of people who, for lack of genuine education mistakenly think they are "white". Back in 1960, when I was playing school in Little Rock, Arkansas, at the time Bill Clinton was a youngster at Hot Spring High School and my nephew Barack Obama was a mere one month old in his mother's stomach, I chanced to meet face to face with a man who held a title of Governor of Arkansas. His name was Orval Faubus. The only reason he wanted to meet with "the famous exchange student" attending Philander Smith College was, I had said I had never met a "white man." At his office, the first question he asked me is what color he was. I immediately responded, he resembled more "pinkish" in color than "white". That brought rage and heal on earth in his office. I asked him what trick did he play to be elected Governor when he was so ignorant and incapable of telling the color white from pink? He immediately ordered his attorney general, Mr. Nash by then, to make sure I am dead by all necessary means. Three futile attempts later by assassins to my life, I was off to the White House, where my flight sponsor to the US was the President of the country. Well, if people who see themselves as "white" had any ability to acquire genuine knowledge, they would have not failed to notice, they played no role in choosing what the hew of their skin would be. When non-pinkish looking people were building pyramids in Africa, the pinkish-looking people were as yet to know how to make a brick or a fire, let alone, how to cook meat. When the non-pinkish people were mining and refining gold in Ghana, Southern Africa, Ethiopia, Meroe and Zimbabwe and taking a birth daily, the pinkish-looking people were as yet to learn what bronze was, let alone gold and were still faithfully waiting to take birth once a year, in the month of May to be exact. At least they remembered thus far. When the non-pinkish people were traveling allover the world from Africa to China and organizing people into dynasties and governments, the pinkish-looking people were nonentities and upstarts in almost every form of knowledge. Need we say more? Omika esinyala. The question therefore is, what makes some people who call themselves "white" think they are superior to all non-pinkish looking people? Wait just a minute; they may be superior in only one thing, stupidity. If it were not so, then why would anyone who is even one point above an idiot think being "half baked" makes one superior! Isn't it bono or bora, just to be human beings, men and women girls and boys than having this affixation with coloration of one's skin? Back in 1962, I used to wonder why one pinkish-looking very rich woman offered me such a large sum of money, just to induce me marry her pinkish-looking daughter! When I enquired why so much money, she was frank to tell me she was rewarding my intellectual prowess. Since I did not see why anyone should marry me because of my intellectual ability, I refused the money and marriage to her daughter, not necessarily in that order. I winded up marrying a non-pinkish looking girl from Asia. Thus, testifying I was not prejudiced against people who did not look like me. Now, we have three grown-up brilliant children---chocolate looking and I am not any poorer financially for refusing to accept that large sum of marital "bribe." There is certainly a solution to this pre-occupation with color in America. Let as many non-pinkish looking people marry as many pinkish looking women and produce chocolate looking future citizens. One hundred years from now, assuming, pinkish-looking people haven't destroyed themselves out of their lack of understanding what is important and what is not, there will be no color problem. Everyone will look like everyone else. They will speak the same languages as is now and there will be no enemies created out of color. In fact, the world will be populated with people who look like Tiger Wood, Barack Obama, Ludwig Van Beethoven, Socrates, Solomon and Jesus. There will be no more ugly-looking pinkish fellows like, you guessed it right, Ralph Limburger and half baked pinkish ignorant grandmas,you again guessed it right, Sara. If you do not know who Sara is, excuse my French, get a hell out of this planet. We are talking about Sara the Palinesian, stupid! Now that you know, we either collectively "become" and "be" men and women, boys and girls, or we inter-marry with all daughters of pinkish-looking people. Even if you are not offered a Million bucks as I was, marry them anyway. I can assure you, the happiest people on earth, I am told, will be daughters of pinkish-looking people. Compared to non-pinkish people, by circumstances known only to nature, daughters of pinkish-looking people prefer marriage to non-pinkish looking people, because, pinkish-looking people, excuse my Ebonics, can't do squat and those who can, spend too much time privately pontificating having their lucky time with Sally. If you are too ignorant to know this, how did we get the likes of Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Johnson, and a few others into the Oval Office? I guess some of the so-called "white" people have no idea that even the notorious J. Edgar Hoover was a non "white" person. Obama is a 16th cousin of Queen Elizabeth. Like other non-pinkish Presidents before him, he needs no "Village" protection, He is as American as was, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln and everyone else who has occupied and slept in that House called White. Thus, the greatest source of envy towards non-pink looking people is not the hue of their skin but their strength. What stupid woman would prefer a half man to a real man! That is the real problem. If you can't do squat, you will always find a reason to envy those are superior to you physically and mentally. If you regard yourself "white" or pink-looking, start immediately becoming just a human being, out-grow that color stupidity and not only will you think you are in heaven for the first time but nature will reward you more potency like you have never experienced in all your confused life of ignorance and agony. For the first time, you will be blessed with equal status to a non-pinkish person. 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Is this the way to go? 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URL: From naphtaliole at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 06:40:30 2010 From: naphtaliole at gmail.com (Naphtali Kiugu) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:40:30 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] CAP. 66 Of the Constitution of Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <000001cad4c4$dc89d720$959d8560$@com> Message-ID: If this kadhi courts are issue is causing headaches and sleepless nights to some citizens and we know unless something serious happens to remove it from the draft, then why don't they allow Christians and other religions to come up with theirs and put in the draft. You want a fair playing ground? then balance the equation and let others feel special and important like muslims want to be treated. 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URL: From jmwalulu at hotmail.com Tue Apr 6 08:28:58 2010 From: jmwalulu at hotmail.com (Jackson Mwalulu) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:28:58 +0000 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Contentious Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is the closest kenya has ever come to a new constitution. I guess that explains why the stakes appear to to be higher than ever before, hence the hulabaloo about kadhi and abortion. To be the devil's advocate: for the first time the church sees itself being outmaneuvered by Islam in a manner that could be final ( constitutionally). Talking with a few better didicated xtians than myself, i gather that they see this as a competition for the souls of kenyans between the two major religions. Who wants to go down as the loser? Am on record last year penning a piece in Nation dismissing the church's enthusiasm to block the whole katiba on the basis of kadh courts. I cited Section 66 of the current constitution and the Wako Draft Secrtion 195, as pointed by Makodingo. I was roundly attcked by xtians for promoting Islam in Kenya, and by Muslims for pleading with xtians to ignore kadhi as a small matter. An alleged Muslim accused me of belittling Islam! That is why we need to approach this matter most soberly and quit talking as if we are intimidating anyone to shift their positions. The danger we face is that we may say yes to the new katiba with so few votes we end up with an illegitimate constitution. That to me is riskier than the status quo. Remember there are other contentious issues like the limit to acrage of land one can have, the right of the disciplined forces to take to the streets... How, honestly, do we move from here? I like the new document because at least it devolves resources in a significant way ( to the constituencies and counties). For the first time the youth will not have to fclock to Nairobi in the name of job hunting. That makes it the majimbo clamour superflous. Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:43:57 +0300 Subject: [YP_Ke] Contentious Issues From: makodingo at gmail.com To: NVK-Mageuzi at yahoogroups.com; mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com For the avoidance of doubt, I am NOT a religious man. Can someone explain to me what has changed since 2005? Specifically, how has Cardinal Njue, Cannon Karanja and most of these religious leaders changed since then. The both of them are on record as having supported the Wako Draft... Yet the Wako Draft 'permitted' abortion through an act of parliament; and Kadhi's Courts... See below: Religious courts 195. (1) There are established Christian courts, Kadhi?s courts and Hindu courts. (2) Parliament may, by legislation, establish other religious courts. (3) Christian courts, Kadhi?s courts, Hindu courts and other religious courts shall respectively - (a) consist of Chief presiding officers, Chief Kadhi and such number of other presiding officers or Kadhis, all of whom profess the respective religious faith; and (b) be organized and administered, as may be prescribed by the respective Act of Parliament. (4) Christian courts, Kadhi?s courts, Hindu courts and other religious courts shall have jurisdiction to determine questions of their religious laws relating to personal status, marriage, divorce and matters consequential to divorce, inheritance and succession in proceedings in which all the parties profess the respective faith, as may be prescribed by an Act of Parliament. Right to life 35.(1) Every person has the right to life except as may be prescribed in an Act of Parliament. (2) The life of a person begins at conception. (3) Abortion is not permitted except as may be provided for by an Act of Parliament. -- Regards, Dr MAKODINGO Washington, BPharm,MPSK Registered Pharmacist, P O Box 60113 - 00200 Nairobi Mob: 0722 269 749/ 0736 974 339 "Just because it is, doesn't mean it should be" -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gachanjajamu at yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 08:31:12 2010 From: gachanjajamu at yahoo.com (james murithi) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 05:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: Daniel Arap Moi should leave Kenyans alone In-Reply-To: <994774.13143.qm@web55107.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <436518.91914.qm@web55106.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <60077.56640.qm@web31804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <905361.21517.qm@web35806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <994774.13143.qm@web55107.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <515540.97678.qm@web35802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Not that i like what he did. What am saying is that he has right to experess his opinion like any kenyan. expression of personal opinion does not imply that ever other person will buiy the idea. this exactly what am. doing. expressing my opinion and in case you don't like it, then no problem. Anyway we youths we need to work towards bring our country back to normacy. let us discuss ways in which we can solve our problems caused by poor governance and leadership. we bury our differences and put our efforts together for a common goal. kind regards ________________________________ From: henry ouma To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com Cc: gachanjajamu at yahoo.com Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 3:15:32 PM Subject: Re: Daniel Arap Moi should leave Kenyans alone Murithi, I firmly stand by my comment. Kenyans, especially the youth must prevail upon MOI to change his thinking. Infact future is for the youth not octagenerians who set bad precedent . ________________________________ From: james murithi To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 2:13:59 PM Subject: Re: Daniel Arap Moi should leave Kenyans alone i totally disagree with you opinion. Hon Rtd. President Moi is a Kenyan Citizen and has equal right to express his opinion like any other Kenya. so consider revising you comment. ________________________________ From: Andrew Kilonzi To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 1:29:42 PM Subject: Re: Daniel Arap Moi should leave Kenyans alone I am shoc ________________________________ From: henry ouma To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com; mlalahoi at googlegroups.com; Gabrielokumu at yahoo.com; "Geoangira1 at yahoo.com" Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 12:45:36 PM Subject: Daniel Arap Moi should leave Kenyans alone According to Kenyan media reports, one Arap Moi has shamelessly averred that he will vote against the proposed constitution-Presumably for reasons that : it's proposals on land issues are improper and that the constitution could allow abortion- both of his reasons are mis-interpretation / misreading of the relevant sections/clauses of the proposed constitution. As former President and elderly statesman, Moi could have led by urging Kenyans to support the proposed constitution and collectively seek to make well thoughout ammendments that are in best intrests of the Kenyan nation later. How does Arap Moi compare current constitution to the one proposed ? According to Moi, it could be held that he prefers the current constitution -in which president and his cronies could grab public land , president acting alone appoints bootlickers to cabinet, could manipulate electoral systems and rig himself in office , could use the police force to unleash terror to opponents, could use public office to corruptly acquire wealth and consign meritocracy to some dustbin, could stiffle independence of both legislature and Judiciary.As the proposed constitution enacts, all these cannot happen-so what good does Arap Moi look for in constitution ? Does Moi or those in his school of thought hope or nurture orgasmic dream to rule Kenya under the current laws ? Arap moi must have enjoyed ruling through a draconian constitutional dispensation that saw Kenya ruined politically and economically and seemingly, through his recent remarks has no apologies to make-Arap Moi has sons who should advice him that like former Presidents elsewhere , he needs to tone down-He should not evoke those sad memories that characterised his reign and that of his predecessor supported by the current constitutional dispensation. -- MANY VACANCIES: http://bit.ly/bROydQ TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE TRAINING VIDEOS; CISM / CISSP / MCTS / CISA / CCNA / CCNP / MCSE / MCITP and others, CALL 0726 034 530 Ebooks; Love Dare (from Fireproof) and over 1,000 others CALL 0726 034 530 -- MANY VACANCIES: http://bit.ly/bROydQ TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE TRAINING VIDEOS; CISM / CISSP / MCTS / CISA / CCNA / CCNP / MCSE / MCITP and others, CALL 0726 034 530 Ebooks; Love Dare (from Fireproof) and over 1,000 others CALL 0726 034 530 -- MANY VACANCIES: http://bit.ly/bROydQ TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE TRAINING VIDEOS; CISM / CISSP / MCTS / CISA / CCNA / CCNP / MCSE / MCITP and others, CALL 0726 034 530 Ebooks; Love Dare (from Fireproof) and over 1,000 others CALL 0726 034 530 -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.nyandoto at phsotey.fi Tue Apr 6 08:37:13 2010 From: paul.nyandoto at phsotey.fi (Paul Nyandoto) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:37:13 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts/answer to Caroline In-Reply-To: <937974.34415.qm@web31804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <350079.10919.qm@web56705.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <937974.34415.qm@web31804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BBB55290200004F00028BBB@vennamo.phks.fi> Caroline, That is the point we are trying to correct. We want to separate the state from religion. If All religions are given an opportunity to have their say it will be a mess. Do not forget that we are taking about Kenya, which is made up of 42 tribes plus some europeans and asians, americans, chinese etc. We want an all inclusive same governing system which is neutral and acceptable to all. If this kadhi court is left un corrected I do think that it is a very big injustice and also a mistake. And by allowing other religions to include their rituals is not the answer to this problem. Some religion are against divorce so it means that, if I am married to you and I feel like tired and want move on my own, then I will be left with only one choice, like breaking your skull, which is very painful. Because divorse is not allowed. Don`t you get it?. Kenyan is and will be sovereign state and we want keep it that way. Those kadhi courts entered our old constitution by mistake and by then our people were not even asked, never did they vote on what constitution they want. They were given the draft, finish, caput, finito. They either accepted it or they hang. But now we as kenyans for the first time we are making our own history. Infact every body is having a bone to pick with that constitution, even Ruto, Moi, Raila,christians,Kibaki, jews, hindus, atheist even Jimmy Kibaki etc. Nobody is against muslims, just as nobody is against atheist or christians. Muslims can continue with their kadhi courts as usual but not in the constitution document. Christains have their rituals, Jews too etc. Paul Nyandoto >>> CAROLINE ATIENO 4/6/2010 8:54 >>> Dear all I have a question to all the other religions, especially the Christians, say the Government decides to grant all religions courts; in the spirit of equality, do we have any courts like Christian courts that will rival the Kadhi courts? No two Christian denominations can sit and say we agree on this, Catholics allow drinking, Legio Maria allows poligamy, No boarding schools for Jehovah Witness, Saturday church for SDA, headscarfs for Akorinos and the list is endless. This will never work for Christians, so if the Muslims are organized and subscribe to the same beliefs, let them have their courts. Lesson learnt 'Unity is Strength'. My vote is a YES to the draft constitution. And for those opposing this constitution, other than Kadhis Courts and abortion, please let us hear more, maybe we may be converted. Kind regards Caroline --- On Mon, 4/5/10, kennedy waweru wrote: From: kennedy waweru Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Kadhi's courts To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 10:28 PM @random Some argue that the courts should be there because of the original agreement. If that is the case, then let's revert back to the exact agreement which only covered the coast region (10mile). Is that dishonouring really? Furthermore, excluding the kadhi's courts from the constitution and giving it the same treatment as any other religion does not prevent them from exercising their faith in any way. If there is any way they will be affected then let's hear them. Yes we borrowed from the west but not from the Bible. And even if we did, why then are we not putting Hindu courts, traditional courts and the like who would also be obviously affected?My question was this "How would the absence of Kadhi's courts in the constitution affect muslims from practicing their faith?" I am not throwing out any argument at all, but if it's doesn't hold water then i'd be wasting alot of time trying to do so. I've heard of people who quote and defend things which are not even in the constitution and the obvious medicine is for them to read the constitution and quit eating from the media. I hope i have answered some of your questions. @Kennedy In honourable debate you are expected analyse your opponents arguments fairly and exhaustively. A wave of the hand and wishing your opponents argument without showing that you understand and can demonstrate their flaws wont do. I do understand. But most of these arguments are not based on knowledge and facts. The obvious solution is for one to get their facts right instead of engaging in a debate that they know nothing about, or what they know is what one bias person/entity (media or politician of a person of a certain faith) has made them believe. In all humbleness I just ask for one to get their facts right and then engage in logical debate Here is why. You say "...I was just asking for a single logical reason why kadhi's courts should be selectively ingrained in the judicial system and maintained by taxpayers money" - (emphasis mine) You got two reasons. Your treatment of the first reason: In your words "...One argument put forth was that the constitution is based on neo-Christian principles borrowed from the west which is still far from the truth" - Huh? Did we not borrow our legal system from Great Britain? Yes we did. But the we still have room for hindus and traditions to hold in terms of personal law unless one wishes not to be held by them and hence invoke their right to be judged in a court of law. Isn't this what the kadhi's courts also deal with, personal law? Why then be treated differently? and this really is my original question. If they are treated like any other religious court where those who adhere to them, foot their bills and are judged there (like njuri ncheke for example) how would that prevent muslims from practicing their faith? However, In my opinion you are correct when you propose that our tax money should not be used to fund these courts. Their costs should be borne by the litigants. I agree completely Second point in your words "...the only reason I have is that kadhi's courts are there because of historical reasons (but even then they were restricted to the 10mile coastline, but have now broken out of the initial agreement and yet people don't see this.)" So then, you are suggesting one set of laws for the coastal strip and another for the rest of Kenya? Does this sound right? I am just saying that since many have claimed that this was there from the beginning, the truth is that they only covered the coastal strip and yet our fellow muslims from northeastern still survived with their kadhi courts only that they were not as deeply ingrained in the constitution. And by the way, tanzania still survives without kadhi courts in the constitution and yet muslims there still have their personal law taken care of within their religion. An honourable debater would have addressed the issue of reconstitution or bifurcation of Muslim dominated parts of Kenya from non-muslim parts of Kenya as one of the compromise options if the Kadhi's courts are to be removed from the constitution. There is no need to do this. The first question to answer is why do we expressly need this constitution to ingrain the kadhi's courts in the first place. If there is no reason then they should be treated like any other religion and believe me this will not affect their faith. Since I am a Christian, I have probably been dismissed as one who hates the muslims (same way if I wrote something in favour of Kibaki and I am a kikuyu, some would dismiss me based on tribe) but really that is not the case.There is already a historical precedent in the India/Pakistan case. In essence you are suggesting that as a Nation we should dishonour (to the contrary, to honor the agreement would mean reverting to the original agreement which in any case covered the coastal strip anyway) the commitment that was made to Muslims at independence that their way of life(I am challenging this belief that muslims way of life is protected by inclusion of kadhi's courts in the constitution. Is that really true? If it is, give me some examples of these things which they would be deprived of) and Kadhis courts would be guaranteed in the constitution. Is it in keeping with Christian values to dishonour commitments? No. it is not in keeping with Christian values, not at all. You have not addressed the issue and readers will have noted your conspicuous silence I hope i have now Just Random Notes On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 3:25 PM, kennedy waweru wrote: My friends, please hold your horses. Some people have left this forum and publicly announced it under claims that the people here were not capable of reasoning without abuse. Sadly, all indications point to it. There are many who hold different views in life but wisdom is always to try to be tolerant while reasoning out in love. My question was very simple. I never called for voting yes or no in the referendum. I have seen posts of some with very little knowledge on the issue and yet they have held a die-hard position and want to vehemently argue without seeing reason. Just to be clear again let me repeat A constitution is meant to treat all individuals fairly, religions included. It should not prevent a people of a certain belief from practicing as long as their belief does not affect others unwillingly. nevertheless, no religion should be seen to be favoured in any way in the eyes of the people unless explicitly taken as a state religion as in the case of some European countries especially in the Scandinavian or in the middle east as may be the case. With this in mind, I was just asking for a single logical reason why kadhi's courts should be selectively ingrained in the judicial system and maintained by taxpayers money? Bear in mind that our neighbors Tanzania don't have this provision and yet they live in peace with their muslim citizens. Bear in mind also that Muslims are not a minority in kenya, we have other belief systems smaller and yet they have their own courts which I am not forced to support through tax. Bear in mind that even though kadhi's courts are meant to cater for personal law (marriage, inheritance e.t.c) among muslims, we still have other courts operating within the law (njuri ncheke for instance, hindu courts) that are not supported by taxpayers money and neither expressly selectively put in the constitution and yet those who ascribe to them still live in peace and practice their faith. So, if a constitution is meant to be fair to all, why are kadhi's courts there? That was the only question I asked that have made people go after each others necks, making me wonder how different we are from those who did the same in 2007 due to lack of knowledge since they relied on their political leaders to feed them with knowledge. One argument put forth was that the constitution is based on neo-Christian principles borrowed from the west which is still far from the truth. in any case, the Hindus, traditionalists (dini ya msambwa and the like) would need to be ingrained in the constitution too. So far, the only reason I have is that kadhi's courts are there because of historical reasons (but even then they were restricted to the 10mile coastline, but have now broken out of the initial agreement and yet people don't see this.) If we were to use history to justify its inclusion then we would have to revert back to the exact agreement made then which is the courts to operate within the 10 miles. Does asking this question mean that I am against muslims???? Am not spoiling for a fight, neither asking for a certain vote; The question is simple, why do we need the Kadhi's courts to be given special treatment in the constitution?? I see people here arguing and calling others ignorant and yet their own arguments are without knowledge. Why don't we for once stop name calling and be better people who can agree to disagree and also who make decisions based on knowledge. 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5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 From akenzuki at yahoo.co.uk Tue Apr 6 08:53:34 2010 From: akenzuki at yahoo.co.uk (kennedy nzuki) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:53:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Wanted - Office to share Message-ID: <468456.83496.qm@web26307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Dear Team, I am looking for an office to share preferably in BuruBuru. 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From situmanyongesa at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 09:31:36 2010 From: situmanyongesa at gmail.com (joseph nyongesa) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 06:31:36 -0700 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Brooklyn is hunting for a HUBBY....... In-Reply-To: References: <486674.28039.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <918505679-1270037340-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-346948263-@bda618.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <481881872-1270162108-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-356129501-@bda618.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: @Muita, how do you know it was a sweet deal? Do you not know taht our imaginations play tricks on us...even to the causing of veins to swell thinking of anticipated goodness? Rule no. 1 in life, dont be presumptous. On 4/4/10, Muita Wangoko wrote: > > @Odhiambo, > > Even as you see this Nyongesa fella praising Brooks, he is bure > kabisa....have you ever been this close to crunch a sweet deal and just at > the brink of the moment you merely loose it? Ha! > > +--------------------------------------------------------------+ > Best Regards, > :Muita Wangoko: > > Life is transient; its joys are transitory; > its hours are fleeting > > +--------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 07:29, Kuria-Mwangi wrote: > >> Maurice, >> I can see it is still April 1 and so will wait until are in another >> dateline and then we can talk about this stuff. This is big. Looks like I am >> the only one >> who has been payukering and doing nothing on these fora. I will go slow >> from now on but lets talk after the fools day. >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:48 PM, wrote: >> >>> I have met someone on this forum someone I hope to have future with She >>> is such delight to talk to >>> >>> Courage >>> Maurice >>> >>> Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *Kuria-Mwangi >>> *Date: *Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:40:57 -0400 >>> *To: * >>> *Subject: *Re: [YP_Ke] Brooklyn is hunting for a HUBBY....... >>> >>> >>> Maurice, >>> I had assumed you are MBA (married but available). 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URL: From chemurwok at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 09:43:08 2010 From: chemurwok at gmail.com (sagongonyi chemurwok) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 16:43:08 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Daniel Arap Moi should leave Kenyans alone In-Reply-To: <436518.91914.qm@web55106.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <436518.91914.qm@web55106.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Henry, when Moi said in 2002 that we cannot have two centres of power, the current crop of politicians in leadership said it is possible. Kiraitu, Kituyi, Karua, Raila, Kibaki, etc were in the forefront selling to us the idea. NARC promised to give us the Bomas draft in 100 days if they were elected to office. Moi had mentioned something to do with constitutional experts to draft the constitution, he was told by the same guys that Wanjiku can draft the constitution. On taking over leadership, Narc told us that it is really not possible to have two centres of power. Michuki confessed that they had used this gimmick to have their own in power and since Kibaki had already succeeded, there was no need for a PM. The bomas draft was mutilated in Kilifi and we were told to vote for it. Moi refused as so many of us did refuse. Why do you want to judge Moi differently now? If Kibaki and NARC were honest, why did they not bring the Bomas draft to the refurendum? why have these politicians now realized it is not good to have a prime minister and a president with executive powers, something that Moi saw in 2002? why are we using the COE now instead of Wanjiku, something that Moi had proposed in 2001 and Kenyans refused to take his advise? Moi is a Kenyan and he has a right to take a stand in the draft constitution and you do not have to agree with his stand. Why did you not tell him to shut up in 2005 when he said he was going to vote NO? He has his reasons for saying NO and you have your reasons to saying YES. That is the essence of democracy, whoever carries the day in the end, we should rally together in that direction. On 4/6/10, henry ouma wrote: > > According to Kenyan media reports, one Arap Moi has shamelessly averred > that he will vote against the proposed constitution-Presumably for reasons > that : it's proposals on land issues are improper and that the > constitution could allow abortion- both of his reasons > are mis-interpretation / misreading of the relevant sections/clauses of the > proposed constitution. > > As former President and elderly statesman, Moi could have led by urging > Kenyans to support the proposed constitution and collectively seek to make > well thoughout ammendments that are in best intrests of the Kenyan nation > later. How does Arap Moi compare current constitution to the one proposed ? > > According to Moi, it could be held that he prefers the current constitution > -in which president and his cronies could grab public land , > president acting alone appoints bootlickers to cabinet, could manipulate > electoral systems and rig himself in office , could use the police force > to unleash terror to opponents, could use public office to corruptly > acquire wealth and consign meritocracy to some dustbin, could stiffle > independence of both legislature and Judiciary.As the proposed constitution > enacts, all these cannot happen-so what good does Arap Moi look for > in constitution ? > > Does Moi or those in his school of thought hope or nurture orgasmic dream > to rule Kenya under the current laws ? > > Arap moi must have enjoyed ruling through a draconian constitutional > dispensation that saw Kenya ruined politically and economically and > seemingly, through his recent remarks has no apologies to make-Arap Moi has > sons who should advice him that like former Presidents elsewhere , he needs > to tone down-He should not evoke those sad memories that characterised his > reign and that of his predecessor supported by the current constitutional > dispensation. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by > Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hi2kireen at yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 07:57:00 2010 From: hi2kireen at yahoo.com (maureen kinyanjui) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 04:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] CLAMSY CHICK In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <223077.86970.qm@web51902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Jectone, Maybe you should be serving this lady and cleaning up after her to avoid breakage of your stuff. Or better yet, buy plastic utensils for use when she is around. Or disposables. Hope this will help! Good luck......... Regards --- On Tue, 4/6/10, Sarah Khabereri wrote: From: Sarah Khabereri Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] CLAMSY CHICK To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 4:45 AM @ Jectone,? Sio kwa ubaya but, looooooooooooooooooooooool! Ahem! I'm sorry about your predicament. On 6 April 2010 14:24, Jectone Ndunya wrote: Now! there is this chick who , when she visits? iget worried of my glasses, spoons, sufurias etc. Yaani every thing she touches must fall, i have glasses and plates i 've used for like three years but with her major entry into my territory, within two days i had lost like half dozen of glasses. I now have to budget for others, some of which are no longer available in the market. What do i do? should i send her back to her parents for some basics before she pays me another visit?? She is not staying with me for your info. but just a visitor on call! 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URL: From hmumia at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 08:07:47 2010 From: hmumia at gmail.com (Harry) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:07:47 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - "ODM Bullied their way to power" In-Reply-To: <211773.72264.qm@web62502.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <211773.72264.qm@web62502.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: * P*eter Ngige, i want to put questions to you!! Now that you seem to believe that God wanted Kibaki to rule for two terms, i want to presume that we should just sit back and wait for Gods choice in 2012. Right? Did God know that the Post Election Violence would ensure after the midnight swearing in of Kibaki? Did God then, your God, have a hand in the killings of the 17 children in a church in Eldoret? Is your God that mindless of life? Did God then ensure that Kreigler would be alive? So that he does the Kreigler report? Am sure God also ensured that Okiya Omtata chains himself at the Police Head Quarters in protest. Okiya it wasn't you, it was Peters God who make you behave like that..... This God is really a schemer..this Peter Ngiges God..he ensured that Koffi Annan had a cold for three days when Kenya needed him badly. And God send Mkapa and Kuffuor in advance, as if he knew he had chosen the true mediator, in the name of Koffi. God should have signed the National Accord, together with Raila and Kibaki, since he had all these scheme of things under his finger. Did God plan that MPs would disagree in parliament so that the CoE draft didn't change? By the way what does God think of the abortion issue? Did God smile in heaven after he saw thousands misplaced? And without good cause? 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Electronic messages are not secure or error free and may contain viruses or may be delayed, and the sender is not liable for any of these occurrences ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------- "easy access to the world" From kopojunour at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 10:46:54 2010 From: kopojunour at gmail.com (Eric Kopondo) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:46:54 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] CLAMSY CHICK In-Reply-To: <543981.35437.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <543981.35437.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ficha masufuria na masahni ama umpatie zile vyombo za chuma ehhehe or u can order in ka pizza n tha like ehehhe boss unashida...... On 6 April 2010 14:24, Jectone Ndunya wrote: > Now! there is this chick who , when she visits iget worried of my > glasses, spoons, sufurias etc. > > Yaani every thing she touches must fall, i have glasses and plates i 've > used for like three years but with her major entry into my territory, within > two days i had lost like half dozen of glasses. > > I now have to budget for others, some of which are no longer available in > the market. > > What do i do? should i send her back to her parents for some basics before > she pays me another visit? She is not staying with me for your info. but > just a visitor on call! > > Heeeeeeelp!!! > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by > Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kwamwere at hotmail.com Tue Apr 6 11:32:17 2010 From: kwamwere at hotmail.com (Koigi wa Wamwere) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:32:17 +0000 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Dhamiri Ya Sauti Yasema La Kwa Katiba Mpya Message-ID: Dhamiri Ya Sauti Ya Mwananchi Inasema La Kwa Katiba Mpya Isiyosawazisha Watu, Tabaka, Wala Dini Ijapokuwa Dhamiri inaunga mkono dhana ya katiba mpya, hailii, bora katiba mpya. Inalilia katiba mpya bora. Ili tupate katiba mpya bora, nchi hii ilihitaji na bado inahitaji mjadala wa kitaifa utakaochangiwa na kila mwenye maoni kuhusu katiba mpya bila kubaguliwa au kupendelewa na vyombo vya habari ambavyo kwa sasa vimekataa kuruhusu mjadala wa wote kuhusu katiba mpya. Ili kupata katiba mpya bora, Dhamiri pia haina tashwishi kwamba Wakenya lazima watazame sio tu yaliyomo katika katiba mpya lakini pia yale ambayo hayamo. Dhamiri inasema hili kwa sababu inahisi, yaliyoachwa nje ya katiba mpya ni muhimu kuliko yaliyomo. Ili tuelewe katiba mpya, lazima tujiulize, ni nani walioiandika na waliiandikia nani? Kwa jumla, Dhamiri inaamini, ingawa kwa kutojua, maskini wataipigia kura, katiba mpya ni katiba ya matajiri sio ya mafukara ambao ndio wengi nchini na wanaostahili kuimiliki kwa mujibu wa utawala wa walio wengi. Ya kwamba katiba mpya haisheheni maslahi ya maskini linaonyeshwa vizuri na kibonzo au katuni ya gazeti la Nation, kinachoonyesha Yesu-Wanjiku ambaye ni maskini akibebeshwa msalaba wa katiba mpya huku akihimizwa aongeze kasi ya kwenda Golgotha au machinjioni yake na wabunge wanaobeba rungu, viongozi wa dini waliovalia misalaba, matajiri wenye nyuso za mbweha, wasomi na wafanyabiashara wanaobeba mapanga, mishale na bunduki zinazopiga risasi juu. Ajabu ni kwamba Wanjiku uyu huyu anaebeba msalaba wa katiba mpya ndiye atakayeipigia kura ianze kumnyanyasa na kumnyonya ili marais, mawaziri, magavana na wabunge walioongezeka mara kadha katika bunge la taifa, seneti na mabunge ya county wapate mishahara yao ya juu. Kwa bahati mbaya, unaweza kumpeleka ng?ombe mtoni, lakini huwezi kumlazimisha anyue maji. Dhamiri nayo inaweza kumtanadharisha Wanjiku juu ya hatari za katiba mpya, lakini haiwezi kumlazimisha aikatae. Kama katika nchi ya Israeli iliyoandikiwa katiba ya Amri Kumi za Mungu na Mungu mwenyewe huku akishirikisha Musa peke yake, kwa sababu ya utakatifu wake, katika Kenya, badala ya kuandikiwa katiba mpya na waliotakasika zaidi miongoni mwetu, tuliwapa walio wachafu zaidi watwandikie katiba mpya. Ya kwamba tunaandikiwa katiba na wabunge mafisadi, wakabila, madikteta na washukiwa wanaochunguzwa na Moreno Ocampo kwa kupanga na kufadhili vita na mauaji ya kimbari au genocide, kunaonyesha hatuithamini sana katiba mpya kama tunavyodai. Katika nchi zingine, watu walioandikia Kenya katiba mpya hawangeruhusiwa wakaribie au waiguse rasimu yake kwa hofu yakuitia najisi. Kuongeza chumvi kwenye kidonda, mafisadi wanaoandika katiba mpya ndio ao hao watakaojilipa mabilioni ya pesa za serikali ili mashirika yao, magazeti, radio na runinga zao zituletee elimu yakutukubalisha katiba hio. Nani hajui anayemlipa mpiga nzumari ndiye huchagua wimbo? Mradi katiba mpya iko mikononi ya mafisadi, yenyewe na elimu kuihusu, zote zitakuwa fisadi na potofu. Kweli Wakenya wanawezaje kutarajia katiba ya kuwaokoa kama inaandikwa na viongozi na wasomi fisadi, wale wale wanaowafisha na kuwazika mchana kweupe? Kama mti fisadi huzaa matunda fisadi, viongozi na wasomi fisadi nao wamezaa katiba fisadi. Kwa sababu watu walioandika katiba mpya, kiitikadi ni maadui wa maskini, kamwe katiba yao haibebi sura zinazoshughulikia matatizo ya umaskini, ukabila, ufisadi na ubepari unaotuzalia matatizo yetu yote. Kwa sababu ya kushughulikia tu ugavi wa mamlaka na rasilmali kati ya viongozi wa makabila tofauti, matajiri na wasomi, kabisa katiba hii haitoshi kuitwa katiba ya watu wote. Ni katiba ya viongozi wa makabila, matajiri na wasomi. Ingawa wengine wanasema, tupitishe katiba mpya ili tuanze kuandikia maskini katiba yao, Dhamiri inaamini, vile si busara kuweka kizuizi barabarani ndio upite, si busara kuipitisha katiba ya matajiri ili baadaye tuanze harakati za kuandikia maskini katiba yao. Linalofaa sasa ni kuua katiba ya matajiri ikiwa bado tumboni ili tutunge mimba ya katiba ya maskini. Vile wahenga walisema fahali wawili hawakai zizi moja, nayo nchi moja haiwezi kutawaliwa na katiba mbili, ya maskini na matajiri. Vile katiba ya sasa ni katiba ya matajiri, hatuwezi kuibadilisha na katiba mpya ya matajiri tena. Hekima ni kuibadilisha katiba ya matajiri na katiba ya maskini. Kama nyenzo ya kutumalizia matatizo, katiba mpya lazima iwe ramani yakututoa kutoka lindi la umaskini wetu, itupeleke Kanaani ya maendeleo ya kila mtu. Lakini kama ramani ya kutuonyesha njia, katiba mpya lazima iwe katiba ya kanuni sio katiba ya maslahi ya makundi yenye pesa na kura. Kutupeleka Kanaani, katiba mpya lazima iangaziwe njia na kanuni za kidemokrasia na utawala bora zinazotambulika kote duniani. Kama katiba mpya sio ya kanuni, haiwezi kuwa ramani ya kutufikisha kwenye maendeleo na demokrasia kamili. Kwa mujibu wa falsafa hii, katiba mpya inasema Kenya haitakuwa na dini ya nchi au serikali, na dini zote zitakuwa ni sawa mbele ya katiba na sheria zake. Hata hivyo katiba mpya inazikiuka kanuni hizi kwa kuchukua Uislamu kati ya dini zote na kuihifadhi. Wakristo na wanademokrasia wakiuliza kwa nini Uislamu ukitwe katika katiba mpya, tunaambiwa kwanza tuipitishe ikiwa na mahakama ya kadhi, baadaye tuombe Mahakama Kuu yayaondoe kutoka katiba. Lakini huu ni unafiki na hila, kwani ni rahisi kutoyaweka mahakama ya kadhi katika katiba mpya sasa, kuliko kuyatoa baadaye. Pili inasemwa, hata kama inakiuka kanuni ya usawa wa dini kuyaweka mahakama ya kadhi katika katiba, tuendelee kuyaweka katika katiba kwa sababu yamekuweko katika katiba ya sasa kwa miaka 47 tangu uhuru na hayajamdhuru yeyote. Kwa Dhamiri, ubishi huu ni sawa na kusema, kwa vile mtu ameishi na saratani au kansa ilalayo bila kuuma kwa miaka 47, hakuna haja ya kuitoa, daktari akiigundua. Mwenye kutetea saratani ya kulala iendelee kuwemo mwilini mwake, ni mtu asiyejali kufa au kupona. Tatu inasemwa hata Wakristo wakiikataa katiba mpya hawatahepa mahakama ya kadhi kwa sababu bado yapo katika katiba ya sasa. Lakini Wakristo wakifaulu kuishinda katiba mpya kwa sababu ya mahakama ya kadhi, watatumia ushindi uo huo kuyang?oa mahakama hayo kutoka kwa katiba ya sasa. Watu gani wataishinda katiba mpya kwa sababu ya mahakama ya kadhi na wayanyamazie katika katiba ya sasa? Isitoshe, kusema kwa sababu katiba ya sasa ina mahakama ya kadhi kwa hivyo tuyaweke katika katiba mpya ni kusema kasoro zote katika katiba ya sasa pia zihifadhiwe katika katiba mpya. Kwa nini basi tunaandika katiba mpya kama sio kumaliza kasoro zote za katiba ya sasa? Nne, tunajua wabunge wakabila walishindwa kukita majimbo makubwa au regions katika katiba mpya. Lakini hawakushindwa kabisa. Walifaulu kupata counties ambazo ni majimbo madogo yatakayokuwa na magavana na mabunge yao madogo na bunge kubwa la seneti la kuhifadhi himaya za makabila. Kama katika Nigeria ambako majimbo yake ya kwanza matatu yaliitwa ya kiutawala na sio ya kikabila, lakini baadaye yakazalishwa ili yapatie makabila 36 majimbo yao, hata majimbo ya katiba mpya 47, hatimaye yatazalishwa kupatia makabila ya Kuria, Teso, West Pokot na mengine majimbo yao. Jini la majimbo likitoka kwenye chupa, halitarudi ndani mpaka limeangamiza utaifa kabisa. Tunaoishi na uhanga wa majimbo hatuwezi kuyakubali majimbo ya katiba mpya, yawe madogo namna gani au yaitwe kwa jina gani lingine. Hapa ieleweke kwamba kupinga mahakama ya kadhi kuwekwa katika katiba mpya si kupinga yawemo nje ya katiba. Lakini yawemo chini ya sheria ya bunge kama vile dini zingine. Ivyo hivyo kupinga kuwemo kwa mahakama ya kadhi katika katiba, sio kuwa adui wa Uislamu. Lengo la kutoa mahakama ya kadhi katika katiba ni kujengea dini zote usawa dhidi ya ubaguzi na mapendeleo. Anayewapenda Waislamu ni anayezuia wasipendelewe au wabaguliwe. Ivyo hivyo anayewapenda watu wa dini zingine ni yule anayezuia wasipendelewe au wabaguliwe. Kama mahakama ya kadhi, katika katiba mpya, swala la kuavya mimba linasukumwa na utashi wa kupata kura kutoka kwa wanawake wasomi kuliko linavyofahamishwa na kanuni muhimu ya kuhifadhi uhai wa watu wote na hasa wanyonge na watoto tumboni ambao hawana uwezo wa kujilinda na kwa hivyo sharti walindwe na katiba. Kwa mujibu huu, inashangaza kwamba katiba mpya inasema ni haramu kuavya mimba, na wakati uo huo inapatia bunge uwezo, baadaye kubatilisha kanuni ya kuhifadhia kila mtu uhai. Dhamiri inasikitika kwamba wanasiasa wanaoomba kura za urais wanaogopa kusimamia ukweli na kanuni za uongozi bora, na badala yake kutetea maslahi ya makundi yenye kura, kama vile wanawake wasomi na Waislamu, kwa hofu ya kunyimwa kura na makundi yanayopigania maslahi yao katika katiba mpya kuliko yanavyojali ukweli na usawa. Ajabu zaidi ni kwamba, ingawa wanaogopa kunyimwa kura na Waislamu au wanawake wasomi, wagombea urais Wakristo hawaogopi kunyimwa kura na Wakristo wenzao kwa sababu tu, Wakristo hawa wanatoka makabila yao na wamezoea kuwapa kura kiupofu. La mwisho, Dhamiri inauliza kama kweli kuna muda wa kufanyia rasimu mabadiliko yanaodaiwa na wengi, au lazima tuipitishe na kasoro zake zote kwa kukosa muda? Hapa tunasahau, haraka haraka haina baraka na ukiona mtu anakuharakisha ufanye kitu, anatafuta kukurubuni au kukutapeli. Ukweli ni kwamba, mradi katiba mpya haijapigiwa kura ya uamuzi, kuna muda wa kuibadilisha. Katiba ya kudumu karne si kitu ambacho, watu wanaweza kulazimishiwa na watu wengine kama nchi ina uhuru na demokrasia ya kweli. Kwa sasa bunge linalia kwamba haliwezi kuongeza muda wa masikilizano ati kwa sababu limefungwa mikono na sheria lisifungue rasimu tena mpaka ipigiwe kura na kuwa katiba mpya. Lakini sheria gani hii inayotushinikizia udikteta wakutoweza kuikarabati au kuisahihisha ramani ambayo, ikituelekeza vibaya, itatupeleka Jehanamu badala ya Kanaani? Si Yesu alisema mtu hakuumbwa atumikie sheria, sheria ndiyo huundwa itumikie mtu? Kwa nini tusiweze kubadilisha sheria inayotukataza tuwe na katiba tunayotaka, hata kama tuna dakika moja tu ya kufanya hivyo? Hii inaonekana kama ni haraka ya wafanyabiashara laghai wanaotuharakisha tusaini katiba haramu, haraka iwezekanavyo, huku wakijua mara tu tumeipiga muhuri, tutakuwa tumejifunga na hatutaweza kurudi nyuma. Mwisho, makanisa yanaambiwa yasipinge katiba mpya kama yalivyowasaliti Wakenya mwakani wa 2005 na 2007. Wanaopiga kelele hizi zaidi ni vyombo vya habari na hasa magazeti yale yale yaliyoungana na wanasiasa kuwasha moto wa kikabila tulio ona ukiteketeza nyoyo za Wakenya maskini. Kama katika Rwanda, kando na wanasiasa, nani mwingine alihubiri chuki za kikabila zaidi ya vyombo vya habari vinavyoyalaumu makanisa sasa? Inasikitisha kuona vyombo vya habari vikitupia makanisa mawe kama vyenyewe maasumu. Ama kweli, nyani haoni kundule. Tamati, Dhamiri inataka kujua, tusipoweza kubadilisha katiba isiyozaliwa bado, tutawezaje kuibadilisha baada ya kuzaliwa na mifupa yake kuwa migumu? Tunapoandika katika mpya, hatuwezi kuruhusu giza liongoze mwanga. Mara ya mwisho tulipigia katiba mpya kura, Wakenya walisema, bendera ifuate upepo. Sasa, watahadhari kabla ya hatari. 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URL: From Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com Tue Apr 6 12:21:27 2010 From: Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com (Dickens Odhiambo) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:21:27 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] Kenyatta's son joins Shake The Tree Movement Message-ID: Askofu Kurias, Have you joined this Movement yet? http://www.glw4president.com/index1/index.php?option=com_content&view=sectio n&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=73 A political movement started by Kenyans in the Diaspora is sweeping like a fire across the United States, Europe and East Africa. Shake The Tree Movement is the bandwagon that a Kenyan law professor, George Wajackoyah is using as a platform to prepare for the 2012 Kenyan general elections in which he plans to stand for President. In an exclusive interview while on his Meet The People World Tour in London, Prof Wajackoyah claims his organization has already been joined by Kenyan politicians including the son of the late Kenyan President Jomo Kenyatta, Mr Uhuru Muigai Kenyatta who is the current leader of Kenya's biggest political party, the Kenya African National Union (KANU). He is also the country's Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance. Sylvester Bifwoli, Kenya's assistant Minister of Lands has also joined the movement that now says it has support among Kenyan university students."We are asking everybody to climb the tree and if the people of Kenya shake it and they are able to hold on to its branches, then they are in. If they fall off the tree, they will not be part of us." Prof Wajackoyah said. Below is the full interview. From wams2006 at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 20:40:21 2010 From: wams2006 at gmail.com (Margaret Gichuki) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:40:21 -0700 Subject: [Jambo] [africa-oped] Re: [KOL] Kenyatta's son joins Shake The Tree Movement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What does '' in heaven you will be in a good way''. And does the surgery take place under the' bukusu'' mugumo tree? oh my ribs hurt vibaya sana! Good Rev, the presidential scene is getting crowded with 2 yrs to go but in the programme.)));;;......I mean the presidential and not the one advertised below . Wams for President. On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Kuria-Mwangi wrote: > > > Odhis, > This will be my last on this tree shaking thing by Wajackoyah. Kumbe the > term tree has another meaning also in Bukusuland. If I were you, I would > keep off Wajackoyah tree shaking project especially in Bukusuland. They use > power saw there to cut trees:). > > Now we need help in stopping the use of the power saw in cutting trees:) > > [image: http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7497/circum.jpg] > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Kuria-Mwangi wrote: > >> Odhis, >> This is the first time the man of the cloth is hearing about the shake the >> tree movement. Uhuru of all the >> people? Wajackoyah would have received a big boost if he got Uhuru on his >> shaking of trees. >> >> Please tell Prof. Wajackoyah to look for another name for his movement >> especially if he wants to get votes from Mt. Kenya region. The >> name for penis is tree (muti) and so you can imagine how folks, especially >> women from Kikuyuland will perceive this shaking of trees movement. Only two >> trees are shaken in Central. One is the mango tree for harvesting mangoes. >> We dont talk about shaking the other tree in public. >> >> Did Prof. Wajackoya go to school or teach in KU? He sounds familiar to me >> but what is worrying me is that during his days in KU, somebody did a >> graffiti in the urinal located in Cinema Hall. It read thus: >> >> Shake well after use. You are holding the future in your hands. >> >> I doubt Wangari Mathai will like his shake the trees movement for obvious >> reasons. Hii movement ya upuzi. >> >> Kuria >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Dickens Odhiambo < >> Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Askofu Kurias, >>> Have you joined this Movement yet? >>> >>> >>> http://www.glw4president.com/index1/index.php?option=com_content&view=sectio >>> n&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=73 >>> >>> A political movement started by Kenyans in the Diaspora is sweeping like >>> a >>> fire across the United States, Europe and East Africa. Shake The Tree >>> Movement is the bandwagon that a Kenyan law professor, George Wajackoyah >>> is >>> using as a platform to prepare for the 2012 Kenyan general elections in >>> which he plans to stand for President. >>> >>> In an exclusive interview while on his Meet The People World Tour in >>> London, >>> Prof Wajackoyah claims his organization has already been joined by Kenyan >>> politicians including the son of the late Kenyan President Jomo Kenyatta, >>> Mr >>> Uhuru Muigai Kenyatta who is the current leader of Kenya's biggest >>> political >>> party, the Kenya African National Union (KANU). He is also the country's >>> Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance. Sylvester Bifwoli, Kenya's >>> assistant Minister of Lands has also joined the movement that now says it >>> has support among Kenyan university students."We are asking everybody to >>> climb the tree and if the people of Kenya shake it and they are able to >>> hold >>> on to its branches, then they are in. If they fall off the tree, they >>> will >>> not be part of us." Prof Wajackoyah said. Below is the full interview. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pmbugguss at yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 02:48:03 2010 From: pmbugguss at yahoo.com (Peter Ngige) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 23:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - "ODM Bullied their way to power" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <211773.72264.qm@web62502.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Dear all, ? In every game, there has to be a winner, for those who love soccer it does not mean that you are a winner because of the ball possession, what matters is the goals scored at the last whisle. ? If Nithi votes were rigged in ubakos favour, on the other side Eldoret north's voter turnout?was 110%, in favour of Raila. What happened is, voting was done, riggging was accross the board & finally Kibaki emerged the winner. ? This is because no matter what, God knew even before Kibaki was born that he will become that Prezo of Kenya for two terms & that it?doesn't matter how it happens or who is opposing him, because even if all of us did not vote for him, God's vote would have seen him back?to power again. ? Peter? --- On Thu, 4/1/10, musa muigai wrote: From: musa muigai Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - "ODM Bullied their way to power" To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 6:47 AM Dear all, Other than voting whoever you voted, i am sure we cannot tell exactly what happened there after.All i know is something went wrong somewhere period. Lets avoid unnecessary talks,that is past tense lets work towards building a better tomorrow. Ok my dear Kenyans? God bless. Moses On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Shadrack Kirunga wrote: Guys, this is the wrong place for this debate because all of us have secondary information. From what we are seeing in the petitions, there was massive rigging in the elections from all sides. We simply cant tell who won, including the MPs who sit in parliament today. Can we leave this debate and move on please? >>> Emillio Karega 4/1/2010 3:08 PM >>> Harry, Facts are facts. Kibaki won the election according to the Constitution and Laws of Kenya. Any other claim is bogus, emotional and delusional. Karua has been Karua; she has stuck to facts and as someone said "facts are sacred." why did some members of ODM claim that Raila NEVER won the Presidential Election? On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:08 PM, isaiah githinji wrote: Harry, Just to get a balanced view on this issue, please educate me. 1. Was the allegation from Isaac Ruto in a public rally that ODM never won the election true? 2. What were the recommendations and report of Kriegler commission. 3. There were areas that reported over 90% voter turn out. Do you believe in over 90% turnout in an election? --- On Thu, 4/1/10, jane maurine gati wrote: From: jane maurine gati Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: Martha Kaura - "ODM Bullied their way to power" To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com Cc: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com, "Harrison Mumia N" Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 12:09 AM Harry, "Wembe ni ule ule " On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Harry wrote: Dear All, Fortunately for where i work, there is a TV on 6th floor and i got a chance to go to the TV room and catch up with Parliamentary Proceedings of yesterday. One thing that captured my attention is when Isaac Ruto, the fiery Chepalungu MP stood up to state that PNU stole the elections. This was during the debate on devolution, tabled by Orengo. Well, just to update you, and it was also shown on KTN prime at 9, Martha Karua stood on a point of order and asked the chair whether it was in order for the Chepalungu MP to suggest this when he had said that Kibaki won the elections in a public rally. She also said that ODM bullied their way to power. Has Martha Karua really changed? She still believes PNU won fair and Square? She still feels we needed to go to court? After Justice Evans Gicheru swore in the president? Has she really changed since resigning as Justice Minister? I doubt!! -- PLEASE MPESA /ZAP KSH 1,000 to +254 726 034 530 to ADVERTISE HERE VACANCIES: http://www.myafricancareer.net/ http://www.facebook.com/myafricancareer FREE CLASSIFIEDS ADS: http://bit.ly/aZbpFV TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR SHOP ONLINE AND GET DOOR DELIVERY: http://bit.ly/cwzi78 You are subscribed to the Google Groups "MlalaHoi" group. 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Come, network & grow professionally. -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- Countdown----TODAY. ? Hi YP in Mombasa, ? Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) ? Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". ? Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. ? -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- Countdown----TODAY. ? Hi YP in Mombasa, ? Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) ? Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". ? Come with FRIENDS!!!! Come, network & grow professionally. ? -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- Countdown----TODAY. ? Hi YP in Mombasa, ? Just a reminder, we will be having our meeting TODAY (31st march 2010) ? Venue - Sumerlink hotel Date - 31st march 2010 Time - 5.30pm to 7.30pm Main agenda - Talk, THE X FACTOR-"How to stand out in a market saturated with degrees by: Dr Karim Omedo". ? Come with FRIENDS!!!! 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Jackie ________________________________ From: josephine Ndambuki To: lyp-mombasa at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com; christinemaore at securitygroupke.com; josephat_matei at yahoo.com; dansonmwakuwova at yahoo.com; stevechichi at yahoo.com; aakiny at kcb.co.ke; elphase at equinetkenya.com; mwanga at gmail.com; leen2018 at gmail.com; lilmabonga at gmail.com; omidex at gmail.com Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 1:02:16 PM Subject: Lyp-Mombasa PAINT A School project: the day is finally here!! hallo good people, Thanks for your participation and generous contributions towards this project. We are having ameeting tomorrow? (wednesday 7th april 2010 ) to polish up on all matters pending as we gear on the painting day on sat 10th april 2010 we will meet in the usual venue, summerlink hotel at the rooftop restaurant. from 6:00pm on the DOT, let us come and finish the work that we started. and for those still awaiting to contribute, this is your chance!!!!!!! ? -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- YLYP-Mombasa- Paint a school Project. Event: To give a face lift to MM shar primary school near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls ? Date: April 10th 2010 ? Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. ? For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 ? To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 ? 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URL: From abraham.mwololo at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 12:44:09 2010 From: abraham.mwololo at gmail.com (Abraham Mwololo) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 19:44:09 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Jesus Converts Water into Wine -- ** Did it have to be Wine?** In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Harry, I dont know where you are coming from cause it seems like you are responding to a stated view, but I would like focus on Jesus' relationship with his mother. While there is nowhere in the bible where the grown up Jesus agrees with his mother, there are several instances where he disagrees with his mother and even goes as far as disregarding the authority of parents. Now, before anyone goes for my neck and accuses me of being unbiblical, I would like us to keep this discussion strictly Gospel. On 4/6/10, Harry wrote: > My Good Friends, > > When the feast of tabernacles was nigh, a certain rich man invited Jesus > with his disciples and his mother to a marriage. Jesus therefore went, and > as they were feasting the wine ran short. His mother accosted Jesus, saying: > 'They have no wine.' Jesus answered: 'What is that to me, mother mine?' His > mother commanded the servants that whatever Jesus should command > them they should obey. There were there six vessels for water according to > the custom of Israel to purify themselves for prayer. > > Jesus said: 'Fill these vessels with water.' The servants did so. Jesus said > unto them: 'In the name of God, give to drink unto them that are feasting.' > The servants thereupon bare unto the master of the ceremonies, who rebuked > the attendants saying: 'O worthless servants why have ye kept the better > wine till now?' For he knew nothing of all that Jesus had done. > > The servants answered: 'O sir, there is here a holy man of God, for he hath > made of water, wine.' *The master of the ceremonies thought that the > servants were drunken;* but they that were sitting near to Jesus, having > seen the whole matter, rose from the table and paid him reverence, saying: > 'Verily thou art an holy one of God, a true prophet sent to us from God!' > > > Notice that this was during a wedding, and the wine had ran short. What i > want to bring to your attention is the phrase where the master of ceremonies > thought that the *servants were drunk*. This implies that the wine was > supposed to make the people drunk. And this happens normally in social > places, drinks ran out and we are waiting for more. And notice the question > form the MC, *why have you kept this wine till now?* > > > Jesus here comes out as someone who understood that drinking alcohol is nor > fundamentally wrong!! He basically has no problem with drinking alcohol. > > > Otherwise he should have converted the water into some juice, soft drink of > that time or something. > > > Why have we been duped to think that Alcohol and Wine are unchristian? They > are even good for our health..... > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim > Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda > Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, > Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by > Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > -- Sent from my mobile device -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 From georgemboya at yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 17:27:19 2010 From: georgemboya at yahoo.com (George mboya) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Daniel Arap Moi should leave Kenyans alone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <116175.73628.qm@web54106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Sagongonyi, I like your defence of Moi. However, I do not see why you do not understand Moi all these years. If I were to award a medal to him, it would be that of selfishness. Moi is the No.1 selfish Kenyan a live. I do not want to dwell on the wrongs Moi did cos in 24 years he had to have committed some. BUT do not tell us anything about Moi again regarding good governance and decision making. He is the man who singlehandedly almost brought this country to its knees and laughed over it. We still feel the aftershocks and failures of Moi era. Look at the infratsructural development in the last few years - You cant equate it to the Moi's 24yrs! and many more. We respect elders and ought to do so and Moi should also respect this country and just keep his failed wisdom to himself. Let him also accept that there are other Kenyans who can do it albeit differently. Saa ya baba na mama ilikwisha. People like you who want to remind us of Moi are trying to forcefully exhume a stinking and already buried dead to the amazement of all. However, Moi has a right like any other Kenyan to contribute to any issue at hand. I strongly think though, that his failures as President irredemably reduced his credibility and those of his ideas to an extent I doubt many people trust him. Only when it is dark enough can you see the stars!! --- On Tue, 4/6/10, sagongonyi chemurwok wrote: From: sagongonyi chemurwok Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Daniel Arap Moi should leave Kenyans alone To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 4:43 PM Henry, when Moi said in 2002 that we cannot have two centres of power, the current crop of politicians in leadership said it is possible. Kiraitu, Kituyi, Karua, Raila, Kibaki, etc were in the forefront selling to us the idea. NARC promised to give us the Bomas draft in 100 days if they were elected to office. Moi had mentioned something to do with constitutional experts to draft the constitution, he was told by the same guys that Wanjiku can draft the constitution. On taking over leadership, Narc told us that it is really not possible to have two centres of power. Michuki confessed that they had used this gimmick to have their own in power and since Kibaki had already succeeded, there was no need for a PM. The bomas draft was mutilated in Kilifi and we were told to vote for it. Moi refused as so many of us did refuse. Why do you want to judge Moi differently now? If Kibaki and NARC were honest, why did they not bring the Bomas draft to the refurendum? why have these politicians now realized it is not good to have a prime minister and a president with executive powers, something that Moi saw in 2002? why are we using the COE now instead of Wanjiku, something that Moi had proposed in 2001 and Kenyans refused to take his advise? Moi is a Kenyan and he has a right to take a stand in the draft constitution and you do not have to agree with his stand. Why did you not tell him to shut up in 2005 when he said he was going to vote NO? He has his reasons for saying NO and you have your reasons to saying YES. That is the essence of democracy, whoever carries the day in the end, we should rally together in that direction. On 4/6/10, henry ouma wrote: According to Kenyan media reports, one Arap Moi has shamelessly averred that he will vote against the proposed?constitution-Presumably for reasons that : it's proposals on land?issues are improper and that the constitution?could allow abortion-?both of his reasons are?mis-interpretation / misreading of the relevant sections/clauses of the proposed constitution. ? As former President and?elderly statesman,?Moi could have led by urging Kenyans to support the proposed constitution and collectively seek to make well thoughout ammendments that are in best intrests of the Kenyan nation later. How does Arap Moi compare current constitution to the one proposed ? ?? According to Moi, it could be held that he prefers the current constitution -in which president and?his cronies could grab public land , president?acting alone?appoints bootlickers?to cabinet, could manipulate electoral systems and rig himself? in office?, could use the police force to unleash terror to opponents, could?use public office to corruptly acquire wealth and consign meritocracy to some dustbin, could stiffle independence of both legislature and Judiciary.As?the proposed constitution enacts, all these cannot happen-so what good does Arap Moi look for in?constitution ? ? Does Moi? or those in his school of thought hope or?nurture orgasmic?dream to rule Kenya under the current laws?? ? ? Arap moi must have enjoyed ruling?through?a?draconian constitutional dispensation that saw Kenya ruined politically and economically and seemingly, through his recent remarks has no apologies to make-Arap Moi has sons who should advice him that like former Presidents elsewhere?, he needs to tone down-He should not evoke those sad memories??that?characterised his reign and that of his predecessor supported by the current constitutional dispensation. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano ? 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URL: From orinaonka at yahoo.com Tue Apr 6 19:47:49 2010 From: orinaonka at yahoo.com (orina Nyamwamu) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 16:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA In-Reply-To: <257072.46043.qm@web31407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <654069.62163.qm@web111715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Dear Colleagues, friends and compatriots, Let us now prepare and vote YES for the Proposed Constitution at the Referendum. Let us not give room to propaganda about the Kadhi courts and the controversy around emergency abortion. The principles are now Ok lets vote and move Kenya forward. The greater work lies ahead and if we were to spend too much time squabbling over a sound constitution we will lose sight of why the new democratic constitution. This consitution is a means to an end, a vehicle for a journey.. more importantly an agreement on how we shall live together. So let us move forward. Cyprian Nyamwamu --- On Mon, 4/5/10, odhiambo okecth wrote: From: odhiambo okecth Subject: [YP_Ke] PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA To: "progressiveminds" , "siasa" , "Standard" , "Watchman" Cc: "Standard" , "Sunday Express News" , "Young Kenyan" , youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com, "John M Gitu Youth Affairs" Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 11:38 AM --- On Mon, 4/5/10, odhiambo okecth wrote: From: odhiambo okecth Subject: Re: [ProgressiveMinds] PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA To: "Okiya Omtatah" , ProgressiveMinds at yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 3:18 AM Happy Easter Migosi Okiya and Team. I have read the content of your Press Statement and as much as I do not agree with what you have stated, I will not demonize your right to say it. I will defend your rights to saying what you are saying to the hilt. The only area I have problems with is the use of words. Words can be so confusing and antagonizing. I bet you should have the right to saying what you are saying without antagonizing others who are of the contrary opinion. If I believe that it is time to enact a new constitution despite the existence of the Kadhi's Court in the proposal, it does not mean that I have a 'prejudiced, speculative, one-dimensional and narrow analysis of the Church?s position'. I could as well be very right in my analysis and you be the one who is wrong. Church leaders represent a very important constituency. True, and I agree with you. But did you see how the same Church leaders who represent a very important constituency behave in 2005, and again in 2007? What are the indications that they have changed? The Reverend Cannon Peter Karanja went ahead and apologized for the sins of omission from the church but soon, he was back on the airwaves preaching hatred and disharmony; calling some people moribund and some, ineffective. A Man of God indeed! To many of us Christians, we are on our own, and the Church leaders have taken to serving their own interests and not that of Christ who died to save all mankind from sin. I for one will not listen to them. They talk not for Christ and they talk not for me. They talk for themselves and their interests. But if they can change and truly start preaching the ideals of Peace, National Healing and Reconciliation, I will be the first to be in tow. But as for now, they speak not for me, and I believe, they speak not for many Kenyans. And this we will confirm soon when Kenyans will troop to the ballot to vote for the Proposed Constitution at the Referendum. If I was one of them, I would not have dared to take this stand that confronts the intelligence of Kenyans. If you go to church, you never hear any inspiring messages of hope, reconcilaition, peace and harmony. You are left to wonder, where did inspirational peachers go to? Are these the times that Christ talked about; that many will come and preach in my name? False Prophets? Kenya belongs to all of us; Christians, Atheists, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and all. As we drive our country forward, I would appreciate initiatives that will tend to unite us some more as one people. I would appreciate if we all preached unity of our people, where Muslims do not call me an Infidel just simply on account of my being a none Muslim; where Christians join hands to embrace Muslims and not fight the issue of Kadhi's Court which is very irrelevant to our lives; where Hindus embrace all other races and live with them and not hive off zones exclussively for themselves. I would appreciate Press Statements clothed in words that do not impute improper motives on those with opposing views. We are all very intelligent. Let us correct any mistakes by acknowledging that the opposing view is as informed as the proposing view. Odhiambo T Oketch,CEO KCDN Nairobi,Tel; 0724 365 557,Email; komarockswatch at yahoo.comBlog; http://kcdnkomarockswatch.blogspot.comBlog group; friendsofkcdn at yahoogroups.com --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Okiya Omtatah Okoiti wrote: From: Okiya Omtatah Okoiti Subject: [ProgressiveMinds] PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF KENYA To: "Okiya Omtatah" Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 2:35 AM ? PRESS STATEMENT Church leaders should emulate God who does not destroy the righteous along with the wicked ? We acknowledge that today?s Kenya, and the one anticipated in the Proposed Constitution of Kenya, is not a secular State but a religiously neutral one. The Kenyan State is supposed to treat all religions as equals; never to favour or be hostile to any religious beliefs. ? Therefore, we call upon all those condemning church leaders for raising fundamental questions about the Proposed Constitution of Kenya to immediately stop crossing the legitimate lines of criticism. Rambling onto the slippery surface of irrational exuberance is largely indistinguishable from open hostility to the Church. Their prejudiced, speculative, one-dimensional and narrow analysis of the Church?s position is purposefully based on wilful distortions of the issues at hand. ? Church leaders represent an important constituency and the issues they are raising are fundamental. To ask Christians to make a choice between the Church and the draft constitution is to ask them to make a false choice. There is no choice between the draft constitution and the church since the constitution of the Republic belongs equally to all Kenyans, irrespective of their race, creed, ethnicity, class, station or status. ? >From the days of the apostles, church leaders have the unique authority passing on the faith and applying the teaching of Christ to the circumstances of the day. They have a responsibility to foster among the faithful those actions that promote holiness and are in accord with the Gospel, as well as a duty to condemn those actions which are incompatible with their teaching. ? And because it belongs to the Church always and everywhere to announce moral principles, even about the social order, and to render judgment concerning any human affairs insofar as the fundamental rights of the person or the salvation of souls requires it, church leaders have both a right and a duty to guide their flock. ? We also condemn all those politicians and commentators who have tried to rubbish the position of the Church, as untenable, arguing that if they reject the proposed constitution we will still go back to the current one which has Kadhis courts in them. ? The Kadhi?s Courts are in the current constitution as a historical mistake, waiting to be corrected. They are not a good. But if they go into the new constitution their status changes fundamentally because they will be there by the universal supreme mandate of the sovereign Kenyan people. Hence, their substance will change from illegitimate to legitimate even though their form as courts subordinate to the High Court will remain. That is why the Church would rather they remain as a mistake than that they be elevated to the sovereign wish of the Kenya people. ? We should recognize that the Committee of Experts introduced, or failed to ferret out, many policy issues that belong to the legislative not to the constitutive process. The Constitution is supposed to be about broad principles. It was wrong to use the Constitution to legislate on abortion, on the Kadhis courts, on military rights, and on similar policy issues. All policy issues belong to Parliamentary legislation. Putting them in the Constitution has put us in a situation where a largely very good document is threatened with justified rejection. ? ? But is rejection the way to resolve this dilemma where a document that is overwhelmingly good is contaminated by evil? We call upon church leaders to reconsider their decision to reject the document because of the few mistakes it contains. Scripture has a very clear way forward. God is always patient and caring in the face of evil. Perfect is never the enemy of good. God does not destroy the good along with evil. He engages strategically. God never destroys the good even as he fights evil. God is a smart fighter; he never causes collateral damage. Otherwise, He would have destroyed the world because of the sin of humankind that stinks to high heaven. But because of the little good that there is, His Divine Mercy spares us all, giving us a chance to repent and make good our iniquities. ? In Genesis 18:16-33 Abraham pleads with God not to destroy the city of Sodom for the sake of the few good people there. Abraham asks God: ?Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?? And God agrees to spare the whole city for the sake initially of 50 righteous then 45, 40, 30, 20, and, finally the Lord said: ?I will not destroy it for the sake of ten.? Eventually God saves righteous Lot and his family before He destroys Sodom . ? The main theme of the Gospel according to St. Matthew is division and judgment. Evil people are separated and destroyed as the holy are saved. In the parable of Wheat and weeds (Matthew 13:24?30) Jesus teaches through a parable, about a man who sowed good seed in his field, but while people slept, his enemy came and sowed weeds also among the wheat, and went away. But when the blade sprang up and brought forth fruit, then the weed appeared also. The servants wanted to go and pull them up but the master refused, saying: 'because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.' " ? Instead of rejecting the Proposed Constitution of Kenya, church leaders should reject verbal assurances and demand that President Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga lead MPs into signing a post-referendum memorandum of understanding that immediately the new constitution is ratified they will embark on amendments to remove all offending clauses. For this will be a sure way of giving Kenyans a new constitution but not the simple way of dismissing the church concerns as dismal and parochial. ? Signed: Neto Agostinho - 0722-467-365??????????? ?????????????????? ????????? 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This is the day on which it becomes clear that the sun has begun returning to the north from its southernmost reach that is marked by the Tropic of Capricorn. Its return heralds the new year: it is the birth of the new year's sun. The winter solstice, the day the sun reaches its southernmost limit - seeming to be so low in elevation to people in the north - is on 21st/22nd December but the return becomes clear on or about the 25th of December. The ancients preferred to place the birth of their saviors on this day: thus the rebirth of the sun became the birth of the SON. For a long time people saw their creator in the sun and revered that celestial body so much that they appeared to worship it. Free movement of people in the ancient world ensured the transporting and exchange of theological ideas. Cults would come and die, only to be replaced by others that recognised the same day and had their cult character born on that day. The small cult that was Christianity got a boost when the Roman Emperor, Constantine, ascended to power in 312 with the help of its cult members who fought on his side when he was struggling for power against other princes. He made that cult the official religion of his vast empire, setting the stage for the outlawing of all other cults plus the previous state religion based on the Isis Divinity which included Horus and Osiris as Jesus figures and the Nile spirit Hapi. The composite below Isis was at the time called Serapis (combining Osiris/Horus and Hapi). The formerly illegal Christian cult, now patronised by the state, got space and grew in leaps and bounds into what we know today as a world movement, thanks to the initial incident of political and military struggle between Roman princes where the lucky cult had backed the eventual winner. In 336 the church adopted Christmas, the birthday of Osiris, then called something close to Osirmooso or Osirmas, "Osiris the baby" and renamed it Christmas, perhaps Christ the Baby? This way the movement managed to seal pockets of remnant cults that had kept Osirmas alive, celebrating it with vigour on this day. Many western Christians, knowing this fact (of "pagan" origin), have now and again tried to abolish Christmas but it has become impossible: it is a day of immense appeal and the whole world just loves it. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. 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URL: From josekamanthe at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 23:48:04 2010 From: josekamanthe at gmail.com (josekamanthe at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 03:48:04 +0000 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] RE: Lyp-Mombasa PAINT A School project: 20k received!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <4bbc0080.1c365e0a.6703.ffffd9ad@mx.google.com> Hallo, am still encouraging us to continue honoring our pledges. Please send the contributions by mpesa to jacky on -----Original Message----- From: Jackie Sent: 06/04/2010 11:15:34 pm To: lyp-mombasa at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com; christinemaore at securitygroupke.com; josephat_matei at yahoo.com; dansonmwakuwova at yahoo.com; stevechichi at yahoo.com; aakiny at kcb.co.ke; elphase at equinetkenya.com; mwanga at gmail.com; leen2018 at gmail.com; lilmabonga at gmail.com; omidex at gmail.com Subject: Lyp-Mombasa PAINT A School project: 20k received!!!!!!!!! Hi Lyps... The amount received so far is 20k...thanks alot to those who have contributed.. Ben Nyuguto- 1000 Josephine Kamanthe- 1000 Rueben Shuma- 1000 Ben Nzibo-500 Francis Chege- 2000 Joy Mwangi-2000 Dan Nyutu-1000 Jackie Mureithi- 1000 Dommie- 1000 James-1000 Evelyn- 1000 Purity - 1000 Judy Matu- 1000 Sally- 1000 Jessie Kezengwa- 1000 Regards, Jacque.. Jes allen Kam Regards, ? Jackie ________________________________ From: josephine Ndambuki To: lyp-mombasa at googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com; christinemaore at securitygroupke.com; josephat_matei at yahoo.com; dansonmwakuwova at yahoo.com; stevechichi at yahoo.com; aakiny at kcb.co.ke; elphase at equinetkenya.com; mwanga at gmail.com; leen2018 at gmail.com; lilmabonga at gmail.com; omidex at gmail.com Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 1:02:16 PM Subject: Lyp-Mombasa PAINT A School project: the day is finally here!! hallo good people, Thanks for your participation and generous contributions towards this project. We are having ameeting tomorrow? (wednesday 7th april 2010 ) to polish up on all matters pending as we gear on the painting day on sat 10th april 2010 we will meet in the usual venue, summerlink hotel at the rooftop restaurant. from 6:00pm on the DOT, let us come and finish the work that we started. and for those still awaiting to contribute, this is your chance!!!!!!! ? -- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- YLYP-Mombasa- Paint a school Project. Event: To give a face lift to MM shar primary school near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls ? Date: April 10th 2010 ? Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. ? For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 ? To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 ? Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe -- YLYP-Mombasa- Paint a school Project. Event: To give a face lift to MM shar primary school near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 From mwaracn_08 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 01:02:07 2010 From: mwaracn_08 at yahoo.com (catherine njiiri) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] business on sale-Moi avenue Message-ID: <409810.41537.qm@web53603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi all, A friend of mine is? selling her business (ladies clothes) along Moi Avenue, Nebo Exhibition. 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URL: From oldmoshi at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 03:11:59 2010 From: oldmoshi at gmail.com (Yona Maro) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:11:59 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] African confidential Magazine - 2 April 2010 Message-ID: A report explaining how Africa has lost more than US$850 billion between 1970 and 2008 in illicit financial flows ? mainly through corporate tax evasion, trade mispricing and overpriced supply contracts ? suggests that long-standing debates over the merits of foreign aid are wrongly directed. Illicit outflows from Africa, orchestrated by international companies and corrupt officials, have run at well over double the levels of foreign aid sent to Africa from rich countries, according to the report from Washington-based Global Financial Integrity. The authors, including former IMF economist Dev Kar, suggest Africa?s illicit outflows from 1970 to 2008 could total as much as $1.8 trillion if transfer pricing schemes and mispricing of the trade in services with Africa are taken into account. Africa?s biggest economies were worst hit: Nigeria was reckoned to have lost $89.5 bn., Egypt $70 bn., Algeria $25.7 bn., Morocco $25 bn. and South Africa $24.9 bn. Private businesses organise most of the outflow but government agencies fail to staunch it. The proceeds of commercial tax evasion account for about 65% of the losses, drug trafficking and counterfeiting for about 30%, and bribery and theft involving state officials for about 3%. The report raises policy questions for the World Bank, which launched its own detailed study (financed by Norway) into capital flight. 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The cuttings resemble a cross 4. *chapati kifagio*- this is where a chapati is sliced into thin many vertical strips 5. *chapati chafua*- this is where a chapati is sliced into many pieces as possible. Usually they are sliced into squares that are approximately 3.5 centimeteres squared (do the math) 6. *chapati mbao/ chapati mawe* - this is a dry chapati, those that break easily like a piece of wood 7. *ugali saucer/ wembe/discount*- that one i know you know 8. *ugali mlima*- this is an enourmous chunk of ugali served only to proffessionals and is usually served with a warning. "ukikosa kuimaliza, utaongeza kumi". 9. *Tumbukiz*a - this is where meat is overboiled until the meat is very soft. Usually served without salt. Tumbukiza special has no bones 10. *kahawa kifo*- so you have done kahawa chungu! This is worse. It usually contains lots of "kahawa no 1" and is overboiled till its black. its then served without sugar. Its literrally burnt coffee 11. *kaa ndani-* this is where a mandazi is made an incision at the side and a delicacy inserted inside of it. So kaa ndani ya sausage is a mandazi with a sausage in it. 12. *jembe ya meno-* toothpick 13. *samaki cassette*- this is fish which has bones in it. Its served whole whereby a person starts eating it on one side( side A ). Once done, its then turned to the other side (side B). A successful completed eating mission is certified once the only thing left on the plate are intact bones of the fish and the head. 14. *karara-* chapati nusu 15. *combat*- githeri 16. *mix/ missile / kadhalika*- this is mchanganyiko of everything on the soup menu. Involves madondo, sukuma, nyama, ndengu etc. Na inasemwa na style, so dont go ati nipatie missile 20! It goes like "haya, hebu nibonde na chapo mix ya kaufourty, na ikuje chapchap kabla niachwe na ndege" 17. *teargas*- pilipili -- Daniel Nyutu Strategy Consultant Strategic Leadership Center International Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100 Nairobi, Kenya. 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URL: From omtatah at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 03:45:28 2010 From: omtatah at yahoo.com (Okiya Omtatah Okoiti) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:45:28 +0100 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: [KOL] Re: The KEJUDE take on Kadhi courts, Abortion debate Message-ID: @ Ndugu Bob-K, You ask: Where does the bible support constitution making or better still politics? A constitution is simply checks and balances to achieve a good. hence, Creation itself is constituted when the all-powerful spirit creates matter and saw that all was good. The Universe (or is it a multiverse as some argue) has its own constitution. The garden of Eden had a "primitive" constitution and Ten Commandments too are a form of Constitution. Order is a nature of God. @ Ndugu Cyprian: I thanks you for agreeing that it is fallacious to argue against people and not their ideas. We should and we will argue issues. We will stop chest thumping on our tiny chests coz we are in the presence of giant mountain gorillas who can do a better thump on their mammoth chests. And by the way, I have encountered though characters on these listserves: for a living some sell wild dogs, others charm venomous snakes, and yet others are paid very well just to keep the peace. They are all equal as Kenyans and we need their votes. The dog seller and a professor of law each have just one vote at the referendum. We can't afford to antagonise anyone if we want to pass the proposed constitution with the resounding mandate it requires. The reason I asked you to re-read our statement was that, largely, you were basically repeating what we had said. On abortion, I think we have a near meeting of minds. Our position is that, being a policy issue, it doesn't belong in the constitution. The Committee of Experts should have stood their ground and locked it out. In the current laws it is in the Medical Act and in subsequent codes of conduct developed to guide Kenyan doctors who face these challenges in real life unlike we to whom the issue is largely academic. Interestingly, the threshold is higher - it requires the opinion of two INDEPENDENT physicians to terminate a pregnancy. I am pro-life, which I understand to mean that I am opposed to abortion on demand. On the Kadhis courts, our stand is that Muslims have a legitimate problem, however, the solution on the table is the wrong one. Being an institution on the periphery, the Kadhis are a tool of marginalisation that ensures Islamic law is kept in a corner somewhere, separated from the mainstream. To you it is an affirmative action intervention because Kenyan society is ordered and organised to favour Christians. I agree society is skewed in our favour. But are Kadhis courts an effective affirmative action intervention when all the higher courts have no provision for litigation based on Islamic law? How effective are they when appeals to their ruling are heard and determined in the High Court under English Law? Are they not a tool for fraud? How effective are they when they are so few and far apart? In my hometown Busia, the nearest Kadhi is in Kisumu, yet we have a magistrate's court in Busia Town. Even in Nairobi they are not in the city centre but tucked away in an inaccessible joint in Upper Hill, near the world bank offices. The area is not served by public transport. What justice is there in that? Why are they not at the High Court, or at Milimani, Kibera, Makadara, etc? Then they carry a distinctly religious tag that "othernises" them, to a point where the magistrate/judge (kadhi) must be a Muslim - not just an officer of State competent in Islamic law. Some people find this religious tag extremely offensive, and feel justified to wage war against them because they interpret it to mean that Islam is being treated like the state religion. This only polarises society! Our proposal is that the right solution to the very legitimate concerns of Muslims is to mainstream them. At 30% of the population they are just to significant a group to require affirmative action. Muslims are not a minority whichever way we look at it. They have every right to play at the centre not to be kept at the periphery. That's why we feel that we revise the syllabi of our law schools to also teach Islamic law. Then we must also require that all magistrates and judges in Kenya are well versed in Islamic law. That way, all courts will be accessible to the Muslims who choose to be heard under Islamic law. So the Muslims in Busia will simply be served by the local magistrate who will hear them under Islamic law because Islamic law will be part of the laws of Kenya and applicable in all courts. That way we will have no reason for peripheral separate courts. Your affirmative action proposal can be used as a bridging measure during the transition of say 10 years. But even then, the Kadhis Courts will be established by an Act of Parliament, not by the Constitution. Even in Zanzibar where they originated from in East Africa, they are established by an Act of Parliament not the Constitution. Why do we want to put them in our Constitution? I hope the other point that they were a mistake is also explained. Finally, like them or hate them, we must remove the threat the opposition by some church leaders poses. A fight with the church leadership will be ill-advised at this time when we need everybody's vote to pass the Proposed Constitution. The churchmen not only have a strong constituency that pays to listen to them, they will also provide the perfect platform for organising to the powerful nefarious forces opposed to the new order that they know will render them irrelevant/useless... I would love to hear your and other people's proposal on how this can be done. We proposed a pre-referendum MoU addressing the post-referendum scenarios of amending the constitution once it is approved at the ballot. Bro, I agree with you that it is easier to amend a document that secures largely what Kenyans wanted than it is to do the entire document all over again. God bless. Omtatah ________________________________ From: Kuria-Mwangi To: kenyaonline at yahoogroups.com Cc: Kenya Forum ; Mlalahoi ; KCA Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 6:13:01 PM Subject: Re: [KOL] Re: The KEJUDE take on Kadhi courts, Abortion debate Migosi Bob-K, I am not sure if Omtatah in particular will agree with you. On another note, why are some people complaining of our new constitution when Zambians are singing praises to us and the new katiba? As we continue arguing on whether to vote yes or no, other folks thinks ours is most progressive document on the land. Lets vote YES for the katiba and then work on areas which needs to be reworked later. We have a beautiful piece of legislation. I have the katiba on my prayer list and want the hurts of the Michukis, Njues, Mois and others to be changed so that we can have a new constitution this year. Kuria Can Zambia emulate Kenya? By Trevor Sumumba The Kenyan Parliament has just passed a Draft Constitution that is one of the progressive in Africa. This has come after much political debate and civil strife. The Kenyan people should rightly be very proud of reaching this point in their drive for change. The draft constitution passed by Parliament on Thursday will change the face of Kenya by introducing the most far-reaching institutional reforms the nation has seen since independence. If a majority of voters say ?Yes? at the referendum, Kenyans will have a Government in which the powers of the President will be severely limited, women?s rights are guaranteed and systems of land use and management radically changed to ensure equity. The Constitution will overhaul the Judiciary, restructure the police force and write into law the socio-economic rights of all individuals as part of a Bill of Rights. In the new Kenyan Constitution, MPs will pay taxes, the number of ministers will be reduced by half and voters will be able to recall MPs who fail to discharge their duties properly. This is great news for Africa as a whole as no longer can Governments claim lack of examples of countries that have successfully changed their constitutions. Can Zambia do the same? Do we have political and national leaders in this country of the calibre of Raila Odinga, Kibaki himself, Amos Wako, Kalonzo Musyoka and all the other opposition and ruling party Members of Parliament who debated and voted based on principle and not on partisan cadre basis. Under the new constitutional order, the President will find his powers to exercise political patronage severely diminished. The Cabinet will be composed of a minimum of 14 ministers (to be named Cabinet Secretaries) and a maximum of 24. This will translate into savings for taxpayers, who will no longer have to pay the salaries and perks of a government such as the current grand coalition, which at formation included 40 ministers and 52 assistant ministers. (Source: Daily Nation Newspaper, Kenya) The position of assistant ministers will be history under the new constitutional order as will that of prime minister. Does our current crop of parliamentarians and Executive have the courage to do a similar thing? One wonders. How long will this NCC continue to deliberate and gobble billions of tax payers money? The Mungomba Draft Constitution covered a lot of ground already but we have had this NCC sit for years debating non-issues rather than ensuring that fundamental issues are dealt with like reducing the powers of the Presidency. Kenya has really shown it is the ?Pride of Africa? and should be commended for this achievement. More importantly, civil society, the media and the religious bodies in Kenya played a critical positive role in this whole process and did not wage war against the process. They ensured that ordinary citizens? views were incorporated in this new law. Now once the constitution is in place, the politicians can go back to competing on the basis of ideas and policy issues rather than on regional tribal politics which Zambia seems to be moving towards. It is hoped the success of Kenya can shame the Zambian politicians into action. On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Mr. wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > >Migosi Mwangi > >>The two characters below should know religion has nothing to do with politics. World governments are under the influence of Satan and will not be part of new kingdom of God after Armageddon. Where does the bible support constitution making or better still politics? > >>Bob-K > >>--- In kenyaonline at yahoogroups.com, Kuria-Mwangi wrote: >>> >>> Wanaume ni kuonana. Didnt want you to miss this emerging war. >>> >>> Kuria >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Okiya Omtatah Okoiti wrote: > >>> >>> > Ndugu Cyprian, >>> > >>> > Hope u had a lovely Easter. >>> > >>> > I am surprised at your extremely and offensively patronising response that >>> > has degenerated this whole debate to be about you; it is NOT! It is Kenya, >>> > not you, not John Cardinal Njue, not Neto, not Omtatah, etc who are central >>> > to this debate. So I don't see the need for posting our embellished CVs on >>> > this forum. And it matters not whether you are more Catholic than the pope. >>> > Fact is, YOU ARE NOT THE POPE! Nevertheless, who we are is not as important >>> > as what we say, so there is no need to doubt yourself so loudly by falling >>> > over yourself to state how important you are. Please cut the crap out of >>> > your attempt at eloquent poetry and just state your points in broken prose. >>> > But before you do that, please re-read our statement and make common sense >>> > not wild statements about our message. >>> > >>> > Church leaders have issues the draft constitution. What evidence do you >>> > have that the Church leaders are driven by ill-motive? >>> > >>> > By the way, Kenya cannot be secular when it refers to God and involves God >>> > in its public affairs, including holding national days of prayer and >>> > invoking God's name in the Constitution. >>> > >>> > May be it would also help if you recognise that Bomas is not everybody's >>> > sacred text on the constitution - to me it read like an NGO proposal in many >>> > parts... People learn and change - and a lot has happened since Bomas. >>> > >>> > Let's look at ways to make all come onboard. The referendum is about >>> > numbers and nothing else. >>> > >>> > Finally, a little humility will go a long way. My brother, let others sing >>> > your praises. Don't praise yourself - lest you do so in the presence of >>> > those who are greater than yourself, (and I am sure there are many on this >>> > listserve)..... even scripture advises us as much. >>> > >>> > Otherwise have a lovely evening. >>> > >>> > God bless. >>> > >>> > Omtatah >>> > ------------------------------ > >> > *From:* orina Nyamwamu >>> > *To:* mlalahoi at googlegroups.com > >>> > *Sent:* Tue, April 6, 2010 12:50:26 PM >>> > *Subject:* The KEJUDE take on Kadhi courts, Abortion debate >>> > >>> > Kadhi courts and abortion >>> > >>> > April 6, 2010 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I am a policy and governance strategist by training. And I have been in the >>> > school of legal and political theory for sometime. Working at NCEC for >>> > several years has offered me a massive opportunity to engage with the >>> > constitution making process as initiators, gardener and now midwife. I have >>> > read the statement issued by KEJUDE's officials led by Neto and Omtatah >>> > (here under) with keenness. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > In constitution making there is a significant distinction between >>> > constitutional principle and political choice. In the case of the KEJUDE >>> > press statement, I see matters of political choice being presented as >>> > matters of constitutional principle. The arguments they make here about the >>> > Kadhi courts and the issues of Article 26 (4) on arbortion are not arguments >>> > that go to the base of constitution principle but float to the top of >>> > political choice. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > First of all KEJUDE asserts that Christians are being asked to chose >>> > between the constitution and the church. This is unfortunate and untrue. >>> > There is only one focus of this debate which is: Has the Proposed >>> > constitution offered the necessary constitutional principles as regards the >>> > right to life and access to justice that meets the democratic approval of >>> > the many? That is the question. Neto and Omtatah know that I am Catholic and >>> > this Easter Sunday I was at My Holy Family Basilica church when John >>> > Cardinal Njue stepped into this very subject on the constitution as regards >>> > abortion and the Kadhi courts. John Cardinal Njue is not the church and >>> > therefore his views and those of bishops may not be equated to a choice for >>> > Christians. The choice at the referendum is on the PC. No one is >>> > dismissing church leaders; we are debating with them because they do not >>> > have the monopoly on philosophy and of knowledge. It is they who are >>> > dismissing constitutional experts with the palm of their hand. The church >>> > leaders are engaged in propaganda for political ends and that is dangerous. >>> > Let me state here that I do not like the approach taken by Hon. Raila >>> > Odinga; that although there are some mistakes that can be rectified in >>> > future, we should still vote YES for the Proposed constitution. My position >>> > is that the Proposed Constitution (PC) should receive a YES vote because it >>> > has provided for all the constitutional principles that Kenyans demanded for >>> > in a democratic constitution. Issues of political choice must not be >>> > confused with matters of constitutional principles. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > First of all we have stated for a long seven years now since Bomas that the >>> > political choice to retain the institution of the Kadhi courts in the >>> > constitution is important since we Christians already have a legal system >>> > that recognizes our institution of marriage, divorce, inheritance and such >>> > other matters of personal law. When Omtatah chooses to divorce (and God >>> > forbid) he does not go to his priest to get the divorce proceedings there >>> > (although it is the priest who solemnized the wedding), instead he goes to >>> > court where then lawyers applying the law press their case. Muslims will >>> > find themselves deprived of a judicial institution to canvass these matters >>> > if the Kadhis courts were removed based on what Christians are arrogantly >>> > calling "being paid for by the tax payers money". >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The KEJUDE entry point of the state is religiously neutral is equally >>> > false. Our is secular state originates its laws info rmed by the traditions >>> > of many civilizations including Judeo-Christianity, islam, neoliberalism, >>> > Ubuntu (that is how community land has been recognized). Sourcing laws from >>> > various religious and non religious traditions does not make a state >>> > religiously neutral. It only gains legitimacy from many sources knowledge >>> > and value systems. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > For instance, We Christians have 112 days granted to us by the state for >>> > our worship. On top we Catholics are granted Good Friday, Easter Monday, >>> > Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Year Day to continue to celebrate the >>> > Birth of Christ, the Death of Christ, and the resurrection of Christ. With >>> > seven million workers and each with 8 hours of work taken off multiply by >>> > 116 at an average of Kshs. 50 an hour =6.496 b hours =Kshs. 324.8 b annually >>> > that is not produced because the labour force takes up 1/3 of the working >>> > days off. All of these days are laid to rest courtesy of the character of >>> > our state; a largely Judeo Christian state in character. Note that Muslims >>> > are never granted Friday as an holiday. They break off for lunch-hour >>> > prayers and come back to work. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > *Action:* the provision for the Kadhi courts is consistent with the >>> > constitutional principle on access to justice and it is a judicial matter >>> > that originates from Islamic legal system and does not offend in any way the >>> > constitution as a whole: Because no one as shown the nation how granting >>> > Muslims the recognition of Kadhi's courts for their private *civil*personal matters becomes an issue that must be put on the list of things >>> > that must go after the referendum. What is the really argument in terms of >>> > constitutional principle as regards equality?? There is none. I will be >>> > telling my priests and bishops that they are plunging into divisive issues >>> > because they are politically correct with the majority of the voters in >>> > Kenya rather than any plausible grounds in principle. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On the matter of the provisions on abortion, Omtatah and Neto brothers; I >>> > was at Bomas. This matter was never a constitutional issue until John >>> > Cardinal Njue (then Bishop) and Bishop Sulumeti brought this matter to the >>> > floor of the Conference. My official status of observer gave me a great >>> > opportunity to record what was happening in all the tents and therefore I am >>> > well grounded on this. Again constitutions generally provided for the right >>> > to life in principle what happens to those who take away the lives of >>> > others. When the issue of defining when life begins and ends was introduced >>> > we knew we were headed for a long night on the operation table. It is this >>> > inclusion that became problematic and therefore compelled drafters to search >>> > for how to deal with real life situation where abortions have to be >>> > procured. Hence the inclusion of the provisions that abortion may be >>> > procured where the life of the mother is endangered, if the conception is >>> > through rape etc. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I write this with sadness because what the CoE has provided is the proper >>> > way to provide for difficult subjects that have found themselves politically >>> > pushed to the constitution. A constitution can not just provide that >>> > "abortion is illegal". Full stop. No! >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The constitutional principle is the one on the right to life. Let no one go >>> > beyond this line because then you introduce non principles but matters of >>> > political choice which are of policy in nature and vary from time to time >>> > and will need legislation. The discussion on the right to life is broad. It >>> > introduces issues of death penalty, Euthanasia, abortion, death through >>> > neglect by the state etc and it actually goes to the very discussion of the >>> > reason for establishing the state. so it is always safe to provide for the >>> > principle and the institutions which may progressively and daily process >>> > these matters that touch on the right to life- Including parliament, the >>> > judiciary, commissions, the administration etc. >>> > >>> > *Action:* either maintains the provisions as are in the Proposed >>> > Constitution or delete all the provisions that touch on abortion and when >>> > life begins and ends. Once you introduce details of when life begins and >>> > ends, and try to legislate on abortion in the constitution then one has to >>> > live with the provisions of detail that are now in the Proposed >>> > constitution. So then we are back to the conclusion, the Proposed >>> > constitution covers every one and there are no mistakes in the provisions. >>> > The provisions are rational. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I am now coming to the realization that before MY Bishops meet this month >>> > to discuss the way forward on the referendum on the constitution, I need to >>> > write to the Secretary of the KEC to request him to advise the Bishops > >> > accordingly so that they do not in fact engage in ill- info rmed debates. >>> > >>> > >>> > Cyprian Nyamwamu >>> > >>> > Here now is >>> > >>> > The KEJUDE STATEMENT >>> > >>> > *PRESS STATEMENT* >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > *Church leaders should emulate God who **does not destroy the righteous** >>> > **along with the wicked * >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > We acknowledge* *that today's Kenya*, *and the one anticipated in the >>> > Proposed Constitution of Kenya, is not a secular State but a religiously >>> > neutral one. The Kenyan State is supposed to treat all religions as equals; >>> > never to favour or be hostile to any religious beliefs. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Therefore, we call upon all those condemning church leaders for raising >>> > fundamental questions about the Proposed Constitution of Kenya to >>> > immediately stop crossing the legitimate lines of criticism. Rambling onto >>> > the slippery surface of irrational exuberance is largely indistinguishable >>> > from open hostility to the Church. Their prejudiced, speculative, >>> > one-dimensional and narrow analysis of the Church's position is purposefully >>> > based on wilful distortions of the issues at hand. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Church leaders represent an important constituency and the issues they are >>> > raising are fundamental. To ask Christians to make a choice between the >>> > Church and the draft constitution is to ask them to make a false choice. >>> > There is no choice between the draft constitution and the church since the >>> > constitution of the Republic belongs equally to all Kenyans, irrespective of >>> > their race, creed, ethnicity, class, station or status. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From the days of the apostles, church leaders have the unique authority >>> > passing on the faith and applying the teaching of Christ to the >>> > circumstances of the day. They have a responsibility to foster among the >>> > faithful those actions that promote holiness and are in accord with the >>> > Gospel, as well as a duty to condemn those actions which are incompatible >>> > with their teaching. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > And because it belongs to the Church always and everywhere to announce >>> > moral principles, even about the social order, and to render judgment >>> > concerning any human affairs insofar as the fundamental rights of the >>> > person or the salvation of souls requires it, church leaders have both a >>> > right and a duty to guide their flock. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > We also condemn all those politicians and commentators who have tried to >>> > rubbish the position of the Church, as untenable, arguing that if they >>> > reject the proposed constitution we will still go back to the current one >>> > which has Kadhis courts in them. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The Kadhi's Courts are in the current constitution as a historical mistake, >>> > waiting to be corrected. They are not a good. But if they go into the new >>> > constitution their status changes fundamentally because they will be there >>> > by the universal supreme mandate of the sovereign Kenyan people. Hence, >>> > their substance will change from illegitimate to legitimate even though >>> > their form as courts subordinate to the High Court will remain. That is why >>> > the Church would rather they remain as a mistake than that they be elevated >>> > to the sovereign wish of the Kenya people. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > We should recognize that the Committee of Experts introduced, or failed to >>> > ferret out, many policy issues that belong to the legislative not to the >>> > constitutive process. The Constitution is supposed to be about broad >>> > principles. It was wrong to use the Constitution to legislate on abortion, >>> > on the Kadhis courts, on military rights, and on similar policy issues. All >>> > policy issues belong to Parliamentary legislation. Putting them in the >>> > Constitution has put us in a situation where a largely very good document is >>> > threatened with justified rejection. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > But is rejection the way to resolve this dilemma where a document that is >>> > overwhelmingly good is contaminated by evil? We call upon church leaders to >>> > reconsider their decision to reject the document because of the few mistakes >>> > it contains. Scripture has a very clear way forward. God is always patient >>> > and caring in the face of evil. Perfect is never the enemy of good. God does >>> > not destroy the good along with evil. He engages strategically. God never >>> > destroys the good even as he fights evil. God is a smart fighter; he never >>> > causes collateral damage. Otherwise, He would have destroyed the world >>> > because of the sin of humankind that stinks to high heaven. But because of >>> > the little good that there is, His Divine Mercy spares us all, giving us a >>> > chance to repent and make good our iniquities. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > In *Genesis 18:16-33 *Abraham pleads with God not to destroy the city of >>> > Sodom for the sake of the few good people there. Abraham asks God: "Wilt >>> > thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?" And God agrees to spare >>> > the whole city for the sake initially of 50 righteous then 45, 40, 30, 20, >>> > and, finally the Lord said: *"I will not destroy it for the sake of ten." >>> > *Eventually God saves righteous Lot and his family before He destroys >>> > Sodom . >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The main theme of the Gospel according to St. Matthew is division and >>> > judgment. Evil people are separated and destroyed as the holy are saved. In >>> > the parable of Wheat and weeds (*Matthew 13:24?30*) Jesus teaches through >>> > a parable, about a man who sowed good seed in his field, but while people >>> > slept, his enemy came and sowed weeds also among the wheat, and went away. >>> > But when the blade sprang up and brought forth fruit, then the weed appeared >>> > also. The servants wanted to go and pull them up but the master refused, >>> > saying: 'because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat >>> > with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will >>> > tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be >>> > burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.' " >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Instead of rejecting the Proposed Constitution of Kenya, church leaders >>> > should reject verbal assurances and demand that President Kibaki and Prime >>> > Minister Raila Odinga lead MPs into signing a post-referendum memorandum >>> > of understanding that immediately the new constitution is ratified they will >>> > embark on amendments to remove all offending clauses. For this will be a >>> > sure way of giving Kenyans a new constitution but not the simple way of >>> > dismissing the church concerns as dismal and parochial*. * >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Signed: >>> > >>> > >>> > *Neto Agostinho - **0722-467-365 *Date: >>> > Monday, April 5, 2010 >>> > >>> > National Convener, >>> > >>> > Kenyans for Justice and Development >>> > >>> > >>> > --- On *Tue, 4/6/10, Robert Alai * wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > From: Robert Alai >>> > Subject: Re: KADHI COURTS AND ISLAM ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS > >>> > >>> > To: "MlalaHoi" > >> > Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 9:27 AM >>> > >>> > Maina >>> > >>> > If you dont care what our views are then craft your own society. You >>> > will be doing no work fighting against Kadhi Courts because they will >>> > still be in the constitution whether you vote Yes or No >>> > >>> > Alai >>> > >>> > On Apr 6, 9:14 am, Maina Muthee wrote: >>> > > Let me tell you people, I don't care what your views are or explanation >>> > > about Kadhis courts. I have been mobilizing Christians to vote for NO NO >>> > NO. >>> > > >>> > > Christians you need to think twice while voting. Muslims know what they >>> > want >>> > > from inclusion in the constitution. Why are are leaders blind. Cant they >>> > > see? >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Rose Kagwiria < >>> > ikirimakagwi... at ...>wrote: >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > Robert >>> > > >>> > > > I agree with you Robert. These guys have no thanks. they concentrate >>> > more >>> > > > on negatives than positives. This does not refer to Muslim only but >>> > also >>> > > > those who call themselves clerics. Instead of thanking the supporters, >>> > they >>> > > > continue arguing with no bases. Is this what Mohamed and Jesus wanted >>> > his >>> > > > people to behave. Theses guys are very selfish >>> > > >>> > > > ------------------------------ >>> > > > *From:* Robert Alai >>> > > > *To:* MlalaHoi >>> > > > *Sent:* Mon, April 5, 2010 4:34:22 PM >>> > > > *Subject:* Re: KADHI COURTS AND ISLAM ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS >>> > > >>> > > > Mohammed >>> > > >>> > > > I am with you in Kadhi Courts being in the constitution but you know >>> > > > why many Christian gets to hate the Kadhi Courts? It is when people >>> > > > like you think that every criticism is "hate". When you want do >>> > > > declare a Fatwa or Jihad on anyone just because he holds different >>> > > > opinion, then even people who support you like me says "No this is >>> > > > sick". >>> > > >>> > > > Cant you learn to convince without Jihads and Fatwas? >>> > > >>> > > > Alai >>> > > >>> > > > On Apr 5, 2:24 pm, MOHAMEDWELI ABDI wrote: >>> > > > > First to correct you the Khadi court os direct laws from the Quran >>> > not >>> > > > from >>> > > > > the Sultan. If you are not Muslim then why will you worry you will be >>> > in >>> > > > > slaved by the Khadi court. He will not be able to summon you. >>> > > > > Thirdly where have you seen Khadi courts abuse of children and women? >>> > > > Infact >>> > > > > it is the other way round.It protects their rights. Your Western >>> > ideology >>> > > > > about Islam is what is confusing you. >>> > > > > Please refrain this kind of hate. Kenyans will never be divided by >>> > > > religion. >>> > > >>> > > > > United we stand, Divided we fall. Kenya never listen to bigots like >>> > this >>> > > > man >>> > > > > and Harry. >>> > > >>> > > > > Mohamed >>> > > >>> > > > > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Paul Nyandoto < >>> > paul.nyand... at ... >>> > > > >wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > > > Dear Kenyans, >>> > > >>> > > > > > I have got or received some very low life explanation about Kadhi >>> > > > courts. >>> > > > > > It is even unfortunate that some of those explanation do come even >>> > from >>> > > > real >>> > > > > > Islamic believers who end up calling us ignorant of the kadhi >>> > courts. >>> > > >>> > > > > > Kadhi courts exist in Kenya because sultan of zanzibar introduced >>> > them >>> > > > to >>> > > > > > the 10 km strip land along the coastal area of kenya as away of >>> > > > > > administration, just like the British also did divide and rule >>> > > > tactics.. >>> > > > > > Those land were under Sultan of zanzibar who was by then ruling and >>> > his >>> > > > > > governmental system wanted to hold those lands for ever. The sultan >>> > > > never >>> > > > > > paid or never bought those lands from the poor africans who were >>> > living >>> > > > in >>> > > > > > those areas, he just took them and the ones who resisted were sold >>> > to >>> > > > > > america as slaves. Kadhi courts and Islam as a religion are two >>> > > > completely >>> > > > > > different things. Kadhi courts do serve man and the sultan, NOT >>> > GOD. >>> > > > ISLAM >>> > > > > > as a religion serves God just as any other religion we see in kenya >>> > > > except >>> > > > > > atheism. >>> > > >>> > > > > > I just do not see why I should be called anti islam or against >>> > muslims >>> > > > if I >>> > > > > > do not want Kadhi courts in our constitution. To me kadhi courts >>> > are a >>> > > > > > direct extension of kenyan occupation by the sultan of zanzibar. >>> > Those >>> > > > > > courts hide a lot of child abuses in families, hide a lot of >>> > slavery on >>> > > > > > women, men end up exploiting women under those courts. Inheritance >>> > of >>> > > > wealth >>> > > > > > by females become almost imposible on those courts, go to Nigeria >>> > or >>> > > > sudan >>> > > > > > and see what I am talking about. The kadhi courts allow direct >>> > > > polygamist >>> > > > > > and women slavery which any normal brain thinking creature should >>> > not >>> > > > > > accept. Kenya as a state do have already courts so why the >>> > duplicate. >>> > > > What >>> > > > > > do those courts give which kenyan government courts are not giving. >>> > We >>> > > > want >>> > > > > > all Kenyans to be equal under tha country`s law. >>> > > >>> > > > > > So please fellow muslim brothers and some who support you blindly >>> > when >>> > > > > > informing us about Kadhi courts do not fool us around as you have >>> > been >>> > > > > > doing. Those courts serve man and the Sultan ( King), while islam >>> > > > serves GOD >>> > > > > > the almighty. Doing away with those kadhi courts in the >>> > constitution >>> > > > will >>> > > > > > not change your faith even by an inch. 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You want the audience to understand you clearly when making a presentation. ?Courage, Maurice ________________________________ From: Mbitiru Ng'ang'a To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 12:03:31 PM Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Dhamiri Ya Sauti Yasema La Kwa Katiba Mpya with all due respect sir, English would have been more understable and comprehesable than swahili -you have a point though regards mbitiru ________________________________ From: Koigi wa Wamwere To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 6:32:17 PM Subject: [YP_Ke] Dhamiri Ya Sauti Yasema La Kwa Katiba Mpya Dhamiri Ya Sauti Ya Mwananchi Inasema La Kwa Katiba Mpya Isiyosawazisha Watu, Tabaka, Wala Dini ? Ijapokuwa Dhamiri inaunga mkono dhana ya katiba mpya, hailii, bora katiba mpya. Inalilia katiba mpya bora. ? Ilitupate katiba mpya bora, nchi hii ilihitaji na bado inahitaji mjadala wa kitaifa utakaochangiwa na kila mwenye maoni kuhusu katiba mpya bila kubaguliwa au kupendelewa na vyombo vya habari ambavyo kwa sasa vimekataa kuruhusu mjadala wa wote kuhusu katiba mpya. ? Ilikupata katiba mpya bora, Dhamiri pia haina tashwishi kwamba Wakenya lazima watazame sio tu yaliyomo katika katiba mpya lakini pia yale ambayo hayamo. Dhamiri inasema hili kwa sababu inahisi, yaliyoachwa nje ya katiba mpya ni muhimu kuliko yaliyomo. ? Ilituelewe katiba mpya, lazima tujiulize, ni nani walioiandika na waliiandikia nani? ? Kwa jumla, Dhamiri inaamini, ingawa kwa kutojua, maskini wataipigia kura, katiba mpya ni katiba ya matajiri sio ya mafukara ambao ndio wengi nchini na wanaostahili kuimiliki kwa mujibu wa utawala wa walio wengi. ? Ya kwamba katiba mpya haisheheni maslahi ya maskini linaonyeshwa vizuri na kibonzo au katuni ya gazeti la Nation, kinachoonyesha Yesu-Wanjiku ambaye ni maskini akibebeshwa msalaba wa katiba mpya huku akihimizwa aongeze kasi ya kwenda Golgotha au machinjioni yake na wabunge wanaobeba rungu, viongozi wa dini waliovalia misalaba, matajiri wenye nyuso za mbweha, wasomi na wafanyabiashara wanaobeba mapanga, mishale na bunduki zinazopiga risasi juu. Ajabu ni kwamba Wanjiku uyu huyu anaebeba msalaba wa katiba mpya ndiye atakayeipigia kura ianze kumnyanyasa na kumnyonya ili marais, mawaziri, magavana na wabunge walioongezeka mara kadha katika bunge la taifa, seneti na mabunge ya county wapate mishahara yao ya juu. Kwa bahati mbaya, unaweza kumpeleka ng?ombe mtoni, lakini huwezi kumlazimisha anyue maji. Dhamiri nayo inaweza kumtanadharisha Wanjiku juu ya hatari za katiba mpya, lakini haiwezi kumlazimisha aikatae. ? Kama katika nchi ya Israeli iliyoandikiwa katiba ya Amri Kumi za Mungu na Mungu mwenyewe huku akishirikisha Musa peke yake, kwa sababu ya utakatifu wake, katika Kenya, badala ya kuandikiwa katiba mpya na waliotakasika zaidi miongoni mwetu, tuliwapa walio wachafu zaidi watwandikie katiba mpya. ? Ya kwamba tunaandikiwa katiba na wabunge mafisadi, wakabila, madikteta na washukiwa wanaochunguzwa na Moreno Ocampo kwa kupanga na kufadhili vita na mauaji ya kimbari au genocide, kunaonyesha hatuithamini sana katiba mpya kamatunavyodai. Katika nchi zingine, watu walioandikia Kenya katiba mpya hawangeruhusiwa wakaribie au waiguse rasimu yake kwa hofu yakuitia najisi. ? Kuongeza chumvi kwenye kidonda, mafisadi wanaoandika katiba mpya ndio ao hao watakaojilipa mabilioni ya pesa za serikali ili mashirika yao, magazeti, radio na runinga zao zituletee elimu yakutukubalisha katiba hio. Nani hajui anayemlipa mpiga nzumari ndiye huchagua wimbo? Mradi katiba mpya iko mikononi ya mafisadi, yenyewe na elimu kuihusu, zote zitakuwa fisadi na potofu. ? Kweli Wakenya wanawezaje kutarajia katiba ya kuwaokoa kama inaandikwa na viongozi na wasomi fisadi, wale wale wanaowafisha na kuwazika mchana kweupe? Kama mti fisadi huzaa matunda fisadi, viongozi na wasomi fisadi nao wamezaa katiba fisadi. ? Kwa sababu watu walioandika katiba mpya, kiitikadi ni maadui wa maskini, kamwe katiba yao haibebi sura zinazoshughulikia matatizo ya umaskini, ukabila, ufisadi na ubepari unaotuzalia matatizo yetu yote. Kwa sababu ya kushughulikia tu ugavi wa mamlaka na rasilmali kati ya viongozi wa makabila tofauti, matajiri na wasomi, kabisa katiba hii haitoshi kuitwa katiba ya watu wote. Ni katiba ya viongozi wa makabila, matajiri na wasomi. ? Ingawa wengine wanasema, tupitishe katiba mpya ili tuanze kuandikia maskini katiba yao, Dhamiri inaamini, vile si busara kuweka kizuizi barabarani ndio upite, si busara kuipitisha katiba ya matajiri ili baadaye tuanze harakati za kuandikia maskini katiba yao. Linalofaa sasa ni kuua katiba ya matajiri ikiwa bado tumboni ili tutunge mimba ya katiba ya maskini. Vile wahenga walisema fahali wawili hawakai zizi moja, nayo nchi moja haiwezi kutawaliwa na katiba mbili, ya maskini na matajiri. Vile katiba ya sasa ni katiba ya matajiri, hatuwezi kuibadilisha na katiba mpya ya matajiri tena. Hekima ni kuibadilisha katiba ya matajiri na katiba ya maskini. ? Kamanyenzo ya kutumalizia matatizo, katiba mpya lazima iwe ramani yakututoa kutoka lindi la umaskini wetu, itupeleke Kanaani ya maendeleo ya kila mtu. Lakini kama ramani ya kutuonyesha njia, katiba mpya lazima iwe katiba ya kanuni sio katiba ya maslahi ya makundi yenye pesa na kura. Kutupeleka Kanaani, katiba mpya lazima iangaziwe njia na kanuni za kidemokrasia na utawala bora zinazotambulika kote duniani. ? Kamakatiba mpya sio ya kanuni, haiwezi kuwa ramani ya kutufikisha kwenye maendeleo na demokrasia kamili. ? Kwa mujibu wa falsafa hii, katiba mpya inasema Kenya haitakuwa na dini ya nchi au serikali, na dini zote zitakuwa ni sawa mbele ya katiba na sheria zake. Hata hivyo katiba mpya inazikiuka kanuni hizi kwa kuchukua Uislamu kati ya dini zote na kuihifadhi. Wakristo na wanademokrasia wakiuliza kwa nini Uislamu ukitwe katika katiba mpya, tunaambiwa kwanza tuipitishe ikiwa na mahakama ya kadhi, baadaye tuombe Mahakama Kuu yayaondoe kutoka katiba. Lakini huu ni unafiki na hila, kwani ni rahisi kutoyaweka mahakama ya kadhi katika katiba mpya sasa, kuliko kuyatoa baadaye. ? Pili inasemwa, hata kama inakiuka kanuni ya usawa wa dini kuyaweka mahakama ya kadhi katika katiba, tuendelee kuyaweka katika katiba kwa sababu yamekuweko katika katiba ya sasa kwa miaka 47 tangu uhuru na hayajamdhuru yeyote. Kwa Dhamiri, ubishi huu ni sawa na kusema, kwa vile mtu ameishi na saratani au kansa ilalayo bila kuuma kwa miaka 47, hakuna haja ya kuitoa, daktari akiigundua. Mwenye kutetea saratani ya kulala iendelee kuwemo mwilini mwake, ni mtu asiyejali kufa au kupona. ? Tatu inasemwa hata Wakristo wakiikataa katiba mpya hawatahepa mahakama ya kadhi kwa sababu bado yapo katika katiba ya sasa. Lakini Wakristo wakifaulu kuishinda katiba mpya kwa sababu ya mahakama ya kadhi, watatumia ushindi uo huo kuyang?oa mahakama hayo kutoka kwa katiba ya sasa. ? Watu gani wataishinda katiba mpya kwa sababu ya mahakama ya kadhi na wayanyamazie katika katiba ya sasa? Isitoshe, kusema kwa sababu katiba ya sasa ina mahakama ya kadhi kwa hivyo tuyaweke katika katiba mpya ni kusema kasoro zote katika katiba ya sasa pia zihifadhiwe katika katiba mpya. Kwa nini basi tunaandika katiba mpya kama sio kumaliza kasoro zote za katiba ya sasa? ? Nne, tunajua wabunge wakabila walishindwa kukita majimbo makubwa au regions katika katiba mpya. Lakini hawakushindwa kabisa. Walifaulu kupata counties ambazo ni majimbo madogo yatakayokuwa na magavana na mabunge yao madogo na bunge kubwa la seneti la kuhifadhi himaya za makabila. ? Kama katika Nigeria ambako majimbo yake ya kwanza matatu yaliitwa ya kiutawala na sio ya kikabila, lakini baadaye yakazalishwa ili yapatie makabila 36 majimbo yao, hata majimbo ya katiba mpya 47, hatimaye yatazalishwa kupatia makabila ya Kuria, Teso, West Pokot na mengine majimbo yao. Jini la majimbo likitoka kwenye chupa, halitarudi ndani mpaka limeangamiza utaifa kabisa. ? Tunaoishi na uhanga wa majimbo hatuwezi kuyakubali majimbo ya katiba mpya, yawe madogo namna gani au yaitwe kwa jina gani lingine. ? Hapa ieleweke kwamba kupinga mahakama ya kadhi kuwekwa katika katiba mpya si kupinga yawemo nje ya katiba. Lakini yawemo chini ya sheria ya bunge kama vile dini zingine. Ivyo hivyo kupinga kuwemo kwa mahakama ya kadhi katika katiba, sio kuwa adui wa Uislamu. Lengo la kutoa mahakama ya kadhi katika katiba ni kujengea dini zote usawa dhidi ya ubaguzi na mapendeleo. Anayewapenda Waislamu ni anayezuia wasipendelewe au wabaguliwe. Ivyo hivyo anayewapenda watu wa dini zingine ni yule anayezuia wasipendelewe au wabaguliwe. ? Kama mahakama ya kadhi, katika katiba mpya, swala la kuavya mimba linasukumwa na utashi wa kupata kura kutoka kwa wanawake wasomi kuliko linavyofahamishwa na kanuni muhimu ya kuhifadhi uhai wa watu wote na hasa wanyonge na watoto tumboni ambao hawana uwezo wa kujilinda na kwa hivyo sharti walindwe na katiba. Kwa mujibu huu, inashangaza kwamba katiba mpya inasema ni haramu kuavya mimba, na wakati uo huo inapatia bunge uwezo, baadaye kubatilisha kanuni ya kuhifadhia kila mtu uhai. ? Dhamiri inasikitika kwamba wanasiasa wanaoomba kura za urais wanaogopa kusimamia ukweli na kanuni za uongozi bora, na badala yake kutetea maslahi ya makundi yenye kura, kama vile wanawake wasomi na Waislamu, kwa hofu ya kunyimwa kura na makundi yanayopigania maslahi yao katika katiba mpya kuliko yanavyojali ukweli na usawa. ? Ajabu zaidi ni kwamba, ingawa wanaogopa kunyimwa kura na Waislamu au wanawake wasomi, wagombea urais Wakristo hawaogopi kunyimwa kura na Wakristowenzao kwa sababu tu, Wakristo hawa wanatoka makabila yao na wamezoea kuwapa kura kiupofu. ? La mwisho, Dhamiri inauliza kama kweli kuna muda wa kufanyia rasimu mabadiliko yanaodaiwa na wengi, au lazima tuipitishe na kasoro zake zote kwa kukosa muda? Hapa tunasahau, haraka haraka haina baraka na ukiona mtu anakuharakisha ufanye kitu, anatafuta kukurubuni au kukutapeli. Ukweli ni kwamba, mradi katiba mpya haijapigiwa kura ya uamuzi, kuna muda wa kuibadilisha. Katiba ya kudumu karne si kitu ambacho, watu wanaweza kulazimishiwa na watu wengine kama nchi ina uhuru na demokrasia ya kweli.? ? Kwa sasa bunge linalia kwamba haliwezi kuongeza muda wa masikilizano ati kwa sababu limefungwa mikono na sheria lisifungue rasimu tena mpaka ipigiwe kura na kuwa katiba mpya. Lakini sheria gani hii inayotushinikizia udikteta wakutoweza kuikarabati au kuisahihisha ramani ambayo, ikituelekeza vibaya, itatupeleka Jehanamu badala ya Kanaani? Si Yesu alisema mtu hakuumbwa atumikie sheria, sheria ndiyo huundwa itumikie mtu? Kwa nini tusiweze kubadilisha sheria inayotukataza tuwe na katiba tunayotaka, hata kama tuna dakika moja tu ya kufanya hivyo? Hii inaonekana kama ni haraka ya wafanyabiashara laghai wanaotuharakisha tusaini katiba haramu, haraka iwezekanavyo, huku wakijua mara tu tumeipiga muhuri, tutakuwa tumejifunga na hatutaweza kurudi nyuma. ? Mwisho, makanisa yanaambiwa yasipinge katiba mpya kama yalivyowasaliti Wakenya mwakani wa 2005 na 2007. Wanaopiga kelele hizi zaidi ni vyombo vya habari na hasa magazeti yale yale yaliyoungana na wanasiasa kuwasha moto wa kikabila tulio ona ukiteketeza nyoyo za Wakenya maskini. Kama katika Rwanda, kando na wanasiasa, nani mwingine alihubiri chuki za kikabila zaidi ya vyombo vya habari vinavyoyalaumu makanisa sasa? Inasikitisha kuona vyombo vya habari vikitupia makanisa mawe kama vyenyewe maasumu. Ama kweli, nyani haoni kundule. ? Tamati, Dhamiri inataka kujua, tusipoweza kubadilisha katiba isiyozaliwa bado, tutawezaje kuibadilisha baada ya kuzaliwa na mifupa yake kuwa migumu? Tunapoandika katika mpya, hatuwezi kuruhusu giza liongoze mwanga. ? 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URL: From agostinhoon at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 02:01:26 2010 From: agostinhoon at gmail.com (neto agostinho) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:01:26 -0700 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] KEJUDE PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED CONSTITUTION Message-ID: Kenyans For Justice and Development (KEJUDE) issued a press statement on Easter Monday, duly signed by myself, read to the media and later circulated to the various networks by my fellow compatriot Okoiti Omtatah. That press statement has received various criticisms and critique which are very welcome. There are a few things however i need clarify as we continue engaging in the Constitutional debate and other debates on National issues. First, For the record, let it be known that KEJUDE supports the Proposed Constitution of Kenya as passed by Parliament a couple of days ago and we are on the verge of activating our networks to engage in a spirited National campaign for a 'YES' Vote on the proposed constitution. I am not sure where in the press statement we issued we campaigned against the Proposed Constitution? i would request those who think otherwise to re-read the statement and derive our implied spirit. Second, as the membership of KEJUDE we put a lot of thinking into the statements we issue, they are a product of several hours of debates and disagreements within our membership before they see the light of day, so whereas we appreciate criticism and critique, we are human and thus bound to falter, we would appreciate thought out and well reasoned critique, not uncalled for scathing by self proclaimed bigots who know it all and do not even care to listen to what they are saying. I have been told that chewing your words sometimes is a wholesome meal. Third,There is a basic principle of equity that is coined in part and states that monkeys cannot decide the affairs of the forest. In the present constitutional debate, The church wheoever they are, be it Rev Njue, Cannon Whoever, pastor who have an argument. Their argument is that there is an inclusion of Kadhis courts in the constitution and a clause on abortion, whether this is informed or not, whether this stand point is correct or not is another matter! You cannot rubbish it, it is their stand point. The best we can do is not RAISE OUR VOICES AGAINST THEIRS, we only NEED TO IMPROVE our argument against theirs? Chest thumping here does not yield much, they could be wrong and we could be right that the Kadhis court is harmless but we have to convince them??? It is also not proper to imagine that they do not pose a threat to the constitution, Several people are already hiding behind the church to make sure the draft does not pass, those with huge tracks of illegally acquired land amongst others... so i think they do. So shall we lose a very good document, which in our opinion as KEJUDE, the proposed constitution is, simply because, we took the position of know it all bigots quoting all manner philosophy and lexis to drum our points home and think the other party ( clerics) are ill informed. I resounding NO, is my answer to this....we need to get the church on board, you do not get to do this by telling them that they are stupid. I was told that you can argue to convince me that you are right but you will never argue to convince me that am wrong. Fellow compatriots, it is for this reason we are saying, we are so near a new constitution, We need to embrace the spirit of compromise and see how to convince the church and their perceived faithfuls to get on board. To this extent we have asked the church as KEJUDE to negotiate a pre-referundum MOU with the legislators that they will support ammendments on the offending clauses upon the passage of the proposed constitution. There is mechanism in the proposed constititution that proposes for a referendum on issues we want changed, should the church be defeated at that Referendum then let them hold their peace.So if this is the sort of thing we need to do to get the Constitution passing, brethren lets do it.Let us not show how much we know or how much we do not know. At this rate we are only interested in those who care for Kenya and Kenyans in general, those who do, compromise and listen to each other. Fourth, Let us not bring into a serious thing like the constitutional debate civil society or NGO cliches...Any good constitution the world over is engrained on a simple principle, That of checks and balances on the various arms of governments. If any constitution meets that remit like we are pursuaded at KEJUDE that the proposed constitution does, Lets Vote 'YES' For it and we begin the task of nation building that has eluded for several years . Any other jargon civil society or NGO's would like to introduce, be they irreducible minimums, principles, do not help us much, it only helps their programmatic issues. Kenya is not a program. And that is why we cannot posit to know more than other citizens, all of us have a stake as Kenyans and there are no half citizens or then the provisions of the RIGHT TO EQUALITY will be pies in the sky? 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URL: From chemurwok at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 04:42:13 2010 From: chemurwok at gmail.com (sagongonyi chemurwok) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:42:13 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Daniel Arap Moi should leave Kenyans alone In-Reply-To: <116175.73628.qm@web54106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <116175.73628.qm@web54106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: George, I am not defending Moi, I am just stating what is obvious. If you want to continue with the old song that Moi did this and that, that is your problem. Do not forget that Moi ran this country with many of the current politicians with your Uncle Raila included. The issue is not about what Moi did or did not do, it is whether Moi has a right to give a stand on any issue in this country. It is also whether you have any right to silence anybody who would like to give an opinion and where you derive such powers. The proposed constitution gives people freedom of association, freedom of speech, etc. I have not read where it says with the exclusion of Moi. You have not made any attempt to answer my two questions: the one on two centres of power and the experts on constitutional making that Moi advocated in 2001 and which was refused by the current politicians. This is the same approach that is being used currently. If Moi was wrong then, why is it right now? how come the same politicians who promised to give us the Bomas draft in 2002 have taken 10 years to see what Moi saw in 2001? part of what was burried in the 24 years was an attempt to kill Moi with your uncle Raila playing a leading role in the 1982 aborted coup whic saw so many people killed and properties destroyed. Do not imagine at any one time that what was burried only belongs to Moi. On 4/7/10, George mboya wrote: > > Sagongonyi, > > I like your defence of Moi. However, I do not see why you do not understand > Moi all these years. If I were to award a medal to him, it would be that of > selfishness. Moi is the No.1 selfish Kenyan a live. I do not want to dwell > on the wrongs Moi did cos in 24 years he had to have committed some. BUT do > not tell us anything about Moi again regarding good governance and decision > making. He is the man who singlehandedly almost brought this country to its > knees and laughed over it. We still feel the aftershocks and failures of Moi > era. Look at the infratsructural development in the last few years - You > cant equate it to the Moi's 24yrs! and many more. > > We respect elders and ought to do so and Moi should also respect this > country and just keep his failed wisdom to himself. Let him also accept that > there are other Kenyans who can do it albeit differently. Saa ya baba na > mama ilikwisha. People like you who want to remind us of Moi are trying to > forcefully exhume a stinking and already buried dead to the amazement of > all. > > However, Moi has a right like any other Kenyan to contribute to any issue > at hand. I strongly think though, that his failures as President irredemably > reduced his credibility and those of his ideas to an extent I doubt many > people trust him. > > > Only when it is dark enough can you see the stars!! > > --- On *Tue, 4/6/10, sagongonyi chemurwok * wrote: > > > From: sagongonyi chemurwok > Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Daniel Arap Moi should leave Kenyans alone > To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 4:43 PM > > > Henry, when Moi said in 2002 that we cannot have two centres of power, the > current crop of politicians in leadership said it is possible. Kiraitu, > Kituyi, Karua, Raila, Kibaki, etc were in the forefront selling to us the > idea. NARC promised to give us the Bomas draft in 100 days if they were > elected to office. Moi had mentioned something to do with constitutional > experts to draft the constitution, he was told by the same guys that Wanjiku > can draft the constitution. On taking over leadership, Narc told us that it > is really not possible to have two centres of power. Michuki confessed that > they had used this gimmick to have their own in power and since Kibaki had > already succeeded, there was no need for a PM. The bomas draft was mutilated > in Kilifi and we were told to vote for it. Moi refused as so many of us did > refuse. Why do you want to judge Moi differently now? If Kibaki and NARC > were honest, why did they not bring the Bomas draft to the refurendum? why > have these politicians now realized it is not good to have a prime minister > and a president with executive powers, something that Moi saw in 2002? why > are we using the COE now instead of Wanjiku, something that Moi had proposed > in 2001 and Kenyans refused to take his advise? Moi is a Kenyan and he has a > right to take a stand in the draft constitution and you do not have to agree > with his stand. Why did you not tell him to shut up in 2005 when he said he > was going to vote NO? He has his reasons for saying NO and you have your > reasons to saying YES. That is the essence of democracy, whoever carries the > day in the end, we should rally together in that direction. > > On 4/6/10, henry ouma > > wrote: >> >> According to Kenyan media reports, one Arap Moi has shamelessly averred >> that he will vote against the proposed constitution-Presumably for reasons >> that : it's proposals on land issues are improper and that the >> constitution could allow abortion- both of his reasons >> are mis-interpretation / misreading of the relevant sections/clauses of the >> proposed constitution. >> >> As former President and elderly statesman, Moi could have led by urging >> Kenyans to support the proposed constitution and collectively seek to make >> well thoughout ammendments that are in best intrests of the Kenyan nation >> later. How does Arap Moi compare current constitution to the one proposed ? >> >> According to Moi, it could be held that he prefers the current >> constitution -in which president and his cronies could grab public land , >> president acting alone appoints bootlickers to cabinet, could manipulate >> electoral systems and rig himself in office , could use the police force >> to unleash terror to opponents, could use public office to corruptly >> acquire wealth and consign meritocracy to some dustbin, could stiffle >> independence of both legislature and Judiciary.As the proposed constitution >> enacts, all these cannot happen-so what good does Arap Moi look for >> in constitution ? >> >> Does Moi or those in his school of thought hope or nurture orgasmic dream >> to rule Kenya under the current laws ? >> >> Arap moi must have enjoyed ruling through a draconian constitutional >> dispensation that saw Kenya ruined politically and economically and >> seemingly, through his recent remarks has no apologies to make-Arap Moi has >> sons who should advice him that like former Presidents elsewhere , he needs >> to tone down-He should not evoke those sad memories that characterised his >> reign and that of his predecessor supported by the current constitutional >> dispensation. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 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URL: From grnyongesa at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 06:35:52 2010 From: grnyongesa at yahoo.com (George Nyongesa) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] 83.6% off Kenyans do not support Kiplagat chairing TJRC! Message-ID: <412031.83894.qm@web51706.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Dear Kenyans and friends of Kenya, 83.6% of Kenyans polled online do not support Bethwel Kiplagat to chair truth and justice commission. The polls that sought Kenyans' opinion on whether they?felt that Amb. Kiplagat commands public trust to lead a truth commission attracted total participation of 19,487 in 5 days ( first vote was cast on March 31st and last vote on April 6th, 2010). Of the total participation, 16,282 voted lack of trust in the old ambassador's fitness to lead the historic process. While the polls outcome are not scientific results, seen against sentiments expressed in other social circles, it raises serious questions that Amb. Kiplagat and TJRC should not wish away. The poll results can b accessed at this link: http://www.bungelamwananchi.org/index.php?option=com_poll&id=4:-do-you-think-that-ambassador-bethwel-kiplagat-commands-public-trust-to-lead-a-truth-and-justice-commission-successful Thank you for participating in the polls! 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URL: From josiah.ogalo at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 07:21:00 2010 From: josiah.ogalo at gmail.com (josiah ogalo) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:21:00 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] African confidential Magazine - 2 April 2010 Message-ID: Yona, It is very sad the sorry state of affairs in our beloved continent Africa. Actually the poverty we see increasing daily is because to an extent the western world is also responsiblbe coupled with corruption, poor/weak leadership, wars/conflicts some of which are supported by the so called developed nations! Ethiopia has tightened rules regarding repatriation of profits/capital from their own country and in a way helped itself from this problem. Countries like Kenya are yet to wake up and come up with laws that will ensure that foreign companies doing business here cannot repatriate capital/profits home. Kenyan economy is an open mining field for all, no wonder the chinese, japanese and others have penetrated it with their own products. Speaking of which, we've millions of Kenyans owning yahoo/g-mail e-mail addresses from which the companies make huge profits. How come we have no laws as recently reported in China that Goodle was to withdraw or has withdrawn? How do you manage to deal with e-business? We need serious thinkers as MPs in the next parliament to help shape te future of this country! 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URL: From kjmwangi at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 08:02:18 2010 From: kjmwangi at gmail.com (Kuria-Mwangi) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:02:18 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] WHO PAYS THE CHIEF KADHI'S? In-Reply-To: <159069.30779.qm@web31805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <543981.35437.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4BBC7BFF0200006C0000AD79@mail.anu.ac.ke> <159069.30779.qm@web31805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Winnie, Yes, his salary and that of other Kadhis comes from the purse where Chief Justice's salary come from. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:30 AM, WINFRED NYAMBURA wrote: > Dear all, > I need to understand this, is the chief Kadhi paid from Tax payers money? I > heard someone talking about it on TV and wanted to find out the truth of > this. And if he is paid from Tax payers money, why is that? > > NOTE: I dont expect war of words from people. I just need clarity. > > regards > Nyambura Ndungu > > > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim > Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda > Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, > Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by > Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > -- http://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.com http://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. From daolela at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 09:01:49 2010 From: daolela at gmail.com (Danny Olela) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:01:49 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] Kenyatta's son joins Shake The Tree Movement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: .......already the movement has retreads whom we are suppose to dislodge from power??????? On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Dickens Odhiambo wrote: > Askofu Kurias, > Have you joined this Movement yet? > > > http://www.glw4president.com/index1/index.php?option=com_content&view=sectio > n&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=73 > > A political movement started by Kenyans in the Diaspora is sweeping like a > fire across the United States, Europe and East Africa. Shake The Tree > Movement is the bandwagon that a Kenyan law professor, George Wajackoyah is > using as a platform to prepare for the 2012 Kenyan general elections in > which he plans to stand for President. > > In an exclusive interview while on his Meet The People World Tour in > London, > Prof Wajackoyah claims his organization has already been joined by Kenyan > politicians including the son of the late Kenyan President Jomo Kenyatta, > Mr > Uhuru Muigai Kenyatta who is the current leader of Kenya's biggest > political > party, the Kenya African National Union (KANU). He is also the country's > Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance. Sylvester Bifwoli, Kenya's > assistant Minister of Lands has also joined the movement that now says it > has support among Kenyan university students."We are asking everybody to > climb the tree and if the people of Kenya shake it and they are able to > hold > on to its branches, then they are in. If they fall off the tree, they will > not be part of us." Prof Wajackoyah said. Below is the full interview. > > > _______________________________________________ > Jambo mailing list > Jambo at publiceyesite.org > http://publiceyesite.org/mailman/listinfo/jambo_publiceyesite.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jacknyaiga at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 08:06:17 2010 From: jacknyaiga at yahoo.com (Jectone Ndunya) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 05:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Should I marry an uneducated House Wife? Message-ID: <251951.14209.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Am soon making a resolve. After listening to many story about working class Chicks from my friends relatives etc........am chickening out from the learned Women's table? and is headed for the above................. Before every one is invited....... should i go ahead? Brooklyn is in my list soo...................!!! since non of you ever sent a CV. SHE IS NOW MINE AND THE LIKES OF NYONGESA MUST COIL THEIR TALES, BOW THEIR HEADS AND WALK AWAY. 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URL: From jacknyaiga at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 08:12:15 2010 From: jacknyaiga at yahoo.com (Jectone Ndunya) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 05:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] CLUMSY CHICK In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <761782.9709.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Irene, Worse still, i bend through the kitchen to bathroom to every where cooking, cleaning up her mess and all she does is to handle things cl;clumsily ending up breaking my most cherished utensils and you want to compare her with one who at least made an effort although missed on the color? C'mon chick get real........... --- On Tue, 4/6/10, irene mutemba wrote: From: irene mutemba Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] CLUMSY CHICK To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 10:04 PM Jectone, hapo hakuna ubaya, if you have her(she who breaks utencils) and the other one(she who buys yellow utencils) all is well. On 4/6/10, Muita Wangoko wrote: > ooohhh Noooo!....Jex my brother from another mother, How do you even dare > entertain such silly nonsense...dawa tu ni moja! Next time she breaks an > item, be sure to land two well calculated slaps on her of both cheeks.? I > can confirm it works! I did it in time and age a couple of years ago. It's > likes she was trying me, she could easily knock a glass that was harmlessly > lying at a point where it can't easily fall and then apologise with a > grin.....!? See, there is a Kikuyu saying that goes "Sori yoragire ikombe > cia muthungu".? When a househelp used to break a whiteman's cup(or any other > item) during the colonial times, they would just say sorry(sori).? This > habit can easily continue if it is not tamed! and a beating will always do! > > +--------------------------------------------------------------+ > Best Regards, > :Muita Wangoko: > > Life is transient; its joys are transitory; > its hours are fleeting > > +--------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 16:39, karanja goro wrote: > >>? Jack. >> >>? Dont? Worry all she is doing is ensuring she erases the memory of your >> former chick. >> Most ladies when they move into a new boyfriends place always tries to >> replace the cutlery. >> >> >>? KG >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:45:14 +0300 >> >> Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] CLAMSY CHICK >> From: khabereri at gmail.com >> >> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com >> >> @ Jectone, >> >> Sio kwa ubaya but, looooooooooooooooooooooool! >> >> Ahem! 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URL: From jbatec at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 09:05:26 2010 From: jbatec at yahoo.com (Judy Miriga) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Fw: 83.6% off Kenyans do not support Kiplagat chairing TJRC! Message-ID: <909106.6427.qm@web57316.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Folks, ? It is people's democratic rights that they be heard and their mandate be respected. It is the law of land?enshrined in?the current constitution?as well as the newly drafted constituion, and that Public Mandate and jurisdiction be respected and must be acted upon fairly as their demands states. ? Amb. Kiplagat continuous stay on TJRC is a downright insult and abuse of public mandate, concensus, demands and opinions and is against the protocol of peoples democratic views and rights.?Globally, we have made our voices heard.?In otherwords, it means Kibaki is using thorax using iron fists to keep Amb. Bethwel Kiplagat in public office against public wishes which means he is dictating terms upon the people by force. ? We want a leadership that which respects peoples opinion and is ready to respond to public needs and demands. ? Continuous stay of Kiplagat in public office is tantamount to a criminal offence punishable by the law of land and public have a right to lay down and lists their fears and frustrations accusing the Coalition leadership from not urgently?heeding public mandate and issue which is compromising?people's unity, safety and security?in the country.? His forceful stay in public office will corrupt and interfere with further investigations laid against him. ? Accusations against Amb. Kiplagat weigh down on public interest and conscious that his forcesful continues stay is erroding peace, love and security of Kenyans. We therefore continue to demand an immediate leave of Amb. Kiplagat from public service.? ? We hope President Kibaki and PM Raila will heed the majority's request and demands and oblidge favourably, so we can get the right answers and conclude pending cases?with high level?suspecions??that have been hoovering against Amb. Kiplagat on the grabbing of land and the killing of Dr. Robert Ouko and Bishop Alexander Kipsang Arap Muge?once and for all. ? At this point, we request the International Community, the UN, Foreign Leaders who are Allys and friends of Kenya, including Global sympathizers to step in to intervene and help Kenya with this demand about to tear Kenya apart. ? Sincerely, Judy Miriga Diaspora Spokesperson Executive Director Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc., USA http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com ? ? --- On Wed, 4/7/10, George Nyongesa wrote: ? ? From: George Nyongesa Subject: [YP_Ke] 83.6% off Kenyans do not support Kiplagat chairing TJRC! To: NewVisionKenya at yahoogroups.com, "'africa-oped at yahoogroups.com'" , mwananchibunge at gmail.com, mwananchi at yahoogroups.com, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com, mlalahoi at googlegroups.com, keepingitrealafrica at yahoogroups.com, kenva at yahoogroups.com, mulembe at yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 6:35 AM Dear Kenyans and friends of Kenya, 83.6% of Kenyans polled online do not support Bethwel Kiplagat to chair truth and justice commission. The polls that sought Kenyans' opinion on whether they?felt that Amb. Kiplagat commands public trust to lead a truth commission attracted total participation of 19,487 in 5 days ( first vote was cast on March 31st and last vote on April 6th, 2010). Of the total participation, 16,282 voted lack of trust in the old ambassador's fitness to lead the historic process. While the polls outcome are not scientific results, seen against sentiments expressed in other social circles, it raises serious questions that Amb. Kiplagat and TJRC should not wish away. ? The poll results can be accessed at this link: ? http://www.bungelamwananchi.org/index.php?option=com_poll&id=4:-do-you-think-that-ambassador-bethwel-kiplagat-commands-public-trust-to-lead-a-truth-and-justice-commission-successful Thank you for participating in the polls! Sincerely, George Nyongesa www.bungelamwananchi.org +254 720 451 235 ? Kanini Evans Kariuki Kanini Evans Kariuki is a veteran Kenyan Journalist with several years of experience behind him. He was born on July 10, 1963 in Nakuru town,Rift Valley province, Kenya, at Kivumbini estate. His entire family members later shifted from Kivumbini to Flamingo estate, then Kimathi, Thumaina, Langalanga and then to Free Area, near the Lanet Army Barracks where they settled. He completed his secondary education at Afraha Secondary School in Nakuru town , Rift Valley province,Kenya,in 1980, and then joined Naitiri High School,Western Kenya, for his"A"level education,completing in 1982. Later, he underwent training in journalism in some institutes in Kenya. Kanini who doubles up as a researcher, has worked for all the leading Daily newspapers in Kenya;the Daily Nation, The Standard, The Kenya Times and The People Daily.He was the Eldoret town Bureau Chief of The Star newspaper-Kenya's most incisive and authoritative by-weekly newspaper, which collapsed way back in 1998 due to what was perceived as political machinations worked out against it by the past government.Eldoret town is in the Rift Valley part of Kenya,which was the hotbed of the 2007 ugly political violence. Kanini is currently also a media consultant for Soldiers of Peace International Association,Africa liason office,Nairobi. In his long-standing career as a journalist,Kanini has covered various dramatic events in Kenya which include the story of former renown detainee Koigi wa Wamwere. He has also covered the 1992 and 1997 politically-instigated ethnic violence in the expansive Rift Valley province, and the worst of all, the 2007 political violence in Kenya where over 1,500 people were killed,350,000 displaced, hundreds maimed and property worth billions of shilings torched following the disputed elections. Kanini also covered the sad story of the late outspoken and fiery Kenyan clergyman bishop Alexander Kipsang arap Muge, who was famous in the East African region for fighting corruption, land -grabbing, political assassinations,bureaucracy and other irritating vices. Bishop Muge perished in a bizzare road accident on August 14,1990 along the Eldoret/Turbo road, facing Western Kenya. The bishop died after a controversial but triumphant visit to Western Kenya in Busia, after receiving death threats from a former cabinet minister, warning him that he would die if he dared visit the area. Kanini also covered the historic Somalia National Peace and Reconciliation Conference from when it first kicked off in Kenya on October 15 2002, to the end. Kanini is in the files of Amnesty International for his courage in the reportage of events in the volatile Rift Valley region, and has received commendation from the global Human Right's watchdog. Apart from covering events in the Rift Valley, he also writes about issues affecting East and Central Africa as well as other parts of Africa. Kanini has been trained on Journalism and ethics by the Media Institute in Kenya, and has also undergone various in-house trainings in journalism with the Daily Nation Media Group, East Africa's largest circulating newspaper. ? ?Friday, 1 September, 2000, 15:48 GMT 16:48 UK BBC New. ? Kenya curses the month of August ? The embassy bombing in Nairobi was in August two years ago By Joseph Warungu in Nairobi August is cursed in Kenya. And I am not alone in thinking this. Early this week, a worried Kenyan wrote to a national newspaper saying: "Much has been said about August being the month of sorrow. But that's when I was born and it's unfortunate I can't change the date. Isn't there anything to celebrate in this month?" 12 months on another August looms Well, apparently not. And here's why: On 1 August 1982, Kenyans woke up to the sounds of gunfire throughout Nairobi as a group of Kenya Airforce soldiers seized power in a coup attempt that saw private Hezekiah Ochuka rule the country for about six hours. Loyalist army soldiers then moved in and restored a shaken Daniel arap Moi to office at the cost of dozens of lives. Only four years earlier on 22 August 1978, the country was thrown into national mourning preceded by a period of deep political uncertainty as the founder President Jomo Kenyatta died in Mombasa. Embassy bombing But perhaps the most dreadful moment for Kenya was 7 August 1998 when an innocent looking truck drove up to the then US embassy on Haile Selassie Avenue and stopped. Many Kenyans mourned the recent death of Father Kaiser Moments later a powerful bomb went off and with it the lives of over 200 people. Some of the more memorable suspected political deaths have also occurred in the month of August. Take the example of one the government's fiercest critics and champion of the poor people's rights - Anglican Bishop Alexander Kipsang Muge. He died in a horrendous road crash on Tuesday 14 August 1990. Foul play was immediately whispered everywhere given the fact that the Bishop had ruffled the feathers of one too many politicians. On the same day in August two years later - 14 August 1992, a prominent opposition leader Masinde Muliro died under mysterious circumstances. Bad economics And it is not just the hand of death that has visited Kenya during August. More than 200 Kenyans died in accidents in August The economy too can blame the eighth month of the year for gloomy happenings such as 12 August 1997 when the World Bank announced it was witholding the disbursement of $5bn in structural adjustment credit to Kenya. Although such aid has since resumed, things have never been the same on the economic front. Kenya's second-largest city, Mombasa, has traditionally been a haven of peace. So it was with deep shock that on 13 August 1997 Kenyans received the news of an attack on the police station in the coastal town of Likoni and the killing of a number of policemen sparking a period of mindless political and ethnic blood-letting that left many dead. August 2000 And finally to the year 2000 which has had its fair share of August tragedies. As if the effects of the darkest period in recent memory due to power rationing was not bad enough, Kenyans have had to grapple with some of the worst railway and road accidents in its history, that have left a total of nearly 200 people dead in August 2000. August has brought no respite from Kenya's drought And just a few days ago, many traders were in tears when a fierce fire swept through a huge and popular Nairobi market reducing it and millions of shillings worth of goods to ashes. And just as Kenyans prepared to breathe a sigh of relief that awful month was nearly gone - on 24 August , a controversial Catholic priest and outspoken critic of the government Father John Antony Kaiser was found murdered near Naivasha town in the Rift Valley province. And though the American FBI and Kenyan police are on the case, once again the words politics and assassination were used in the same sentence by many people. On the last day of the month Father Kaiser was buried, and so too, hopefully, the memories of August - but 12 months on another August looms. -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From isaac.kiplagat at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 09:43:47 2010 From: isaac.kiplagat at gmail.com (Isaac Kiplagat) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:43:47 -0700 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] volunteer trainee In-Reply-To: <450036.21691.qm@web62202.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <450036.21691.qm@web62202.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Exactly that is how to advance your career. I did the same last and it has yield fruits this year. All the best From isaac On 7 April 2010 03:28, stellah wanja wrote: > Hi all, > Am looking for a firm that can absorb me, as a volunteer in the following > areas: > finance, tax, audit, accounts, and business advisory. > Am available and willing to work for free. > If you know of any firm or own one, please get back to me through the > following e-mail address: wanjastellah at yahoo.com. > > your assistance is highly appreciated. > > Regards > stellah wanja > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by > Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From muntumisango at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 09:36:31 2010 From: muntumisango at gmail.com (Muntu Misango) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:36:31 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] questions In-Reply-To: <006c01cad651$9680f810$c382e830$@com> References: <006c01cad651$9680f810$c382e830$@com> Message-ID: What age is your daughter? |What prompted the question? This shoud help understand whether the answer she needs is one related to 'why fairy tales have unbelievable/contradictory devices' or 'How I can reach the land far far away' Muntu On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:55 PM, maina ndiritu wrote: > People , my daughter called to ask a question which I feel could be > beyond me , I therefore solicit your assistance in this grave matter > > > > She asked , why is it that in the fairy tales , the kingdom is always far > far away ? does it mean it cannot be reached ? and who came back from far > far away to tell the stories from there ? > > > > I now put those queries to your very capable hands , I need an answer that > would satisfy her , this evening if possible > > > > In advance , thanx > > > > > > > > Maina ndiritu > > KAINOOK AGENCIES LIMITED > > P.O.Box 210 Uhuru Gardens > > Nairobi 00517 > > Kenya > > Tel. +254 020 2018907 > > Mo. +254 722707900 > > kainook at swiftkenya.com > > litshooz at gmail.com > > ICQ - 167192098 > > > > > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by > Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From denyutu at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 09:47:22 2010 From: denyutu at gmail.com (Dan Nyutu) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:47:22 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] KINDLY DONATE KSHS 100 MPESA FOR PAINT A SCHOOL PROJECT Message-ID: YPs, Thank you for your generous support and contributions to LYP Projects. This Saturday, we are giving color to a dull school in Mombasa as well as donating sports equipment and accessories in addition to sanitary pads to less privileged school kids. This will; a. Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. b. Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. c. Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls. We need to buy Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. We are still short of budget. Every coin will help and will be accounted for to the last cent. Kindly M-PESA the LYP Mombasa Treasurer, Jackie, Number 0722988481 / or Zap:0732908520 with a 100 bob to help us reach our target. If a significant number can send 100 bob each, we will reach our target. Thanks again. -- Daniel Nyutu LYP Treasurer Email: treasury at ypkenya.org Cell: 0728-200075 "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" Albert Einstein (Attributed) US (German born) Physicist (1879-1955) -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnk.kihara at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 12:01:29 2010 From: johnk.kihara at gmail.com (John Kihara) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 19:01:29 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] THIKA ROAD UPGRADING AND PERSISTENT FLU/COUGHING EPISODES In-Reply-To: <1b7e6a6a-a091-44bd-bbc0-0240f133d604@10g2000yqq.googlegroups.com> References: <1b7e6a6a-a091-44bd-bbc0-0240f133d604@10g2000yqq.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Zisi, While I reserve most of the explanation to medical experts, my layman understanding is that dust acts as an effective vehicle for viruses that would otherwise be lying harmless on the ground. The permanent clouds of dust on Thika road may be the cause of the vigorous coughing competition. JK On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:17 PM, zisi wrote: > Hi all! > > I would like somebody to please explain, how come so many of the > residents/users of Thika road seem to be having coughing episodes, is > it that the soil which has been excavated from deep down the earth as > construction goes on has brought up with it some new virus strain? > > I would like to know this as some of us have had so many recurring > episodes of flu and coughing which of late don?t seem to heal. > > This could also be some area of research for some curious mind. > > zisi > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by > Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kjmwangi at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 20:09:47 2010 From: kjmwangi at gmail.com (Kuria-Mwangi) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:09:47 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] [KOL] -: Sex pest in Parklands? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Odhis, I am with you here. Gumo ought to do something about his constituents otherwise I will be your campaign manager. What is going on with Wahindi. They used to lead vichangafree lives but now they are "overtaking us". Look at this fellow who was conned by a woman. She sent pictures of her sister because sister looks better and married her via phone. We need to start this program of marrying via phone and use pictures. You can a bride in Nyando and all you need to buy her is good airtime so that phone does not get disconnected during the wedding. Problem is that she may have sent you pictures of Nyongo's daughter and you fall in love only to end up finding out that you married a fish a monger with two noses:) http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/ar ? dding?bn=1 Kuria On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Dickens Odhiambo wrote: > > > > > > Askofu Kurias, > > If Hon. Fred Gumo does not protect this Constituent, I will remove > > him 2012 kabisa. > > > > Sex pest in Parklands? > > From: K24TV | April 07, 2010 | 111 > > views > > A business tycoon of Asian origin living in Parklands is allegedly raping > > and sexually harassing Asian women in Parklands area. > > Farah Habib, A widow alleges well known Asian businessman in the > Parklands > > area raped and sexually molested her, and when she tried to go to the > > police for help, the tycoon allegedly molested her further. > > ... 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From wanjastellah at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 06:28:59 2010 From: wanjastellah at yahoo.com (stellah wanja) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] volunteer trainee Message-ID: <450036.21691.qm@web62202.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hi all, Am looking for a firm that can absorb me, as a volunteer in the following areas: finance, tax, audit, accounts, and business advisory. Am available and willing to work for free. If you know of any firm or own one, please get back to me through the following e-mail address: wanjastellah at yahoo.com. your assistance is highly appreciated. 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Think Positive!! ________________________________ From: WINFRED NYAMBURA To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 11:03:32 AM Subject: [YP_Ke] LMS Guest house (SDA owned) Hi guys, I am looking for the contact details for the above guest house urgently. I would like to know what they offer. please send me details of the above guest house. ________________________________ From: shiko eva To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 9:53:16 AM Subject: [YP_Ke] Househelp needed Hi all, Evalyne is hiring a househelp preferably a middle aged woman live in. Kindly assist by in-boxing the details if you know anyone. Have a good day all. -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano ? AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili ? EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa ? Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 ? FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano ? AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili ? EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa ? Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 ? 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Our CSR activities are only made possible through your generous contributions. We have in the past done 3 community service projects, a visit to Mji wa Huruma Children?s Home, a visit to Kenyatta National Hospital CancerWard, contributions to Palmhouse Foundation and currently LYP Mombasa is undertaking Paint A School Project. As LYP, we intend to offers several ways to recognize LYP Club Members, YPs and friends for your much needed support. *Level* *Qualification* Sustaining Member Anyone who contributes Ksh. 500 or more to our project(s) will automatically be recognized as a LYP Sustaining Member Bronze Member Individual whose cumulative giving has reached Ksh. 10,000. Donors will receive a recognition pin Silver Member Individual whose cumulative giving has reached Ksh. 25,000. Donors will receive a recognition pin Gold Member Individual whose cumulative giving has reached Ksh. 50,000. Donors will receive engraved crystal recognition piece and a lapel pin Diamond Member Individual whose cumulative giving has reached Ksh. 100,000. Donors will receive engraved crystal recognition piece and a lapel pin Platinum Member Individual whose cumulative giving has reached Ksh. 500,000. Donors will receive engraved crystal recognition piece and a lapel pin We want to recognize the following YPs (some LYP Club Members) for the continued support. *Donor* * Project Supported* * * * * * * * * *Mji Wa Huruma* *PalmHouse * *Foundation* *KNH* * Cancer Ward* *Paint A School Project* *Totals* Francis Mwangi 1,600 1,000 500 2,000 *5,100* Dan nyutu 2,000 1,000 500 1,000 *4,500* Josephine Kamanthe 1,200 1,000 500 1,000 *3,700* Joy Mwangi 1,000 2,000 *3,000* Donor Requested To Be Anonymous 2,000 *2,000* Kevin Jayanoris 700 1,000 *1,700* Evelyn Gitimu 550 1,000 *1,550* Pamela Njoroge 1,000 500 *1,500* Nelson Mwanzia 1,500 *1,500* Teresah Wafulah 1,500 *1,500* David Kilonzi 1,500 *1,500* Gideon Maingi 300 1,000 *1,300* Truphena 800 500 *1,300* Washington Odhiambo 700 500 *1,200* Jeff Okello 1,000 *1,000* Christopher Kariaku 1,000 *1,000* Muriithi Magiri 500 500 *1,000* Peter Ng?ang?a 1,000 *1,000* Fathiya Mahmoud 1,000 *1,000* Ben Nyuguto 1,000 *1,000* Rueben Shuma 1,000 *1,000* Jackie Mureithi 1,000 *1,000* Dommie Nturibi 1,000 *1,000* James Mutegi 1,000 *1,000* Purity 1,000 *1,000* Judy Matu 1,000 *1,000* Sally Kenyaya 1,000 *1,000* Jessie Kezengwa 1,000 *1,000* Wanjiru Kinywa 300 500 *800* Donor Requested 600 *600* Muita Wangoko 600 *600* Abraham Birech 500 *500* Antony Gichumu 500 *500* Catherine Njiri 500 *500* Christine Gathoni 500 *500* Gichuri Teresa 500 *500* John Gichuru 500 *500* Judy Kaiguire 500 *500* Martin Wangura 500 *500* Mercy Ndirangu 500 *500* Rodaly N. 500 *500* Boniface Mbuki 500 *500* Ann Mwangi 500 *500* Victor Kebati 500 *500* Catherine Wekesa 500 *500* Chris Kariaku 500 *500* Vincent Ogega 500 *500* Sharon Wanyeki 500 *500* Ben Nzibo 500 *500* Mathews Ogutu 400 *400* Frankln terewa 400 *400* Salim Ramadhan 400 *400* Winnie Nabwire 300 *300* Josiah Wachira 300 *300* David Okello 300 *300* Esther Chelagat 300 *300* Joyce Maina 300 *300* Winfred Ndungu 300 *300* Ernest Odour 250 *250* *Totals* *59,600* - Regards YP_Ke Group Moderator -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmwalulu at hotmail.com Wed Apr 7 07:54:04 2010 From: jmwalulu at hotmail.com (Jackson Mwalulu) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:54:04 +0000 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] WHO PAYS THE CHIEF KADHI'S? In-Reply-To: <159069.30779.qm@web31805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <543981.35437.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> , , <4BBC7BFF0200006C0000AD79@mail.anu.ac.ke>, <159069.30779.qm@web31805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The chief kadhi is a constitutional office. It has to be paid from the consolidated account (Tax payers money). But remember muslims also pay taxes. Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:30:30 -0700 From: winnien76 at yahoo.com Subject: [YP_Ke] WHO PAYS THE CHIEF KADHI'S? To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Dear all, I need to understand this, is the chief Kadhi paid from Tax payers money? I heard someone talking about it on TV and wanted to find out the truth of this. And if he is paid from Tax payers money, why is that? NOTE: I dont expect war of words from people. I just need clarity. regards Nyambura Ndungu -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From orinaonka at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 07:46:14 2010 From: orinaonka at yahoo.com (orina Nyamwamu) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] KEJUDE PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED CONSTITUTION In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <532938.757.qm@web111719.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Look why it is dangerous to be patronizing in our conversations "Fourth, Let us not bring into a serious thing like the constitutional debate civil society or NGO cliches...Any good constitution the world over is engrained on a simple principle, That of checks and balances on the various arms of governments. If any constitution meets that remit like we are persuaded at KEJUDE that the proposed constitution does, Lets Vote 'YES' For it and we begin the task of nation building that has eluded? for several years . Any other jargon civil society or NGO's would like to introduce, be they irreducible minimums, principles, do not help us much, it only helps their programmatic issues. Kenya is not a program. And that is why we cannot posit to know more than other citizens, all of us have a stake as Kenyans and there are no half citizens or then the provisions of the RIGHT TO EQUALITY will be pies in the sky?"? Quoting Neto Agostino When shall we respect our brains and our experience; our commitment and our dedication to mother Kenya and just talk to ourselves as brother and sister without always bashing so and so because s/he is a member of this or that group or identity. Cyprian Nyamwamu --- On Wed, 4/7/10, neto agostinho wrote: From: neto agostinho Subject: [YP_Ke] KEJUDE PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED CONSTITUTION To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Cc: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com, "NVK-M MAGEUZI" , jaluo at jaluo.com, jaluo at yahoo.com, kptj-communications at fahamu.org Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 7:01 AM Kenyans For Justice and Development (KEJUDE) issued a press statement on Easter Monday, duly signed by myself, read to the media and later circulated to the various networks by my? fellow compatriot Okoiti Omtatah. That press statement has received various criticisms and critique which are very welcome. There are a few things however i need clarify as we continue engaging in the Constitutional debate and? other debates on National issues. First, For the record, let it be known that KEJUDE supports the Proposed Constitution of Kenya as passed by Parliament a couple of days ago and we are on the verge of activating our networks to engage in a spirited National campaign for a 'YES' Vote on the proposed constitution. I am not sure where in the press statement we issued we campaigned against the Proposed Constitution? i would request those who think otherwise to re-read the statement and derive our implied spirit. Second, as the membership of KEJUDE we put a lot of thinking into the statements we issue, they are a product of several hours of debates and disagreements within our membership before they see the light of day, so whereas we appreciate criticism and critique, we are human and thus bound to falter, we would appreciate thought out and well reasoned critique, not uncalled for scathing? by self proclaimed bigots who know it all and do not even care to listen to what they are saying. I have been told that chewing your words sometimes is a wholesome meal. Third,There is a basic principle of equity that is coined in part and states that monkeys cannot decide? the affairs of the forest. In the present constitutional debate, The church wheoever they are, be it Rev Njue, Cannon Whoever, pastor who have an argument. Their argument is that there is an inclusion of Kadhis courts in the constitution and a clause on abortion, whether this is informed or not, whether this stand point is correct or not is another matter! You cannot rubbish it, it is their stand point. The best we can do is not RAISE OUR VOICES AGAINST THEIRS, we only NEED TO IMPROVE our argument against theirs? Chest thumping here does not yield much, they could be wrong and we could be right that the Kadhis court is harmless but we have to convince them??? It is also not proper to imagine that they do not pose a threat to the constitution, Several people are already hiding behind the church to make sure the draft does not pass, those with huge tracks of illegally acquired land amongst others... so i think they do. So shall we lose a very good document, which in our opinion as KEJUDE, the proposed constitution is, simply because, we took the position of know it all bigots quoting all manner philosophy and lexis to drum our points home and think the other party ( clerics) are ill informed. I resounding NO, is my answer to this....we need to get the church on board, you do not get to do this by telling them that they are stupid. I was told that you can argue to convince me that you are right but you will never argue to convince me that am wrong. Fellow compatriots, it is for this reason we are saying, we are so near a new constitution, We need to embrace the spirit of compromise and see how to convince the church and their perceived faithfuls to get on board. To this extent we have asked the church as KEJUDE to negotiate a pre-referundum MOU with the legislators that they will support ammendments on the offending clauses upon the passage of the proposed constitution. There is mechanism in the proposed constititution that proposes for a referendum on issues we want changed, should the church be defeated at that Referendum then let them hold their peace.So if this is the sort of thing we need to? do to get the Constitution passing, brethren lets do it.Let us not show how much we know or how much we do not know. At this rate we are only interested in those who care for Kenya and Kenyans in general, those who do, compromise and listen to each other. Fourth, Let us not bring into a serious thing like the constitutional debate civil society or NGO cliches...Any good constitution the world over is engrained on a simple principle, That of checks and balances on the various arms of governments. If any constitution meets that remit like we are pursuaded at KEJUDE that the proposed constitution does, Lets Vote 'YES' For it and we begin the task of nation building that has eluded? for several years . Any other jargon civil society or NGO's would like to introduce, be they irreducible minimums, principles, do not help us much, it only helps their programmatic issues. Kenya is not a program. And that is why we cannot posit to know more than other citizens, all of us have a stake as Kenyans and there are no half citizens or then the provisions of the RIGHT TO EQUALITY will be pies in the sky? 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URL: From newsletter at kara.or.ke Wed Apr 7 08:29:40 2010 From: newsletter at kara.or.ke (The Kenya Alliance of Resident Associations (KARA)) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:29:40 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] The KARA Weekly Newsletter Issue No. 262, April 2010 Message-ID: Issue No. 262: Editor's Highlights of the Week: It is a week that the might of political and religious leaders on one end and the public on the other as regards the Proposed Constitution of Kenya will start to come under scrutiny even as the Attorney General is expected to publish the Constitutional Bill within the shortest time possible. Consumers Federation of Kenya (COFEK) is now a reality. We thank Dr. Esther Getambu, Lakeview Estate Residents Association and Lavington Residents Association for renewing their commitment to Kara in 2010. Thank you for reading us. Editor. In this issue and at a glance .... ? Broadband: Is DSTV living on borrowed time? ? Constitution: Kara's call for tolerance on the divergent opinion ? Kara to participate at a rural water mapping exposure visit ? HIV/AIDS: Kara to run a program on protection of human rights ? Kara's new public procurement oversight program on local authorities ? Neighbourhood Kenya - Great and must-read interviews and profiles! ? Kara BTS-19 to tackle the rich vs poor policy options theme What others say - Lawrence Lenayapa; Samora Abisai : "I acknowledge receipt of a copy of the 9th edition of Neighbourhood Kenya journal. The journal is quite informative and educative. I appreciate the good gesture of sending me a copy. Thank you", Lawrence Lenayapa, Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Environment and Mineral Resources. "I note that the political elite have never been genuine in their clamour for reforms, but that their selfish view of the constitution as a tool for acquiring, consolidating and preserving power has threatened to derail the process many times. Thanks to the Committee of Experts and others before them, we are indeed on the threshold of a new constitutional dispensation. I urge all Kenyans of goodwill to turn up in large numbers and endorse the draft in the forthcoming plebiscite", Samora Abisai, a secondary School teacher based in Muhoroni, Kisumu Broadband: Is DSTV living on borrowed time? Writing on mybroadband.co.za on 23rd March Alastair Otter says "if I had to choose between the Internet and DSTV for my future entertainment it would be no contest: internet all the way. Affordable, uncapped broadband is here and I, for one, am thrilled. Not just because it means I can forget about hefty monthly internet bills, or that I can now surf the Internet in all its glory, but also because, in my house, it could give DSTV a run for its money", he says. But he is not alone. The recent monthly subscription US$3 increase by DSTV, Africa's monopoly pay-TV provider did not seem to go down well with its customers across Africa and Kenya in particular. Read-more Constitution: Kara's call for tolerance on the divergent opinion: "But the new constitution will come with a lot of benefits, expectations, responsibilities, obligations and even dangers on the part of the taxpayers. It will never be business as usual. This is because the document will more than ever before re-orient and centrally affect the lives and livelihoods of Kenyans. Read-more HIV/AIDS: Kara to run a program on protection of human rights: Kara is among the 9 selected organizations, including universities and research institutions, to carry out a national program on the fight against HIV/AIDs. Kara had responded to the National AIDs Control Council (NACC) last year's call for proposals under the "TOWA Round 3" national level category. Kara's 1 year program proposal on "enhancing protection of human rights of people living with HIV/AIDs" will be undertaken in 8 districts namely Nairobi East, Nairobi West, Kisumu, Kisii, Kakamega, Bungoma North, Mombasa and Kilifi. It will cost Ksh7M. "Please note that your proposal was reviewed by an independent Ad-Hoc National Review Committee and recommended for funding", said NACC's Mr. Dennis Kamuren in his letter dated 23rd March. Kara takes this opportunity to invite its membership and the general public within the selected districts to express interest of partnership and/or make suggestions on how best the program can be rolled out by sending their views to us at: research at kara.or.ke Kara's new public procurement oversight program on Local Authorities: Kara will from this April and for the next 11 months, and in partnership with government and other stakeholders, keenly focus on the aspect of public procurements and disposal within selected Local Authorities (LA's) on establishing, through research, any possible gaps between policy and practice as regards the implementation of the Public Procurement and Disposal (PP&D) Act of 2005. More importantly, the program will endeavour to inform recommendations to relevant partners on remedial measures. We are proud to be associated and supported by USAID through PactKenya to the tune of Ksh6M. Research work will seek to understand how PP&D activities are carried out by LA's and the extent of public involvement, if any. be contacted within the Municipal Council of Mombasa, City Council of Nairobi, Nakuru Municipal Council and Municipal Council of Machakos. The program will establish Procurement Watch Groups (ProWAG's), engage in Town Hall Forums, among other activities. If you need more information on the program and/or you have suggestions on partnering with Kara, please contact us at research at kara.or.ke Kara to participate at a rural water mapping exposure visit: Kara will participate at a 3-day WaterAid organized exposure visit to Uganda starting 14th April 2010. The visit will accord 10 key water sector managers including Ministry of Water and Irrigation, Water Services Regulatory Board, Water Services Trust Fund amd the selected Water Services Boards representatives the opportunity to study rural water mapping and access. Kara BTS-19 to tackle the rich vs poor policy options theme: The Kara Bi-monthly Talk Series (BTS) 19th session, supported by Hanns Seidel Foundation, will be held on 26th April at Sarova Panafric Hotel from 2pm to 4pm. The theme of discussion will be "Bridging the gap between the rich and the poor - What policy options for Kenya?". Watch this space for the great panel of speakers being lined up for the event. Neighbourhood Kenya - Great interviews and profiles! Get to know what Switzerland ambassador to Nairobi H.E Mr. Georges Martin thinks of his work and Kenya. From the private sector perspective, get to hear what bedevils the housing industry and what the Housing Finance Managing Director Mr. Frank Ireri thinks and is doing about it. On the sugar issues, Ms. Rosemary Mkok, Managing Director, Kenya Sugar Board has all the issues you needed to know about her and the industry. On City Council of Nairobi, City Treasurer Mr. John Ngugi tells it all on the City Treasury's successes and challenges - and many other life-changing stories - only in the April edition of Neighbourhood Kenya! 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URL: From antihongo at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 08:55:35 2010 From: antihongo at gmail.com (Faiza Hassan) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 05:55:35 -0700 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] KEJUDE PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED CONSTITUTION In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Within your membership do u have Muslims? On 4/6/10, neto agostinho wrote: > Kenyans For Justice and Development (KEJUDE) issued a press statement on > Easter Monday, duly signed by myself, read to the media and later circulated > to the various networks by my fellow compatriot Okoiti Omtatah. > That press statement has received various criticisms and critique which are > very welcome. There are a few things however i need clarify as we continue > engaging in the Constitutional debate and other debates on National issues. > First, For the record, let it be known that KEJUDE supports the Proposed > Constitution of Kenya as passed by Parliament a couple of days ago and we > are on the verge of activating our networks to engage in a spirited National > campaign for a 'YES' Vote on the proposed constitution. I am not sure where > in the press statement we issued we campaigned against the Proposed > Constitution? i would request those who think otherwise to re-read the > statement and derive our implied spirit. > Second, as the membership of KEJUDE we put a lot of thinking into the > statements we issue, they are a product of several hours of debates and > disagreements within our membership before they see the light of day, so > whereas we appreciate criticism and critique, we are human and thus bound to > falter, we would appreciate thought out and well reasoned critique, not > uncalled for scathing by self proclaimed bigots who know it all and do not > even care to listen to what they are saying. I have been told that chewing > your words sometimes is a wholesome meal. > Third,There is a basic principle of equity that is coined in part and states > that monkeys cannot decide the affairs of the forest. In the present > constitutional debate, The church wheoever they are, be it Rev Njue, Cannon > Whoever, pastor who have an argument. Their argument is that there is an > inclusion of Kadhis courts in the constitution and a clause on abortion, > whether this is informed or not, whether this stand point is correct or not > is another matter! You cannot rubbish it, it is their stand point. The best > we can do is not RAISE OUR VOICES AGAINST THEIRS, we only NEED TO IMPROVE > our argument against theirs? Chest thumping here does not yield much, they > could be wrong and we could be right that the Kadhis court is harmless but > we have to convince them??? It is also not proper to imagine that they do > not pose a threat to the constitution, Several people are already hiding > behind the church to make sure the draft does not pass, those with huge > tracks of illegally acquired land amongst others... so i think they do. So > shall we lose a very good document, which in our opinion as KEJUDE, the > proposed constitution is, simply because, we took the position of know it > all bigots quoting all manner philosophy and lexis to drum our points home > and think the other party ( clerics) are ill informed. I resounding NO, is > my answer to this....we need to get the church on board, you do not get to > do this by telling them that they are stupid. I was told that you can argue > to convince me that you are right but you will never argue to convince me > that am wrong. Fellow compatriots, it is for this reason we are saying, we > are so near a new constitution, We need to embrace the spirit of compromise > and see how to convince the church and their perceived faithfuls to get on > board. To this extent we have asked the church as KEJUDE to negotiate a > pre-referundum MOU with the legislators that they will support ammendments > on the offending clauses upon the passage of the proposed constitution. > There is mechanism in the proposed constititution that proposes for a > referendum on issues we want changed, should the church be defeated at that > Referendum then let them hold their peace.So if this is the sort of thing we > need to do to get the Constitution passing, brethren lets do it.Let us not > show how much we know or how much we do not know. At this rate we are only > interested in those who care for Kenya and Kenyans in general, those who do, > compromise and listen to each other. > Fourth, Let us not bring into a serious thing like the constitutional debate > civil society or NGO cliches...Any good constitution the world over is > engrained on a simple principle, That of checks and balances on the various > arms of governments. If any constitution meets that remit like we are > pursuaded at KEJUDE that the proposed constitution does, Lets Vote 'YES' For > it and we begin the task of nation building that has eluded for several > years . Any other jargon civil society or NGO's would like to introduce, be > they irreducible minimums, principles, do not help us much, it only helps > their programmatic issues. Kenya is not a program. And that is why we cannot > posit to know more than other citizens, all of us have a stake as Kenyans > and there are no half citizens or then the provisions of the RIGHT TO > EQUALITY will be pies in the sky? > Asanteni sana. > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim > Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda > Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, > Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by > Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 From johngichuru2004 at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 08:57:08 2010 From: johngichuru2004 at gmail.com (Gichuru) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:57:08 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] 3-Bedroom Appartment To Let - Available mid-April Message-ID: A 3-Bedroom appartment is available to let mid-April, at *Sunrise Park Estate near Imara Daima*. 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URL: From denyutu at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 09:33:30 2010 From: denyutu at gmail.com (Dan Nyutu) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:33:30 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] LUGHA YA KIBANDA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Josephine, Thats where you get fresh food every day. At Hilton and the like, its frequently recycled and spiced thus can easily give u stomach upsets. The real thing is at these vibandas. DAN. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:23 PM, josephine Ndambuki wrote: > hehehe.... > i didnt know three quarters of these... > > where have you been frequenting for lunch???? > > Rgds > > > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Dan Nyutu wrote: > >> So you have all have been to the mighty kibanda for a selection of mouth >> watering dishes, but most of you guyz barely understand the logistics of >> operations there, leave alone the street language. So here's a compilation >> of some of the delicacies available on demand, in kibanda language. >> >> 1. *Chapati dunga* - this is where a chapati is rolled and pierced with a >> fork. >> >> 2. *chapati dondosa* - this is where a chapati is served whole and served >> while floating on thick soup. >> >> 3. *chapati msalaba* - this is where a chapati is sliced into four equal >> quarters. The cuttings resemble a cross >> >> 4. *chapati kifagio*- this is where a chapati is sliced into thin many >> vertical strips >> >> 5. *chapati chafua*- this is where a chapati is sliced into many pieces >> as possible. Usually they are sliced into squares that are approximately 3.5 >> centimeteres squared (do the math) >> >> 6. *chapati mbao/ chapati mawe* - this is a dry chapati, those that break >> easily like a piece of wood >> >> 7. *ugali saucer/ wembe/discount*- that one i know you know >> >> 8. *ugali mlima*- this is an enourmous chunk of ugali served only to >> proffessionals and is usually served with a warning. "ukikosa kuimaliza, >> utaongeza kumi". >> >> 9. *Tumbukiz*a - this is where meat is overboiled until the meat is very >> soft. Usually served without salt. Tumbukiza special has no bones >> >> 10. *kahawa kifo*- so you have done kahawa chungu! This is worse. It >> usually contains lots of "kahawa no 1" and is overboiled till its black. its >> then served without sugar. Its literrally burnt coffee >> >> 11. *kaa ndani-* this is where a mandazi is made an incision at the side >> and a delicacy inserted inside of it. So kaa ndani ya sausage is a mandazi >> with a sausage in it. >> >> 12. *jembe ya meno-* toothpick >> >> 13. *samaki cassette*- this is fish which has bones in it. Its served >> whole whereby a person starts eating it on one side( side A ). >> Once done, its then turned to the other side (side B). A successful >> completed eating mission is certified once the only thing left on the plate >> are intact bones of the fish and the head. >> >> 14. *karara-* chapati nusu >> >> 15. *combat*- githeri >> >> 16. *mix/ missile / kadhalika*- this is mchanganyiko of everything on the >> soup menu. Involves madondo, sukuma, nyama, ndengu etc. Na inasemwa na >> style, so dont go ati nipatie missile 20! >> It goes like "haya, hebu nibonde na chapo mix ya kaufourty, na ikuje >> chapchap kabla niachwe na ndege" >> >> 17. *teargas*- pilipili >> >> >> -- >> Daniel Nyutu >> >> Strategy Consultant >> Strategic Leadership Center International >> Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100 >> Nairobi, Kenya. >> Tel: 3872252/ 3877637/ 2067622 >> Email: dnyutu at gmail.com >> Cell: 0728-200075 >> >> "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting >> different results" >> >> Albert Einstein (Attributed) >> US (German born) Physicist (1879-1955) >> >> -- >> TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by >> Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By >> Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen >> Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head >> by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of >> Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The >> Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano >> >> AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In >> 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & >> Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight >> Swahili >> >> EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, >> Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa >> >> Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 >> >> FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 >> 208 >> > > > > -- > Best Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > Tel: +254 723 736 086 > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by > Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > -- Daniel Nyutu Strategy Consultant Strategic Leadership Center International Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100 Nairobi, Kenya. Tel: 3872252/ 3877637/ 2067622 Email: dnyutu at gmail.com Cell: 0728-200075 "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" Albert Einstein (Attributed) US (German born) Physicist (1879-1955) -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sifawefu at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 09:58:38 2010 From: sifawefu at gmail.com (Sifa Wefu) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:58:38 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] LMS Guest house (SDA owned) In-Reply-To: <456632.70466.qm@web31811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <456632.70466.qm@web31811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hey Winfred, hpe you goth the info you were looking for. Facilities are very basic you know bed, basic meals etc etc. Nothing much to write home about. Facilities are affordable, clean and safe. Staff very helpful. I have stayed there on several occasions so i know what i am talking about. Being SDA meals are according to the SDA faith. No nyama. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:03 AM, WINFRED NYAMBURA wrote: > Hi guys, > I am looking for the contact details for the above guest house urgently. I > would like to know what they offer. please send me details of the above > guest house. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* shiko eva > > *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Wed, April 7, 2010 9:53:16 AM > *Subject:* [YP_Ke] Househelp needed > > Hi all, > > Evalyne is hiring a househelp preferably a middle aged woman live in. > Kindly assist by in-boxing the details if you know anyone. > > Have a good day all. > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by > Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by > Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kirugu.mungai at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 10:11:25 2010 From: kirugu.mungai at gmail.com (Kirugu Mungai) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:11:25 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] LYP Individual Contributions Recognition Program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This s the beginning of a caste system in YP!!! Let each of us contribute what one can BUT we remain equals. These classes are discriminatory. There are millionaires here, the middle class and the poor in this forum, we don't have to know what one is worth here, i can foresee the introduction of different classes of membership discouraging members here. No one is superior here, everyone is equal. We shouldn?t segregate one another like politicians do. Regards, Mungai. On 4/7/10, Moderator YP_Ke wrote: > > *LYP Individual Contributions Recognition Program.* > > > > One of our goals as The League of Young Professionalsis doing Community Service Projects as a way of giving back to the society, > and making the world a better place. > > > > Our CSR activities are only made possible through your generous > contributions. We have in the past done 3 community service projects, a > visit to Mji wa Huruma Children?s Home, > a visit to Kenyatta National Hospital CancerWard, contributions to Palmhouse > Foundation and currently LYP Mombasa > is undertaking Paint A School Project. > > > > As LYP, we intend to offers several ways to recognize LYP Club Members, YPs > and friends for your much needed support. > > > > > > *Level* > > *Qualification* > > Sustaining Member > > Anyone who contributes Ksh. 500 or more to our project(s) will > automatically be recognized as a LYP Sustaining Member > > Bronze Member > > Individual whose cumulative giving has reached Ksh. 10,000. Donors will > receive a recognition pin > > Silver Member > > Individual whose cumulative giving has reached Ksh. 25,000. Donors will > receive a recognition pin > > Gold Member > > Individual whose cumulative giving has reached Ksh. 50,000. Donors will > receive engraved crystal recognition piece and a lapel pin > > Diamond Member > > Individual whose cumulative giving has reached Ksh. 100,000. Donors will > receive engraved crystal recognition piece and a lapel pin > > Platinum Member > > Individual whose cumulative giving has reached Ksh. 500,000. Donors will > receive engraved crystal recognition piece and a lapel pin > > > > We want to recognize the following YPs (some LYP Club Members) for the > continued support. > > > > *Donor* > > * Project Supported* > > * * > > * * > > * * > > * * > > > > *Mji Wa Huruma* > > *PalmHouse * > > *Foundation* > > *KNH* > > * Cancer Ward* > > *Paint A School Project* > > *Totals* > > Francis Mwangi > > 1,600 > > 1,000 > > 500 > > 2,000 > > *5,100* > > Dan nyutu > > 2,000 > > 1,000 > > 500 > > 1,000 > > *4,500* > > Josephine Kamanthe > > 1,200 > > 1,000 > > 500 > > 1,000 > > *3,700* > > Joy Mwangi > > > > > > 1,000 > > 2,000 > > *3,000* > > Donor Requested To Be Anonymous > > > > > > 2,000 > > > > *2,000* > > Kevin Jayanoris > > 700 > > 1,000 > > > > > > *1,700* > > Evelyn Gitimu > > 550 > > > > > > 1,000 > > *1,550* > > Pamela Njoroge > > 1,000 > > > > 500 > > > > *1,500* > > Nelson Mwanzia > > 1,500 > > > > > > > > *1,500* > > Teresah Wafulah > > > > 1,500 > > > > > > *1,500* > > David Kilonzi > > > > > > 1,500 > > > > *1,500* > > Gideon Maingi > > 300 > > 1,000 > > > > > > *1,300* > > Truphena > > 800 > > > > 500 > > > > *1,300* > > Washington Odhiambo > > 700 > > > > 500 > > > > *1,200* > > Jeff Okello > > 1,000 > > > > > > > > *1,000* > > Christopher Kariaku > > 1,000 > > > > > > > > *1,000* > > Muriithi Magiri > > > > 500 > > 500 > > > > *1,000* > > Peter Ng?ang?a > > > > > > 1,000 > > > > *1,000* > > Fathiya Mahmoud > > > > > > 1,000 > > > > *1,000* > > Ben Nyuguto > > > > > > > > 1,000 > > *1,000* > > Rueben Shuma > > > > > > > > 1,000 > > *1,000* > > Jackie Mureithi > > > > > > > > 1,000 > > *1,000* > > Dommie Nturibi > > > > > > > > 1,000 > > *1,000* > > James Mutegi > > > > > > > > 1,000 > > *1,000* > > Purity > > > > > > > > 1,000 > > *1,000* > > Judy Matu > > > > > > > > 1,000 > > *1,000* > > Sally Kenyaya > > > > > > > > 1,000 > > *1,000* > > Jessie Kezengwa > > > > > > > > 1,000 > > *1,000* > > Wanjiru Kinywa > > 300 > > 500 > > > > > > *800* > > Donor Requested > > > > > > 600 > > > > *600* > > Muita Wangoko > > > > > > 600 > > > > *600* > > Abraham Birech > > 500 > > > > > > > > *500* > > Antony Gichumu > > > > > > 500 > > > > *500* > > Catherine Njiri > > > > > > 500 > > > > *500* > > Christine Gathoni > > > > > > 500 > > > > *500* > > Gichuri Teresa > > > > > > 500 > > > > *500* > > John Gichuru > > > > > > 500 > > > > *500* > > Judy Kaiguire > > > > > > 500 > > > > *500* > > Martin Wangura > > > > > > 500 > > > > *500* > > Mercy Ndirangu > > > > > > 500 > > > > *500* > > Rodaly N. > > > > > > 500 > > > > *500* > > Boniface Mbuki > > > > > > 500 > > > > *500* > > Ann Mwangi > > > > > > 500 > > > > *500* > > Victor Kebati > ... > > [Message clipped] -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From litshooz at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 10:45:59 2010 From: litshooz at gmail.com (maina ndiritu) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:45:59 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Can Moi run again for the presidency ? Message-ID: <00a401cad661$1bad6280$53082780$@com> Wenzangu , I am not suggesting that he will , with the new constitution in place , does it recognize him as having served or can he jump into the bandwagon and give it a run for his money ? -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pepity at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 11:05:58 2010 From: pepity at yahoo.com (Janet mafunga) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Should I marry an uneducated House Wife? In-Reply-To: References: <251951.14209.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <824092.82802.qm@web111718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Brooklyn, I hope you can Ereng faster than the man himself. ________________________________ From: irene mutemba To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 3:54:59 PM Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Should I marry an uneducated House Wife? Brooklyn... Run! Run for the hills! On 4/7/10, Jectone Ndunya wrote: > Am soon making a resolve. After listening to many story about working class > Chicks from my friends relatives etc........am chickening out from the > learned Women's table? and is headed for the above................. > > Before every one is invited....... should i go ahead? > > Brooklyn is in my list soo...................!!! since non of you ever sent > a CV. SHE IS NOW MINE AND THE LIKES OF NYONGESA MUST COIL THEIR TALES, BOW > THEIR HEADS AND WALK AWAY. > > > > Your advice please > > Jex > > > > > > > > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim > Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda > Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, > Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by > Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > -- Sent from my mobile device -- 2 Days to go!!!? HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? 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URL: From Angaluki at aol.com Wed Apr 7 11:13:29 2010 From: Angaluki at aol.com (Angaluki at aol.com) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:13:29 EDT Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Can Moi run again for the presidency ? Message-ID: <10892.3be2c8b3.38edfb19@aol.com> Litshooz, Constitutions, even for simple organizations, place term limits on "successive" terms. So technically, leaders whose terms have been broken can run again. However, the reason leaders don't run again is not because of constitutional restrictions, but rather due to principle and their own integrity. They don't want to appear greedy and create the impression that they think that there are no other people who can lead but them. Indeed, there are leaders who have run again after their terms were broken. Israel, Germany, France, India... are some of the examples that quickly come to mind. So yes, although I don't know the exact wording of that term limit clause in our constitution, Moi can run again if he's daft and selfish enough to think that Kenya is his private property and only he can lead it. AM In a message dated 4/7/2010 9:52:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, litshooz at gmail.com writes: Wenzangu , I am not suggesting that he will , with the new constitution in place , does it recognize him as having served or can he jump into the bandwagon and give it a run for his money ? -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com Wed Apr 7 13:40:09 2010 From: Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com (Dickens Odhiambo) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:40:09 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] -: Sex pest in Parklands? Message-ID: > Askofu Kurias, > If Hon. Fred Gumo does not protect this Constituent, I will remove > him 2012 kabisa. > > Sex pest in Parklands? > From: K24TV | April 07, 2010 | 111 > views > A business tycoon of Asian origin living in Parklands is allegedly raping > and sexually harassing Asian women in Parklands area. > Farah Habib, A widow alleges well known Asian businessman in the Parklands > area raped and sexually molested her, and when she tried to go to the > police for help, the tycoon allegedly molested her further. > ... (more info) > (less info) View comments, related videos, and more > > From newsletter at kara.or.ke Wed Apr 7 09:09:43 2010 From: newsletter at kara.or.ke (The Kenya Alliance of Resident Associations (KARA)) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:09:43 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] The KARA Weekly Newsletter Issue No. 262, April 2010 Message-ID: Issue No. 262: Editor's Highlights of the Week: It is a week that the might of political and religious leaders on one end and the public on the other as regards the Proposed Constitution of Kenya will start to come under scrutiny even as the Attorney General is expected to publish the Constitutional Bill within the shortest time possible. At long last the Consumers Federation of Kenya (COFEK) is now a reality to check the excesses of unscrupulous businesses and institutions offering the public a raw deal. We will get more details as and when we receive them from COFEK. We had a successful AGM, many thanks to our members. We appreciate Dr. Esther Getambu, Lakeview Estate Residents Association and Lavington Residents Association for renewing their commitment to Kara in 2010. Thank you for reading us. Editor. In this issue and at a glance .... ? Broadband: Is DSTV living on borrowed time? ? Constitution: Kara's call for tolerance on the divergent opinion ? Kara to participate at a rural water mapping exposure visit ? HIV/AIDS: Kara to run a program on protection of human rights ? Kara's new public procurement oversight program on local authorities ? Neighbourhood Kenya - Great and must-read interviews and profiles! ? Kara BTS-19 to tackle the rich vs poor policy options theme What others say - Lawrence Lenayapa; Samora Abisai : "I acknowledge receipt of a copy of the 9th edition of Neighbourhood Kenya journal. The journal is quite informative and educative. I appreciate the good gesture of sending me a copy. Thank you", Mr. Lawrence Lenayapa, Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Environment and Mineral Resources. "I note that the political elite have never been genuine in their clamour for reforms, but that their selfish view of the constitution as a tool for acquiring, consolidating and preserving power has threatened to derail the process many times. Thanks to the Committee of Experts and others before them, we are indeed on the threshold of a new constitutional dispensation. I urge all Kenyans of goodwill to turn up in large numbers and endorse the draft in the forthcoming plebiscite", Mr. Samora Abisai, a secondary School teacher based in Muhoroni, Kisumu Broadband: Is DSTV living on borrowed time? Writing on mybroadband.co.za on 23rd March Alastair Otter says "if I had to choose between the Internet and DSTV for my future entertainment it would be no contest: internet all the way. Affordable, uncapped broadband is here and I, for one, am thrilled. Not just because it means I can forget about hefty monthly internet bills, or that I can now surf the Internet in all its glory, but also because, in my house, it could give DSTV a run for its money", he says. But he is not alone. The recent monthly subscription US$3 increase by DSTV, Africa's monopoly pay-TV provider did not seem to go down well with its customers across Africa and Kenya in particular. Read-more Constitution: Kara's call for tolerance on the divergent opinion: "But the new constitution will come with a lot of benefits, expectations, responsibilities, obligations and even dangers on the part of the taxpayers. It will never be business as usual. This is because the document will more than ever before re-orient and centrally affect the lives and livelihoods of Kenyans. Read-more HIV/AIDS: Kara to run a program on protection of human rights: Kara is among the 9 selected organizations, including universities and research institutions, to carry out a national program on the fight against HIV/AIDs. Kara had responded to the National AIDs Control Council (NACC) last year's call for proposals under the "TOWA Round 3" national level category. Kara's 1 year program proposal on "enhancing protection of human rights of people living with HIV/AIDs" will be undertaken in 8 districts namely Nairobi East, Nairobi West, Kisumu, Kisii, Kakamega, Bungoma North, Mombasa and Kilifi. It will cost Ksh7M. "Please note that your proposal was reviewed by an independent Ad-Hoc National Review Committee and recommended for funding", said NACC's Mr. Dennis Kamuren in his letter dated 23rd March. Kara takes this opportunity to invite its membership and the general public within the selected districts to express interest of partnership and/or make suggestions on how best the program can be rolled out by sending their views to us at: research at kara.or.ke Kara's new public procurement oversight program on Local Authorities: Kara will from this April and for the next 11 months, and in partnership with government and other stakeholders, keenly focus on the aspect of public procurements and disposal within selected Local Authorities (LA's) on establishing, through research, any possible gaps between policy and practice as regards the implementation of the Public Procurement and Disposal (PP&D) Act of 2005. More importantly, the program will endeavour to inform recommendations to relevant partners on remedial measures. We are proud to be associated and supported by USAID through PactKenya to the tune of Ksh6M. Research work will seek to understand how PP&D activities are carried out by LA's and the extent of public involvement, if any. The program shall be conducted within the City Council of Nairobi and the Municipal Councils of Nakuru, Machakos and Mombasa. The program will establish Procurement Watch Groups (ProWAG's), engage in Town Hall Forums, among other activities. If you need more information on the program and/or you have suggestions on partnering with Kara, please contact us at research at kara.or.ke Kara to participate at a rural water mapping exposure visit: Kara will participate at a 3-day WaterAid organized exposure visit to Uganda starting 14th April 2010. The visit will accord 10 key water sector managers including Ministry of Water and Irrigation, Water Services Regulatory Board, Water Services Trust Fund amd the selected Water Services Boards representatives the opportunity to study rural water mapping and access. 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But strength of purpose and self-discipline are decisive factors in the competitive marketplace. The confidence of the people around a leader is based upon the leader`s strength of purpose. To go directly to point: Fidel Odinga, Uhuru Kenyatta, Raila Odinga, Oburu Odinga, Jimmy Kibaki, Gideon Moi, Mdavadi etc. Were all first known because of their fathers. But among the list above there are sand and sugars too. I do leave that for you Kenyans to differentiate who among them is sand and through away and keep the sugar. Long, Long time ago, before almost all people in this forum were born, a stupid scientist said that, thievery, slavery, poverty, wealth are inherited through genes. The man said that there may be a gene determining that if your father is poor you will automatically be poor. A girrafe give birth always to a giraffe is that not true or not. So how did Girrafe got their tall necks while cows did not?. Animal farm, all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others: we have to drink milk to be healthy inorder to rule you, is that not the principle?. Wealth is for inheritance since there is something to inherit, but what material do you inherite from a poor father or mother?. Kenyan politics have not been pure, look at even the present Mps, ministers, prime minister, president: They do not pay tax,while they get a lot of tax payers money, those who played loyalty since 1963 or joined along the way have big lands in most of the fertile soil in Kenya today, no sweat just play stupid and always remember to say YES Mr. PRESIDENT, IS THAT SO, I THINK SO, I AM WITH YOU IN THE SAME MIND, MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND ADD YOU MORE YEARS etc.. Where do that money go to?. It is the same money which they can or may use to kick away or compete with during any next election. And of course win a son of a poor man who did not have chances to steal the tax payers money or land. But that will also depends on the voters like you and me who are hunging just on a thread to be bribed, used as a tribal soldier, violater, rapist to scare women and give votes, buy changa, beer, vodka, bang, mirra, sing songs, praise even the devils, etc. whatever you call it The prime minister had worked all his life to achieve almost what he is today, gone to jail, detained without trial, joined Moi when moi was to be impeached, join Kibaki to sing tosha, the legend Tosha thing in 2002, NARC, ODM, lost presidential election etc. But if he still wants something good from Kenyans let him not set his son, Fidel Odinga to seek for a parliamentary election in 2012. Reason: infact the DEVIL one day said these words: `A GOOD AND HOPEFUL START CAN BE RUINED BY EVIL END`. What might happen in 2012?. The rest you as mature adults can guess yourself. Paul Nyandoto -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator From Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com Wed Apr 7 14:16:48 2010 From: Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com (Dickens Odhiambo) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:16:48 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] OGEGO MUST GO :- Kenya missions overstaffed by 472 idlers Message-ID: Kenya missions overstaffed by 472 idlers By Caroline Wafula, April 7 2010 Kenyan diplomatic missions abroad are heavily overstaffed with some carrying twice their capacity, according to findings by a parliamentary committee. According to a report tabled before the House by the parliamentary committee on Defence and Foreign Relations, the total authorised staff capacity in Kenya's 52 missions abroad should be 355. But current figures indicate that the current situation in these missions is to the tune of 827 staff. Favourite destination missions are London, New York, Washington and Moscow, which are said to fetch attractive salary packages. The London mission has 44 staff against a capacity of 22, New York 28 against a capacity of 9, Moscow 22 against an authorised capacity of 15, and Washington 35 against 23. More... From josiah.rasugu at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 16:12:20 2010 From: josiah.rasugu at gmail.com (Josiah Rasugu) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:12:20 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] Sunday April11th Detox at The Lounge Dj Hustla and Sound Of Fujun in da Mix.Fri April23rd Sinnergy Trilogy Afro Caribbean Edition at Loft BarFly, Tunes by Sound Of Fujun, Dj Nodeh and Cut Produductions. 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On 4/7/10, Kirugu Mungai wrote: > This s the beginning of a caste system in YP!!! > > Let each of us contribute what one can BUT we remain equals. These classes > are discriminatory. There are millionaires here, the middle class and the > poor in this forum, we don't have to know what one is worth here, i can > foresee the introduction of different classes of membership discouraging > members here. > > > > No one is superior here, everyone is equal. We shouldn?t segregate one > another like politicians do. > > Regards, > Mungai. > > > On 4/7/10, Moderator YP_Ke wrote: >> >> *LYP Individual Contributions Recognition Program.* >> >> >> >> One of our goals as The League of Young >> Professionalsis doing Community Service Projects as a >> way of giving back to the society, >> and making the world a better place. >> >> >> >> Our CSR activities are only made possible through your generous >> contributions. We have in the past done 3 community service projects, a >> visit to Mji wa Huruma Children?s >> Home, >> a visit to Kenyatta National Hospital >> CancerWard, >> contributions to Palmhouse >> Foundation and currently LYP Mombasa >> is undertaking Paint A School Project. >> >> >> >> As LYP, we intend to offers several ways to recognize LYP Club Members, >> YPs >> and friends for your much needed support. >> >> >> >> >> >> *Level* >> >> *Qualification* >> >> Sustaining Member >> >> Anyone who contributes Ksh. 500 or more to our project(s) will >> automatically be recognized as a LYP Sustaining Member >> >> Bronze Member >> >> Individual whose cumulative giving has reached Ksh. 10,000. Donors will >> receive a recognition pin >> >> Silver Member >> >> Individual whose cumulative giving has reached Ksh. 25,000. Donors will >> receive a recognition pin >> >> Gold Member >> >> Individual whose cumulative giving has reached Ksh. 50,000. Donors will >> receive engraved crystal recognition piece and a lapel pin >> >> Diamond Member >> >> Individual whose cumulative giving has reached Ksh. 100,000. Donors will >> receive engraved crystal recognition piece and a lapel pin >> >> Platinum Member >> >> Individual whose cumulative giving has reached Ksh. 500,000. Donors will >> receive engraved crystal recognition piece and a lapel pin >> >> >> >> We want to recognize the following YPs (some LYP Club Members) for the >> continued support. >> >> >> >> *Donor* >> >> * Project Supported* >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> >> >> *Mji Wa Huruma* >> >> *PalmHouse * >> >> *Foundation* >> >> *KNH* >> >> * Cancer Ward* >> >> *Paint A School Project* >> >> *Totals* >> >> Francis Mwangi >> >> 1,600 >> >> 1,000 >> >> 500 >> >> 2,000 >> >> *5,100* >> >> Dan nyutu >> >> 2,000 >> >> 1,000 >> >> 500 >> >> 1,000 >> >> *4,500* >> >> Josephine Kamanthe >> >> 1,200 >> >> 1,000 >> >> 500 >> >> 1,000 >> >> *3,700* >> >> Joy Mwangi >> >> >> >> >> >> 1,000 >> >> 2,000 >> >> *3,000* >> >> Donor Requested To Be Anonymous >> >> >> >> >> >> 2,000 >> >> >> >> *2,000* >> >> Kevin Jayanoris >> >> 700 >> >> 1,000 >> >> >> >> >> >> *1,700* >> >> Evelyn Gitimu >> >> 550 >> >> >> >> >> >> 1,000 >> >> *1,550* >> >> Pamela Njoroge >> >> 1,000 >> >> >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> *1,500* >> >> Nelson Mwanzia >> >> 1,500 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *1,500* >> >> Teresah Wafulah >> >> >> >> 1,500 >> >> >> >> >> >> *1,500* >> >> David Kilonzi >> >> >> >> >> >> 1,500 >> >> >> >> *1,500* >> >> Gideon Maingi >> >> 300 >> >> 1,000 >> >> >> >> >> >> *1,300* >> >> Truphena >> >> 800 >> >> >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> *1,300* >> >> Washington Odhiambo >> >> 700 >> >> >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> *1,200* >> >> Jeff Okello >> >> 1,000 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *1,000* >> >> Christopher Kariaku >> >> 1,000 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *1,000* >> >> Muriithi Magiri >> >> >> >> 500 >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> *1,000* >> >> Peter Ng?ang?a >> >> >> >> >> >> 1,000 >> >> >> >> *1,000* >> >> Fathiya Mahmoud >> >> >> >> >> >> 1,000 >> >> >> >> *1,000* >> >> Ben Nyuguto >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1,000 >> >> *1,000* >> >> Rueben Shuma >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1,000 >> >> *1,000* >> >> Jackie Mureithi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1,000 >> >> *1,000* >> >> Dommie Nturibi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1,000 >> >> *1,000* >> >> James Mutegi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1,000 >> >> *1,000* >> >> Purity >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1,000 >> >> *1,000* >> >> Judy Matu >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1,000 >> >> *1,000* >> >> Sally Kenyaya >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1,000 >> >> *1,000* >> >> Jessie Kezengwa >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1,000 >> >> *1,000* >> >> Wanjiru Kinywa >> >> 300 >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> >> >> *800* >> >> Donor Requested >> >> >> >> >> >> 600 >> >> >> >> *600* >> >> Muita Wangoko >> >> >> >> >> >> 600 >> >> >> >> *600* >> >> Abraham Birech >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *500* >> >> Antony Gichumu >> >> >> >> >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> *500* >> >> Catherine Njiri >> >> >> >> >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> *500* >> >> Christine Gathoni >> >> >> >> >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> *500* >> >> Gichuri Teresa >> >> >> >> >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> *500* >> >> John Gichuru >> >> >> >> >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> *500* >> >> Judy Kaiguire >> >> >> >> >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> *500* >> >> Martin Wangura >> >> >> >> >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> *500* >> >> Mercy Ndirangu >> >> >> >> >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> *500* >> >> Rodaly N. >> >> >> >> >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> *500* >> >> Boniface Mbuki >> >> >> >> >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> *500* >> >> Ann Mwangi >> >> >> >> >> >> 500 >> >> >> >> *500* >> >> Victor Kebati >> ... >> >> [Message clipped] > > -- > 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? > > LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with > the aim of. > > ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters > in the school. > ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing > sporting items e.g. footballs. > ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing > sanitary pads for the girls > > Date: April 10th 2010 > > Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand > papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. > > For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 > > To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP > Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: > 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 > > Warmest Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > LYP Club Administrator > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator From victornjenga at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 14:43:30 2010 From: victornjenga at gmail.com (Victor Njenga) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:43:30 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] RS 232 cable In-Reply-To: <449338.71022.qm@web62407.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <97df5fd1003160759y6daaac65ga234beec3927f8a2@mail.gmail.com> <449338.71022.qm@web62407.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Steve, Is it the 25 or 9 pin connectors? Do you have the configuration (modem, null modem straight thro' etc) ? I can make the cable for you, if you give me the requirements. Regards Victor On 4/7/10, Steve Gatoto wrote: > Hi guys, > Anyone have an idea where i can get an RS 232 cable with female connectors > on both ends. I need to configure some digital receivers ASAP. Went round > town jana looking for it in "all" shops i could come across- Ebrahims, > Bestel, etc., no luck. 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HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator From oldmoshi at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 14:29:55 2010 From: oldmoshi at gmail.com (Yona Maro) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:29:55 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] John the Baptists of Our Times Message-ID: It was Father Charles Coughlin who once stated, ?I will confront the Herods by name and facts, even though my head will be served on golden platter?? He was drawing a parallel between his own mission and that of John the Baptist whose head was severed and served on a platter because of his reproof of King Herod?s sinfulness. He was vociferously opposed to the economic and social reforms of President Franklin Roosevelt, collectively known as the New Deal. In spite of his spirituality and yearning to work for God, King David strayed, not such much because he was tempted, but because he had the power to appropriate the object of his temptation. Many men lust after people?s wife, but may not succumb to this temptation, not due to their high moral fiber, but because they lack the wherewithal to take possession of this curvaceous woman that is a neighbor?s wife. So, those in power may not always be more sinful than the common man, but they have greater means to attain their heart desires, be them lofty or degenerate, altruistic or villainous, exemplary or murky. Those in power personify the powers of the government and have control over vast resources. Therefore, they are natural magnets for sycophants and opportunists. They are also irresistible lures for women and other sirens of life. Consequently, they are subject to greater temptation, as they can be heady with the perks of power, captivated by a swarm of seductive women and giddy with the flatteries of sycophants. Not surprisingly, they are more prone to err. As a result, it is necessary, for their own good and that of the public, that they are subjected to unremitting criticisms. These criticisms help to remind them of their limitations and sensitize them to the fact that in spite of the loftiness of their positions and expansiveness of their powers, they remain as fallible as, even the forgotten and utterly powerless destitute. No wonder, the ancient Chinese philosopher, Confucius, enjoined his followers to ?criticize an erring ruler fearlessly in behalf of the common good?. The unction of God provides the moral courage and moral authority, and the pulpit, a sacrosanct platform for this important service to the society ? fearless censure of a sinful ruler. Having taken Uriah?s wife, Bathsheba, and then plotted and executed his death, King David was confronted by a man of God, Nathan. Nathan told David of his sinfulness, laying bare his hypocrisy and double standards. John the Baptist denounced King Herod for taking his brother?s wife and for ?all the evil which Herod had done?. King Herod arrested him, imprisoned him and finally beheaded him. As iniquitous as the African society is, why are our men of God not reprimanding the ruling elite and asking them to repent of their wicked ways? The power elite are corrupt, rapacious and lawless. They steal public funds, flout the law, trample the collective will of the people, and persecute and murder political opponents. Does the Christian creed acclaim any of these? Definitely, it does not. Why then is the church leadership not speaking out against these evils of the ruling class? This is because they lack the Spirit of God, and therefore the courage to speak out against the immoralities of the Herods of our time. Courage comes from God. Consequently, no true man of God can be a coward. However, many of our pastors and bishops are not actually working for God. Many of them do not have the calling of God; they are on their own self-serving missions. Secondly, what you do not have you cannot give. The religious elite are as sinful as the political elite. Despite their much vaunted ?born again? credentials, they are still as snobbish, selfish, dishonest and lecherous as the most degenerate of the African society. They dispossess their members, including the very poor, of their income, in the name of tithes and offerings, to maintain an awe-inspiring life style: dwell in magnificent mansions, continually spruce up their lavish wardrobes, maintain a fleet of luxury cars, indulge their fancies, etc. They pervert the gospel of Jesus Christ with their prosperity doctrine. Their prosperity doctrine gives the impression that the central theme of Christianity is the acquisition of wealth and the enjoyment of life. They harp on sowing of seeds, preaching that wealth, that object of obsession of the African society, will readily accrue to those who sow seeds. The sowing of seed goes to line the pastor?s pocket and enlarge his financial empire. The essence of Christianity is salvation. Wealth, health and other blessings are secondary outcomes, things that will be added to the lives of Christians after they have sought ?first the kingdom of God and all its righteousness?. So, according to the Bible, wealth does not come from sowing seeds, but by seeking the kingdom of God and all his righteousness. Today, how many pastors genuinely endeavor to teach their flock how to seek and find the kingdom of God and all its righteousness? Very few, because that will shift the emphasis away from money, money doctrine which will in turn reduce the flow of seeds and other forms of money into the pastor?s coffers. They quote with superfluous flippancy Malachi Chapter 3 verse 10, ?bring your tithes and offerings? into God?s house, so ?that there may be food? in God?s house. They emphasize ?bring your tithes in to my storehouse?, but understate ?so there will be food in my storehouse?. The tithe is for food in the house of God. It is for the Commonwealth of believers, and not expressly for the enrichment of the pastors. In the early Christian Church, the church?s money was used for the general good of the believers. Today, in many churches, it is solely for the enrichment of the pastors. John the Baptist stood out from the greed, falsehood, arrogance and hypocrisy of his time. Our pastors are part of the greed, falsehood, arrogance and hypocrisy of our time. He dwelt in the wilderness, that is, literally and figuratively, he was not a part of the worldliness of his time. They luxuriate in affluence and ostentation, that is, they are part of the worldliness of our time. Therefore, he had the boldness to condemn the evils of the King of his era and urge repentance. Therefore, they lack the audacity to denounce the ills of the rulers of our era and preach repentance. Thus, there is no John the Baptist of our time. -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grnyongesa at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 16:13:47 2010 From: grnyongesa at yahoo.com (George Nyongesa) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re:*** Mock Referendum on Draft Constitution of Kenya *** - Results Update 4.40 PM EAT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <35966.15971.qm@web51702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> George Nyongesa-I vote YES --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Harry wrote: From: Harry Subject: [YP_Ke] *** Mock Referendum on Draft Constitution of Kenya *** - Results Update 4.40 PM EAT To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com, youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com, "Harrison Mumia N" Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 4:33 PM Dear All, I request all of you to engage in a mock referendum on the draft Constitution of Kenya. All you need to do is put down your name, and against it a?yes (YES) Y?or?no (NO) N.? ? Rules: Do not vote twice Put both your names Don't give any reasons for your choice You can abstain Do you Support the Draft Constitution?? Harrison?Mumia???Yes Ongoro Onjuro - Yes? Rachel Karoki - No Cleophas Chesoli - No Maina Ndiritu - Yes Killion Nyamwanya - Yes Jared Ariemba - Yes Antony Maina - No Davis Adieno - Yes Ambasa Elija - Yes Joseph Makokha - No Victoria Mtai - Yes Hirum Mwangi - Yes Joshua Liwindi - Yes Duncun Mukora - Yes Godwin Nyenzo - Yes Betty Achieng - Yes Allex Tallam - Yes Isaac Otieno - Yes Maggie Akish - Yes Justina Nyongo - Yes Apindi Ruth - Yes Nictor Wangusi - Yes Robert Kariuki - Yes Patrick Mbullo - Yes James Murithi - No Judy Miriga - Yes Results..... Yes -?22 No -?5 ****Ann Kamaus' vote was disqualified since someone attempted to vote on her behalf.? ** Cleophas Chesolu had appeared twice and that has been corrected. Total Votes Cast -?27 -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? ? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. ? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ? Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls ? Date: April 10th 2010 ? Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. ? For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 ? To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 ? Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator ? To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From georgemboya at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 16:37:23 2010 From: georgemboya at yahoo.com (George mboya) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Daniel Arap Moi should leave Kenyans alone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <567937.55286.qm@web54104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Sagongonyi, Moi was so wrong in so many things that the fact that he talked about experts which we used does not mean anything and will never whitewash his dirty deeds. We will only forgive him for being our elder and our President for 24 years but we will never forget the dark days he exposed us to. In this he looses moral authority to convincingly advise. I also do not buy this two centres of power propaganda. This has successfully worked in several countries. The current and past Kenyan leaders due to corruption obviously feared and loathed control from any other quarter. Thats why the all powerful presidency was and still is preffered by the corrupt to avoid questions from other centres. It is now about checks and balances my friend. Even without a new constitution, we have an increasingly informed citizenry who will act as the other centre of power should we be denied this through the constitution. Thanks Only when it is dark enough can you see the stars!! --- On Wed, 4/7/10, sagongonyi chemurwok wrote: From: sagongonyi chemurwok Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Daniel Arap Moi should leave Kenyans alone To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 11:42 AM George, I am not defending Moi, I am just stating what is obvious. If you want to continue with the old song that Moi did this and that, that is your problem. Do not forget that Moi ran this country with many of the current politicians with your Uncle Raila included. The issue is not about what Moi did or did not do, it is whether Moi has a right to give a stand on any issue in this country. It is also whether? you have any right to silence anybody who would like to give an opinion and where you derive such powers. The proposed constitution gives people freedom of association, freedom of speech, etc. I have not read where it says with the exclusion of Moi. You have not made any attempt to answer my two questions: the one on two centres of power and the experts on constitutional making that Moi advocated in 2001 and which was refused by the current politicians. This is the same approach that is being used currently. If Moi was wrong then, why is it right now? how come the same politicians who promised to give us the Bomas draft in 2002 have taken 10 years to see what Moi saw in 2001? part of what was burried in the 24 years was an attempt to kill Moi with your uncle Raila playing a leading role in the 1982 aborted coup whic saw so many people killed and properties destroyed. Do not imagine at any one time that what was burried only belongs to Moi. On 4/7/10, George mboya wrote: Sagongonyi, I like your defence of Moi. However, I do not see why you do not understand Moi all these years. If I were to award a medal to him, it would be that of selfishness. Moi is the No.1 selfish Kenyan a live. I do not want to dwell on the wrongs Moi did cos in 24 years he had to have committed some. BUT do not tell us anything about Moi again regarding good governance and decision making. He is the man who singlehandedly almost brought this country to its knees and laughed over it. We still feel the aftershocks and failures of Moi era. Look at the infratsructural development in the last few years - You cant equate it to the Moi's 24yrs! and many more. We respect elders and ought to do so and Moi should also respect this country and just keep his failed wisdom to himself. Let him also accept that there are other Kenyans who can do it albeit differently. Saa ya baba na mama ilikwisha. People like you who want to remind us of Moi are trying to forcefully exhume a stinking and already buried dead to the amazement of all. However, Moi has a right like any other Kenyan to contribute to any issue at hand. I strongly think though, that his failures as President irredemably reduced his credibility and those of his ideas to an extent I doubt many people trust him. Only when it is dark enough can you see the stars!! --- On Tue, 4/6/10, sagongonyi chemurwok wrote: From: sagongonyi chemurwok Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] Daniel Arap Moi should leave Kenyans alone To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 4:43 PM Henry, when Moi said in 2002 that we cannot have two centres of power, the current crop of politicians in leadership said it is possible. Kiraitu, Kituyi, Karua, Raila, Kibaki, etc were in the forefront selling to us the idea. NARC promised to give us the Bomas draft in 100 days if they were elected to office. Moi had mentioned something to do with constitutional experts to draft the constitution, he was told by the same guys that Wanjiku can draft the constitution. On taking over leadership, Narc told us that it is really not possible to have two centres of power. Michuki confessed that they had used this gimmick to have their own in power and since Kibaki had already succeeded, there was no need for a PM. The bomas draft was mutilated in Kilifi and we were told to vote for it. Moi refused as so many of us did refuse. Why do you want to judge Moi differently now? If Kibaki and NARC were honest, why did they not bring the Bomas draft to the refurendum? why have these politicians now realized it is not good to have a prime minister and a president with executive powers, something that Moi saw in 2002? why are we using the COE now instead of Wanjiku, something that Moi had proposed in 2001 and Kenyans refused to take his advise? Moi is a Kenyan and he has a right to take a stand in the draft constitution and you do not have to agree with his stand. Why did you not tell him to shut up in 2005 when he said he was going to vote NO? He has his reasons for saying NO and you have your reasons to saying YES. That is the essence of democracy, whoever carries the day in the end, we should rally together in that direction. On 4/6/10, henry ouma wrote: According to Kenyan media reports, one Arap Moi has shamelessly averred that he will vote against the proposed?constitution-Presumably for reasons that : it's proposals on land?issues are improper and that the constitution?could allow abortion-?both of his reasons are?mis-interpretation / misreading of the relevant sections/clauses of the proposed constitution. ? As former President and?elderly statesman,?Moi could have led by urging Kenyans to support the proposed constitution and collectively seek to make well thoughout ammendments that are in best intrests of the Kenyan nation later. How does Arap Moi compare current constitution to the one proposed ? ?? According to Moi, it could be held that he prefers the current constitution -in which president and?his cronies could grab public land , president?acting alone?appoints bootlickers?to cabinet, could manipulate electoral systems and rig himself? in office?, could use the police force to unleash terror to opponents, could?use public office to corruptly acquire wealth and consign meritocracy to some dustbin, could stiffle independence of both legislature and Judiciary.As?the proposed constitution enacts, all these cannot happen-so what good does Arap Moi look for in?constitution ? ? Does Moi? or those in his school of thought hope or?nurture orgasmic?dream to rule Kenya under the current laws?? ? ? Arap moi must have enjoyed ruling?through?a?draconian constitutional dispensation that saw Kenya ruined politically and economically and seemingly, through his recent remarks has no apologies to make-Arap Moi has sons who should advice him that like former Presidents elsewhere?, he needs to tone down-He should not evoke those sad memories??that?characterised his reign and that of his predecessor supported by the current constitutional dispensation. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano ? 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AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili ? EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa ? Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 ? FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 -- TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano ? AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight Swahili ? EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa ? Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 ? FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 208 -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbatec at yahoo.com Wed Apr 7 16:34:03 2010 From: jbatec at yahoo.com (Judy Miriga) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] =?windows-1252?q?=5BYP=5FKe=5D_Raila_and_Kiraitu_plan_lau?= =?windows-1252?q?nch_of_=91Yes=92_campaign?= Message-ID: <847383.54469.qm@web57307.mail.re1.yahoo.com> ? Folks, ? Prime Minister Raila seems to be following with steps of the Reform Accord Agenda as was signed by the two principles....he seems to be getting it and making following as is required although with much difficulties ... and because the storm of change comes with "apaka" soo heavy one can easily crash.... ? The?road?to change in Kenya took a dramatic turn of events, that we were treated to a galore of free public cinema?by?our?elected?leaders chosen to perform the work of Public Service and that of legislature on the Draft Constitution.? Surprisingly, they demonstrated a characteristic discipline related to a Tai Kwon?Do and hip hop type of skills in the process of analytic Constitutional polishing at Naivasha.? The show was free for all, but for some reason, to gain the kind of wrestling energy for?the show, they had to consume heavy weight amount to do their thing in the wrestling ring at Naivasha, where special diatary food supplement was served wich cushy ventilated rooms.? The final whistle was sounded, but it looks like?the match was far from ending on a sober note. ? We have seen how making an argument with the PNU folks with their sympathizers on their heels, as well as?some of those who?got derailed from ODM in the course of dancing in the ring, with?realignment pressure of foxy-proxy and by malingerment, thought, eating honey is as sweet and easy as reaching to the honey nests incase you have no cover, got themselves entangled, used and became PNU pappets without renumerations.? At that moment, they?forgot PNU folks had stolen election in the night hour before moonlight and installed themselves into leadership before midnight spearheaded by Martha Karua with the then Chairman of the Electoral Commission Samuel Kivuitu and denied morning will ever come?with its?sunshine so bright that darkness cannot block its passage.? However, these folks from ODM are none goal shooters, they behaved as if their legs are shaped in such a fashion as one facing east and the other west whenever they hit the ball, because, the ball did not favour them, the ball kept flying to the off-side. ? Folks, the truth always stands out in whichever sense of matter, and in life, call a spade a spade, and give credit where credit is due and however difficult, the rewards for life will stand at its best and many will celebrate, that God is good. ? It is?impossible to squeeze blood out of a stone, and so the Draft Constitution had to pass the test which is the way it has, so to ease the burden of prolonged pullers and stretchers from?professors of delaying tactics, professors who defy logics of change agents, the professors who believe?things should stay and remain the way they are, have some thinking to contemplate.......People!? you must have a heart to deal with such status quo. ? It is BRAVO PEOPLE! and lets move to the next step to referundum......the small hitches can surely be ironed out through the bill in Parliament at the next face after election, believing the new broom will sweep just fine to make such small amendments and incorporate left-overs.? Amendments will be a continuous adjustments as the Country grows in stature and capacity into prosperity.... ? Cheers ! ! Judy Miriga Diaspora Spokesperson Executive Director Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc., USA http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com ? ? Watch this........ ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_84pfI5cRFg&NR=1 ?Kibaki, Raila to rescue law talks ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5QL4uusxjE&feature=channel Constitution discord ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5QL4uusxjE&feature=channel ?Raila and Kiraitu plan launch of ?Yes? campaign ? http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/r5QL4uusxjE&hl=en_US&fs=1&border=1"> From crispin.ooko at alfalaval.com Wed Apr 7 17:06:09 2010 From: crispin.ooko at alfalaval.com (Crispin Ooko) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:06:09 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Should I marry an uneducated House Wife? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: How educated were your great grand parents,was the world better then than now,did they leave longer than we do? Best Regards Crispin Ooko General Manager Tel direct: +254 20 690 9000 - Mobile: +254 72 274 4843 - Fax: +254 20 53 6911, 53 2083 crispin.ooko at alfalaval.com Alfa Laval (Pty) Ltd P.O. Box 78340 - 00-507 Viwandani Nairobi - Kenya Visit: Tetra Pak Building - Enterprise Road 00-507 Viwandani, Nairobi Registration number: 1920/000054/07 Tel switchboard: +254 [0]20 690900 - Fax switchboard: +254 [0]20 536911, 532083 www.alfalaval.com - info.sa at alfalaval.com This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and its content shall be regarded as confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise. If you have received this e-mail by mistake, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete this e-mail from your system. irene mutemba Sent by: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com 2010/04/07 04:54 PM Please respond to youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com To youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com cc Subject Re: [YP_Ke] Should I marry an uneducated House Wife? Brooklyn... Run! Run for the hills! On 4/7/10, Jectone Ndunya wrote: > Am soon making a resolve. After listening to many story about working class > Chicks from my friends relatives etc........am chickening out from the > learned Women's table and is headed for the above................. > > Before every one is invited....... should i go ahead? > > Brooklyn is in my list soo...................!!! since non of you ever sent > a CV. SHE IS NOW MINE AND THE LIKES OF NYONGESA MUST COIL THEIR TALES, BOW > THEIR HEADS AND WALK AWAY. > > > > Your advice please > > Jex > > > > > > > > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by Jim > Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By Rhonda > Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen Covey, > Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head by > Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > -- Sent from my mobile device -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Devolution: It fails completely to create a devolved government that takes care of the communities at the grassroots. The creation of 47 County Councils is not something new, they were there for 40 years and have never improved anything. The principle of devolution as differentiated from decentralization means that subnational levels have been granted, by way of a constitution, or by law powers to manage a budget that was previously managed by the national central government. As we may remember the allocation of about 2.5% of the budget to the CDF did not amount to devolution because there was no new government structure that was created and controlled by the sub-national level. What this constitution does is that it has now devolved power to the Counties where there will be county governments with a governor and a county assembly. 15% shall be devolved to this units. CDFis only 2% of the budget. This is significant and a big stride. It is still devolution except that the structure that I and many others prefered was the Bomas system of regions ( atleast 14 regions). That was defeated by two factors (atleast according to the CoE 1 million views in December 2009) a. previously agreed on Bomas regions became dislike because of the fear of domination by one part of regions over another. An example is Luo Nyanza where South Nyanza said that it is better under a county-devolved system rather than remaining under the political domination of central Nyanza. b) regionalism has what we call acquired meaning= Majimbo which has been construed to mean ethnic cleansing to ensure that Jimbos are populated with only one ethnic community etc. This is why the shift from 2 levels of devolution to one i.e only the county systems. The current system of the provincial administration is not devolution and the current counties are not a devolved system but merely central government's administrative decentralization ( although I risk accusation for bragging, the Late Dr. Mbai taught this topic excellently at the University) In Federalism, the units of the Union are federal states that have powers to tax, legislate, have constitutions of their own, etc. These federates therefore agree to form a union of states that allow the federal government to preside over matters of State such as Military, foreign affairs and matters of national policy harmonization. We now have devolution in the constitution in Principle. Kabisa; although not as we wanted it- what we wanted was regions then counties under the regions; But Britain functions under exactly these kind of devolved governance- the national government and that of counties- headed by Mayors etc. 2. Representation: Increasing constituencies from 212 to 295 is not an economically prudent way for a poor country. This country should have a total of 212 legislators of both houses of parliament. Economic prudence is a very moot argument. In fact? there is evidence to show that the new constitution shall cut the cost of running the state while the results will be higher in terms of economic expansion and development. What I want to state here and I agree with Salah is that increasing the number of MPs does not improve representation. Representation is improved when people move from the First-Past-The-Pot system and embrace proportional representation systems. In South Africa they have a Pure Proportional representation system (PR) while Germany has a Mixed Member Proportional Representation (MMPR) system. We should have gone for one these but then, we have a large FPTP with a few seats gained through MMPR. Now Salah, Let us not make a constitution thinking that Kenya is going to be a poor and impoverished nation-state as it is today. I would love as to imagine this constitution working in 15 years when there is oil in Isiolo and there is a massive shift of Kenyans there that there is a traffic Jam in Isiolo at 7 a.m. in the morning. By the way, CDF has become a major stimulus for the economy. in 2004, the first year of CDF, cement demand at EAPC rose by 400%; Mabati rolling mills registered about 260% increase in demand for iron sheets. devolution creates a massive driver for economic development and growth. so MPs should not worry Kenyans too much. Billow Kerrow, a political economist who happens to hail from the same county as Salah, has shown that the cost of running government shall be reduced by nearly 24% under the new constitution. Why because 179 local government authoirities shall be collapsed to about 90 ( 47 counties, but there can be town councils etc) all the 265 districts will also go and they will be administered by the County Governor (county government). Let us be futuristic. 3. Executive: This constitution has handed the country to a few numerous tribes completely ignoring that fact that there are 42 tribes in Kenya. I am not sure any of us would like a country in which you cannot aspire for the highest office in the land. The disease that we wanted to treat with a new constitution was the lack of accountability, lack of separation of powers; we wanted to create separation of powers between branches and strengthen checks and balances. The presidential system provides for this more than the Parliamentary system. Kenya is going to be very dramatically great when people realize that the only way they can pass budgets in parliament is if the departmental committees, senate and the national assembly is convinced that every one has been catered for. far from the allegation that small communities can not produce a president, this is the constitution that gives small ethnic communities the opportunity to rise to the top. ?Under a parliamentary system, the ethnic communities with more MPs shall always produce the Premier. I really want to allay the fears by Salah. Now a cabinet can not be stuffed with tribesmen because it can not pass in parliament- under a parliamentary system the PM must get ministers from his or her party; so if Kombos FORD Kenya was in the coaliton you start to see where the Ministers will come from- because ministers in a parliamentary system must be MPs. ?Let us be open minded and see the major developments and gains that we have secured under our system of governance. The parliamentary system is a great system of government where such nations are of mainly one nationality or one ethnicity. That is why the parliamentary system is great for European countries; Scots, Brits, Germans, Dutch, the Danes, The Swedes; The interests and fault lines are not ethnic but ideologically founded and defined. That may not be said of our great Mother Kenya where fault lines are ethnic ( do not use tribal) 4. Land: This country's land should be managed at the local level. Land Use is not common among its citizens; some are farmers, others are herders, others are hunters and gatherers, they cannot all be managed by a few farmers calling themselves National Land Commission. This contention is rush. There are several categories of land: Community, Public, private. The national Land commission shall manage on behalf of the people of Kenya- Public land and in some cases, community land where that is requested by county governments. otherwise community land shall be manage largely by county governments. On this? I have not heard people who proposing a better way forward. In fact the land policy has really moved this country forward and once we pass the constitution ad the policy is implemented through a national harmonized land Law unlike the littered pieces of laws, Kenya will have a right to call itself a modern state. Salah, what do you propose instead of the provisions of the Proposed Katiba and the National Land policy? 5. Other issues: This constitution is still unable to strengthen institutions and focuses more on individuals. The "African Big Man syndrome" is clearly visible in this constitution. I am lost on how this constitution focuses on individuals? We now have a coherent and independent judiciary; a strong and elaborate parliament, an executive that will be compelled to deliver or be ejected; we have constitutional commissions including majestic electoral commission etc, we have devolved organs with elected government and a county Assembly to match; the police service has been unyoked from the Executive dramatically, Salah are we talking about the same constitution? There is no point of passing a constitution that will not lead to a better country. We will not accept to be bribed with Kadhi's Courts, these courts have been there for 40 years and will always be there, what we want is a federal country with federal institutions not this Centralist monolith controlled by a few tribes. We should all vote NO, to this constitution, it will hand us more harm than good. My two cents. What you say at the conclusion is sudden and unbacked. There has never been a movement for federalism in Kenya but for devolution ( ugatuzi). No one ( except from a rather strong and strange proposal from coast last year under the auspices of Muhuri) has called for federalism. It is now up to the readers to decide if this constitution will cause more harm or it is going to revolutionize the political economy. Cyprian Orina Nyamwamu NCEC Partnership for Change From: Okiya Omtatah Okoiti To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com Cc: Neto Agostinho Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 11:03:01 PM Subject: Re: The KEJUDE take on Kadhi courts, Abortion debate Ndugu Cyprian, Hope u had a lovely Easter. I am surprised at your extremely and offensively patronising response that has degenerated this whole debate to be about you; it is NOT! It is Kenya, not you, not John Cardinal Njue, not Neto, not Omtatah, etc who are central to this debate. So I don't see the need for posting our embellished CVs on this forum. And it matters not whether you are more Catholic than the pope. Fact is, YOU ARE NOT THE POPE! Nevertheless, who we are is not as important as what we say, so there is no need to doubt yourself so loudly by falling over yourself to state how important you are. Please cut the crap out of your attempt at eloquent poetry and just state your points in broken prose. But before you do that, please re-read our statement and make common sense not wild statements about our message. Church leaders have issues the draft constitution. What evidence do you have that the Church leaders are driven by ill-motive? By the way, Kenya cannot be secular when it refers to God and involves God in its public affairs, including holding national days of prayer and invoking God's name in the Constitution. May be it would also help if you recognise that Bomas is not everybody's sacred text on the constitution - to me it read like an NGO proposal in many parts... People learn and change -? and a lot has happened since Bomas. Let's look at ways to make all come onboard. The referendum is about numbers and nothing else. Finally, a little humility will go a long way. My brother, let others sing your praises. Don't praise yourself - lest you do so in the presence of those who are greater than yourself, (and I am sure there are many on this listserve)..... even scripture advises us as much. Otherwise have a lovely evening. God bless. Omtatah From: orina Nyamwamu To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 12:50:26 PM Subject: The KEJUDE take on Kadhi courts, Abortion debate Kadhi courts and abortion April 6, 2010 ? I am a policy and governance strategist by training. And I have been in the school of legal and political theory for sometime. Working at NCEC for several years has offered me a massive opportunity to engage with the constitution making process as initiators, gardener and now midwife. I have read the statement issued by KEJUDE?s officials led by Neto and Omtatah (here under) with keenness. ? In constitution making there is a significant distinction between constitutional principle and political choice. In the case of the KEJUDE press statement, I see matters of political choice being presented as matters of constitutional principle. The arguments they make here about the Kadhi courts and the issues of Article 26 (4) on arbortion are not arguments that go to the base of constitution principle but float to the top of political choice. ? First of all KEJUDE asserts that Christians are being asked to chose between the constitution and the church. This is unfortunate and untrue. There is only one focus of this debate which is: Has the Proposed constitution offered the necessary constitutional principles as regards the right to life and access to justice that meets the democratic approval of the many? That is the question. Neto and Omtatah know that I am Catholic and this Easter Sunday I was at My Holy Family Basilica church when John Cardinal Njue stepped into this very subject on the constitution as regards abortion and the Kadhi courts. John Cardinal Njue is not the church and therefore his views and those of bishops may not be equated to a choice for Christians. The choice at the referendum is on the PC. ?No one is dismissing church leaders; we are debating with them because they do not have the monopoly on philosophy and of knowledge. It is they who are dismissing constitutional experts with the palm of their hand. The church leaders are engaged in propaganda for political ends and that is dangerous. Let me state here that I do not like the approach taken by Hon. Raila Odinga; that although there are some mistakes that can be rectified in future, we should still vote YES for the Proposed constitution. My position is that the Proposed Constitution (PC) should receive a YES vote because it has provided for all the constitutional principles that Kenyans demanded for in a democratic constitution. Issues of political choice must not be confused with matters of constitutional principles. ? First of all we have stated for a long seven years now since Bomas that the political choice to retain the institution of the Kadhi courts in the constitution is important since we Christians already have a legal system that recognizes our institution of marriage, divorce, inheritance and such other matters of personal law. When Omtatah chooses to divorce (and God forbid) he does not go to his priest to get the divorce proceedings there (although it is the priest who solemnized the wedding), instead he goes to court where then lawyers applying the law press their case. Muslims will find themselves deprived of a judicial institution to canvass these matters if the Kadhis courts were removed based on what Christians are arrogantly calling ?being paid for by the tax payers money?. ? The KEJUDE entry point of the state is religiously neutral is equally false. Our is secular state originates its laws info rmed by the traditions of many civilizations including Judeo-Christianity, islam, neoliberalism, Ubuntu (that is how community land has been recognized). Sourcing laws from various religious and non religious traditions does not make a state religiously neutral. It only gains legitimacy from many sources knowledge and value systems. ? For instance, We Christians have 112 days granted to us by the state for our worship. On top we Catholics are granted Good Friday, Easter Monday, Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Year Day to continue to celebrate the Birth of Christ, the Death of Christ, and the resurrection of Christ. With seven million workers and each with 8 hours of work taken off multiply by 116 at an average of Kshs. 50 an hour =6.496 b hours =Kshs. 324.8 b annually that is not produced because the labour force takes up 1/3 of the working days off. All of these days are laid to rest courtesy of the character of our state; a largely Judeo Christian state in character. Note that Muslims are never granted Friday as an holiday. They break off for lunch-hour prayers and come back to work. ? Action: the provision for the Kadhi courts is consistent with the constitutional principle on access to justice and it is a judicial matter that originates from Islamic legal system and does not offend in any way the constitution as a whole: Because no one as shown the nation how granting Muslims the recognition of Kadhi?s courts for their private civil personal matters becomes an issue that must be put on the list of things that must go after the referendum. What is the really argument in terms of constitutional principle as regards equality?? There is none. I will be telling my priests and bishops that they are plunging into divisive issues because they are politically correct with the majority of the voters in Kenya rather than any plausible grounds in principle. ? On the matter of the provisions on abortion, Omtatah and Neto brothers; I was at Bomas. This matter was never a constitutional issue until John Cardinal Njue (then Bishop) and Bishop Sulumeti brought this matter to the floor of the Conference. My official status of observer gave me a great opportunity to record what was happening in all the tents and therefore I am well grounded on this. Again constitutions generally provided for the right to life in principle what happens to those who take away the lives of others. When the issue of defining when life begins and ends was introduced we knew we were headed for a long night on the operation table. It is this inclusion that became problematic and therefore compelled drafters to search for how to deal with real life situation where abortions have to be procured. Hence the inclusion of the provisions that abortion may be procured where the life of the mother is endangered, if the conception is through rape etc. ? I write this with sadness because what the CoE has provided is the proper way to provide for difficult subjects that have found themselves politically pushed to the constitution. A constitution can not just provide that ?abortion is illegal?. Full stop. No! ? The constitutional principle is the one on the right to life. Let no one go beyond this line because then you introduce non principles but matters of political choice which are of policy in nature and vary from time to time and will need legislation. The discussion on the right to life is broad. It introduces issues of death penalty, Euthanasia, abortion, death through neglect by the state etc and it actually goes to the very discussion of the reason for establishing the state. so it is always safe to provide for the principle and the institutions which may progressively and daily process these matters that touch on the right to life- Including parliament, the judiciary, commissions, the administration etc. Action: either maintains the provisions as are in the Proposed Constitution or delete all the provisions that touch on abortion and when life begins and ends. Once you introduce details of when life begins and ends, and try to legislate on abortion in the constitution then one has to live with the provisions of detail that are now in the Proposed constitution. So then we are back to the conclusion, the Proposed constitution covers every one and there are no mistakes in the provisions. The provisions are rational. ? I am now coming to the realization that before MY Bishops meet this month to discuss the way forward on the referendum on the constitution, I need to? write to the Secretary of the KEC to request him to advise the Bishops accordingly so that they do not in fact engage in ill- info rmed debates. Cyprian NyamwamuHere now is The KEJUDE STATEMENT PRESS STATEMENT ? Church leaders should emulate God who does not destroy the righteous along with the wicked ? We acknowledge that today?s Kenya, and the one anticipated in the Proposed Constitution of Kenya, is not a secular State but a religiously neutral one. The Kenyan State is supposed to treat all religions as equals; never to favour or be hostile to any religious beliefs. ? Therefore, we call upon all those condemning church leaders for raising fundamental questions about the Proposed Constitution of Kenya to immediately stop crossing the legitimate lines of criticism. Rambling onto the slippery surface of irrational exuberance is largely indistinguishable from open hostility to the Church. Their prejudiced, speculative, one-dimensional and narrow analysis of the Church?s position is purposefully based on wilful distortions of the issues at hand. ? Church leaders represent an important constituency and the issues they are raising are fundamental. To ask Christians to make a choice between the Church and the draft constitution is to ask them to make a false choice. There is no choice between the draft constitution and the church since the constitution of the Republic belongs equally to all Kenyans, irrespective of their race, creed, ethnicity, class, station or status. ? From the days of the apostles, church leaders have the unique authority passing on the faith and applying the teaching of Christ to the circumstances of the day. They have a responsibility to foster among the faithful those actions that promote holiness and are in accord with the Gospel, as well as a duty to condemn those actions which are incompatible with their teaching. ? And because it belongs to the Church always and everywhere to announce moral principles, even about the social order, and to render judgment concerning any human affairs insofar as the fundamental rights of the person or the salvation of souls requires it, church leaders have both a right and a duty to guide their flock. ? We also condemn all those politicians and commentators who have tried to rubbish the position of the Church, as untenable, arguing that if they reject the proposed constitution we will still go back to the current one which has Kadhis courts in them. ? The Kadhi?s Courts are in the current constitution as a historical mistake, waiting to be corrected. They are not a good. But if they go into the new constitution their status changes fundamentally because they will be there by the universal supreme mandate of the sovereign Kenyan people. Hence, their substance will change from illegitimate to legitimate even though their form as courts subordinate to the High Court will remain. That is why the Church would rather they remain as a mistake than that they be elevated to the sovereign wish of the Kenya people. ? We should recognize that the Committee of Experts introduced, or failed to ferret out, many policy issues that belong to the legislative not to the constitutive process. The Constitution is supposed to be about broad principles. It was wrong to use the Constitution to legislate on abortion, on the Kadhis courts, on military rights, and on similar policy issues. All policy issues belong to Parliamentary legislation. Putting them in the Constitution has put us in a situation where a largely very good document is threatened with justified rejection. ? ? But is rejection the way to resolve this dilemma where a document that is overwhelmingly good is contaminated by evil? We call upon church leaders to reconsider their decision to reject the document because of the few mistakes it contains. Scripture has a very clear way forward. God is always patient and caring in the face of evil. Perfect is never the enemy of good. God does not destroy the good along with evil. He engages strategically. God never destroys the good even as he fights evil. God is a smart fighter; he never causes collateral damage. Otherwise, He would have destroyed the world because of the sin of humankind that stinks to high heaven. But because of the little good that there is, His Divine Mercy spares us all, giving us a chance to repent and make good our iniquities. ? In Genesis 18:16-33 Abraham pleads with God not to destroy the city of Sodom for the sake of the few good people there. Abraham asks God: ?Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?? And God agrees to spare the whole city for the sake initially of 50 righteous then 45, 40, 30, 20, and, finally the Lord said: ?I will not destroy it for the sake of ten.? Eventually God saves righteous Lot and his family before He destroys Sodom . ? The main theme of the Gospel according to St. Matthew is division and judgment. Evil people are separated and destroyed as the holy are saved. In the parable of Wheat and weeds (Matthew 13:24?30) Jesus teaches through a parable, about a man who sowed good seed in his field, but while people slept, his enemy came and sowed weeds also among the wheat, and went away. But when the blade sprang up and brought forth fruit, then the weed appeared also. The servants wanted to go and pull them up but the master refused, saying: 'because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.' " ? Instead of rejecting the Proposed Constitution of Kenya, church leaders should reject verbal assurances and demand that President Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga lead MPs into signing a post-referendum memorandum of understanding that immediately the new constitution is ratified they will embark on amendments to remove all offending clauses. For this will be a sure way of giving Kenyans a new constitution but not the simple way of dismissing the church concerns as dismal and parochial. ? Signed: Neto Agostinho - 0722-467-365??????????? ?????????????????? ????????? Date: Monday, April 5, 2010 National Convener, Kenyans for Justice and Development --- On Tue, 4/6/10, Robert Alai wrote: From: Robert Alai Subject: Re: KADHI COURTS AND ISLAM ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS To: "MlalaHoi" Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 9:27 AM Maina If you dont care what our views are then craft your own society. You will be doing no work fighting against Kadhi Courts because they will still be in the constitution whether you vote Yes or No Alai On Apr 6, 9:14?am, Maina Muthee wrote: > Let me tell you people, I don't care what your views are or explanation > about Kadhis courts. I have been mobilizing Christians to vote for NO NO NO. > > Christians you need to think twice while voting. Muslims know what they want > from inclusion in the constitution. Why are are leaders blind. Cant they > see? > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Rose Kagwiria wrote: > > > > > > > Robert > > > I agree with you Robert. These guys have no thanks. they concentrate more > > on negatives than positives. This does not refer to Muslim only but also > > those who call themselves clerics. Instead of thanking the supporters, they > > continue arguing with no bases. Is this what Mohamed and Jesus wanted his > > people to behave. Theses guys are very selfish > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Robert Alai > > *To:* MlalaHoi > > *Sent:* Mon, April 5, 2010 4:34:22 PM > > *Subject:* Re: KADHI COURTS AND ISLAM ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS > > > Mohammed > > > I am with you in Kadhi Courts being in the constitution but you know > > why many Christian gets to hate the Kadhi Courts? It is when people > > like you think that every criticism is "hate". When you want do > > declare a Fatwa or Jihad on anyone just because he holds different > > opinion, then even people who support you like me says "No this is > > sick". > > > Cant you learn to convince without Jihads and Fatwas? > > > Alai > > > On Apr 5, 2:24 pm, MOHAMEDWELI ABDI wrote: > > > First to correct you the Khadi court os direct laws from the Quran not > > from > > > the Sultan. If you are not Muslim then why will you worry you will be in > > > slaved by the Khadi court. He will not be able to summon you. > > > Thirdly where have you seen Khadi courts abuse of children and women? > > Infact > > > it is the other way round.It protects their rights. Your Western ideology > > > about Islam is what is confusing you. > > > Please refrain this kind of hate. Kenyans will never be divided by > > religion. > > > > United we stand, Divided we fall. Kenya never listen to bigots like this > > man > > > and Harry. > > > > Mohamed > > > > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Paul Nyandoto > >wrote: > > > > > Dear Kenyans, > > > > > I have got or received some very low life explanation about Kadhi > > courts. > > > > It is even unfortunate that some of those explanation do come even from > > real > > > > Islamic believers who end up calling us ignorant of the kadhi courts. > > > > > Kadhi courts exist in Kenya because sultan of zanzibar introduced them > > to > > > > the 10 km strip land along the coastal area of kenya as away of > > > > administration, just like the British also did divide and rule > > tactics.. > > > > Those land were under Sultan of zanzibar who was by then ruling and his > > > > governmental system wanted to hold those lands for ever. The sultan > > never > > > > paid or never bought those lands from the poor africans who were living > > in > > > > those areas, he just took them and the ones who resisted were sold to > > > > america as slaves. ? Kadhi courts and Islam as a religion are two > > completely > > > > different things. Kadhi courts do serve man and the sultan, ?NOT GOD. > > ISLAM > > > > as a religion serves God just as any other religion we see in kenya > > except > > > > atheism. > > > > > I just do not see why I should be called anti islam or against muslims > > if I > > > > do not want Kadhi courts in our constitution. To me kadhi courts are a > > > > direct extension of kenyan occupation by the sultan of zanzibar. Those > > > > courts hide a lot of child abuses in families, hide a lot of slavery on > > > > women, men end up exploiting women under those courts. Inheritance of > > wealth > > > > by females become almost imposible on those courts, go to Nigeria or > > sudan > > > > and see what I am talking about. The kadhi courts allow direct > > polygamist > > > > and women slavery which any normal brain thinking creature should not > > > > accept. Kenya as a state do have already courts so why ?the duplicate. > > What > > > > do those courts give which kenyan government courts are not giving. We > > want > > > > all Kenyans to be equal under tha country`s law. > > > > > So please fellow muslim brothers ?and some who support you blindly when > > > > informing us about Kadhi courts do not fool us around as you have been > > > > doing. Those courts serve man and the Sultan ( King), while islam > > serves GOD > > > > the almighty. 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For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From josekamanthe at gmail.com Wed Apr 7 21:58:09 2010 From: josekamanthe at gmail.com (josephine Ndambuki) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 04:58:09 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] LYP-Mombasa Club meeting Talk: Fleet acquisition especially used cars, Factors to consider and loop holes to avoid, Message-ID: hallo good people... kindly find a highlight of the talk about as presented by our chairman Reuben shuma in the LYP-Mombasa meeting held on 17th March 2010. Attached are the minutes of the day. .*Talk: Fleet acquisition especially used cars, Factors to consider and loop holes to avoid,* ** v *There are many reasons that one may opt for a used car. * 1. They are cheaper than the new ones from the show room. 2. The insurance it lower compared to the new cars 3. Its possible to find a decent vehicle that is second hand, therefore giving a good return on investment v *Among the factors to consider when purchasing a car are:-* 1. Monthly budget. A vehicle with high fuel consumption will need a higher budget 2. Type of ca needed. Personal verses commercial, heavy duty, roads frequently used, is it going to be a family car? Etc. Such factors will guide you in choosing the right dimensions for your car, space wise, robustness etc. 3. Area of living: some areas may need 4WD eg. Rocky and mountainous areas. v *How do you spot the good deal?* 1. Its important for one to do *extensive researc*h on the kind that one needs to buy, compare prizes from various vendors to get the general price range 2. Some vendors include: 1. *Japan Singapore, Dubai and Singapore, online forums (e.g Japan Partner etc)* 3. *Consulting people who have bought* or seem to have a better understanding of vehicles would save you a raw deal. 4. *Check out Deals on newspapers, adverts etc:* remember you are a potential buyer!!!! v *Going about getting it* * You may opt to buy cash or in installments as most vendors support this link of payment. However, it is* advisable to buy commercial vehicles on credit terms. All in all Remember to do the following before writing the cheque: ? *TEST Drive the CAR, if possible with an experienced driver.* ? *Bargain!!! Bargain!!! You will be amazed at what savings you can get.* ? *Choose the insurance agent wisely. Come take too long to reimburses in case of an accident.* ? *Know your broker, people re conned either in costing or sale !!! * * * v *Golden Rule* *Always do a search on the KRA logs list for the vehicle you intend to purchase. This will give you detailed information on the authenticity of the car you intend to purchase or otherwise.* --- Best Regards Josephine Kamanthe Tel: +254 723 736 086 -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? 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Name: LYP Coast meeting Minutes 17-3-2010.doc Type: application/msword Size: 41472 bytes Desc: not available URL: From monicahbii at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 00:38:08 2010 From: monicahbii at gmail.com (Monicah Bii) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] LOANS FOR CIVIL SERVANTS AND PARASTATAL EMPLOYEES Message-ID: Are you a Civil Servant in Kenya or work with a parastatal in Kenya (including members of the Police force/Miliary)? Get in touch for loan facilities from the COOPERATIVE BANK OF KENYA. Inbox me for further information. Kind regards, Monicah -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. From gmjiwa at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 02:56:20 2010 From: gmjiwa at gmail.com (Mohamed Jiwa) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:56:20 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: SAY "NO" TO THE NEW DRAFT CONSTITUTION IN KENYA! In-Reply-To: <392776.88801.qm@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <392776.88801.qm@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: POWER TO YOU BUT vote *yes* David and then use it to fight for the issues you are raising. It will give the people a *little more power* and that is what we need to push people like you forward to do the hard work which you seem to have the energy and willingness to help do. You have some very good points but Kenyans have to kick when the ball is put on the dot even while facing uphill with total disbelief at the kind of game we have to play. Firstly let us agree - this draft will soon be a dodo because it is likely to give real intellectuals and thinkers a fighting chance to think about and explain to Kenyans what 'a constitution for Kenya' should *really *look like. So let us look at this document more as an instrument than a 'constitution'. Look at it as a tool, a weapon to help us get a real constitution in our hands, one day (because that day is FAR). There is ever much more good in this draft than is worth risking to a further lack of inertia which the rulers are wearing around their ankles like a ball and shackle made of gold. What you are asking for (logic and common sense, and to be rid of this kind of imperialism) may still take upto another 10 years of struggle, in my opinion, because we are not just ruled by *these *thugs but also by a class of shameless cultural imperialists from the *outside *who have firm handle on the chameleon-skinned testicles and boobs of their agents here. This constitution is one notch closer to enabling us to put compassionate, educated people in positions of power over the next decade, THOUGH NOT WITHOUT THE HELP OF AMENDMENTS and FURTHER REWRITES, if necessary (why not - if the playing field remains so slanted, still?) for which the people will have to continue to agitate. This is a chance to give ourselves the opportunity to think more freely, write more freely and BREAK *ALL *THE RULES that we have been taught were good for us (but which are bad for us). I feel that in this fluid fast-changing world where we must break ALL THE RULES in order to return to ourselves who we are, we have to use what tools we have to GIVE THE PEOPLE THE POWER TO CHANGE THE RULES both internally and in terms of our self-respect *vis-a-vis* the rest of the planet, AS A LEADER IN THE HOW THE WORLD MUST THINK FORWARD. Let it go, David as the last one will hang in there like an old carcass for too long and the smell is really bad. All these ethnic things will eventually be all right if we are really what we say we are, ie KENYANS. Mohamed Jiwa On 8 April 2010 08:46, David ochwangi wrote: > Once again we are called upon to enact an historic document that if > approved would reshape our nation for the better, we are told-does it? But > once again, I am asking Kenyans of all walks of life to exercise caution and > thread very carefully; this draft (attached) is half baked in my opinion and > must either be revised thoroughly or simply be rejected. The just concluded > parliamentary ?review?-if you dare call it a review, of the re-revised draft > is perhaps the clearest manifestation of abdication of duty by the so called > ?the people?s representatives? in decades. As much as we applaud the efforts > made thus far, even as noted by Kenya?s most priced friend, US President > Barrack Obama, we still must not allow a flawed document to pass the proper > test of scrutiny or defer clearly observable problems in the draft to the > future. *This is the time to GET IT RIGHT timelines and deadlines > notwithstanding*. The need and benefits of getting this document right far > outweighs and supersedes any arbitrary deadlines set up just for the sake of > timelines. Not one, (1) amendment, ONE, was debated let alone passed to > improve the document. I, like many Kenyans have patiently held back my > consternation about the draft because we saw some improvements in Naivasha > by the PSC vs. the original CoE draft; I expected this ?honorable? > parliament to, at the very least, tweak the remaining issues and try to > better this draft but once again, true to form, our traditionally do nothing > and collect Millions in remuneration parliament failed us miserably, I mean > it was to be expected but this degree of ineptitude by our representatives > is just absurd. Let?s not forget that it is this parliament, to every man > and woman, which gave us this perpetual confusion of the Grand Coalition, so > there are no surprises here. In fact, the best barometer on how to proceed > with respect to this draft is to observe where our rudderless ?leaders? > stand on this draft and then RUN as far away in the opposite direction as > you can! > > At the very minimum, any constitutional changes to the existing document > must by necessity meet ALL of the following tests: > > a) Improve the welfare of every Kenyan, in other words, I as a voter must > be satisfied that the changes will improve my standing in our country and by > extension, all Kenyans, > > b) Is NEUTRAL and an EQUALIZER with respect to economic, political, > social and religious provisions, i.e. no special interests are specifically > provided for in the new document in the guise of correcting past > ?injustices? or perpetuating a set of precedents, for instance, this just > approved draft specifically provides special status and preference of the > Islam religion and completely ignores all others, even concerns of the > NON-MUSLIMS are completely ignored, it in effect makes Kenya an Islamic > state, and therefore it fails this test, > > c) That any and all growth in government mandated in the new document must > be fully paid for and is cost neutral (does not raise new taxes to fund > the mandated growth) during the entire existence of the growth, in other > words, it MUST NOT be funded through tax or debt increase or be a source of > undue burden to the Kenyan taxpayer , none of the exponential growth in > this new document is paid for and once again it fails this test and > > d) It must be realistic, promote individual responsibility by discouraging > dependency and provide true mechanisms of enforcement otherwise it is not > worth the effort nor the paper it is written on; for example the new > document calls for a ?Welfare? state from cradle to grave where the less > fortunate and their dependents become the ?charge? of the state; this is > just too vague but clearly opens the Pandora?s box that the ?Nanny? state > has no capacity nor the ability to support, neither the ?experts? nor the > PSC have a CLUE what it is they are advocating; the system would crumble on > its own weight and be saddled in eternal strife courtesy the so called ?BILL > of RIGHTS?. > > This new draft law COMPOUNDS our problems, not improve the country. The > following, in my humble opinion must be either removed or revised for this > thing to have any true meaning at the referendum otherwise it is a nullity. > > *RELIGION: * > > Whatever happened to the doctrine of SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE? Islam > is effectively it is expressly recognized and its legal functions funded by > the taxpayers and we are being asked to endorse this, NO! I think it is * > wrong* and for this reason alone, ALL non-Muslims should vote AGAINST this > draft, it is unfair and simply untenable. The ?experts?, the PSC and > Parliament as whole pejoratively made a complete mockery of this provision > by trying to fool Kenyans in declaring that ?there shall be no state > religion? but contemporaneously proceeded to effectively make Islam the de > facto state sponsored religion in Kenya: The ?*Kadhi courts?* whose legal > framework, ?Sharia? is based on the Holy Koran, is mentioned no less than > *17 times* in the draft, the term ?*Muslim?* not less than *8 times;* there > is no mention of any other religion! Why on earth would NON Muslims vote to > approve a document so flagrantly discriminatory? What recourse do we have > once we vote to subsidize Islam in Kenya? I know it is already in existence, > trust me, I get it! So what difference would it make one way or the other > voting for or against the new draft, right? I mean it doesn?t change the > status quo and therefore, I am asking all NON-MUSLIMS *NOT *to endorse > this historical injustice and inequity - we don?t want any part of it; let?s > just keep what we have until we have a true chance to fix it once and for > all. Some have argued that this has been in existence since independence, > to them I say, so has the rest of the document and if the purpose of this > exercise is to correct ?Historical injustices?, well then my fellow Kenyans, > this is one of those historical injustices we simply can?t ignore and to the > extent the sanctimonious ?experts? and Parliament have completely ignored > our pleas, then we the people have no choice but to reject this fatally > flawed document. This draft will fail not because of we the people but > because our so called leaders failed, once again, to heed the people?s > pleas, simple as that. But if on the other hand they choose to listen to the > majority of Kenyans, there is a very simple remedy to this entire > hullabaloo: The ?CoE? and parliament which has labored to copy other > constitutions could learn from the US for example and address religion in > the constitution as follows: > > *Parliament shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or > prohibiting the free exercise thereof; (The US Constitution).*** > > Very simple, non controversial and fair approach that levels the playing > field for every Kenyan, no sane human being, regardless of religion would > find this discriminatory at all; this is not a denial of any religious > rights but rather a fair basis of reinforcing and protecting ALL religious > rights without favoritism. > > *BILL OF RIGHTS:* > > This draft practically transfers all individual responsibility to the state > and creates a culture of dependency; it promotes ?Communism? which the > country can ill afford, the same system that stagnated development in > Tanzania for decades and led to the implosion of the Soviet Union. Its > pronouncements will saddle taxpayers and the state in endless debt, unduly > high tax burden, stifle investment, competition and court /tribunal fights > over the so called ?FUNDAMENTAL/INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS?. Unless Kenya as a > country has a surplus of funds, tones of surplus funds at that, to fund the > new constitutional mandates, which have never been before promulgated in any > constitution that I am aware of, we should be geared for generations of the > welfare state. I don?t know where these ?experts? sourced their expertise or > materials from on the subject matter but there is such a thing as > COST/BENEFIT ANALYSIS, you don?t initiate a new program, much less > constitutionally mandate one unless you can fund it, I mean it is the most > natural and the logical thing to do, right? I mean even in the United > States, arguably the world?s richest country does not have such ?BILL OF > RIGHTS? in its constitution, what is Kenya smoking? What analysis did > ODM,PNU or the ?CoE? conduct to arrive at the conclusion that individual > responsibility in a country with over 50% unemployment and whose budget is > always in the RED (Deficit) suddenly can mandate and pay for these new BILL > of RIGHTS? How? Show me the money. It can only be done through increase in > taxes, or globetrotting begging for funds, either way this is not good. The > following need to be stricken off the draft: > > *Economic and social rights* > > 43. (1) Every person has the right? > > *1. **to the highest attainable standard of health, which includes > the right to health care services, including reproductive health care;* > > *2. **to accessible and adequate housing, and to reasonable standards > of sanitation;* > > *3. **to be free from hunger, and to have adequate food of acceptable > quality;* > > *4. **to clean and safe water in adequate quantities;* > > *5. **to social security; and* > > *6. **to education.* > > (2) A person shall not be denied emergency medical treatment. > > (3) *The State shall provide appropriate social security to > persons who are unable to support themselves and their dependants.* > > All these *?Economic and social rights?* above must be funded somehow, how > do the experts propose to pay for them? How do we enforce these > provisions? These unfunded mandates cannot be constitutional unless we have > looked that far in the future and determined that we can honestly fulfill > them; there is no analysis that I am aware of that guarantees that. This is > nothing more than a poorly crafted set-up which will set the country on a > permanent collision course with itself; nobody can guarantee Kenyans the > highest attainable Health Standards without first telling us how to pay for > it, it is a noble idea but a dream, not even in the US is Healthcare > constitutionally guaranteed. Similarly, Social Security must be paid for, > how? In the world?s richest country, not everyone ?unable? to support > themselves is eligible for Social Security benefits much less their > dependents, you must earn your way into Social Security benefits; further, > Social Security is not a constitutional mandate/guarantee. My point fellow > Kenyans is that we are being fed a *bill of goods*. > > > > * * > > *REPRESENTATION:* > > I don?t know what the experts were smoking when they crafted this chapter > especially with respect with gender by mandating the following, *?not more > than two-thirds of the members of elective public bodies shall be of the > same gender?! B*ased on what? I can?t reconcile the principle of democracy > (free choice) with this cockamamie of requiring representation based on > gender, how do you even start enforcing this provision; the state police > going to the each constituency and demanding that voters elect a woman or > man in the name of ?democracy?? I mean how else are you going to enforce > this thing? Any representation based affirmative action in favor of gender, > age, disability or any other specially curved class of citizens is > undemocratic and does NOT belong in any constitution. > > *LEGISLATURE/PARLIAMENT:* > > Do away with the senate; it is just a complete waste of resources to add > another layer of rot on top of an way under-performing parliament. > Parliament already has excess capacity, too much time on its hands, it is > the most selfish and gluttonous body of self righteous humans on the face of > the earth that I know. Why do we need to layer of rot? In fact, let?s trim > parliament and make it more lean and efficient, require them to be on the > clock and punch in every time they show up for ?work?, let?s demand that > they earn an honest day?s living, then and only then would be an additional > arm within the legislature be an issue, not now- particularly if the primary > purpose of the senate is to ?check? the presidency, REALLY? UH! > > *COUNTY GOVERNMENTS/DEVOLUTION:* > > I am totally opposed to this new layer of government, no value or purpose > whatsoever to the common taxpayer but a sinkhole for yet another layer of > unfunded government expansion. This is indeed an unnecessary burden on the > taxpayer, Kenya is not the size of Russia nor is her population that of > China, we are relatively a small country and there is no need of Balkanizing > the country with redundant and overlapping layers of government. For > starters we already have the Provincial Administration, we also have the > County governments overseen by the Ministry of Local Government, where have > these two units failed that we need additional government? Paid by who? This > is nothing more than a form of MAJIMBO which we must reject, has nothing > whatsoever to do with bringing government to the people, NO! Don?t fall for > it. > > *PRESIDENTIAL AUTHORITY AND ELECTION:* > > Let?s give the president *LINE ITEM VETO* authority to help efficiently > and effectively pass good bills into law without the usual back and forth > between the legislature and the executive. The current draft is too > convoluted particularly with respect to when the president rejects > parliament?s bill a second time, does the bill die or automatically become > law? > > A simple majority should be all that is required to elect a president, > 50% +1 of the votes cast; remove the 25% votes from more than one half of > the ?Counties?; Democracy is about MAJORITY RULE MINORITY RIGHTS regardless > of where the majority resides, this is a backward provision. > > Also the requirement that a petition challenging a presidential election be > filed with the Supreme Court and determined within fourteen days is not only > wrong, capricious and reckless but also extremely ill conceived and a > mockery of justice and rule of law. Evidence takes a while especially in > matters of national importance, I mean a petitioner or petitioners can be > from all over the country, are these ?experts? some of them experienced > attorneys telling us that lawsuits are filed and determined within 14 days? > I mean is that even realistic? We want justice but not rushed phony justice > driven by arbitrary deadlines, come on guys! > > *ATTORNEY GENERAL AND DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC PROSECUTIONS:* > > The draft gives complete protection and immunity of any and all sanctions > against the Attorney General and heavily seeks to regulate his subordinate, > the Director of Public Prosecutions! WHY? So in all likelihood we can end up > with the DO NOTHINGS like the incompetent AMOS WACKO WAKO who is the epitome > of impunity in Kenya as the head of law enforcement for decades; we need > recourse, not of the Director of Public Prosecutions but rather the AG > herself/himself, hellooooooooo! > > *JUDICIARY:* > > Too many layers of the court system; Supreme Court , court of Appeal, High > Court, the Magistrates courts, Courts Martial, the Kadhis? courts; EH! > > *RATIFICATION:* > > Approval of any constitution must be a super majority and not a simple > majority, we don?t need to divide the country in the middle, NO! > > Finally my friends, I have attached the revised copy of the Draft > constitution with comments and I hope you will review it and comment as > well; my point is that we shouldn?t pass or agree to pass something just for > its historical significance alone even when it is palpably obvious that it > is wrong. This draft is half baked and needs plenty of work, the politicians > have acknowledged as much, we are tired of half baked goodies that end up > consuming the public and its resources after passage, look around you, look > at the confused Grand Coalition and what we are paying for it. Tell these > folks that until and unless they fix this thing, the answer is very simple; > your vote on this draft in its current form is *NO!* > > -- G Mohamed Jiwa -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emilliokarega at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 02:59:42 2010 From: emilliokarega at gmail.com (Emillio Karega) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:59:42 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] GEMA are BIG Gainers in the NEW Constitution Message-ID: Looking the Draft Constitution from a tribal perspective, i must say that the Draft Constitution is the BEST Gema people will ever have. Consider the following; 1. It has managed to create a HOME for Gema in the Diaspora through Nakuru/Laikipia Counties. This is something which even Kenyatta could not achieve. In addition, Kalenjins have been scattered through establishment of Bomet/Kericho/Baringo etc counties. The sense of Community will diminish with time and the issue of Rift Valley ni kwetu will be dead. 2. A Gema Presidential Candidate will start at an advantage. This is because a Presidential Candidate must lead in at least half of the Counties. Now count the number of Counties that can be considered Gema; and there you have it! Such a Candidate will just have to form an alliance with one or two groups and he is home and safe. 3. The Draft Constitution elevate re-drawing of constituency boundaries based on POPULATION above anything else. Those who argued for geography, development, marginalization or area size have clearly lost out. 4. The Draft Constitution is a PURE PRESIDENTIAL SYSTEM. That has been Gema/PNU clarion for awhile. It is ODM and affiliates who wanted a Parliamentary system and the post of PM. Now the PM post is gone for good and Parliament will be weakened by the fact that MPs can be independents and also a President does not have to belong to any political party! One wonders what the role of Political Parties will be. It also bring into question what the Activists/ODMorons/NGOs were fighting for; afterall, they have always advocated for a somewhat Parliamentary System and a post of PM. How on earth do you end up with a much more 'imperial Presidency' under the Draft Constitution while trying to run away from the current 'imperial Presideny?" 5. Majimbo/Regional Governments are completely out. Probably this was the most vehemently opposed issues by Gemas because Majimbo/Regions have always carried the connotations of evicting the so called 'foreigners'. Now this threat seem to have contained through Counties. Also these Counties are weak and subject to National Government. Actually, if we get a national Government that does not want Counties, they can be frustrated through lack of funding and other traps. Just read the Draft Constitution carefully. 6. The power of Revenue Allocation has been tamed. The Treasury (read Finance Minister) now can act as he has always do, of course subject to Parliament approval. Thus, Gema people, tame Christian Fundamentalists and the NEW Constitution is yours! In short, while 'others' may take one or two issues as positives in the Draft Constitution, Gema/PNU groupings seem to have ALL positives. This makes me wonder, WHY DO WE NEED A NEW CONSTITUTION JUST TO READ LIKE THE CURRENT ONE? Somebody wake me up! -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? 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Message-ID: When the PSC met in Naivasha, ODM asked her representatives to the PSC to go with a certain list of 'irreducible minimums', thus: 1. A Three-Tier Devolution System, 2. A Parliamentary Executive, 3. No interference with the Transitional Clauses And when they were headed for KIA; "After extensive discussions, the PM instructed his team not to allow any mutilation of the proposed constitution. He reminded them that ODM supports the proposed constitution as is. He emphasized the position remains ODM's irreducible minimum," "He specifically instructed his team not to permit the transitional clauses to be interfered with; not to agree to any regions beyond 18; not to allow the Senate to be weakened; and not to allow the 47 counties to be deleted or diluted," "He specifically instructed his team not to permit the transitional clauses to be interfered with; not to agree to any regions beyond 18; not to allow the Senate to be weakened; and not to allow the 47 counties to be deleted or diluted," Raila is said to have insisted on a three-tier devolved governance structure with the national, regional and county levels, each with clearly defined functions; together with a strengthened Senate and devolved funds being increased from 15 percent to at least 35 percent. "Raila made it clear that any ODM MP agreeing to anything other than this would be betraying the party," Ruto is a prominent member of the PSC team that worked on the Draft Constitution that was largely left intact by the Committee of Experts. Look at the clauses on Devolution: ** *PSC Draft to CoE **Devolution 6. (1) The sovereign power of the people is exercised at? (a) the national level; and (b) the county level. (2) The governments at the two levels are distinct and inter-dependent and shall conduct their mutual relations on the basis of consultation and cooperation. (3) Despite clause (2), the national government takes precedence over county governments. * *Proposed Constitution:* *Devolution and access to services 6. (1) The territory of Kenya is divided into the counties mentioned in the First Schedule. (2) The governments at the national and county levels are distinct and interdependent and shall conduct their mutual relations on the basis of consultation and cooperation. (3) A national State organ shall ensure reasonable access to its services in all parts of the Republic, so far as it is appropriate to do so having regard to the nature of the service. *Clearly, nothing has changed. A look at the clauses on land shows not much has changed either. In fact, the provisions on land were virtually pulled out of the National Land Policy approved by Cabinet (Where Ruto sits) and passed by Parliament (Where all the so-called Rift Valley MPs were present). My question is, what has changed now that you dint know of when you were busy conoodling with confessed anti-devolutionists like Uhuru Kenyatta at both the Naivasha and KIA retreats? Have you suddenly realized you have been short-changed? And for the Record, at both meetings that ODM came up with these positions, Ruto was absent - on purpose!!!... He had some differences with his Party Leader that he thought were more important than the wishes of 'his people'. And what are you going to tell ?your people?? that you were asleep as this Draft came this far? That you had no way of pushing through the party position? Wasn?t it you and your sympathizers in the PSC that made the Party position untenable by ?conoodling? with anti-reformers? Style up and tell us the truth ? that You PREFER THE STATUS QUO!!!! -- *Regards, Dr MAKODINGO Washington, BPharm,MPSK Registered Pharmacist, P O Box 60113 - 00200 Nairobi "I'm not arrogant, just Smarter" * -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? 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From agostinhoon at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 04:28:31 2010 From: agostinhoon at gmail.com (neto agostinho) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 01:28:31 -0700 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: SAY "NO" TO THE NEW DRAFT CONSTITUTION IN KENYA! In-Reply-To: References: <392776.88801.qm@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ochwangi, raises many issues why he will vote 'NO' for the proposed constitution. Am pressed for time and hope someone helps with the other parts that concern him. I would like to respond to his concerns on the provisions of Economic Social cultural Rights. *First, *please understand that necessitous and hungry men are what dictatorships are made of. When one realizes economic social cultural rights (Health, Education, Development, Culture, Economic empowerment etc) you are then able to take care of your Civil and political Rights and other fundamental freedoms like freedom of expression, freedom of association and the like. The reason we have the sort of politicians and leaders we have today is because majority of kenyans are poor and needy. The politician comes to you at the last minute with empty promises of bridges to be built, roads, health centres and gives you hand outs, and then he is voted..the next voting season it is cyclic and nothing has happened....This is because we have never had Economic Social Cultural Rights as justiciable rights in our constitution, so that all these rights have been more of "favours" by the politician. Now that we are going to have them as actionable rights we are able to take our leaders to court and have them give effect to these rights...please make time and read the Constitutional court of South Africa decisions of *Soobremaney* and *Grootboom,* for comparison and better understanding. *Second,* Economic Social Cultural rights are to be realized Progressively, now this means that the government has to put policy in place, regard being paid to the available resources..but lack of available resources does not mean that government can abdicate its role of providing for these rights..you are able to question government why there is no dispensary in north horr, while the government bought fuel guzzlers for ministers or while money was lost through one corruption or another. So that, lack of availability of resources does not mean that the few resources that are available are not used prudently. The government has no business letting citizens die of hunger like we did, whilst Bura could have been revived 20 years ago to cushion us against hunger, if you see the bumper harvests that we have realized from there and other schemes.This has not been possible because we did not have these rights in legislation and second because the Judiciary was not very independent.With the proposed constitution where the Judiciary is going to be independent it is going to be possible for the judicairy to question the executive why it is not helping its citizenry realize their constitutional rights...that is the role of an independent judiciary ( checking another branch of government) to ensure that the executive helps the citizens realize their aspirations, . *Third,* Economic social Cultural rights need not be realized immediately, the executive need show what it is doing in the short term, mid term and in the long term, so that as part of the policy of the government, it might say we are not able to deliver on the right to health for now but in the next years budget, we have these sort of plans. Basically,the government need show that Economic Social Cultural Rights are a policy issue which is being given effect as opposed to hollow campaign promises that are not given effect and in my opinion if there was any useful part of the proposed constitution it is the provision on Economic Social Cultural Rights...please raise more issues and i will be happy to elucidate. My two cents,Agostinho. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Mohamed Jiwa wrote: > POWER TO YOU > > BUT vote > *yes* > David > > and then use it to fight for the issues you are raising. It will give the > people a *little more power* and that is what we need to push people like > you forward to do the hard work which you seem to have the energy and > willingness to help do. You have some very good points but Kenyans have to > kick when the ball is put on the dot even while facing uphill with total > disbelief at the kind of game we have to play. > > Firstly let us agree - this draft will soon be a dodo because it is likely > to give real intellectuals and thinkers a fighting chance to think about and > explain to Kenyans what 'a constitution for Kenya' should *really *look > like. > > So let us look at this document more as an instrument than a > 'constitution'. Look at it as a tool, a weapon to help us get a real > constitution in our hands, one day (because that day is FAR). > > There is ever much more good in this draft than is worth risking to a > further lack of inertia which the rulers are wearing around their ankles > like a ball and shackle made of gold. > > What you are asking for (logic and common sense, and to be rid of this kind > of imperialism) may still take upto another 10 years of struggle, in my > opinion, because we are not just ruled by *these *thugs but also by a > class of shameless cultural imperialists from the *outside *who have firm > handle on the chameleon-skinned testicles and boobs of their agents here. > > This constitution is one notch closer to enabling us to put compassionate, > educated people in positions of power over the next decade, THOUGH NOT > WITHOUT THE HELP OF AMENDMENTS and FURTHER REWRITES, if necessary (why not - > if the playing field remains so slanted, still?) for which the people will > have to continue to agitate. This is a chance to give ourselves the > opportunity to think more freely, write more freely and BREAK *ALL *THE > RULES that we have been taught were good for us (but which are bad for us). > > I feel that in this fluid fast-changing world where we must break ALL THE > RULES in order to return to ourselves who we are, we have to use what tools > we have to GIVE THE PEOPLE THE POWER TO CHANGE THE RULES both internally and > in terms of our self-respect *vis-a-vis* the rest of the planet, AS A > LEADER IN THE HOW THE WORLD MUST THINK FORWARD. Let it go, David as the > last one will hang in there like an old carcass for too long and the smell > is really bad. All these ethnic things will eventually be all right if we > are really what we say we are, ie KENYANS. > > Mohamed Jiwa > > > On 8 April 2010 08:46, David ochwangi wrote: > >> Once again we are called upon to enact an historic document that if >> approved would reshape our nation for the better, we are told-does it? But >> once again, I am asking Kenyans of all walks of life to exercise caution and >> thread very carefully; this draft (attached) is half baked in my opinion and >> must either be revised thoroughly or simply be rejected. The just concluded >> parliamentary ?review?-if you dare call it a review, of the re-revised draft >> is perhaps the clearest manifestation of abdication of duty by the so called >> ?the people?s representatives? in decades. As much as we applaud the efforts >> made thus far, even as noted by Kenya?s most priced friend, US President >> Barrack Obama, we still must not allow a flawed document to pass the proper >> test of scrutiny or defer clearly observable problems in the draft to the >> future. *This is the time to GET IT RIGHT timelines and deadlines >> notwithstanding*. The need and benefits of getting this document right >> far outweighs and supersedes any arbitrary deadlines set up just for the >> sake of timelines. Not one, (1) amendment, ONE, was debated let alone passed >> to improve the document. I, like many Kenyans have patiently held back my >> consternation about the draft because we saw some improvements in Naivasha >> by the PSC vs. the original CoE draft; I expected this ?honorable? >> parliament to, at the very least, tweak the remaining issues and try to >> better this draft but once again, true to form, our traditionally do nothing >> and collect Millions in remuneration parliament failed us miserably, I mean >> it was to be expected but this degree of ineptitude by our representatives >> is just absurd. Let?s not forget that it is this parliament, to every man >> and woman, which gave us this perpetual confusion of the Grand Coalition, so >> there are no surprises here. In fact, the best barometer on how to proceed >> with respect to this draft is to observe where our rudderless ?leaders? >> stand on this draft and then RUN as far away in the opposite direction as >> you can! >> >> At the very minimum, any constitutional changes to the existing document >> must by necessity meet ALL of the following tests: >> >> a) Improve the welfare of every Kenyan, in other words, I as a voter must >> be satisfied that the changes will improve my standing in our country and by >> extension, all Kenyans, >> >> b) Is NEUTRAL and an EQUALIZER with respect to economic, political, >> social and religious provisions, i.e. no special interests are specifically >> provided for in the new document in the guise of correcting past >> ?injustices? or perpetuating a set of precedents, for instance, this just >> approved draft specifically provides special status and preference of the >> Islam religion and completely ignores all others, even concerns of the >> NON-MUSLIMS are completely ignored, it in effect makes Kenya an Islamic >> state, and therefore it fails this test, >> >> c) That any and all growth in government mandated in the new document must >> be fully paid for and is cost neutral (does not raise new taxes to fund >> the mandated growth) during the entire existence of the growth, in other >> words, it MUST NOT be funded through tax or debt increase or be a source of >> undue burden to the Kenyan taxpayer , none of the exponential growth in >> this new document is paid for and once again it fails this test and >> >> d) It must be realistic, promote individual responsibility by discouraging >> dependency and provide true mechanisms of enforcement otherwise it is not >> worth the effort nor the paper it is written on; for example the new >> document calls for a ?Welfare? state from cradle to grave where the less >> fortunate and their dependents become the ?charge? of the state; this is >> just too vague but clearly opens the Pandora?s box that the ?Nanny? state >> has no capacity nor the ability to support, neither the ?experts? nor >> the PSC have a CLUE what it is they are advocating; the system would crumble >> on its own weight and be saddled in eternal strife courtesy the so called >> ?BILL of RIGHTS?. >> >> This new draft law COMPOUNDS our problems, not improve the country. The >> following, in my humble opinion must be either removed or revised for this >> thing to have any true meaning at the referendum otherwise it is a nullity. >> >> *RELIGION: * >> >> Whatever happened to the doctrine of SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE? Islam >> is effectively it is expressly recognized and its legal functions funded by >> the taxpayers and we are being asked to endorse this, NO! I think it is * >> wrong* and for this reason alone, ALL non-Muslims should vote AGAINST >> this draft, it is unfair and simply untenable. The ?experts?, the PSC >> and Parliament as whole pejoratively made a complete mockery of this >> provision by trying to fool Kenyans in declaring that ?there shall be no >> state religion? but contemporaneously proceeded to effectively make Islam >> the de facto state sponsored religion in Kenya: The ?*Kadhi courts?* whose >> legal framework, ?Sharia? is based on the Holy Koran, is mentioned no less >> than *17 times* in the draft, the term ?*Muslim?* not less than *8 times; >> * there is no mention of any other religion! Why on earth would NON >> Muslims vote to approve a document so flagrantly discriminatory? What >> recourse do we have once we vote to subsidize Islam in Kenya? I know it is >> already in existence, trust me, I get it! So what difference would it make >> one way or the other voting for or against the new draft, right? I mean it >> doesn?t change the status quo and therefore, I am asking all NON-MUSLIMS >> *NOT *to endorse this historical injustice and inequity - we don?t want >> any part of it; let?s just keep what we have until we have a true chance to >> fix it once and for all. Some have argued that this has been in >> existence since independence, to them I say, so has the rest of the document >> and if the purpose of this exercise is to correct ?Historical injustices?, >> well then my fellow Kenyans, this is one of those historical injustices we >> simply can?t ignore and to the extent the sanctimonious ?experts? and >> Parliament have completely ignored our pleas, then we the people have no >> choice but to reject this fatally flawed document. This draft will fail >> not because of we the people but because our so called leaders failed, once >> again, to heed the people?s pleas, simple as that. But if on the other hand >> they choose to listen to the majority of Kenyans, there is a very simple >> remedy to this entire hullabaloo: The ?CoE? and parliament which has labored >> to copy other constitutions could learn from the US for example and address >> religion in the constitution as follows: >> >> *Parliament shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or >> prohibiting the free exercise thereof; (The US Constitution).*** >> >> Very simple, non controversial and fair approach that levels the playing >> field for every Kenyan, no sane human being, regardless of religion would >> find this discriminatory at all; this is not a denial of any religious >> rights but rather a fair basis of reinforcing and protecting ALL religious >> rights without favoritism. >> >> *BILL OF RIGHTS:* >> >> This draft practically transfers all individual responsibility to the >> state and creates a culture of dependency; it promotes ?Communism? which the >> country can ill afford, the same system that stagnated development in >> Tanzania for decades and led to the implosion of the Soviet Union. Its >> pronouncements will saddle taxpayers and the state in endless debt, unduly >> high tax burden, stifle investment, competition and court /tribunal fights >> over the so called ?FUNDAMENTAL/INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS?. Unless Kenya as a >> country has a surplus of funds, tones of surplus funds at that, to fund the >> new constitutional mandates, which have never been before promulgated in any >> constitution that I am aware of, we should be geared for generations of the >> welfare state. I don?t know where these ?experts? sourced their expertise or >> materials from on the subject matter but there is such a thing as >> COST/BENEFIT ANALYSIS, you don?t initiate a new program, much less >> constitutionally mandate one unless you can fund it, I mean it is the most >> natural and the logical thing to do, right? I mean even in the United >> States, arguably the world?s richest country does not have such ?BILL OF >> RIGHTS? in its constitution, what is Kenya smoking? What analysis did >> ODM,PNU or the ?CoE? conduct to arrive at the conclusion that individual >> responsibility in a country with over 50% unemployment and whose budget is >> always in the RED (Deficit) suddenly can mandate and pay for these new BILL >> of RIGHTS? How? Show me the money. It can only be done through increase in >> taxes, or globetrotting begging for funds, either way this is not good. The >> following need to be stricken off the draft: >> >> *Economic and social rights* >> >> 43. (1) Every person has the right? >> >> *1. **to the highest attainable standard of health, which includes >> the right to health care services, including reproductive health care;* >> >> *2. **to accessible and adequate housing, and to reasonable >> standards of sanitation;* >> >> *3. **to be free from hunger, and to have adequate food of >> acceptable quality;* >> >> *4. **to clean and safe water in adequate quantities;* >> >> *5. **to social security; and* >> >> *6. **to education.* >> >> (2) A person shall not be denied emergency medical treatment. >> >> (3) *The State shall provide appropriate social security to >> persons who are unable to support themselves and their dependants.* >> >> All these *?Economic and social rights?* above must be funded somehow, >> how do the experts propose to pay for them? How do we enforce these >> provisions? These unfunded mandates cannot be constitutional unless we have >> looked that far in the future and determined that we can honestly fulfill >> them; there is no analysis that I am aware of that guarantees that. This is >> nothing more than a poorly crafted set-up which will set the country on a >> permanent collision course with itself; nobody can guarantee Kenyans the >> highest attainable Health Standards without first telling us how to pay for >> it, it is a noble idea but a dream, not even in the US is Healthcare >> constitutionally guaranteed. Similarly, Social Security must be paid for, >> how? In the world?s richest country, not everyone ?unable? to support >> themselves is eligible for Social Security benefits much less their >> dependents, you must earn your way into Social Security benefits; further, >> Social Security is not a constitutional mandate/guarantee. My point fellow >> Kenyans is that we are being fed a *bill of goods*. >> >> >> >> * * >> >> *REPRESENTATION:* >> >> I don?t know what the experts were smoking when they crafted this chapter >> especially with respect with gender by mandating the following, *?not >> more than two-thirds of the members of elective public bodies shall be of >> the same gender?! B*ased on what? I can?t reconcile the principle of >> democracy (free choice) with this cockamamie of requiring representation >> based on gender, how do you even start enforcing this provision; the state >> police going to the each constituency and demanding that voters elect a >> woman or man in the name of ?democracy?? I mean how else are you going >> to enforce this thing? Any representation based affirmative action in favor >> of gender, age, disability or any other specially curved class of citizens >> is undemocratic and does NOT belong in any constitution. >> >> *LEGISLATURE/PARLIAMENT:* >> >> Do away with the senate; it is just a complete waste of resources to add >> another layer of rot on top of an way under-performing parliament. >> Parliament already has excess capacity, too much time on its hands, it is >> the most selfish and gluttonous body of self righteous humans on the face of >> the earth that I know. Why do we need to layer of rot? In fact, let?s trim >> parliament and make it more lean and efficient, require them to be on the >> clock and punch in every time they show up for ?work?, let?s demand that >> they earn an honest day?s living, then and only then would be an additional >> arm within the legislature be an issue, not now- particularly if the primary >> purpose of the senate is to ?check? the presidency, REALLY? UH! >> >> *COUNTY GOVERNMENTS/DEVOLUTION:* >> >> I am totally opposed to this new layer of government, no value or purpose >> whatsoever to the common taxpayer but a sinkhole for yet another layer of >> unfunded government expansion. This is indeed an unnecessary burden on the >> taxpayer, Kenya is not the size of Russia nor is her population that of >> China, we are relatively a small country and there is no need of Balkanizing >> the country with redundant and overlapping layers of government. For >> starters we already have the Provincial Administration, we also have the >> County governments overseen by the Ministry of Local Government, where have >> these two units failed that we need additional government? Paid by who? This >> is nothing more than a form of MAJIMBO which we must reject, has nothing >> whatsoever to do with bringing government to the people, NO! Don?t fall for >> it. >> >> *PRESIDENTIAL AUTHORITY AND ELECTION:* >> >> Let?s give the president *LINE ITEM VETO* authority to help efficiently >> and effectively pass good bills into law without the usual back and forth >> between the legislature and the executive. The current draft is too >> convoluted particularly with respect to when the president rejects >> parliament?s bill a second time, does the bill die or automatically become >> law? >> >> A simple majority should be all that is required to elect a president, >> 50% +1 of the votes cast; remove the 25% votes from more than one half of >> the ?Counties?; Democracy is about MAJORITY RULE MINORITY RIGHTS regardless >> of where the majority resides, this is a backward provision. >> >> Also the requirement that a petition challenging a presidential election >> be filed with the Supreme Court and determined within fourteen days is not >> only wrong, capricious and reckless but also extremely ill conceived and a >> mockery of justice and rule of law. Evidence takes a while especially in >> matters of national importance, I mean a petitioner or petitioners can be >> from all over the country, are these ?experts? some of them experienced >> attorneys telling us that lawsuits are filed and determined within 14 days? >> I mean is that even realistic? We want justice but not rushed phony justice >> driven by arbitrary deadlines, come on guys! >> >> *ATTORNEY GENERAL AND DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC PROSECUTIONS:* >> >> The draft gives complete protection and immunity of any and all sanctions >> against the Attorney General and heavily seeks to regulate his subordinate, >> the Director of Public Prosecutions! WHY? So in all likelihood we can end up >> with the DO NOTHINGS like the incompetent AMOS WACKO WAKO who is the epitome >> of impunity in Kenya as the head of law enforcement for decades; we need >> recourse, not of the Director of Public Prosecutions but rather the AG >> herself/himself, hellooooooooo! >> >> *JUDICIARY:* >> >> Too many layers of the court system; Supreme Court , court of Appeal, >> High Court, the Magistrates courts, Courts Martial, the Kadhis? courts; >> EH! >> >> *RATIFICATION:* >> >> Approval of any constitution must be a super majority and not a simple >> majority, we don?t need to divide the country in the middle, NO! >> >> Finally my friends, I have attached the revised copy of the Draft >> constitution with comments and I hope you will review it and comment as >> well; my point is that we shouldn?t pass or agree to pass something just for >> its historical significance alone even when it is palpably obvious that it >> is wrong. This draft is half baked and needs plenty of work, the politicians >> have acknowledged as much, we are tired of half baked goodies that end up >> consuming the public and its resources after passage, look around you, look >> at the confused Grand Coalition and what we are paying for it. Tell these >> folks that until and unless they fix this thing, the answer is very simple; >> your vote on this draft in its current form is *NO!* >> >> > > > -- > G Mohamed Jiwa > > > -- > 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? > > LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with > the aim of. > > ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters > in the school. > ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing > sporting items e.g. footballs. > ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing > sanitary pads for the girls > > Date: April 10th 2010 > > Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand > papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. > > For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 > > To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP > Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: > 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 > > Warmest Regards > Josephine Kamanthe > LYP Club Administrator > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? 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Lakini kadri ya siku zinavyozidi kwenda mashambulizi yanaendelea kuongezeka hizi kwa kasi zaidi moja ya sababu kuu ni kwa watu wengi kutokuwa na uelewa wa vitu vingi kuhusu usalama wa komputa na vifaa vyao na jinsi wanavyoweza kuvilinda haswa kwa kutumia program . Suala hilo la kutokuwa na uelewa mkubwa limechangia kwa kiasi kikubwa wahalifu wa mitandao kutumia njia hizo kupitishia mashambulizi yao kwenda kwa wengine muda mwingi bila ya mmoja au wote kujua . Suala la pili ni kwa kampuni nyingi zinazotengeneza program za ulinzi kama antivirus na firewalls na internet security kuwa na usiri mkubwa kati yao kiasi kwamba updates zinapotoka za antivirus Fulani zinakuwa ni kwa ajili ya program hiyo tu huwezi kutumia kwenye program nyingine . Hata kama updates hizo zikipatikana basi huwa ni kubwa hii inakuwa gharama kidogo kwa wale wenzetu kuweza kufanya updates kwenye mashine zao pindi wanapotaka kufanya hivyo endapo hakufanya updates kwa kipindi kirefu . Tatu ni kwa program hizi kuzidi kuwa kubwa kwa kuongezewa program zingine kwa ajili ya usalama wa mtu anayetumia kompyuta yake matokeo yake program moja haiwezi kufanya kazi zote hizo kwa wakati mmoja endapo itatakiwa kufanya hivyo kama ikitokea hivyo basi komputa hiyo inaweza kuwa taratibu zaidi . Nne ni huu utaratibu ulioanzishwa sasa hivi na kampuni la Microsoft kutoa antivirus yake bure kwa watu wanaotumia bidhaa zake mbalimbali hii inaweza kusababisha matatizo huko mbele kama ilivyokuwa na internet explorer na netscape enzi zile . Na tano ni nafasi ya afrika na nchi nyingine za kiafrika ambapo wananchi wake ni masikini lakini wanataka kutumia komputa zilizounganishwa kwenye mtandao kutumia program ambazo sio bandia zinazoweza kufanya kazi kama zingine za dunia ya kwanza , miaka michache iliyopita umoja wa ulaya umeweza kufikia makubaliano na kampuni kadhaa kubwa za kutengeneza program kwa ajili ya wananchi wao afrika naona bado tupo tupo . Kutokana na mambo hayo hapo juu tunaweza sasa kujiandaa na ujio wa aina nyingine ya program ambazo zinaweza kumaliza matatizo mengi ya kiulinzi na kiusalama kwa watumiaji wa mitandao , kuna suala la mwendo wa kuscan vitu vilivyohifadhiwa kwenye komputa au nje ya komputa , suala la kuweza kuupdate bidhaa yako kutumia update yoyote kama ni virus au la . -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lindakeya at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 05:25:24 2010 From: lindakeya at gmail.com (Linda keya) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:25:24 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Any gyne/infor on amniotic fluid embolism Message-ID: hey YPs, Any gyne in the house, i am working on a story on amniotic fluid embolism, could you kindly give me information or an interview we talk about the same. Thanks. Linda -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? 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Their steadfast commitment to overcoming any and all challenges and their unwavering determination led them to a discovery that has transformed the lives of millions.? And they will rise proudly to thundering applause, bursting with pride to have received the highest scientific accolade and to be recognized by their people for their contribution.? http://afrisciheroes.wordpress.com/2010/03/30/the-royal-african-science-prize/ Who would you nominate for a Royal African Science Prize? What kind of categories would you have? How would you engage the public? ? This is an idea for the African media...we should not just be celebrating the Sports and Arts. We can start regionally and in our own countries. ? 'As Africans we need our own prestigious science award to recognize our own scientific talents. Awards do exist in various disciplines, for various career levels, and ones specifically for women, but could you name one award that is revered across the continent?' ? ? -- 2 Days to go!!! 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For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mm.jannie at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 06:25:03 2010 From: mm.jannie at gmail.com (jane maurine gati) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:25:03 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] How does one identify a genuine Nokia phone Message-ID: A friend recently bought a Nokia phone made in India, however, it's accessories are made form China. The phone has the 1 year Nokia warranty from a said Nokia dealer. Is there a way to ascertain that this phone is genuine or not? -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? 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For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From denyutu at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 06:26:29 2010 From: denyutu at gmail.com (Dan Nyutu) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:26:29 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] WILL THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION PASS? Message-ID: Since parliament passed the constitution without a single amendments, several opposing voices have become very vocal. This time, the NO/ YES campaigns will be interesting as there seems to be no tribal alliances yet since major players from the main groups are in both sides of the divide. Major differences seems to be based on religion and land issues. What worries me is the fact that nearly 75% of Kenyans have no idea what the new constitution means for them. With such high ignorance, they will most likely be influenced or confused by the loudest voices from the two camps. Picture this from the likely NO camps; a. Kalonzo insists the draft should be changed. b. Ruto is under immense pressure in vote rich RV to reject it due to land issues c. major church groups have urged their faithful to reject it d. Balala is unhappy too due to the devolution chapter e. Other voices like MOI, Sirma, Musyimi etc f. voter apathy occasioned by last elections chaos mean many will not vote anyway. IDPs and central Kenya voters will likely stay home. With above groups likely to influence their supporters to vote NO, do you think it will pass the test? -- Daniel Nyutu Strategy Consultant Strategic Leadership Center International Horton Court, P.O. Box 3124-00100 Nairobi, Kenya. Tel: 3872252/ 3877637/ 2067622 Email: dnyutu at gmail.com Cell: 0728-200075 "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" Albert Einstein (Attributed) US (German born) Physicist (1879-1955) -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From situmanyongesa at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 06:58:15 2010 From: situmanyongesa at gmail.com (joseph nyongesa) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:58:15 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Suppose we had no stomachs? Message-ID: Suppose we had no stomachs? By no stomachs I mean that a) We are unable to be hungry. So that obesity will be as a result of taking too much of the new energy. b) We have not necessarily lost the sense of taste So much so that ?eating? physical foods would be a form of sport, or a luxury to feel diffrent tastes. We will not have waste because everything will come out as it went in save the chewing. Yak! c) We still the physical semblance of a stomach because we dont want to loose shape and therefore look ridiculous. After all image is shape. Supposing we had not stomach, like it or not nothing would change. Seeing that life is the stuff of competition, we will still compete for this new source of energy. The striffing of which will breed politicians...who will still have bred PEV. Happily Tusker will be taken, not for its taste-(as it is always taken any way). I will make an exction for tusker because men must moisten their souls. Granted there will be other celestial intoxicants. I will still not have many son`s like father Abraham because I would still be concerned by the wisdom of getting them energy (that is feeding for you humans). Worse I would still be here, an unhappy victim of a slow waiter, for the new celestial energy. All will be as it is. Till we change human nature. 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For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aggreyadoyo at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 07:14:16 2010 From: aggreyadoyo at gmail.com (aggrey adoyo) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:14:16 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] WHO PAYS THE CHIEF KADHI'S? In-Reply-To: References: <159069.30779.qm@web31805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <571281.2472.qm@web51005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <422474.28056.qm@web56701.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What happens when minority rights are violated? Regardless of the source of the rights it is always incumbent upon those in the majority to protect these rights for the minorities, once the rights have been recognized in canonical law. Compare Joshua 9 and 2 Samuel 21: 3When the inhabitants of (E )Gibeon heard what Joshua had done to Jericho and to Ai, 4*they also acted craftily and set out as envoys, *and took worn-out sacks on their donkeys, and wineskins worn-out and torn and mended, 5and worn-out and patched sandals on their feet, and worn-out clothes on themselves; and all the bread of their provision was dry and had become crumbled. 6They went to Joshua to the (F )camp at Gilgal and said to him and to the men of Israel, "We have come from a far country; now therefore, make a covenant with us." Joshua was deceived by the Gibeonites into entering a treaty with them. Regardless of this deception, he chose to maintain the treaty even though he had been deceived. Compare with this: King Samuel worked to destroy the Gibeonites, and as a result of his actions the Lord struck the land with famine (2 Sam.21:1Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David enquired of the LORD. And the LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites. What was the injustice? That some of the Gibeonites, to whom Joshua had promised 'constitutional' protection within the Israeli nation, were killed by King Saul. This injustice had to be avenged. The result? - 8But the king (David, understanding the injustice and wanting to avert famine against his kingdom) took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite: 9And he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them in the hill before the LORD: and they fell all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest. For the Christians that are eager to see this minority right thrown out of the constitution, you do well to consider the lessons that the Bible, from which you draw your religious identity, gives us this example. Also, remember that a No vote gives us the old constitution, which still has the Kadhi courts. Aggrey Adoyo On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Sally Malinda wrote: > Yes....Hesbon........I support your view. When we talk of correcting > 'Historical injustices', this is one big one! Why should Christians pay > taxes to support the views of a religion they do not subscribe to? let us > treat all religions equally!!! > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Hesborn Moriasi wrote: > >> hey people >> i know that whenever christians have issues with marriage, they consult a >> priest to advise and sort it out. these priests are learned in canon >> law(chrstian law-theology). but they havent poked into taxpayers money for >> years even for saving so many marriages. islam brothers, it isnt hate, just >> equality!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> any supporter? >> hesbon >> >> >> On 7 April 2010 22:48, Gichuru wrote: >> >>> Winnie, >>> This link could also be helpful: >>> http://kenya.rcbowen.com/constitution/chap4.html >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 5:56 PM, kennedy waweru wrote: >>> >>>> Noha. >>>> Please let us know how many Christian institutions (serving Christians >>>> only) get funded by the government. Tell us of any other government entity >>>> where qualification is based on religion or tribe and enshrined in the >>>> constitution. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* NOHA NEP >>>> >>>> *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com >>>> *Sent:* Wed, April 7, 2010 4:47:47 PM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [YP_Ke] WHO PAYS THE CHIEF KADHI'S? >>>> >>>> Helo doreen. >>>> Also take the trouble of finding out how many christian institutions get >>>> government funding. The khadis court serves muslim tax payers only on >>>> matters of marriage,divorce and inheritance. they are less than 20 khadis >>>> serving a muslim population of over 10 million people. make your >>>> arithmetics. after all lets learn to be a tolerant society who respect each >>>> other. we should take lessons from the failed states that sorround us >>>> because of intolerance. >>>> Abdullahi >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/7/10, Doreen Mutyota wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Not him only. all staff under Kadhis courts >>>>> >>>>> *Ndinda Mutyota* >>>>> " Do not doubt in darkness what the Lord told you in the light" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- On *Wed, 4/7/10, WINFRED NYAMBURA * wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: WINFRED NYAMBURA >>>>> Subject: [YP_Ke] WHO PAYS THE CHIEF KADHI'S? >>>>> To: youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com >>>>> Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 4:30 AM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> I need to understand this, is the chief Kadhi paid from Tax payers >>>>> money? I heard someone talking about it on TV and wanted to find out the >>>>> truth of this. And if he is paid from Tax payers money, why is that? >>>>> >>>>> NOTE: I dont expect war of words from people. 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URL: From dochwangi at yahoo.com Thu Apr 8 01:52:00 2010 From: dochwangi at yahoo.com (David ochwangi) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 22:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] SAY "NO" TO THE NEW DRAFT CONSTITUTION IN KENYA! Message-ID: <459437.28095.qm@web30404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Once again we are called upon to enact an historic document that if approved would reshape our nation for the better, we are told-does it? But once again, I am asking Kenyans of all walks of life to exercise caution and thread very carefully; this draft (attached) is half baked in my opinion and must either be revised thoroughly or simply be rejected. The just concluded parliamentary ?review?-if you dare call it a review, of the re-revised draft is perhaps the clearest manifestation of abdication of duty by the so called ?the people?s representatives? in decades. As much as we applaud the efforts made thus far, even as noted by Kenya?s most priced friend, US President Barrack Obama, we still must not allow a flawed document to pass the proper test of scrutiny or defer clearly observable problems in the draft to the future. This is the time to GET IT RIGHT timelines and deadlines notwithstanding. The need and benefits of getting this document right far outweighs and supersedes any arbitrary deadlines set up just for the sake of timelines. Not one, (1) amendment, ONE, was debated let alone passed to improve the document. I, like many Kenyans have patiently held back my consternation about the draft because we saw some improvements in Naivasha by the PSC vs. the original CoE draft; I expected this ?honorable? parliament to, at the very least, tweak the remaining issues and try to better this draft but once again, true to form, our traditionally do nothing and collect Millions in remuneration parliament failed us miserably, I mean it was to be expected but this degree of ineptitude by our representatives is just absurd. Let?s not forget that it is this parliament, to every man and woman, which gave us this perpetual confusion of the Grand Coalition, so there are no surprises here. In fact, the best barometer on how to proceed with respect to this draft is to observe where our rudderless ?leaders? stand on this draft and then RUN as far away in the opposite direction as you can! ?At the very minimum, any constitutional changes to the existing document must by necessity meet ALL of the following tests: a) Improve the welfare of every Kenyan, in other words, I as a voter must be satisfied that the changes will improve my standing in our country and by extension, all Kenyans, ?b) Is NEUTRAL and an EQUALIZER with respect to economic, political, social and religious provisions, i.e. no special interests are specifically provided for in the new document in the guise of correcting past ?injustices? or perpetuating a set of precedents, for instance, this just approved draft specifically provides special status and preference of the Islam religion and completely ignores all others, ?even concerns of the NON-MUSLIMS are completely ignored, it in effect makes Kenya an Islamic state, and therefore it fails this test, c) That any and all growth in government mandated in the new document must be fully paid for ?and is cost neutral (does not raise new taxes to fund the mandated growth) during the entire existence of the growth, in other words, it MUST NOT be funded through tax or debt increase or be a source of undue burden? to the Kenyan taxpayer , none of the exponential growth in this new document is paid for and once again it fails this test and d) It must be realistic, promote individual responsibility by discouraging dependency and provide true mechanisms of enforcement otherwise it is not worth the effort nor the paper it is written on; for example the new document calls for a ?Welfare? state from cradle to grave where the less fortunate and their dependents become the ?charge? of the state; this is just too vague but clearly opens the Pandora?s box that the ?Nanny? state ?has no capacity nor the ability to support, neither the ?experts? nor the PSC have a CLUE what it is they are advocating; the system would crumble on its own weight and be saddled in eternal strife courtesy the so called ?BILL of RIGHTS?. This new draft law COMPOUNDS our problems, not improve the country. The following, in my humble opinion must be either removed or revised for this thing to have any true meaning at the referendum otherwise it is a nullity. RELIGION: Whatever happened to the doctrine of SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE? Islam is effectively it is expressly recognized and its legal functions funded by the taxpayers and we are being asked to endorse this, NO! I think it is wrong and for this reason alone, ALL non-Muslims should vote AGAINST this draft, it is unfair and simply untenable. ?The ?experts?, the PSC and Parliament as whole pejoratively made a complete mockery of this provision by trying to fool Kenyans in declaring that ?there shall be no state religion? but contemporaneously proceeded to effectively make Islam the de facto state sponsored religion in Kenya: ?The ?Kadhi courts? whose legal framework, ?Sharia? is based on the Holy Koran, is mentioned no less than 17 times in the draft, the term ?Muslim? not less than 8 times; there is no mention of any other religion! Why on earth would NON Muslims vote to approve a document so flagrantly discriminatory? What recourse do we have once we vote to subsidize Islam in Kenya? I know it is already in existence, trust me, I get it! So what difference would it make one way or the other voting for or against the new draft, right? I mean it doesn?t change the status quo and therefore, I am asking all NON-MUSLIMS NOT to endorse this historical injustice and inequity - we don?t want any part of it; let?s just keep what we have until we have a true chance to fix it once and for all.? Some have argued that this has been in existence since independence, to them I say, so has the rest of the document and if the purpose of this exercise is to correct ?Historical injustices?, well then my fellow Kenyans, this is one of those historical injustices we simply can?t ignore and to the extent the sanctimonious ?experts? and Parliament have completely ignored our pleas, then we the people have no choice but to reject this fatally flawed document.? This draft will fail not because of we the people but because our so called leaders failed, once again, to heed the people?s pleas, simple as that. But if on the other hand they choose to listen to the majority of Kenyans, there is a very simple remedy to this entire hullabaloo: The ?CoE? and parliament which has labored to copy other constitutions could learn from the US for example and address religion in the constitution as follows: Parliament shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; (The US Constitution). Very simple, non controversial and fair approach that levels the playing field for every Kenyan, no sane human being, regardless of religion would find this discriminatory at all; this is not a denial of any religious rights but rather a fair basis of reinforcing and protecting ALL religious rights without favoritism. BILL OF RIGHTS: This draft practically transfers all individual responsibility to the state and creates a culture of dependency; it promotes ?Communism? which the country can ill afford, the same system that stagnated development in Tanzania for decades and led to the implosion of the Soviet Union. Its pronouncements will saddle taxpayers and the state in endless debt, unduly high tax burden, stifle investment, competition and court /tribunal fights over the so called ?FUNDAMENTAL/INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS?.? Unless Kenya as a country has a surplus of funds, tones of surplus funds at that, to fund the new constitutional mandates, which have never been before promulgated in any constitution that I am aware of, we should be geared for generations of the welfare state. I don?t know where these ?experts? sourced their expertise or materials from on the subject matter but there is such a thing as COST/BENEFIT ANALYSIS, you don?t initiate a new program, much less constitutionally mandate one unless you can fund it, I mean it is the most natural and the logical thing to do, right? I mean even in the United States, arguably the world?s richest country does not have such ?BILL OF RIGHTS? in its constitution, what is Kenya smoking? What analysis did ODM,PNU or the ?CoE? conduct to arrive at the conclusion that individual responsibility in a country with over 50% unemployment and whose budget is always in the RED (Deficit) suddenly can mandate and pay for these new BILL of RIGHTS? How? Show me the money. It can only be done through increase in taxes, or globetrotting begging for funds, either way this is not good. The following need to be stricken off the draft: ????????? Economic and social rights 43.? (1)??? Every person has the right? 1.????? to the highest attainable standard of health, which includes the right to health care services, including reproductive health care; 2.????? to accessible and adequate housing, and to reasonable standards of sanitation; 3.????? to be free from hunger, and to have adequate food of acceptable quality; 4.????? to clean and safe water in adequate quantities; 5.????? to social security; and 6.????? to education. (2)????????? A person shall not be denied emergency medical treatment. (3)????????? The State shall provide appropriate social security to persons who are unable to ?support themselves and their dependants. All these ?Economic and social rights? above must be funded somehow, how do the experts propose to pay for them?? How do we enforce these provisions? These unfunded mandates cannot be constitutional unless we have looked that far in the future and determined that we can honestly fulfill them; there is no analysis that I am aware of that guarantees that. This is nothing more than a poorly crafted set-up which will set the country on a permanent collision course with itself; nobody can guarantee Kenyans the highest attainable Health Standards without first telling us how to pay for it, it is a noble idea but a dream, not even in the US is Healthcare constitutionally guaranteed. Similarly, Social Security must be paid for, how? In the world?s richest country, not everyone ?unable? to support themselves is eligible for Social Security benefits much less their dependents, you must earn your way into Social Security benefits; further, Social Security is not a constitutional mandate/guarantee. My point fellow Kenyans is that we are being fed a bill of goods. ? ? REPRESENTATION: I don?t know what the experts were smoking when they crafted this chapter especially with respect with gender by mandating the following, ?not more than two-thirds of the members of elective public bodies shall be of the same gender?! Based on what? I can?t reconcile the principle of democracy (free choice) with this cockamamie of requiring representation based on gender, how do you even start enforcing this provision; the state police going to the each constituency and demanding that voters elect a woman or man in the name of ?democracy??? I mean how else are you going to enforce this thing? Any representation based affirmative action in favor of gender, age, disability or any other specially curved class of citizens is undemocratic and does NOT belong in any constitution. LEGISLATURE/PARLIAMENT: Do away with the senate; it is just a complete waste of resources to add another layer of rot on top of an way under-performing parliament. Parliament already has excess capacity, too much time on its hands, it is the most selfish and gluttonous body of self righteous humans on the face of the earth that I know. Why do we need to layer of rot? In fact, let?s trim parliament and make it more lean and efficient, require them to be on the clock and punch in every time they show up for ?work?, let?s demand that they earn an honest day?s living, then and only then would be an additional arm within the legislature be an issue, not now- particularly if the primary purpose of the senate is to ?check? the presidency, REALLY? UH! COUNTY GOVERNMENTS/DEVOLUTION: I am totally opposed to this new layer of government, no value or purpose whatsoever to the common taxpayer but a sinkhole for yet another layer of unfunded government expansion. This is indeed an unnecessary burden on the taxpayer, Kenya is not the size of Russia nor is her population that of China, we are relatively a small country and there is no need of Balkanizing the country with redundant and overlapping layers of government. For starters we already have the Provincial Administration, we also have the County governments overseen by the Ministry of Local Government, where have these two units failed that we need additional government? Paid by who? This is nothing more than a form of MAJIMBO which we must reject, has nothing whatsoever to do with bringing government to the people, NO! Don?t fall for it. PRESIDENTIAL AUTHORITY AND ELECTION: Let?s give the president LINE ITEM VETO authority to help efficiently and effectively pass good bills into law without the usual back and forth between the legislature and the executive. The current draft is too convoluted particularly with respect to when the president rejects parliament?s bill a second time, does the bill die or automatically become law? ?A simple majority should be all that is required to elect a president, 50% +1 of the votes cast; remove the 25% votes from more than one half of the ?Counties?; Democracy is about MAJORITY RULE MINORITY RIGHTS regardless of where the majority resides, this is a backward provision. Also the requirement that a petition challenging a presidential election be filed with the Supreme Court and determined within fourteen days is not only wrong, capricious and reckless but also extremely ill conceived and a mockery of justice and rule of law. Evidence takes a while especially in matters of national importance, I mean a petitioner or petitioners can be from all over the country, are these ?experts? some of them experienced attorneys telling us that lawsuits are filed and determined within 14 days? I mean is that even realistic? We want justice but not rushed phony justice driven by arbitrary deadlines, come on guys! ATTORNEY GENERAL AND DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC PROSECUTIONS: The draft gives complete protection and immunity of any and all sanctions against the Attorney General and heavily seeks to regulate his subordinate, the Director of Public Prosecutions! WHY? So in all likelihood we can end up with the DO NOTHINGS like the incompetent AMOS WACKO WAKO who is the epitome of impunity in Kenya as the head of law enforcement for decades; we need recourse, not of the Director of Public Prosecutions but rather the AG herself/himself, hellooooooooo! JUDICIARY: Too many layers of the court system; Supreme Court , court of Appeal, High Court, the Magistrates courts, Courts Martial, the Kadhis? courts; EH! RATIFICATION: Approval of any constitution must be a super majority and not a simple majority, we don?t need to divide the country in the middle, NO! Finally my friends, I have attached the revised copy of the Draft constitution with comments and I hope you will review it and comment as well; my point is that we shouldn?t pass or agree to pass something just for its historical significance alone even when it is palpably obvious that it is wrong. This draft is half baked and needs plenty of work, the politicians have acknowledged as much, we are tired of half baked goodies that end up consuming the public and its resources after passage, look around you, look at the confused Grand Coalition and what we are paying for it. Tell these folks that until and unless they fix this thing, the answer is very simple; your vote on this draft in its current form is NO! -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thought this might be of interest for others?. ? ? -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 160_know_your_rights[1][3].pdf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 497657 bytes Desc: 160_know_your_rights[1][3].pdf URL: From dochwangi at yahoo.com Thu Apr 8 02:23:56 2010 From: dochwangi at yahoo.com (David ochwangi) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] Re: SAY "NO" TO THE NEW DRAFT CONSTITUTION IN KENYA! Message-ID: <680497.38437.qm@web30401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Once again we are called upon to enact an historic document that if approved would reshape our nation for the better, we are told-does it? But once again, I am asking Kenyans of all walks of life to exercise caution and thread very carefully; this draft (attached) is half baked in my opinion and must either be revised thoroughly or simply be rejected. The just concluded parliamentary ?review?-if you dare call it a review, of the re-revised draft is perhaps the clearest manifestation of abdication of duty by the so called ?the people?s representatives? in decades. As much as we applaud the efforts made thus far, even as noted by Kenya?s most priced friend, US President Barrack Obama, we still must not allow a flawed document to pass the proper test of scrutiny or defer clearly observable problems in the draft to the future. This is the time to GET IT RIGHT timelines and deadlines notwithstanding. The need and benefits of getting this document right far outweighs and supersedes any arbitrary deadlines set up just for the sake of timelines. Not one, (1) amendment, ONE, was debated let alone passed to improve the document. I, like many Kenyans have patiently held back my consternation about the draft because we saw some improvements in Naivasha by the PSC vs. the original CoE draft; I expected this ?honorable? parliament to, at the very least, tweak the remaining issues and try to better this draft but once again, true to form, our traditionally do nothing and collect Millions in remuneration parliament failed us miserably, I mean it was to be expected but this degree of ineptitude by our representatives is just absurd. Let?s not forget that it is this parliament, to every man and woman, which gave us this perpetual confusion of the Grand Coalition, so there are no surprises here. In fact, the best barometer on how to proceed with respect to this draft is to observe where our rudderless ?leaders? stand on this draft and then RUN as far away in the opposite direction as you can! ?At the very minimum, any constitutional changes to the existing document must by necessity meet ALL of the following tests: a) Improve the welfare of every Kenyan, in other words, I as a voter must be satisfied that the changes will improve my standing in our country and by extension, all Kenyans, ?b) Is NEUTRAL and an EQUALIZER with respect to economic, political, social and religious provisions, i.e. no special interests are specifically provided for in the new document in the guise of correcting past ?injustices? or perpetuating a set of precedents, for instance, this just approved draft specifically provides special status and preference of the Islam religion and completely ignores all others, ?even concerns of the NON-MUSLIMS are completely ignored, it in effect makes Kenya an Islamic state, and therefore it fails this test, c) That any and all growth in government mandated in the new document must be fully paid for ?and is cost neutral (does not raise new taxes to fund the mandated growth) during the entire existence of the growth, in other words, it MUST NOT be funded through tax or debt increase or be a source of undue burden? to the Kenyan taxpayer , none of the exponential growth in this new document is paid for and once again it fails this test and d) It must be realistic, promote individual responsibility by discouraging dependency and provide true mechanisms of enforcement otherwise it is not worth the effort nor the paper it is written on; for example the new document calls for a ?Welfare? state from cradle to grave where the less fortunate and their dependents become the ?charge? of the state; this is just too vague but clearly opens the Pandora?s box that the ?Nanny? state ?has no capacity nor the ability to support, neither the ?experts? nor the PSC have a CLUE what it is they are advocating; the system would crumble on its own weight and be saddled in eternal strife courtesy the so called ?BILL of RIGHTS?. This new draft law COMPOUNDS our problems, not improve the country. The following, in my humble opinion must be either removed or revised for this thing to have any true meaning at the referendum otherwise it is a nullity. RELIGION: Whatever happened to the doctrine of SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE? Islam is effectively it is expressly recognized and its legal functions funded by the taxpayers and we are being asked to endorse this, NO! I think it is wrong and for this reason alone, ALL non-Muslims should vote AGAINST this draft, it is unfair and simply untenable. ?The ?experts?, the PSC and Parliament as whole pejoratively made a complete mockery of this provision by trying to fool Kenyans in declaring that ?there shall be no state religion? but contemporaneously proceeded to effectively make Islam the de facto state sponsored religion in Kenya: ?The ?Kadhi courts? whose legal framework, ?Sharia? is based on the Holy Koran, is mentioned no less than 17 times in the draft, the term ?Muslim? not less than 8 times; there is no mention of any other religion! Why on earth would NON Muslims vote to approve a document so flagrantly discriminatory? What recourse do we have once we vote to subsidize Islam in Kenya? I know it is already in existence, trust me, I get it! So what difference would it make one way or the other voting for or against the new draft, right? I mean it doesn?t change the status quo and therefore, I am asking all NON-MUSLIMS NOT to endorse this historical injustice and inequity - we don?t want any part of it; let?s just keep what we have until we have a true chance to fix it once and for all.? Some have argued that this has been in existence since independence, to them I say, so has the rest of the document and if the purpose of this exercise is to correct ?Historical injustices?, well then my fellow Kenyans, this is one of those historical injustices we simply can?t ignore and to the extent the sanctimonious ?experts? and Parliament have completely ignored our pleas, then we the people have no choice but to reject this fatally flawed document.? This draft will fail not because of we the people but because our so called leaders failed, once again, to heed the people?s pleas, simple as that. But if on the other hand they choose to listen to the majority of Kenyans, there is a very simple remedy to this entire hullabaloo: The ?CoE? and parliament which has labored to copy other constitutions could learn from the US for example and address religion in the constitution as follows: Parliament shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; (The US Constitution). Very simple, non controversial and fair approach that levels the playing field for every Kenyan, no sane human being, regardless of religion would find this discriminatory at all; this is not a denial of any religious rights but rather a fair basis of reinforcing and protecting ALL religious rights without favoritism. BILL OF RIGHTS: This draft practically transfers all individual responsibility to the state and creates a culture of dependency; it promotes ?Communism? which the country can ill afford, the same system that stagnated development in Tanzania for decades and led to the implosion of the Soviet Union. Its pronouncements will saddle taxpayers and the state in endless debt, unduly high tax burden, stifle investment, competition and court /tribunal fights over the so called ?FUNDAMENTAL/INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS?.? Unless Kenya as a country has a surplus of funds, tones of surplus funds at that, to fund the new constitutional mandates, which have never been before promulgated in any constitution that I am aware of, we should be geared for generations of the welfare state. I don?t know where these ?experts? sourced their expertise or materials from on the subject matter but there is such a thing as COST/BENEFIT ANALYSIS, you don?t initiate a new program, much less constitutionally mandate one unless you can fund it, I mean it is the most natural and the logical thing to do, right? I mean even in the United States, arguably the world?s richest country does not have such ?BILL OF RIGHTS? in its constitution, what is Kenya smoking? What analysis did ODM,PNU or the ?CoE? conduct to arrive at the conclusion that individual responsibility in a country with over 50% unemployment and whose budget is always in the RED (Deficit) suddenly can mandate and pay for these new BILL of RIGHTS? How? Show me the money. It can only be done through increase in taxes, or globetrotting begging for funds, either way this is not good. The following need to be stricken off the draft: ????????? Economic and social rights 43.? (1)??? Every person has the right? 1.????? to the highest attainable standard of health, which includes the right to health care services, including reproductive health care; 2.????? to accessible and adequate housing, and to reasonable standards of sanitation; 3.????? to be free from hunger, and to have adequate food of acceptable quality; 4.????? to clean and safe water in adequate quantities; 5.????? to social security; and 6.????? to education. (2)????????? A person shall not be denied emergency medical treatment. (3)????????? The State shall provide appropriate social security to persons who are unable to ?support themselves and their dependants. All these ?Economic and social rights? above must be funded somehow, how do the experts propose to pay for them?? How do we enforce these provisions? These unfunded mandates cannot be constitutional unless we have looked that far in the future and determined that we can honestly fulfill them; there is no analysis that I am aware of that guarantees that. This is nothing more than a poorly crafted set-up which will set the country on a permanent collision course with itself; nobody can guarantee Kenyans the highest attainable Health Standards without first telling us how to pay for it, it is a noble idea but a dream, not even in the US is Healthcare constitutionally guaranteed. Similarly, Social Security must be paid for, how? In the world?s richest country, not everyone ?unable? to support themselves is eligible for Social Security benefits much less their dependents, you must earn your way into Social Security benefits; further, Social Security is not a constitutional mandate/guarantee. My point fellow Kenyans is that we are being fed a bill of goods. ? ? REPRESENTATION: I don?t know what the experts were smoking when they crafted this chapter especially with respect with gender by mandating the following, ?not more than two-thirds of the members of elective public bodies shall be of the same gender?! Based on what? I can?t reconcile the principle of democracy (free choice) with this cockamamie of requiring representation based on gender, how do you even start enforcing this provision; the state police going to the each constituency and demanding that voters elect a woman or man in the name of ?democracy??? I mean how else are you going to enforce this thing? Any representation based affirmative action in favor of gender, age, disability or any other specially curved class of citizens is undemocratic and does NOT belong in any constitution. LEGISLATURE/PARLIAMENT: Do away with the senate; it is just a complete waste of resources to add another layer of rot on top of an way under-performing parliament. Parliament already has excess capacity, too much time on its hands, it is the most selfish and gluttonous body of self righteous humans on the face of the earth that I know. Why do we need to layer of rot? In fact, let?s trim parliament and make it more lean and efficient, require them to be on the clock and punch in every time they show up for ?work?, let?s demand that they earn an honest day?s living, then and only then would be an additional arm within the legislature be an issue, not now- particularly if the primary purpose of the senate is to ?check? the presidency, REALLY? UH! COUNTY GOVERNMENTS/DEVOLUTION: I am totally opposed to this new layer of government, no value or purpose whatsoever to the common taxpayer but a sinkhole for yet another layer of unfunded government expansion. This is indeed an unnecessary burden on the taxpayer, Kenya is not the size of Russia nor is her population that of China, we are relatively a small country and there is no need of Balkanizing the country with redundant and overlapping layers of government. For starters we already have the Provincial Administration, we also have the County governments overseen by the Ministry of Local Government, where have these two units failed that we need additional government? Paid by who? This is nothing more than a form of MAJIMBO which we must reject, has nothing whatsoever to do with bringing government to the people, NO! Don?t fall for it. PRESIDENTIAL AUTHORITY AND ELECTION: Let?s give the president LINE ITEM VETO authority to help efficiently and effectively pass good bills into law without the usual back and forth between the legislature and the executive. The current draft is too convoluted particularly with respect to when the president rejects parliament?s bill a second time, does the bill die or automatically become law? ?A simple majority should be all that is required to elect a president, 50% +1 of the votes cast; remove the 25% votes from more than one half of the ?Counties?; Democracy is about MAJORITY RULE MINORITY RIGHTS regardless of where the majority resides, this is a backward provision. Also the requirement that a petition challenging a presidential election be filed with the Supreme Court and determined within fourteen days is not only wrong, capricious and reckless but also extremely ill conceived and a mockery of justice and rule of law. Evidence takes a while especially in matters of national importance, I mean a petitioner or petitioners can be from all over the country, are these ?experts? some of them experienced attorneys telling us that lawsuits are filed and determined within 14 days? I mean is that even realistic? We want justice but not rushed phony justice driven by arbitrary deadlines, come on guys! ATTORNEY GENERAL AND DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC PROSECUTIONS: The draft gives complete protection and immunity of any and all sanctions against the Attorney General and heavily seeks to regulate his subordinate, the Director of Public Prosecutions! WHY? So in all likelihood we can end up with the DO NOTHINGS like the incompetent AMOS WACKO WAKO who is the epitome of impunity in Kenya as the head of law enforcement for decades; we need recourse, not of the Director of Public Prosecutions but rather the AG herself/himself, hellooooooooo! JUDICIARY: Too many layers of the court system; Supreme Court , court of Appeal, High Court, the Magistrates courts, Courts Martial, the Kadhis? courts; EH! RATIFICATION: Approval of any constitution must be a super majority and not a simple majority, we don?t need to divide the country in the middle, NO! Finally my friends, I have attached the revised copy of the Draft constitution with comments and I hope you will review it and comment as well; my point is that we shouldn?t pass or agree to pass something just for its historical significance alone even when it is palpably obvious that it is wrong. This draft is half baked and needs plenty of work, the politicians have acknowledged as much, we are tired of half baked goodies that end up consuming the public and its resources after passage, look around you, look at the confused Grand Coalition and what we are paying for it. Tell these folks that until and unless they fix this thing, the answer is very simple; your vote on this draft in its current form is NO! -- 2 Days to go!!! HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED? LYP-Mombasa- Paint A School Project. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Event: To give a face lift to MM Shar Primary School near Nyali Bridge with the aim of. ? Providing a better learning environment to our young brothers and sisters in the school. ? Encourage the development of talent among the students; by providing sporting items e.g. footballs. ? Identify with the needs of the girl child in the school, by providing sanitary pads for the girls Date: April 10th 2010 Items needed: Emulsion Paint/ paint brushes/turpentine, Latex Sand papers/ladders/sports accessories/Sanitary pads. For more information contact Josephine on ; 0723 736086 To confirm attendance and for your contribution(MPESA/ZAP) contact LYP Mombasa Club Treasurer, Jackie Muriithi at jackiekoi at yahoo.com, Mpesa: 0722988481 /Zap:0732908520 Warmest Regards Josephine Kamanthe LYP Club Administrator To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com Thu Apr 8 09:33:39 2010 From: Dickens.Odhiambo at gmsi.com (Dickens Odhiambo) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:33:39 -0400 Subject: [Jambo] LEADERSHIP :- Kenya university dons call off strike Message-ID: Kenya university dons call off strike BY PM PRESS SERVICE Updated : 7 hours and 43 minutes ago NAIROBI, Kenya, Apr 8 - The intended strike by the public university staff that was slated for Thursday has been called off following negotiations brokered by Prime Minister Raila Odinga. The strike was called off following the government's resolve that the last instalment of the outstanding payments of Sh2 billion will be provided for in the 2010-2011 budget and paid at the beginning of July 2010. The Secretary General of the University Academic Staff Union (UASU) Professor Muga K'olale who was accompanied by union officials called off the strike and called the government to honour the commitment to pay. Finance PS Joseph Kinyua presented a signed letter to his Higher education counterpart Professor Crispus Kiamba committing the government to pay the last instalment of 2008/09-2009/10 financial years collective bargaining agreements which the university staff have been agitating for. This was an outcome of a meeting convened by the Prime minister putting together the ministries of Higher education, Science and Technology represented by Minister Sally Kosgey and PS Prof Crispus Kiamba, Finance represented by Deputy PM Uhuru Kenyatta, PS Kinyua and all public universities councils and the three unions. The PM said that public universities are part of the government and it was the government's wish that all its workers are well remunerated. "As government we want to see that the university staff is paid well. I appeal to unions not to use the weapon of strike menacingly but as a weapon of the last resort," the PM said. Raila said that challenges that faced the economy in the ending financial year compromised the government's ability to honour the CBA adding that this agreement will now be factored in the coming budget. "These commitments were done after the budget had been passed," he said, adding that other challenges that faced the economy worsened the situation citing last year famine that cost the exchequer Sh25billion and the ravages of the floods amounting to over Sh5billion. The PM regretted that 94.7 percent of the GDP goes to recurrent expenditure in terms of payment of salaries leaving only 2.7 percent for development expenditure and noted that for the economy to grow more funds need to be invested in infrastructural development. "This trend must be reversed because we cannot borrow money from donors in order to pay salaries". He observed. The chairman of the Vice-chancellors committee Prof Fredrick Onyango expressed gratitude that the looming strike had been diffused. Read more: http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Kenyanews/Kenya-university-dons-call-off-str ike-8046.html#ixzz0kW3lwtwe Under Creative Commons License: Attribution Non-Commercial No Derivatives From brykarp2000 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Apr 8 09:49:26 2010 From: brykarp2000 at yahoo.co.uk (Brian Karimi) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:49:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] FW: APPLICATION FOR THE POSITION OF FINANCIAL ACCOUNTANT. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <535335.15109.qm@web27807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Don't bother, the oldest con game in the world.Do your math 250 may not appear like a lot of money, but with some jobs attracting 1,000 applicants, do your math.N then again, Brookside Drive in Diani, never heard of it and I have been here the last fifteen years. --- On Thu, 8/4/10, Catherine Wekesa wrote: From: Catherine Wekesa Subject: [YP_Ke] FW: APPLICATION FOR THE POSITION OF FINANCIAL ACCOUNTANT. To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, 8 April, 2010, 14:41 Hallo Good People, ? I am not sure if this is or a hoax but I am just wondering if I was to interview anyone why should I charge them for the interview and yet they are in Nairobi and will be forced to travel which is an expense then mpesa and I may not get the job? ? Can someone check them out please, anyone in coast. ? This crooks need to be stopped. ? -----Original Message----- From: XXXXXXX [mailto:XXXXXXXXXX] Sent: 08 April 2010 13:50 To: Catherine Wekesa Subject: Fwd: APPLICATION FOR THE POSITION OF FINANCIAL ACCOUNTANT. ? Hi , Catherine please see the attached position which I have been shortlisted, but they are asking for 250 for placement. Should I proceed please advice. regards, Michael ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Afrotex jobs Date: Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:03 PM Subject: Re: APPLICATION FOR THE POSITION OF FINANCIAL ACCOUNTANT. To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX> AFROTEX P.o Box 80110? - MOMBASA????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?Email:afrotexjobs at gmail.com.Telefax:+254-(0)41-6253955 cell: 0724056746?????????????????????????????????? ? ? RE: INTERVIEW (Ref. no. aft 05) Following your application,we are glad to inform you that you have been shortlisted as a FINANCIAL ACCOUNTANT and should appear in our offices at Brook house,off beach drive,DIANI/MOMBASA? on APRIL 23, 2010 at 11am . ? When you come, bring the following with you; ? -Original certificates and testimonials -Your National ID card -Two color passport size photos ? You are required to send Ksh 250 via MPESA to our cellphone? number (0724056746) this is for your placement. This should be received on or before April 9, 2010 ? Canvassing of any kind may lead to automatic disqualification. ? Looking forward to meeting you on that day. ? GEREMY Mc VEY, (DIRECTOR) ? 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We have knuckle heads like Ochwangi and Kamau who will vote simply because Raila supports the constitution. Ochwangi has said exactly that.. SO TAKE THE DRAFT TO THE PEOPLE lets the people decide...Stop all this nonsense...and follow the Constitutional Review Act 2008... --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Kuria-Mwangi wrote: > From: Kuria-Mwangi > Subject: [YP_Ke] Re: The KEJUDE take on Kadhi courts, Abortion debate > To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com > Cc: "Neto Agostinho" , "Kenya Forum" , "KCA" , "Africa-Oped" > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 2:51 PM > Ndugu Omtatah, > I hope you also forgive the daktari ya meno who attacked > you in RC > Bowen. This is very encouraging. As the resident > Askofu, I must thank you for following the teachings of our > Lord. > Although you had initially refused to give Cyprian the > other cheek > to smash, you have done us proud on this one. Only > gentlemen > acknowledges their mistakes and apologize. > > But your apology should not be misconstrued to mean that > you are a > general kiguoya. You remain a warlord and so this apology > should not > used by your enemies to come stepping on your toes. > > Neither the debate nor the wars are over. Wanaume na > wanawake waonane > (sio kimwiri:). > > Kuria > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Okiya Omtatah Okoiti > > wrote: > > When an elder speaks I take heed. > > > > Not another word from me but to campaign for this > thing to go through. > > > > I realise I used very strong words, and I take them > back unconditionally - I > > will also go for my weekly confession and among others > repent for failing in > > my duty to charity, and as my brother Cyprian's > keeper. The was a better way > > out. But may be such failures serve to remind us of > the need for Divine > > Mercy! > > > > What is left for me is to drum up support (literally, > kupiga debe) for the > > proposed constitution. I will do my part to get the > Church and everybody on > > board, guided by the principle that if anything is > worth doing it is worth > > doing badly. > > > > Mungu mwenye rehema atuhurumie! > > > > Omtatah > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "oloo_martin at yahoo.com" > > > To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com > > Cc: Neto Agostinho > > Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 6:22:50 AM > > Subject: Re: The KEJUDE take on Kadhi courts, Abortion > debate > > > > All, > > > > I believe Patrick's piece should cause us to halt this > debate. The struggle > > is bigger than all of us. We is called for is a > sustained brotherhood and > > camaraderie whatever differences in opinion we may > individually hold! > > > > This is not the place nor is it the time for us to > self destruct rather, it > > is time for us to rise to the point of humility and > tolerance. We need to > > hear and accommodate each other however wild off the > mark some of us might > > be. > > > > That said, if you ever sought to know or understand > Kenya, this forum is it! > > I mean you would be forgiven to imagine Kariuki > Chotara and Mulu Mutisya > > were alive as you would have the opportunity to remind > yourself of great > > Kenya comrades in arms who have gone before us in this > very forum. > > > > What is clear in my mind is that this draft > constitution is a problem. Were > > it not a problem, we should be heading towards > tolerance and national > > cohesion as we consider its adoption? My fear is that > we risk tearing into > > each other as we disagree violently or otherwise over > aspects of the draft > > that we find unacceptable and intrusive. > > > > Omtata and Cyprian, we have more in common than > differences! Hold your > > horses! Aluta continua! > > > > M. > > Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone from Zain Kenya > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > > Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 08:40:45 > > To: ; > > > Cc: Neto Agostinho > > Subject: Re: The KEJUDE take on Kadhi courts, Abortion > debate > > > > Neto/Omtata > > > > Can we retreat a few steps on this debate and do a > little more introspection > > and internal reflection so that we tread the paths of > faith, dogma, > > principle and politics in a manner that will serve our > long term aims and > > goals? > > > > Patrick Ochieng > > > > > > > >>? -------Original Message------- > >>? From: Okiya Omtatah Okoiti > >>? To: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com > >>? Cc: Neto Agostinho > >>? Subject: Re: The KEJUDE take on Kadhi courts, > Abortion debate > >>? Sent: Apr 06 '10 20:03 > >> > >>? Ndugu Cyprian, > >> > >>? Hope u had a lovely Easter. > >> > >>? I am surprised at your extremely and offensively > patronising response > >> that > >>? has degenerated this whole debate to be about > you; it is NOT! It is > >> Kenya, > >>? not you, not John Cardinal Njue, not Neto, not > Omtatah, etc who are > >> central > >>? to this debate. So I don't see the need for > posting our embellished CVs > >> on > >>? this forum. And it matters not whether you are > more Catholic than the > >> pope. > >>? Fact is, YOU ARE NOT THE POPE! Nevertheless, who > we are is not as > >> important > >>? as what we say, so there is no need to doubt > yourself so loudly by > >> falling > >>? over yourself to state how important you are. > Please cut the crap out of > >>? your attempt at eloquent poetry and just state > your points in broken > >> prose. > >>? But before you do that, please re-read our > statement and make common > >> sense > >>? not? wild statements about our message. > >> > >>? Church leaders have issues the draft > constitution. What evidence do you > >>? have that the Church leaders are driven by > ill-motive? > >> > >>? By the way, Kenya cannot be secular when it > refers to God and involves > >> God > >>? in its public affairs, including holding > national days of prayer and > >>? invoking God's name in the Constitution. > >> > >>? May be it would also help if you recognise that > Bomas is not everybody's > >>? sacred text on the constitution - to me it read > like an NGO proposal in > >>? many parts... People learn and change -? and a > lot has happened since > >>? Bomas. > >> > >>? Let's look at ways to make all come onboard. The > referendum is about > >>? numbers and nothing else. > >> > >> > >>? Finally, a little humility will go a long way. > My brother, let others > >> sing > >>? your praises. Don't praise yourself - lest you > do so in the presence of > >>? those who are greater than? yourself, (and I am > sure there are many on > >> this > >>? listserve)..... even scripture advises us as > much. > >> > >>? Otherwise have a lovely evening. > >> > >>? God bless. > >> > >>? Omtatah > >> > >> > >>? -------------------- > >>? FROM: orina Nyamwamu > >>? TO: mlalahoi at googlegroups.com > >>? SENT: Tue, April 6, 2010 12:50:26 PM > >>? SUBJECT: The KEJUDE take on Kadhi courts, > Abortion debate > >> > >> > >>? Kadhi courts and abortion > >> > >>? April 6, 2010 > >> > >> > >>? I am a policy and governance strategist by > training. And I have been in > >> the > >>? school of legal and political theory for > sometime. Working at NCEC for > >>? several years has offered me a massive > opportunity to engage with the > >>? constitution making process as initiators, > gardener and now midwife. I > >> have > >>? read the statement issued by KEJUDE?s > officials led by Neto and Omtatah > >>? (here under) with keenness. > >> > >> > >>? In constitution making there is a significant > distinction between > >>? constitutional principle and political choice. > In the case of the KEJUDE > >>? press statement, I see matters of political > choice being presented as > >>? matters of constitutional principle. The > arguments they make here about > >> the > >>? Kadhi courts and the issues of Article 26 (4) on > arbortion are not > >>? arguments that go to the base of constitution > principle but float to the > >>? top of political choice. > >> > >> > >>? First of all KEJUDE asserts that Christians are > being asked to chose > >>? between the constitution and the church. This is > unfortunate and untrue. > >>? There is only one focus of this debate which is: > Has the Proposed > >>? constitution offered the necessary > constitutional principles as regards > >> the > >>? right to life and access to justice that meets > the democratic approval of > >>? the many? That is the question. Neto and Omtatah > know that I am Catholic > >>? and this Easter Sunday I was at My Holy Family > Basilica church when John > >>? Cardinal Njue stepped into this very subject on > the constitution as > >> regards > >>? abortion and the Kadhi courts. John Cardinal > Njue is not the church and > >>? therefore his views and those of bishops may not > be equated to a choice > >> for > >>? Christians. The choice at the referendum is on > the PC.? No one is > >>? dismissing church leaders; we are debating with > them because they do not > >>? have the monopoly on philosophy and of > knowledge. It is they who are > >>? dismissing constitutional experts with the palm > of their hand. The church > >>? leaders are engaged in propaganda for political > ends and that is > >> dangerous. > >>? Let me state here that I do not like the > approach taken by Hon. Raila > >>? Odinga; that although there are some mistakes > that can be rectified in > >>? future, we should still vote YES for the > Proposed constitution. My > >> position > >>? is that the Proposed Constitution (PC) should > receive a YES vote because > >> it > >>? has provided for all the constitutional > principles that Kenyans demanded > >>? for in a democratic constitution. Issues of > political choice must not be > >>? confused with matters of constitutional > principles. > >> > >> > >>? First of all we have stated for a long seven > years now since Bomas that > >> the > >>? political choice to retain the institution of > the Kadhi courts in the > >>? constitution is important since we Christians > already have a legal system > >>? that recognizes our institution of marriage, > divorce, inheritance and > >> such > >>? other matters of personal law. When Omtatah > chooses to divorce (and God > >>? forbid) he does not go to his priest to get the > divorce proceedings there > >>? (although it is the priest who solemnized the > wedding), instead he goes > >> to > >>? court where then lawyers applying the law press > their case. Muslims will > >>? find themselves deprived of a judicial > institution to canvass these > >> matters > >>? if the Kadhis courts were removed based on what > Christians are arrogantly > >>? calling ?being paid for by the tax payers > money?. > >> > >> > >>? The KEJUDE entry point of the state is > religiously neutral is equally > >>? false. Our is secular state originates its laws > info rmed by the > >> traditions > >>? of many civilizations including > Judeo-Christianity, islam, neoliberalism, > >>? Ubuntu (that is how community land has been > recognized). Sourcing laws > >> from > >>? various religious and non religious traditions > does not make a state > >>? religiously neutral. It only gains legitimacy > from many sources knowledge > >>? and value systems. > >> > >> > >>? For instance, We Christians have 112 days > granted to us by the state for > >>? our worship. On top we Catholics are granted > Good Friday, Easter Monday, > >>? Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Year Day to > continue to celebrate the > >>? Birth of Christ, the Death of Christ, and the > resurrection of Christ. > >> With > >>? seven million workers and each with 8 hours of > work taken off multiply by > >>? 116 at an average of Kshs. 50 an hour =6.496 b > hours =Kshs. 324.8 b > >>? annually that is not produced because the labour > force takes up 1/3 of > >> the > >>? working days off. All of these days are laid to > rest courtesy of the > >>? character of our state; a largely Judeo > Christian state in character. > >> Note > >>? that Muslims are never granted Friday as an > holiday. They break off for > >>? lunch-hour prayers and come back to work. > >> > >> > >>? ACTION: the provision for the Kadhi courts is > consistent with the > >>? constitutional principle on access to justice > and it is a judicial matter > >>? that originates from Islamic legal system and > does not offend in any way > >>? the constitution as a whole: Because no one as > shown the nation how > >>? granting Muslims the recognition of Kadhi?s > courts for their private > >>? civil personal matters becomes an issue that > must be put on the list of > >>? things that must go after the referendum. What > is the really argument in > >>? terms of constitutional principle as regards > equality?? There is none. I > >>? will be telling my priests and bishops that they > are plunging into > >> divisive > >>? issues because they are politically correct with > the majority of the > >> voters > >>? in Kenya rather than any plausible grounds in > principle. > >> > >> > >>? On the matter of the provisions on abortion, > Omtatah and Neto brothers; I > >>? was at Bomas. This matter was never a > constitutional issue until John > >>? Cardinal Njue (then Bishop) and Bishop Sulumeti > brought this matter to > >> the > >>? floor of the Conference. My official status of > observer gave me a great > >>? opportunity to record what was happening in all > the tents and therefore I > >>? am well grounded on this. Again constitutions > generally provided for the > >>? right to life in principle what happens to those > who take away the lives > >> of > >>? others. When the issue of defining when life > begins and ends was > >> introduced > >>? we knew we were headed for a long night on the > operation table. It is > >> this > >>? inclusion that became problematic and therefore > compelled drafters to > >>? search for how to deal with real life situation > where abortions have to > >> be > >>? procured. Hence the inclusion of the provisions > that abortion may be > >>? procured where the life of the mother is > endangered, if the conception is > >>? through rape etc. > >> > >> > >>? I write this with sadness because what the CoE > has provided is the proper > >>? way to provide for difficult subjects that have > found themselves > >>? politically pushed to the constitution. A > constitution can not just > >> provide > >>? that ?abortion is illegal?. Full stop. No! > >> > >> > >>? The constitutional principle is the one on the > right to life. Let no one > >> go > >>? beyond this line because then you introduce non > principles but matters of > >>? political choice which are of policy in nature > and vary from time to time > >>? and will need legislation. The discussion on the > right to life is broad. > >> It > >>? introduces issues of death penalty, Euthanasia, > abortion, death through > >>? neglect by the state etc and it actually goes to > the very discussion of > >> the > >>? reason for establishing the state. so it is > always safe to provide for > >> the > >>? principle and the institutions which may > progressively and daily process > >>? these matters that touch on the right to life- > Including parliament, the > >>? judiciary, commissions, the administration etc. > >> > >>? ACTION: either maintains the provisions as are > in the Proposed > >> Constitution > >>? or delete all the provisions that touch on > abortion and when life begins > >>? and ends. Once you introduce details of when > life begins and ends, and > >> try > >>? to legislate on abortion in the constitution > then one has to live with > >> the > >>? provisions of detail that are now in the > Proposed constitution. So then > >> we > >>? are back to the conclusion, the Proposed > constitution covers every one > >> and > >>? there are no mistakes in the provisions. The > provisions are rational. > >> > >> > >>? I am now coming to the realization that before > MY Bishops meet this month > >>? to discuss the way forward on the referendum on > the constitution, I need > >> to > >>? write to the Secretary of the KEC to request him > to advise the Bishops > >>? accordingly so that they do not in fact engage > in ill- info rmed debates. > >> > >> > >>? Cyprian Nyamwamu > >> > >>? Here now is > >> > >> > >>? The KEJUDE STATEMENT > >> > >> > >>? PRESS STATEMENT > >> > >> > >>? CHURCH LEADERS SHOULD EMULATE GOD WHO__DOES NOT > DESTROY THE RIGHTEOUS_ > >>_ALONG WITH THE WICKED > >> > >> > >>? We acknowledge that today?s Kenya, and the one > anticipated in the > >>? Proposed Constitution of Kenya, is not a secular > State but a religiously > >>? neutral one. The Kenyan? State is supposed to > treat all religions as > >>? equals; never to favour or be hostile to any > religious beliefs. > >> > >> > >>? Therefore, we call upon all those condemning > church leaders for raising > >>? fundamental questions about the Proposed > Constitution of Kenya to > >>? immediately stop crossing the legitimate lines > of criticism. Rambling > >> onto > >>? the slippery surface of irrational exuberance is > largely > >> indistinguishable > >>? from open hostility to the Church. Their > prejudiced, speculative, > >>? one-dimensional and narrow analysis of the > Church?s position is > >>? purposefully based on wilful distortions of the > issues at hand. > >> > >> > >>? Church leaders represent an important > constituency and the issues they > >> are > >>? raising are fundamental. To ask Christians to > make a choice between the > >>? Church and the draft constitution is to ask them > to make a false choice. > >>? There is no choice between the draft > constitution and the church since > >> the > >>? constitution of the Republic belongs equally to > all Kenyans, irrespective > >>? of their race, creed, ethnicity, class, station > or status. > >> > >> > >>? From the days of the apostles, church leaders > have the unique authority > >>? passing on the faith and applying the teaching > of Christ to the > >>? circumstances of the day. They have a > responsibility to foster among the > >>? faithful those actions that promote holiness and > are in accord with the > >>? Gospel, as well as a duty to condemn those > actions which are incompatible > >>? with their teaching. > >> > >> > >>? And because it belongs to the Church always and > everywhere to announce > >>? moral principles, even about the social order, > and to render judgment > >>? concerning any human affairs insofar as the > fundamental rights of the > >>? person or the salvation of souls requires it, > church leaders have both a > >>? right and a duty to guide their flock. > >> > >> > >>? We also condemn all those politicians and > commentators who have tried to > >>? rubbish the position of the Church, as > untenable, arguing that if they > >>? reject the proposed constitution we will still > go back to the current one > >>? which has Kadhis courts in them. > >> > >> > >>? The Kadhi?s Courts are in the current > constitution as a historical > >>? mistake, waiting to be corrected. They are not a > good. But if they go > >> into > >>? the new constitution their status changes > fundamentally because they will > >>? be there by the universal supreme mandate of the > sovereign Kenyan people. > >>? Hence, their substance will change from > illegitimate to legitimate even > >>? though their form as courts subordinate to the > High Court will remain. > >> That > >>? is why the Church would rather they remain as a > mistake than that they be > >>? elevated to the sovereign wish of the? Kenya? > people. > >> > >> > >>? We should recognize that the Committee of > Experts introduced, or failed > >> to > >>? ferret out, many policy issues that belong to > the legislative not to the > >>? constitutive process. The Constitution is > supposed to be about broad > >>? principles. It was wrong to use the Constitution > to legislate on > >> abortion, > >>? on the Kadhis courts, on military rights, and on > similar policy issues. > >> All > >>? policy issues belong to Parliamentary > legislation. Putting them in the > >>? Constitution has put us in a situation where a > largely very good document > >>? is threatened with justified rejection. > >> > >> > >>? But is rejection the way to resolve this dilemma > where a document that is > >>? overwhelmingly good is contaminated by evil? We > call upon church leaders > >> to > >>? reconsider their decision to reject the document > because of the few > >>? mistakes it contains. Scripture has a very clear > way forward. God is > >> always > >>? patient and caring in the face of evil. Perfect > is never the enemy of > >> good. > >>? God does not destroy the good along with evil. > He engages strategically. > >>? God never destroys the good even as he fights > evil. God is a smart > >> fighter; > >>? he never causes collateral damage. Otherwise, He > would have destroyed the > >>? world because of the sin of humankind that > stinks to high heaven. But > >>? because of the little good that there is, His > Divine Mercy spares us all, > >>? giving us a chance to repent and make good our > iniquities. > >> > >> > >>? In GENESIS 18:16-33 Abraham pleads with God not > to destroy the city of > >>? Sodom for the sake of the few good people there. > Abraham asks God: ?Wilt > >>? thou also destroy the righteous with the > wicked?? And God agrees to spare > >>? the whole city for the sake initially of 50 > righteous then 45, 40, 30, > >> 20, > >>? and, finally the Lord said: ?I WILL NOT > DESTROY IT FOR THE SAKE OF > >>? TEN.? Eventually God saves righteous Lot and > his family before He > >>? destroys Sodom? . > >> > >> > >>? The main theme of the Gospel according to St. > Matthew is division and > >>? judgment. Evil people are separated and > destroyed as the holy are saved. > >> In > >>? the parable of Wheat and weeds (MATTHEW > 13:24?30) Jesus teaches through a > >>? parable, about a man who sowed good seed in his > field, but while people > >>? slept, his enemy came and sowed weeds also among > the wheat, and went > >> away. > >>? But when the blade sprang up and brought forth > fruit, then the weed > >>? appeared also. The servants wanted to go and > pull them up but the master > >>? refused, saying: 'because while you are pulling > the weeds, you may root > >> up > >>? the wheat with them. Let both grow together > until the harvest. At that > >> time > >>? I will tell the harvesters: First collect the > weeds and tie them in > >> bundles > >>? to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it > into my barn.' " > >> > >> > >>? Instead of rejecting the Proposed Constitution > of Kenya, church leaders > >>? should reject verbal assurances and demand that > President Kibaki and > >> Prime > >>? Minister Raila Odinga lead MPs into signing a > post-referendum memorandum > >> of > >>? understanding that immediately the new > constitution is ratified they will > >>? embark on amendments to remove all offending > clauses. For this will be a > >>? sure way of giving Kenyans a new constitution > but not the simple way of > >>? dismissing the church concerns as dismal and > parochial. > >> > >> > >>? Signed: > >> > >> > >>? NETO AGOSTINHO - 0722-467-365 > >>? Date: Monday, April 5, 2010 > >> > >>? National Convener, > >> > >>? Kenyans for Justice and Development > >> > >>? --- On TUE, 4/6/10, ROBERT ALAI__ > wrote: > >> > >>? From: Robert Alai > >>? Subject: Re: KADHI COURTS AND ISLAM ARE 2 > DIFFERENT THINGS > >>? To: "MlalaHoi" > >>? Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 9:27 AM > >> > >> > >>? Maina > >> > >>? If you dont care what our views are then craft > your own society. You > >>? will be doing no work fighting against Kadhi > Courts because they will > >>? still be in the constitution whether you vote > Yes or No > >> > >>? Alai > >> > >>? On Apr 6, 9:14 am, Maina Muthee > wrote: > >>? > Let me tell you people, I don't care what > your views are or explanation > >>? > about Kadhis courts. I have been mobilizing > Christians? to vote for NO > >> NO > >>? NO. > >>? > > >>? > Christians you need to think twice while > voting. Muslims know what they > >>? want > >>? > from inclusion in the constitution. Why are > are leaders blind. Cant > >> they > >>? > see? > >>? > > >>? > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Rose > Kagwiria > >>? wrote: > >>? > > >>? > > >>? > > >>? > > >>? > > >>? > > Robert > >>? > > >>? > > I agree with you Robert. These guys > have no thanks. they concentrate > >>? more > >>? > > on negatives than positives. This does > not refer to Muslim only but > >>? also > >>? > > those who call themselves clerics. > Instead of thanking the > >> supporters, > >>? they > >>? > > continue arguing with no bases. Is > this what Mohamed and Jesus wanted > >>? his > >>? > > people to behave. Theses guys are very > selfish > >>? > > >>? > > ------------------------------ > >>? > > *From:* Robert? Alai > >>? > > *To:* MlalaHoi > >>? > > *Sent:* Mon, April 5, 2010 4:34:22 PM > >>? > > *Subject:* Re: KADHI COURTS AND ISLAM > ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS > >>? > > >>? > > Mohammed > >>? > > >>? > > I am with you in Kadhi Courts being in > the constitution but you know > >>? > > why many Christian gets to hate the > Kadhi Courts? It is when people > >>? > > like you think that every criticism is > "hate". When you want do > >>? > > declare a Fatwa or Jihad on anyone > just because he holds different > >>? > > opinion, then even people who support > you like me says "No this is > >>? > > sick". > >>? > > >>? > > Cant you learn to convince without > Jihads and Fatwas? > >>? > > >>? > >? Alai > >>? > > >>? > > On Apr 5, 2:24 pm, MOHAMEDWELI ABDI > > wrote: > >>? > > > First to correct you the Khadi > court os direct laws from the Quran > >>? not > >>? > > from > >>? > > > the Sultan. If you are not Muslim > then why will you worry you will > >> be > >>? in > >>? > > > slaved by the Khadi court. He > will not be able to summon you. > >>? > > > Thirdly where have you seen Khadi > courts abuse of children and > >> women? > >>? > > Infact > >>? > > > it is the other way round.It > protects their rights. Your Western > >>? ideology > >>? > > > about Islam is what is confusing > you. > >>? > > > Please refrain this kind of hate. > Kenyans will never be divided by > >>? > > religion. > >>? > > >>? > > > United we stand, Divided we fall. > Kenya never listen to bigots like > >>? this > >>? > > man > >>? > > >? and Harry. > >>? > > >>? > > > Mohamed > >>? > > >>? > > > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 3:50 PM, > Paul Nyandoto > >>? >>? > > >wrote: > >>? > > >>? > > > > Dear Kenyans, > >>? > > >>? > > > > I have got or received some > very low life explanation about Kadhi > >>? > > courts. > >>? > > > > It is even unfortunate that > some of those explanation do come > >> even > >>? from > >>? > > real > >>? > > > > Islamic believers who end up > calling us ignorant of the kadhi > >>? courts. > >>? > > >>? > > > > Kadhi courts exist in Kenya > because sultan of zanzibar introduced > >>? them > >>? > > to > >>? > > > > the 10 km strip land along > the coastal area of kenya as away of > >>? > > > > administration, just like > the British also did divide and rule > >>? > > tactics.. > >>? > > >? > Those land were under > Sultan of zanzibar who was by then ruling > >>? and his > >>? > > > > governmental system wanted > to hold those lands for ever. The > >> sultan > >>? > > never > >>? > > > > paid or never bought those > lands from the poor africans who were > >>? living > >>? > > in > >>? > > > > those areas, he just took > them and the ones who resisted were > >> sold > >>? to > >>? > > > > america as slaves.? Kadhi > courts and Islam as a religion are two > >>? > > completely > >>? > > > > different things. Kadhi > courts do serve man and the sultan,? NOT > >>? GOD. > >>? > > ISLAM > >>? > > > > as a religion serves God > just as any other religion we see in > >> kenya > >>? > > except > >>? > > > > atheism. > >>? > > >>? > > > > I just do not see why I > should be called anti islam or against > >>? muslims > >>? > > if I > >>? > > > > do not want Kadhi courts in > our constitution. To me? kadhi courts > >>? are a > >>? > > > > direct extension of kenyan > occupation by the sultan of zanzibar. > >>? Those > >>? > > > > courts hide a lot of child > abuses in families, hide a lot of > >>? slavery on > >>? > > > > women, men end up exploiting > women under those courts. > >> Inheritance > >>? of > >>? > > wealth > >>? > > > > by females become almost > imposible on those courts, go to Nigeria > >>? or > >>? > > sudan > >>? > > > > and see what I am talking > about. The kadhi courts allow direct > >>? > > polygamist > >>? > > > > and women slavery which any > normal brain thinking creature should > >>? not > >>? > > > > accept. Kenya as a state do > have already courts so why? the > >>? duplicate. > >>? > > What > >>? > > > > do those courts give which > kenyan government courts are not > >> giving. > >>? We > >>? > > want > >>? > > > > all Kenyans to be equal > under tha country`s law. > >>? > > >>? > > > >? So please fellow muslim > brothers? and some who support you > >> blindly > >>? when > >>? > > > > informing us about Kadhi > courts do not fool us around as you have > >>? been > >>? > > > > doing. Those courts serve > man and the Sultan ( King), while islam > >>? > > serves GOD > >>? > > > > the almighty. Doing away > with those kadhi courts in the > >>? constitution > >>? > >? will > >>? > > > > not change your faith even > by an inch.? I am wrong?. > >>? > > >>? > > > > Paul Nyandoto > >>? > > >>? > > > > -- > >>? > > > > MANY VACANCIES:[LINK: http://bit.ly/bROydQ] http://bit.ly/bROydQ > >>? > > >>? > > > > TECHMTAA BLOG:[LINK: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR] http://bit.ly/cmRFZR > >>? > > >>? > > > > To unsubscribe from this > group, Email > >>? > > > > mlalahoi+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com >>? > > 2Bunsubscribe at googlegroups.com> > >>? > > >>? > > > >? 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You are a blessing to me and I wouldn't trade the way I feel about you for anything in this world. You are the reason why I smile. You are the first thing on my mind when I wake up every morning and you are last thing I think about every night before I close my eyes, but our time together doesn't end there because you are the only thing I dream about. I really do want to spend the rest of my life with you if you will allow me to. Nothing is too much for you. I feel like if you're not happy then the world needs to shut down until you are. Grace, I just want to thank you for loving me like you do and I am forever in your debt just for you being good to me. You know, it's strange how I had to go through so many bad situations before you came into my life. I guess it really is true when they say good things come to those who wait because I've waited for someone like you all my life and you really are the best thing that has happened to me On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Papa Likondi wrote: > Ehh you have ashamed Spearshake. Good > > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Yona Maro wrote: > >> *I want a love I can see, that?s the only kind of love that means a thing >> to me. * >> >> *Don?t want a love you have to tell me about. * >> >> *That?s the kind of love that I can sure do without, sure do without. * >> >> *I want a love I can feel, that?s the kind of love I know is real. * >> >> *Don?t want you telling me ?bout something that you heard,* >> >> *I know that action speaks louder than words, louder than words... * >> >> -- >> TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by >> Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By >> Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen >> Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head >> by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of >> Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The >> Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano >> >> AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In >> 3 Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & >> Easy Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight >> Swahili >> >> EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, >> Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa >> >> Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 >> >> FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 >> 208 >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to youngprofessionals_ke+ >> unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE >> ME" as the subject. >> > > -- > TRAINING DVDS @ Ksh. 1, 000: How To Have Your Best Year Ever - 5 Hour by > Jim Rohn, Creating A Life That Matters by Stewart Emery, The Secret By > Rhonda Byrne, 8th Habit & 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People By Stephen > Covey, Step Into Your Greatness By Les Brown, Winning: It's All In Your Head > by Denis Waitley, Going Beyond Positive Thinking By Gary Coxe, The Art Of > Nonverbal Selling by Gerhard Gschwandtner, Leadership Strategies, The > Millionaire Mind, Fast Tract Guitar, Fast Tract Piano > > AUDIO COURSES @ KSH. 1, 000: Collins Easy Learning French, Hugo French In 3 > Months, Collins Easy Learning Spanish, Hugo Spanish In 3 Months, Fast & Easy > Spanish, Learn & Speak German, Collins Easy Learning Italian, In-Flight > Swahili > > EXERCISE DVDS @ KSH. 1, 000: Train At Home Aerobics, Fat Burning Exercise, > Martial Arts, Learn To Dance Salsa > > Golf Instruction DVD by David Leadbetter @ 1500 > > FOR ALL THE ABOVE, email francis at safarisoftsolutions.com or Call 0721 663 > 208 > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to youngprofessionals_ke+ > unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE > ME" as the subject. > -- 2 Days to go!!! 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James Taylor) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:17:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Jambo] Decision to Honor Confederacy Is a Horrible One! Message-ID: <11543833.14211501270754265628.JavaMail.xncore@z1011ab.ningops.com> R. James Taylor has sent you a message on Black History Club To reply to this message, click here: http://blackhistoryclub.ning.com/profiles/message/listInbox?xg_source=msg_mes_private Subject: Decision to Honor Confederacy Is a Horrible One! "Log on and view our latest blog in response to Virginia Governor McDonnell decision to honor the Confederacy by declaring April "Confederate History Month." Robert" To reply to this message, click here: http://blackhistoryclub.ning.com/profiles/message/listInbox?xg_source=msg_mes_private -- To control which emails you receive on Black History Club, go to: http://blackhistoryclub.ning.com/?xgo=dGmsXNxjK9sNLBsHa1HvU5ntRGGvaq8QZ1EvmNHZ7AjFdr-hh-ekgA&xg_source=msg_mes_private From mbogokenya at gmail.com Thu Apr 8 09:37:38 2010 From: mbogokenya at gmail.com (Sam Mbogo) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:37:38 +0300 Subject: [Jambo] [YP_Ke] WHO PAYS THE CHIEF KADHI'S? In-Reply-To: <399312.71229.qm@web65711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <159069.30779.qm@web31805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <571281.2472.qm@web51005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <422474.28056.qm@web56701.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <399312.71229.qm@web65711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes Omar You raise fundamental issues. If you read the Lancaster Constitutional Conference hansard reports, there were three parties: The Colony (the hinterland of now Kenya), The Protectorate (The Coastal Strip) and the Northern Frontier Districts (Northern Kenya today...Garisa, Wjir,Mandera, Moyale, Isiolo and Marsabit). These were separate states that were brought together after the Lancaster to make what is Kenya today. The Lancaster Conference was a constitutive conference to bring together the three entities or states. This then culminated in exchange of letters later on. I wonder the implications of abrogating the original constitutive acts of bringing the three states together. Any constitutional gurus around? Sam On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:52 PM, OMAR FARAH MDIGO wrote: > Hi Fellow Kenyans, > > I wish to base my reference to the scramble and partition of Africa. Was > there Kenya before then, what about Uganda and the rest. In order to resolve > the status quo challenges we must be in a position to consider that history > contributes largely to it. > > Enshrining of the said laws in question was as a result of a merger > which so the then Kenya protectorate (15 mile) and the Kenya colony unite. > As for any unified entity compromises are made to reach a middle ground. > > This was the case at the time. Failure to which Kenya (colony) would be > existing as a landlocked country (without a port) and the coastal strip > (Kenya protectorate) an independent sovereignty state. > > Hope this serves as food for thought to all and sundry. > > *Please discuss.* > > Kenya without the Coast strip - The Coastal strip without Kenya or both > together unified within clear considerations. > > *Omar Farah.* > Kenyan in the Diaspora. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Sally Malinda > > *To:* youngprofessionals_ke at googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Thu, April 8, 2010 1:33:40 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [YP_Ke] WHO PAYS THE CHIEF KADHI'S? > > Yes....Hesbon........I support you